Watch What Crappens - #2826 Checking In with Dorinda Medley and Kiki Monique!

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

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welcome to Watcher Crappens. Yes, we're very excited to be here. Yeah. So you guys, tell us what's going on. So you're doing a show together now on Sirius? We combined forces. So Kiki's been doing reality checked, I've been doing reality checked,

and yeah, they decided to take the two great ones and put them together. I mean, if we're good separate, you can only imagine what we're like together. And Kiki's so good because Kiki is the real mind behind us. She goes deep. She studies the trials. She's very detailed.

I'm great with all the commentary, something new and different. Yeah, Kiki will show up on your doorstep. Yeah, no, I'm a stalker, no, for sure. But she told me yesterday that after Shannon's outdoors crash, she actually jumped in her car and got to the scene to get a piece of the cement or whatever it is before it left.

This is Shannon's, this is Karen's, yeah. No, you don't, you have Karen's too. Yeah, I don't have a display yet, but they're here, I gotta find good displays. I guess. You have Karen's too. Yeah, I don't have a display yet, but they're in there. They're here. I gotta find good display. I guess. You're a sick woman. You have to send Kiki a little piece of Bluestone Manor to go along, like, just in the cement collection.

Yep, she's gotta come and sleep in the fish room. Yes, for sure. Give her a piece that Ramona broke off when she had all the lighting ripped down in there. Yeah, exactly. Ooh, yes. I have my Bluestone Manor bourbon, which I love. So the bottle is beautiful. So Dorinda gave us these when Dorinda you came to

our 2021 watch the crappies awards. That was our first one back after lockdown. And it was also our 10 year anniversary. That was an immensely special show. And we were just saying right beforehand that like, we, I don't know if we've ever heard the audience scream and just like lose their minds more than when you surprised everyone on that stage. Oh my God, that was so much fun.

The energy was so good that night. And I couldn't believe how packed it was. And you know, we, it was so nice because we all just had come out of the pandemic. So we were all kind of back in it again, but not, you know, used to being out of the pandemic. So we were all back in it again, but not used to being very isolated. We were all like, what? Can I do that? Can I touch that?

Can I see that? So when I came on stage, and I hadn't been in a room with that many people in, well, almost years, right? Yeah, that was crazy. This year at the Crappies, I played you, I did a number as you in a turban, I did you from Sunset Boulevard, you were singing the song from Sunset Boulevard.

Well, that's it. I'm surprised you didn't get a call from Luanne saying how dare you. I'm stepping out our cabaret. I'm the one that discovered Sunset Boulevard, for God's sakes, darling. I was in the original cast. I was in the original.

They actually asked me to be in it last week, but I couldn't do it. I was like, Gabare! Gabare. It used to be called Sag Harbor Boulevard. I was just out with Luanne like 10 minutes ago. Oh, really? How's she doing? I was out with Luanne, Sonia, Ramona.

There was a bunch of us just catching up. We have a group and we kind of once every couple of months, someone just decides we're all gonna get on a Zoom and talk about, you know, there's always some way. I swear to God, Sonja was still, it opened up we're talking about Mr. Morgan. So it never changes. I swear.

I'm so fascinated. I think you can't make this shit up. I'm so fascinated by people's group chats. Like when I hear like this is a group chat, I'm like this is the one I want to be peeking into. Like who cares about the Valley Boys chat? That sounds gross. Well, can I tell you something Kiki I thought of you because there was

a woman on that was sort of acting as a commentator that has this idea for all of us. She literally at one point I said to her, Tracy, are you gonna speak? She goes, I just, I don't know how to enter this. I don't even know what, I'm so over, I thought I was gonna be in control of this meeting, but I don't know how to, I'm just having fun watching it. With all four of you, there's no way.

Yeah, there's no controlling that. No. I do love that you guys actually are like, like a real like circle, right? Because some shows you sort of feel like once filming ends, they just go their separate ways and then they come back and they all pretend like they're friends. Well, you guys know, we've been friends for so long.

