Watch What Crappens - #2947 RHOA S16E20 Part 2: Oakley-Dokily

Episode Date: July 28, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watcha Crappin's ad free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Travis fell in love with the perfect woman. Beautiful, understanding, available 24-7. There was just one catch. She wasn't human. Binge all episodes of Flesh and Code early and ad free right now on Wondry+. Well hello and welcome to Watch What Croppins. This is part two of a two part recap.
Starting point is 00:00:53 If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show. All right. before this one. Bye, enjoy the show. All right, well, Elizabeth from Berkeley said, "'Drew, you seemed upset that Shemean and Portia
Starting point is 00:01:12 went out to eat with Ralph. Is that hypocritical when Portia thought it was wrong for you to shoot with Dennis?' And Drew's like, well, I mean, you sat there and you kiki'd with someone who was publicly humiliating me unless we're making steak together. Who you have seen his behavior, Portia, and I came to your birthday party when we filmed your spin off.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Remember I went to a birthday party? I mean, you had free food, but I still went. And so we see a clip of her going and she's like, you know, because I cried to you about while Ralph left me. And Portia's like, yeah, but I thought it was fake. So that's why I thought it was okay to do this. Portia was super, Portia and Shemia both were super shitty for doing this. I mean, Ralph is someone who's like stalking her. You know, he had the hidden cameras, he had the cheating, he had all the shit that he's saying online, the coming for her mom,
Starting point is 00:01:57 he's doing really nasty shit to her. And so yeah, it would have been more equal if it was Drew bringing Simon on screen, not Dennis. Yeah. Well, Portia says, like, well, I can't get up. I keep up with you guys, the lies. And you and him, like, all you're saying is, I don't know, like, you guys lie. Which I think is fair, actually, because you cannot tell with the lies with Drew and Ralph.
Starting point is 00:02:20 But also, I think that this is the moment where Portia should, like, go back to what she said in an earlier episode of the reunion when she said, yeah, I was just being messy. That's it. I was just was being messy because you're being messy. And I wanted to take a swipe at you. So I was being messy because that's the truth. That's the real truth. Like, yeah, you may not be able to keep up with the lies, but you also know that when you do that, you seed any sort of moral high ground you think you have about the whole Dennis and Drew thing. So just stop trying to be like, well, I was justified in doing that.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Just say you were being messy. Yeah, so Portia's like, well, I'm just saying, I think you guys are in cahoots when it comes to some of the drama you promote. Which I think, I mean, I don't know. It seems like that when you're posting those Instagram videos. So then Andy's like, well, Brooke from Lynn Heights says,
Starting point is 00:03:04 Shumia, why did you set up Portia to meet with Ralph to get back at Drew? You didn't like her calling you a lap dog, but that was lap dog behavior. And Shemeah is like, well, I mean, you know, it was, but you know how she called me a lap dog the whole season. So, okay, well, let me act like a lap dog then. You want to see a lap dog?
Starting point is 00:03:21 Okay. So yeah, it was that. It was. I don't believe, that was a weird, but I did not like, for some reason I really did not like this response from Shamiah. This seems like, like, you're going to call me a lap dog? So fine, I'll be a lap dog.
Starting point is 00:03:32 No, you didn't do that, like as some sort of strident owning of a criticism. You did it because you were being a sincere lap dog. You were not being lap dog. You were not being an ironic lap dog in that moment. You're being a sincere lap dog. You were not being lap dog. You were not being an ironic lap dog in that moment. You're being an actual lap dog. Don't try to take ownership of it after the fact, like this was some empowerment moment for you.
Starting point is 00:03:55 It was not. You were just being messy as well as Portia. Yeah. So Angela, Sheme is like, yeah, you know, lap dog lap dog. So Angela's like, please don't talk about yourself like that. And Sheme was like, well, I mean, she keeps saying it, you know? And honestly for me, I just, I feel like I'm being a loyal friend, like you were to her.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And Angela's like, no, but you know, like, she goes, no, but I'm too big to sit on anybody's lap. So that's the difference. So they all laugh. And Kelly is like, well, I think we're all loyal friends. Oh, right. Okay. You've been fighting for 13 hours now
Starting point is 00:04:32 about shit that you did to each other. And he says this, which I thought was funny. He goes, Twitter said, Drew, this is the first time he just said, just the whole platform. The whole platform Twitter said, Drew, in a recent interview, you admitted to sending flirtyirty texts to tie her ex also said
Starting point is 00:04:50 that you both spoke for an average of 3000 minutes a month. Is this the main reason why you're getting a divorce? And Drew is like, well, I mean, who we have remained, you know, just, you know, we have remained to say that we are friends. And but first of all, I think that if you do the math, three thousand minutes or whatever is really not that much. True. Three thousand minutes is literally a lot of time. Like three hour minutes, three thousand minutes. How many hours is that? So that's what is that five?
