Watch What Crappens - #2936 RHOA S16E19 Part 2: Junebug Don’t You Lose My Number

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

This is part 2 of a 2-parterThe Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion Part 2 featured more Shamea VS Porsha squabbling, Drew pulling out a gotcha over her five languages, and a call to Phaedra�...��s brother, who didn’t sing enough Phill Collins for our taste. To watch this recap on video, listen to our Love Island bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:44 My name is TJ Raphael. I'm the host of Liberty Lost, a new podcast about who gets to be a mother and the control of young women hidden behind the veil of faith. Binge all episodes of Liberty Lost ad free right now on Wondery Plus. Well hello and welcome to Watch What Croppins! This is part 2 of a 2 part recap. If you're like, hey wait a minute I didn't hear part 1.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part 1, okay? It's before this one. Bye! Enjoy the show! So Andy's like, alright, Judy from Judy Town says, Shemeah, do you think Portia gave Phaedra the pass too early considering that she sat back while Phaedra tried to make you look like community property?
Starting point is 00:01:54 So whoever this person was, they are definitely a producer on the show, right? Because I'm guaranteed with everything that happened with Candy and Phaedra and that whole season and everything, no one is thinking like, oh, how Shemia was done dirty by that. Who is remembering that at all? Like that was such a random like thing. Well, I actually I should say I remember it as a random thing. Maybe it wasn't as random as I remember it, but I don't remember it being a very central part of that storyline. I don't really remember any Shemia thing from the past being that big of a deal except for
Starting point is 00:02:27 the Carmen and Candy scene that we see later. I remember that pretty clearly. But most Shemia storylines I don't remember. I do remember the wedding one, but that's kind of the only one that I remember. I honestly didn't remember the Carmen scene to be honest, but that says more about me than it does about actually the show. I just don't remember anything anymore.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Well, flashback to 2017 when Phaedra is accusing everyone of sleeping with Shemeah's husband or Shemeah sleeping with everybody or something. So Andy's like, did you ever resolve it? I mean, God, 2017, that was like yesterday. Am I right? So Shemeah's like, well, I've never sat down with them. And Portia's like, yeah, but we talked about it because I'm like, I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the show. I'm going to the like, yes, I remember. But what I'm saying is you dismissed it
Starting point is 00:03:26 and you said me and Candy were going through something and they're like, you never addressed me in the things that were said about me. So, Phaedra was like, well, so why didn't you address it? I mean, you were having a private conversation. We could have talked about it. And Shemeh is like, well, you know, we never had a conversation
Starting point is 00:03:42 that you put these things out there. And so then Andy's like, are you upset about it? And Shemeh's like, no, no, I mean, I'm totally not upset at all. And I was like, you're clearly upset because this happened years ago and you're still talking about it and you're still obviously we can see your face. You're upset. You know, you're like you brought it up at the pampered event with Porsche. So they're like, just let it out. Is getting into trouble for here. And I think it's valid is that Shamia acts acts like everything's fine and then she goes on interviews and disses everybody. And they're
Starting point is 00:04:08 like, what the hell? Like, I thought we were fine. And she's like, well, I had the right to talk about that. It's like, yeah, but if you want to make that a storyline, then make it a storyline on the show. Like, why are you saving it for the fucking breakfast club every time? You know? And then when we confront you about it, you're like, no, things are fine. Everything's fine. Yeah. Well, because she's always going to say I was trying to like preserve the peace in the group. But then she's harboring all these feelings and they just come bubbling out.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know anything about that. So Portia is basically like they basically like you have to like address this finally. And Shamiah is like, well, I'm going to dumb down like the shit you all said said because of my it's my way of coping and like it's my way of laughing it off and like that's a problem you have to like let it out let it out so they finally like Vedra apologizes and she's you know and they basically like let's just move forward and it seems like she kind of gets in trouble because she says well I'm sorry but just well you can't apologize with a butt.
Starting point is 00:05:05 She's like, okay, are we done now? She's like, is this, are you accepting my apologies or are you not? She's like, yes, I will accept your apology this time. I'm moving, we're moving forward. And when we're asked about it, I'll say she apologized and we moved past it. And Cynthia is just like, another one another one another one Where's the way?