I mean, the show kind of, it was something, I think in a lot of ways was made because of our crazy eccentric lives in New York City and the fact that we had such foundations with each other and each other's kids and marriages and divorces and baptisms and dog deaths and graduations. I mean, we've all... There's always been at least funerals. There's always been at least one of us in the audience of life

throughout the last decades, you know? And that's like what worries me too about like future like reality stars. Like I'm excited about Jen's, you know, Jen NYC, that whole thing. But like, I think that like people don't have relationships in the same way because they meet online or they just, you know, they're just so used to being behind keyboards where you have a group of women where it's like, yeah, you were going to lunches and galas and all these things.

I'll be honest with you, a lot of that has to be because New York was, because the only form of communication we had during then was work, happy hours, and your answering machine. So you had to get out there and meet people because there was no city in your apartment, otherwise you had no ability to communicate. I also truly believe that our generation, what is our generation again? I don't even know. I think you're ex, right?

Yeah, I think you might be ex. I'm not saying this like our mothers that are like, that was the best music, although I think our era of music is still the best music. But okay, I do think our generation, especially women, were very social, very tribal, very social. We were always together.

I mean, there was an incredible Instagram the other day that this comedian had on, and he goes, he shows a bunch of women going to different places and farms and shops. He goes, what is it with you and girls weekends? You say girls weekends, you always need something. Girls dinner, girls weekend, girls outing. You just say women's retreat

and the goddamn thing is sold out. What are you women doing? Ignoring your stupid, hairy, unshaved asses, that's what we're doing. But I think this generation, like my daughter's generation, there was a little bit of like solitude in this last whatever, 10 years, but pro-COVID, I think it's happening again. The gathering of the great

women. You know, you go out and do your stuff and we like to look at smelly soaps for an afternoon. So leave us alone. Do you remember, do you have any memories of when you met some of some of the women in your, in your circle there, like Luanne, of course. Yes. I met Luanne. I was at a very, this multi, multi, back then this was rich, millionaires. Now you might as well just file for bankruptcy immediately. I don't know, that's like blue-collaring now. I mean, according to Britain, unless you're making

seven figures, you can't even order DoorDash these days. I know, you're making a million dollars, you live on the set of Roseanne, you know. Yeah, exactly. Like really, because I think I'm in trouble. But back then, we went to Bob Mitzvah, Bob Mitzvah and I think they spent literally like $250,000 on it, which by the way back then was like, what? Luanne was dancing.

I'd known Luanne because I'd lived in London. She, when I would ever go in the summers, wherever, south of France, whatever we did back then in the glory days, the hey days of wealthy husbands and lifestyles, you know, I would see her and I knew of her and you would see her at parties. But it was really, and that's where it was like we met on the dance floor at a bar mitzvah. We just, I would, I just saw her and I think, Oh my God, I think I know that woman from London. And I hopped on the dance floor and the rest was history. Ramona, I knew because Ramona's been around.

You can't live on, in the same way you cannot go to a party in Palm Beach in New York City without seeing Ramona, you can't live on the Upper East Side. That's Ramona. And our kids went to school together. Yeah. Oh my gosh. And Sonya has always been a fixture.

I mean, Sonya was the great organizer of the Wealthy Men with Women early days. I mean, she truly had been doing that a long time and very good at it. We used to sit, let me tell you, there was a club on, I think right now it's called, it's something else now. Anyway, it was on 60th between Park and Madison, and they had a rope. And our biggest dream was to get through the rope. You had to be friends with Tiger or something.

And I remember Sonja would come in at night. We were all very young and broke, but we could always have enough money to get someone to buy us a drink at this late night place. We never paid for drinks. We would just target a man and be like, nice. And Sonya would walk in her room and I tell you something,

she really had something. Like she just, men loved her. And you turned your head when you saw Sonya walk in her room. Yeah. Still do, eh? Still got it's own. So what do you think about this new crop of shows coming out? Obviously, we're still pissed at the traders. Do you think about going on love hotel?

Yeah, I think I'd be great at love hotel. You would be but they have to bring in some great hairy guys from Queens. I need a mafia guy. I don't think they're I don't think they're about that. That was one of the biggest surprises. I want a midwestern, white crocodile shoe bullshit. I want a nice solid guy from Queens that will take me to Reyes twice a year.

