Watch What Crappens - #2862 Below Deck Down Under S03E17 Part Two: The End of TzaLara with Guest Ryan Bailey

Episode Date: May 27, 2025

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If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one. Okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show. So then as the food starts coming up. Okay. And so they're getting

the food. We do see the goat cheese tart looks beautiful. We see the asparagus with the road truffle holidays. Could have could have been with something else, as you said. The leek puree scallop. Oh, lovely. Then we get the smoker close. Always love a smoker close. Got to smoke something. And it smoked beetroot tartar with spicy avocado. What else? Saffron risotto with lobster. Yeah, and then it ended with the beef Wellington, right?

Looked like a very beautifully done beef wellington. Are they supposed to be all the way cooked through? I'm not sure. I don't really eat beef, but it looks... I mean, because earlier in the season, remember when she did the wagyu and she was upset that the ladies wanted a little cooked, and she's like, this is how you serve the meat. You know, she was like, looks good to me. Yeah. And then baked Alaska full dessert.

So, they're like, oh my God, Sabrina, you're amazing. That was great. And Laura's behind the bar just giving her a dirty look like, bitch. And she's like, thank you. And I also have to thank the lovely, gorgeous, talented Alicia. And Laura's just like, how dare she not thank me. She was like Hillary Swank's husband

standing behind the bar like, how dare you? Did you just drop a Chad Lowe reference? Yeah, she was Chad Lowe and him behind the bar, like, I can't believe I wasn't faked. Wow. Amazing. She got all pissed. And, uh, so Laura has decided now,

she's telling Bree, she's like, you know, I still need to have a discussion with Serena, you know, Jason said to be a bigger person. So I've been faking it, but I cannot be friends with someone who lies about me. Oh, she was like, attacked my work ethic and character. We just saw you try not to serve a seven course meal to people who had it on their preference sheet, ma'am. Let's not talk about your work ethic. But then she like, she like weirdly pivots

and starts doing like that prawn puppeteer show. She's like, are you gonna be with Harry? Like with the prawn puppets? Yeah. Well, she tries being cutesy to show that she's a nice person. Like, she gets the young girls, and then she's always like, oh, my God, tell me about boys. That's all she ever asks them, because she knows

that that's how to get them on her side. She's like, ooh, tell me about the boys. Have you found him asleep yet? Have you taken any stem cells? Should I show you how to do it? Mrrr! You had to do it. Mrrr! Mrrr!

Mrrr! Ha ha ha. Do you want to try to kiss with me? Harry, no, I thought it was interesting because Serena at the end says, I guess I don't want to be part of the cool clique. And I thought that was interesting that anybody thought that Laura was part of the cool clique,

or was the cool clique. Because watching it, I never thought, oh, she's like the cool one. I mean, like, you're totally right. She does make friends with the younger set, but I never pegged her as like the cool one, you know? Well, I think what she does, like from what I can tell from this, what she does is she goes to people

and she tries to appeal to them by being like, oh, look at us, just the girls, just us, talking about boys. Isn't this fun? And so she gets them all the time. So Serena, not being included in anything, just thinks that must be what cool people do. Like they just sit around, they talk about boys. And then when Serena does it, they're like, you're disgusting. That boy would not Serena. Jared Saskar Serena has big Ali Shidi in the Breakfast Club vibes, where you're just like, where is your Emilio Estevez? Where is that guy that like, they're gonna force you

to put on weird makeup and change what actually is cool about you? To me, I feel like she's like smoking cloves, drinking. I'm trying to think of like, what is actually the cool drink now? I almost said Jägermeister like a disgusting thing. Zima, what else? Yes.

For Nat Branka, that's a shot of Fernette, come on. So she's decided she's gonna come for Serena and Bri's like, oh, you're so, you totally sure. So then we go to Nate and Alicia and she's like, oh my God, can someone just please bring the dishes in? Because she's still being forced to clean this damn... What do you call it? Mess hall. And so Nate does it, and she's like,

oh God, we're still bonded. I, you know, I've fallen in love with the art of cooking more, so no more smoochies with this loser. But I'll still let him clean my dishes. BLAIR I like the fact that she had to keep explaining to the audience that she likes him. It's just that she loves sous-cheffing way more. So funny.

So then Adair, who became my favorite character this season, like out of nowhere, comes out and she's like... I'm in a hospital room and it's backwards because I can't find the belt. And then she turns her bare butt to the camera and just farts. That's a dare. That's my girl.

Nobody is ever that comfortable on their first season. Like, when you're ripping farts on camera, you're like, yeah, you might get a second season. That's really solid work. Some bare butt farts. Or when that guy was trying to date her and she's like, yeah, me and guys, we got to have Monster Truck. We'll sit in the bar and watch a game or something. I mean, what is this? You want some talk.

