Watch What Crappens - #2919 RHOC S19E01 Part 1: There’s The Golden Door, Shannon Beador! With Amy Phillips

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

This is part one of a two-part recapReal Housewives of Orange County is back, and it’s exploding out of the gates. Most of the cast has a beef with Katie, who, let’s be honest, has been messy in the off-season. Meanwhile, Shannon still has issues with Tamra, Heather has a decrepit mansion, and Ryan wants a bikini wedding. It’s already so chaotic, and Gretchen hasn’t even made her big comeback yet!  Guest Amy Phillips (Drama Darling podcast) joins Ben to break down the big premiere.Get bonus episodes, video, and Love Island content at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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My name is TJ Raphael. I'm the host of Liberty Lost, a new podcast about who gets to be a mother and the control of young women hidden behind the veil of faith. Binge all episodes of Liberty Lost ad free right now on Wondery Plus. Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today in the place of Ronnie Karam who when we last

checked he was rolling around the quiet woman throwing plates at people, getting kicked out is very unfortunate. It's the one and only Amy Phillips of Drama Darling. Hi, Amy. How are you? So good to see you. Oh my gosh. It's so great to see you. I'm so excited to be here. Hello to all of your amazing listeners and to my amazing darling listeners who I know are listening as well. Yes, we love the darling listeners. We love all the Darlings. And by the way, before we even get one inch into this recap, you all must subscribe to Drama Darling

because Amy Phillips is hilarious and wonderful. And I mean, I really couldn't think of no better person outside of Ronnie Karam to come recap the season premiere of Orange County, no less. I am humbled beyond belief. Humbled, if you will. I'm about to buy a house in Beverly Hills filled with asbestos. That's how humble I feel.

I'm going to poison myself. I'm just so excited to be here. Thank you for having me. Cheers to our orange ladies. This is so exciting. Cheers. Cheers to them and their new faces. They're, you know, like Dr. DeBrow has been busy. I mean, wonderful. Even put Heather in red. I couldn't believe it.

I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't believe it. I felt like the DeBrow's Los Angeles property felt like a little bit of like some of those face lifts I saw this this week. I just was kind of like there was some renovation, but is it maybe all done? I'm not sure. Right. Are we going to still pull that side up or Heather's like, yes, we need to do more work at least floors. I was like, tear this thing down. What are you doing? I know. Please tear it down. We will not adjudicate that. Um, I am so happy to have, um, Orange County back. I love Orange County. I feel like Orange County has been on such a role for the past three or four years. It's been so good, but also, you know, these are some of my favorite people to make fun of. And, uh, it's a real

doozy right out the gates this season. I mean, everyone is, everyone's like super charged. It feels like we're already like halfway through the season. And it was just like the, it was only the premiere is why you use the word doozy. And you're right. It was, it just came out of those gates, like, you know, the Kentucky Derby and these ladies are running. It's going to be a super size. So we better get it rolling ladies. By the way, fun fact, Kentucky doozy is the name of Gina's stylist. I'm pretty convinced. Every new season, every new season, she starts up with a new look that's crazy.

And I was like, what is happening with Gina? Real estate look, I gotta look good for the real estate. She's also becoming much more cat skills than ever before. Well, I think you guys should talk talk talk for once or twice You gotta get to the bottom of it Her voice is like a roller coaster. You don't know it goes up. You're not sure when it's coming down It's like a demon drop a shout out to any of the Cedar Point Midwest people

who know what that is. It's just basically a ride that drops. It just drops, you know? Drops like a Gershartenheide. I still know how to say her last name. Gershartenheide, it sounds like Gevurtzerminer. It sounds like one of those German sweet wines that you don't wanna fuck with.

Where you're like, oh my god, if I drink this. She's got a sweet wine last name that you don't wanna fuck with. I'm Gina Krher Schneider. I don't know how to say it, Krerkenider? I'm not gonna even tell you because I like how you mess it up. I like messing it up.

Okay, this is gonna be a five hour recap. I can already tell. I know we haven't even started. OK, I'm going to stop. Super sized episode. Let's see anything to promote at the top. Well, obviously for us, there's Patreon, our crap is on demand where you can watch, not just listen. We're doing Love Island coverage.

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union with Love Island with Hunter Harris. So it's been great. And Ronnie will be back after a week. He's off. He's getting so much deserved time off. I took my time off in May because I went on this trip to Norway, which is when you were last here, Amy.

You filled in for me. So you know now- I loved your pictures and updates. That looked amazing. Thank you. It was a great time. It was like the, I was like, I know there's a Gina Keherchenheider joke

in there somewhere. But I almost said it was a Gina Keherchenheider joke in there somewhere. I almost said it was the Gina Keherchenheider of trips. And I was like, wait, why would I ever say that? Why would I ever say that about Norway? It was great. So now, you know, I took some time off, so now Ronnie gets some time off. And we are so glad that you're here.

Can you tell people by the way, where they can follow you on social media before we dive into this recap? At meet Amy Phillips, at meet Amy Phillips. That's a lot, let's go. I love this Gina, does Gina think because it sounds like, she's, it sounds like she's just saying like,

about to say everything must go. We've got carpets, we've got carpets and rugs and sofas, everything must go, prices've got carpets, we've got carpets and rugs and sofas. Everything must go. Prices are lower than ever before. Yes, yes. She sort of has that vibe. She does. Okay, well now it's time.

It's time I am now redirecting my attention to the notes to talk about this episode. Real Housewives of Orange County, season 19. This is crazy. This show, like, this show could be in college at this point. Not that it ever would be. It's in France and it's going to raves,

you know what I mean? This show is actually almost eligible to be on Next Gen New York City. So this episode is called Revolving Door of Lies. Ooh. Which is funny because Terry and I are going to add a revolving door to the front of our house. And it has asbestos in it,

but it's protected from other asbestos getting in it. Okay. If you ever come for me and my asbestos again, it will cost you a lot. That is not a threat. That is a promise. My favorite monologue of the past five or 10 years has to be Heather Dubrow saying that to Shannon

at the end of an episode while wearing like a little ribbon in her hair. That was just one of my favorite moments. Good selection, Ben. Really good choice on a favorite monologue. I love that. She had the dramatic pauses. You're right.

Yeah. Shannon let it go. Shannon just sat in it and let it roll over her. Yeah. There really is some value in casting real housewives who were in theater club because when they have their big moment, they really know how to take it.

Like, they've practiced it in the mirror. They've maybe sang Les Mis right beforehand. They're like in the mood, and they're gonna like, because she did it to Taylor Armstrong with the IMDB fight. Like she does it once a year, Heather finds someone, she puckers up that mouth, and then she just rails into them. Wow, you're right.

I never even clocked that. I wonder who it will be this year. I'm gonna have to say, I think she's gonna take another go at Katie. Yeah. Based on the way that they're all going for Katie this episode, you know? Yeah.

So we begin and we see like a little teaser of what's to come, which is basically all of them taking a polygraph, which is exciting. It is funny. Were they, were they, was the cash trips in like North Korea or something with, were they, were they like, you know, like there's like that, there's like a room on the border there, like were they, were they in that border room and they're like, why are you here? Why are you in this country at the moment? Yeah.

The producers are like, so ladies, this year, we're going to send you to a questionable area. Just go with it. Well, if I can do some healing, I'll be for it. So we see Shannon, Shannon's in a new house and she's got, and she's getting some treats for Archie. I love that new house. Thank God she's out of that old one.