Good, that's all I need. I think they would get them. I was actually impressed with the guys because I thought they were just gonna get a bunch of like tweezed and waxed Instagram guys. And they actually got real guys. They had some good silver foxes. They did, I love in the show.

I just told, I really like this, and I like it because it's definitely a show that they can roll out, you know? I think Keely said that yesterday, but it's true. This, you know, although I'm still never understood, but I just didn't keep going with the ultimate girls trips. I know that they say it's because of the, but why? That's some sort of bizarre, you know,

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was because you were gonna be on it. And I was really so excited to see you at the round table, like really kind of like cross-examining people. Just stop it. I'm gonna cry again. I cried for one straight month after I got murdered. Oh. A whole month? Oh, my God. I'm gonna cry again. I cried for one straight month after I got murdered My god if they said I saw a psychologist over it I was so upset you did I felt with such I got in there with such glory and excitement And I really prepared myself in every single way Hannah had me basically get a PhD in traders.

I worked out, my clothes were just fucking off the record. I mean, and yeah, I went there with those six suitcases and I came home with those six suitcases. And I was like, Hannah, come home, because I don't wanna look at that shit ever again. Take it all. Wait, were you at the psychologist? Was it cause like you thought like people didn't like you

or like what was your... I went to my therapist. My therapist, I just had to talk to him because I just was... First of all, I don't... Kiki, I'm so Sagittarian, as you know, because you're one of us. We just don't fail at shit. I'm so competitive that it was... This was an...

Usually I can control my environment. This was an uncontrollable defeat. And such a huge, and I was so excited and I knew that I could create some great content storing the castle and my fabulous alaya black gown. You know what I mean? That I had this image in my mind and within 36 hours there I was back at JFK.

Oh, that sucks. But if they asked you to come back again, would you be like, no, I'm not going to put myself through that again? Or would you say, oh yes? No, I would say I would hope because I don't think I really got the experience. Yeah. I want them to bring you back because I think the outrage online was huge because honestly, because you have always been so, so amazing in group settings, whether you're being funny, whether you're going off on someone, it's just like you're

very compelling to watch. And so I think a lot of us were excited to add the idea of you just being at that roundtable and someone giving a line of bullshit, you just coming for them. And we felt robbed. And so I personally I personally think the producers should reach out to you again. Well, it was that one point there was a hashtag going around because they're called hashtag abandoned traders us and I should go on and do a promo saying no, it's going to be great, you know, because yeah, it was a great season anyway. It was somehow made the show

without me. I was, you know, there was a little part of. It was somehow the show without me. God, I was, you know, there was a little part of me that was like, I don't want it to be so good. And Chanel too, by the way, the back to back of you and Chanel was really hard for us Bravo fans because also Chanel, we saw the Chanel and that was, it was the first time I noticed the kind of divide between drag race fans and housewives fans. I didn't know that there was like a war, a brewing there.

That was so weird. And I was like, well, I'm not going up against Drag Race fans. I'll just sit quiet here on the end. No way. You know what's so funny? At the reunion, I had a talk with Andy and he's like, he's like, this is gonna be your easiest reunion ever. I said, oh no, Andy, I'm just gonna sit there

and come out and not say a word. It is not my place. I was not, of course I get out that Bob, exactly I was about to, I'm like, well, let me tell you what I actually said. Yeah, you're like, how dare you. How dare you, sir. You heard me.

And he's looking at me like, and he's like, the cameras come on and I don't know, it's like, you know, camera cocaine. I can't stop myself, you know? But that's why the housewives are always so good, I think, on the traders in terms of entertainment. Because the roundtable, I feel like the reunions prepare all of you for getting to that roundtable. I mean, you saw, you know, what Robin had no had no qualms just jumping in. And, you know, she wasn't there long, but she actually was really good. Yeah, really good. And like making accusations.