That reminds me of Brittany on the valley. This or no, it was on the valley after show where they're talking about Nia doing a pageants and Lala was like, well, you do pageants too. And she's like, no, I only did them at county fairs. Well, you do pageants too. And she's like, no, I only did them at county fairs. And I just, I was saying. It was like, Mike, I want more Bravo shows that like literally have people ripping farts. Like imagine if, do you think Janet could win the audience

over if she just started ripping farts one episode? And just was like real proud of it? She's still trying with her whole, oh my God, I love Dave and Buster. She would totally do it if she could. The big she'll try that next season. Okay, sorry, don't get me started on Janet. Oh my God. Okay, so then in the morning,

now, they're talking about, you know, Oh, are you going to still be a chef? Yeah, I'm going to go to school to be a chef. And then Laura's doing her her prawn play. And pre is like, Oh my god, do I have a future with Harry? We're executive exclusive now. Jared Slauson That line, I did you, I was told that that is actually like a thing with the kids now. That term, the exclusive term that they use, like that's an actual thing that kids are using now. In fact, it's a little like Jesse and Lexi from Summer House. Of like, we're not officially boyfriend and girlfriend,

but we're executive, exclusive, or whatever that wording was. I guess kids are actually using that now. Yeah, I mean, we won't fuck other people, but we'll still... we'll be committed to each other, but only sexually. There's something, I don't know. Like, do you update your LinkedIn with that? That's crazy. Like, executive, exclusive. And I don't know. Like, do you update your LinkedIn with that? That's crazy. Exactly. Like executive exclusive. And I didn't think she was going to,

I thought she was going to get too scared because she just like, you know, wasn't engaged a year ago. And then by the end of this episode, she's like fully like Harry's my boyfriend. Yeah. Because he cried. You know, she loves a sobbing and apology. So dude, and you know, he's also the guy that like he makes love. He doesn't have sex. he makes love to you. And he also cries, he cries after sex too. I feel like he risks things in his face. Forever. I've always wanted. I see what I've dreamed about at night. I see my forever in your eyes. And she's always like, why are you shaking? Because I'm in love.

Yes. And then like, he'll drop in a you remind me of my mom. She'll be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. Roll back from that a little. In a sexy way. Yeah. So it's the end of the season now. They've done it. I just sprayed perfume in my mouth. I'm so wacky. Like wacky Brie. um... Serena can tell something's off with Laura. And Laura's decided to make it her season finale confrontation scene, so she's not ready just yet. So Serena's like, are you okay?

And she's like, I'm just exhausted. I'll wait until I have a full camera crew to really tell you off. Let you have it. Like, all right. So everybody says bye, they got a good tip. It was the best tip of the season. $2,000 almost, right?

Yeah, $2,500. And Serena finally gets the helmet, so she's excited. Didn't she look like Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber when she put that helmet on? You know what I'm talking about when Lloyd has the helmet? Like, on there, I was like, when she put that on, I was like, there's something very Jim Carrey-esque about Serena in that shot.

So then we go to, I'm just like a lot of this is a finale stuff like Carrie and Brie talk about the relationship, do not care. Do not care. And he starts going, Oh, but you know, goodbye, exclusive executive partner, girlfriend. I mean, I didn't say it. I can't even say it. I can't even say it. Oh my God, will Harry call me his girlfriend? It's so ridiculous. I honestly want to push these people down. Like they're close to like 30, right?

They're not like 18 or 18. They're like, they're acting like infants. These two are just like, Oh, my God, he kissed me. Should we talk about it? It truly reminded me of like the first time I thought I fell in love, like sophomore year of high school. Like, that's the vibe. Like, where you're like, it's that like, you hang up first, you hang up first.

Or like, let me stay on the phone with you all night long. You hang up first. You like, I just want to listen to you sleep. Like, it's very creepy now as an older man to say that. But like, when you're young, you're just like, let me stay on the phone with you all night long. You hang up first. Just listen to you. I just want to listen to you sleep. Like, it's very creepy now as an older man to say that. But like, when you're young, you're just like so obsessed. And like, you're hanging on every word. You think you're going to blow it at any moment. Like, you're always thinking you're

going to do something wrong and it's going to end it. So you need to assure them how much you've never felt. Because your heart has never felt anything like that before, like that first time you feel in love. That's how they're acting right here. Like, Harry has never felt anything like that before, like that first time you feel in love. That's how they're acting right here. Like Harry has never felt anything like this in his life. So it is life or death for him. Or at least had someone feel it back.

And she's a model, which he puts great stock in. He's like, I've got a model now. Yeah. He said he never could get a girl like him. Yeah. Like her. And I forget sometimes that I'm talking about people who are like less than half my age too. I have to remember, you know, cause I am just an old bitter man who's felt

all these things before. And by the way, I was feeling them much later than them. I date so weirdly now that if anybody says hello to me, that's hot. I'm like, Oh my God. I'm like looking him up on Instagram. I'm like, do we like any of the same things? Why is he private? Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. That's the Ronny. That's adorable. Like if I, if you in bed like going like, do we have mutuals?

