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Episode Date: May 26, 2025

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This is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, Hey, wait a minute. I didn't hear part one guys. It's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one. Okay. It's before this one. Bye.

Enjoy the show. Okay. So now we get to my personal favorite scene, dunking on Angela's properties. I love these because they're always hilarious to me that Angela's like, I have seven investment, seven? No, start with one, start with one. Who can do seven?

That's crazy. So they go check out this house and Charles is with her. So she's like, do you like it Charles? He's like, I would like if it was sold. Because he's partially invested to his money. Yes. So this house- They have bad properties though. What's that?

They're not bad properties. They're not bad properties. Yeah, she's not doing a terrible job. It's just, and I like that she's sharing it too, because I feel like a lot of housewives would be like, oh, I'm selling this for five million dollars, and then you'd never see it again. But Angela's like, this hurts. And that's the thing, I think that's what people are liking about Angela.

There's a level of authenticity that we're getting from her that we're not getting from anyone else on this show. And I think this is why Andy has compared her to Sheree, because although Sheree has lied and continues, there is this level of like awkwardness and like, whoa, whoa, whoa to her. That is just... That is, it's funny to watch. But she's, Angel's not afraid to show it.

Yes. So they look it over. I mean, the house looks nice for the most part. It's a mess. Like, it hasn't been cleaned up, the house looks nice for the most part. It's a mess. Like it hasn't been cleaned up. It hasn't been finished right. And she's using like those paper blinds and they're all, it looks like an animal went wild in there on the blinds.

I don't know what's going on with the blinds, but she bought this for $3.38. She listed it for $4.99 and now it's back down to $3.38, which is really sad. Yeah. I mean, look, anyone that's been in this business of buying and selling and renovating homes completely gets it. I don't think it's a big deal. I think she'll be fine.

Maybe not taking on that many properties at the same time. Yeah, it's just too many. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I agree. I like her. I'm rooting for her. So then we go to a party set up.

OK, so Britt, we've skipped the scene with Britt and her husband, which was really funny, because I think Britt had a conversation with her husband too, because he was trying to be so nice today. Usually her husband is just like, ugh, he has this look on his face, like, God, shut up. But... They did this scene in their bathrobes, and she's like, it's been a hard week, baby.

I've been working up there naked. He's like, I can't wait for you to do it, babe. It's gonna be amazing. And I'm gonna have a polar classic party at the country club with hats. And he's like, great. I completely forgot that that was the scene. Yeah. And he's pouring champagne in their bathroom,

in their robes, and he's like, you're great. I can't even tell that you had Botox, babe. Like, who is... Who are you? Bring the moody one back. I think he's trying to be better. You start to see what you saw in the early parts of the season, and you see how they change throughout the season. This is them becoming a little bit more self-aware

of the cameras and production telling them, like, uh, he's coming up a little, you know, like he doesn't want to be here, kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, he looks like something smells in the room all the time. Always. Really does. It's so funny to me. So, uh, now we go to her country club polo party.

She's like, you know, I just want this to be a classy party. This is gonna be classy in the mirror. And so they all, of course, show up to the country club in microskirts and stilettos. Yes. Yes, Atlanta. Like this show. And let's go golfing. H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H Let us off my green. I'm surprised about that too. That was the first thing I thought. Yeah, I thought, oh, they're gonna have some grumpy old men up their asses in two seconds.

But they didn't, they all dress crazy and go to this little party. And let's see what happens here. I guess the biggest things that happened here is one, Shamiah tried to pull a cheap ass housewives trick and only feed her own table. So her plan was she was gonna sit all the ladies at one table where they would have dinner,

and then all the extras from Twitter or whatever, the Twitter people, as Nina would call them, would stand around just having, you know, the cheapest champagne that Trader Joe's sells. And no one would notice they're not eating. But they accidentally set all the tables. And so now everybody thinks they're gonna eat, but there's no food.

