Watch What Crappens - #2963 Crappy Hour 8-11-25: Dorit Writes, Heather Reads, Gretchen Flails

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

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Well, who cares what happens when there's so much than crappy. Well, hello, I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben, and welcome to Crappy Hour. How are you doing today, Ben? I am great, thanks. How are you doing? Not great, Ben. I had some terrible news this week having to do with Tonya Haddicks from Chimp Crazy. She is going to jail for loving chimps. So is it even worth going on? I don't think so. I can't even believe I'm doing this today. I've been very upset. I mean, if you can't abduct a chimp and hide it from the authorities and lie in a courtroom, what can you do? Right. But I love her. I don't care that she did anything wrong. I still love Tanya. I don't want her to go to jail. The star of HBO's Chimp Crazy will spend almost four years in federal prison for lying about a chimp named Tonka.

Well, yeah. I mean, if that's, I don't know. What, I mean, what can you do in life anymore, right? Can you even cross the street without waiting for a light to blink anymore for fuck's sake? So anyway, this is. This is our weekly, or our biweekly, I guess, show about all things Bravo, but I had to slip that one in there right at the beginning because I'm really bummed and I don't like it. Stay strong, Tanya. Freeze, Tanya. Yeah, freeze Tanya. You know what? She would even frees her.

She would love that. Yeah. I would actually love it to freeze me. Freeze her until we get laws that are more protective of people who care too much about chips. I mean, the woman's addicted to chimps, okay? Give an addict to break. I feel like I saw a picture of her, like in jail or a mugshot or something, and, you know, she didn't have her wig anymore. They just, she didn't have all her glam.

And I just, I was sad. I don't like seeing that side of time. Yeah. I want to see her sort of 7-Eleven version of Jennifer Coolidge. So, yeah, it's, it's tough. It's a tough time right now. It really is. The point you just brought up is totally valid and correct.

This is unfair that they're showing her without her glam. without her wigs without her this without her that they don't give anybody else that disrespect they let fucking karen go to prison looking decent i think every i'm assuming i mean you can't do this to her everyone gets to go to prison looking decent but tanya is the one that they single out they say wig has to come off it's not right that's not fair i i agree all right well that's that's tanya stay strong over there tanya if you're watching this from wherever we love you maybe someone will hide tanya in the back of a truck and bring her to a motel and bring her to the basement of some place in missouri girl you know that's why i'm going to jail they're going to find tanya in my basement

i'm going to be like what you're no one here i don't know what you're talking about and then the big twist in episode three is you're going to find her in my basement i've got a big tanya i brought you some chicken nuggets and some milky days just bring her all the snacks all the good stuff stuff and then you could play games with her where you like run around from like around her cage back and forth. Well, you know, I've been playing virtual reality games on this meta quest three, which I know it's stupid. Everybody's going to make fun of me. I don't even care. So I'm not going to play games with her, but I will keep her in the basement and she can just watch me do this. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! A common thing that people do in West Hollywood live, just for reference.

Can we give a show? out to marissa who is here in the chat how she says hello rani and ben it's my 60th birthday happy birthday marissa spending a portion of them with us sarah staying sexy man it congratulations happy birthday yeah happy birthday babe yeah that's amazing no one took your no one took your shellac for your face today no one did that to you like that so just remember how How lucky you are today, Marissa. You still get to look hot. Yeah. You know, this is a great segue into something that I feel like is a very important topic for today. Speaking of people not getting to look their best on a public platform, should we talk about Larsa Pippen, who had a picture, a still of her from a morning show go, I would not say viral, viral, but like for Larsa it was viral.

it was just her looking she just looked puffed up everything looked puffed up more puffy than usual now i think for those of us who watch real house as in miami this feels like par for the course um we watch these women's faces adjust and sink in and puff up again in real time across the season but i think for a lot of people they hadn't checked in with larsa for a while and they're like whoa what happened with larsa so she was getting a lot of shit about her face they're like oh my god what did you do to your face what you could do your face as if like all this time it had been normal it's like wait a second larsa can we can we ask the real question what haven't you done to your face i mean girl staple shalax nail gun you know chainsaw the sewing club like you've done it everything got to have a hobby

got to have a hobby so larsa has actually come out with a uh she came out with a response and in the response, it's her face tuned, but it's a video. It's on her, I think on her Instagram. I'm going to try to play the audio through this. So that way we get the full larceness of it all. So hopefully you can hear it. I'm going to press play. Oh, put up the video too, could you? Is it her Instagram? Oh, yeah. I think I can do that. I think it's important to, I think it's important because, you know, it's her face. The story's about her face. So I'm looking at it right now and it's, it's her face. I mean, I don't know. I don't think there's anything wrong. And by the way, this is not look shaming somebody.

This is like crazy craft shaming somebody. This woman's crafting is her face. That's what she likes to do. You know, some of us buy stupid video games like me to play. Some of them, you know, buy cars. Larsa buy a shit for her face. She's like the Miss Potato Head of our time. And that is her right.

Both on the outside and the inside. Okay, so you can see here. Here we are on X. You're a real potato on the inside. She's a real potato. She's a sprouted potato. Okay, this is courtesy of Queens of Bravo, and I'm going to press play. Hopefully you all hear it.