Starting point is 00:05:24 It's 50 hours? You flounder. Well then what are you giving me math at work? No, I wasn't, as a rhetorical, it was 3,000 divided by 60. That is 50 hours. God, you're so smart. I mean, I already knew that. I was just being silent
Starting point is 00:05:37 because I was doing it on the calculator. But yeah, 50 hours, that's a lot in a month. 50 hours is a lot in a month. And Phaedra, at first I was really impressed because Phaedra goes, well, that's about 10 minutes a day. And I was like, oh in a month. And Phaedra, at first I was really impressed because Phaedra goes, well, that's about 10 minutes a day. And I was like, oh my God, look at Phaedra with the on-spot math. But no, it's not.
Starting point is 00:05:52 If it's a month, it's 50 hours a month. That's like talking for 90 minutes every day, basically. A little bit more than that. In a 31 day month, I'd like to add, in a 30 day month, I mean, we're just, those stats just skyrocketing through the- You guys can't do this to Raph. You know what happened in my day cares.
Starting point is 00:06:10 You're getting close to two hours at that point. You're doing, but the point is, like, that's a lot. Like, I hate talking on the phone. I have some friends who are like, they're like, Ben, why don't you ever call? And I'm like, well, first of all, the phone goes two ways. But also, I don't want to encourage you to call me, because I don't like talking on the phone.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I hate talking on the phone. I just want to text and send little DM ways, but also, I don't want to encourage you to call me, because I don't like talking on the phone. I hate talking on the phone. I just want to text and send little DMs, but- I have certain friends that I'll talk to, and then I talk, I mean, I do talk on the phone quite a bit, but I can't do it with everybody. You know why I don't think I like talking on the phone? I think because what we do right here is like, gabbing on the phone.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Like, we're just sitting there gabbing, like, and then she said, I don't like that. And you're like, yeah, I liked it. What? But I didn't like it. Well, I liked it, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I have to have meetings with my, not then she said that, I didn't like that. And I'm like, yeah, I liked it. What? But I didn't like it. Well, I liked it. Yeah. I mean, I have to have meetings with my, not meet, you know, I have to have specified times
Starting point is 00:06:50 where we talk on the phone because yeah, today I'm not going to talk on the phone, but you know, on lighter days I'll talk, I'll do my three hours with my bestie and stuff. But yeah, I can't do it every day. So Shemeah is like, wow, I'm married and I don't even talk to my husband for 3000 minutes. And Drew's like, did we see a receipt on I don't even talk to my husband for 3000 minutes.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And Drew's like, did we see a receipt on that? I mean, people can throw things out, but does that always make it true? And he's like, well, okay. And then who was black and are you dating him? He's like, he's a friend, a friend. Like I said before, he owns the number one hookah company in the country. And I am here to give everybody a free hookah. Everybody gets a free hookah. And he's like, you know, that makes it look like you're banging him because you are
Starting point is 00:07:32 now promoting his things. Like he has lots of friends. This is, this is almost as bad of a flex as when Kenya sort of dated the guy who had the rest, like, Kale Me Crazy. But I think he called it Kale Me Crazy, but I think he called it Kale Me Crazy. Kale Me Crazy, yes. Kale Me Crazy opened in WeHo for all of six months
Starting point is 00:07:51 and it closed. Like literally it did not last, I don't think even more than six months. Well they should have called it Kale Me By Your Name if they're gonna open it in WeHo, you know? Like give it some game. I know. We need to have Misha on and do an episode
Starting point is 00:08:03 about Kale Me Crazy in WeHo. Talk about the big flop. I just talk about like the life and times of a fast casual kale restaurant. But so then Drew goes about and starts, you know, he starts, she starts basically handing out hookah gifts to everyone. She gets everyone these tiny little hookahs, little baby hookahs or vapes I should say and
Starting point is 00:08:28 No one looks particularly impressed, you know Yeah, like this is the housewives where you give out things that have diamonds on them You don't give out things that you could find and like a store in Times Square drew is like I'm dating a paperclip air She everybody here's a paperclip I'm dating a paperclip air. She everybody here's a paperclip. Drew handing out vapes or like little pipes as if it, this is like the height of luxury on Bravo is, is so Drew Sedora. I mean, this is why I really vastly between being like, Oh my God, I can't stand Drew.
