Watch What Crappens - #2931 RHOM S7E6 Part 1: Narcs and Recreation w/ Amy Philips

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

This is part one of a two-parterThis week on The Real Housewives of Miami Lisa gets dogpiled at Alexia’s narcissism party, but in the end, she and Larsa find a way to bury the hatchet.  Special guest Amy Phillips (Drama Darling) joins Ben to break it all down. You can watch this recap on video, listen to our Love Island bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today in place of Ronnie, please welcome back the one and only Amy Phillips from Drama Darling. Hi Amy, how are you? Hello, I'm great. It's so nice to see you again. Oh, it's great to have you here, especially

because today we're doing Real Housewives of Miami and you have a pink neon sign behind you, which feels very Miami. It is. You're set. Yeah, you clearly, are you broadcasting from Miami Beach right now, South Beach? I am, I'm in South Beach.

I just, I took Stephanie's private jet because I had some dogs to pick up. So I went ahead and, um, she was able to pick me up in Santa Clarita, uh, and, uh, Danny and I, yeah, we left here. Now we're in, you know, Miami and we're going to be remote this week. Great. I'm so happy to hear that. Um, I, I'm so glad that you found a proper Miami theme set for your Miami visit.

Thank you. And I've got my shirt on as well that's popping some, I feel like Miami colors, you know? You know, you're smart. I'm also wearing stripes. We're both wearing stripes. You are wearing Miami colors. I am wearing just a random like, like, like, navy and white sort of nautical look. Yeah, it is nautical. I love it. I love a nautical look. We're like, naughty... I'm a naughty cow.

Ha-ha-ha, naughty cow. If you look at the cow, fortunately the cow doesn't really make sense, part of it. This is actually, if you're looking at it, this is one of the first t-shirts I ever made for myself. We know that from your originals? Yeah. This is when I was first started to sew and you can tell because you can see this crazy white line that's around the collar. Can't see it from here. Oh, I see it now. Well, you're pointing it out. I mean, you're stretching

the material. You're, it looks so good. I was going to mention that the collar is such a great style. I love the style of the collar is such a great style. I love the style of the collar and you created that. Thank you. Wow. Yeah, well, you know what? I like to think that when I'm not podcasting, I'm innovating fashion.

So thank you for recognizing my hard work over here. You're welcome. Please, and please, please tell the people in Miami. I just get really emotional when we talk about your work and like people's work and just like working and stuff, you know? It's, yeah, you are like Stephanie Shojai who just loves work. Shojai Massoud, yes.

I don't know. Is that how you say your last name? Shojai? Shojai Massoud? Well, no, you're right. I don't know. His name is Massoud. I don't know how to pronounce her last name.

So I think you're right on that. Okay, let's call her Steph S. Steph S, I have to say, I have, since we recorded last week, I have had your Gina voice in my head, and I have been laughing at intermittent times of you doing that, like escalating Gina voice. It is my favorite.

So I really recommend, in case you missed it, everyone go back and listen to the Orange County season premiere just to hear Amy's impersonation of Gina, which was so, so, so funny. And I apologize if it hurts your ears. And please just, you know, it, it, I think I tailor it down a little bit towards the middle, just so as a respectable, you know,

voice on not my podcast. So I just want to make sure I'm not hurting your listener's ears, darling. sure I'm not hurting your listeners. Here's Sterling. Listen, these are Crappens listeners. They've had to endure all my weird noises for years and years. I love your listeners. Don't you worry.

You are in a safe space. I got so many followers. I got like so many people. They're so nice. Like I don't have any time. I've been welcomed into the Crappens universe. Everyone just really is is very embracing. So thank you.

Well, you are welcome here. And in fact, everyone should go subscribe to Amy's podcast. Before we dive into this Miami recap, everyone go subscribe right now, Drama Darling, available on all platforms, and follow Amy Phillips on all social media, on Instagram. What's your handle on Instagram and Twitter or wherever you are?

Oh yeah, at meet Amy Phillips, you know, and I'm teetering. I'm at like 98.8 and I'm teetering. So push me over the edge, push me over the edge. And that's at Meet Amy Phillips. And then of course Drama Darling Show is also on Instagram. Great. I am teetering. I'm teetering in general, like no matter what I do.

Whatever the context, I'm teetering. But I'm teetering. But I'm, I'm tutoring at 40,000. I'm just trying to hit 50K because I hear that you can get cool influencer things at 50K. You can like make cool videos and stuff. Yeah. That's what I've heard. Whoa. Okay. Yeah. Because because last summer I did like an influencing video for Quest bars and it was so much fun. And I was like, I want to do more of these little videos because I just enjoyed making a video.

And then I was told, yeah, you basically need more followers. So that's my way of saying people follow me too. Yeah. Let's stop teetering. Let's get our teets up and let's get some followers. Let's cross that line. Yours is an easier goal to hit than mine.

Mine, I'm actually asking for a solid 10K more people. You just need like 2K and then you're dead. We'll see, we'll see, we'll see. All right, teats up everybody. Teats, no more teetering. We wanna stand in our truth on the other side of those numbers. So today we are talking Miami,

we are not talking, I'm not bringing you back to Orange County because Ronnie's gonna be back for Orange County. He's finally making his grand return for the Orange County next second episode. What do you think so far about the Miami season before we dive in? Oh, I mean, I love Miami.

I love it so much. I absolutely love Stephanie. I am very much here for her. At first, I was like, okay, another kind of felt like Vicki Gondelson was like, another bitch I got to like, and then also another bitch that's like keeps talking about her Birkins. I'm like, are we still obsessed with Birkins as a rich person? Can we move on from that? You're so rich, do something original. Let's stop with the Birkins. Let's put them in your glass closets with locks

and just move on. Get something different to talk about. So it was really put off by her at the beginning about the Birkin. Also, taking the private jet to go pick up the dogs. I was like, does Florida really need that much extra fuel spilled on their heads like at the beach? But probably not.

But then she read Lisa in that Sprinter van for being late like a school marm. And I am now full steam ahead with Stephanie. Yes, we are not teetering on her. She's very marm forward. She's, and I loved it. Oh my God. When she, when she just berated Lisa about being late, do you think your time is more important than mine? Do you think your time is better than all? I thought that was so great.

That was so wonderful. And, uh, I was actually a little sad that in this episode you kind of pulled back a little bit. She was like, you know, I'm just, I was like, no, live in that state. Keep that, keep your foot on, on the pedal. But you know, Lisa got plenty of, she, Stephanie didn't even need to do that because she got it from all angles this episode. And it was hilarious. She even got it from a host from a restaurant, which is something we rarely see. I know. And a restaurant that was actually looked pretty empty. Except for that lady.