Starting point is 00:05:28 So they now break for lunch so some of the guys come in Ralph shows up Yeah, I mean Ralph so thirsty for care. I mean like So thirsty he's getting divorced from Drew. He is relegated to the basement, but he's looking to show up for the cameras Yeah, you know like he's you know, he cannot resist and Dennis is the basement, but he's looking to show up for the cameras. You know, like he's, he cannot resist. Dennis is there in his tight, his skin tight shirt. So the big big smile question, and this is a probably rhetorical question, because I don't expect you to have the answer. But so that clip of Phaedra was Phaedra saying, and you're sleeping with
Starting point is 00:05:59 everybody, you're like, you're like fucking around all over town, and everybody knows it. That was what that clip was, basically. And then Brits clip that they showed was Britt telling her and you're sleeping around all the time. And you're married, you're married Shemia. So why are these accusations eight years apart? Was that just Britt jumping on something that was said on the past that she's trying to like harp on? Yes, 100%. Or is that something real? Like is Shemia in some kind of open relationship that people keep hinting at but we're never talking about? No, I don't know. But I'm just never going to give
Starting point is 00:06:31 Brit any sort of credibility to having a rumor that has anything based in fact, I think Brit did her research. She watched this, she watched her seasons and she like took notes on like what ammo she's going to use when she needs it. Honestly, although to be fair, she probably didn't even do that. She probably was just like, this is an easy thing for me to say, and so I'm gonna say it. I'm never gonna give Britt any sort of credibility
Starting point is 00:06:53 for having anything close to accurate in anything she says. Okay. So Shamiah talks to Gerald, you sent her flowers, which to me is always a sign of cheating. So that's why I'm asking. I think that's why I'm asking. And Shamiah is like, well, I'm just off my game and everybody's talking over me.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I haven't had a chance to say a thing. Yes, you have. And every time you do, you're like, but what about me and Porsa? So you've said a lot. It hasn't been that interesting, but I don't know that you're gonna blame everybody else, but she is. And so, she's like, but when I get out there now, I'm going to finally have a voice. You watch, Gerald. You just watch. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:07:33 okay, well, that's great. Great. Love to see it. So, Charles is there, Dennis is there, you know, Portia's like, do you have any bombs? He's like, I have no bombs, just a lot of hot dogs actually. Okay. And then Shemeah is still going off. She's telling Kelly, she's like, the gloves are off. I'm not gonna let people talk over me. You're gonna hear from me at long last.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Why is she so surprised that she's being talked over? Like, this is not, I feel like this is not her first reunion by any means, but she was like, no, I'm going to say what I need to say. Cause people need to hear about the details about me and Portia. I'm like, I don't think most of us actually don't really care that much. I'm not sure. I think your say has been said multiple times. And I think it's been said in this reunion.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I didn't feel like she didn't talk. I just felt like it, you know, I feel like she feels that it's, she feels the energy of the room. It's like she's sitting in the first seat. She should have a lot more going on than she does. And she just doesn't. And so she's like, here we go.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Act two, I'm bringing it this time. I'm bringing it in act two. Spoiler alert. Yeah. That doesn't happen. It doesn't really happen. So, Andy, we come back. Spoiler alert. Yeah. That doesn't happen. It doesn't really happen. So, Andy, we come back. We're back.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Okay. This season. Wow. It was a long monologue, but I want to read Britt's Instagram story today. As everyone is now aware, I am traumatized and I'm suing fucking Bravo. Fuck you guys.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I'm not going to be reading it. Bye. Yeah. So, Shamir is like, and I'm suing fucking Bravo. Fuck you guys, I'm not going to be in here. Bye. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, Shamia's like, I mean, it's mind-blowing. I'm speaking that all this happened and then end up it like not being her. But I kind of feel like maybe she already knew that
Starting point is 00:09:17 and just played into it because that same night after the event happened, we went out and she seemed very happy. You know, she didn't seem distraught. I'm not saying that it's okay, but yeah, she came back to the group like she was devastated. It definitely was very different. So she's saying that she hung out with everyone that night and she was just like right. Which doesn't necessarily mean anything. She still may have like, I'll give her credit that she may have needed to process or once it started to become news, it became more humiliating
Starting point is 00:09:43 if she thought it was just like one thing that was like small and then became like a thing that got all over the gossip rags, fine. But I also like, everyone's read seems to be like, yeah, she was really trying to play it up. So it's hard because you never really want to like blame someone who's the victim of what Kenya was trying to do because what Kenya was trying to do was really, really terrible. But Britt has also shown herself to be terrible. But then again, there's the whole perfect victim thing. Like you don't have to be perfect to still be a victim. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I mean, Britt's still garbage no matter what. So. It's not really helping Shamiah that she, she and Candy both were, you know, in trouble for liking a pro diddy being for like a pro, diddy is free now, thank God, diddy's free. And they were like, oh yes, you know, and they supported that.