Dolores was more chill, but Dolores is generally more chill. Dolores is usually not going to start up with you unless you come for her. And it's actually funny, she came to the crappies this year. And my friend was like, by the way, I really liked you. I hope you're having like, I'm really enjoying you on the Traders. And she told our she told my friend, what a lovely show. I hope you're having like, I'm really enjoying you on The Traders." And she told our, she told my friend, uh, what a lovely show. I had such a fun time. And my friend later on was like, I think she won because there's just no way that Dolores is saying,

like, what a lovely show if she got, if she got kicked off. Yeah, because everyone else you talked to is like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was great. You know, people are like, oh my God, they take away your phone. They take... I looked at it as like, wow, they're going to take away your phone. They take, I looked at it as like, wow, they're gonna take away my phone. Thank God they're gonna take away my, you know, we get so little silence and peace in our lives that, you know, to be obligated to be in silence

and peace, I think, I mean, I do a lot of that at Bluestone Manor. So I, you know, I sometimes just leave my phone on charger in my room. So, cause I still come from that era where I did that. You know, I lived in London for what, 10 years, so we were way behind in phones. I didn't have a phone until like Hannah was four,

I think we got a phone, so that was, and we're still in London, so that was what, 1997. Because we were so far behind in London. And we were still doing this. Yeah. Are you doing a Bluestone Manor show? Did I read that somewhere or is that just a gossip? Yes, we are still, it's so funny.

I was just on my liability insurance. Yes, we're working hard towards that. I've got like three or four things in the making. So I just keep pitching away. I just think there's a, there's some show left in Bluestone Man. I think there's one more. One more?

Yeah. I think what you do just the great American, the great Bluestone Man or Tag Sale, empty that shit out. Everybody come and take whatever they want. I've been living on it. I said to myself, I was walking the property the other day because it's just coming back alive. And it's really interesting because I've been living on it. I was walking the property the other day because it's just coming back alive.

It's really interesting because I've been doing it for 20 years. It's almost like I've got the same characters or the sons of the same characters. I was thinking, how much longer am I going to be doing this? You know what? At some point, it's the enthusiasm waves because Hannah's no longer comes as much as that and my parents are older. But listen, I have to say, when I was there last weekend, it is truly one of the most

beautiful properties. And you have fun neighbors. You said Elizabeth Perkins is your neighbor. Like, you know, like, Elizabeth Perkins, there's, you know, Ken Falks up there, who's like the greatest, biggest designer design part of the White House at one point. There's, you know what the Berkshires, the reason why the Berkshires worked for me at this point, because I think because I lived abroad for 10 years, it's much more of a British-y kind of lifestyle,

like dinner parties. There's no glamorous parties and all that. It's more like a country home. Yeah. But I like that. Well, actually, and to that end, any plans for Cookbook, Dorinda? Because we saw you cook a lot on the show.

I used to watch your YouTube cooking videos. I just started, I'm starting those up again. Oh, you are? Oh, right on. They did really, really well. You know, it's so funny, I'm just in the midst of... Well, I pitched a book to Simon and Schuster, that's not bad, but people aren't so interested

in cookbooks anymore. No. I think they are, because they're really into the, like the trad wife is like a still a thing. Yeah. I don't know. I think if I did a book about cookbooks- Yeah, but they do, you just need to do those things where you throw like Cheetos on the

counter and then put cheese on top and then blow dry it to cook it. You know those stupid TikTok videos. But I think if I ever did do a cookbook and I've thought about it a lot and even laid it out on, you know, on chat GDP, you know, how we would do it. That's the way I do my whole life now. I'm like, I gotta figure out what to eat.

What should Dorinda eat tonight? And they're like, Dorinda, do you think? I love that chat GDP. You should be like the voice in the maps. I would be so much better in college if I had I had that right you should be the voice in the maps I'm gonna ask I'm gonna ask my maps to make you the voice and just have Changing it at the last second I'm changing it at the last second. No, I think if I ever did a cookbook, it'd have to be a cookbook sort of entertaining

lifestyle book. That way I think you could grab the attention. My favorite day of my life. Or a cookbook show. My Christmas. Like I'd rather you, I'd rather see you, I mean, I like watching you make your food, you know, and hear you talking and telling stories and stuff like that. I mean, a book.