You were holding a meditation retreat. I know. Okay, so we're picking up in that Sprinter van after Stephanie has just torn a new one into Lisa. By the way, I've not had coffee today. So who knows if I'm even gonna be able to, like I'm just praying. I'm praying.

Those stripes on your shirt are gonna give you all the energy you need, okay? I know, just lean into the stripes, nautical energy. Okay, it's like, you know, stripes are the new crystal. Okay, they're just gonna give me healing energy. Stripes are the new crystals. People are going to bring stripes to the reunion. Um, cause going to drop some on the floor. So then, uh, so they are heading down. They had this place called Villa Toscana, which I guess maybe it's an event space, whatever has all these nice gardens and everything. And Daniel, the self help expert is there and he's wearing a little crown and you know, because it's, it is as one would expect a

Greek gods and goddesses anti narcissism party, like 10 of those. Yeah, I just hit the streets the other day in anti-narcissism protest. It was really great. A lot of thousands of people turned up. Oh yeah, did you make a sign? Yeah, everyone had flags and they put them all on Lisa's face or bucket.

We, everyone had, I went to that protest as well, anti-narcissism protest. And yeah, we did, we then shoved all of our, our signs into like a, when we got rid of them, we just put them in a big box. I said, Lisa, it's Hoxdeen. Yeah. She had her face on the signs. I think we made an impact. I think so. I think we're making changes. When Jodie Foster got up on that stage and spoke her truth, I said, yes. Everyone here who has been affected by Lisa Hockstein,

raise your red flags. I don't know. I think my Jodie Foster and Sheena impression are the same. I'm so glad, because I didn't even know you had a Jodie Foster impersonation. You were just ready. You were like, here it comes. It is fun.

It is fun when you get put on the spot and have to do a prominent actress impersonation. You know? A makeshift prominent, yeah. Yeah, like a Holly Hunter, like a Holly Hunters. Holly Hunters, I am speaking out today against narcissism and pro-Greek culture. We won't let these people destroy us.

Down with all the narcs. It's incredible how these narcissists, they just try to take us down. And I did a movie with John Goodman. I did 1800 movies with John Goodman and he's an excellent narcissist. Which makes sense. That's why he got the role of King Ralph. And I am stretchy girl in that movie, Incredibles. Do you remember me from my feature film broadcast news, which was where we were broadcasting news about narcissists. That's where I really was turned on about it

Yeah, and and also I was in that Movie where I was in the desert and I think Nicolas Cage was in it Was it called again? It was a huge hit huge hit. Yeah, I believe it was called Raising Arizona, but original title was raising narcissists. Yes Yeah, and now they're gonna to actually do a reboot called Raising Larsa-sists. We're still waiting for the script. It's been in development hell. Because Larsa wrote it.

Yeah. Everyone's best friend and she wrote it. I wrote like, I like wrote like a script like. I thought you guys would like to read it like. Larsa, Larsa, Larsa pitching a Hollywood movie. That's a somehow a sequel about raising Arizona. I can see it. I can too.

She's going to get the platform. She's going to get the opportunities and she's going to come in and she's going to be like, so glad you're all here. And they're going to be huge, huge producers and they're going to be like, why are we here? Yeah. Somehow she'll get like Spielberg. She'll get Spielberg in the room. She'll get Ron Howard. They're there. They're all there. A24 lining up. It's like Jurassic Park meets Racing Arizona.

So like it's a couple and they steal a dinosaur like, but it's like not their fault because like if you don't want the dinosaur stolen, like why do you even have the dinosaur? I thought the first place, you know how Lars's voice changes from like, she if you don't want the dinosaur stolen, like why do you even have the dinosaur out there with the first place? You know how Larsa's voice changes from like, she does like, she has her Kardashian voice, but then when she gets mad, her real voice comes out. Yeah.

That's my favorite part about her. You're so right. She does. She like morphs into the real Larsa. Real Larsa comes out. Yeah. It's scary. I just saw Sinners and that was a movie about vampires.

And as many people know, cause it's like a worldwide hit and I'm just acting like people have never seen it, but it's a movie about vampires. And that's like Larsa's voice is like, she's sweet and seductive when she's asking to be led into the barn. But when you don't let her in, like her real voice comes out. Like her voice.

Sorry everybody, that was just shocking. Well, you need to go back in and do like a trigger warning for that. That was about pretty accurate. When Larissa gets mad, she's like, Lisa, I don't think you understand. Let me in like. So anyway, they're arriving here. Let me in like.

So anyway, they're arriving here. We've got Daniel who is clearly someone that they should turn to for advice on narcissism because he's written like six coy expressions on a mirror. And so I think that makes him very qualified to deal with these things, right? Coy expressions, yes. on a mirror. And so I think that makes him very qualified to deal with these things, right? Cori expressions. Yes, and he may have written his blurbs on TikTok.

We don't know. Yeah. We don't know, but yeah, he's definitely qualified. Yeah, he's written such gems as, never try to defend yourself against a narcissist because they already know you're right. Ooh, that's a good one they already know you're right. Oh That's a good one

That's like so right like that's like so right like or maybe like Don't make a snack for a narcissist because they already were hungry and already ate That's true, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That one is very good. That's a very good one. Is that Gertie? That was Gertie. That was Gertie cosigning. She was cosigning. Yes. She's so fast. Boy, she went past those mirrors really quickly. She can read as fast as she can talk. She really burned through that anti-narcissism content. She's like, okay, so nobody gets

angry that a narcissist being accused of something they did, that's absolutely true. Oh, no, never try to defend yourself against a narcissist. They already know what they're right. That's true too. Never give a banana to a narcissist because they might not need it. That's true too. I hate wasting a banana on a narcissist. Okay, which is the next mirror, please? Oh my gosh, I've never heard you first. So funny. Damn, you were killing me last week with your Terry Dubrow. And now I'm dead.

The Terry Dubrow thing, I was like, to me, that's like not, this is so like inside the actor studio. I was like, but the Terry Dubrow thing was like not even like a, an impersonation that I even thought was like a thing. And you were dying and it was like tickling me so much. Cause it's like Terry Dubrow. I don't even remember what I did. Good. I can't. It's so good. I like, I've never heard anyone do a Terry Dubrow and it's like perfection. Okay.

I'm sorry. But anyway, I love this skill set for me. Yeah. Like what makes you qualified Ben Mandelker for this job? I can do a good Terry Dubrow impersonation. We're going to pitch a movie and it's going to be starring Terry Dubrow, Larsa Pippen. We'll keep working with the casting, but then, you know, we've got to get this. I don't know if Heather's going to make it. Unfortunately, Heather has other obligations.

She will be appearing on the reboot of Hot in Cleveland. HEATHER LAUGHS Okay. So, yeah, they walk into this garden, and there's mirrors everywhere, and they all have sort of like, meme kind of anti-narcissism quotes on them, like sayings or phrases, things that make you...