And just like take- I get like that. Do you like scroll through and then like just see their life and how like picturing how you could fit into it? Well, yeah, you know, you can tell everything from someone's social profiles, you know, and like, will they hate me? You know, because you can tell like their interest in my interests or whatever and see

if they align or like, do we have mutuals? You know, like politically, what have they said? Yeah, you know, like if they're like, like a big Rogan person or something like that, like, is there a hinge person of like, this could go either way? Like, you know, usually with celebrities and other pop culture figures, you're like, okay, I can get along with you if you like this person. Is there one like right down the middle that like,

well, that could either be I really like you or I really don't. Like, is there one celebrity like that? Oh, a celebrity? Well, like if they like that celebrity that it could go, you know, like, it could either be great for you or horrible for you. I like people who look like they don't know what they're doing on social media and they don't use

it. Like, I'm really into people when you look them up on social. I met somebody the other day. You got to meet my dad, man. Like, you would love him. I mean, everything that you're saying is, it sounds like Bill Bailey. This is amazing. Does he know how to use a jitterbug? That's all I care about. He said I love some big numbers on a phone. He set up my grandma so I know he knows how to use it. Yeah. Yeah, I like when you look somebody up on the internet and they just have that blank picture that's like a gray head. You know, the gray heads or the Twitter eggs like those.

That's when the winds are going to be a serial killer doc about that. Like they all, by the way, every one of the serial eggs. Like those are, that's, when's there gonna be a serial killer doc about that? Like they all, and by the way, every one of the serial killers from here on out, you will know like, well, we should have known. They had a gray head profile. I like that, but they're only on there because they signed up in the beginning and they never went on again.

That's what I think is hot because anybody with too much on there, I'm like gross, you know? Oh yeah, I mean like when I think about what I do online, I like I give myself, I give myself the ick. Like, it's completely well, like, I'm making Bravo memes in my 40s. Like, that's that never make very good ones. Oh, you can make very funny ones. When I was studying at Arizona State University, I didn't have this in store.

I did not think I would be doing this. Well, we're definitely in the same boat as far as you date, and you can judge people's social all you want, but they also get to look at yours. And they come to ours, and it's like, I cover Bravo every day! And like, fuck this. You know, who wants to date that? BLAIR LAUGHS

I'd say we really carved out quite a life for ourselves. Like, it's really totally vexed. We've really painted ourselves into a corner here. You got lucky that you have a very cute girlfriend. And she's beautiful. But every podcaster owes something to you guys. But then as you get further into it, you're like, what... they kind of...

What have I done? Like, they really tricked all of us. They tricked all of us. Like, this is insane. That's funny. And by the way, people listening, don't get upset. Ronnie knows that was a joke purely. Of course. And nobody else. I mean, my God. So then we talk about the relationship, which is gross. Okay, so then Harry and Serena.

This is cute, because I think that Harry and Serena aren't friends anymore, I think because of this whole Laura thing. Yeah. That's what it seems like. What do you know about that? Because I forgot to ask Serena. I had. Yeah. That's what it seems like. What do you know about that? Cause I forgot to ask Serena about it when I had the chance. That's what I was gonna ask if you asked her that because I think like Harry said that Serena unfollowed and potentially blocked him after the season. Yeah, she said something like that,

but she didn't say why. And we started talking about, I don't know, mental health or some shit. You know, that's where I got to learn to stop myself and just say, okay, mental health, cut short. We'll put mental, let's put mental health on pause while I get some tea and then we'll go back to the mental. Because then I forget, you know, my attention goes elsewhere.

Oh, but also, I'm so bad at the interviews in that case, in that sense, because I'm never, I'm always wanting to be nice enough where they enjoy themselves, where I'm like, I'm not going to get, I'm not looking for like the headline. I don't wanna be on realityt.com. I don't wanna be like, you know, it's like, oh, I got the thing that'll actually get me attention. Like, no, I just wanna have a conversation

and wherever it goes. And people are like, you forgot the important thing that people are actually talking about. I think it was something to do with the Lara stuff that they feel like Lara's being, you know, attacked or bullied or, you know, they have these two... Like, on the comments on the post, we posted a clip, and of course we posted the shadiest clip there was to post,

but we posted a clip and so the fighting on the clip is crazy, you know, it's like, you're bullying her, you're bullying Serena. And then Laura came on, she's like, no one understands how I've been treated this whole season and everything bad about Serena was cut, but I'm not going to be quiet anymore.'" And it's like, okay, well then say what happened. You know, but she doesn't. She just...

Wait, you had Laura on too? No, she's just in the comments. Like, she turned the comments off on her Instagram, but it's coming on our post to be like, "'This is all a lie. It's all bullying. If you want the truth, you'll get it. I'm like, well, when? When's the truth? Like, tell me the truth.