Starting point is 00:08:56 But also like, I like love, I think Drew is so like has become the perfect housewife because she's so delusional and she's so, she's's so she's so upwardly mobile and yet very stagnant at the same time. You know? Yeah. Okay. Well, Massapussy from Cambridge says, true, if you were dating someone, why don't you just come clean in order to shut down rumors about you wanting the hot dog man? And she's like, Oh my God, this is not my type.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I mean, if you know my type, I mean, look at Ralph. I like flat headed men, or I'm sorry, triangle headed men with really good physiques. And Portia's like, yeah, black's not all that either, baby. And she's like, oh, now you're coming for my friend. Now you're calling my hook a friend fat. She's like, well, you're coming for my friend. She's like, well, if you were dating someone, would you bring them on the show?
Starting point is 00:09:50 Absolutely. And when I have a boyfriend, I will be so happy to share who that boyfriend is. And Portia's like, or a girlfriend. She's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and push is like, no, we know honey, I know, come on. So it's hard joking about like, I'll bring and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then,
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Starting point is 00:10:24 and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, I love my Africans. That could be true. So next we move on to The hud's the boys here. They can guys are here Ralph Ralph This Ralph comes in and he's like says hi to Cynthia. She's don't sit next. Don't sit behind me I don't want to be in the shit show. All right, welcome back. Hey guys well, this this hodgepodge reunion continues with a scattering of men we've got Dennis the hot dog guy, Ralph, and Charles Oakley, cool. So he's like, so Dennis, you and Porsche are not even matching tonight.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Porsche's like, yeah, like I sent you a picture and Dennis is wearing like a red plaid blazer. I actually kind of like it, believe it or not. I wasn't, I wanted to hate it, but I secretly liked it. And then Andy doesn't like that Shemeah's husband didn't come. And she's like, he's staying at home with our children. He's like, couldn't get a babysitter. And she's like, oh yeah, this isn't really his thing.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Andy, so, and then we go to Charles, who's the enforcer, but he's just here to support his wife. Okay guys. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, and then we go to Charles, who's the enforcer, but he's just here to support his wife. Okay, guys? Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, Andy's like, all right, let me start with Dennis. Can you clear this up? Did you talk to Porsche about working with Drew?
Starting point is 00:11:37 And he's like, we had a small conversation, but you know, I talked to Ralph first because that's my brother, so I'd assume that Drew would handle this, handle the woman side. You guys, you know, men can talk to women. We are allowed to do these things. You are allowed to tell the lady that is also your, the mother of your child, like your business deal.
Starting point is 00:11:59 You're, you are allowed to do this. The fact that he's like, yeah, I talked to, I talked to, I talked to Ralph and I wanted Drew to do this. The fact that he's like, yeah, I talked to, I talked to, I talked to Ralph and I thought I wanted Drew to tell Porsche. I mean, what is, what sort of bullshit is this? This classic, I forgot how slippery he is too, like a boiled hot dog himself. Boys talk to boys and girls talk to girls. And Porsche is calling him out. She's like, oh really? Oh really? So you, you didn't talk to Drew. And he's like, well, you know, and she goes, so you're saying that you asked me about it? And he goes, well, we talked about working together.
Starting point is 00:12:31 She goes, and you told me? And he's like, well, we didn't have an in-depth conversation because I felt like it was Drew's place to clear that up because you know, boobs, you know, only you have boobs, she has boobs. So Drew's like, but you told me you talked to Portia because I was expressing to you
Starting point is 00:12:45 that I was trying to call Portia and have a conversation. And you said we had a conversation and she's good. All right. Well Dennis, when you confronted about mentioning that Drew wanted to sleep with you in exchange for music, which is the saddest indecent proposal of all time, sleeping with a hot dog guy to get a hit single. You kind of dodged by owning, by saying that. Like, did you tell Portia that Drew wanted to sleep with you?
