Watch What Crappens - #2923 Crappy Hour: Denise Divorce, Brock Infidelity, and The Hot Men of Kings Court

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Kiki Monique of Reality Checked joins Ben for Crappy Hour this week as they discuss all the pressing topics: Aaron filing for divorce from Denise Richards; Scheana announcing that Brock cheated during her pregnancy; a potential new RHOBH cast member, and America’s biggest villain: Janet.  Plus, thoughts on Kings Court and other Bravo shows.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hi Kiki, how are you? I'm great. How are you? I am fantastic. I'm so happy to see you. I've been seeing a lot of you over the past few weeks. We saw each other at the Watcher Crappins, end of concert, not concert,

end of podcast or wrap party. And then more importantly, the two of us shared a bagel together in Los Angeles. We did a bagel Friday, bagel Thursday crossover experience and it was so fun. So much fun. Did you enjoy bagel was delicious. I actually had a bagel today. Utopia. I'm in New York. One of the best bagels ever in New York. Oh you were so lucky. Everyone in the comments is saying hello. If this is your first time joining us here on Crappy Hour, what we do is we talk sort of about Bravo, goss, et cetera,

maybe the extended world of Bravo, um, for about 45 minutes or so. Um, but we also are going to talk about some of the shows and then, um, we turn it over to you and we'll just call you guys up. So as we approach that 45 minute mark, I'm going to put a link in on, uh, it'll be in the comments. I think it's going to be on, on YouTube only, unfortunately, not for Instagram. And we will call you up to join. So if you want to participate later on the episode, uh, be sure to join us on YouTube, because this is going to YouTube and Instagram, uh, before we get started, Kehee, do you want to tell everyone where they can find you and listen to your beautiful voice? Yeah, you can always find me on Instagram and TikTok at the Talk of Shame. And you can hear me weekdays with Dorinda Medley on Radio Andy. We host reality check every day at 4pm Eastern. I mean, how what a cool thing that you get to host a show with Dorinda Medley herself.

I mean, it's when you got the call, when you when you were told like, guess what, you're gonna be hosting with Dorinda. Like, what I mean, when you got the call, when you were told like, guess what, you're gonna be hosting with Dorinda. Like what was that moment like for you? I mean, I was just kind of like, I'm ready coach, put me in. I was like, this is what I've been building up. I've been watching TV my entire life. I've learned everything about reality TV and pop culture.

This is what I'm made for. This is the moment. This is the moment. Alvie in the comments says, what is your favorite bagel? I am a sesame bagel girlie. What about you, Kiki? I love an onion bagel, you know, locks and cream cheese and you know, all the things on a nice onion bagel.

You really, you really cannot go wrong. Okay. So while we wait for people are still coming in, They're arriving into our virtual room here. So before we do that, before, before we dive into like the really big headlines as people arrive, I just want to touch base. How are you feeling about the state of Bravo? What's on right now? Like, how are you, like any hot takes on some of the big shows that are airing next gen or the

Valley, et cetera? Tell me everything. I feel like there had been a little bit of a dry spell just like not too long ago. And so I'm very excited because I actually feel like every night I'm looking forward to something like I know people, you know, have their opinions about the McBee dynasty, but I love that show. So I'm like happy that's on, you know, Mondays,

obviously the valley and next gen NYC has been appointment TV, Miami. That's go off on Broadway. Yeah. Miami is amazing. And now Orange County is back. I'm pretty much in heaven and I actually just watch King's Court. I'm obsessed with that because I got two of the episodes as screeners.

I'm obsessed already. Let's talk about that for a second because I watched it as well because I mean it's, you know, it's, it's what's his face. Why am I all this and blanking on it? Thank you. I almost said Tyrese. I was like, it's not Tyrese. Tyson Beckford. I mean, he is after all these years, you just like watch me like he is gorgeous. Like the people who, the women who got to be on this show, who just like, guess what? You're going to be on a dating show and you might be dating Tyson Bechford, the most famous male model of all time. Are you kidding me? Yeah, I would be like,

I watched it as well. Okay. Wait, so tell me, what, what did you think about it? What did you think about the premiere? Like, and which guy do you like the most? You know, I actually like all three guys, because I think they're so different in their own ways that I feel like it's a really good mix. And I think they have a really I think the women that they have is really interesting. I like the setup where, you know, I like how they're dating and they you know,

because I always love chaos. I like when it's like, yes, you have an idea of who you want to be with. But if that guy's feeling someone else, then you can kind of move over here. And like everyone's like, I just, I love the whole setup. Again, I feel like I'm a little bit cause I'm ahead cause I watched episode two. Episode two made me the biggest fan, but really, yeah. Cause I thought episode one was nice. I enjoyed it. Um, I didn't think it was like, I didn't think it was like life changing. And in fact,

I thought when they went on their dates, it was kind of annoying. I liked when they were talking and schmoozing. I think I'm like right now in a love Island state where I just want to see people talk because like when they went skydiving or when they went to that, like paint class, I was kind of like, I don't know, like this, it's just like very reality showy. And I'm like, I'm not, I don't believe anyone's building any sort of relationship here, but, um, I did. I think guys are so hot.