Okay, so I feel like that photo went viral. I'm wondering if someone made it look like that, because this is what my face looks like, you guys. I'm on TV, so you know what I look like. I just shot my reunion a couple of days ago, so you'll see what I look like at my reunion. I did have PRP. I did have an allergic reaction to the PRP, which I didn't even know you can have. So my face is a bit swollen, but it doesn't look like that. So keep on hating, guys.

Okay, so. So keep on hating. Guys, I love Larsa saying that her picture went viral. Guys, as you may know, I know that there's a picture of me that broke the Internet, most popular picture, just was trending everywhere. Everyone couldn't stop talking about it. cover of time magazine i feel like i feel like like it like went fire like but i feel like it's my like face like okay so she said she had an allergic reaction to PRP which is a treatment that uses a concentration of your own blood platelets to remote promote healing in various conditions so

you're allergic to your own blood you know that's unfortunate well like you know like i didn't want to say this but like half my blood at this point is hard to even say what it is they say there's dolphin in it like raccoon like uh jellyfish like i've had so many treatments like it's hard to know what animal's in me like dolphin um look i will i will agree with what she's saying i'm very agreeable today do you like it i can agree with what she's saying like when she said um guys this is my face that's her face i really don't know how that picture said anybody else because that's what she looks like in the season premiere. So I think maybe in the season premiere, she had just gotten a lot of stuff done.

And so it was still, you know, crazy looking. And now it's, it's normal crazy looking. I mean, it's always going to be crazy looking, you know. It's like trying to make a bounce house not fun. They're always fun. Okay. Bounce houses are fun. But they are, you know what balance houses?

You know what bounce houses are so good at flying away during a tornado? I swear, I just watched that this morning. I was like, I'm going to go back on TikTok. I'm never on TikTok. First thing I see is like thunderstorms in Nebraska. And it was like just lots of footage of bouncy houses, bouncy castles just flying through the sky. It's like if you're a trampoline and you're a bouncy house, you know there's one thing that's going to happen in your life. You can get blown away.

Well, bless her heart. You know, she has a right to do whatever the fuck she wants with her face. So, you know, have fun, have fun making, being crazy. I do remember way back in the day in Miami, but someone in the comments is calling her mom. Elsa and I remember back in the day when she was like oh my god mama Elsa remember she made those comments like ooh that's just so much plastic surgery I would never you know that reminds me of when I was younger and I'd be like oh my god plastic surgery Botox I would never of course I'm 25 I'm gonna say that you know if you don't need it when you're 25 it's like when you're already

hungry and someone's like are you hungry and you're like I'm not ordering food I don't need to ever eat again you do the next day you know eventually you need it again so I don't know Be careful what you say, young people, because this is what you could be, or me with my bruised eyes. You know, you end up somewhere. Your eyes are looking fab. I also want to say that some people in the comments are saying that Dr. Jen, aka Jen Armstrong, formerly of Orange County, said that you can't have an allergic reaction to PRP. Now, I don't know where everyone saw it, because I just tried to do some last minute Googling here, and it didn't make any headlines, but maybe she said it on her social media. I love that Dr. Jen weighed in, and, you know,

She said it on the video. You mean Dr. Jen? You couldn't find evidence Dr. Jen said it or what? I couldn't see the, I just couldn't see where everyone was talking about that Dr. Jen said you can't have an allergic reaction. Oh, oh, I thought you meant you couldn't find the Larsa. I thought you meant you couldn't find Larsa saying it was an allergic reaction. I was like, was her face that, the stark thing? She just said it.

I said it like, I guess it's on Dr. Jen's at Greal. I feel like maybe like I said it like, what is. with people who are possible narcissists who do this with their hair. They grab their hair and they pull it. It's something we've noticed a lot throughout the years. And you know who's bad at it? Narcissus. And I've noticed that like Kim Zulsiak.

Kim Zolsiak does it all the time. She's double, like she's double crazy, pulling the hair, like milking the kill. She's got to pull one for, one for Breel and one for Adriana, or Ariana. Um, one for every dollar I steal from Arianna. The more you pull your hair, the more dollars come out of her account. Pulling, pulling, pulling.

Oh, gosh. Listen, if Larsa can't have a crazy face, then what are we even doing in this world? You know, you go, you go Larsa. You go off. Okay. Next, I think something that's been fun. Well, first, I guess before we move to some Orange County stuff, have you heard this Lindsay, uh, Lindsay Hubbard is getting a spin-off?

I have not heard that, and I would love you to tell me about it. Well, I'm trying to find articles, like real articles, no offense, bravo and cocktails. It's not like you're not real, but I mean like, where's Diane Sawyer? You know what I mean? I almost always ask that when Lindsay Hubbard comes up. Where's Diane's here? I'm not even saying you're not real, but you know, bravo and cocktails does do like blind items and, you know, gossip. It's like someone coming to us for news, you know, you don't do it.

So Lindsay Hubbard reveals co-parenting struggles with Turner, blah, blah, blah. Okay. But where's the spinoff part? It says Lindsey Hubbard's just going to spin class. Well, actually, all it says, it's a picture of Lindsay. And it says, Lindsay Hubbard's spinoff starts filming September 1st. We'll share as I get more information. And that's all I got.