Things that you would remember. Um, what were those cards that people would send to those virtual cards that people would send to each other that were like very sassy? It was like, it was always like a, it was an image of like a lady in the fifties. And it was always something like my friend said, where's the wine? And I said, well, I just had lunch. Like that's what they all the car. Talking about now. Yeah. That like older lady who like, she always has a bunch of bags maybe or something.

She's like, so I went to the store and got a lot of stuff. So what? You know, it's just like, yeah, you're right. It's narcy. Like we're fine. Like as women, we're coming into our own of like, F you. You know? Yeah.

It is like the source of all of Marisol's humor, by the way, also. You are so right. It is like the source of all of Marisol's humor, by the way, also. You are so right. I truly cannot get enough. Frankly, quite frankly, not enough. When Marisol sits down for her inside the Actors Studio, they're like, Marisol, where did you develop your sense of humor?

Oh, honey, it was e-cards all the way. Right. Oh, my mother used to send me e-cards when she didn't want to talk to me. So they're funny. I mean, you know, between going for E-cards and trying to get some D, I really learned how to get some comic skills.

Sometimes I used to just open up the paper and just read cat the cartoons Sometimes I used to just open up the paper and just read Cathy cartoons. And cartoon. Chocolate, chocolate, chocolate. Am I right? Ag. Arg. Steve.

Oh man, I would love a Cathy reboot. That was just Marisol. Oh, it was Ag. It's Ag, not Arg. It's Ag. That's what it is. Yeah, but Marisol would say Arg. Yes just Marisol. Oh, it was Ag. It's Ag, not Arg. As Ag. That's what it is. No, but Marisol would say Arg. Yes.

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And like what did you notice was like the Johnny Depp, like written in blood one from the Amber Heard trials? He was like, we're done. Oh, that's a good one, Johnny Depp. No, but do you remember that from the trial, Holly, like you wrote in blood? Yeah. He's a strange person. Anyway, he made it into the Miami blood. Yeah, he's... Sorry to take his dark. He's a strange person.

Anyway, he made it into the Miami recap. Okay, sorry. I would love it. No, not only did he make it... You don't have to apologize. We've already brought Jodie Foster and Holly Hunter into this mix. Sure.

Bringing all the A-listers. Welcome in. Yes, welcome. So they all are... No one really is very impressed with these mirrors. They're like, oh, okay, interesting. That's cool. All right.

By the way, Adriana is eyeing the self-help guy. I've already forgotten his name. What was his name? I wasn't George. Not George, Daniel. Because he's hot. So she's like, oh, I mean, the guy's hot. I mean, if I wasn't with Frenchie,

I'd sure be going for Australian tonight. I mean, you're gonna find me down under. I mean, I'd like to play that didgeridoo. I'll put that Joey in my sack, you know? Good day, mate. Put that shrimp on my Barbie. That's not a knife. This is a knife.

I'll eat your dingo, baby. I don't know what that was, but okay. That would actually be very helpful because that dingo did a lot of damage. So, you know, it's good that someone would eat the dingo in turn. And then the dingo would learn. Revenge. Other dingoes. Uh-huh. Take note. Take note, dingoes.

Read those mirrors, dingoes. The original narcissist dingoes. Dingoes. Dingoes. So narcissistic. So narcissistic, eh? Yeah. So, um, Alexia's saying that they like this party is not about Todd, but like, sorry, but yes, Todd, remember that episode where she didn't know how to say Todd's name?

She was like, Todd, Todd, Todd, He's like, babe, it's called Todd. It's Todd. Just say Todd. Toad. Toad. She's like, trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr they're women because they're all a bunch of narcissists, which is very true actually. It's like really right on the money, this group, 100%. So then Daniel, he starts reading a quote. He's like, all right, everyone who wants to,

he wants to hear a quote about narcissism. Let's walk this. It goes like this. I like to tee up my narcissism quotes because you guys are all narcissists and probably aren't listening to me. A little something like this. Hit it. I'll give you a beat.

Oh thanks. Good people get tired of being good to ungrateful people. You've been cured. Drop the beat, drop the narcissism. Ah. Daniel. Yeah, he's so wise. He's so wise.

Good people get tired of being good to ungrateful people. Wow, I mean, if this person understands the root of narcissism, like if he doesn't, then I don't know who would because this right here is a mastery of a concept. It truly is. The words are blending together. I don't even know what it means anymore because they're all so generic, but I'm like, he could say anything to any of these ladies and they'd be like, yeah, that's true. He's like, oh, narcissism is somebody who likes to give to charities and is selfless in everything they do. Wow.

That's so true. That's so true. Gotcha. Gotcha. Wow. That was like really wise. So then they go, now it's another mirror that says, the problem with being empathetic is that you feel sorry for the people that hurt you.

And Gertie is like, oh my God, that is so true. I mean, I absolutely feel that way. And the fact that this is a narcissist theme party says a lot because obviously, I can't, because I think that's like, we have a lot amongst us. We have a lot of narcissists, okay? And then it cuts to Lisa, and she was the only one looking at these mirrors to look at herself. And everyone else is reading the quotes off of them,

and she's like checking out her hair in the mirror, and I was like, oh my God, I love this show. It's too good. Like, you can't even write something this great. She genuinely was like, oh my God, I love this show. It's too good. Like, you can't even write something this great. She genuinely was like, I thought I saw her with some Windex, like, wiping off the sang so she could actually see herself better. You know? Can I wipe this down? Just a shammy?

I don't think she even realized there were words there. She just didn't see anything. She just was looking at her reflection. Right. She was didn't see anything. She just was looking at her reflection. Right. She was like Mulan. Mulan, yes. I love, yeah. Isn't that that's, isn't there a song? Isn't that a Christina Aguilera song?

Like, what does my reflection say about me or something like that? Yeah, yes. I know what you're saying. I'm picking up what you're laying down. Thank you. It goes something like this. It goes, look in the pond and you see yourself in the colors of the wind.

Wait, we're mixing up Disney movies. It's Holly Hunter doing Pocahontas. Have you ever seen the wolf cry to the blue corn moon? Cause I have. I live in Montana now. I don't know if she does, but I feel like she probably does. 100%. My whole country definitely lives in Wyoming.

She's one of those, one of those, one of those celebrities. It's like, yeah, I live in Jackson Hole now. I just fly in when I got to do something for Hollywood. Yeah, I live in Jackson Hole now. I just fly in when I gotta do something for Hollywood. Every Thursday I have coffee with Frances McDormand down by the General Store, because we're normal people. And then we fly to Hollywood to do Hollywood things, but we come back, we're normal people.

