Watch What Crappens - #2971 RHOC S19E06 Part 2: New OLA, Old Tricks

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

This is part 2 of a 2-part recap! The Real Housewives of Orange County take on another day in New Orleans and then they take on Tamra, who runs away drunkenly crying and quits after one of her evil plans backfires. It’s glorious. You can watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watcher Crappins ad-free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. What's what happens when there's so much than crappins. Welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, we'll go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way, you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. I do remember as a kid asking my parents if we could ever go to Mipos. I was like, can we go to Mipos? And my mom was like, where Belke is from. My mom was like, who?

I was like, Belke-Ber-Ton. Basically, you know, I think my mom's to bro guys let's just let's just say i am not familiar balki burtakas sounds poor no we cannot is he on tv land um getting back to this katy said that you told her that i roof feed you okay and so shannon's like are you kidding me she said that you what now we had written to the list another person victimized by katy she is saying that you make Gretchen's roof, when we all know that Gretchen built her roof herself. No, Shannon, that's not what that means. No, no.

But here's what I was going to say. Tamara has heard from someone who has heard about this conversation that Katie is relaying. Is it possible in somewhere along the way that details were blurred or relayed improperly or heard improperly, like, is it possible that Katie said to Kiki something like, oh, yeah, Gretchen was telling me how Tamara tried to get her wasted, you know, so that way she'd, like, get blackout. Yeah, and Tamara twists. And then, like, and then someone says this sort of rephrases that and tells it to Tamara,

and then now it's at roofy level because that's what this all is about. And Tamara is always, always claims like, oh, well, you miss her, or it wasn't really like that. When Tamara is the queen of taking a shred of something and spitting it out of control and make it sound like it was something else entirely. This is happening every single time. It's a Janet move. It's a classic Bravo move. She's like pulling a, well, I mean, I guess Janet took it from Tamara first. So it's like a camera that Janet took that Tamara is taking back now.

But yeah, it's a typical thing. Like Gretchen probably talked about naked waisted and Tamara's like, oh, now she's accusing me of roofing hair. You know, it's like, no. but and we know that that's what it's about because Tamara tells us she's like 17 Tamara and this is Tamara's history you know she's like let me just rephrase this history let me reframe it because it was fucking horrible so let me just remind the audience what a not a big deal this was 17 years ago me and the girls would see how Gretchen out wasted but then when we were together she was so prim and proper started a party and me and ficky were joking and we said let's get questions Quentin wasted, naked wasted, so we could see the real Gretchen, that's what that man. Hey, this is a naked man, you know, not that she could get naked, but just, you know, because, you know, I'm naked wasted like truth, naked truth. So then, like, what a nice, wasn't it, was it not supposed to do that?

No, but that was it. Nothing more than that. No, that was not it. You got Gretchen over there, applied her with shot after shot. You didn't force her. I mean, she did drink on her own, but you purposely got her as shit-faced as possible, then sent your fucking disgusting piece of shit son. to the bathroom to try and like fuck her so that she would you would have evidence against her

with her old man that she was dating at the time which could have led to sexual assaults and thank god gretchen was strong enough at that point to back that fuck her off and it was all on microphone but you basically tried to get your son to kind of sexually assault gretchen in a bathroom you disgusting fucking pig so for you to bring that up now and act like everybody's being so dramatic all these years later when basically not basically anything you're guilty you are guilty ma'am but we're disgusting what's actually so funny to me

and by the way we we recently rewatched naked waisted because we recapped it like either actually had a few years ago on our last tour but two years ago we watched it and was still like it was as wild as we remembered it like it holds up but um what's so funny is even if you just take Tamara like just what

she says here just take out everything you just said like let's just see let's just take her defense right here like oh we would see like gretchen out and about and she'd always be drunk and then she'd actually like act prim and proper around us on camera and we're like we want to show the real gretchen are people not allowed to get wasted at night at a bar and then if they show up for work on camera for the nation to be like i'm going to try to like actually get my shit keep my shit together and actually try to like represent myself well it was like this defense that she's like that's all we were doing i was like you trying to expose like what you perceive as the real gretchen it's actually such a vicious nasty thing that you're doing and you're being like whatever we're

just trying to expose the truth like you're the liberator like you're the truth teller you're the one who has to champion authenticity this woman who's sitting here looking like she has a plastic pumpkin from spirit Halloween's or taped to her face is going to talk about authentic people. No, I'm not going to take that. Just get alone. We don't have to go back to naked wasted. So Gretchen's

like, hell no, I didn't say that. So she's like, I'm trying to comprehend this. I mean, supposedly Katie said this, but I have this weird feeling in the back of my mind. I'm trying to consider the source that's telling you that she said this. And I'm like, yes, Gretchen.