But that's from Bravo and Cocktails. So I don't know. I would imagine it would need to be more people than just, Lindsay, right? Does Lindsay ever really need more people than just Lindsay? I would love to see Bravo's first ever one woman's show, just Lindsay doing things. Yeah, I was thinking it might be like an AI clickbait article, but I found it in Bravo and Cocktail. So who knows, you guys, because you know those AI ones are like, Carrie Underwood told the view to shove it.

She's suing them for $50 million. I believe everything. You have to Google everything you read now, because it's mostly just. just AI slop. But maybe Lindsay can fight with AI slop. I don't know. But Lindsay does need other people. AI slop is also what I casually called the summer house.

Can Lindsay, can Lindsay spin-off be her just calling up Bravo and cocktails and be like, um, did you hear about Carrie Underwood suing the view for $50 million? And then Bravo and cocktails could be like, no, You're really making me giggle, like a little high-pitched giggle, like a little cute Billsbury doughboy giggle over here.

Since you're talking about Summer House, I have another question. Since you came to me with a question, I'm going to answer the question of my own. I saw a billboard the other day on Melrose Avenue, and I'm going to send it to my to my Mac for my phone. I would like to know if this is Lexie Wood. Okay. I am I try I did like light research and then but I was driving. I didn't want to crash. I was like I'm definitely not going to crash my car on account of Lexie Wood. So here it comes here comes the image. Is this Lexie Wood? Oh gosh. It's so little. It says Princess Polly. It's a billboard. Princess Polly. Let's see it looks like her. The lip liner. I feel like this. I mean you can see the lip liner from the lip liners away. So yeah, I think it's her. Although she usually only only. covers the breast part. She always wears something that's kind of like a bikini top. So I don't, I mean, is Polly a fashion brand or is it lipstick? I've never seen it. Or is it for people who just want to date a lot of people at one time? Wait a second. I am just looking at it right now and I'm

like, is that, is that her sister making adjustments? Oh my God. How did her sister get up there? She got up there with a big paint brush to line her lips. Wow. And made a perfect circle. Wow. What's your sister doing? Oh, yeah. Wow.

It's perfect. Okay. So it is her. That's so cool. God, the magic of the video. Tell me. It was, I did it in the preview application.

And I accidentally did like this thing where the drawing on her face. I was trying to do more of a pencil look. And I came out just as a weird circle. But that's okay. We are, oh anyway um this is a good one uh kensley what is kensley's name kenley collins was her name right kenley collins did you read her stuff i just read this coming into this so i didn't have time to write it down kenley collins went off uh this is from dolphin girl who gave us this story uh thank you for the

reminder so kenley collins goes off on andy cohen on an instagram post saying that he's worse than Harvey Weinstein. And when he was on the set of Project Runway, he was always treating all the designers like Twinks that he could use and running around and being like, hey, twink, which I don't know, I don't know. Andy, look, I will say the shocking thing in that is that Andy usually gets like hot stripper types, not really project runway designer types. So I don't know. But the point is Kenley is going off and saying she's got a lot to share from. Wow. God, what, 20 years ago? I mean, when was that?

How long has that show been on? She was like season five, right? It was a long time ago. It was like OG run. I'm not going to weigh in either way whether she is telling the truth or not. But it is a little surprising to me that when Bethany Frankel was doing the whole

reality reckoning thing that she didn't speak up at that moment. You know, obviously people speak up for different times. She does bring that up. And she said, here, let me find the exact quotes. Um, so blah, blah, blah. Do you guys really think Harvey Weinstein was the worst one on set? Andy Cohen's was, Andy Cohen was.

Andy Cohen was disgusting, horrible, worst predator with the gays, hopping around the set like, hey, twinks. Hey, twinks. Hey, twinks. That's exactly what we often do. Hey, Twinks. I think I've said that before to people. So, um, uh, she referenced former Atlanta star Nini Leaks, who claimed that Cohen had created a hostile workplace and she yeah basically basically trying to lend credence to that so i don't know i don't

know what's going on with her why this is coming out now but it'll be interesting to see what comes of that yeah that's um that's uh that'll be interesting to see i'm sorry because i got distracted because i was looking at kennley collins and an article from 2009 came up that said jail was really funny cat attack runway finalist. Kenley Collins, the cat throwing project runway contestant needed to help her future potential designer and human meat. Wait, what is the

Kenley Collins threw a cat? I don't remember her throwing a cat. And Bumble Bear tells us Kenley was in season 5, 2008. So 17 years ago. Dolphin

says she was insufferable then. She's still the same. Meanwhile, she came back for all stars. Can't stand her. I don't think the shit would stand for that. But, you know, I don't know. I would like to hear if he's done stuff like that. I don't think going on set and saying, hey, twinks, is sexual abuse. But, you know, obviously I'm going to hold off my opinion until I hear what she has to say.

Exactly. Emory makes a good point in the comments. Harvey raped women. Navy raped people. Yes. Yes. That's quite different than what anything that Andy Cohen has been accused of so far. It's time for commercial.

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and afree join wondering plus right now bumble bear says my friend who worked on top chef said he was rude when he visited the set but nothing predatory um which i think just tracks i mean that's andy right he's rude on the reunions right right right no i thought he had a reputation for being nice to everybody he is nice but he's but the way he's able the way he like clocks people one could say is rude that's what i meant like he's like he's he's not like always going to be rosy And I know you weren't contesting us, but it's just funny. So, by the way, did you get a chance to see the new project runway yet?