It was a lame event. It was definitely giving lame. But, you know, production loves to do that too. Like, oh, let's show it. Like, this is our first event. She doesn't know how to throw the event. She doesn't know how this works. She doesn't realize that she's gonna look terrible on camera. Yeah. Sell it!

Of course, you gotta show it. Well, the best part was showing all the people who weren't getting chicken. They were so pissed. Oh, my God. They kept showing the ladies kind of digging in, and no one wanted to eat, Portia's like, um, I'm gonna put this in my purse. Like, she didn't even want to eat this.

I know. And everybody's sitting around them on their phones looking so pissed. And she's like around them on their phones looking so pissed. And she's like, all right, I'm gonna announce that they're naked. And she started going on, I wanted to feel like you're naked or whatever. And people are just looking at her like, fuck off.

And then she announces that she's bought, she's brought product for everybody that's eating, which leaves out the poor people. Just with her special ladies. Awkward. which leaves out the poor people. Just with her special ladies. -♪ POPPY LAUGHS So awkward. -♪ POPPY LAUGHS So the shade came here when she gives everybody their gift, and of course, it's dissed by people. You know, Shemeah's like,

oh my God, I opened the box and there was nothing in it. It was bare naked. There wasn't even tissue paper in there. The box was lonely. Yeah, that was... Again, Britt doesn't know... It feels like Britt had a desperate attempt to, like, I need to shop or share some sort of business if I'm going to be on this show. And I think that's what she did with this business.

Like, oh, I'm gonna promote this, because she doesn't have the insurance company. I don't think her insurance school that she's launched was set up by then. I don't know if it's... Learn to be a boss bitch for $150. It's like, really? So I think she just felt like she needed to promote something and that's why.

And again, she just doesn't know how to present. She doesn't know how to host. And then no one has food. You're giving out the wrong sizes. You gave an extra large to Angela. She gave an extra large to Angela. Oh oh no. Do you remember what Angela looked like at the pampered by Porsche event? Angela looks good, body is too.

Yes, Angela looks good, so she tried it. But yeah, that didn't really work, but I thought it was really funny that she couldn't feed everybody. Ha ha. So they shaded her. Also, can I just say, I kind of miss the Housewives days where you didn't have to have a business promoting something. That's fine. What happened to like Vicky's, I go to the car wash all the time. That was Vicky's storyline in season

one. She's like, in Orange County, we go to the car wash every day. And that's the thing. This is what Housewives has turned into. I wish production would lean away from that because it's okay if you have interesting personalities. We don't need them to be launching a business. Literally, the season we see Drew and Shamia launching music. And I'm like, okay, pick one. Because I've seen them do that with other reality shows. If someone has a similar storyline, they're like, okay, we're not going to show that or highlight that.

Yeah. It just feels like overkill. It feels desperate. It feels like a bunch of fans that are now on reality television, like, oh, I want to launch a business. I want to be the next Bethany Frankel. Well, you're not going to be. I'm okay with you just being bored housewives or whatever. Just bored people with money starting fights

because you're bored. That's what I liked about it. We don't need to all go out there and go get them. Just stay home and take them. They were just taking your money. Sit down. So Angela sees her extra large and she's like, maybe she got these confused with the size of her toothbrush for a big ass mouth.

To find out Porsche Portia asks Britt what her inspiration is for this line. And Britt's like, it's when I got a BBL. And I was like, oh no. Shapewear inspired by your first BBL. She's like... I mean, I don't know if you remember at the Nashville,

everyone was pointing out like, oh, she's got a BBL when she was in the bathing suit. I was like, yeah, at least she's open about it. She's got a BBL. she was in the bathing suit. I was like, yeah, at least she's open about it. She's got a BBL. It's a very big BBL. Kenya still won't admit to hers, and Kenya's looks crazy. Kenya says it's all accommodating to her stallion booty work. Yes, it's all crunches.

Not crunches, squats. What do you squat? You could lift a Mack truck. Get out of here, Ies squats. What do you squat? You could lift a Mac truck. Get out of here. I saw squats. So she was very inspired by her BBL because when she started her insurance company, she really wanted to do it, but it wasn't the right time. But then her and her girlfriends went and had an out of town party. And it was a plastic surgery party where they just all went and got surgeries together. Yeah.