They're so hot. Yeah. No, like I can see how the dates got cringe, but the true colors, especially of one of the particular women comes out in episode two. And then that's when you see, okay, we're in a competition now because they're introducing more women. So it's not just going to be those women for the whole time. Yes, that makes me excited.

Um, I, uh, and all three guys were very interesting because Tyson arguably has been in the public eye the longest, I think of these three. So he's actually, I find very comfortable there. Um, Carlos is a bit more, I mean, they've all been in the public eye a lot, but Carlos is much, much more of like a yogi spiritual guy too, which surprised me. And then Tyson, I mean, I think that like, not Tyson, Titus is, he's so hot. Like, I mean, I love a muscular guy and he, um, but he's a little cheesy. I'm like a little concerned my cheesy meters going off a bit, but I do like him.

I do like him. And like, I'm still trying to get a vibe on him. But what I do like is he's very honest about, you know, what it means to be a big black man, you know, and there's white women in the house. And like, I love that he's willing to have those conversations because I think that is important. And so I kind of like that aspect.

And then yeah, yeah, Carlos, I think is the basketball player. Of course, you know, basketball players have a reputation, but you know, we'll see how that goes. We'll see. I mean, that one, that one lady, the white lady who's like, oh yes, I've totally dated black men and my two parents are senators in Tennessee. And guess what? I did not date black men. my two parents are senators in Tennessee and just guess what? I did not date black man. I just have never done it. I was like lady

Like if you think you're staying on this show She's like, oh my parents are so accepting of everyone. I was like, okay, let's Tennessee and yes senators. I was like, do I want to Google this? Do I want to see what he voted for? Cause I don't think this is going the right way. Lady, the sooner you're off the show, the better for you. Just trust us. But yeah, I thought it was fun.

I don't know if we're going to recap it or not, but I'm definitely going to, I mean, I really am. I might just watch it just cause those guys are so attractive. Like, is that such as, I'm like, it's, it sounds almost silly, but like they're very pleasant to look at. Yeah, no, I'm into it. You know, I hope, I hope it keeps up. We'll see what happens. But I, again, I think episode two was why, why I was like, okay, I'm going to watch this for the ratchet ratchetness of it.

Okay. I'll check in on it. And you know, you just did just say that you also are in support of the McBee dynasty. I have to say, I haven't watched tonight's episode yet. I've watched the first two where I struggle is actually not the subject matter. You know, I'm, you know, I'm all liberal and stuff, but I I'm fine watching like the Cowboys and the, and the farm stuff and everything. I don't mind that. I just have trouble with the way the show is actually made. I feel like it just feels like really cheap to me.

And like, I think maybe I have to push through the trappings of the show, but it just, it really does not feel like a Bravo show to me. And I'm really struggling just with how it's presented. Well, that's the thing because, you know, I really became a fan, like the production company, Jeff Jenkins production company is the same production company that does Mormon wives.

And so like when they did Mormon wives, I started following them because I was like, oh, I really love the first season. And then they did McBee and I was like, I really love the first season of that. My fear, because I do fear this is what is happening with the Mormon wives. And my fear is what I have a McBee is that they, they, they push it too hard on us and we get oversaturated with too much of it too soon. Like, I feel like the Mormon wives are being inundated us on a way that like it shouldn't happen like that.

Like, and so I'm scared because I'm like, I really want to enjoy it, but I don't want to be pushed into it. Yeah. I mean, the saving grace is that there are a lot of people on the McBee dynasty to make fun of, which is really where Ron and I, that's our sweet spot are just like just idiots. If there are people that we can really, really make fun of, I'm not sure. I'm not sure that it's a problem for us, but just in terms of like casually watching, I was like, Oh, I feel this is, this is a little tough for me right now, but you know, I don't want to yuck on people's yums even though, you know, it's

a bit of a struggle for me right now. Um, so anyway, can we, let's talk a little bit of, let's talk about some stuff that's going on in the world of Bravo and beyond. Um, this is in no particular order. I just, you know, these are some of the big, big ticket items in the gossip world. Um, Denise Richards divorce, Denise and Aaron, I thought they were a forever couple. I mean, I thought they kept their magnets aligned and this was going to work out for them. What happened, Kiki? What, where's this all going?

I blame his family because I, I think there's no reason they should ever break up, especially him. He's, he's living on a gravy train. There's no reason he would ever want to leave especially him. He's, he's living on a gravy train. There's no reason he would ever want to leave Denise. She doesn't want to get divorced again. She's like comfortable. So she's happy. So it has to be that family that's living in one of the condos that she bought. That's exactly what I thought. Like literally I was thinking about, I was like those that there's a whole bunch, there's a whole family of freeloaders that are to have taken over

their house that have been there since the pandemic. It's got to be something. Because the only way you could be spending $10,000 in groceries is if you are buying it for that many people because like the $105,000 monthly nuts, okay? You're paying for so many people and I get it. Like she probably is, you know, taking care of her daughters because you know what? Lola works at a coffee shop. Like, I mean, she's like in a coffee shop and how she has like a, you know, a very like spiritual taco

Tuesday that she does. And then the other one is remember that when she was like, dear heavenly father, thank you for this taco Tuesday. And the other one's doing only, yeah, it has to be, it has to be because it seemed like everything was fine, but then he hasn't been working apparently for the past few months. I think that's what I read or as much as like, like conning, like rich people in Malibu to go to his like facility and like have magnets put on them, whatever, to test for cancer, like as much as that is a job, I don't think that he has a huge amount of income. But the thing is that like,

I don't think Denise would even care about that. And in fact, I was reading that Teddy and Erica have come to the defense of Denise because they sat on two tees on a pod. Like, yeah, Denise is like, does not want a divorce. She wants to make it work all the way to the end. So I think they, I may be misspeaking, but I think they are predicting that Aaron decided to make this call. Do you think Aaron would do this?