Starting point is 00:13:12 And so Dennis is like, no, absolutely not. I definitely did not. So Portia's like, well, what was the text then, Dennis? And he's like, no, the text read, I'm trying to get some money and Drew wants to fuck me. That's all I wrote. So clearly, I don't know what you guys are hearing when I say that, but there was nothing about her I'm trying to get some money and Drew wants to fuck me. That's all I wrote. So clearly, I don't know what you guys are hearing
Starting point is 00:13:27 when I say that, but there was nothing about her wanting to have sex with me. And she's like, the tech said, I'm trying to get money. I'm not trying to fuck. That's what the tech said, forbid them. And so Drew is like, yeah, but that for the record was not from me. And she goes, okay, well now he's denying it,
Starting point is 00:13:43 which is just basically kind of what we knew this whole season. They're fighting over something that's Dennis' fault. Basically. Dennis just hoped he wouldn't get called by trying to get attention off of yet another housewife. So he's like, well, you know, Ralph's my friend in real life, so to insinuate a music,
Starting point is 00:14:01 a relationship outside of music is just ridiculous. And she's like, okay, well then what you were responding to when you said, I don't want anybody. And he's like, I don't even know if the text said that. She's like, we just showed the texts. So. So Ralph's like, well, just exactly what Portia said. I didn't know exactly what the relationship was,
Starting point is 00:14:21 but to me, it just became a little weird just because Drew had mentioned that she was like, I don't know, she was trying to holler at her. So, I don't know exactly what the relationship was, but to me, it just became a little weird just because Drew had mentioned that she was like, I don't know, she was trying to holler at herself. I don't know. And Drew was like, no, I never did this. And Ralph's like, I promise, I promise on everything that's what it said. I promise, she was trying to do that.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Drew's like, no, you're not gonna come on here and start lying. He's like, no, no, no, I'm being totally sincere. I'm a good guy, everyone. I'm Ralph, America's favorite Ralph. I'm not gonna lie about it, I would never lie. I'm Ralph, I'm being totally sincere. I'm a good guy, everyone. I'm Ralph, America's favorite, Ralph. I'm not gonna lie about it. I would never lie. I'm Ralph, I never lie.
Starting point is 00:14:47 So she's like, well, Dennis has never been inappropriate. I've never said that to you. And he's like, you never said that? And she goes, yeah, so for you to say that out of your lying face, I cannot wait to make pancakes with you later on camera. And he's like, I don't lie, I don't lie. That's one thing I'm not doing.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Ralph, you fucking lie all the time. Have you forgotten that you've been on camera for years lying now? Years, sir. You come on, come on, Ralph. You come on here and you got dressed up at all and you're white. You got your fade clean, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:15 you want to come here for the cameras. And every time you come here, do the same thing. You lie and then you play victim. It's not cute, bro. And if you don't, if you don't quiet up soon, I'm going to have to sing a song to your face again. Oh God. I wish she did.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Basement. You're in the basement with my heart. So she's like, get, um, oh, you're going to get all this smoke. That's what you came here for. And he's like, all right, come on. I love when she goes, ta. I want her to do that more. Ta.
Starting point is 00:15:46 So, so Andy's like, Dennis, do you see yourself getting back together with Portia? All of zero people in America care about this. And Dennis is like, I mean, you know, I really love Portia and she's back on the market. So you never know. And they're like, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I'm like, please, no more Dennis, please. So what does he feel that he's friends with Gerald and that Shemeah and Portia have trouble? And he's like, well, you know, I stay out of women's business, which is hilarious because
Starting point is 00:16:12 he's literally starting women's business drama to get on TV all year. But he's like, you know, Gerald has a penis, so I talked to him, but I stay out of the women's business because they'll probably be friends tomorrow. So I'm not getting into that. Sort of true. Yeah. Sort of true too. So then what about the allegations
Starting point is 00:16:30 that he took a Brit on a date and bought her a chain and also slid into Kelly's DMs. And he's like, okay, well, I heard what Kelly said, but she didn't say the other half, but that's all good. And she's, what was the other half? And he's like, well, you know, Brit was a long time ago before I was running around with Portia. And she was like, No, what was the other half? And Kelly's like, Yeah, I'm still waiting. And he
Starting point is 00:16:51 goes, Well, I'm a gentleman. So that's all good. She goes, Oh, stop it. Let's be clear. We never did anything or talked on the phone. You might have called once or twice. And Angela's like, Oh, that is talking on the phone. And then he's like, yeah, you said you never talked on the phone. And she goes, well, once or twice. I mean, like he called me, like, are you outside? No, I'm inside, you know, stuff like that. And he's like, what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yeah, it basically was like on a business level, they coordinated some things like, oh, I'm here. So then why that's fine. But then why did you go on camera and act like he crawled into your DMs? If like they accept their relationship? Yeah, that's fine, but then why did you go on camera and act like he crawled into your DMs if like they accept their relationship? Yeah, if they accept your relationship. Yeah, if they accept your relationship as just coordinating like chafers or something, you know?
Starting point is 00:17:32 I mean, look, here's just another example of Kelly. You know, you're up here, you're with Dennis and you look like the untrustworthy one now. And that's crazy. That is extreme untrustworthiness. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's crazy. That is extreme untrustworthiness. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial. Being an actual royal is never about finding your happy ending.