No, you said it said, so I didn't watch it. Also, now that things are coming, the more episodes, how many have there been three? Three, I haven't watched the third yet. It's just too much, because now I have to sit down and watch it for like a whole day, you know? It's too much project runway. And it's one show every two months. Yeah. La Roach is very funny.

La Roach is super funny. But like, yeah, I read controversy about it today that one of the contestants, the producers told this contestant to show up and drag. And so he did show up and drag. But then once he got there, they were like, oh, you're just letting your drag persona take over because your stuff is too much. And they called one of his designs like Volvo, is it a vulva, a uvula? Wow.

Some woman part. And then Heidi said, it looks like bottle opener. And so he was all upset that he got tricked into doing drag, only to be dragged down, if you will. Wow. So that kind of got me interested. And then La Roach supposedly said, I'm mad that I even had to come here to look at bad fashion. You guys are wasting my time. I could have been at lunch.

Yeah, the vibe, it actually, I would not, I'm not surprised that he would say that. It does feel like the vibe is that they're kind of trying to be a little bit more like drag race on the show, where it's like, I don't know, it's like just trying to be joking. I don't know. I just don't like it anymore. Debbie Antin says everybody has a uvula. Okay, well noted, you know. God, I'm learning a lot today. Don't tell people high twinks and I have a uvula. Yeah, I'm writing out of my note.

Charlie Brown is the Charlie Brown thing. I have a uvula. I would like to talk about something else. Putting that on a t-shirt. This is, I, I'm bringing, I am, we all have a uvula. I'm bringing up something here. This is a minor story, but, It's one that I've just been so fascinated with it for the past, like, two months.

The ongoing tale of the crypto kidnappers in New York City. So I guess New York Magazine came out with a big article about it, which I tried to read, but it's behind a paywall. However, luckily, the Everybody's Business But Mine podcast. Love her. Yes, Kara, yes. We love Kara. she took a screenshot of the most important part of the article, which is Charlie's involvement from NextGen, New York City. So it's a very small part of the article.

But from what we, I can even just read it out loud, which is that the guys, the villains of the story, the guys who, for those who you don't know, abducted this guy and tortured him because they wanted access to his Bitcoin account. And this guy would not give it up. And so they held him in this townhouse. in New York City for like two or three weeks, torturing him.

And the meantime, these, these assholes also were like throwing parties. And so they had an assistant, this guy named Morgan O'Connor, who was a, quote, unquote, a well-connected club rat and former model known for a striking look, white with waist-length dreadlocks. And then this guy, Morgan O'Connor, seemed to know every bottle girl in the city, and he soon brought on Charlie Zaccour, a handsome 30-year-old, starring on Bravo's Real House Wives spin-off next gen. And I'm sure that Charlie loves being referred to as someone on a Real Housewives spin-off.

So we learned that they grew up together and the Manhattan Party Circuit. They both dated Lindsay Lohan. And what they basically, their job was to find young women to party with, to bring young women to this townhome for the parties with these abductors. And so Charlie would like, he told a friend, they're going to drop stupid money like, life-changing amounts of money. And I think we all know, we can totally imagine Charlie's saying that. And he goes, they're ready to spend. And there was an unusual source to help stock the parties at 38 Prince, the Soho location of Brandy Melville on nearby Broadway. And so basically,

the article then goes on to say that the clothing shop is known for employing attractive young women, many of them part-time models. Zikor had dated several of them over the years and often brought them and their friends to clubs and after parties and sometimes he dropped by the store just to hang out leading one employee to ask herself what's an unc doing at brandy so that's the end of his involvement in the article but i just love that he was lingering in this store and all the young sales girls the hot models were like who is this old guy creeping out over here so that is so wait charlie was like creeping in the store trying to get girls to come to this crypto townhouse Yeah, for parties.

And he would go in there and creep out and they were like, who is this unk? And Kara actually writes a great comment. What is like uncle? Yeah. That's what my niece is call me unk. You're literally an uncle. Yeah. Kara says, obsessed with this New York City crypto torture story, more obsessed with Charlie

from next gen New York City, essentially recruiting teen employees from Brandy Melville to the house, only to be referred to as an unc by then being confused why you hung out in the store so often. It's so good. Oh, Charles. So that's the update on that. There's not much to say about it, but for those who wanted further texture on his whole involvement in that scandal, that is the, that is the deal so far. Well, you want to talk about a real unc? Yes, real unk.

Carl Radkeye has revealed, guys, hold yourselves. Carl Radke has revealed to us weekly news. My middle name is Carl. We always, for whatever reason, as a family, went by our middle names. So my brother even went by his middle name. But on my ID and passport, my first name, wait for it's William. It's crazy, right? It's an obscure name that only people who live in a certain neighborhood of Pittsburgh

we really got. I can change it. You know, it's like it's a high shame name. It's William with a soft day. Carl is wearing a sleeveless tennis sweater with no shirt under it in this article, and he is gearing up for the official opening of soft bar and cafe. Could have called it Billy Carl. Just.

And I didn't get to space until January. We didn't start building until March. And, um, yeah, so guess what? From the time I've signed it to the time we'll be opening, soft-circled. August 27th is going to be a grand opening. So, wow, August 27th, that's next week. Two weeks. Two weeks.