That would be very foolish of him unless he knew that he could get a big alimony, you know, settlement because that's the, that's the danger of keeping a kept person is once you get them acclimated to that lifestyle, yes, you technically have to keep them in that lifestyle. Now I will say they don't have any kids together unless he adopted Eloise, which I don't think he did, but I don't know. Otherwise, they don't have any kids together. So it's like, typically judges, I think, say, you have to maintain that lifestyle because if you, the kids come over, they expect a certain lifestyle as well. I shouldn't have

to maintain your lifestyle just because you like it. I mean, this is the most predictable outcome for this guy. I mean, he is, he's like a grown ass himbo, you know, he's, he's like hot. And you know, like when he was younger, he just, you know, he was probably like a pool boy. Like he would have been on love Island. I've given the chance back in like 1995, whenever. And you know, he, he like probably just slept his way around throughout throughout like Los Angeles. I'm not saying he did. I'm just saying like, he just seems like the type we've all seen them around the city.

These like hot guys that are like personal trainers and whatever. And they just go from like, you know, they're just like hired hands to go around and you know, he eventually like has enough of these ladies, uh, that he's able to build a client base to go to his whatever, whatever that, whatever that company is that he had where you had metals or magnets or whatever. He's able to do this full on fraudulent business. And then like, he's going to like attach himself onto a star and then divorce and get that money. Like I think

it was like the most obvious prediction. And the best part is, you know, in like two years, they're going to reboot Denise Richards, you know, and her wild things. And it'll be like, well, Aaron's coming over. We're a divorce. He, he sucked me dry, but you know, and her wild things. And it'll be like, well, Aaron's coming over. We're divorced. He sucked me dry, but you know, family's family. So Sunday night dinners. Am I right? I see. I more hope that since they're already, you know, trying to cast this next gen LA, I would love to just have Sammy and Lola be casted for next year in LA. We know the parents come in occasionally, then we get to see Denise interacting with her daughters while they're not talking to them, but then we get to hear her backstory that way.

And that, I just feel like we keep the story going that way. Speaking of next gen LA, the most important question of our time is who do you think should be on next gen LA? I think I read that the Dubros were pushing to have one or two of their kids. I'm sure they want the Dubros were pushing to have one of the one or two of their kids. I'm sure they want Nikki. Nikki, he's a realtor now with the Altman group. He has to be on this show. He's just fabulous. What other kids are there? I guess.

I want Brandi Glanville son because I want to see that happening. Yeah. Like I said, Denise Richards daughters, I would like to see Cynthia. I would like to see what Noel is up to because I just feel like, yeah, like she would be like the Riley of the group, like kind of just like, but I don't know again, like I do want there to be connection of some, some way, shape or form. Cause I think that's why NYC is working pretty well. Who else lives in LA? I mean, there has to be like the LA people that work for entertainment that we don't know yet that.

Yes, there's all those people. I don't want really any of Kyle's daughters. I'm just sort of like, I'm over there. There's too much of them. We see them on the, yeah. We don't need, we don't need them. And by the way, in the comments, please weigh in on who you'd like to see on next gen LA because I would love to hear that. I'm trying to think, is there anyone from Shaw's? No, no one from Shazza Sunset is of age. Their kids aren't old enough. I'm just imagining, I'm just imagining Kyle Richards putting like a little beret on Portia and like putting her face full of makeup and be like, go, you can be 22. You can do it. You can do it. You can play older.

Okay. I said no. I said none of Kyle Richards daughters, but actually, Portia could actually because she's right on the precipice. How old is she now? Like 17? I think she's 17. She's probably not older than that. I need them to be at least 21 and get a little bit of ratchet. Yeah. Someone on Instagram Alton said summer moon. I'm just imagining Sheena because Sheena would do that. She would dress up summer moon like she was in Clueless or something and be like, yeah, she's totally eligible.

I'm just imagining all these like fame craved people here just like trying to make their kids look older. What about, what about are the Hamlin sisters too old, which sounds crazy. Interesting, interesting. They're not too old, but I do think that they're too like cool. I don't like either too famous. Like they're like, yeah, they don't need it. They sort of do. No, but that would be a good one. I would like to see them. Yeah. Um, someone asks how old are Adrian's kids? Yeah. Adrian Maloof. Well, she said that she was, she said

that her sons were contact. It was, it was Cynthia Bailey and Adrian. They. Yeah, Adrian Maloof might get to you. Well, she said that her sons were contacted. It was Cynthia Bailey and Adrian. They said that they were both contacted. But so I could see Adrian. I don't know what, Adrian has what, three sons? I think so. And by the way, Taylor Armstrong, I think that Madison, her name is Madison, right? Okay.