And we say things like this, hi, Jan, to the people who are walking by, because we're just one of the folks. That's what we do. We just go out on our land, because we're just one of the folks. That's what we do. We just, you know, go out on our land because we have a lot of land there and we just like live off the land. Sometimes we just set up a bonfire and just have some s'mores. Yes, read poetry, sing songs by Stephen Schwartz for Pocahontas, one of our favorites. Favors. And obviously when we get our call to come in to Hollywood, we just drop all that.

And the next thing I know, I'm in Glam and I'm Holly Hunter, the actress, the one that didn't say anything for what I got an Oscar for in that movie, I didn't say one word, piano. It's a piano. Fun fact, I hate piano piano band for my ranch guitars only And maybe an occasional mandolin Just like Bruce Hornsby in the range would sing mandolin rain great song

Great man Sean Goodman loves Alan What's made love to Bruce Hornsby Back of a margaritaville When I was shooting a sizzle wheel for her my upcoming reality show called that's howly It was a sizzle reel and it was it's working its way around Hollywood that sizzle and turns out everyone thought it was Holly Madison. And so they gave it a go. And then they saw it was me when I flew in from Montana.

No, hard no. They replaced me with a younger actress named Tate Addison McCray or something like that. I'm not sure. Wow, Holly has a lot to say. A lot, shut up. Shut up already, Jesus. Narcissist.

Shut up. Narcissist. Narcissist. So yeah, Lisa's looking at herself in the mirror to completely missing all this stuff. And then she's also, like, she's found a flower swing and she's now just having a photo shoot. Like Marisol's just taking photos of her while everyone is like reading stuff

about narcissism. Lisa's on there like with a finger in her mouth, smiling and being sexy and like the flowers and she's like fully turning it into a, uh, a promotional shoot for her Instagram. Yeah. And I also taking a page out of Lisa Vanderpump's book, you know, like, oh, watch where you're stepping because you might get LVP cease and desist. Yeah, exactly. You know, please don't bring down Lisa's flower swing brand because she worked very hard for that.

Extremely. Andy, I was recently scrolling on Instagram and I saw Lisa, another Lisa on a flowered swing. Uh. Oh God, she's happy. Andy, you're supposed to fill in the gap when I go to the uh. So you say something now. That's when you're supposed to apologize. the gap when I go to the. So you say something now. That's when you're supposed to apologize.

That's my ellipses. So another mirror says, you don't always have to tell your side of the story. Time will. And Stephanie's like, oh, that's so me. That is a hundred percent me. Says the woman who has spent the past two episodes telling her side of the story,

like every single thing, extensively. She's like, you want to hear a story about how my parents met? This is my version of it. Like everything is like that with her. It's so right. It's like, is this a date line? Why is, why are we going back to you? And why do you have to keep like telling your side? You're so right. Everything is like that. So, um, but Stephanie and Lisa have like a little bit of mo like, this is where they kind of like make nice and everything. And Stephanie's being like all nice to her. And Lisa's like, you know, like, wow, you, you, you really went in on me on the bus. Like, you know,

now you don't want to talk like what's going on here. She's like, Oh God, like, I'm sorry. I just like, I apologize. And like, I've no, I have no problem apologizing again. I know I just, it was nice. It's, oh God, like, I'm sorry. I just like, I apologize. And like, I have no problem apologizing again. I know, I just, it was nice. You know, it's like a weird, like nothing is really, like they bury the hatchet, but like I think they just don't want to have tension between them.

That's right. I think so. I mean, I think that Stephanie knows that she is new. So she does need to keep up appearance in terms of like being nice to all of the OGs. And Lisa, I've actually found that Lisa Hoxdean is pretty forgiving to people a lot, you know? I mean, like, obviously not with the Larsa and Lisa thing.

It has, you know, it's like an octopus, you know, just keeps growing and more leg, more leg. But I do feel like Lisa, if you come to Lisa with somewhat of an apology, even though it was totally Lisa's fault because she was like two hours late, right? But I do think that she does say like, okay, let's move on. Cause I don't think that she really truly wants that more,

that many more issues with other people. Yeah. She also like clearly has devastatingly low self-esteem. And so like, I think that she like, she's like happy to apologize that way she can like be in good, like I don't think she likes when people don't like her. Right.

I agree. So I think she's like happy to like, to, you know, she'll stand up don't like her. Right, I agree. So I think she's happy to, she'll stand up for herself in her own little way, but she's usually gonna cave at some point. But notably, did she actually apologize for being so late or did she do that last episode? Because I don't think I see her apologizing at all. Didn't you hear it?

I just heard her accept. You know, from Stephanie. Accept the apology. But that being said, Lisa tells us, I definitely do not wanna be late with Stephanie again because I don't wanna hear that ever again. She's like, well, so it kinda worked. Oh yeah, good point.

That's right, she said that in her confessional. So we'll see. Time will tell. We'll see. Yeah, exactly. I think so they all are sitting on a bench now. I guess are they going to the benches now? Or they're just at like, sorry, this is a pre bench before they get to the main bench area, right?

Because there's a bench area where Alexia has like a has like a throne, I believe. Oh, yeah, that's right. It had wings. It had like, it was like an Egyptian tomb. It had an underground water system. Like it had everything. It felt like, it felt like it was maybe a clue on like the latest like national treasure revamp.

It's like Nicholas Cage was gonna have to like, go examine that throne to find out where the next part of the scavenger hunt is. Totally. There's a throne in Miami. So, excuse me, I have a flagrant burp that I was trying to suppress. So I did burp different times.

So flagrant. Flagrant. Flagrant, that's like. So I did burp. It's different. So flagrant. So flagrant. Flagrant. Flagrant. That's like flagrant nurses and burp. So some of the women are sitting on a bench together and Larsa is saying how she's been trying to communicate with Lisa and everything. They have to have a conversation.

And so Julia's like, yes, I mean, like Gertie and I, we took time and we had dinner, and we talked like two people who are like mature. And Gertie just starts talking completely over, why don't you be Julia and I will be Gertie, and we'll express how this conversation went. Noted. Okay. You start, you start as Julia.

Like Gertie and I, we took time, and we had dinner and we talked like we had a dinner. We had a beautiful dinner. Yes, we had a dinner. I mean, I would like that to happen sooner, but that's okay. You know, it was what a process. It was your process. It wasn't my process. I like to, you know, nip things in the bud, but it was you. It was how you decided that you wanted to do it. And that's fine. You don't have to, you know, you can take a long time. I mean, you hurt me in the process, but it's okay. You know, and you know, I don't know if you even knew what you were apologizing for, but I knew what I got what I needed. And I know we can move forward. So the most important part is that you

listen to me and she listened to me. And that was what was good feelings. Yes. Yeah, it's like a symphony really, truly. You know, it's like harmony. Yeah, it's like I'm the wind instruments and your percussion and, and, and, and woods and I was, I was some woodwinds. I was some woodwinds. There was, there was some bassoon happening. Oh, definitely. Bassoon. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. There was some bassoon. Yeah. Uh, Gertie just talks completely over Julia. Um, now Julia is still the villain.