I couldn't, couldn't, couldn't wrap my head around that. I was getting claustrophobia. Yeah. I, you know what's so funny? I have a mental block on what her old house looked like. It was like the post John Jansen house or was it the, it was during the John Jansen. It was like nautical nautical, right? It was like a fridge area.

Yeah. It was just odd. Staircase right in the middle of everything. Like staircase, kitchen table, you know, it was just a lot of. Yeah, no need to, it was time for a new house. So we see like this split screen of like her and Tamara and they're both like, like Shannon's offering Archie something to eat, but then Tamara is offering Eddie something to eat. Oh, you shady, shady, shady producers, editors. It speaks to the duality of their lives. Like, gosh, these women are fighting,

but like they are dealing with the same struggles every day. How to feed the men in their lives. Yeah, how to feed the furry animals in their lives, you know? Maybe Tamara will get another man just to help keep Eddie more youthful, just like Shannon got another dog. Yes. Just that way they can keep company.

He doesn't get things, he needs the friends That he doesn't get set into friends. He doesn't get into my business. It's disgusting. Oh wait, you know what's funny? I'm actually, I take it all back. I'm looking at the notes. I misread it. Tamara is also feeding a dog.

She's not feeding me. Shut up. She's feeding her dog named Rugby. Wow. I like your edited version better. We'll keep it at feeding Eddie. I could see Tamara offering to feed Eddie and him being like, no, thanks. No.

He's full of charisma. Yeah. At all times. I can't get enough of it. Yeah. He's insatiable. So then we go over to Gina and she's listing something in Mission Viejo and she's with Travis and she's like, okay, I want you to be in the video a little bit.

Okay, can you get in the video Travis? Because nothing's gonna sell a house like Travis, right? Talk about charisma. I mean, the secret, Barbara Corcoran built her empire on Travis cameos. He sure did. She sure did. Shout out Barbara. Shout out to Barbara Corcoran. So she's like, yeah, okay, come over here. You know, because like, can you do these moves? Can you walk around the kitchen island? Because this is

an important move. Okay, look at me. Look as I walk around the kitchen island. And she does this move where she, she sort of like glides her hand across the kitchen island as she, as she sort of circles around it. Did that make it, would that, would that move the needle for you? You think? Absolutely. I mean, I love, you know, taking my finger and just gliding it across a nice piece of marble and hearing someone's voice be like, this marble is from one piece in the quarry. This is 100% authentic Italian Carrera marble. And you could have it for the low, low price of $960,000. Starting lovers now.

Click the link in bio. I also like that she's both sounds like she's a salesperson, like advertising a sale, but also perhaps a ghost too. Like, be careful, be careful of the kitchen island. It has memories, whoa. Could you imagine if you got haunted by her? Oh, it'd be kind of a delight, because it would not be scary at all.

You know, you'd just be like, just give me a cup of coffee while you're moving around my kitchen translucent. Like. It would just be a ghost that burdens you with too many of its emotional issues. Like, I feel bad. I was like talking to Abraham Lincoln, and then he like went off to talk to George Washington,

and I was like, what, I'm like not good enough for you anymore. And then it turns out that he was like talking to all the bloggers about me, and I was like, I thought we were friends. I have lost all trust in Abraham Lincoln. And you're like, oh my god. Can I just have my coffee? Charlotte Bronce is so mad at her sisters And they have a lot of armpit baggage

Get out of my house Stop coming to my house to vent about your issues with other ghosts And why are you with such famous ghosts anyway? How did you get this access? Stop coming to my house to vent about your issues with other ghosts. And why are you with such famous ghosts anyway? How did you get this access? How did you? VIP. Whoever is putting her back on the show

season after season is giving her access to Charlotte Bronte. It's just not right. It's not. I'm happy about her being a real estate agent though. I love it. It is very fun. Like I really, I want to see her being a real estate agent though. I love it. It is very fun. Like I really, I want to see her on one of these like real estate shows,

one of these high powered real estate shows like selling OC or something where they're like, I'm a boss bitch, boss bitch. I'm selling real estate, real estate cause I'm closing pre certified. You know, I found a good one bedroom condo that I think would be very good fit for. They have to slow down the music.

I thought the Curb Your Enthusiasm music would play. Like, Yeah, you're right. It's not a sub zero fridge, but it's a brand called Zero Fridge, which I forgot to tell you there's no fridge here. I guess that's why that's called the Zero Fridge. You got to get your own fridge. Yeah.

Which is good because I'm also moonlighting at Best Buy. Coming now. Fridges are on sale for the next 12 hours. July 4th sale, laughing till the 11th. Ha ha ha ha. So, um. Really drilled down on Gina. This is what I do.

I feel bad. Are you a Gina fan by the way? Because I always go hard on Gina. Oh no, I love Gina, but I love going hard on her. Like it's out of love, yeah, absolutely. Like my arc with Gina is at the beginning of the season, she always drives me absolutely nuts. And then midway through I say, you know what?

I kind of like her, I feel bad. I feel bad, that's what she always does. Every single episode, I feel bad. And then like by the end of the season, I'm like fucking Gina. So that's my standard path with her. It's your arc. Mm-hmm.

So then Emily is skating with her family and Keller, her son smacks her, oh no, Shane smacks her on the butt. So they're up to the same hijinks as usual. They're always a barrel of laughs that family. Those little love bundles. Shane, wow. Talk about a man who could sell a house or two, that guy.

Did you ever think he was funny or no? No, no. Did you think he was funny? Yeah, there have been times where I found him, like when he first joined, when they first joined, I understood where he was going with his humor. It seemed pretty harsh, but I was like, he's got a dry sense of humor, just lay off.

And it just seemed awkward and a weird edit. So I appreciate that he has a dry sense of humor. I'm not saying it's, you know, he nails it every time, but I really, I haven't had a problem with him. I think he's fine. Yeah, like shout out to all our dry kings out there, you know? And Queens!

Holler menopause! Um, wasn't it, didn't Kelly Dodd have a moment once where she said something like, yeah, you're funny. We're like funny looking. Did she say that? Yeah, that sounds about right. Was that towards Shane or is that just towards someone else? No, I think it was exactly. Did I say that? Yeah, that sounds about right. Was that towards Shane or is that just towards someone else? No, I think it was exactly. That phrase came right roaring into my head just now. Funny, more like funny looking.

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She's like, oh yes, I can definitely see plenty of abs there, Terry. That was acting, Syracuse School of Dramatic Arts. Thank you very much. There's applause in the back. She has an applause machine going. She's like, and now I will submit my tape once again for Fantine on Broadway. Send.

That's exactly how she sends her emails. You know that. Send. Every time she hears the airplane noise, she's like, Terry, was that a private jet? No, okay, nevermind. Terry, our jet's leaving without us. Oh, it's just me sending again. Right kids, you just send it?

Are we sending it? Sorry, my electronic mail just departed. Wheels up, Terry. Wheels. Emails up. Emails are up and out. Have you heard about the World Wide Web? Turns out we have access to it. So let's get on it, Terry. Wheels up on the web.

Wheels up also. I heard there's colors. Have you seen these colors? I'm gonna wear red now. It's another color other than black Now that I live in Los Angeles, I'm going to experiment with the Pantone's over here red. What a revelation I was talking to my very dear friend Dinaoff, who said that if you want to get ahead in this business, you have to wear red. She said it's a power color.