There's an Armstrong child. Okay, I could see that. Is there a grammar that's around? Like a younger grammar, a younger grammar, maybe a post-Camille grammar that is in there. I don't know, this is actually like my favorite game now is to try to think about all the children that are like circulating around. There really are not as many on these shows.

I mean, Orange County, because people could come up from Orange County, because if Gia can come in from New Jersey to be in New York City, we can get some Orange County types, which... I just think there needs to be casting though, because there's kids that literally are in LA that like are from very famous families that we've never seen before because they've just been behind the scenes. And so we need a couple of those for just like that actual LA flavor. Yeah, Siri Cruz. I'm gonna say it right. Yes. Oh my god. That's the guess. She's in New York now though, right? She's a New Yorker. No problem. Whatever.

She can reunite with daddy. Okay. I still want to hear more. Oh God. Someone said Gina's daughter, Gina's daughter is too old and I feel like would not. I feel like Gina's she's like married to like a football player. She's like three kids. Yeah. Yeah. She's fine. Um, my everyone is going off in the comments. This is hilarious. Someone suggests Francois van Kempen. I mean, like, I know. Okay. Um, well, let's, let's move on from that. I still would like to entertain everyone's thoughts. Maybe we'll do something on social media, like, except, except solicitations for everyone can, can be, um, agents for these children and you can, you can act on their behalf, um, and advocate for them. It's time for commercial. It's time for a commercial.

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And he only told her because as she tells it in her memoir, in a memoir that she was reaching for the remote to turn on Real Housewives of New Jersey. And Brock said, wait a second, I've got something serious to tell you. Which by the way, great timing. Like before we watch the Real Housewives of New Jersey, okay, before we get into this,

let me just set the tone. Yeah. I cheated on you. Yeah. What did you think about all this? Oh, it's just like, it's so gut wrenching because like I start thinking forward because I start thinking, okay, is this person going to come forward? Right? And like, I

hope this is the only person that comes forward, right? Like, I hope you were very honest and you told her everything. And like, I just like start thinking of just like all the terrible things and I feel the worst because like, you know, she is the one that's going to have to like deal with this, even though obviously people are like shitting on Brock as they should because like it's terrible. Like the fact that she has to like deal with this, like she always like the thing about she and it's like people they feel so type of way about her, like they'll always attach things. Like I think that people will show up with rubik's cubes at places, you know, now just because you know what I'm saying? Just because just to clarify that she explained that she's like, I was so in shock. I wanted to scream, but

summer moon was sleeping. I didn't want to wake up summer moon. So I walked away and then I came back and I slapped him across the face and I threw a Rubik's cube at him, but he dodged it. I was like, of course the most hurt. Like I'm just imagining the scene of the Godfather where Talia Shire like destroys all the plates in the, in the house when she finds out about like Sunny's infidelity. But then when she, she knows version is I threw a Rubik's cube and that settled that. Yeah. But it's like now, you know, cause you go back now, because I think Bravo Investigator

has been like, you know, kind of replaying scenes from like season 11 now with a different lens knowing this. And it is, it is now interesting to kind of go back to Vanderpump rules and see because there were like arguments that Sheena and Brock were having that you felt were like, this doesn't feel like a real argument. And you realize, oh, that's because there was this whole other layer that none of us even knew about. That's right. They did. Yeah. Well, because it was, I'm trying to remember when, so the season got, it's hard. It's all a blur. This was like before, like the season where he cheated was before Scandival. Right. I should know this because

I actually just read Sheena's autobiography. I guess it happened during COVID, right? So they had felt like it happened during COVID while she was pregnant. And then, yeah, by the time they came back for season nine or ten, they had already, she had already had summer moon. Yeah. So it had to have happened before that. And then season 11 was when he told her, I think right before season 11. Is that, I think right before season 11 is that, I think that's the something. I think that's what it was.

I don't know. I, um, you know, it's like, I, it's like, I feel bad for Sheena, but she's also like, she just basically launched this right into the press. Like, so I am going on to Chelsea Devantes podcast, which you did, but also glorious trash. Yeah. And, uh, that podcast is all about, um, talking about celebrity, you know, memoirs, et cetera. And so, uh, I was recruited for Sheena's, which is coming out next week.

And there was a chapter towards the end of the galley that we had that was like, we, we were not given a chapter. It said the truth shall be revealed. And so I was trying to guess what it was, but I did not think it, I thought it was, I thought it'd be something about Scandiball or the Masked Singer, but it was this. It was this bombshell revelation. So she like went out of her way to like, not only like withhold it, but to make sure it had as big

of like a splash as possible. And you know what? She should because she's trying to sell those books. Like that's what it is. But like, you know, Sheena always winds up in these, in these shit storms, but like she's also like the shit storms are like, you know, they're funding their, their, their, their shit storms are with intention, you know? No, like that's why honestly, like I, when I look at how she's able to sort of like stay

relevant market herself, like I think it's actually genius. I think it's like a smart way to do it. And like, she's going to have haters. She's going to have people who love her. And then like, but like she just, she's just good at what she does. And I think that like, I can't not, I don't, I don't ever knock anyone's hustle. Like, you know, like if you're good at what you do, I respect it. Yeah. She goes for it. Um, yeah. Her, her autobiography, good at what you do, I respect it. Yeah, she goes for it.