Don't get me wrong. But Julia's, Julia's trying to be like, you know, like you guys have to have a conversation. Like the two of us just had a conversation and, and you know, that was really good. And Gertie is basically like, yeah, we had a conversation. I mean, it took her forever to get to it. Like, you know, even though she was the one who started it, like took forever, but whatever we talked about it, everything's good now. And Julie's getting so annoyed that like Gertie is talking right over her. Honestly, I, I love Gertie so much, but my God, I could not handle it. I was, I was appreciated the editors leaving in the

overtalk because I just felt it so hard and it's really, she, she surpasses, I think most housewives in terms of the overtalking. I mean, it is so impressive, but she also overtalks when she's just stating things and not yelling, you know? Whereas most housewives just like over talk because they're yelling.

But she has the most, her perseverance and ability to push through the over talking is, I've never seen the likes of it. It's impressive. She just jumps right in and just goes and like doesn't stop It's like when she starts talking. I don't think she even hears other people. I think that's the thing I think that's the thing with like real flagrant over talkers like that they don't even realize another person is talking because they are so tunnel vision on what they have to say and

She was going she was going and Julia sitting there, we just look on her face like, I'm trying to say something nice right now. I know she couldn't. I actually think it's a characteristic of ADHD. Although we'll have to ask Adriana because she's already looking at the DMS five, which is nice. But I do think that that is something that can be, you know, a symptom of that condition is when you talk over people ADHD. Because I was talking with my therapist, talking over my therapist, sorry. And she said, you have ADHD. Okay.

ADHD is good. No. I don't want to do this anymore. ADHD, ADHD. She put all the red flags in my bucket during our virtual therapy session and I was like, wait a minute, what are all these? Seemed healthy.

Yeah. Not seem like a healthy practice. In the chat is just like a bunch of red flags and buckets in my chat on Zoom with her. No, I did take like one of those tests, you know, like an ADHD kind of test type of thing. And there, I actually didn't qualify as somebody who has ADHD entirely. I think I have very small, very few traits of that. But the biggest traits are like the over talking somebody, I mean, that is a huge one, big.

Wow. Is that, that's, that cuts across like genders and everything. Yeah. Wow. That's very interesting. Well, I have to look into that. I mean, I'm no therapist.

I'm like, I do not talk over. I'm like, do I have ADHD? No, no, no, you don't. I do. I mean, if I don't talk over. I'm like, do I have ADHD? No, no, no, you don't. I do. I mean, if I did, it's fine. It's fine, there's nothing wrong with it. We're both like, we stopped talking. We're like, we're like very, very concerned

about talking over each other. And now Amy, it is your turn to speak in a Holly Hunter voice. I'm sorry, you go ahead. No, I'm sorry. Obviously this podcasting aside, in a regular conversation with someone, you know, do you let them talk?

Are you talking over people all the time? No, of course not. Yeah, I mean, given that there's always gonna be a little bit of overlap here and there with everyone, like, et cetera. But that's really interesting. I wonder, I wonder with Gertie. So, but she, because she just fully just talks

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Follow Liberty Lost on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. Now it's time for them to play some Greek games. So they go to the other couch area. And this is where we see Adriana's throne, which makes no sense why she has this giant, giant throne. And it is noted by people like, for instance, Adriana, that like, isn't it funny that a party about narcissism, we have Alexia, the host in a giant throne for no good reason. No good reason. Right. Like, why is it like this? So they're going to play one of these games, a fun game that is purportedly to help them address narcissism. Although we don't really see what the game plan is on the therapeutic front, right? It's just like, let's pile onto people. Unbelievably, uh, reckless and no structure and no healing and no direction and, um, no actual resolution, no beginning, no middle, no end.

Just like air your dirty laundry. So everyone, Daniel hands out like a red flag to everyone and he's going to read a statement and then they're going to put a red flag in the vase of the person that they feel like it applies to the most, which I was like, first of all, you had to get a lot of vases. This is a big cast. That's, that's, that's an impressive hall. All those visas, especially like a long way, you know, brought them from home. So this is my vase suitcase. I put all my vases in here for the narcissist.

This one's from Sydney. Sydney's also the name of my ex boyfriend. She was quite the narcissist. Sydney's also the name of my ex boyfriend. He was quite the narcissist. Here. I, I always check my mirror bag because I can rip there in bubble rep, but the vase big, I always carry that on. So, um, okay. The first question is, or first statement is the person who is constantly talking about themselves. So Marisol, I think Marisol starts it because she goes, oh, that's easy.

And then she stands up and she walks so slowly over to the vases. It was kind of like amazing suspense. It was like, what, how is she going to start this off? And she's like, sorry, monkey. And then she drops the flag in Lisa's vase. And is like, I thought there was Tito's in this vase. Oh, okay. Are there cockies in these vases?

Cockies. That's, well, I'll tell you something. I also would talk about myself a lot. If I were surrounded by such boring bitches, got that one from an E-card too. So it took me a moment to remember how it went. Ha ha ha ha. Steve had to remind me this morning

because I told him I would say that joke. I would talk more if I could not be a friend of. So basically everyone puts their flags in Lisa's face. She's like, oh great, thanks, thanks a lot everyone. Marissa goes, monkey by a landslide. She keeps it light. Just like laughing at Lisa's pain. So Daniel's like, all right ladies, Lisa had an overwhelming number of six.

Monkey for the win, monkey for the win. All right, I want to know how you feel about that, Lisa. The therapy is about to begin right now. She said, well, maybe I tell my problem to the wrong people. I don't know. Maybe that's my thing. Maybe I shouldn't be talking about myself to wrong people. I don't know. Maybe that's my thing. Maybe I shouldn't be talking about myself to these girls. I don't know.

I do love Lisa on defense. She does keep it pretty tight. Her comebacks aren't that bad when she's cornered up, when she's like ganged up on in this situation. She does kind of fight for herself. I am pretty impressed. She keeps it nice. She keeps it nice. She keeps it nice. She's much better than Larsa because when Larsa has to do a comeback,

she just usually goes for the most basic words or nouns that she can find and strings them together. And that works in its own weird way. It's like, if you're like, Larsa, why are you such a dumb bitch? Why are you such a can of beans? Like what? You're a stupid can of beans. You can't even open the can with a can opener. That's because it's defective can. It's one of those cans that you get at like the dollar store or Grocery Outlet because it's dented

and you can't even open your own can. So can it. What? Yeah. This is okay. That was a nice twist at the end, can it. So Lars says like, well, you're annoying people talking about yourself, like, you feel like your problems are the biggest ones in the room, like.