What kind of friends are those and where can I find them? No. I don't want those types of friends. Because that says to me, we're getting bootleg surgery. I'm not trying to get bootleg surgery. Give me a Chris Jenner surgeon, please, and thank you. I think we've discovered him. I think I discovered him actually today. I'm not giving out his name. Yes.

Really? I'm a gatekeeper. No, I need his name. I need to get my lids done. I heard he's very particular. Apparently, he also did... He did Brad Pitt, Demi Moore, and who else had some good surgery recently. Demi Moore looks good, yeah. Brad Pitt still looks good. But I mean, that's kind of unfair.

Those are the most beautiful people in the world. It's not like they ever looked bad. But did you see Brad Pitt before though? The age was starting to age. The milk was... Oh, really? Yeah, come on. Oh, I didn't even know. I don't think I have seen him. Oh, I watched the teams and videos.

But he looks fantastic. I read about his fathering skills... Oh. ...all the time. Or like, you're rough. Yeah, that's rough. Who knew? Who knew a really hot guy. With nothing going for him except his hotness. And money would turn out to be an asshole.

I mean, Jennifer Aniston could have told you. Yeah, Jennifer. Yeah, but that whole thing was weird, too. I'm sorry. There's so many tangents in this podcast. But I remember back in the day, by the way, why are they still on magazine covers? Like, do people really still care what Jennifer Aniston is doing every day? She's still on the grocery store tabloids every day. So anyway, back then, I remember Jennifer saying in an interview, you know, I don't marry, whatever this is with Brad is to me, I only want him to be with me if he wants to be with me.

And if he doesn't want to be with me, then I'm glad he's with somebody else. And then he went with Angelina Jolie. So I was like, you shouldn't say that. You're supposed to say, if you ever leave me, I'm cutting your dick off, and I'm slashing you down the middle of your moneymaker, your face. That's it.

But look what happened. He ended up with Angelina, and they have these beautiful children that he doesn't speak to anymore. Yeah, now instead of just having Jennifer Aniston, who resents you, you've got Angelina and six children that he doesn't speak to anymore. Yeah. Now, instead of just having Jennifer Aniston, who resents you, you've got Angelina and six children that hate you. Yeah. Good man.

How many years? They finalized their divorce recently, right? Oh gosh, I don't know. He probably got the facial surgery before the divorce even happened. I would hope so. He was probably onto his next face before the first divorce was even met. I don't know, but I want lids done. Okay, text me that name. Oh, okay.

Like I could afford Chris Jenner's. I'll be like, can I want lids done. Okay, text me. Okay, like I could afford Chris Jenner's I'll be like, um, what can I trade you for a used Vespa? And I heard the guy is very particular on who he actually does. I'm like, Oh, well, start saving your coins from now. I want whoever did Chloe because I think Chloe looks like a totally different human being and she gets criticized for that a lot. They're like, she got a head transplant. And I'm like, what's the number? It's probably the same guy.

No, probably. I'm in. Okay, so they start talking about what surgery they would want. And Shemeya wants to get her back fat sucked out. And... I saw my friend get her back fat sucked out, like, 20 years ago, and I said, I could never do it. Women are special. I don't know how they go through these surgeries. And I said, I could never do it. Women are special. I don't know how they go through these surgeries.