Duh, like you're immediately going to sit down and believe Tamara. I mean, I hope that not even you are that dumb, you know. So she's like, yeah, I don't believe that. And Shannon's like, okay, well, then ask her tonight. And Tamara's like, well, I got told, I got told about two people. Who are your people, Tamara? Once again, Tamara, Tamara that's like, you be going and talking to bloggers. A, not only are you one of the bloggers, part of the ecosystem of content creators, Bravo content creators that were all part of, but you talked to two other people. Like, it's like, how do you not see how, like, why is it like, like, Katie's not allowed to, like, be a little messy on the side with content creators, but then like, but you are. I just don't understand this. Like, just, I just say all of you just get messy and just have fun with it. Yeah. Stop with all this, like, sanctimonious, like, how could you? You're like, how could you, how could you betray the circle in this way? Kind of God. Yeah, that's ridiculous. So Shannon's like, well, I mean, just put the recording.

aside, forget the recording front. I am living over this. I have something new now. And how dare you? How long have you been holding on to that, Tamara? How long? She's like, four weeks. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? You had to hold on to that terrible information that Katie said that Gretchen said that. By the way, even holding on this information, which is that what is Tamara upset about? Is she upset about that Gretchen said, to Katie, is she upset that Katie said this to Kiki? I don't understand what it is. Yeah, I don't either, but

this never came out. So Kiki never said anything and Katie never said anything. The only reason this is coming out is because Tamara's bringing it out. So if Tamara's bringing it out, she's doing it on purpose. So why is she making Gretchen think that the rumor is that Gretchen

was, Roofie, how is that going to make Gretchen look bad? It still only makes Tamara look bad. Like, why is she bringing that shit out? Because you know there's people who are like, well, did she roofie her? You know, like I don't really get Tamara's motivation in this. And I think Tamara is kind of losing her touch because she used to be very good at manipulating everybody and getting stuff out there. But this isn't even a good one. Like, well, she's trying to get Gretchen to turn against Katie. She's trying to be like, hey, just so you know, this person

that you're standing up for that you said has never done anything to you, she's going around telling people of the media that that you are making claims about roofies. But like, it's Even that's like, like, it's just not the strongest, like, turn, like, loyalty shifting rumor. Like, you should be horrified to know that someone saying that you're accusing me of roofing. And I know you would never make an accusation like that. So she's saying you would make an accusation that's way more exaggerated than what happened. Like, it's not even that strong to turn someone against someone.

It's confusing. It is very confusing. I can't even say it straight without having to, like. double check that i'm saying it right yeah so you're like what's the motivation so katie so i'm gonna get you mad because katie told a blogger something that you said in private but then that's like well didn't her first question be like did i rufe you i don't know this whole thing is crazy and i don't know why tamera's even bringing this up publicly because it only makes tamra look bad because it brings back naked wasted which i know that she thinks she can reframe then that everybody's

stupid and it's too long ago that no one's going to remember that she tried to have her son attacked gretchen or whatever happened there which that's not really far from the truth it was a pretty gross episode so she's tamera's just making yourself look bad like how badly are you losing your touch here she's just um she's not being patient that's her problem because normally she's patient and she waits for for katy to slip up and say something about gretchen and that's why she's anytime i think she's been nice to katy she's just been trying to get stuff that she can use against her and she just hasn't been able to get anything where she can say to gretchen hey katie said this about you so the best that she has is katie said that

you said this thing about me which is a gross exaggeration and now you should be mad that she mischaracterized the way you you said that i treated you well it does make me not strong enough but it does make me wonder because gretchen did drink that night like we saw we just recapped it so she did have a lot of shots and stuff that night that they were feeding her but why would Tamara say, she said I roofied you because there's no way to go back and prove that Tamara didn't roofie Gretchen. And if she did, if she, if Gretchen did say that Tamara roofied me, I would believe it because she was completely out of it that night. So why would Tamara put that in people's heads is what I'm saying? There's no way to prove that Tamara didn't

roofie the girl. So it's just like a very sloppy thing for Tamara to put out there to the public. Because if Gretchen said Tamara roofied me that night, I don't. believer but she also would have said it and she mentions this she's like it's been 12 years i would have mentioned it by now she's like yeah not above mention i'm i'm betty i will do this i responded to your daughter's facebook thing like if you know if if i could have done this if i could have accused you of roofing me i would have or is she trying to trick gretchen into saying what you did that night wasn't that bad and it's no big deal i never would have said rufe because then that gets tamar kind of off the hook for that night i just i'm just trying to understand