Well, that's almost perfectly aligned with Labor Day weekend, famously, the season finale of Summerhouse. I hope he makes it. By the way, I just want to say we have a great bot in the chat. This is Gloria, who says, my name is Gloria Pushfonte. I'm America's favorite gay aunt. I'm here to remind you to clean your foreskin when it was the last time you cleaned out your foreskin cheese. It's a great question that she asks. Thank you for being here, Gloria.

Gloria, if you get four-skin cheese, you've waited too long. You know what I mean? You need to be better. You need to be a little bit more on top of it with your tips. If there's already cheese, you miss something, Gloria. You're late. Wait, she says, I'm not a bot, queen. I'm a real gay lesbian.

Okay. Very nice. All right. Thank you. I don't know. Does that make it better? Either one will get better at your foreskin checks because you're behind. Yes.

So, yeah, that's the big Carl news. I know everybody was dying to hear it, so I had to share. It's actually so funny because I was walking to the gym today, and I walked by a restaurant that I feel like it's going to close very soon. And I was like, I'm surprised this restaurant has stayed open for so long. And I was like, oh, I bet when it closes, I wonder if they have a good guy clause. I literally was like, I was saying good guy clause to myself in Carl voice. Oh, good guy claws. Good guy claws.

What restaurant was it? It's a place called Mr. T's. And I really want to go there. I still haven't been. I'm contributing to the problem. Like T.E.A.S. It's like Mr. T. Like Mr. T. I think it's called Mr. T.

It's like Mr. T. It's like Mr. T. It's like Mr. T. Oh, I thought it was like a cute bobo place. Like Mr. T's. I think it's called Mr. T's. Yes. Oh, I'm sorry.

It's just called Mr. T. I think that that's kind of an awkward name for a place. Maybe that's why that's why they're closing. I mean, shut up, fool. From the 18, you know, Mr. T. He was very tough. You're not always in a Mr. T mood for lunch. I heard that

it's like a hotspot in Paris, but it's just sort of like empty in L.A. And I heard that it's like Beyonce's favorite restaurants. They opened it up because I think Beyonce allegedly has an office across the street. That's what the rumor is. Word on the

street is that that's why Mr. T is there, but is Beyonce there? Because they did a lot of work to try to get Beyonce. As far as I can tell, I don't think Beyonce is going to be in there. Yeah, I got it. So I will go support Mr. T. But I like that Beyonce is supportive of Mr. T. Like probably because she likes Mr. T. It just reminds her of, you know, her childhood. Yeah. So here's somebody who, here's a Mrs. T that I don't support. Tamara Judge. Okay, Tamara Judge's daughter. Sophia Barney wants to be on next gen, NYC, no.

Okay. You know what? You're not allowed. You're not welcome here. You know, there's one small issue, which is that as far as we can see, you're in Orange County. And so, like, I know we made, like, an exception for GIA, but I don't know if we can, I don't know if we can make the umbrella of New York City go all the way to Orange County,

unless she has moved out in New York City, in which case we can reevaluate. I think it's probably going to be a no, though, anyway. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, she seems nice and everything, but I don't want guest spots from Tamara. You know, that's why I say no. And also, you're not the first person to write a song about a cannibal. Do you know how many cannibal songs we were sent after your episode and we were talking about songs about cannibals a lot. Okay?

Yeah. Write better dark songs. Write one about like foreskin checking, you know, like. Foreskin cheese. Before the cheese forms, Gloria. There's a lot of people talking about Laura Brannigan in the comments. I think because Gloria is here. so people are referencing the song, Gloria.

So maybe Sophia could do a cool remix of a Laura Brannigan song, and then we can talk. But I actually kind of want, for NextGen New York City, I kind of want the, I kind of want a cast cut off. I don't want to bring in any more kids from the suburban shows. I think I just want rich kids from New York City to be added onto the show. So purely just like I don't know if I want someone from Orange County infiltrating the show. But it should really be people from the Upper East Side would make me happy or the Upper West Side.

I'll accept them too. I think just leave it alone. That's what I say. Yeah. It's good. It's too late. I don't want you all flying your kids in for screen tests. It's already done.

It's already cast. It's already done. I think anybody else they cast, they should just cast people who are already in New York naturally. Also, I have to say, I love this, like, gold rush that's happening with Bravo Stars. trying to whore out their children to get on to like next gen New York City or like a rumored next gen Los Angeles. The way they are all adding to the rumor mill because you know they're the ones like telling the reporters, oh, I heard that like my child is going to be in talk.

You know Kyle Richards fully leaked? Actually Kyle, all the daughters on the Kyle said they've all leaked it probably. Oh, well, you know, Sophie, Sophia or like Portia or Farah, they're all in talks to me in New York City. You know like Kyle is going to be coming in wearing a backpack. me like i heard that like i wasn't talked to be in next-gen new york city like stop it everyone is rushing so hard to be on the show it is hilarious to me yeah guys you didn't everybody thought it was gonna be trash you all dissed it i'm sure everybody wanted to be on the show it's like that show's gonna fail and now it's successful and you all want a piece of the pie i'm sorry the pie is served it's already been served you don't get to be a piece of the pie you know you're not in the pie

you're not in the pie it like it like makes me feel like there's like the world is about to explode and there's a spaceship and there's limited like seating on the spaceship and they're all trying to get their kids on the spaceship to start a new civilization they take my child please put it on next-gen new york city yeah that was a good movie is that the end of the world they had to all get their kids on the 2012 yeah all the rich kids got on or all the rich people got on there or whatever and then all the poor people are like no but i think the rich people all died too usually so let's see We did some Carl stuff. I mean, I guess there's this Gretchen likes homophobic, transphobic posts.