And then after like the recovery, it's like, hell, I get like a hangnail. I'm like, out. I can't. I don't know what it is. We're pussies, because we're men. That's how it is. It's like when a woman gives birth to like five children and she's back to work and then a man gets a cold and we're like, oh! I'm making the chance to un-name my mommy. Yeah, the same way. to like five children and she's back to work. And then a man gets a cold and we're like, -"Oh, ho, ho!" -"I'll make him a chance

to have me my mommy." Yeah, the same way. But did her skin really hurt for like years after her back fat surgery or did it... Well, I don't recall that part. I just remember, I can literally still see her coming out of the surgery just for when she was out of it. And then she had to wear this like garment

for like how many days. I was like, I don't know how you do it. And the thing is with that, you could gain the weight back and it might show up as a hump on the back of you. I got a cousin where that happened too. Ooh, I should have said that. -♪ PAULA LAUGHS? -♪-It's true. It's like when you get the, you know, the Botox wherever to stop your sweating and then you start sweating

in other places, so you'll be sweating out your wiener hole or whatever. Really? Yeah, you'll sweat other places, like random places. Not really a wiener hole. I've got sweaty elbows now, you know. Start coming out. It's got to come out somewhere. That's why I say, God says don't mess with anything in your body. Because I was thinking about it. I was like, you know what, I always sweat, especially when I'm in the studio. Like, I, you know, I don't want those sweat marks. But now I'm like, now you said that,

I don't be sweating somewhere else. Yeah, you'll be sweating somewhere else. So don't do it. But that, I don't know. I want them to find like clips that they can just put me on my stomach, put clips on my back, and lift me like in one of those torture videos. And then just sew me up. Just sew it all the way from the bottom to the top.

I don't think I can make it through the recovery of that. Well, put me in an induced coma. You know how they have those? The entire recovery? Yeah. I'll just be like, see you guys in a couple of years. I'll be dead for a while. And just come back looking sweet with like a big seam up the back of my body. I like cry when... I literally just went to my esthetician.

I still got a little some red marks on my face from my esthetician. Even that alone, I'm like, this is a lot. I don't know. You know who doesn't cry? People in comas. So I'm just saying many coma induce that. Do we know that, though? The people that you're not suffering, even though you're in a coma.

Well, they could be suffering, but no one has to hear about it. (*LAUGHTER*) (*LAUGHTER*) All right, so we talk about all of this bare naked stuff. What they're really missing here is a storyline of Portia getting pissed off that she stole her name, like in Tipsy Girl versus Skinny Girl on New York. We really need that.

And Portia did give her a little shade when asked about it, but I need more from that. Yeah, Portia was like, you know, Go Naked's been around for 10 plus years. And I mean, based on what I've seen of the Go Naked hair, it actually looks good. Does it? I don't know if the girls are really buying

Go Naked hair like that. I'm gonna have to ask, I'll get back. I'll report back. I don't know. It's hard for me to judge because I've seen Dr. Heavenly's wigs. So that's pretty high quality. Oh, really? Oh, sure. Everything else pales in comparison. Yeah. Everything else pales in comparison to those Heavenly wigs. Dr. Heavenly.

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by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts. Okay, so now we get some husband action. in the Wondery app him on the spot. And Britt's like, okay, well, and also I'm not one of Charles' whores. I was so confused by that. I was like, she never said you were one of his whores, she called you a whore. Yeah, I didn't think she ever said

you could be one of his whores. Why does she even have to flatter herself in the diss? She didn't say that, man. Thank you for saying that, because I didn't think so either, but I was too lazy to go back and look at the episode. No, literally what they flashed back in this episode, what she said, she called her, you are a whore. And again, we're watching an edited show,

so who knows what was said in that moment. A lot more could have been said, but based on what we saw, she called you a whore. Yeah, thank you. So he's like, what are you talking about? I don't you a whore. Yeah, thank you. So he's like, what are you talking about? I don't have a whore. And she goes, oh, well, she said that I could be one of your whores. And he's like, uh, no.

And she goes, well, I'm trying to be funny. He's like, that's not funny. I felt like Charles was just like, that's not funny and the salad sucks. Have you seen one person even eat this salad? I'm surprised they didn't just start throwing the salad to the poor people. At the mall. the poor club. So, Shemeah starts, someone starts, Shemeah and Drew start going on about Shemeah being called the lap dog.