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Starting point is 00:20:53 How do you feel about that? Are you joining her cause? He's like no that's not even true. It's not. She's like really it's not true. No it's not true at all. Okay there never was a woman but there was a woman. And okay so she came to the house,
Starting point is 00:21:05 but she only came through the gate, but she didn't come into the house. But she came into the house. I mean, she came to the basement, but she wasn't in the house. She was outside, but in the basement and upstairs too. And I brought her around the kids, but I never brought her around the kids.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Stop saying I'm a liar. And Andy's like, so she was outside with Kelly? It was pretty good. And Ralph's like, no, no, no, it wasn't that. You know, we're working on a fitness program. You know, it's about fitness programs of stepfathers who adopt their stepsons. So.
Starting point is 00:21:31 They call me daddy in the kitchen. Yeah, it was just about that. With the kindergarten teacher. Let me just say this. Let me just say this. If someone wants to twinkle something on the keys, okay, when these cameras are off, you know, you love me, Drew, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:43 And you got this on camera, off camera thing, and that's really confusing me. And at the end of the day, man, I love you. I'm not here to be your enemy. I just want to make sure we raise beautiful kids on camera with lots of people. It's like I just don't understand why every time I just try to be a good person,
Starting point is 00:21:58 and then Drew drags me out here to make me look like liar or a bad person. It's just me, Ralph, who only wants to be good, good to women, good to families. Me, Ralph, the good one. I'll make love to you like you want me to. I'll be by your side. I'll write you a manifesto.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Come on, Drew, take me back. So Shumia's like, well, we were mad at you before you came out. And then he's like, yeah, we saw you feeding Drew steak. And he's like, well, that's how we are when there's no cameras. You know, that's how we are. We're just happy, you know, I chewed true steak
Starting point is 00:22:37 into our mouth. You know, I hashtag things daddy. That's just how it is. Drew's like, I mean, those are great words and I appreciate it, but like, you know, I would also love it if you could back up those words because like the energy that I know that I have because of the press tour that you've been on,
Starting point is 00:22:50 that's where my energy is coming from because you've been tweeting things about my mom and my dad and even my cousin, Michael Jordan. And like, I mean, there's not been an apology. And Ralph's like, yeah, but you hugged me. You hugged me, which shows that you're not really mad about the fact that I said to your mom he has to keep her mouth shut.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And Andy's like, but do you want to maybe apologize? Have you apologized? Are you gonna apologize? He's like, no, I mean, I will. I mean, I was there. Look, I was there when they were in a place where they lost everything. And I was like, I was there to pick up the pieces.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And as I always told my children, when someone loses everything, you go onto Twitter and you say, shut your fucking mouth about you complaining about me because I helped you. That's what the noble thing is to do. And Cynthia's like, well, I would like to add Ralph, be mindful of what you put on social media
Starting point is 00:23:35 because it brings everybody else into it. So I would just say that, countertops, hashtag call me countertops. She's really bringing some like big fortune cookie energy. Careful what you say, because it may come around. It cracks me up every time they cut to Cynthia. They're like, Cynthia, please just sit there and nod your head and say wise things every once in a while.
Starting point is 00:23:55 She's like, okay, got it, got it. I got this. So Ralph is basically like, well, I used to have a beautiful relationship with Drew's mom and I want to get back to there and I will apologize. I will. So, it was the easiest thing to,
Starting point is 00:24:08 how about just don't say it in the first place. So now we move to Charles. So how does he think Angela did? And he's like, you know, she did great. She cried a couple of times, but just, you know, like I said, honey, you know, you jumped in the pool. You got to know how to swim. And he's like, Okay, well, there,
Starting point is 00:24:25 it looks like you hate your wife on TV. So what's that about? Do you look like you hate her fucking guts? What was that about? Yeah. And he's like, Well, you know, I'm her husband. You know, I give her back. And you know, I have her back through thick and thin, but I'm just like, not I'm not someone who like, really likes to show that shit, like whatever, you know? And so Andy's like, well, people didn't know you were married. So
Starting point is 00:24:50 what's up with that? Are you hiding your wife? And he's like, no, I don't hide my wife. I don't know. I don't know who's married either. I hear it all the time. So you don't hide her, but you don't tell anybody that you're married. Is that what you're saying? And he was like, well, a lot of people, they don't know me, but they, you know, you know, Shumia, I just met for the first time on the show, but she said she was at Dominique wedding and I was there. And she goes, Shumia is like, well, I've met you several times.