Starting point is 00:10:32 So it's not really helping Shemia much in this. I mean, Shemia, obviously this was filmed before that post, I think, but it's a time where Shemia might be quiet. I didn't realize Shemia also did that. I was surprised that Candy did that. I was like shocked Kandi did that. I was like shocked. But, you know, so Andy. Great look.
Starting point is 00:10:46 So Brits, Brit was on Watch What Happens Live saying Kenya had something against her from the beginning. And then we see a clip of the original, the initial party where she met Kenya and Kenya was questioning her rings, which I still don't think was a big deal. And don't think Kenya was like, yeah, and at still don't think was a big deal. And don't think Kenya, this is light shade. Yeah. And worst it was light shade. Kenya offenses that was not even on the radar for me. So. But Britt's like a perpetual, like, like, how could you be doing that to me?
Starting point is 00:11:18 Really? You didn't even hug me. So basically, um, uh, Britt's like Britt saying that Kenya was coming after me all season long. And everyone's like, yeah, we didn't really feel that way. If you asked, there was never any indication. And if you asked Kenya, Kenya would have been like, I wasn't coming after her. They're all like, yeah, Britt really concocted this in her head a bit. And Angela says, you know what? That's why I wrote the question at the bank because I don't think Kenny had any clue
Starting point is 00:11:46 that that Brit felt this way. So that's why it was supposed to be an opportunity for Kenny to explain how she felt. And yeah, kind of went left, oopsies. Well, the part I left out when I just shortened that the Instagram thing was Brit claiming that the pictures that were shown on the show weren't even of her.
Starting point is 00:12:02 So that's kind of what they're talking about. They're like, how is it not even her? I mean, the whole thing is so confusing. I'm confused. I still don't understand that whole thing. So anyway, let's just ignore that and go to how do you like them from apples? On Twitter said,
Starting point is 00:12:17 Cynthia, why in hell do you have so much grace and understanding for Brit and zero for Kenya? And I liked Cynthia's answer here. She's like, that's not true, first of all, but what Kenya did was wrong. I'm not standing up for that. Like, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to go publicly stand up for someone who just showed a woman's like porn pictures to the public and made sure to do it in front of all the news outlets and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:12:41 That was low and I'm not going to do that. Sorry. And Porsche is saying what I like that like Porsche, Porsche explains also a little bit more about it and saying how like, you know, Kenya is a loose Canyon, but that doesn't really excuse any of it. Right. But basically they get to a place where they're like, you know what, like we're, Porsche is like, I was pissed. I wasn't sad. I was pissed that she did this. And you know, I really liked that she said that because it's basically like Kenya, not only like messed up her, like messed up what she was doing with the show and everything. And it was, it was wrong what Kenya did, but she also kind of like messed up the show. Like the show kind of
Starting point is 00:13:18 like stumbled after that. And this was supposed to be like their comeback show. And a lot of it was like a lot of, a lot of focus was on Portia and how she was coming back. And like, she kind of like Portia took a lot of blame for people were like, Oh, Portia's a flop. Portia's a flop. And maybe she was, and I don't think she was really a flop, but she wasn't like, she didn't save the show. But again, as I've said, like umpteen times, I think it's because the show, the show started the season with But again, as I've said, like umpteen times, I think it's because the show, the show started the season with great energy, but I think it couldn't find its bearings after this whole
Starting point is 00:13:48 scandal. So, you know, I think she had every right to be pissed. Kenya, Kenya really messed things up for a lot of people, like an entire production staff, an entire economy, an entire economy, people jobs. And he's like, you know, well, I will say this. There was an investigation surrounding the threat that Britt made relating to the gun. And there was also one relating to what Kenya did. And Shamia is like, well, I mean, that's not even our fight. Okay, Shamia, I know you're trying to have a voice, but not now.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I want to hear this investigation because we never get to the bottom of this and he's kind of cut off and then never comes back to it. And I wanna know what the investigation found. Do you need to tell me because I hear about these Bravo investigations all the time. They could have a new law and order based on Bravo investigations at this point. There's so many goddamn episodes worthy. So tell me what happened. But he's cut off my goddamn.