And that whole thing, which is, I'm tired of this fight. What is this episode 10? Episode 12. Oh, my gosh. We're way past halfway through the season. So, Portia, no. So, Drew said, well, Portia shouldn't be bad about the music because I'll make so much money with this music,

it could pay for Portia's college. I didn't even think it was that bad, did you? When she initially said it, I was like, I was like, I don't think you should say something like that. But the way she said it was kind of funny. Yeah, I thought she just might still benefit from the money if she's getting money from Dennis. I didn't take it as that big of a deal.

And she said in the after show, Dennis had said something similar to that, and that's why money from Dennis. I didn't take it as that big of a deal. And she said in the after show, Dennis had said something similar to that and that's why she said that. So I don't think it was enough for Shemeah to go bring it back to Portia, like she said it in such a negative way. Yeah. But I also don't think-

Especially when the whole internet's kind of saying what Drew says, no offense. But you know, the whole internet has been saying that for a long time, but I can understand that that's probably what makes her a little more sensitive to it too, you know? I think she also was dragging out any sort of beef that she could have with Drew. Again, something else is going on with Portia. They just need to move it along.

Also I need Drew to find out that they went out with Ralph. Yeah. Why hasn't that become a thing? Is that going to become a thing on the trip? I'm thinking maybe during the reunion. No, I need it now. You guys finally had something good happen. Do it now.

Maybe during the trip, maybe during a trip they're going to bring it up. Yes. That they had dinner with Ralph, which was clearly, again, Shemei, you don't want to be called a lap dog, but that was clearly lap dog behavior. Yes. Ralph is going to you for podcast advice because you guys had a podcast together, which I think had like two episodes.

I was going to say, was that an actual podcast or were they just guesting on somebody else's podcast? They were on the YouTube channel. I mean, come on. It's like, I can go to lunch with him. We were in business together. We've done a podcast. And then Portia magically shows up. I didn't know he was going to be here.

Y'all think we're dumb? It is crazy. So then, speaking of, do you think you're dumb, Drew's label. So Drew's going on and on about this label that she signed with. Isn't this just like a thing that you sign up for on the internet? Yeah. Well, I think the Hot Dog king has a hot dog label, music label.

And that's why they were having this meeting for her to sign contracts with the lawyer. If I'm not mistaken. Oh, so she- In this day and age, you don't really need a label to put out music. Especially- Right. Especially, I mean, I have to say the project is good.

I'm never gonna take away from the project. I think it's not very- It is good, yeah. It's a good project. But again, I don't think she project is good. I'm never going to take away from the project. I think it is good. Yeah. It's a good project. But again, I don't think she needed a label to, to put out this music, especially she's in Atlanta. It's 2025. You really don't need a label. It's just so Drew to be like, I'm having a party for my label signing.

And then we looked up the label cause we were curious and you know, I love the Google as you've seen, so we looked it up and it was like, sign up now to be part of this label. And it was one of those like the distributes your music, you know, I love the Google, as you've seen. So we looked it up and it was like, sign up now to be part of this label. And it was one of those like that distributes your music, you know, that's kind of a... That does it for a monthly fee or whatever. Yeah, you know what I mean? But I don't know, maybe she could have a contract within that company. I mean, I don't know.

And having catapulted her music, like it's, like I said, it's a good album, it's a good project, but you signing with Dennis hasn't catapulted you to be on the Big Tigger show, where your song is being played. You're not on the charts, sorry. Well, she was, right? She was on number five on Apple. Well, the iTunes, I'm talking about Billboard. Oh, yeah. I'm a podcaster, I just look at Apple.

So... Which is good. No, don't get me wrong. It's good. And like I said, the project is good, and I'm rooting for Drew, but I'm also realistic. Like, girl, you still... There's a lot of work that you could be doing if you're going to sign to a... I have a music background for those that don't know. So, if you're going to sign to a record label,

it's got to be worth it. It's going to align you with certain producers, align you for certain opportunities. It's going to get you on the music charts. It hasn't really done that. Yes, iTunes is fantastic, but that's off the strength of her name and being on Real Housewives of Atlanta.