You can send 140 emails in 30 seconds. So then I gave her the three quarters she needed for her parking meter and we hugged and said goodbye. We didn't make sense because she was paying for parking but also leaving at the same time. This is why she's not farther ahead. I'm sorry, further ahead. Go tell that to Wendy Malik. Oh my God, that's hilarious. So they're basically talking about, Terry's talking about how he has abs and Heather's like, well, I would do you. He goes, oh yeah, tonight, hopefully, as long as there's reverse cowgirl. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I'm laughing because I know exactly what that is. It's a, it's a young adult novel of course. Reverse cowgirl, correct.

I know exactly what that is. Poor Terry, he doesn't know. I love when Terry and Heather do their at home scenes where they try to seem like just this happy, fun, relatable couple. Right, that have sex and. Right, and they like laugh really hard at each other's jokes on camera.

Right. That's always a thrill for me. It is, because after cut, it's like no eye contact. Well, wasn't there a scene last year when I think like she was getting like a testing done, testing done like about like a mammogram or whatever, and she was like, okay, Terry, you't there a scene last year when I think like she was getting like a testing done testing done like about like a mammogram or whatever. And she was like, Okay, Terry, you stand there, you're supposed to walk in, I'm going to go in in the hospital again, then you walk in.

No, you didn't walk in correctly. Okay, from the top. And they just kept it all in there. Remember, they like, it was something like she had like, she was like mad at him for like not doing the scene properly. Oh, I do remember her being Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do remember. I do remember her being mad at him for something that was like, they broke the fourth wall a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. It was great. Thank God.

They should do that more often with them. I know that's what I would love. I'm like kind of obsessed with them. So then we go to Shannon and she's picking up Katie, um, to go somewhere. And because that's what you do in Orange County. Yeah, yeah. You go someplace. Orange theory, whatever, anywhere. Any place that specifically if it has orange in the brand,

it's just a value, it's a value add. Right. So, so it's Shannon picks up Katie, she's like, oh my gosh, you're so summery. Which I feel like was her way of being like, well, well you did outshine me with your outfit today. Thanks a lot, bitch. My color is summer. I can't believe that you came up summery. I thought we were friends. So nice to you. I did tell the producer that today my theme was going to be summer and

I thought that you'd be autumn and we would be like, Oh my goodness, we are part of a calendar, but I guess you've chosen to be summer, which is fine I'm totally happy with that. But you know, I didn't know like to be summary and that's fine. It's fine I'm just been on the show for 10 years, but that's okay. You can be summary if you want Hold on I have to I have to hang up with this blogger. I mean, my friend. My friend blogger. So Shannon's like, oh, how are you?

Good to see you. Remind me your name again. And she's like, oh yes. Shannon has no idea who Katie is. I'm convinced that a whole season went by, she still has no idea who Katie is. Yeah, that's why they became close, because Shannon got reintroduced to her

after they were leaving the reunion. And so Katie's like, by the way, I'm Katie. And Shannon's like, oh, nice to meet you. Do you live in Orange County? And then they just struck up a friendship after that. Let me tell you about Tamra Judge. So then Katie's like, yeah, I just got back from Arizona. Matt was hosting for the golf channel again.

And it's like this crazy party. Oh, I know, I know. I know a lot of people who go every year. In fact, I was gonna tell you about how I heard there was a crazy party in Arizona, but that's okay. You can just steal the summary thing and the Arizona crazy party. That's fine. I'm fine. I'll just check it off my list. No, I'll get white out. I'll just white out like it never

happened. Like I never took pen to paper and even wrote it down. Fine. Do you mind holding the wheel through this intersection while I just white this out? Thank you so much. I have to shake this white out. My parents are in town and my dad is always asking for things, like the most random things. He's like, do you have an old credit card? Because he likes to scrape things off of the counter with an old credit card. Do you have an old rag?

Do you have an old toothbrush? Do you have a white out? I mean, thank God I know him well enough. I had all those things ready to go yesterday. All the trinkets. He's shaking it with the little marble in there. All I hear is just shake, shake, shake, shake. I'm like, how many times do you think you can fucking shake that white out? And he's like, I'm going to shake it. I'm like, I'm going to shake it. I'm like, I'm going to shake it. I'm like, I I know him well enough. I had all those things ready to go. Yesterday he's shaking it like with a little marble in there.

All I hear is just shake, shake, shake, shake. I'm like, how many times do you think fucking shake that white out? Anyway. I can't think of the last time I had to use white out. I guess because I just feel like I don't write stuff on with pens so much anymore. Why would you need it?

He's writing a check and he messed up. You know what I mean? Yeah. Mistakes happen. Sometimes you just need to wipe. And it would be, by the way, it would be Shannon. It would be Shannon Bedor, who would come up with a list of the things

she wants to talk about in the scene and would type it out. And have the little printout hanging from a mirror, like, oh, well, Katie talks about that. So can you just wipe that out? Hanging like a parking tag. Hey, wait a second. Oh no, it tripped on me. Okay.

This is toxic, you know. I tried to find some at Whole Foods, they just gave me mayonnaise. Which I accepted, but it was not the same. I had to hang it, because I'm trying to make it off gas. It's off gassing. I had to off it because I'm trying to make it off gas. It's off gassing. I had to off gas my whiteout.

Remember that. Hi, I once off gassed it in the room in a closed space. And let me tell you something. I was seeing lots of interesting visions. Don't ask us near your nose. So that's why she doesn't remember me from last season. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah.

So, um, so Shan, so Katie's talking about this, this, uh, party, which I think if I, I, speaking of Kelly Dodd, I remember she talked about this. There's a big golf party that happens in Phoenix. It's a golf tournament that's hosted by the Phoenix sanitation department or garbage. It's like the garbage international. It's literally called something but something to garbage. And people go out to this golf course.

All the real housewives are invited. It's called the Vicky Gunvalson 18 hole extravaganza and hosted by the greater garbage services of Phoenix. So, um, uh, so Katie is saying it was like, it was a sea of penis. Oh, oh, oh yes. Well, you know, I did my manifestation for 2025 and men are not on my list because I'm going to have fun. Fun. Shannon is here. Wow. A lot of lanes on this highway. No, Shannon, you're just holding that. Wide out a little too close.

Oh, I wondered why things were starting to widen. I've never seen the, I thought they had built in those new dynamic roads that adjust the lanes as you, as you drive. No. I was manifesting that for 2025. Cause driving in Orange County and beyond is, is very challenging. It's about time they introduced road lanes that accommodated your needs.

You know, if I look back to where I was a year ago, I am a completely different person. I don't even think about John Jansen at all. I mean, I did settle the lawsuit because it was more important for me not to have ties to him anymore. So we settled for $60,000. So enjoy that wedding I'm paying for. That was wild. That was wild. Yes. I was like, good for you. But you know,

John really did get a nice chunk from her son of a bitch. Yeah, a very nice chunk. I don't think he deserved a single dime. I'm gonna say that right now. I'm gonna agree. Not even a penny, nothing. But he got it and she had to move on. And the good news is she 100% is not even thinking about John Jansen whatsoever.

Oh, there's his house. You know, it's so funny, John Jansen. Funny story, one time John Jansen had to buy a tennis racket off of eBay and he met the person right there. That's so random. Oh, and look over there. There's somebody's towing their boat. They must be going boating. I grew up on boats and John Jansen loved boats. And we would fight, we would just fight the Dickens about how to steer the boat and how to park the boat and dock it. And I was always right.