Yeah, her autobiography, which I think, you read it also as well. Did you get a Galli? It's really something. It's really something special. I really highly recommend it to everyone to read. Because it's hilarious. I say that like for me,

because I am like a pop culture. Like I have grown up. It's all I like. I wanted to go to LA when I was a kid and just like, you know, the whole, like when TMZ was a kid and just like, you know, the whole like when, when TMZ was literally called 30 miles zone, you know, like I was like that person. I was like, it was so cool then the fact that she was there during that time and you get to hear all the stories of her in that time.

And she's, she's a hot young girl in, in that time. Like my experience would have been different during that time because I wouldn't have been a hot white girl during that time, like my experience would have been different during that time. Cause I wouldn't have been a white girl during that time. Like, you know, I was here during that time and I can tell you, my experience was very different as well. I was awkward closeted gay man. And I had a very different experience, but it was kind of amazing. You know, she tells stories like very sort of surface level stories

about like, and then I went to Joseph's nightclub and it was really fun, I would go in there and I met up with a friend and then she was really nice, we started working at a cigar club and we just had a really fun time together because I'm such a people pleaser. Every chapter just ends with her announcing that she's a people pleaser,

which is not unlike the TV show. How do you feel, by the way, how do you feel about Sheena's presence on the Valley this season? Because a lot of people are like, get her out of there. No Sheena on the valley. No, I mean, like I think that it's so like in scenes that make sense. She's connected to, there would be no reason she wouldn't be at certain of these parties because she's legitimately friends with these people. So it actually would be kind of weird if she

wasn't showing up to some of these parties. And so I think it makes sense. And honestly, like she's always going to say the thing that keeps it moving. It's like, she just says just enough to be like, because the fact that like Jessie's girlfriend even told her that story that she was able to relay, I always say to her, I don't know what your magic potion is that people just tell you things, but please, I want it because people people just like, they just spill the beans. There's something about her that she gets people comfortable and they just start telling her things. She is very disarming, I will say.

Speaking of the Valley, the Valley is white hot right now. It is like compelling, compelling TV. What are your thoughts on this season? And also someone was like, Kiki has to explain, fan it. So do you want to explain what needs to be explained? You know, it's so funny because I feel like I explain it, but I don't. I feel like the minute I say that I'm, I am friends with Janet, they, they stop listening. So I like, I can't go on. I guess I should start with over crappy hours over. We're canceling it. I'm loving the valley. Is it very dark and heavy?

Yes. And are there things where I just like, obviously recoil and cringe at? Absolutely. Do I, am I a Janet apologists by no means. But that said, I think Janet herself would admit like she looks at it and says like, Oh my God, I can't believe I did that. Like I, you know, like I can't speak for her, but I have to imagine she looks at it and is like, this is not cool. Here's the thing about me. And I feel like you could kind of, I'm not going to throw you in this bed, but

I feel like you could say this. Please do. I would love to be thrown into something. So like, you know that you've met people in real life and you've seen them on shows and the two people don't align always. I have met people that I see online. Everyone's like my fave, this person's she's a queen, all this stuff. And I've met them in person and they were assholes. Okay. I always take like how people treat me personally. That's how I, unless you do me wrong, I have no reason to say that. So in this case, the Janet that

I see on screen is not the person that I meet. Like when we hang out is not, that's the person I know. So until she does me personally wrong, I'm not gonna say the stuff she does on screen should change my opinion of her. Cause again, I've seen people who are on screen are like the nicest pie and in my face have been total dicks. So I'm kind of like, I know that this is like the magic of television. So until she does know? So I'm kind of like, I know that this is like the magic of television.

So until she does something, and I'm also, I would love to have a friend like me. I'm a loyal ass friend. I'm a Sagittarius. I'm like, you know what? Like if you're on death row, I'm going to like, I'm going to show up. Like you might be put to death. I won't do that. I'm a Sag, but I'm not going to do this.

I'll be like, well, it was great knowing you. Like, so by the way, do you have your house keys because do I have to water your plants? What do you have a plan for your plants? Like, I'm not gonna be Susan Sarandon sitting there at the against the glass, putting my fingers up and being like, no. That's a nice 30 year old reference to dead man walking.

But I agree, I've definitely found that there is like an interesting dichotomy. I am privileged to, this is a case where I actually don't know Janet and so I can actually form my opinion purely off of TV, which is always fun to be able to do. And I don't hate Janet as much as everyone else does. I think she's like a really fun villain. And I just think that like anyone who is like a fun villain,

I always sort of secretly like because I enjoy villainy. And I think that villainy has a place on Bravo shows and people get so mad and they should because we need our villains. And like without our villains, our shows fall flat. Hello, Roni reboot. So like, I, so I like Janet in the way that she's like a villain for us.