Starting point is 00:25:14 He goes, where? She goes, well, you might not know me. I mean, obviously you're a legend, but you know, you're at Nick's wedding. And he goes, but you didn't meet me. I was there, but that's not me. He kept saying this to everyone. And I love that his energy was like, just like, who are you people? He's like, why are we? Why are you talking to me right now? I'm just here because
Starting point is 00:25:35 my wife asked me to, I don't need this bullshit. Please stop trying to come for me because I can destroy all of you and I don't need any of you. And I really don't care what you say about me. I think it's annoying that he's like, no, you don't really know me, so what, you met me? That doesn't mean you know me. She said she met you. She doesn't say she know you. Like, why are you acting like it's like,
Starting point is 00:25:52 it's this huge thing to have met you before? He's like, you've never met me, how dare you? Cause he's probably dealt with like a lot of fakers who are like, oh my God, like, you know, you meet someone once and they're like, oh my God, I'm totally friends with Charles Oakley. And he's like, I don't know you. But in this case, it was, what was actually funny is that he was actually wrong because they show pictures
Starting point is 00:26:11 of him, like pictures of him and Shamiah, like they at a wedding. So they definitely did meet or him and Gerald, right? Yeah. Well, no, there's, but, uh, well, I think Shamiah was in one of the pictures, I think, but either way I did like, I just liked how flummox they were by him because they're trying to be like, well, we know each other. And he's just like, we were in a room together, but we didn't actually meet.
Starting point is 00:26:34 They didn't know how to deal with it. And they were all kind of stumbling, but we know you. And he's like, no, I don't remember you. So Ansel is like, Shamia's like, well, I don't remember you. So Angela's like, Shumya's like, well, I met you at my party and I met your husband, you know, MBA at the game. And I said, hey, but I never,
Starting point is 00:26:52 she said something like, I met you, but I don't know you or something like that. She goes, but I wasn't digging at you. And Angela's like, well, I felt like it was a dig because you said all these years I knew Charles, I never knew he had a wife. So I'm like, how could you know he's married if he doesn't know you?
Starting point is 00:27:06 And Shemei is like, but I have met him. And she goes, okay, but you don't know him. And she's like, okay. So Andy says, Charles, do you remember meeting Phaedra? And he's like, no. And so Phaedra's asked where they met. And she's like, well, I mean, I've been in several rooms with him.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And he's like, okay. So one of those rooms could have been a bathroom. What do I know? I don't know her. I do not know this person. She's like, not in the same bathroom. So Charles was like, I don't know, I don't care. So Phaedra was like, well, I know Sheree very well.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And I remember when y'all were a couple at one point, which somehow I actually didn't know that by the way. And he's like, yeah, he's like, okay, we were a couple. That doesn't mean you know me though. I mean, me and Sheree were a couple. And Pidge was like, I know you were a couple. She goes, well, why do people say they know us personally? Because I know Sheree. She's like, what I'm saying is I have been in your presence on numerous occasions. He's like, where? With Sheree. So, so it's like, why is the conversation whether I'm married or not? Like everyone here wants to know about me.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Well, what about you all? I'm only husband here. Where y'all's husband's at? Where y'all husband's? That was great. I mean, actually it got away from the point which was that like, okay, Phaedra may have met Charles or may have known about Charles,
Starting point is 00:28:21 but she did go on camera acting like she goes way back with Charles and he never talks about having a wife. And they all kind of spoke like they had more proximity to him than they really do. And so that's why he's like, what's wrong with you people? Well, I think a lot of what they're saying, cause even Angela, when Angela and Charles right now,
Starting point is 00:28:38 when they talk about their marriage, which is coming up, but when they, I think everybody's saying like this, Charles is cheating and doing all sorts of stuff around town, like, and then you meet Angela and she's like bragging that she's his wife or whatever. And you're like, oh, Charles Oakley, like I've been around Charles Oakley and nobody, like if someone says I've been around this person
Starting point is 00:28:58 and you would never know they have a wife, that insinuates that that person's been like in the streets, right? Which I think was the insinuation, which is what he's getting at. He's like, so what is this conversation? But no one's gonna say, because he's too famous, I think.