I went off on that on The Real Housewives of Orange County. You know what? I don't need to fill myself with rage today. Gretchen, you still suck as much as you did this past weekend or this past last week in our recap. Okay? Shame on you. So I'll just stop there. If anyone wants to hear stuff about that, then go check out that recap because there's

better stuff to talk about in Orange County like Heather do, bro. Heather Dubrow, we're going to have to create a jingle, like a under the sea jingle for claw hands arriving. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Heather Dubrow news. Alfredo, Afrito, Alfredo. Everything's better. Where it is wetter, because you can tell Alfredo, wipe up the wetness. So stupid. Well, first in the news, Heather and Terry sold their mansion. that they've been trying to sell on the Shah, and they sold it for $16 million. They had originally put it up for sale at $25 million.

So that's crazy, that's a crazy low amount to be selling it. But, you know, we all know they're full of shit anyway, and they would never would have gotten that. So I don't know if they lost money, if they made money, but you know what? This is why I trust the best realtors on the market. Josh and Josh, Heather Dubrow, bringing people together. I am Heather Dubrow.

I am fun and relatable, and I am always very hilarious. I am a happy person. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And then we move on to Gina. So Gina Kirshenheider, the headline is. I'm never going to get used to that. Gina Kersen-Snyder. Gina Kierkin-Snyder, Kersen-Snyder.

I'm going to need, I just need her to have a stage name at this point. Why is Carl changing his name from William, but you can't change it from Kersen-Schneider? Kurtznyder. Yeah, exactly. Can we what about William? Change it to Carl. Genea Williams. Gina Carl. Gina Carl Williams. So Gina Kershthyter confirms Heather DeBrow leaked Katie's custody info ahead of Orange County reunion. This was on taste of reality. But I'm actually not reporting on that reporting. What I am reporting on is Heather Dubrow's response to that. Okay. Hold on a sec. So basically what happened was, As Gina goes on, watch what happens live. And the question was, Gina, isn't it a little bit hypocritical that you guys are mad at Katie and calling the bloggers when, you know, when Emily researched Katie's, you know, what do you call it? Custody battle and put that on the reunion. Yes, it is hypocritical, Andy.

There's the real answer. But Gina was like, no, because, you know what? Like a lot of people don't know this. But it wasn't even actually Emily who did the research. It was Debrough. So she accused Heather of being the one to do the research on Katie Janella's children or lack thereof at the most custody of. Alfredo, Alfredo, my turn. My turn.

Let's set the record straight. First of all, I do not research anyone. That is not my M.O. That stands for, well, I won't even say it what it does, Gina. I do not have time or interest to try to dig something up on other people. I am a working actress who has many auditions to go to, Gina. I don't have time to do this. For at the reunion last year, there was a lot of stories in the media circling about Katie,

and some of us were sending them to each other because it was overwhelming and crazy. And I did, in fact, send the article about Katie's custody to Emily. I did nothing more than that, and I would never have brought this up at the reunion. I actually went to Katie during the reunion. I actually went up to her during the commercial break, and I said to her, this must have been a very difficult time for you. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I never would have brought this up.

You know, I never would have brought this up. Kids and careers are off limits For all of you out there Making Wendy Malick jokes Off limits Not really sure why Gina chose To include me and her response On the show or make it sound salacious

But it was not And I will not adjudicate this again No more adjudications No more discussions It's over Well, look, first of all, what Heather is saying is correct. The stories about Katie and her custody and all that dirty mud that was slung was in the news before the reunion. I'd read all that stuff before.

So that stuff was out. The point is, you guys plan to bring it up and embarrass the woman. And Emily, for sure did. And for sure that for Emily to be like, whoa, whatever, it was in the blogs. You brought that shit on national TV for millions of people. and Gina, you sticking up for her makes you just as fucking gross. And we all know Heather had something to do with it too because she's passing the info along to her little minions

before the reunion because she knows that they're going to carry her water. So, you know, I'll please. Here comes one right now. Here's my feeling on this. I think, you know, Heather basically said, look, we were texting, we were being messy. I found I did like I did a Google search I found this link I sent it to the group I think like amongst a group of friends being messy about like someone like I'm not out of the context of like a reunion it's like okay they're sending links I what I don't like is that Gina is actually trying to like abdicate any responsibility like oh I didn't do anything was Heather who did it it's like so Gina to do that like Heather's like yeah I was messy I did it you know I didn't have like a investigator I wasn't searching and I wasn't, you know, I didn't call it Bo Dietl, you know, but Gina's like, and I just feel like this is what Gina always does. She cast stones and then she hides away

and then she turns out, she sells out her people, she sells out friends, she's being, she's having a key key with some friends and being shady or worse and she still sells, she's always selling people out every single season, every single interaction. Yeah, you know, people, there's always a discussion every season about Emily and Gina, right? Because they suck. And by the way, I saw something today that said, Emily has been on, Emily and Gina have been on OC longer than Durinda was on Real House House of New York. Let that sit in. Isn't that crazy? So, anyway, there's always a discussion every season because the audience is like, get rid of these two idiots. Why are these two boring idiots on TV? Why do we have to watch them every single season? The show's tanking and you just keep them.