And I, I just just like her as this kind of like plain Jane villain that just comes into our lives. Like all the beige villain who comes in and drives everyone nuts. I think that's such an amazing phenomenon. So I'm like, I mean, I'm happy with it. I'm happy with Janet, the state of the state of the villainy. And someone in the comments here said something, which I really like, which is she said,

Kiki can like Janet, I refuse to. And I think that's what it's all about when you watch these shows. I think like, like we're allowed to like different people and hate different people. And like, it's about like, you know, having fun with that, that like that gap and like try and picking your sides and just, you know,

like as long as you don't take it too seriously, right? Yeah, no, that's the thing. Like I, I like my favorite part when I'm on reality check is when callers call in and absolutely disagree with me. Like it's more fun that way. I just like, you know, believe it or not, my feelings get hurt very easily. Like as like you're forced to like have this sort of like persona of like I work in media, like I can't let anything, but I get my feelings for hurt very easily. I don't care if you disagree with me and I love that when we disagree. I hate when you like discount my whole like reputation and personality is like, you don't know know why I listen to you. Because if you like that girl, then you must not know anything about anything. I'm like, what? Because of one disagreement we have, all of a sudden, all of my experience goes out the window. Yeah.

And also the thing is, like, if people change their minds, because, like, people may hate Janet this season, and the next season people say, you know what, I kind of like Janet. I think she's kind of like funny. And like, that's cool too, by the way. And you're totally allowed to do that. But like, if there's someone that I like kind of secretly like and or I enjoy on the show or whatever,

or especially if I know them and then I kind of like cater to what other people say because other people hate them. And then you, especially if you know them and then you might actually kind of burn a personal relationship. And then all of a sudden the audience is like, next season likes the person and then you've now burned a relationship and you

know, like, like, like that's kind of as a bummer. So like, you just just stand in your truth regardless of what everyone says. And again, I think that's like the fun part. I mean, love Island just wrapped up and so much of love Island is like picking your favorites and going with it. And you know, over the past few episodes here on crap it's while Ronnie's been away, some of our guests have been, I've been very pro ace and I'm very anti ace and people are upset. People are like really upset that like, that like, there's like, oh my

God, how could you bring on a pro ace person? But I'm like, this is the fun. Like this is the fun of reality TV is like going back and forth and like figuring it all out. You know, it is like, I don't even know. Again, my, I didn't watch Love Island, but my producer would just do recaps, which I felt like I watched the whole thing, but everything I knew about Ace, I was like, I don't like that guy. Yeah, no, I can't stand him for the record. I can't stand him. Can't stand this guy.

Um, uh, so by the way, so now going on to something else entirely, but like sort of in the same realm of where we're talking about, did you hear that there's a new Beverly Hills cast member or rumored? I don't know if it's a rumored confirmed or whatever, but we have a newbie that was I think spotted filming with everyone in Sedona, Arizona. Yeah, I saw that, you know, I never know what to believe because I'm always like, also people could just sometimes show up on trips. It doesn't mean they're necessarily a full-time cast member, but you know. Yeah. This is Christine Blackman who is Kyle Richards friend. How do you feel about this? Where do you stand on Kyle Richards by the way? Are you like pro Kyle? Are you anti Kyle? Does it make you excited that Kyle has a friend or does it make you angry that she has backup? Okay. So not to make this, I don't want to turn everything into a long story, but I have a background story.

You have to do it. I've gone back and forth with Kyle because it shows been on so long. Like I loved Kyle when she came on when Brandi came on though and her and Kim bully her. I was like, I hate the Richard sisters for them, you know, like whatever, whatever. And then recently I've just kind of like, she's like the longest running housewife, she's there and I don't know, like I don't know if I had a feeling. I get invited to this event where it's at the Beverly Hills Hotel and I'm told it's a very small event and they invited maybe like eight influencers and they say, we're

going to be watching an episode of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills with one of the Beverly Hills housewives. And I was like, oh, how fun in the Beverly Hills hotel. Great. Whatever. Now I work in media. So I got the screener of the episode. So I was like, let me watch it before. Cause I had to go on air the next day. And I knew if we watched it in a group, I wouldn't be paying attention. So I was like, let me watch the episode before I get to the hotel so I can know what happens. Yes. I watched the hotel. It's the episode where we find out Kyle's friend had died by suicide.

So I was like, Oh my gosh, I was like, this is creepy. Why would they make this the watch party? Okay, go on. I don't know if it had just been pre-planned or whatever and they didn't know what episode it was going to be. So I, so I immediately go, well, clearly Kyle is not going to be the housewife because that would be crazy, right? Get to the hotel, who shows up Kyle. I literally, my heart sinks because I'm like, we are going to the hotel, who shows up? Kyle. Hi. I literally my heart sinks because I'm like, we are going to have to watch this episode together. But she comes in and she didn't even know it was going to be that episode. And so she says to us, she's like, um, you

know, I just watched the episode and I just found out anyways, I'm going to say is like, we watched the episode together. You know, the eight, 10 of us in the room, like she had her friend, you know, we're crying. We're like, anyways, it felt like a very healing moment. She probably doesn't even know my name, but what I'm saying is in that moment, I feel like anybody else would have just canceled the night. The fact that she stayed and watched this with us with some strange, eight strange influencers who she had no idea. It made me, I don't know, it changed my opinion of her. Cause again, I think that she could have easily said, I gotta go.