Lisa's like, well, I also feel like you blame me for not knowing your problems, but you also don't not knowing your problems, but you also don't tell me your problems. That was actually shocking. I was like, she does it. I feel like Larissa is always advertising her issues, isn't she? I don't know.

But then when she was like, well, you don't answer your phone. I'm like, oh, that's actually a good point because good point. Cause Lisa doesn't, maybe she doesn't. That is so rich. That is so rich that Lisa is like, well, I, well, you know, you're blaming me for you. Like, you don't, you never talk about your problems. Well, you don't answer the phone when I call you to talk about the problems. Well, I mean, I can't be expected to answer the phone. I'm too busy being two hours late to things. I got to hang out with Jodi.

I also like, Lisa goes, I also think you should tell the truth and stop saying lies. And Larsa goes, so you're the lie detector tests? Doesn't even make sense. Doesn't, I was like, did you see the Orange County trailer or something? Like why that? Lisa Vanderpump in a blazer getting a polygraph done.

That's right. And that too. So Lisa goes, she's like, I have the receipts. Marcia goes, baby girl, I am the receipts. Okay. I kind of loved that. I loved it too, but it truly made no sense. But I loved the spirit with how she said it. She puts a little twist on it, little sass on it. And this is when her real voice was starting to come out. So she was going from like, baby girl, I am the receipt.

Baby girl, I am the receipt. And you're like, oh, okay. Right. She really did get, she started to put a little salt on it, you know? And then Lisa, Lisa's response to Baby Girl I Am the Receipt is, is that your Halloween costume this year? So we're getting some dwindling returns on our comebacks now. Right. Because then Larsa has another one too. Right. Because then Larsa has another one too.

Try, go ahead and try to get a dress in your size. That's much more classic Larsa. Get a dress in your size, can of beans. I didn't hear that. Can you repeat that? Can you repeat that? Can you repeat that? Ignore, ignore, ignoring, ignoring, ignoring. I'm going to ignore? Ignore. Oh yeah, I'm going hear that. Can you repeat that? Can you repeat that? Can you repeat that? Ignore. Ignore. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ignoring. Ign It's Larsa, ha. Digital receipts sent to my email, not printed.

Well, email, I don't have an email because I have Jodi and you don't have anyone. Oh yeah? Well, yeah, you've got an inbox that just won't stop, right? Well, at least my box is in, your box is out. I never said that. I never said that.

Lydie. That was where it goes. Lydie's. I never said your box was in. Your box isn't in. My box is in. It as an in my box is in It would go there that place Who is the person who is quickest to take offense?

It's a little spread out this time. I think everyone kind of like votes for each other, right? And Stephanie Stephanie picked Lisa, which, um, you know, because they just had a fight, et cetera. And Daniel's like, all right, everyone. The one that was quick to take a fence was Lisa. She got the most with three. Lisa, are you offended by this? Because if you are, so it proves the point. She's like, this is like a whack game with some whack people. So yeah, quickest to take offense. Whack. Whack, that's a whack game.

Actually it is a whack game, I'm not gonna lie. She's right on that one. It's terrible, it's terrible, she's right. I can't believe she stayed there as long as she did. I know, I'm shocked. So Lisa's, Lisa has a little monologue where she's like, oh, I'm gonna go to the bathroom, right on that one. It's terrible. It's terrible. She's right. I can't believe she stayed there as long as she did. I know I'm shocked. So Lisa's, Lisa has a little monologue where she's like,

no, everybody by the way has narcissistic traits. For God's sake, Larsa has a Larsa light. Okay. And we see Larsa at fashion week, like taking selfies with that like giant Klee light that she has attached to her phone. Excellent edit. Excellent. Yeah. So then we have who takes the, who is, who has the lack of accountability, who has a lack of accountability. And, you know, it's just more pile on for Lisa, et cetera. But Adriana keeps on picking Marisol for these, which is fun.

It's like an attack, like the friend ups her each other. Right. And I'm like, wow, I forgot they even had something because they're so not engaging at all on this series so far. It's just so I was like, oh, right. They do not like each other. Yeah. Adriana hasn't gotten in trouble yet this season, which is shocking.

Normally she's in the thick of it by now. He's in the background, wow. Just flirting and talking sexy talk with every second she gets. Yeah, well, she's in love, I guess, with Frenchie. It's taken away a lot of her energy. It can happen, just be careful. All right, everyone, just understand

that this is an exercise for everybody to grow and evolve, even though we haven't used any of these questions to try to find growth or evolution. Okay. It's not about attacking each other. Oh, excuse me, please. Can I ask you a question? Yes. Yes. Yes, you may. If somebody tells you something.

She just starts an aria. That was a little bit more on tune than she can do. I just want to say. It's a beautiful note. All right. All right. It's a beautiful note. OK. Thank you. I mean, I'm starting to talk like you anyway.

I lost my Julia. Okay. Here it is. Now, um, what is your recommendation on how to move forward with someone who you invite on cruise ship that takes this mad at Captain Sandy? Well, did this person apologize and are they in this garden with us right now? Yes, Parsh kind of, and I'm looking at her right now. Are you looking at a statue right now or one of your castmates? I can't tell with your eyes right now.

I'm having fun. your castmates. I can't tell with your eyes right now. It's over there. If you follow my eyes, you can see past Alexia's golden chair. Listen, my little golden tiara is a little bit heavy. It's just sort of blinding me. Can you just tell me who you're looking at right now? Okay. I will sing it for you. Okay. Okay. That's acceptable. Gertie. Oh, all right. So Gertie hits you. Can you tell me how Gertie hits you? You can sing it if you care to, you can sing it and I'll, I'll be able to tell you,

I'll be able to heal you of your narcissistic attack. Yes. Okay. My accent is really hard to do. No, this is welcome to my app. Would you like me to adopt a Russian accent so you feel more comfortable discussing your issues? Yes. Yes. So, so tell me about Gerrity. Did she hurt you? Yes, she hurt me. Okay, I would like to say that I just want to say that like, sorry, um, this is after

I was physically assaulted and there's been like a lot of to discuss so I apologize but I'm sorry. Thank you very much, Daniel. But there's a bit much discussed. I mean, have you ever heard of a Captain Sandy? I didn't think so. Okay, that's the problem right there. Okay, until you can watch your blow deck Mediterranean, I don't want to hear you wang in our discussion yet. Thank you so much. All right. So we heard from herty-gurty. And so she feels a certain way. And now Julia, could you sing it?

Julia, what is your reprise? Sorry. That is me doing warmup. Let me, let me, uh, here's how I feel. He's the worst. I'm hearing pain in your aria. Lots of pain. Lots and lots of pain. I'm also hearing pain.