That's not going to open up doors when it comes to the actual industry that doesn't want to really welcome in reality stars. Okay, yeah, I got you. Cause I was wondering why is she renting out this WeWork to pretend she's signing it, like, is it an actual label? Because she made it sound like she was at the label, but then she was with her lawyer,

and then she had to have a call with Dennis to clear up that he never said that he was fucking her in exchange for studio space. Yeah. Yeah. So, that's also crazy. And I get it, people are like, you know, she doesn't lie about a lot, but she lies a lot. There's a lot of, there's a lot of like pretend

that we get from Drew. And I also didn't understand. Why is there a road manager there? Is that your manager? But they said road manager. Like, are we on tour? I don't know. So much of Drew just confuses me. And then she signed the paper, but I don't know what she was signing. Neither does paper, but I don't know what she was signing. Neither did she.

I still don't know what she was signing. She was signing like her door dash tip. I don't know what it was. But she started jumping around and screaming. And then we get the scene some of us have been waiting for. The return of Phaedra. Phaedra's back.

And she's ready to fuck some shit up. So we had a Phaedra and, um, Porcha scene where they were also dancing around together with Champagne and laughing. But I bought it because, I don't know, they've had more than a decade, or they've had like a decade to back it up or whatever. But have they really even been around each other?

I've seen Porcha with Candy more than I've ever seen. I have never even seen her with Phaedra since the show ended with them. I don't know, but today I went to a housewarming thing, and it was for my old boss that I used to wait tables at this Moroccan restaurant for like 10 years. And it was the waiters, like me and these three girls, and we were like best friends, like we just saw each other.

So I think like housewives is probably like waiting tables where you see each other and you're like, do you remember that old fucker who used to come in and make us get extra butter? Like no one gets me like you guys. But I would have expected at least maybe once, we would have seen Portia and Phaedra together, especially because they're in these worlds.

And we just literally saw them come together recently for this show. Well, they were both doing the Housewife talk around like, And we just literally saw them come together recently for this show. So... And they were both doing the housewife talk around, like, oh, gosh, we've stayed friends. Well, I mean, you know, we've, you know, we're kind of friends. Okay, well... And it's also Atlanta, too.

We do see each other all the time. She's like, but you've never been to this house, right? Well, you've been there for a while, right? And the thing is, too, it's Atlanta. You see, these people see each other all the time. So it's kind of shocking that we haven't seen like them in photos or anything like that in the last 10 years. Yeah. Well, maybe they weren't taking them together

because they probably get slammed every time they post a picture together in the past. Ever since Pedro left. They don't care. They don't care. You don't think they care? No, and Pedro still hasn't even apologized. Did she not apologize? No.

Really? No. Really? No. Wow. So even now she's saying like, well, and we see the clips of they didn't say, well, yeah, I guess they did say what she said. Yeah. Which was they wanted to drug Porsche and take her to a sex stunt, which was the craziest thing. Yeah.

That was the craziest storyline anyway. It was the dumbest thing ever. I go, okay, candy and Todd really want to drug you. And then that's turned into people saying that they were calling Candy a rapist. And I was like, well, a wanting to rape. I mean, I don't know, that whole thing was so problematic. So then of course she doesn't even go into the whole thing.

She's just like, well, when I was a real housewife, the way that ended wasn't good, but let she without sin be the first to cast a stone. BOWEN LAUGHS Well, here's the thing with Phaedra. She is great television, but I feel like in this particular world of where you have to share your life,

especially if you're going to be full time here, if she was a friend of, I think it would probably work, but she's coming in, this is the last two weeks of filming that she's coming in. Oh, really? Is that late? So they just have the trip and then that's it?

Basically. Oh, wow. So there's not going to be a lot that Phaedra is going to necessarily bring. If anything, Cynthia should have been full time. She's been here since the beginning of the season and she's hosting parties and doing all these different things and trying to navigate these different battles

that's happening within the group. It doesn't necessarily make sense to me, maybe next season, because based on what Andy has said, it looks like Phaedra is formally back on Real Housewives of Atlanta until further notice. Well, it looks like she's going to fuck things up. And I thought, you know, look, here comes Phaedra. She's got a chance to redeem herself.