So... You have to wait for next season for the truth? And there's no below deck reunion, so come on. Yeah, so it seems like her Laura side is calling Serena the biggest bully in the world, and Serena's side is calling Laura the biggest bully in the world. And so it's all bullying accusations.

And I guess Harry feels that Serena is the bully, I'm guessing, from what I'm reading just from the world. And so it's all bullying accusations. And I guess Harry feels that Serena is the bully, I'm guessing from what I'm reading just from the comments. But Serena never said, Zorina. By the way, people say, why are you calling her Serena? Because I'm gay and I have a list. That's why. Okay. I love it. It's like you watch the show and it's like so low level stakes, even though this seems so intense for them. Like they feel like they're in Scandival right now, and we're like, well, the new season of Below Deck Air is next week. Like, we're already over. Like, we're off of it. Like, we're talking more about plates than we are any kind of actual storyline

that they have centered themselves around. So it's really weird. Like, but it's nice to see that they really do, like, they care. Their emotions are in it. Yeah, I mean, I guess. And I also like that we tied the season up with another disagreement about plates. This time there wasn't enough plates, but it all came back to plates at the end.

Which I'll give them credit for. So everybody goes dancing, they go to dinner, then they go dancing, and then it starts raining, and people are shit-faced, and they start sexy dancing. So Serena's like that girl who's in the sand on her knees, swinging around her hair while Lara looks on disgustedly. And then, Alicia's also shit-faced, so she starts sexy dancing, and she starts doing that,

like, white girl twerk thing, where she just starts rubbing her butt up and down. So she's getting on on Harry, and then Harry walks away, not thinking anything of it, and she's still just kind of, like, doing it? It was like kind of a twitch? The sad white girl twitch. Yes. Like, it's people pass her by, wonder if she's OK.

Like, oh my god. Just wasted alone. She's seizing. Yeah. Yeah, like phantom, phantom twerk. I don't know what was happening. She was really getting into that. I was like, I thought she thought she was doing the Lombada

or something. It was really, in her head, like that's it. I think in all of their heads, they are making like insanely intense television. And all we see is just like a little twerk. Like a little... Yeah. So, Harry goes back over to Laura,

and of course, Laura is like, oh my God, look at what Alicia is doing to him. And she's like, oh my God, is she twerking on Harry? So, Harry comes over to say hi, and Laura's like, Oh, my God, is she twerking on Harry? So Harry comes over to say hi and Laura's like, You must speak with Alicia right now. Right now. And so they do. And he's like, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean it like that. I'm drunk. I didn't actually, but still, if I was like, if I was a girl, there was a guy doing it, it wouldn't be the same, Harry. And so they had their first tiff.

And Harry hung in there with the apologizing. Because a lot of men I hear from women, they will not apologize, they will not admit fault. This guy, he was taking credit for anything wrong. He was like, I did the plates, I did this, it's all me, it's all me, I did it all. And she accepted the apology and he kept apologizing. He was like, it's not right. I'm filthy. I'm disgusting. He made it so that you don't even want to call him out because you don't want to have to sit there and listen to him apologize for two hours. You know, it's like, oh, my God, can we move on now? It's like, no, really, really. I'm sorry. And I think you're right. She saw it immediately. And she was like, no, I'm good. It's all good.

I get it. I get it. And then they get in the car and he's still apologizing. He's like Horrible, I can't believe it. I'm gonna cut my thingy off. It's just no good. By the time they get to the van he's like I thought it was gonna I thought it was gonna be an up all night conversation where we were gonna see like him Apologizing at 3 and 4 in the morning of like, I'll do anything for you. You're a model. I can't believe I'm dreaming a model. Meanwhile, Serena and Alicia are just making out like full on like for five minutes. It just gets going and going. And

everybody really questions that. Everybody's like, Oh my god, but like, there's no scene about that. It's like, oh my God, but like there's no scene about that. It's just like, yeah, cool. Yeah. So we get some hobby, hobby, Harry's sighing in the car, sobbing. We get some Harry sobbing in the car, et cetera. And let's, can we just finish this already? Okay. So Marina loves Nick, Nick loves Marina, but they're both single.

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or on Apple podcasts. And now it's time for the Serena and Laura ending. So they're in the cabin, Serena thinks everything's fine. So Laura's like, all right, let's talk, you know, so about this tension between us and Serena's like, all right, go ahead. So last night I was confused because, oh, we didn't mention at the dinner, Serena said, I'd like to make a cheers to Laura, who's been a great Chief Stew.

She had a lot to deal with. She did a great job at it. She handled herself really well this season, so cheers to her. And Laura got pissed off that she made this speech and said it's not real. What do you think of that? You think it was real? I mean, it was real enough, but like, I mean, leave it alone. At this point, it's such an obsession in her mind to find, like, anything that Serena does at this point is going to irk her, and she's going to find ways that it is, you know, like that it is a big, vast conspiracy that against her. So, I mean, it was real enough.