You know what's great about the ocean? It's kind of like a built-in dynamically and if you think about it, so I mean, I don't know why we're all just not boating like Johnansen. Yeah, why don't we just fill the streets with water? So so anyway, Katie Katie it is right. Yes, I invited I Invited everyone to the Golden Corral, but unfortunately, something got mixed up and we were going to some place called the Golden Door instead, which is nice.

I hope they have a nice selection of food. The Golden Corral cost $12,000 for 10 days. I was wondering, when they told me that it cost $12,000 to go to the Golden Corral, I thought, well, certainly someone has a groupon I you know I understand that there's inflation, but this is a bit excessive I Mean is your buffet really that that that great. I mean do they have dog treats on it? It seems a bit rich for me for my blood maybe Heather to bro would like it

I'm not gonna pay $12,000 for a reasonable buffet. Reasonable. So she's invited everyone to this place called the Golden Door. Have you ever heard of the Golden Door before? I've never heard of it. No, I- It sounds like it's a place.

Was confused because I thought it was Mira, what is it called? Mirabelle or Miramax or Mira- Miraval. Miraval. It's not like they were talking about that. We thought that we were gonna go to the Miramax revival. They're like, you know what?

It's time. Let's bring this brand back. Miramax. We're going to a film festival. Mirror, mirror on the wall. Who's the Miramax of them all? It's me. She's doing into her rear view mirror. Shannon, you have to lay off the white out.

We have to get, I don't know where we're going, but we have to get there in one piece, please. Oh, I thought I was in a castle. So they're gonna go to this place and she's really excited. It's like a place for healing, et cetera. And, um, you know, she's going to bring all her friends to it. So then they arrive at this car dealership to look at, um, cars for Katie. And so, um,

they, they get there and, um, Katie's like looking there. It's like, it's immaterial that they're looking for cars because they do some talk about it, but really they're there just to gossip some more now that they're looking for cars because they do some talk about it, but really they're there just to gossip some more now that they've arrived. And also for Shannon to get some air in her tires. That killed me. I love that line when she was like, excuse me, can somebody please give me some air in my tires?

I love when she gets all quiet. Just give me some air in my tire. Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch trail mix also, not for the tires, just I was, I'm just a bit pickish at the moment. Because, because I found out that the golden door is not the golden crown. I was really saving up my appetite, my appetite. I guess now that we're at, now that you have sourced some trail mix, you don't have to have any Casamigos, do you? Sourced Casamigos. You have Casamigos, do you do? Okay, I'll have some enchiladas too. Like Shannon, you're turning this into a restaurant.

You're escalating this. Do you have a Mexican band that can come out? I am famished. I'm famished, both for food and for entertainment. Oh my goodness. So then, so she's, Katie's telling us that like, you know, Shannon and I had a blast after our reunion. This was me after the reunion talking with Shannon.

Ha ha ha ha ha. God, what a fun time. Anyway, Shannon and I got a little closer and I felt like Shannon was one of the only ones to stick up for me. And then I felt like it was real turning point for us and our friendship. And I think this is where, is this where we saw the flashback of Shannon sticking up for Katie when you had Emily being like, well, why'd you lose custody? You lost custody, that was ridiculous. We saw you lost custody.

And then Shannon goes, there's a lot of investigation happening. I was like, really? Was that the best I could show Shannon standing up for Katie? Right. She was just saying something. It was a statement. It wasn't even anything other than just an observation.

Katie's like, fine, I'll take it. I'm dying up here. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for that. Yes. So Shannon's like, so by the way, I was with Emily yesterday, which wasn't fun for either of us, but at this point I'm still fighting with Tamera and Heather DeBrow lives some place where she's wearing red.

So I'm left with very few options to shoot with. But I was with Emily and uh you know there are certain things like you know you just you don't go there you don't you don't go there when once your kids are brought up with your daughter you just you just don't do that at all you do not bring the kids into it hold on I have to shoot a scene with my three daughters one second. Stella are you okay? Are you doing drugs? Drugs kill you. Drugs kill you. Okay, now, excuse me. I'm going to go back to this white out here. A lot of things to erase off the list. Katie is just chatterbox. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Anyway, yes.

1-800-CARS for Katie. 1-800-CARS for Katie. Ma'am, can you please step outside? Oh, she's crawling on the, she's crawling on the seven series. So the issue here is it's a throwback to last season when there was the whole hubbub, which I totally forgot about, where Katie's daughter was babysitting for Emily's children and Katie's daughter said that Emily's children said that their mom hates Heather DeBrow, right? And then Callie mentioned it

and of course said it in front of Tamra's, then Tamra brings it up to Emily. And Emily's like, why is your daughter gossiping about my children, yada, yada, yada? So this is like, we're still, we're having lingering, not only lingering effects from this storyline, it has actually ballooned into its whole new inciting event for the season.

And it's gonna get dark. Yeah, it is. It's gonna get wild. Well, not that dark. I mean, I don't know. I think it's also kind of silly, but you know. What did you- Did you have a problem with, oh.

No, I was gonna say it. What did you think? I was gonna say, you have a problem with Emily bringing that up at the reunion about the custody. I thought that was bad. I thought that was really bad. When Emily brought that up, I looked it up and you lost custody and she was shaming her

and I just felt like that was, I thought that was shitty because Emily's a family lawyer and I just felt like she knows that there's a lot of, there's a lot of nuances to those situations and also to shame the wife and the mother in that situation felt really icky to me. I didn't like that. What did you think?

I agree. I completely agree. I thought it was too far. And it seemed like she was doing it out of retribution. So yes, it just makes more sense why Katie would go low with the blogger stuff because I think she's trying to get back at Emily and yeah I'm like firmly team Katie for this entire episode I just I'm gonna say this like straight up I I don't know if I'll stay team Katie but as of right now I just think that like everything

that they brought up on the at the reunion was really like gross and I I just, and like Emily's like, I never said anything bad about Heather DeProw and how could you? I'm like, I 100% believe that Emily and Shane had conversations about her castmates, her coworkers, and the kids overheard it. I 100% believe it. And she's embarrassed and she's trying to deflect, you know, away from, you know,

Heather's the wealthiest person on the cast and she doesn't want to get on Heather's bad side, I think, hopefully. Right. Yeah, nobody does. and she doesn't want to get on Heather's bad side, I think, hopefully. Right, yeah, nobody does. No one does. And Heather doesn't want to get on anybody's bad side because she doesn't necessarily, like, she's not hanging. You know what I mean?

They're not like, let's go hang, Heather. And she never could get on anyone's bad side because she is young and hip and cool and everyone loves Heather Dubrow. I think that after this whole blogger things goes away and Katie apologizes for taking it a little bit too far, I think we have a clean slate because honestly I do see what, what Katie did was wrong. Yeah.

But I also can see why she would do it. Um, and why she would tit for tat. And so, because they're saying like, we all agreed that we wouldn't do this after the reunion. It's like, well, yeah, after you just dragged Katie through the mud with the custody stuff, then you all agreed. So she needed to get one more jab in, I think, before she could let it go.

And now we can call it even. Yeah, and I'm totally fine with that. I think I get like one little, like a little thing on the side there, you know? Yeah. So, you know, she's little thing on the side there, you know? Yeah. So, you know, she's, Shannon's like, well, you know, but the thing is that Emily's ex-nanny came forward to talk

and Katie's like, yeah, she reached out to me. And we see this headline that says Emily Simpson's former nanny speaks out saying, Emily's kids knew everything and hated Heather Dubrow, which is such a funny. It's hilarious. So Emily's kids hated Heather Dubrow or that Emily hated Heather Dubrow, which is such a funny. It's hilarious. So Emily's kids hated Heather Dubrow or that Emily hated Heather Dubrow or all of the above? Do they just all hate Heather Dubrow in that household?