Let's watch her be nice for a few episodes. Nope. The first thing she says, she's like, that Kelly, she's just so tiny. She's giving garden gnome. And you know, I love small people. It's my fetish. Remember my Christmas party when I had all those tiny little people?

And then we see her inviting like Pete... She's like, you are still so problematic. How is this your first monologue back? So, what is wrong with you? A lot. A lot is wrong with her. And she has some interesting things to say about Britt Eadie, or Eadie Britt, as she called her. Yeah, she said Britt E, I think.

And she said, yes, she's a woman about town, a woman about the city and countries. She's got more bodies than Willie, they say. And I was like, leave Willie Nelson out of this. But then they showed that it was Willie the Undertaker. Yes. So see, that's the thing about Phaedra, I like she's still got that funeral business.

She's got a lot of it. She's got the the the law firm. Yeah, with a question mark. Law firm. Question mark. So I think that that kind of is fadress real life. I think that she's just kind of comes off as a phony. But I mean, I don't know, like, you know, like I said, some people are just like that. I don't know what you need her to show. I mean, I don't know. Like... You know, like I said, some people are just like that.

I don't know what you need her to show. I mean, I want to see the funeral business. I just need you to show your life. And clearly, I feel she's very much like Portia. She's not going to. She's only going to show us as much. And I already knew that based off of when she was on Ultimate Girls Trip, and they were trying to bring up

the stuff of the past, and she was just not. She came home married to medicine talking about she was dating a doctor. We never got to see the doctor. We saw a cartoon character. So I just feel like even when we're supposed to get something from her, we never get there. And it's just like, okay, so what are you here? Okay, if you're going to give us commentary on the friends, okay, be a friend of. That's all we need.

I don't need to see you slobbing down, shake who's really dating some other woman in Atlanta. So that's probably... Is that what's happening? Yeah, that's the word on the street. That man thinks that he has... Oh, so she's the other woman? I think she's paying him, allegedly.

Oh, okay. Well, she's got the money. Yeah, I mean, I think that... Is that the guy that was on Married to Medicine? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, if he got the money. Yeah. I mean, I think that is that the guy that was on married to medicine? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a good job. Like he's still kind of stands up for her and stuff. That's a good oh, who is this? Oh, where do I find a hole like that? So good. Oh, so yeah, so she's getting messy about Britt and basically slut shaming Britt and

then, um, kind of getting some little people commentary in there and then she's saying, oh, and then I hear Charles Oakley has a wife now. So she's coming back to, she's coming back to cause some shit and I like it because like, obviously I respect your opinion. I don't, I just, I like when people are funny. So, if they're funny, then I forgive. Yeah. So, as long as Phaedra can make me laugh, then I'm good. And I felt like this scene,

I was like, oh, God, it's kind of back to life right now. Because I think it seems like the... What's that? It came too late in the episode. It did come too late. Yeah, I agree. But we see scenes like the country club scene, and I think that's kind of the main problem with Atlanta. We see them all trying, which is good,

because they're making an effort, which is a lot more than you can say for some shows. But it's just, yeah, truly. But it's just not really gelling. Like, they tried to start maybe three or four different fights at that Country Club scene, and they just weren't... It's like they fought about them too many times, or they just don't know each other well enough,

or they just don't care about each other enough to really fight. And so, it was nice to see people... It was nice to at least laugh. Because I was laughing my ass off. Fadre's so wrong. Yeah. I want to mention though, when they talk, when Fadre mentioned that Charles Oakley, oh, he's married, like it's a question mark. I think that would land if Wendy Williams did not talk about Angela Oakley on her nationally

syndicated daytime talk show. We all knew that Charles Oakley was married. It'd be different if we didn't know that. Like there wasn't this big drama that was in all the tabloids and on TV. And now it's coming up again. People know that he's married to Angela Oakley. Does he claim her on television? Well, that's a whole other thing.