I didn't think it was like a complete joke. Yeah, I mean, if someone's making an effort to be nice, what's the problem? I mean, if she had said something like, oh, and to Laura, who's just worked so hard this entire season, or something like that, but she didn't. And she was doing it in front of the cap. I mean, I thought it was nice, but...

But also the beef was squashed. The way you want to bring back up the beef. And I just thought, like, did somebody encourage her to do this? Because I felt like it was so short-sighted and dumb, because at this point, like, don't you feel like you... This is a little unhinged at this point. Like, we've figured it out. It's done. Why are you wanting to...

Like, it almost felt like, are you wanting camera time? Like, what... Did this feel like a natural end to the storyline that you didn't feel like you got the day before? Yeah. It's like, girl, we know you didn't order enough plates to bring back more beef. So just end it now. So she confronts her in the cabin, and she's like, we're this tension between us.

You know, last night I was confused because you made a speech to me about how I'm great and all that and I handled it so well. And she was like, yeah, because you did. And she's like, no, but that's the opposite of what you were saying to me. You made me feel like I wasn't doing a good job and you put me in a very dark headspace. No one said you didn't do a good job.

She's never said that you didn't do a good job. She lied about you being late that one time. She did not treat you this whole season like you did a bad job. I can't. I can't sign on for that. I quit. I quit the show. Yeah. Uh-oh. You've upset Ron. Look what you did, Laura. You've upset Ron. Like that's not... No, I mean, I think nobody can... Like the just is like, it reeks of insecurity in such a weird way that I just don't know what the benefit of that conversation was. And it was confusing. I think it confused Serena.

I think it confused the audience. And I don't think that anything was gotten from it, except that Serena eventually says, well, I guess I don't wanna really be friends with you then, if that's how it's gonna be. I think she was trying a couple things. I think she was trying to get a scene out of Serena to make Serena look crazy. says, well, I guess I don't want to really be friends with you then, if that's how it's going to be. I think she was trying a couple things. I think she was trying to get a scene out of Serena to make Serena look crazy, because

Serena didn't react how she thought she was going to. Serena didn't fight, she didn't cry, she didn't do anything she thought she was going to do. She said, okay, well, I've tried apologizing and if you don't want to be my friend, I understand. And she's like, okay. So it was anticlimactic. And I think the second part is she's getting it on record on TV that Serena's put her into this very, very dark place with mental health and this and that

so she can villainize Serena. It's not cool, and I see her doing it in the public sphere too, so it's kind of nice to see this all backfiring on her. Because I thought, what could have happened in the season finale that set her off? And it's all in her head. It's all stuff that she did.

So... I mean, I don't really pay attention to below deck, like, kind of what's going on behind the scenes. Like, is she sitting there defending herself over tonight's episode? I haven't looked tonight because it literally just ended before we started talking. So I don't know about tonight, but she's been doing it for the whole season,

like, no one understands what Serena put me through, the dark place that she took me to have never been in such a dark, dark, dark place. So she's saying that all this stuff has been cut to make Serena look good. And I'm like, they didn't make Serena look good. They made Serena look nuts too. She would sneak into my bunk and put my hand in water so I would pee the bed.

Yeah. So I don't really know, but she dumped Serena basically and says, I can't be your friend anymore. You know? And so Serena's like, okay, well I've tried. And she's like, well, I've tried for approval all season, but fuck it. You know, I can avoid the cool girl clique. The talking lobster clique. BLAIR I love, though, nobody was raising their voices. Like, we didn't have a voice raised. It was very Downton Abbey almost. MARKUS Yeah.

I think she wanted it, but it didn't get there. So she didn't get it. So everybody goes and says bye to each other. Laura says bye to the captain. And he's very like, good job this season, you know, very prim and proper and then give Serena a nice big hug and sends her off. And that's pretty much it. She was like, I pulled out the short straw, I had weevils, a sous chef who wanted my job, a new sous chef with, you know, no

experience. And on top of that, just cut to Laura's face, please. It's just that burn, like... BOTH LAUGH But she's gonna keep on cooking and let her freak flag fly. And that's pretty much it. That was it. That was a... What a journey I've been through this last week, watching this entire season. You are the hardest working man in podcasting.

And you know what? If I ever ask you to do something and you don't watch it, just say no. Do you have any other openings? I would have put you on something else. No, Ronnie, it is a privilege to be here in any capacity. You know that. I love talking to you regardless of the podcast or not, but like, yeah. And also, I love watching Bravo.