No one reads. People just pretend to read. I mean, a book. No one reads. People just pretend to read. I mean, look how unnatural it looks on the traders when they show one of those reality stars in a bathtub reading the book. They don't even know how to hold the book. So Kiki is great, because Kiki covers all these trials.

And we started, she started going, I just don't. She started going very deep yesterday about the Kim Kardashian trials. Oh, what are you on? Can you tell that you're just talking about your interests and the way you do these trust like you she could have been a lawyer. I honestly couldn't have because I hate school. You have the thought of going to school that long is like, you know, I mean, like, it's

just like, I think most people, you know, especially when it comes to celebrity, like they want to understand what's happening, but going to actual court is like boring. Like the Tom Girardi trial, there were times I was literally like passing now and I was like, this is terrible. And it wasn't until Tom was just like, you know, saying F you to the prosecutor that it's like, oh, we get exciting. But I think people just want the sparks notes, right?

They just want the highlights of what happened. And I'm willing to like... You want the long order version that's over in 45 minutes. Exactly, and I'm willing to go through the torture of it all just to get the highlights. And you know what's great about this combining forces? You know, everybody has their methods, the way they do it. You know, I kind of ran the show, I'd watch it,

and kind of as a... There's a lot of sort of as an ex-reality star or someone that was on, that understands the production. I have my point of view. And then Kiki has a totally different point of view. And it's really interesting to, you know, talk like, you know, give us, because we both learn a lot from each other, which I think helps the audience.

And we have a very healthy calling, which I really love. I think a good call in radio shows. Kiki, you've been at this for a little while now, right? In terms of content creation, podcasting, et cetera. How long have you been in the game? Honestly, it all started during lockdown. Like when everyone was doing nothing, I just started making TikToks and I don't sing or dance. So I was like, I know how to talk. And so I'll just talk

about stuff. And that's where it really started. And I just did that. And it eventually led to where we are, which is what's so funny because it's like, in the world of Bravo, yeah, people would probably say, yeah, I'm the fan, right? Cause I was like, I am a fan who has now just like become someone who wants to talk about it a lot, which is why I do love hearing Dorenda's perspective because someone who's been on the other side of the camera, I'm like, okay, I'm seeing things, but let me tell you as a fan, we do not agree. Erica update me on the Erica Gerardi stuff,

because she's still got stuff beyond Tom, right? And like this season of Beverly Hills, they just kind of watched, they walked right past all of that. But I was really into that stuff and I just kind of got bored. Cause trials, the other thing about trials is they just take years and years.

Forever. And I just got hired. Did you hear Kiki that they really gave her friends of contract? I mean, again, I think it was if they did that at all, I believe they did it in the same way they did it to Dorit to get a fire under her ass because like it works, right? Because like Erica's not, she has said she's not going anywhere and she does have trials of her home that are not attached

to Tom directly that are specifically for her. And she can easily go on and say, well, I can't talk about it. It's a pending legal litigation. And so they're like, well, if you're not going to talk about it, friend of, and then maybe they'll get a fire on her ass and maybe, you know, she had an easy season. So they're kind of like, you're not going to get an easy season. She had an easy season. But you know, listen like, you're not gonna get an easy season. She had an easy season, but, you know, listen, regardless of, like, if the content was there, regardless, she had... I mean, they had really a gut...

I think it'd be a huge mistake to make her a friend of. I just think she's a... Physically, for the eyes, she's a fixture. You know, she looks great in the lineup. I think it was totally fair that she got a little past this year. Well, for a while, weren't they kind of casting people? For a while, weren't they casting people and then telling them kind of at a later date whether or not they were a friend of?

Exactly. Do you think it's just maybe like a threat? I think it's with you, it's like you're re-auditioning kind of thing. What do you think about the Garcelle departure? That made me sad, because I love Garcelle. I'm a huge Garcelle fan. I didn't like the Garcelle departure at all, but I would have, it kind of reminded me of the Vanderpump departure where she just said, all right, fuck you then, I'm out.