As a family, as a family unit. That's one of their favorite family activities together just to hate Heather Dubrow. Right. So Shannon's like, well, Emily is saying that you told the nanny where to put the information out there. So Katie then explains, she says after the reunion, Emily's ex, you know, like Emily's ex and he like reached out to me and said, your daughter's not lying.

And this is my experience. And it was just like really validating. And I said, there's nothing I can do with this. So I told her, look, this is the podcast that Callie just did, my daughter. And she'd then reached out to the podcast and I had nothing with any of that going out. That was nothing. I said, here, here, this is the podcast. I'm assuming their email is probably like contact at nanny, nanny dish.com blogger, post social media at Gmail. Yeah.

And so be it, you know, it wasn't, you know, I don't know. The wrong hands, you know, I just, so I laid it out like a golden corral buffet and, you know, I wasn't in, I didn't tell anybody to go pick it up or eat it. I just, I just happened to notice that there was a podcast that my daughter was on and I don't know how she got on that either, but either way just happened to notice that there was a podcast that my daughter was on, and I don't know how she got on that either, but either way, it just happened. Yeah. Shannon tried a little.

She was like, and you, your kids, they don't go on podcasts. Are you okay with that? She was like, yeah. Yeah, I'm okay with that. Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm down, I'm down with that. Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm down, I'm down with it. Commercials, here comes one right now.

I just think it's also funny that there's all this discussion about like the etiquette of going onto a podcast or talking to the podcast or talking to the gossip people when like Tamara has two T's in a pod and that's like literally like she is as much a part of this ecosystem as anyone else is at this point. Tamara talks gossip like Tamara like two T's in a pod. We're all, we're all in it.

We're all in the mix together. So they can't act like they are like, how could you talk to bloggers? Right. When they are. That is funny. In it, you're part of it. You're part of it. You're part of the world.

It's so strange bloggers are now a part of the entire like tapestry of these episodes. Now I don't know if I really like that. Yeah, it's weird. Um, but they're also like so obsessed with it because I think they're all just very concerned with controlling the narrative and when they can't control the narrative, they lose their minds because like, honestly, I think Emily, if it were me, I'd be like, okay, well, whatever.

It's a disgruntled ex-nanny, who the fuck cares? I'm moving on my life, I've got bigger fish to fry. But she's like, I'm gonna hire a lawyer. I'm like, seems a bit excessive over an ex-nanny, you know, saying some stupid headline. Yeah, I can understand, I guess I can understand her putting a cease and desist out if she's saying stuff about her family and her kids,

because when it comes to the kids, you know. So I do think- They're off limits. They're off limits. So I do feel like if're off limits. They're off limits. So I do feel like if I was in her position, I would be like, yeah, you were actually working for me and those are my kids and now you're speaking on behalf.

Like I would probably do something legal too. So I'll go- Like Cease and Desist. Yeah, I'll go team Emily on that one for sure. You gotta gag that nanny. Because she's messed this hell. You gotta gag the nanny. Because she's messed this hell. You gotta gag the nanny. Yeah, you gotta gag that nanny.

You gotta gag order. Gag that nanny. Now we go back over to Gina's new house and I have to say... Gag that nanny! Limits on time only! Gag that nanny! Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. She, uh, she's finally moved into a larger house. Talk about claustrophobia. I mean, you said that you felt claustrophobic in Shannon's house. I mean,

if I had to watch Gina cram another child into a closet and divide or a large clock, into a closet and divide her. Or a large clock. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was a lot. She was doing a lot in that small space. But she has a very big, she moved into her house and she had a very big moment because

she went to, she went to Bali. Do you have, I don't know if you have the, if you happen to have the notes in front of you, do you want to read this Gina monologue? But if you, if you don't have the notes, then don't worry about it. The Gina monologue. Yeah. Um, I, where did I put it? Sorry. I know I was just sort of like ambushed you with the monologue, but I just felt like this is such a big Gina explanation on page three. We're only on page three of our notes.

Oh, that's hilarious. Okay. She basically, yes. I think I've got it. Yes, you see it. Please read out. At the very bottom of three? Yes. Okay.

Travis and I have made the decision to move back in together. There are not a lot of homes this size in my neighborhood. And last year, it was very easy to say, oh, we can afford something together because that wasn't the real issue. This is going to sound weird, but I took a trip to Bali or the summer

and honestly, it was life-changing trip. I so connected to the wind when I was there. And there were so many things. I found out that I was living with fear and making decisions out of fear. Everything happened with Travis and his ex. He really scared me. And I didn't say anything. I got nothing. He has an ability to to move in with their life. Dictate mine, like I feel fucking free. Thank you. Thank you. It's beautiful.

Thank you, Amy. Thank you for like giving us a moment of Gina like that. That was- Thank you. I don't know what it was. You really translated the emotional and spiritual growth that she felt about going to Bali. That's what Bali does. Unfortunately, it turns out Bali is a neighborhood bar and grill in Costa Mesa.

With an outdoor patio on the roof, so it gets a lot of wind. Very windy. As I was eating those mozzarella sticks, I realized, why am I living in Fia? I realized why am I living in fear? So, Emily comes over and they know to say hi and everything. And, you know, it's baby steps for Gina because she's like, I need a couch. I feel bad. And they just have like a bunch of Costco chairs set up and everything.

So, Gina's like, I got to tell you something. Okay. I went to, I went to the dog beach the other day with Jen and Shannon and Jen basically told me that Katie did tell Jen that Nanny reached out to Katie and Katie gave her the information for that podcaster. And I had to like really stop and rewind it three times. Like they put up, I think they even put up like a little infographic so we could follow what the

hell she was saying. I still had to go back and rewatch it. That's amazing. That was an amazing moment. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, so like it's like this girl and spacey like, hi Katie, I want to ruin Emily's life. And I want to talk shit about our children. And Katie's like, okay, here's the phone number. Like go do it. Yeah. Cause like Annabelle's friends all have Instagram and social media and they tell her things that they read about her. Mike, wait, now Annabelle is in the mix here. What I wonder if the did the nanny have some stuff to say about Annabelle? I know. Did she trash Annabelle? I know. I thought, well, is it that it's about her brothers and like,

and what are they making fun of her about? You know, I mean, I guess just being a real housewives daughter, I suppose. I guess so. Kids can be brutal. Yeah, because the. I guess so. Kids can be brutal. Yeah, kids are the worst. So Emily Bansley's saying- I'll kill them all. Kill them all.

I'll kill you. She's like, I've never felt so violated in my life. I get that Katie can't control the fact that the nanny reached out to her. However, instead of telling me or ignoring it, she connected the nanny with a podcaster. Yeah, I guess probably like the way to build a relationship would be like, hey, just so you know, this nanny is starting to sniff around

and I want you to know I'm not taking the bait. Right. But instead she just. You know, it's how it's done. You gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah, you gotta, or you could say, hey, go on to the Nanny Shit Talk podcast and have at it. Yeah, right. Well, wouldn't it have been great if Emily's like, by the way, that nanny's been dead for four years!