Well, I'm wondering if Phaedra's gonna bring up that she left him or they were not together for a while, because that's so Phaedra to be like, oh, we had a wife, I thought that they broke up in the time he needed her the most or whatever, you know, Phaedra pulls some bullshit like that. I think she's gonna be in the center of all of that drama we saw in the midseason trailer that happens at that group event

where that random man is in the middle of it. Well, then she's doing her damn job, which, you know, people and I, you know, read online people are so pissed that they're bringing Phaedra back, but if she's gonna make it good even for two episodes, like, I'll take it, I will take a gold level couple of episodes of Atlanta. I'm open to it, because I do believe that at some particular point, we have to be able to move forward.

I don't feel like someone needs to be punished for forever. I think it's the same season, though, of firing Kenya for what she did, that you bring back someone that did what Phaedra did. I think that's where fans are sort of like, um, like, that doesn't make sense. But I also see a lot of people that are excited for Phaedra did. I think that's where fans are sort of like, um, like, that doesn't make sense. But I also see a lot of people that are excited for Phaedra to return. I am...

Let's finish with this, and I'm sure you've given this opinion so many times, but I haven't heard it yet. So what are your thoughts on the Kenya ordeal? Oh, my gosh. I'm surprised that they kept it in because it happened so early in the season. But the fact that they kept it in, and I said this before the season started airing, I said, the fact that they're keeping this in says to me the season wasn't that great. Because this happened the first three weeks of filming.

They filmed for several months. I was like, okay, if you're focusing on that, that says to me, everything else that you had during the season wasn't hitting. And then, Phaedra comes in at the end, says to me the season was not hitting. And then, Fajor comes in at the end, says to me, the season was not hitting. And based on what we've seen in these first 12 episodes, the most interesting episodes were like those first five episodes with Kenya there.

And I think it stood out to me, and I'm not, again, I'm not like team TORO or team anyone, team me. I don't know these people. I don't care to know these people. But the thing for me is they had Kenya there without the confessionals, and that stood out to me. And it's like, okay, Kenya's there and we kind of know Kenya would be funny and quirky and give us something in those confessionals.

And it just felt empty. So, it's like, why give us that and then not give us everything? Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And now she's not going to be at the reunion. I know. Oh, my God. That doesn't make sense. And she was a part of the season. Like, we were supposed to get the narrative from Brit 80? Oh, my God. Yeah, that whole thing.

We're gonna get some Brit tears and like... No one is... It's like played out. I'm tired of it. But, you know, sometimes with new things, it's like with the first season, sometimes it's like, this sucks. You know, I mean, real Salt new things, it's like with the first season, sometimes it's like, this sucks. You know, I mean, real Salt Lake City was the last one, I think, that was new, right?

Like, totally, well, New York. But, like, totally new, I think, with Salt Lake City. And the first year, I thought, this is fun. Like, this is funny because it's so different, but it was rough. And then to see what it became later. You know, so you've got to give them time. But sometimes it doesn't work, like New York didn't work. It was rough. And then to see what it became later. You know, so you've got to give them time. But sometimes it doesn't work. Like New York didn't work.

That second season tanked. And then, you know, we'll just... But hopefully by next year, they'll, you know, really have it to be firing all cylinders. But, you know, I support the reboot for the most part. I've just... Come on, Phaedra. Bring it around in the end, Phaedra. I think it's important. I mean, I think what we saw with Miami showed that it worked. But I think what was great about Miami

was that they had a period of time where they weren't on the air. So even the people that were a part of it originally, we hadn't seen their lives in a very long time. They haven't been on television in a long time. I think it becomes a thing when people are on television for so long that they start self-producing, they start becoming a character instead of just being real. And now they're already kind of doing it being new, you know? Like that's kind of what we're saying about Kelly and Shemia.

Yeah. So who knows? But this was great. Thank you so much for coming and spending so much time with me. I really kept you here forever. I don't know. Look at that class. This is actually light.

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