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Well, because, well, no, because cut off, because a Porsche said that like what had happened was that Kenya Moore had received incriminating photos of Brit or information. I'm sorry, information about Brit's past. And then, so then Kenya went and looked and was able to find all these photos. So Shumya's like, yeah, yeah, can we go back to that? Which cast member gave you that information? And Porsche was like, well, Drew sent her the information and she was like, what, what? I never heard that. I was the one. What? I don't like my nips. Drew, you literally have, we saw you have dinner with Britt and Britt said she did
Starting point is 00:15:18 webcam and you said, did you ever like give up the kitty or whatever it was that she said you were the one who knew you knew drew. Yeah. Did you sell the kitty? Drew is such a liar. And for her to, it's hilarious because I don't know why, but Drew just makes me laugh. Like I don't even care that she's lying. I was cracking up cause she's like, what me? I've never even heard that really. All the blogs have been lit all season saying that Drew got the picture. She got some pictures from Ming Li
Starting point is 00:15:47 who used to also date whoever. I said it earlier in the season, I forgot. They used to have the same boyfriend, the same boyfriend a long time ago. So Ming Li got all these pictures off his phone or something. And Ming Li was the one who sent them to Drew and Drew shared them.
Starting point is 00:16:01 So that's been a huge piece of gossip in all the blogs. So for Drew to be like, what? I never heard that I was the one. Oh, you liar, please. And so Portia's like, yeah, you said it to me. And she goes, no, she said publicly and to me that she got it from a private investigator. Private investigator.
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Starting point is 00:19:28 So yeah, they're basically, Portia's just going on and on about it. And she says that she spoke to Kenya that night and Kenya was like very remorseful. And she says, I was pissed at Kenya, Kenya feels terrible for what she did, et cetera. And Cynthia said, Cynthia's like, and you know, it's just really sad because that's pretty much the last time I even talked to Kenya. She just stopped taking my calls. Why are you chasing after Kenya's friendship?
Starting point is 00:19:52 She's done you dirty so many times, Cynthia. Move on. Yeah, I'm kind of glad that she has because I feel like the old Cynthia would keep calling her until it worked out, trying to make her sign some kind of friendship contract or some shit. So it was kind of nice to see her just be sad that it worked out, trying to make her sign some kind of friendship contract or some shit. So it was kind of nice to see her just be sad
Starting point is 00:20:07 that it's over, you know? And she's like, well, I'm the only one that she doesn't speak to. And all the years that I've been a housewife of Atlanta, sweet 16, not that sweet, not that sweet. And I just am left with one question. Who's the who, where's the where, and why's the why? What's the who where's the where and why so why what's the what so um and it's like all right well welcome back the real ours of the Atlanta reunion this
Starting point is 00:20:34 season we finally got to know the artists formerly known as porches friend Shamiah Morton no relation to the salt Shamia, you gave us a glimpse of the good, the bad and the wealthy and had a voice of your own, even if some people thought that voice sounded a lot like Drew. Watch this. Yeah, so we get Shamia's segment, which is a lot of money,
Starting point is 00:20:59 the singing things she did for her friends, the surrogate and the kid. So that's what we see. So Andy is like, okay. the singing things she did for her friends, the surrogate and the kid. So that's what we see. So Andy is like, okay, so we got in a fight about donations with Britt, but that was resolved. You find it strange that she went from that really nice speech at the villa telling you that you were faking
Starting point is 00:21:20 to telling you that you were faking. Cause basically in the villa, Britt did that whole like, you are my best friend. You are my heart. And I am here for you. And then the next day she's like, oh really? Your kid probably wasn't even really sick.
Starting point is 00:21:33 You were doing shots in Miami. And I like when they showed the clip because she actually picked up a shot glass. She goes, you were doing a shots, shots. Shot glass. In Miami. She's a very literal person. She's like, I need to have a prop to explain exactly what I'm talking about. While I diss someone.