You're talking to a ghost! Gina's like, oh my god, you're talking to a ghost too. Wait a second. So Emily's just basically saying, you know what the problem is other bloggers read it and then they replicate it so that the general public can all comment on my parenting and my children. I'm like, that is true.

But also, okay. I mean, you're on a reality show. And you like, you know, a big part of it is that you're talking about your children. Like you make us sit through scenes of taking Annabelle to modeling auditions. And like, that's fine, that's what's going on in your life. But like, if you want to protect your children, like you really should not be on this show.

I agree. I mean, every time they talk about, like we don't talk about the children, it's not about the children. Everything becomes about the children really. Yeah. Cause everybody steps over the boundaries. Yeah.

I'm like literally the rest of Emily's episode is about her kid. And so it's like, I mean, obviously it's not like talking shit about the kid, you know, that's for me to do with, guess what's coming up? No, just kidding. But, but like, you know, the point is that like, there's a risk, there's an inherent risk about like highlighting your children on TV. And I'm not being like, well, deal with it. But like, like also, you know,

I don't know. I mean, like, yeah, you, you, you, people can talk. Yeah. We'll talk. People are going to talk. People can say things. Speaking of, I don't mean to skip ahead, but the whole thing with Emily's son's eating disorder, the RFED thing, that's really intense. I mean, I could see that in both ways, like in many ways, it's going to be relatable for a lot of parents out there who have kids that struggle with this. I have heard of it. And basically, I could see it being a good thing for her and for people to come together as a community, but it's also difficult to see it being exposed on this show when he's so young. I go back and forth. I feel like I was actually, it's funny, cause I do sound like I'm sort of like all over the map here because I actually

was really glad that that was profile because that's something I really didn't know about. And I thought it was fascinating and I thought it was like a very real thing going on in her life. So like I want the housewives to show the real things and the struggles that they go through. And I found it was like compelling and I like looked it up on my phone. And I just was, so I liked that she shared that

and she brought awareness to it. But it's like, it's just, there's something I always find to be very hypocritical about really any housewife who's like, like, oh my God, I don't want people talking about my children. It's like, well, but just know it's like, it can be a double edged sword.

And like, you know, we don't try to make fun of the kids cause they're just the kids unless they can do something terrible. But it's just like, you know. I hope that doesn't come back and backfire in any way, you know, cause that'll be really awful. You know, you don't want to have anybody weaponize anything about their kids.

And it ends up happening in a lot of shows, you know, you don't want to have anybody weaponize anything about their kids and it ends up happening in a lot of shows, you know, They do it a lot. And then there's some people who also just like play that card too. Like if someone just mentions like the word kid and like a theoretical like they people they just lose their mind like You know, like I was talking about a goat, a kid goat, you know, yeah Right, right, right. So then, so back to Shannon and Katie, and Katie is saying like, she was okay with Callie telling her, she's like, I was okay with Callie telling her truth, but I was also pissed.

I mean, cause like you talk about my custody and something that was extremely painful to not just me, but those three kids and that's just not apples to apples, Shannon. Oh, well, I didn't realize we could get a computer here. So I will, if there are any apples around. Let me put this orange down. No, I'm not going to put the orange down. Never, ever. It goes, surprising well what this trail makes. Yes. So basically Katie's like, yeah, like they, they brought up this thing at the reunion and it was shitty and like everything has been squashed.

They bring it back up again and I never got an apology. And like them, this thing with the nanny does not even compare to what they brought up at the reunion and what they aired out. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah.

So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah.

So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. has been squashed. They bring it back up again and I never got an apology. And like them, this thing with the nanny does not even compare to what they brought up at the reading and what they aired out. So, and I kind of agree to be honest. I do. I agree. Yeah. So then Gina, meanwhile, is like, you know, I've had with her, like, like, so like I have to get this out cause like it actually is like, okay,

so I called Katie to invite her to coffee. Cause I've had it with her. I've absolutely had it. This, I guess this is going to be the new G. This is what Gina does at the top of the season. She just like goes hard after someone. She's like, I'm going to get a coffee and I'm going to yell at you. Yeah. She did last year, the Jen, she's not paying a mortgage or your rent. Right.

Right. And I'm in real estate, so I know about that now. Legit, license. Did you know that they call it Lent-to-let in Europe? Yeah, I know these things. I work in real estate now. It'll be bad. Now. So, Emily is like, she's like, well, I want to go,

but I have mom things going on. She's like really hard. So now we come back over to a new scene and Shannon's at house and now she is like FaceTiming with Stella and she's like, oh, so what country are you in now, Stella? And she's like, Amsterdam. Oh, well, that's not technically a country, it's a city,

but that's okay, I'm so happy for that education we paid thousands of dollars for. She's like, oh, so what are you going to be doing in Amsterdam and why are you still up? Missy, it should be at eight o'clock over there as far as I can tell. She's like, we can go to a rave. Oh, oh, a rave. I, I, I, um,

I'm not sure I understand what a rave actually is. Is that, is that French for, um, going to bed early or money? Is, is, is, are, are you going to meet up with a fine gentleman at a coffee shop? Is that what a rave is? Is a raving- Will you be writing a very positive review of an establishment rave? Yeah. Yeah.

Are you getting on top of a bar and dancing like your mother? On Love Hotel? Are you gonna be wild and hilarious and fun? Will Earl the Pearl be there? Will Earl the Pearl be there? Will Earl the Pearl be there? Earl! Oh.

Earl the Pearl. Earl the Pearl. It's like, no, it started like 11 and like, it's like it's gonna go until like seven in the morning and the DJ I'm gonna go see is at from 2.30 to 5.30. Oh, well, you mean drug o'clock, Missy? Drug o'clock. I'm just so proud of, of my Stella, somebody who was like, mom, I hate you. I, I, I, I'm never leaving this house. I'm going to take this house from you and

dad. And I don't like anybody in this family is thriving in Amsterdam. I can't believe it. Wow. Maybe she will run into her new stepmother there in one of the windows where all the sluts are. I'm sorry. Red light district. This is more like the red light district because I am seeing red right now, Sally. You get back into bed. Okay, mom.

All right. Well, mom, there's going to be maybe a hurricane here in France, so can you just make sure you're checking the apps? Well, I didn't know that there would be a hurricane. If you had told me that there'd be a hurricane, I would have checked it. I would have 100% checked it, but I don't know these things

unless you communicate with me, Stella. Erle the Pearl's like, Shannon just wanna text you, let you know that we had a very sunny day yesterday. We had a very sunny day. We had a very sunny day. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it.

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I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. Use SPF, what more do you want me to do? When you said a cloud had passed over the sun, I thought you were safe. You did not tell me that the cloud would keep on moving. You said you were in lake water. Lake water isn't as sun absorbing as the ocean.

I only know oceans. I am sorry that I don't know how SPF works in different terrains. I am sorry and I will work on that, but I can't be expected to know these things unless you communicate with me, Earl. That's what I'm trying to say to you. And I'm just not even sure I could continue

with this text message. By the way- It's not enough, Shannon, it's not enough. By the way, Earl, did they open up the dynamic lanes in Georgia yet? Because we have them here and they are wonderful. Ha ha ha ha. Oh boy.

Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. So speaking of dynamic, let's go see what the Dubros are up to. So they're over at their Beverly Hills house, which is just like stripped down and just like there's like nothing left of it. And Heather's talking about how Max is in,

I haven't said asbestos, is in Paris. And they're walking around and Terry's like, wow, this place looks like shit. How much asbestos did he find? Well, no one ever told me because unfortunately, people are apparently quote unquote, scared to tell me about asbestos and I don't understand why that would be.