Martina, I'm hearing she's having a hard time too, yeah? Yes, because she found out that so many people are using surrogates and it is very offensive to her. Ha ha ha! All right, well that's just wrong. I'm going to write it on the mirror over here. Surrogate is the best point in Australia and so she'd be fine with Martina. Martina also said she always hated Australian open, so I guess that all

makes sense now. Ouch, ouch, that hurts, that hurts. Yes, it does hurt. Can I tell you I also have another problem with someone? Can I tell you about my problem? Yeah, of course. It's with goat. Goat poop all goat. My goat poop all over my kitchen. Is my goat a narcissist? Your goat, the goat you cry to? Goat, goat, little goat with diaper. Goat, little goat with diaper. Little goat, little goat, I worry God is narcissists.

Oh, okay. I'm concerned. We hear, how do I save God? Yeah, in Australia we have dingoes and diapers. And yeah, they do. They poop in the kitchen. Yeah. So what you got to do is you got to, you got to write in goat poop on mirrors so

they can see what they did wrong. Oh, thank you so much. I think this will help. What is happening? Can we go? Can we, can we move to the other couch? No, there's one more question. Okay.

Here we go. Statement number four, who plays the victim? Who in this group likes to play the victim? And remember if you get the most votes, you're not allowed to be the victim of this pileup because it's a trick. Oh my God. We're not going to move forward. This is getting worse and worse.

I mean, there's only one can of beans in this group that I'm gonna vote for. The dented one, if you know what I'm talking about. Receipt coming through. Ha ha ha, receipt. All right, guys. It's Lisa. Lisa, do you have anything to say about that?

Lisa, Lisa, do you have anything to say about that? Well, you know, I'm really upset about this. Okay, can I just say something? Can I say something? Larsa, you're mad about a photo my boyfriend took with your ex four months ago. That's what this is about. I'm not mad at that. We were playing a game, a game.

It was Duck Duck Boots. It's not a game. You're the narcissist, Larsa. See what I did everyone? I turned it. She's the narcissist now. Okay. Lisa, that's not cool.

You guys have to move forward. You guys have to move forward. I'm sorry. You guys have to move forward. You guys have to move forward. I'm sorry. You guys have to move forward. It's very important that you guys move forward. I don't want to hear anything more. You guys have to move forward. Lisa, apologize already.

Anything besides I'm praying for him. Please say that you never texted anything. Okay, please. Your boyfriend shouldn't yell at women. You need to say that your boyfriend shouldn't yell at women. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I'm not used to men yelling at me. You have to say that you're shouldn't yell at women. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I'm not used to men yelling at me. You have to say that you're not used to men yelling at you.

He's so cheap. And just say that, just remind people that Jodie is very, very cheap. Go ahead, tell me. You know what? I'm not lucky, okay? I'm just not lucky. Okay, Lisa?

Okay, Lisa. She's not lucky. Okay, everyone, I want everyone to know she's just not lucky. Okay, Daniel, are you watching this? Daniel, she's not lucky. She's not a lucky person. You know, when Britney Spears was singing, it wasn't about her. She's not lucky. It's getting very dark. Yes. He's dark. So anyway, Larsa and Lisa are in a full-fledged fight and Daniel cannot, he's trying to control

it. He's like, negativity is in the Ancillaides and they just, it's like, Daniel, you're an accessory here. You've done your work, which is you got them to fight. You just have to sit back. And he does. He then just starts to smile and he's like, you know what? This is pretty cool.

Yeah. He embraces it. He's like, I'm out of control. I need to let go of control and just let the housewives do what they do. Yeah, exactly. Um, so, so, uh, Larsa, uh, is saying, um, well, actually, there's, there's the fight is still, the fight is, is really rampaging on. Yeah. All right. There's, there's the fight is still, the fight is, is really rampaging on.

And Lisa says something about Larsa's boobs. What is it? She says, this was so weird. So Lisa starts to kind of threaten Larsa about the things that she could say about her. And so Larsa is like, say it, go ahead and say it honey. Honey, girl, girl honey. Okay, girl honey baby, say it. And she's like, you told me

that Marcus doesn't have it like that. You don't want your tits to be down to your knees before you guys get married. Okay, yeah, did I really say that? Yeah, you did. No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. And then, and then Stephanie and Julia are completely confused about what context this is in because, and we have no idea as fans, it makes zero sense. I don't know what she's talking about. She's talking about plastic surgery. Is she talking about how Marcus doesn't want to be with her

and she needs to keep herself high and tight? And that's, Laura says just like, my shit, I don't know what she says. My shit is tight. I'm up and tight, tight and right. Right and tight is how I do. So I don't want it. I'm tight. Everything's tight. Maybe Lisa should stop worrying about my boobs and start worrying about how everyone in the

group thinks she's a narcissist. Just a fair point. It's a good point. Even Daniel's like, oh, you're great. It's actually a good movie. It's an evergreen kind of statement. Maybe you should stop thinking about my boobs and about how everyone thinks you're a narcissist.

Yeah. So, Lars is like, you know what I told you? Because now her voice is, you know what I told you? I said, I don't need a man. You know what I told you? I'm independent, okay? You know what I told you? I'm teaching my kids to be independent.

You know what I told you? I don't know what you're doing. You know what I told you? I know what I'm doing. And you know what I told you? I'm done. And that's what I told you I'm teaching my kids to be independent. You know what I told you? I don't know what you're doing. You know what I told you? I know what I'm doing. You know what I told you? I'm done. And that's what I told you." And then her voice comes back. It comes back down. And she will never leave a scene. She will get, she'll go full force. She'll hit her crescendo. She'll come back down. She's not leaving that pit, that symphony pit. She's not going to leave a scene ever. And good for her. As the kids say, that symphony pit. She's not gonna leave a scene ever and good for her. As the kids say, she stands on business.

She stands on business. Yeah, Stephanie actually stands on business because she loves business. So Lisa. Lisa's like, I know what you're doing. You can throw it, but you can't take it. Oh yeah, count the flags. I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.

Count the flags. Count the flags. Larsa deserves some more flags. I feel like everyone should have been able to give out two flags. Absolutely. And that montage was a perfect reminder of why Larsa should have received more flags.

The things that she's done in the past were great, you know, for the show and deserves awards such as more flags. The things that she's done in the past were great, you know, for the show and deserves awards such as red flags. Yes, so Daniel has a new update. By an overwhelming score of 50,000 flags to zero, Lisa has won category five. So, uh, so who here picks Lisa? Alexia, did you pick Leo Flagg for Lisa? Alexia, would you explain why you chose Lisa, please? You do, Alexia, because I like your legs.

Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you so much. Thank you for saying that you like my Alexia, because like I can relate to Lisa, you know, because I'm also going through a very difficult time in my life, but I choose not to play the victim. Okay. So you can play a little bit more. I don't play the victim.