Right. She kept her obligation to you guys, which was, I guess that is commendable or it's just speaks to Kyle's, you know, uh, like her dedication to, uh, controlling the narrative of her story. But, um, I, I, I think, you know, I know what you're saying. I think that is actually, you know, that's, that's a tough one to watch with, like with, with quote unquote, the bloggers, the bloggers to be aware of, be aware of the bloggers. That's the big story in Orange County these days. Did you like the premiere by the way of Orange County? I did. I think there was like a lot, like I think like people who don't spend a lot of time chronically

online like we probably do maybe needed a little bit of like a catch up to be like what's happening but I felt like we can kind of got through that and hopefully we'll move through the rest of the season you know. Yeah. Yeah, there was like a little bit of whiplash as I was like trying because it was like three different like scandals happening with like bloggers and podcasters who seem to be on content creators who seemed to all just be lumped into this category of bloggers. Um, but I was like, okay, but I love that. I felt like Bravo didn't actually really promote orange County. Uh,

it's returned very strongly, which is just surprising to me. I just felt like I saw so much stuff for McBee and like nothing for Miami, nothing for OC and I just need my Bravo to remember where the milk, the cow is, what is it, where the milk is milked. With clove milk. Yeah, I know, I agree. Like the promotion by McBee has been very, very heavy. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, like way too heavy, I think. But anyway, going back to Beverly Hills, did you see this crazy rumor that has been shot down? But in my mind, I'm still holding on hope that it actually is true about Fay Resnick and Jennifer Tilly. So do you want to tell people what you've, what you've heard about the rumor? You want to explain to people is that supposedly Jennifer Tilly and Fay Resnick get into it to a point where

Jennifer Tilly smashed, smashes a glass. And I don't remember the exact line. She says something about like, you don't know who you're messing with. What, what was the line? Yeah. It was like, it was like, you don't know who you're messing with. Resnick or something like that. Which, when you hear that, like, can I hear Jennifer Tilly doing that? Absolutely.

As a joke, like, where they're somewhere, you know, and like they have some fun and it's like a fun thing that happens. I can't imagine her ever doing that as a serious thing. I know I can't and they both came out like relatively quickly and were like, no, like we love each other. We like, I can't think of someone better in the world, which you know, I don't know if that's true, but they both like, we did not get into a fight. And I'm like, you know what, like maybe like take like, we all got excited by it. So maybe consider it. The season is not done. I, you know, like be open, be open to getting

into an altercation, because I think I would really enjoy a Tilly versus Resnick fight. Because that's the thing, like there's a lot, there are some accounts who just post full on lies, like just for clicks, like you, and you know, when you throw it right away. Sometimes though, there is a truth to it, but it's not in the way that we have heard it.

Like it's been a game of telephone. So like, obviously the cast members don't want storylines spilled because it makes the season more fun anyway. So it's like, if there was an event where something like that happened, let's just see if it plays out. Cause it could just be like, it could have been a joke and like, you know, who knows what it could have been. Yeah.

I, um, uh, yeah, someone in the comments just said, we'll never see drama like that on Beverly Hills again. I mean, I, yeah, that's probably true. I mean, you know, the days of Rinna smashing that glass in Amsterdam was pretty epic. I would love to have a big dramatic moment like that again on Beverly Hills, but they really are, they are so, they just operate in such a, such a mannerly way, like quote unquote mannerly

way, even when they are yelling at each other, like you're not going to get, you're not going to get that moment on that, on that franchise. So get it on Salt Lake, you'll get on Miami and you'll get on Orange County, I think. Yeah. They're too polished and curated. Like this is why we get sort of like when we go into these little, the Mormon wives, or we go into these other towns where people are just kind of like, I'm willing to be on TV and I'm willing to do what it takes to be on TV and they don't have a team yet. We'll get that. Yeah.

I know. I know. It's like, it just would be so fun to see that on Beverly Hills again, but it's going to be a while. What do you think about Rachel Zoe coming onto the cast? Um, you know, I think it's exciting for the viewers, so I'm excited for that. You know, I think people who have been watching Bravo as long as we have, like, we just know the history of her. So I think we're excited to see and obviously the drama of like, you know, Dorit being the only one she allegedly doesn't follow and like the fact that the drama of like, you know, Dorit being the only one she allegedly doesn't follow.

And like the fact that the two of them could have beef is kind of like, I'm into that. Yeah, I think it'd be fun if they just brought back all the like 2000s era Bravo stars, like Jonathan Anton, maybe Helga Patrone. I don't know if they can work Paul Abdul in there in any way that makes sense, but like there's a lot of people from around 2004 or five

on Bravo that we could like get into the mix, you know, get some people, get like a what's her face from Charlie's Angels, because she was the host of Sheer Genius. Like everyone's a candidate, you know, for Beverly Hills. Right? Like I would, yeah, I would love to see a hodgepodge of those old school, like does any of them come back?