He's like, well, my stepfather died from asbestos of the lung, by the way. Trevor's like, well, I feel like I failed. I was like, you didn't fail. And you did hear that I just mentioned that my stepfather died of asbestos, right? No, I'm really just focusing on this. I'm talking about me.

I'm talking about me communicating with the construction people. This is far more serious than whatever happened to your stepfather. Ha ha ha ha ha. When we bought the Beverly Hills house, I had a really good plan. We were gonna buy this house, renovate it,

spend the mornings waving to Drake next door, made him rest the morning throwing pebbles down at Wendy Malek down at the bottom of the hill. Wendy. But now look at us. Drake has to look at this. This is what he thinks of me. He thinks, look, look at that woman who was on that CBS pilot

in 1999, look at the state of her house. This is no way to live. What an embarrassment to my entire reputation. So I will stand here out in the very open. Get a look at me for the last time, Drake. Take a good look Drake, because television's heavy Heather Jabrro won't be standing here much longer. She's like smoke and she disappears like a magician.

She shows up in Dorit's house. This is mine now. I've consulted Bravo. They said that I can take this over now. Goodbye. Great timing. It's not paid for anyway. I've consulted Bravo. They said that I can take this over now. Goodbye. So apparently- Great timing.

It's not paid for anyway. You know, they were telling me that there was an issue with the door and closing, and then it turns out they were saying foreclosing. A huge mistake. You can have it now. So Heather is saying that, I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that.

I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that.

I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. You can have it now. So Heather is saying that basically they bought this house, they had this plan to renovate it. They tore it, they like stripped it down and then the contractor was like, by the way, it's going to cost eight more, $8 million more to renovate this than we originally said. So she had him killed. If you ever give me an estimate like that again, it will cost you a lot. So now the house is just in this sad state and they are just trying to figure out what to do. And Terry's like, well, I mean, let's just sell it. Let's just move on. Am I right?

That's such a good Terry. It's really good. He does kind of blend. He kind of talks like a jazz singer. So I don't know, yeah. We can just move on. Let's find another rapper to live next to. I don't know. This house is hot. Do you know what Macklemore's up to? You know? I love his music.

What a relevant rapper artist. So she's like, well, first of all, we have to finish the floors because to me it looks like a war zone. It's like someone broke out in war on my floor and we have to fix it. And he's like, well, I mean, what, they're just going to tear it all up again. Oh, it's so little money, Terry. I mean, what is it? $350,000.

Come on. Well, if I can change, I love it. Terry Dubrow, that is so funny. Wow. 45,000. I mean, it's $45,000. I mean, Terry Dubrow thing. It's so funny. Wow, $45,000. I mean, it's $45,000. I mean, that's a party you throw at Nobu, isn't it? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Wendy Malak wishes. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh, we're laughing, Terry.

Terry, laugh. Laugh, Terry. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Let it echo through the canyon, Terry. Let Drake see how happy we are. This could be inspiration for Jake's next new jam. So, I will be a guest vocalist, okay? Does Drake know that I once sang a song produced and written by Richard Marx? Does Drake know that I once sang a song produced and written by Richard Marx?

I think I would be a valuable person on this track. By the way, I love that song. I love that video. Do yourself a favor. Because this happened. All right. Have a nice gummy, have a THC gummy, whatever you can handle. Okay. Then go back and watch that gaggle of Orange County ladies sing that song And you're gonna trip out. It's so good It's I think that song so much. I'm mad that it was because well Sometimes I'm a good girl. Sometimes I'm bad. I do what I want cuz it's all I have and then I do what I want, cause it's all I have. And then, and then, and then, and then, and then. You know it from the beginning, I was expecting that.

Yeah, and then we get to the bridge. Heather Dubrow does the bridge, cause they're all singing terribly. It's like Emily going like, sometimes I'm a good girl, sometimes I'm bad. And then Noella's like, and Dr. Jen is on it. But then Heather Dubrow comes on, she goes, you are all I need.

She does the whole bridge, and then it goes, the big chorus, which is, I do whatever I want, whenever I want, with no expectations, I go wherever I want, wherever I want to and wherever I'll be. I'm messing up the lyrics, but that's like basically, that's the spirit of it. And I'm telling you right now, like it's so, it is,

it's such a beautiful and pure song and it should have been at least as a true single. I agree. And thank you Richard Marks. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you Richard Marks for that, for this beautiful, beautiful song. I actually have it in my, actually have it in my iTunes library. Although for some reason it's just like not showing up right now and I'm like really sad. It's a ghost. It's a ghost.

I think it's labeled the OC Reels. Oh yeah, right. Nice. This is a great throwback. I love that. It's great. Yeah, it's called like whatever I want or whatever, but it's some of Richard Mark's greatest work.

And I'm sorry, I can't pull it up for you. It's just for some reason hiding away. I was going to try to play it and make it a beautiful moment for us. Oh, that's all right. That's okay. I think you did a great job. I think you did a great job anyway. Thank you. Thank you.

Well, now I'm concerned. I'm like, where's my music file? Yeah, you're like, I want to listen to it. I'm like, wait a second. Whatever. So now we go to Emily at home and she's offering, You're like, what's going on? I wanna listen to it. I'm like, wait a second. So now we go to Emily at home and she's offering, she's asking her son if he wants to eat something and he's like, no. And this scene we sort of just think

it's a scene with like kids, right? Yeah. And he's saying that he like, he ate some pirate's booty at lunch, whatever. And you know, like just nothing, whatever. And you're like, OK. And Emily is saying how the sons are 10, and they're sort of small for their age and everything.

You're like, OK. And then this is when she tells everyone that Luke has been diagnosed with ARFID, which stands for Avoidance Restrictive Food Intake Disorder, where it's like, it's where people don't like want to eat. Like they don't like the idea of eating. And it's like, it's difficult, not difficult, but like it's a whole, it's a whole thing.

And it's like very scary and very fascinating. And I got, my heart really went out to her when she was describing this whole process. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah. So she's saying like, they're just like, they have him in therapy

and they're trying to get him to try different things. And she can talk about how they try to get, like he's recently learned about checks mix and you know, baby steps, but like, wow, so scary. It is. I think, you know, with Shane saying, well, we've identified it and we're getting the help. I mean, that's the most important thing, obviously,

is that they now know what it is. I mean, you see these warning signs or you see things like, and how Gina was reflecting on her situation with her daughter and the sensory issues. And I love how she shared, like she felt guilt, but it's just so difficult to, to notice what the signs to look for you. Sometimes they just pass right by you. And one of the things that I've learned as a parent, I have an eight year old daughter, and, you know, all kids have issues, you know, by the way, and so do adults, like everybody has

their thing. And that's one thing that I've realized about, you know, having the way, and so do adults. Like everybody has their thing. And that's one thing that I've realized about, you know, having a child, like, you know, we have our issues and everybody we know has their issues. But one of the things I've learned is like, just to be a good observer and to really take note of things and don't be afraid to be like, huh, I'm gonna clock this and I'm gonna maybe jot this down. And by the way, I have heard of ARFID.

There is this, do you mind if I give a podcast a shout out? Absolutely. 100%. So there's this podcast, it's called Parenting Survival, AT Parenting Survival. And it's all about like, it's this, she's a, I think she's a therapist. I'm not sure what her credentials are, but she has several kids and she's also like a child counselor, but she knows so much about like child OCD, child anxiety, kids with ARFID, all of those things that kind of meld together that can kind of cross over.