So it was an excuse to actually watch a show that I usually... I watched all of Below Deck Sailing Yacht and then sometimes I just didn't pick it up. So I was so thrilled to watch it, but it is interesting what a low level season it was. And I still liked it. I was, I'm still impressed to how big the yacht was. I was like, this is huge. Like every... That yacht is huge. The yacht was huge. I'm not used to seeing

that big of a yacht. Uh, the bedrooms were bigger. I mean, it was, so it was great. It was just interesting that this was the season finale. Like, it was like, it's all leading up to this. Plates! -♪ PLEASE! -♪ GIGGLES again. Lack of silverware. Dorn, dorn, dorn.

But you just keep imagining. Like, that's what I kept doing. Like, when I would get sometimes checked out of episodes, I would imagine other Bravo characters in the yacht. Like, oh, my God, if Jax could be here, or if Kyle Cook could be here. Like, I just kept putting, like, if Heather Gay could be here and, like, trying to complain about things. Like, which, by the way, I think Salt Lake City,

aren't they doing a below deck episode this season on their next season of Salt Lake? They're doing, I think, below deck regular. Coming up, I think they're doing. I think below deck regular coming up. I think they're doing, I think the regular below deck is going to be Daisy as chief stew. And who else is back? What Gary's not coming back, right? Gary's done.

No, that's not sailing. This is going to be the regular. So they moved Daisy over to... No, no, that's not true. That's not true. Fraser is back for regular Below Deck. And then they got Daisy for another one. I guess, would that be sailing or is that the new Down Under?

I don't know. I get them all confused. See, I'm sure it's like 90 Day Fiance with the Below Deck universe where I'm like, oh, I know, well, it all, you know, there's a boat. But the preview for Below Deck next week, like the season preview, there would look like there's some like S&M and bondage and everybody's kissing everybody and there's bisexuals and heterosexuals and homosexuals.

Yeah, Frazer actually gets to make out with people this season, which is nice. I mean, he's done it before, but it looks like there's some actual by action on this one. I'm excited to see it. That's so weird. Superverted, though. We're gonna see full penetration

on the next season of Below Deck. Did I see Fraser enter a man last night? Like, this is really stepping, they're stepping it up. But yeah, I know Fraser's gonna come back with a lot of attitude because he's got high, like, he's got very strong highlights now. I just saw him on some commercial or something, and I was like, oh my God, those highlights are taking no prisoners this season. Do you think once they get like the third and fourth season,

they start thinking they're hot shit and they do something like kind of like drastic with their look a little bit. Like remember, like, this is a bad example. I always think about Vicki Gunvalson that one time she got the facelift and it didn't settle before shooting and she came in with that beach

and everybody was like, whoa, holy crap. So I didn't do anything, I didn't do anything. whoa! Holy crap! So I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything. What are you talking about? I didn't do anything. That's right. Can't move her neck. She's like, what?

And then the first episode of The Valley, Brittany was in a head bandage because they realized they were picked up. And they're like, oh, I got to get plastic surgery really quick. I love when they start filming before whatever they've done to prepare for the season is healed. Like that's... I feel for Brittany. You know, Brittany goes through a lot

on that show, on those shows, all of the shows. And she's such an asshole a lot of the time. But I do, at the end of the day, feel... You got nothing for nothing. ...feel for Brittany because, like that time, she got the waddle surgery. So she got like her waddle like lifted and then like put put behind her but then it also messed up part of her face. Like she couldn't move part of her face And people are like what the fuck is wrong with her face? She looks like trash. I was like this woman cannot win

Yeah, like some characters in reality TV are just damned if they do damned if they they don't. Like it does not matter what you do. And then usually what happens about eight or nine years in, if you're lucky enough or like unlucky enough to be on a show still, people will come around and then there'll be like this kind of underground following. You know, we saw that, I mean, I feel like Doty's like that. Doty is now considered like ethereal in a lot of ways.

And I'm like, well, I remember a time when people were like railing against Doty. And now she's considered like... She's like Paul Bunyan. Like, there's like a myth about Doty. Um, and like people are just like, she's an angel. She's an angel! Everything she says, she's angelic! Watching that transformation has been crazy. Like, watching that has been nuts.

Like, she had a really good first season on the show, I thought. I thought she did a good job of kind of balancing the apology for what, you know, like, re-entering. I thought she did a pretty nice job. This season, she's not really doing that much so far at all. And the audience loves that. Like, the audience will really... As long as there's other stuff going on the show,

you can really do nothing in the season, and the audience will love you. Doty literally was sitting, like she just says, yeah, I'm taking Xanax because I don't like people arguing. Like just really like a thrown away line. She's like, yeah, we don't really have to do that. I'm just trying to get my drink on right now. Like she reminds me of what I read

70s Los Angeles was like, like Joan Didion and all of these like really like Like vicious circle type, like... She just kind of reminds me from a different era where she was just like, remember when people could drink during pregnancy? Like, I want to go back to those times. Yeah, where are those days? Yeah, kind of the downer times before the Coke times, I think.