And I don't like that. Did you see the moment when she turned? Like I want you to show up and I want you to fight these idiots. You know, that's the whole point. I want you to stand up for yourself. And I understand that there's other little reasons she did that. You know what I think it was with Garcelle that I think got because just knowing her, you know, what little I know about her. But she reminds me she's a lot like me in a way.

I can deal with a lot of stuff. But when people are disloyal and I just felt she felt like she had that moment where you just said, and then we're like, one of these things go to get like no, no one likes me here. Yeah, like no one even. And, you know, I think it was very hurtful when she was called boring and doesn't show her life and, you know, I don't know. Especially from Erica who,

like one of my biggest complaints with Erica, I think in some ways Erica's really good, but one of my issues with Erica is, you still don't really know who her friends are. We don't really know what her life is. I know. Outside of hanging with this group. And it's been like 10 years.

And we've never seen a boyfriend. I thought about that the other day or a date. We don't see the sun. We don't really see anything. We only see her getting into outfits. And I just think that is her. Yeah, like for me, that is her. I don't know that she has boyfriends and I'm not accusing her of anything. But I think that sometimes I think a lot of that was just an act, her like over sex, sex kitten thing.

I think she went home to Tom. You know? You never see Erika out with mystery man. You did with briefly, I think she was in Las Vegas and there was some guy during the trial, but I don't even know if that was her. You didn't see her do that. That Rush Limbaugh looking guy who owned the casinos.

But you rarely see caught, you know, Erica with a man leaving a restaurant. I actually go as far to say I think Erica is probably when she's not working or performing as a big homebody. I see the way she loves her home so much. Which which is why it was obnoxious that she called Garcelle boring because it's like, OK, call me boring. But you don't get to call me boring when you're not showing all these things. Or if you're not showing them because you don't have them going on.

And I think that Garcelle also was just like, wow, I don't know if these people like me. I'm not getting any backup from Sutton. And on top of that, I'm at a place right now where I'm producing these movies. I've got some, I've got a brand new grandchild. I've got a house. I've got a house. I got my beach people. She parlayed it. She parlayed it into something better pretty early on. brand new grandchild. I got a house. I got a house, I got my beef.

She parlayed it into something better pretty early on. So I think she was like, okay, I got it, bye. Not only that, I think the thing with Sutton, she's just, I mean, that was like, I think that was, I think I would think knowing Sutton that she feels very bad about that. You know, that happens sometimes. The show, you get yourself in a thing with the show,

it takes over and you run with it, and then you realize, oh, that's right, you really are my friend. And that's what you're hoping the off season allows you to re-knit back together. But sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes, you know, the show takes over and you forget that you've got a ride or die to the left

because, you know, you're kind of ride or die to the left because you know you're kind of getting the glitz and glamour and fame of it all. Yeah. Were there any relationships you felt in your life in your experience on Roni where you're like, oh, that's too bad. Like, like the show kind of like we sort of lost our way because of it. No, because we always knit back together. I mean, anyone that was worth knowing anybody that I ever talked to now I that I ought to talk to,

now I'm pleased not to talk to. Yeah, you're fine not to talk to. But I'm very Sagittarian like that, you know what I mean? December 4th over here. When you're done, you're done. Well, I'm never done, which is why I'm going to bring this up again.

But I've done what I'm done, but what I will do is I don't get, I don't sweat the small stuff. So if it's just a argument or something that we can get past, I'm like, let's just put it behind us. But if someone- Well, I think as we get older too, we see how cycles work with people. And it's like people come and people go and-

That's it. You keep the close ones close and fuck the rest, you know? Story of my life. Update me on, I really wanna know about the Erika Girardi Marco Marco case. What's happening with that? That's the one I'm feeling too. You know, that's the thing.

Like I've been trying to keep up. It looked like there was a filing, because it looks like I guess there was a case also happening in Florida or something, and I guess from maybe the other partner. And there was a filing that wasn't done by her attorney. And so there was like, could be a default judgment automatically that goes towards it. But I don't know if that's being rectified, but that one is definitely still headed to trial. I know that she tried to get it dismissed, but it's definitely going to trial. I just don't know when, because I think that her bankruptcy, like the 25 million, like, because what we learned in the Tom Gerardi trial is, you know, $25 million did get transferred

to EJ Global LLC. And so there is a case basically around that. And so I think that's happening first. And so I think, you know, I don't know. Again, like you said, trials, they take forever. You saved me the Google land because I get tired. How's all these lawyers getting paid? I mean, I think the Vegas guy, no?