Starting point is 00:29:11 No one is gonna just say, well, you've clearly been cheating on her over and over again for years, sir. That's why we're saying it. Like, what are you not understanding? It's not about trying to pretend that we're your best friends. We're saying Angela's acting like she has this happy marriage
Starting point is 00:29:24 when her husband's blatantly cheating on her for all of these years in public, right? Yeah, and like he's too famous and he also clearly doesn't wanna play any games. So they're like a little like, they're sort of like don't know how to approach him. Which is I think that's the articulation of why I was amused,
Starting point is 00:29:39 cause they didn't like, they know how they can deal with rough. They didn't have the guts to do it. They had the guts to insinuate it, but when it came down to it, they're like, I'm saying nothing. Okay, thank you. But you know what I thought was genuinely funny? It was when Charles was like,
Starting point is 00:29:51 where's where all your husbands? And Portia's like, I actually generally don't know where my husband is. So then Andy asks about a charade. And I guess they did it back in 2005, like a long time ago, so it was pretty Sheree, even on Bravo. And-
Starting point is 00:30:11 And Sheree is not desperate and doesn't pretend like she's still with my husband, like other people. And Andy's like, okay, well, you know, a lot of people talking about the outside baby, let's talk about outside babies. And he's like, where else do you have babies? I mean, if you had a baby and it stayed inside it would never grow up And if it did grow up it would kill the mother because you can't hold an adult in your stomach
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah, well, you know all this talk about babies. Where's everyone's babies, but okay Charles, so then he says He just asked him where things are that's what he's gonna do from now on He says that Wendy Williams had a cook off for charity because this is Charles' thing. He cooks. It's like, wait, I can cook for 400 people? I'm in. So then Angela, he sort of retreads the whole story
Starting point is 00:30:54 how Angela talked to Wendy and then Wendy misinterpreted and brought it to her show and made it a whole big thing and turned the whole story around. And then Angela is saying like, you know, like, yeah, the Charles has a side baby and the story's out there. And by the way, Charles, tell them about the time Wendy invited you over for dinner. And he's like, oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:14 She was like, you want to come over, have some wine? But she had a cat and I was allergic to cats, so I couldn't go. That's the story. And that's just like, wait, so if she had a, she didn't have a cat, you would have went. And he's like, well, I drink wine. So, and she's like, but you're saying
Starting point is 00:31:30 you would have gone on a date. And he goes, well, I would have had a glass of wine. And is that a date? Is that a date? And he's like, I mean, I don't know. And he's like, I said I would have a glass of wine. And she goes, but that's a date. He goes, okay, then whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 00:31:45 She goes, oh God. Well, Angela, you brought up the story. You brought it up. Why does she bring up a story that she's like, oh, tell him that good story. And she's acting like she's never heard it before. I think it keeps backfiring. I think she wanted him to be like,
Starting point is 00:32:00 yeah, she's coming after me. Like I had all these side babies, but then she's trying to date me. But then it turns into like, I would have gone. So then Andy asks about Mass Square Garden. And they talk about how that you know, he Charles talks about how he was really frustrated with that. And they say it was a strain on the relationship.
Starting point is 00:32:19 But then they started therapy. And it's been really helpful. And he's just like really happy that Angela stayed strong with him. And then Shemeah tries- It basically was interesting, I thought, because the way they phrased it, she said, okay, he got kicked out of Madison Square Garden and this is a man with a gigantic ego.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And I think he started with all these other women. You know, there were all these other women because he needed to feed his ego basically. So she was like, so I was out of there. Which kind of goes back to lending the things that the other ladies were saying at Linsic Credence, right? So- So then Shemeah tries to be funny and she's like,
Starting point is 00:32:55 well, so just to be clear, you would take Wendy Williams for a glass of wine, not Wendy the therapist. And they put this poor therapist up on screen. Like, can you not make this lady the butt of a joke when she's here just trying to help you two people, like, you know, figure out their emotional states. Like, just for Wendy the therapist.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I like that Charles didn't get it at all. And he goes, no, they're two different people. He really did not get it. The kid gets upset. Like, you think I'm going to Wendy Williams for fucking therapy, really? He's like, but Wendy the therapist does have a cat in case you didn't see her photo,
Starting point is 00:33:27 in case it wasn't clear from her photo. So basically they're talking about going to therapy and how much it helps. And so Andy's like, okay, before I let the guys go, anyone else want to say or clear up anything else from the season? And Kelly's like, well, I would like to know what my ex-husband told you, Ralph,
Starting point is 00:33:46 you know, getting on Ralph for apparently hanging out with this dude. And he's like, well, I mean, you know, uh, circumstances of your divorce, you know, I mean, it was nothing else to share. She's like, and she goes, I appreciate that. I appreciate it. What do you appreciate? What did he say? Well, how could, how could that response ever like engender appreciation? She's like, and let me just tell you this. I think it's amazing that you, Drew, that you still have a man and a husband that wants to take care of his children.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I don't have that. Just a reminder that I don't have a man in my life. I only have these bangles. And that's it, okay? So I'm the real victim here, everyone. Anyone wanna pay attention to me? Yeah, Kelly's like, I may not have a lot in this reunion, but I do have the worst divorce of the season.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Can we cement that? Thank you. Yes. Can we lock that in, please? So Ralph- I'm putting my Kelly Bangle props away. Makes it through a reunion by looking like the best guy up there. So thanks a lot, ladies. Ralph's a piece of crap, okay?