What I do do is I go out to dinner with a whole bunch of gay men and then I cry and scream in the restaurant and say, I want all the nurses to die. But I don't play the victim. So when you invited Lisa here today, did you wanted her to not be a victim because you feel like she's been a victim in her divorce and you're not being a victim in yours? That is absolutely correct. I am absolutely not being a victim and that's the reason why I had this party, so that way you can understand the narcissism that I've had to deal with with Todd.

And it's been a very difficult time for me during this divorce and now you understand what it's like to stand in the shoes of a star who's dealt with narcissism. But yes, I'm absolutely not the victim at all. Not at all. I agree. I co-sign. Good point, Alexa. Alexia. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Star. This star says thank you to you. Thank you so much. And then, um, Lisa, Alexia's chair. Thanks everybody. And then Lisa cries and then she leaves as she, well, she says that Adriana is her safe

space and, and starts to cry. Cause Adriana's like, you guys, don't you realize like, this is a pileup. Like, this is the only, like, do you guys not realize she lost her dad seven days ago? And I was like, well, that is a fair point. It is. It is. They're so, they are savages on this show. I mean, truly. I'm surprised Larsa wasn't like, then what are you doing here? Why are you at this retreat? Why are you here reading mirrors when your dad just died?

Why? Yeah. You should be in Toronto crying. Yeah. You should be in Jodie's eyes crying in his eyes. Yeah. You should be in Toronto crying. Yeah, you should be in Jodie's eyes, crying in his eyes, his two big eyes.

You should be doing something sad. Why are you here? Something sad. She's like, Larsa, you know, there's nothing to do that's sad in Miami. That's why we live here. There's nothing sad in Miami. Everything is fun and wonderful here. And she's like, I was like literally playing the game. I was like, and I was not the only one that felt like that, like, okay,

cause we all felt the same thing, like. And she was like, well, when we actually tell the truth and how we feel, we get punished. How is this a ver? It is like getting pooped on by goat in kitchen. And then cut to the montage of Larsa. Lisa's like, I'm sorry, Larsa has done fucked up shit to all of you guys.

And here's the montage to prove it. An extended montage of Larsa being heinous. I mean, Larsa is really heinous. She really tops the charts with that one, you know? But that's why it really has to sting when everyone puts your flag in your vase when Larsa's there. Like anytime that Larsa is not getting a flag and you get one, you just know you've really, you should know you've messed up at that point. Yeah. That's, that should be your own little wake up call.

Yeah. So Lisa goes, she goes inside, cause it's also like a thunderstorm is happening now. So they're all going inside to a brightly lit room. And so Lisa goes to cry. She's like, you know, it's her standard thing. She goes into a restroom, she cries. This won't be the last time it happens in this episode. And Marissa's like, well, she got the flag at every single game. I mean, she's a big winner, winner, winner, monkey dinner, am I right?

Oh God, I need a khaki. Khaki. But yeah, Lisa's like, I fucking hate these people. Like, I don't wanna be, I just don't even really enjoy hanging out with this group. I just don't wanna be, I don't wanna be with these people. I will continue to film with them as long as they keep paying me though.

Absolutely. Yes. Right. I thought that was one of the most honest statements I ever heard when she was like, I actually don't even like hanging out with this group. I was like, thank you for saying that so we all can hear it. I hear you. And so, but, thank you for saying that. So we all can hear it. I hear

you. And so, but good on you for sticking with it. So Daniel, after the Larsa montage, Daniel is like, all right, everyone, I just want to say thank you for participating tonight. I think the exercises will be positive in the end. Yes, they were, you did a great job, Daniel. You know, your, your years of being a self-help expert really shone through in this moment where you really helped no one at all. Did he lose followers? Is that the question? That's someone that he gained. I'm sure he gained followers because he's like a hot guy and he's on TV, and that's really wild all out. And editing. I guarantee, I haven't,

I've actually not looked up his Instagram, but I'm sure he's one of those people that posts like a shirtless photo of himself, and then he has like a thirst trap, and then the caption is something like, don't give into narcissism, because it will destroy you from the inside out. And it's like, you can't make fun of him for having a thirst trap, because he put something serious into narcissism because it will destroy you from the inside out. And it's like, you can't make fun of him for having a thirst trap because he

puts something serious about narcissism in the, in the caption. Yeah, you're absolutely right. He 100% has some glamour shots of him in that flowered swing, I would imagine. And it's like, you know, in, and shirtless and just in just looking fantastic and just being like swing through life, swing back at your narcissist. If you sway, let me workshop this. So you get there. Okay. Get there. swing of a narcissistic relationship, you'll always be going back and forth. It may look like it's flowers, but it's not. It's too long.

I, I don't know. It's so I found his Instagram. He has 823,000 followers, which is crazy. Gosh. Yeah. Um, he has a book called stop Stop Letting Everything Affect You. It's said like that. I want you to read the audiobook, please.

Stop letting everything affect you. What is wrong with you? You just can't do this. He actually shockingly does. So he doesn't, he does not have any shirtless photos. He has a lot of photos where he looks like he's being interviewed by Diane Sawyer and he's like a checkerboard. So it's like him and then saying, and then him then saying.

So he has things like, the longer you go without something, the more comfortable you are without it. That goes for people too. I'm trying to maintain the tone. Stay away from people who expect you to prioritize them, but don't think twice about putting you last. Dear Ben Mandelkir, I heard your podcast and you're giving my brand the wrong narrative.

That's not how I meant it to sound. You're more like a Cathy cartoon or those greeting cards. I'm more of a sexy, vulnerable, strong sound. Could you go, could you please, this is a cease and desist from reading my captions. You're ruining the tone of what I'm saying. Okay. It's supposed to say a wrong partner will find you in peace and leave you in pieces spelled P I E C E S get it because it's a piece and then pieces. A right partner will find you in pieces and lead you to peace. So now we go from P I E C E to P-E to P-E-A-C-E.

Do you see what's going on there? I don't think anyone wants to get this. Did you see what I did there? I worked hard on it. Here's a really good saying. Hi everyone, I need your help picking the cover for my new book. No, that was one of them.

That reminds me of Craig. Remember when Craig Conover, he was like one of the only ones that gave us a say in his book cover. I appreciated that. Remember that? His sewing down south or whatever his book was. I don't remember that actually. I'm sad.

I would have definitely contributed. It was during COVID and he had like three or four different covers and it was really fun to like weigh in and he went with the one that everybody picked. What was the one that he, what was the name of his book? I don't know. Like Stuck in the Pillows, Pillows of Life. I don't know. It was about pillows. Stuck in the Pillows. Stuck in the Pillows of Life. about pillows. Stuck in the pillows. Stuck in the pillows of life. Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap. For part two, go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.

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