And that's when I even heard about it, because I just really like listening to her podcast and learning all about this different stuff. And I was like, wow, this is such a thing I never knew, but it is real. And when, when Emily's talking about it, it's nice to hear someone label it because it's not something like you said that people really know about. And it can pass you by. You might not know what it is and how to help it. Yeah, I think actually she did a great service because there probably are parents who are like, well, my child's just a picky eater or whatever. And I have to imagine, I don't have kids, but like I have to imagine that like if you

suspect something is amiss, there might be an instinct to be like, I don't want to, like you sort of maybe go into denial because it's actually scary. And like the counterintuitive thing with really with anything and that happens to us as adults with our bodies sometimes that we think like, well, I don't, I want to ignore it because you get this irrational feeling like if you ignore it, it's not really there. And the really the truth is you actually want to lean into it

and start like whatever treatment you can as soon as possible or like awareness. And so it's really good if it's helping. If this storyline does help other parents realize there may be, you know, like maybe there there's something going on in their household that, um, that they were maybe turning a blind eye to. So I think it could be really helpful. It's also just fascinating to me. It's just, it's like intriguing. Like I'm intrigued to see what this journey is going to be and what the treatment's gonna be. Like I'm actually like very fascinated by this whole thing.

Yeah, absolutely. And it's just all about like making that first appointment. That just can set the course. And that's always the hardest thing to do. It's like, well, where do I start? You know, just go to your primary, then they can give you to another specialist, then they can give you and then just the research, you know, you got to do your research. And there's just so many outlets now, like you can join a Facebook group.

That's like our fed support. You know what I mean? Like there's just so much stuff out there now. I think that's the other thing is like when you're scared about something going on in your body or maybe your child's body or a loved one's body, it's like the great unknown. But like once you actually get yourself onto a path of treatment or like being proactive about it,

it suddenly becomes much less, I won't say it becomes less scary, but it becomes more like, okay. Like I can take this on, we're gonna figure something out here as opposed to this thing that you can't even look at or talk about. Right, right, right. Yeah, so good on Emily.

Good on Emily. Yeah, I mean, when we grow up, our parents would be like, have a fucking Cheeto and go to bed. Like, they're not gonna look at it, but it's a different time. Yeah, I mean, it is, exactly time. Yeah, I mean it is exactly. Um, so, so Emily and Shane are dealing with that. Um, and then we then as long as we're talking about mental health issues and what's

going on in the body and whatnot, we then move to elsewhere in Orange County for Tamar judge to have her therapy session. So she comes in, it's like, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh. She's like, already crying. Listen, I want to say first and foremost. Cheers, cheers, cheers. Cheers, cheers, cheers.

I 100%, I love therapy. I had therapy two days ago. I totally endorse therapy. I want everyone to get therapy. I want Tamar to get therapy. I want everyone to get therapy. Cause I Tamara to get therapy. I want everyone to get therapy. Cause I, which by the way, very similar situation. I was sort of scared to start a therapy.

Cause it was like, so he's sort of like, I don't need therapy or whatever. And then you finally just do it and you're like, oh, this is great. Yeah, it's nothing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is something though. Kind of is a big deal, but you know, it's good.

It's great. What's the, it's not the It's great. What's the same? It's not the same as, as like for instance, what Emily is dealing with. But the point is that like we can sometimes dig our heels in for treating things. So I am happy that Tamara, I really am happy that Tamara's in therapy.

But that being said, like she is so funny. Like Tamara going to therapy, like this therapy session, like I wanted to, the therapist seemed by all accounts, like a totally legit good therapist. And this could have been all authentic, but there's just something about Tamara just showing up already crying, like in just full Tamara soapy melodrama

that just, I was cracking up. I was like, I love this show. I also love that the therapist immediately, immediately needed to correct the fact that she hasn't been assessed for being on the spectrum. She knew what happened, you know, already, obviously. So she was like, yeah, I understand. So we do need to get you assessed cause we haven't done that yet. Um, and you know,

we can cross that bridge when we come to it because an assessment will be needed. You know, I just may have like got too excited on my podcast and like just, I was just excited to be on the spectrum. So I just wanted to say it. Just want to shout out from the rooftops, people are pussed. I just want to say, I've been crying since last week's therapy session

because I looked at my bill and my bill from spectrum is so high. Please. You just, you just have to stop saying that word Tamer. I think our first, just stop saying the word. Okay. Just stop saying it. It's a trigger. It's, you know, maybe just let's use different language, you know? Okay. Okay. All right. Well, I was helping my son with his physics homework and he was learning about, you know, color and a lot of colors on the spectrum there. Okay. Pull it back. Pull it back. Okay. Sorry. Sorry, batch. Sorry, batch. Can you watch your language across the board? You can refer to me as Dr. Jones.

Okay, batch. I just think that maybe I actually am on the spectrum after all, because that's my opinion. I love the flashback of all of her freak outs. I know. And so now her whole thing is dealing with unprocessed trauma, which by the way, I don't know if she's talking about her or we as an audience who have been watching her for so many years, having to take on so much of what she's done, but she's going to work on it. So she's like, my sensory issues are heightened.

My intrusive thoughts are out of control right now. It's like, right, right, right. Well, yeah, that with the unprocessed trauma, you know, that whether or not that was on the spectrum or not, which I think we can agree was not, I didn't actually say that you said that. You said, if you could sign here that you said that, not me, that would be great on camera.

There we go. Yeah, so remember how we talked about how people with trauma don't respond in ways that people are going to expect them to respond. So for instance, if I don't know, you're a therapist and you talk to someone and you say, you know, there are some people on the spectrum who have, you know, who process emotions differently and then the person with the trauma then goes and announces that they have, they're on the spectrum. That would be a response that you would not expect. Right? That would be-

That would be disgusting. Thank God I didn't do that. Yeah, you did. You did do that. I did. I did do that. I did do that. I did. I did that. I did that. I did that. So you have a daughter who has requested multiple times that you don't bring her up

on camera. Is there anything you'd like to say? Yeah, with Sydney, it's just like everything with Sydney. On camera again. Here it goes again. Although honestly, I'm at this point where I'm like, you know what? I'm sort of on Tamra's side at this point. This girl's got like Sydney, you just have to deal with it.

Your name is- I know at this point, this girl's got like Sydney, you just have to deal with it. Your name is I know at this point, right? I guess her daughter's probably like, this is the least amount that she'll talk about me if I say don't talk about me. But if I'm in her life, she'll probably won't stop talking about me. But I think it goes the other way around because the daughter doesn't realize that she's just giving Tamra an endless story line. Oh, right, right. You just have to, what Sydney has to do is she's gonna have to suck up one annoying season

where it's like, we're mending things. She's gonna come on camera. I'm bringing her to a coffee shop. And then we'll never see her again. Because where the fuck are the rest of Tamra's kids? Right, her daughter's gonna be like, you'll never see my face again! And run out, remember when Tamra did that? That was amazing, that was my favorite part. because where the fuck are the rest of Tamara's kids? Right. Her daughter's gonna be like, you'll never see my face again!

And run out, remember when Tamara did that? That was amazing, that was my favorite. I'm so proud, I'm so proud. I love that moment. I'm always, like in my hand, I'm always when I leave like a party or something, I'm like, you'll never see my face again! I just love that, it's so good.

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