Starting point is 00:21:51 The character of season 16. So Shamia is like, I mean, I have been able to handle infidelity rumors, a fractured friendship with Portia having too good of a voice for the record industry to acknowledge, but I do not play about my kids. I wish that I were fabricating or creating a story. I am so blessed to have my daughter today. So to hear somebody say that really pissed me off. It's like, okay, show me. So she, of course, does an enormous monologue about that was only halfway through the monologue and basically yada yada yada. She was annoyed. You know, her kids, she was on that tree to help with her hearing, which is good.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And you know, cause that kid's so cute that her kids are so cute. So she got her kids help and the first surrogate didn't pan out. The first pregnancy didn't pan out. And so they are trying a new surrogate and sorry, Martina, sorry, Martina. You're just going to have to deal. Martina Navratilova. She's like, another surrogate being used. It's a travesty. Oh God. I can Martina now don't even get me started on that. Ladies tweets. So, um, Andy, Andy's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:23:03 men from FIS wants to know why you're always commenting and comparing yourself to Drew's singing and acting abilities. Drew was a household name, triple threat. Okay, she can sing, she can dance, and she can lie about purses. So, come on. And she's like, yeah, and I just wanna say, congratulations, Drew.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I'm just so amazed with you. I mean, she is a triple threat. And I'm not comparing my music to Drew's music. I mean, it's like comparing hot dogs to Grammys. But Drew was calling me a lap dog, so I shaded her. But I never shaded her voice or her ability to hit notes like she did me in the last clip. Drew's like, for the record,
Starting point is 00:23:43 I am no longer a triple threat, I'm a double threat because I lost one of my threats with Drop It with Drew. Okay. Drew's like, for the record, I am no longer a triple threat. I'm a double threat because I lost one of my threats with Dropout with Drew. Okay. Available now. So Drew is like, well, you know, you went on the radio and said, I was a liar for saying I speak five different languages. And Shemeil is like, well, that's what I said. Drew's like, well, clearly I wasn't lying because I can speak five different languages. If you sense that I'm coming up with a classic Juicedora prop coming up soon, it's about to happen. And Jimmy is like, well, we had a conversation at Brit's event where you said yourself that your team made a mistake with the title of the song. Yeah, well, the song is called Affirmations. Yeah. Because it's from a book. Look, I got you a book. It's called The Five Love Languages.
Starting point is 00:24:24 You were supposed to ask me what languages I speak and you never asked me. So I'm just going to bring out the book anyway. Okay, here it is. Five love languages, my book, five love. Does anyone see what I'm doing here? I actually really like this because it was like a part of it was something that Shemeah didn't even get. Like she tried to make this big deal. Like she doesn't know five languages, that idiot. When she was referring to the five love languages. I thought that was kind of funny. Like I know five love languages.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Cause that is a big thing right now. Like even on Love Island, we see it where people are like, my love language is acts of service. So really? Cause my love language is like touching and kind words. Oh, wow. Well, I'm an acts of service person. I'm sorry. I don't think we're going to work out. How dare you. My love language is like physical touch. And you know, if, if my, if my tire doesn't fit
Starting point is 00:25:19 your wheel, drive a different car, you know? So Drew is like, so Drew basically was talking. Love language and speak something else. Drew is a, yeah. So the five languages that she's fluent in are the love languages, which I also don't think is true because she's getting a divorce. in are the love languages, which I also don't think is true because she's getting a divorce. You could have made at least one of those languages work. I mean, come on. Maybe she has a different dialect. That was just non-lingual.
Starting point is 00:25:59 So Drew's like, Shamiah girl, you just love to make stuff up because you shaded and called me a liar. I mean, Drew, come on. Drew, come on now. Drew, let's, come on. What did you think of Drew saying you sing off key? And Shamiah's like, well, you know, she said she's never had a hard time hitting notes. Well, she had a hard time planning a showcase
Starting point is 00:26:20 because it never happened. Unlike mine. I'm like, oh my God, this is so embarrassing. And another thing, and another thing, that Judith Lieber bag that you said you had, it wasn't Judith Lieber, it was a Judith Light original. And guess what? Her shit don't sell.