It's like you change everybody around them. It makes no sense. There's this discussion every season that they're on, right? And sometimes people are like, why don't you like them? Just because they're not rich. Gina's not rich. No, it has nothing to do with her not being rich. Yes, it does.

For me, yes, it does. Well, for me, I don't care about that because I don't think any of them are rich. I think all of them are really Gina poor, but they pretend to be rich. I think at least 90% of them are that poor. I like the pretending. Well, that part doesn't bother me personally as much as this. She's a bad friend. Ultimately, this show is about.

friends. Gina is a friend to nobody and Emily is a friend to nobody. They're terrible people. They're terrible humans. They're terrible friends. That's it. I don't want to watch that. I mean, ultimately the show, you know, the show's like bickering and stuff like that, but I think what keeps it coming, what keeps me coming back is there funny women who generally are good friends to each other. The fights are usually like, you weren't a good friend to me because X, Y, Z, okay, well, how can I be a better friend? That's ultimately what the show is, right? At least to me. So you guys suck. You suck at your jobs. You're not funny. You're not fun and you're terrible friends. Go away. Here's the thing. You can be a terrible friend or you can be, no, let me say it this way.

You can either be a good friend but boring or entertaining but a terrible friend, but what you can't be is a terrible friend who's boring. And that's what they are. They are terrible friends for boring. And I feel like every season we at a certain point, we feel we feel bad because I think like we actually in a weird way I feel like we do sort of root for these people on a certain level because we actually are all fans of these shows we like them we want them to work we want these shows to succeed and sometimes I get to a place from like you know like I shit on Gina so much but she's actually like doing the work she's the story's moving forward because of her she's stirring the pot Emily's stirring the pot she's obnoxious but she's doing the thing and I kind of like you'll hear me do it on the

podcast every single season and I sort of of like, eat my words a little bit and say, you know, I get them also on shit. But you know, the truth is they're actually like, they're working for their money. I do the whole thing. But you know what? I'm sick of doing the whole thing. They're boring and they suck. Yeah, they suck.

No excuses. Get rid of them. I'm so tired of those two. Big shocking news. This has nothing to do with Gina. Thank God. But Teresa Judice admits marriage with Louis Ruelis hasn't been easy amid rumors about financial struggles.

I don't even need to read that. I don't even need to read that one. My response to that is, duh, no shit, Teresa. Okay, Teresa's the person you literally hold back at the crosswalk and say, don't. A bus is coming. And she walks out and gets by the bus. Am I supposed to stop and pick you up? No, stupid.

I tried to hold you back. I'm busy. I have to get to work. Yeah. Yeah. No shit. Your relationship with Louis, how, nothing that Louis ever does is easy. Why do you think he has five?

veins popping out his forehead at all times. Why do you think he looks like a tomato? This is why, because everything is stressful. Did you see the letter that, uh, I think Gia or some, Joe, Joe Judeias was, I don't have any of this in front of me. I just remember reading it this week. Joe Judeyce was writing a letter to Trump or tweeting Trump or something being like, hey, you know, it's time for another chance. You know what? Like, who cares? Like, let me back. Like, I'm a good Republican. You know, like I'm a good Trump or whatever. Let me back. And so the family has been like kind of fighting on social media because that's the only place that Donald really pays attention to you they know look at his attention there and so they're kind of begging him on socials

to let Joe back and then today Joe had um a post shirtless which nobody needs that and it said um like oh my god what another day is like waking up in beautiful Italy what make up your mind what do you want what do you need to be consistent in your social media begging sir also like why did it take you so long to realize this is what you're supposed to do when I I think I said it or I was predicting it a long time ago that Joe Judeyce is going to appeal for a pardon like in the first Trump term because Teresa was on the apprentice sure he had a relationship with Trump so I thought this was already going to happen I'm surprised took him this long but and I think he will get a pardoned by the way I think I think it's going to work out for him I'm just going to say because it seems like any reality star whose pledged allegiance can get pardoned at this point yeah well speaking of parasites Brandy Glanville has named her facial parasite. God damn it, I can't read the site. The site is cancer.

Every time I open it, what is this? Page six. Page six, do better. I need a full page AT&T ad that I can't get past to read your fucking article. You assholes. Fucking page six.

Page six, you're better than this, right? So she named her facial parasite Caroline after Caroline Manzo and really thought she did something hilarious there. But then she topped herself by putting Nair all over her face to catch the,

worm and to catch Caroline and burnt her face off. Wasn't Terry DeBro's supposed to fix this? Wasn't he like she'd have to come into my office and I'll figure out how to deal with it? Like what happened to that? What happened to the botched guys going to town here?

To this I say, can Terry Dubrow fix himself before he starts working on anybody else? It's like getting your car worked on by someone who drives a bike. Okay? It's ridiculous. It's like getting hair advice from me. Yeah, poor Randy Glanville. with, I saw the pictures and she has burned herself and her face is now orange.