the motivation for it's making me crazy No, I think, I don't think, I think the motivation, I think it's truly that some, I think, I believe that it was, the, the comments started off like Tamara got me blackout and Katie says blackout and black the word, I think black, something like blackout or I couldn't remember anything and Tamara did this to me. And then somehow it gets back to Tamara and either Tamara hears Ruffy or someone says Rufie, but like to me, it's like very obviously a game of telephone. And it's silly. Um, in back in the voodoo parlor, um, they all are sitting around a table where there's a, there's a, they're all doing arts and crafts. They're voodoo, the voodoo things. And Mary, the bloody Mary is like, okay, everyone, pick up your doll. And I'm going to do a group zap and then an individual waking. Is that a part of voodoo? Is that like, are you asking me? I don't fucking know. We're going to give us that everyone. We're going to get Tamara's evil infinity stone who bring these things to life. Hold us still. Hold us still. And Katie's like, it's a him actually. She goes, okay, it's a boy. I baptize you in the name of what's his name?

Matt. Okay, basic. I baptize this basic little baby. Okay, hold it tight. I'm going to slap it. Boo. I eat boo. I eat bo-bo.

I eat bo-bo. Okay? I eat bo-bo. That's kind of like amen, hallelujah, but it's in voodoo. Okay. By the way, there is something called Zapp's voodoo potato chips. So maybe that's where she got it. Okay, everyone, we're going to have potato chips after this.

I'm in. Okay. I'm back. I'm back. Ooh, I like to be spanked. This is fun. Just stay away from the face. I don't want to have another surgery.

And neither does my doll. So Mary's going around, baptizing all the dolls and everything. She's like, I baptize you in the name of Gina. I feel mad. I feel baptized. And Gina's like, I'm so intrigued by, like, most people think it's like evil spirits and dog. You know? And then a customary being like, just remember to feed it on a regular basis, add things to it.

Everything you do, add it with purpose. It's your ancient and voodoo vision board, which is really all she needed to start with is like tell these women that they'll be making a vision board. And they would have been all been on board from the beginning. Yeah. Oh, my God. This is crazy. My voodoo doll is already living in a tiny shoebox with 19 other voodoo dolls. The box has cursive and it says box.

I put a pin in my voodoo doll, and I felt bad about it. But then what was worse was that my voodal said, I literally feel bad. You put a pin in me. Oh, did someone just poke me? I feel bad. Okay, dreads it for different occasions, put it away, put it to sleep, you know, those kinds of things.

Okay, well, let's not talk about putting myself to sleep. So Tamara's like, well, I don't want to go back with you on everything, question. I just want to be friends with you It's me and you We're such good friends, right? I mean, I wasn't in a good place at the time I was so mad to Simon for crying out loud

I mean, look at you, you're so cute You're just so beautiful question I'd love to be friends with you Maybe one day I can give you back your voice Your voice Your boys However, the things that Tamara's always been good at Is like making you feel like there's hope for change

for, like, moving forward. And, like, yes, in my soul, like, my soul wants to believe is true, because I want that for her and I. I absolutely do, do, do. Tamara's like, I've been encouraged to her because I thought maybe you did tell her that. And now, now that I know that you didn't say that I refud you, I 100% believe you. God, what a bitch Katie is. We all hate her, right? I can tell by your reaction. You hate her. You love me. You're part of us now. I really can't. I can't be back in the shit again, you guys. I'm serious. I can't be back. And Gretchen, like, starts like, what are you doing back here, Gretchen? You can't be in this shit again. You came back to Real Housewell. You've been clawing your way back into Real Housewives of Orange County since you left. Don't start crying now. You're finally in it. Rejoice. Well, Katie is insinuating that Tamara committed an illegal act, and that is bad. And that takes Katie's issues with everyone.

every single one of us to another level and I want to get to the bottom of this and by this I mean this bag of bignets that I just picked up should we pause for a snack and I think everyone's gonna want to get to the bottom of this

so now everybody's getting ready for dinner and you know it's time to go on to the next fight scene so it's the preamble so Jan is talking to Ryan and she's like I'm gonna bring this picture up tonight and she's not gonna hide from it and then

In Heather's room, she's on the phone with Terry having a wacky scene about walking the Mardi Gras puppy parade. And he's like, oh, you showed your boob for beads? Just tell me. Tell me you did. She goes, oh, my God, I wouldn't show my boobs. Are they diamond beads? I don't think so. I'm not Wendy Malick taking off her top just so she could be in some TV show with Harrison Ford.