Starting point is 00:26:38 So take it back, Drew. And I know that because I've seen it on Amazon. So she pulls out, she's brought in a prop bag. It's like a big prop moment, this segment. So she brings out a prop bag and it's got the same bag, but it's from China and it was only $130. And Drew's like, I'll post the receipt. And she goes, oh, really, really?
Starting point is 00:26:58 Why don't you post it in your five languages? You fucking liar. So then Drew posted the receipt. So she actually did buy the bag from Bergdorf's according to her receipt. So this is like two things in a row that Shemia's kind of failed on. And it's very Shemia.
Starting point is 00:27:15 The love language is followed by the purse. It's just very Shemia. And it's very cringy. Cause I know that I rag on Shemia a lot, but it's not that I hate Shemia. I just, I'm cringed. I think she's just trying too hard. She just needs to-
Starting point is 00:27:28 When did she, when did she post the receipt? Did she show the receipt? She posted it. I don't have a screenshot. Oh, oh, it's oh, on Instagram? Yeah. She didn't bring it to the reunion, but she posted it on Insta. You think it's a lie?
Starting point is 00:27:42 I don't believe anything Drew does. I'm sorry. I thought you meant that she showed it at the reunion. I was like, I don't remember that. No, she posted it on Insta. You think it's a lie? I don't believe anything Drew does. I'm sorry. I thought you meant that she showed it at the reunion. And I was like, I don't remember that. No, she posted it online. It was $5,796 plus tax, $347.70. And so that came to $6,142.70. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:03 That's it. I wonder when she returned it. Cause there's no way she held onto that. She even Okay, that's it. I wonder when she returned it Because she posted it with her songs. I got I I got five on it love languages featuring big quad by Drew Sidora, I got five on it Did you really call it I got five on it love languages no from the love Drew Drew Drew Drew Drew Drew, Drew, Drew, Drew, Drew, Drew, Drew, Drew, Drew. Okay, so Andy is like... I got relish on my Judith Lieber bag. I got relish on my Judith Lieber bag. Thank God it's plastic, I can wipe it off.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Thank God it's plastic, I can wipe it off. I got rel fun it. I got rel fun it. So, of course, he's like, I'll take that fake bag. I want that fake bag. That's a nice bag. I'll take that. So Portia, do you think Brit was being malicious and forming you about Shemia showing your text messages? And do you believe her? I mean, do you think Brit was being malicious? Is there any answer to that other than yes? So, Portia's like, do I think she's being malicious? Yes, because she was upset because she felt like she's being thrown out and had been out of an alliance. But like two other things that she
Starting point is 00:29:15 was really saying felt really familiar. So the text messages were like my actual text messages. So, yeah, some of it was definitely true. And so Andy's like, all right, well, Kelly, you were present at the time Britt said, Shamia showed you the text, do you remember that? And of course Kelly, she have the great memories like, you know, I don't, you know, we definitely hung out that night, but I'm damn sure I didn't see any text messages from Shamia, just as I'm sure I never compared
Starting point is 00:29:40 my relationship to Angela's. And surely this doesn't look like I'm just lying because we're in an alliance, which we've already admitted to. So I'm just going to stick with this. But I like Portia's answer because she's like, well, yeah, it was malicious that Brett showed me those texts, but they were true.
Starting point is 00:29:55 They were the texts that I had sent. So she wasn't lying either. So Sheme is like, well, you know, the tea that she was trying to bring back doesn't even matter, because I had already said that to your face, right? I mean, did me and Portia celebrate me getting a peach? My answer was no,
Starting point is 00:30:12 because she'd been going through some stuff. Andrew's like, oh my God, you're just lying today. You're lying. You told me that Angela, you told me and Angela the same thing, that Portia did not celebrate you, and you were very upset. Wait, so how is that? So Mia literally just said, this is what I,
Starting point is 00:30:30 this is what Brit brought back to Portia that, that Portia and I did not celebrate me getting a peach and I was upset because like she was going, I guess actually she was saying it was a simple no, because she'd been going through some stuff and Drew's saying the lie is that no, you were, the lie is that you were, it was a simple no. You were actually upset about it. And she was like, no. Well, I said, when I got my peach, we did not get a chance to celebrate because again, the same story. Andrew's like, well, you never said to me that to me and Angela though, you said you were hurt because she didn't celebrate. I was like, this is so threading the needle of like,
Starting point is 00:31:06 of relevance to anything at this moment. Like I'm not even sure if it's even- Well, it's just another, I think it's just another example of Shamiah acting one way and then acting another way to your face. Like she's telling the girls, I mean, Portia, what kind of friend is Portia? She doesn't even celebrate me when I get a peach.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I mean, is she even really my friend? Like doesn't she care? It's a big deal for me and Portia doesn't even care. And she's really saying, no, no, I was just saying you couldn't unfortunately celebrate because you're going through a lot Porsche and I totally understand. Yeah. You know, if that was the case, then I do think that should me I should just be more honest about those moments because like, I mean, but like, it's also it's so this is such a small thing to like grill, like to grill over, to grill anyone over,
Starting point is 00:31:48 whether it's Shemia, whether it's like their friend, like to, this is such a small piece of evidence to destroy your friendship over, you know? All right, well, let's get to the moment we're all not waiting for, some more Shemia and Portia. So we see a big clip package of their friendship and their problems and their arguing. And then what's the current status of your friendship today?