It would be amazing. Yeah, Tabatha, just add Tabatha into the mix. Tabatha is the best. Um, speaking of, I have no good transition for this. Just to say Miami is always doing so well, like in terms of as a franchise, we have a new cast member, Stephanie. What do you think about Stephanie?

And did you see a little, there was a minor dust up about her. She had a clap back on Instagram against the user today. Did you see any of that? I saw, I just saw some people, like I saw people were screenshotting. She, I guess she did a Q and a or AMA or whatever. And like, I just had Stephanie on reality checked and Dorinda, cause even Dorinda, so Dorinda was like, I don't know how I'm going to feel about her, but we have her on the show. And Dorinda was like, Oh, you know, I kind of like her, but then sort of stories started coming out and she was

kind of like, huh, is there any truth to that? I will say like, she was lovely. Like she's fun. She was like spilling tea, which, you know, they made us kind of not get rid of cause she was spilling too much tea. But you know, like I thought she was really fun. Like she's super young. She read older on screen to me, but she's like obviously super young. But look, maybe that's because she dresses like Jackie Oh, she has a little Chanel suit. But if his ex wife and the daughters start coming out and they do start speaking to the

blogs like about their stories, I don't know, it might be a rough ride because I don't, you know, whatever history is happening. There's just no way that these these people are going to have a real house as a Miami career and all these skeletons are not going to come surfacing. I mean, if you're working in real estate, there are going to be lawsuits, there's going to be complaints, there's going to be like, Oh, they owe debt. It's just like, we just see it, we know it. And she talks so much about money and how business, business, business. And she's powerful. And I love business that you just know the bottom is going to fall out. And I'm really excited for that. But

I'm also excited for the pre bottom falling out because I think, I think she's like perfectly obnoxious and I like that she's kind of bossy and I love that she laid into Lisa. Um, but so the, the, the small dust up is that on her story, someone, uh, she put on her, on Instagram, she said like ask, you know, ask her, tell me something with a heart and someone goes, you slept your way up. So she responded by making a story where she said, if sleeping your way, way up worked, you'd be on top two. So what happened? Because by the looks of your profile, you slept yourself to the Walmart clearance

aisle, not a good look to go after the, after the viewers. I think old school days. I mean, this is hard to back to old school days. I mean, Rihanna used to pop off on Twitter. Like we loved that. It was amazing. And so like, I don't mind when a new housewife goes off, but I do, when I see a new housewife show up with a private plane, I always go, cause I just, I, I, we've seen too much fake wealth where I'm just like, I don't want this to

come bite you. Like just don't show the private planes. And also we know there's clearly an IRS division dedicated to real housewives watching. They're counting your dollars. Like I would just be terrified to show up at the private plane. Be careful. Um, also on Miami, um, another controversy is comes from Martina Navratilova, who, you know, this lady, she's like, you know,

I don't want Julia to be the only one with a villain at it. This season, clearly part of this. So, um, she tweeted, she like regrammed something about egg donations and she tweeted, surrogacy is just wrong. Sometimes you can't have it all. This is well, not only is that wrong, but like, really, you're gonna be the one to do this while you've dragged us through an adoption storyline, both human and goat for like two years. I don't want to hear it. I don't like, no, you should support your, your fellow families that are trying to have a child through surrogacy. I think it's obviously totally fine. And I don't know why she decided to have this hot

take out of nowhere, especially when so much of her storyline is about building up a family. The way I have turned on Julia and Martina in the last few weeks, I'm just like, I feel like they are now elitist who believe that like, I can have this, but like, what are you doing? Like looking down on people and like, how dare you? And I definitely was, had the worst taste in my mouth when this last episode, they put

up pictures of their adopted black sons. That sent me into a place of like, what are we doing here? Because you were so private about it. Now you're showing them off. Like they didn't. Yeah, I don't know. I just, everything about it gave me a bad taste. But then on top of it, like essentially your boss, let let's face it, Andy Cohen is your boss and you're

going to say it's not for everyone. Okay. Well, I hope you enjoy not having a job next year because what? No, gross. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And as Mallory points out in the comments, Martina also has a history of being anti-trans as well, which has come out over the past few years. So like Martina's hot takes, you know, maybe we don't need them as much anymore. Ever again. No, no, I don't. Yeah. I used to love these two on, on the show and uh, the Julia in terms of Julia,

I think that she got the bug where she was like, I think I'm on, she's like on the chopping block. So she's going to do some outrageous stuff. And she did, she went, she did it wrong. She did it all wrong. And now the audience has turned on her totally. Yeah. And like rightfully so. Like I literally, I'm like, there's no, I I'm trying to see any, any possible, no, there's just no redemption here.

And yeah, like whatever happening is what's happening on screen and also what's happening in real time. I'm like, I've just lost all. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So right now it is time to turn things over to the audience. And what we usually do here is that we stop the audio recording, but we keep the YouTube going, I believe, I think that's how it goes. Ronnie normally controls this part, so I'm excited.

I'm controlling the operations. So to everyone who is listening on the Crappin's Feed, thank you so much for listening. Thank you, Kiki, for being here, although you're gonna stay on with us here after this audio portion is done. And remember, we do Crappy Hour every two weeks, so if you missed it, come join us on YouTube or on Instagram, we do Mondays.

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