Because the newer generation of TV is all like, jacked out and everyone's like... And their fights are like, Coke rages. You know, Coke alcohol binge rages. Ow, what am I stuck on? Ow, I'm stuck on my own beard. I'm so sorry. And...

That's a plug. By the way, for anybody not watching this, Ronnie's beard is magnificent. I mean, like, what? Well, I mean, what do we call it? Like, stubble? Is that what it is? It's like a, I mean, it's really nice. I don't know. I don't know what I would call it? Like stubble? Is that what it is?

I mean, it's really nice. I don't know what I would call it. It's called laziness. I shave once every couple of weeks. But this week, I was like, I'm tired. Listen, Paige DeSorba wouldn't like you, because she said she doesn't go for a man with a beard in this week's episode.

But other than that, I say keep doing this. Paige DeSorba wouldn't like me anyway, OK? She wouldn't like me clean shaving, shaving. Wait, like me clean shaven. Wait, are you team? Wait, did you take a stand in the great battle of the decade? Team Craig or Team Paige? Oh, Team Paige. Team Paige obviously, right? Craig sucks.

Yeah. Okay. I just didn't know where you stood. I didn't know. Yeah. So you are too? You're Team Paige too? Oh yeah, of course.

I don't dislike Craig, but obviously Team Paige. I love Craig for Southern Charm, but he's been compulsively lying and shit for years. I could never understand what she was doing with Craig. I am get... I do get frustrated with Bravo at the reunions of, like, yeah, we now have it well documented about Craig lying in so many situations. And they kind of did it on Watch What Happens Live

when he was on, but they really do need to do a clip package at a reunion where they hold Craig's eyeballs open and make him watch every lie. And like, just be like, it's okay, man. Like we all do it. It's okay. Like just say why. I know it's a deep insecurity.

I know you're probably not a bad person deep down. Like just admit it. Just admit it. But he still lies though. Like this last time they showed him a clip of him lying saying he never lied again and they're openly laughing at him on Watch What Happens. He's like, well, that's not exactly what was said, you know, and it's just how you guys took it at the moment.

I loved the reveal on Summerhouse when we finally learned the truth because, you know, Craig got to tell his side so much earlier than Summerhouse ended. So by the time Summerhouse came, he told everybody about this ring for Paige and then she dumped me and she knew I had this ring and page had his number immediately. Like this is exactly why because he didn't buy the ring. By the way, we talked about Angeline earlier. That's what Craig in 15 years, you'll pay him $150 to drive around in his car with him in a lie to you for 150 bucks. Yeah, just tell me lies.

Just tell me lies. One thing I forgot to bring up on crappy hour, so I'm glad I have you here, is this Craig thing. So in the preview for Summer House, we saw Paige saying, and I found out he was texting bitches. What do you think? Yeah, what was that about? Have you heard anything about that?

So she expanded on that a little bit, just saying that she saw him like put like heart emojis on like two DMs. And she said, listen, it could, it couldn't be anything, but he like, he was weird about it. And he did do that, like, like, not just like hearting a thing, you know, you do on Instagram, but like, heart emojis. And she just said it was just weird behavior. And it was weird behavior. And he was, he acted weird about it. But she said, you know, there was no proof. I am wondering why they cut that out, but they used it in the mid-season trailer.

And I just thought maybe it wasn't the story that they want. I think they wanted to tell the story of three girls, like, not real, you know, not knowing that they would be at this place, but loving their life. Because like, you guys probably already talked about this too. It's like, they're're telling us this is a spinoff period. So I don't think they wanted that little clip in there because we would just be running with that instead of what the narrative has been this week of we need to see this spinoff.

These girls are in a spinoff and it's about womanhood, you know? Yeah, they're really selling that hard now. They're going around all their interviews like Amanda's like, well, you know, people have to graduate from the show. So I'm guessing that's, I mean, obviously that's what they're trying to do, right? They're going to put out a season of them in the city. I 100% and I think it'll be great. I would love them to fill in the conversation where Kyle begs Amanda to be able to keep

going to the summer house. Like I want to be Van Wilder like there's no graduation here I will be a seventh year senior like I will chain myself to this summer out like that Dude will beg to stay at that summer house from Amanda Goes out and parties all night. I don't I don't think it matters if he's in New York He's still gonna be coming at home at four in the morning if he's in New York, he's still gonna be coming home at four in the morning like, hey, man, man, man, Kyle, why are you waking me up? I would be scared.

Wouldn't you be scared for a season of Summer House with Kyle there by himself? Like a man who's like not there, like a- The Matthew McConaughey of the house. And he's still tiptoeing into his bedroom, even though nobody's there. He's like, a man's not even there, dude. I hope this city thing happens. I really want to see it. I think

it's gonna be so good. Why not? And I'll bring back. I mean, keep Paige into the full I mean, do you think who brings who's being what page will do it? It'll definitely be Paige, Amanda and Kyle and Lindsey and Lindsay, and who else was there? For Summer House or the spin-off? The spin-off. See, I don't think the spin-off is gonna include the guys. I think it's gonna be girl-centric.