Starting point is 00:32:10 Does it have new boobs? Does it? Does it have any boobs, your friendship? Not. And they just pause, no one will answer. They're like, who's gonna answer? So Portia finally answers first and she says, there isn't, there isn't a status of our relationship.
Starting point is 00:32:26 There's no communication. And she says she could have gotten over everything, but it's the recent smear campaign that she didn't like and the lies that were told in recent interviews. She went on Candy's show and said that Portia didn't congratulate her and Candy finally had to say, well, did she call you? And you said, well, yeah, she called.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And then you went onto the breakfast club and said that you only had one wedding. And Shemia says, I did only have one wedding. Well, Portia says that's a lie, which we all know that's a lie because she had one wedding in Africa and one local wedding. Isn't that already established?
Starting point is 00:32:58 That's what I would understand, like why Shemia lies about stupid little things like that. Like it's been established on the show that you had a local one, hasn't it? Well, what's also shitty is that like, Shamiah has these little lies, you know, to try to save face, these little lies like, well, I didn't say that, I didn't say I was upset,
Starting point is 00:33:17 or I didn't say that. But I mean, if you really look at the actions, like Portia has been way worse than Shamiah. Like Portia is getting off scot-free because we're all focused on these stupid little lies that Shamiah has said. And Portia's the one who didn't go to the wedding. Portia's the one who didn't congratulate Shamiah.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Portia is the one who shaded Shamiah for her singing. Like, Portia's been, like, honestly a shitty friend to Shamiah. But we're all focused on, like, the fact that Shamiah's not being, like, emotionally honest with herself by saying, like, well, no, I acted this way. But then it turns out she was talking like a little bit of shit, which was honestly justified shit. And we do wish I wish that Shamia would have just been honest and be like, yeah, I did talk shit because I was upset. But because now she's getting tripped up and like, Portia is able to change this whole narrative into,
Starting point is 00:34:00 well, look at what I have to deal with someone who's not being honest with Portia. It's like you fully skipped out on your best friend's wedding. You skipped out on all these things. You didn't even congratulate her. You showed up when she had a big party. You showed up late and tried to steal the spotlight when she was getting her big car at the first episode of the season. So like, Portia's been so shitty to Shemeah. I agree with you. I agree with you that Shemeah could just say, listen, I did say that because I got a peach and you don't even care. Like, hello, you never, you never, we never go out. We never do anything. You just send me a little text. Like,
Starting point is 00:34:29 what the fuck is that? I think she would be more right to do that. I think you're right. Yeah. A hundred percent. And then- Because Porsche's not in all these little lies too. It's not just Shemia. Porsche's whole like, well, I couldn't go to your wedding because you know that I can't fight because I had medical issues. And then- And then she's like, yeah, but then later this season you said that you didn't go because we were having problems. So which is it? And I didn't even know that until that moment. Right. So, but what happens is that it winds up being like being a false equivalency where
Starting point is 00:34:55 like push as, you know, infractions are sort of like just as bad as Shamiah's. And if you really look at them, they're a hundred percent not, as bad as Shamiah's and if you really look at them, they're 100% not. But I just wish that Shamiah did not allow Portia to have that sort of leeway because Portia should be held accountable for being a shitty friend to Shamiah at times.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Like the wedding thing is shitty. Like a bunch of the things are shitty. And like I love Portia, but she sometimes needs to have her feet held to the fire a little bit more. Yeah, so then Portia basically is everything more. Yeah. So then, um, Portia basically is everything we just said. You know, they start talking about the weddings,
Starting point is 00:35:30 they go through all of that stuff. And, um, it's just a lot of hurt. I mean, we've seen it all season. It's kind of the same thing. I'm trying to read through it to figure out where it ends, but it goes on for a long time. It's the climax of the episode, essentially, right?