Yeah, I guess it just, the Vegas guy no, yeah Almost be on contingency because I know myself I talked to my trademark lawyer and two days later I built for six thousand turn eight hours. I was like what I just asked me to tell me how to spell my Trademark that I post, you know, I know that's how I am. I'm like, please don't make us call the lawyer Bills these people like I was even thinking about Dorit and PK. You know that's going to be expensive. And it's so interesting, KK, because we'll talk about it today in the show, but remember yesterday everyone was asking this tenure why Dorit, why he waited, no, why he didn't file before the 10-year mark

Yeah, it's kind of all coming out. But isn't that isn't that because Aren't they saying that the moment of separation is when it counts anyway But then she put on the filing when she filed TBD on the date of now separate No, it doesn't you have to actually file it because- Oh, okay. Yeah, for financial reasons. That's the beginning. But you really do have to file because if you reach the 10-year mark of being legally

married, when you file, you start to do the dissolving of the marriage, right? But what's interesting is because people always look at at, you know, when they're gonna split the equitable distribution. But if you gotta remember, accurate distribution works in both ways, when you have money and when you have debt. Well, that's the big question with them, right? Because do they even have money still? I was listening to Bravo Docket, which I love,

and they were going through PK's cases, and that man was worth like three quarter of a billion dollars. Like his businesses were worth a ton of money. And then he went through all these bankruptcies and all of this, and now they're not paying their mortgage for months at a time. They just got that paid off. But I think the question is like, do they have any?

Where is it hidden? Like, where is it hidden? Because you know there's something. The bigger question in divorce is what does he have, but what are his debts? Because that's what they take out first. The debts are always the scariest part of any, you know. Yeah, what was used as collateral on debt?

What was, yeah, like that's the scariest part. What, is stuff gonna start getting repode? Then the only option is to sell the house. Yeah. If someone can't buy out the other one, then there's a 40 cent of them. Well, they don't own, that house I believe is owned by one of his business LLCs with multiple partners. So I don't even think she would get a ton from that.

But we have to let you go. But before we go, give us a prediction of the next real house life to go down with legal issues. We'll start with you, Keith. Oh, my God, the next? I feel like, oddly enough, I think Kyle Richards might end up, only because Mauricio, I keep hearing things about Mauricio and because they're still married, I feel like she might get dragged into it in an Erika Jayne type situation.

I'm just saying, I just... And Kathy said this year, Kathy said this year something like, he doesn't have the money to pay somebody off. Like, she made a comment like that, that was like, Mauricio, what doesn't he though? Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like that could be, I feel like there could be a shocker in that situation and it could be around that. Okay. Well, that's interesting. What do you think, Dorinda? Well, I don't have any backing on this. So I just, we don't need backing. You just want to guess? Yeah, just to guess. I mean, if the gods were to whisper in my ear,

I think we're going to see some problems. I can't get sued for this, can I? No. Well, no, we're just going to hold on. Do I have to say the word allegedly? We're just guessing. Allegedly. You say allegedly.

This is like a Deadpool, where you guess who's going to die in the next year. It's just morbid, morbid periodicity. I feel like there's a lot of shit and things going around Bronwyn from Salt Lake City. There is, yes. Ooh, that's gonna be an interesting season. It seems to be accumulating and accumulating fast,

and I don't know, something, I just have a feeling. And I think those girls are digging it out as we speak. They are. Now, that cast is gonna fuck with your life, I'll tell you that. Especially because, well, especially especially, honestly that entire cast, it could be that entire cast because like between like Lisa Barlow and Whitney Rose, like the bottom's gonna fall out somewhere.

I also think that Drew Sedora, I think Drew Sedora could wind up having something. Really? That's a good one. That one's kind of... Doesn't she already? I'm curious about yours. I'm really curious. Well, we're just trying to figure out what her husband does.

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