I thought, so you'll know that Kyle obviously exists, but I thought from what I was hearing that it was gonna be the girls. It was like a girl-centric show in the city. Oh, so kind of their new New York. What they were trying to do with New York earlier, which is just like all influencers living in New York and all that.

Oh, did you see Next Gen NYC yet? No, I haven't watched it yet. I have it, but I haven't watched it yet. I don't wanna remember new names. (*JEREMY LAUGHS*) I'm not gonna remember new names for a while. I think it looks so good new names for a while. I think it looks so good.

The trailer looks good. Yeah. Like I'll try anything. It's just hard to get me to initially sit down to watch because I have a tendency of like, I don't want new things in my life. Like it's hard to accept a new show. It's hard to like accept new characters. And you know, like it's, it's not as intense because we already know Brooks Marx and we

already know, uh, candy's daughter and, because we already know Brooks Marx and we already know Candy's daughter and... But not like this. I mean, it's gonna be... Brooks looks hilarious on the show. I think he's gonna be really funny. Riley, I think, doesn't ever say anything. They never showed Riley saying anything. No, Riley was DJing. Yeah. And she threw her phone in the water on accident.

Um, so we saw that. And it looks like Gia and it looks like the new people that they're bringing in are pretty good. They look pretty dramatic. It's interesting in the previous, I don't see Gia as much as I do like Brooks and the others. Yeah, I think those are just kind of, they bring in the, the headliners, you know, to sell the show, but it looks like the other people are going to be taking over Like, they've got that really beautiful trans model. That girl that has like a million followers?

Yeah, is that her? I don't know. I didn't... You said trans model. I didn't even know there was a trans model on the show. That's awesome. Yeah, they've got like a beautiful trans model. She's like the really gorgeous, glamorous model. I didn't realize she was trans. I didn't realize she was trans. That's awesome.

Yeah, and then, um, they've got, like... Well, they're all young. I was gonna say, a young guy. but one of the young guys in it looks like a total douchebag. I think it's gonna be really good. So I hope it's like a blend of like NYC prep and Roni, you know? Yeah, you know, I never watched NYC prep. Oh, Ron. That's embarrassing. I've never confessed that before.

I guess I should watch that. You know, watch but like, like, save that for you. Don't even talk about it on Crappins ever. Just watch it for your own enjoyment and like have that be something that you keep for yourself. Because to me, it's a very special show that like don't, just keep a show for you. And I think on YC Prep would be great

where you could have that, enjoy it, you know, and don't do anything around it. Just enjoy it. Okay, perfect. I will. I'll take that advice. I'll save that till one day when I'm like in a hospital and I think all is lost. I'll be like, I've saved. I've saved this little nugget. Yeah. Roddy's in a hospital and I bring him NYC prep, you know. Roddy, if you can hear me, come out. We all miss you. I brought you the first season of NYC prep. Come towards the beta max. Come towards the beta max.

Ryan, thank you for being here. I love talking to you and love spending time with you. Everybody go catch up with Ryan's podcast. It's So Bad It's Good with Ryan Bailey. I'm sure you're all subscribed anyway. Go listen to him over on Jeff Lewis Live. Yeah, I'll be on. How often to him over on Jeff Lewis Live. Like, how often are you over there?

You're over there like what, three times a week? No, just once a week right now. And I love being there. And listeners, guys, thank you for listening. I hope this was okay. Be nice. Don't like, you know, just be cool. I was looking forward to this all week.

So I hope I did okay for you. No, Ryan, I love talking to you. You've been such a good friend to this show and to us personally for so long. And it's so good to have you here and talk to you. It's the only time I ever see any friends here. Like podcast friends is when one of us is missing. We got to get our Vespa's out and get on the PCH and just ride. Like, easy riders.

I still got my other one if you want to ride it. If you want to learn how to ride it, I've still got my old one over here. Wouldn't that be a... wouldn't that really trip out like a very small amount of the population of Los Angeles of like, did I just see Ronnie Carom, that weird guy Ryan? We'll get Julie Goldman. She's got one. Oh my God. We'll get Laura, we'll get Danny. What if we had a motorcycle crew, like a real, like a tough gang and there's like initiations. Like Vespas. Like it has to be like a wussy motorcycle crew.

Oh yeah. Like I like Tom, like the Larry Crown mobile, the Tom Hanks movie that really got me into Vespas. I can put Ben in a little sidecar because I know he'll never do the Vespa thing, but I'll put Ben in the sidecar, like Tom Tom. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like the Schwartz and Sandy sidecar isn't being used. Like could you imagine if you did the Vespa version of the

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