Starting point is 00:34:44 I don't know, I thought Charles came off the best. I thought Charles So thanks a lot, ladies. Ralph's a piece of crap. Okay. I thought Charles came off the best. I thought Charles came off better than Ralph did. Yeah. But I mean, they're making, they're making Ralph seem like a fucking hero after all of this Charles. It was weird that the women were kind of like nice to Ralph. They were like, well, thank you. Thanks for saying that. Yeah. So, okay. Bye guys. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:35:07 So, now we're backstage and, you know, just like some wacky backstage stuff. Shamia passes Charles and she's, you know me, right? And he goes, now I do. Like, not amused. And then we go back to the reunion and we're back. And, yeah, and by talking about your time, I time, I drew is like, well, you know, for me, most definitely like the thing that made me happy being in a better place with Portia, because I think
Starting point is 00:35:35 today we hurt each other, but like, and we found our way back to some apologies and some healing. And so I appreciate the accountability and the grace that we're extending to one another. And if I ever were to write a manifesto, it would be about my love for Portia. Thank you very much, America. And Kelly is like, well, you know, we did this group of girls. I mean, we're just going through a journey. And I really hope and pray for Shamiah and P because, you know, I had a friendship like this with Britt and you're you were friends with Britt for five minutes. Can we not?
Starting point is 00:36:07 She's like, I had the other main relationship in this show that went sour this season. And as someone on the other side of it, I hope you two can make it because I'm still crushed by my best friend of all time, Britt, who I knew for 30 seconds before filming. Don't do as I do. Let me be an example to everyone here
Starting point is 00:36:28 about divorce and friendship. I died for your sins, everyone. Yeah, Phaedra had the best two weeks ever. She had the best trip she's ever had, so they all cheer for that. And then Angela's turn, and Angela, you know, she really is grateful for her fangilas. And she just was grateful she got to shoot with her mom because that's a cool thing to always have. And then yeah, Cynthia, give us some guidance, Cynthia. She's like, well,
Starting point is 00:36:59 I just I didn't know what I was expecting to come back, but it has been great, nodding a lot. And I wanna say shout out to all the fantheas or should I call them Cynthia's Cynthia and army rise up. Thanks so much everyone. So Shamia is like, well, I was so open with my feelings and I hope that moving forward, you will all go to my Instagram to watch an apology video that has tinkly piano music on it.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And he's like, okay, Portia, you've got 20 minutes for your final monologue. And she gets it. I've had rough seasons on the show before, but none this transformative. I mean, honestly, to be able to sit and watch yourself, not be at your best. I don't blame anyone but me, but mainly Shamia too. And honestly, I don't even blame myself. I pretty much blame Shamia. But I have to say, as a woman sitting up here with other divorces, and I think arguably
Starting point is 00:37:58 having the worst divorce the season, we can all agree. Sorry, Kelly. I just have to say, thank God that I'm sitting here with my right mind And you know to shimmy, I really hate the way the way the season went. I hate That you got so swallowed up by fame that you became awful I continue to love you and your daycare stealing mother. I continue to cheer for you Maybe not your mother's daycare, but I cheer for you So I put a button on that by saying I love everybody that are on these couches except for Shemeah Yeah, she goes. Oh and also I brought a fan so we can teach Andy the fan dance
Starting point is 00:38:30 and so they like a line dance with Andy and That's it. And then Andy twerks, which yeah I don't know that anybody needed that but wow, what a season some real boots on the ground. Um Yeah, this yeah, what a season. Some real boots on the ground. Yeah, this, yeah, it's over. It's over. It's over. We did it everybody, we did it. I think looking back now, we realized this actually could have just been one super-sized reunion.
Starting point is 00:38:58 One episode, one super-sized episode and we could have been in and out. But it's done. And you know, I'm looking forward to next season. I think that they put some good building blocks in there. And I think we're going to, I think, I think we're just, you know, these it's re it's a re rebuilding season for, for Atlanta. It's like our favorite sports teams that sometimes you have a championship team
Starting point is 00:39:21 and sometimes you just have a rebuilding season. That's where we are looking forward to seeing what happens next time around. All right, everybody. Thanks for being with us. We'll talk to you next time. Bye. Watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King. It's always a party on Alison Block. Our way is the Amber way. It's the Foster and the Furious. It's Amanda Foster. She can run my country. It's Angie McGovern. It's always automatic with Ashley Otto. Put your hands together for Carly Clapp. Get on the right foot with Chrissy Offutt. She's not just a Sheila, she's a Daniela.
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