I mean, this is really, uh, I don't really wish this on anyone, this parasite situation that she's going through, but it does feel like a, like a, we're watching like an allegory or we're watching like, there should be something that says like from the creators of the substance comes the parasite. Like this is, it feels like this is some sort of commentary on modern beauty, even though actually she got the parasite not from anything pertaining to, uh, beauty treatments. It just there's something about it. Well, no one knows where she got the parasite. And no one knows what the hell's going on with her. Vicky said that she got the same parasite in Thailand or whenever they shot that real war, they shot it in Thailand, right? She said she got

that, well, no, it was in Thailand. Where did they shoot that girl's trip that didn't air? Barako. Okay. So then Vicki was, well, Vicki wasn't in Thailand. I'm getting all my girls trips mixed up. Vicki said that she was there. She was somewhere and she got a parasite. to anyway I don't know yeah I don't know but I feel bad for the parasite being stuck in Brampi's face

I mean God couldn't you am up I know you would think at this point but yeah I guess that saga is still going on and I'm surprised no one can fix it yet but I guess I guess that's the way it goes

another thing that I think is amusing you know we were just talking about Teresa and the the cast has been announced for the new season of special forces a show that no one i know actually ever watches i think it seems to exist solely for uh casting notice like casting headlines to be like this is the cast and everyone's like oh my god what a funny cast and then like people i think the only thing that ever came out of that show over three seasons was like jojo siwa carrying

tom sandal but um the new cast from bravo the people who are going to be on this we've got about Brittany Cartwright, Theresa Judice, and even Marcel, at least. I don't know if there's any others on there. Jesse Smallet. Right. I meant just from Bravo. But Jesse Smollett, that is a very funny casting. That's a choice.

Oh, my goodness. That's a choice. Oh, Chanel. It's just like, please cast somebody on this show that will make me look credible. They're like, oh, we're having trouble. I'm not going to get Teresa this time. And they found him. They finally found it.

Chanel. Oh, never mind. Chanel Iman, not Chanel Ion. I was like, wait a second. Yeah, so it looks like that's our brava representation. I can't even imagine Teresa in boot camp. I'm sort of excited to see that. I thought we was making, we was learning to make boots. No, can we rename the show?

I get a little triggered when he say camps. Okay. Okay. My favorite piece of news, and we'll end with this before we start talking to you guys. is that Dorit Kimsley has a memoir on the way. The Real Housewives of Beverly Heel star chronicled my story behind my curated image seen on screen in Unburdened, moving on, letting gore and putting it all on the table. So she has written a book called Unburdened.

Hmm. Please. Please make it stop. Doreet's so full of shit, ain't nothing in here is going to be true. and I cannot wait to make you read it for some podcast so you can tell. Oh, my goodness. It's going to be the best book since Shinochet's. It'll be so self-serving and hilarious.

It'll be like, people I have hooked up with. Hmm. Boy, George. Prince Harry, Prince William, just to name a few. Leslie, in general. The language of Italia. Penn. I've hooked up with both Air and Mez.

I hope every chapter is like. French, where I've picked up my French accent, because, you know, she's got so many accents because she's like, out of the world. So it would be fun to hear her, like, describe how she picked up each individual one that brings together a perfect, perfect, queer accent. Her, it will be a great book because it's going to be, first of all, largely fictional, and it is going to be very globetrobed. You know, every, every chapter is going to be some fantastical story about how she was, you know, in, you know, like Hong Kong abducted by a triad and she was like ransomed. And all she was trying to do is get to the factory where she was

manufacturing Beverly Beach. You know, like everything is going to be some amazing story. I think it's going to, it could get optioned and become a blockbuster movie. I'm going to say it right now. Yeah, blockbuster. There are pictures of her, there are pictures of her walking with Hermes bags. I don't know if she supplied these pictures, but I saw them all over Twitter. her last night. And I didn't include them on our, on our document because I just didn't, I couldn't tell if these were pictures she had posted on her Instagram that people were programming or not. But, uh, it's her shopping with like two Hermes bags. And it's like, you know, look at Doread having a big shopping day. Look at all the stuff from Hermes that she's buying. But then people

zoomed in and you see that next to one of the Hermes bags is like some foot artifact. So it was like copied and paste. Like the Hermes bag was copied and paste. did so great so I didn't want I was like I don't want to put this on Dorete just yet because I don't know the context of a larger picture but whoever did this picture did some great sloppy was that on reddick because I saw reddit post about somebody saying these are these are fake you know or that she had been they were bags that she had already used and you could tell because they were crinkled up at the bottom and stuff and she's just like all her target stuff that she puts in air maze bags yeah people were talking about that too but then

someone zoomed in and you could see also that like it wasn't even like bags that they weren't even real bags i think oh i don't know i just well i was um you know i have a little dyslexia left over from being a kid and so sometimes letters will jumble themselves up to me and when i read the title of her book i thought it said unearned and i read the whole article thinking it said unearned and i was like finally a book title that makes sense on this channel you know but it didn't it said unburdened i think my dyslexia had it correct honestly yeah there's something that's very the you know what's funny is like calling your book unburdened what's so funny about it to me is there's nothing about the word unburdened that is fat shamy

but there's something like burden implies connotes heaviness so like there's something about calling your book unburdened which feels like a dig at pk being heavy i don't know like i i feel like there's like a subtle thing there right did you pick up on that vibe or is that just me thinning down lightning up the story of treats him silly diabetes zero how i got rid of diabetes in life all right everybody that brings us to the insulin insalaut and more insolada that brings us to the end of the news portion of crappy hour we're going to talk to you guys over on on YouTube TV for the next 10 minutes or so. So if you guys want to talk to us,

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