Starting point is 00:35:45 And so then, but then it eventually starts to pivot into talk about this alliance again. So, you know, Portia is like, no, we had a beautiful friendship and I like, I love you Shamia. So for me to now see that you decide to form an alliance with two girls, the very two girls. And she's like, I tried to include you in the alliance.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And she's like, no you didn't. She's like, yes I did. She's like, that's not true. She's like, but meanwhile, Portia's the one who says she doesn't want to be in an alliance in the first place. But she's like, but then, you know, to talk about I'm trying to sabotage you.
Starting point is 00:36:16 She's like, okay, I'm gonna be her today. I like Portia saying she's gonna be her today. Like she's not her ever. She's the one who gets all the attention and all the microphones. Yeah, so then they start doing the, no, I'm gonna talk, no, I'm gonna talk, no, I'm gonna talk.
Starting point is 00:36:30 And they argue about the alliance and stuff. And then Andy's like, hold on, hold on, hold, hold. Now Shamia, this is the part where I pretend that I don't spend my entire life trying to get women to fight on TV. I really want women to make up guys. That's why we're here. So Shamia, you told me you'd be willing to put in the effort
Starting point is 00:36:48 if Portia makes the first move. And I saw that she did a birthday post for you. And she goes, yeah, that was sweet. And I texted her back because now a text suffices by the way. So she's like, yeah, well, but then she continued her smear campaign right after that. She's like, no, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:37:04 And you're the one that made a post about my mom. You said that my mom did something egregious to your mom. And Portia goes, she absolutely did. And she goes, why are you even speaking about my mom? And she goes, oh, really? You know she did. You know it's your mom did. And that's the end.
Starting point is 00:37:21 So now we finally got into something interesting, which is the daycare fight It's the fight over the daycare center, and I hope they get into it because that shit was interesting who was all off-camera I don't remember what that mom fights. I don't even remember what that daycare center drama was all about mom and she Moms both own daycare center. They both run daycare centers. Okay, so like competing daycare center ladies and daycare center, they both run daycare centers. Okay, so like competing daycare center ladies. And Porsche's mom was at one of the moms was having financial trouble. And she was like, please, whatever happens if they take my daycare, don't
Starting point is 00:37:54 let my you know, don't don't let it get taken away or used against me or don't let don't let it be turned into another daycare center or something. Don't let it fall into the wrong hands. Yeah, something like that. And then the daycare center did get taken away. And then the other mom took it. She bought it. And so now it's a date. It's like, how dare you, you took my corner on the daycare market. Yeah, but have a better daycare. I mean, I guess like chart, I don't know, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:24 How do you say that to somebody though? Cause I feel like daycare, that's like, I feel like you have to be a good person to have a daycare. But maybe there's more to the story. How about you just tell somebody, make manage a daycare better lady, you know? Maybe there was some corporate sabotage.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I don't know. Yeah. Oh, I'm very excited about that. Well, and I love a generational backstory. There were also the rumors about so there were the rumors that the Shamiah's mom still like somehow got the daycare when the other mom was in financial straits. And then when Kim Zolciak's house was being foreclosed on there was a rumor that Shamiah's husband was the one who bought it for like rock bottom.
Starting point is 00:39:00 So I like and I don't know that one was even true. I think that it wasn't But I like just the rumors about Shamir are so much more interesting than what we're getting is I guess what I'm saying Because that daycare fight is the best thing that happened on the show and it was all offline Maybe it was like Walmart, you know Like Walmart would like to come into a community and have like rock-bottom prices and then drive out all the business and then yeah Walmart would be the only one in town and prices go up. So maybe that's what Shemeah's mom did with her daycare center. Driving off the mom and pops. Yeah, like Walmart driving off the mom and pops. Except they
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