I'm not Daisy Fuentes. Okay. Wait for the dime. Nancy Travis slutting it up. So that way she can get an extra refill at Starbucks. Nancy Travis. So in Shannon's room, Shannon's a mess as usual. Her hair is all sticking up.

I think her goal tonight is to go from the mom and married with children. I'm not really sure what Shannon's doing, but she's trying. I'll tell you what she's doing. She is not rolling over and she is not going to come jumping back into her friendship with Tamara. Hell to the no. She will not jump back into that friendship. So Tamara comes over and they kicky. Yeah, Tamara's like,

Hey, girlfriend. Hey, Bethy. Pinkie promise on stuff. This is so fun. So fun. Being back to Shannon. My little best friend. God, miss you so much.

God, no one can drink with me like Shannon can. Yeah, girl. I think I just peed in my pants again. Because I'm so happy to see my best friend, who I am not going to be friends with anymore. Get on over here. for a hug. So Shannon's like, what's in your glass? And Timmy goes, oh, it's just water. And we see the water. It's literally like

the color of Pinocrigio. It's like, it's either Pinot Grigio or you are getting your water from a very dangerous source. Well, I'm a little bit nervous, okay? Shanley, but I did her. Can I bless you here? Can I miss you here? Can I miss you here, Shannon? I love you so much. Okay. You know what? You know what? You know, I'm just nervous for the day, because I don't know exactly how to bring it up. You know, it's just so deep, it's so dark, talking about roofies and stuff like that.

Do you have any movies? They're really good. And Shannon's like, well, you know what? I just want to remind the audience, I am not jumping back into a situation where we are brushing each other's hair and braiding it. But yes, Tamara, you can brush my hair since you did ask. You know what, hearing what you said today, I am so livid about it. and it took me about 45 minutes to actually parse it out and figure out what you were really saying

but then once I did figure out I decided I was pretty much still livid about it and Tamara was like, yeah because I feel like Shannon and I are back to a really good place it feels great to have her on my side it really does like I have your back girl yeah she said,

God's so good being best friends again okay take care and safe get ready I work and be downstairs waiting for you okay then don't forget your phone and don't forget your underwear saying to be doing a little whole drunk bitch I said that in a friendly way alcoholic best friend

I'm so glad we're back to be besties Oh God Tamara trying to be nice Tamara is killing me It's so fucking funny to see it It's time for a commercial It's time for a crappin's commercial It's your man Nick Cannon

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And Gina's like, oh my God, I can't go in the back today. I feel like a sausage. And Heather goes, you don't look like a sausage. You look like a box that arise from UPS, you know, very square, long, wide, unflattering, bad color for you. Does anybody have a blue light? Just kidding. What do you mean? Okay, okay.

You know what? You look great, you know, whatever. It's not about you today. So Shannon comes, and she's in her own car. She's like, well, did Tamara already leave? I thought we were best friends again. guess his sisterhood needs to take a little, I don't know, oh my gosh,

I still have a bignet on my knee. How did I get a bengue on my knee? It's just delicious. Oh, I just remembered. It's because I had the driver pull over at the bengue stand and I bought three of them and I left one on my knee by accident. I said, this will be a treat for later and guess what? It's been about 45 seconds. That counts as later.

Now, Jen goes over to Gretchen's room and she's like, oh my God, why are you not ready? I'm not ready. I needed to talk to you for First time wearing a bathrobe. It's a bathrobe of sadness. I just haven't seen you since the whole voodoo thing. And, you know, I...

And then back in the car, Gina's like, what did you do when you ran out of the voodoo? Well, at Hot to Heart, it was a Christian. My best friend. What a good person. Yeah. Oh, was it a good heart to heart? Like, yeah, we talked about Katie,

and we talked about how shitty she is. So, yeah, it was a great heart to heart. Oh, okay. Oh, God. You did not do that, Tamara. You did not. Not flop hand, flop hand, flop hand. So then back to Gretchen, she's like, you know, Tamara, all of a sudden,

she says to me, like, I heard, like, bloggers, like, that Katie told him that, like, I told Katie that Tamara roofing me the night of the naked wasted. And I was like, wait, wait, wait, what? And Jen is like, wow, I don't know if I followed that, but naked wasted. Is that a, is that a brand? I love their work. No, no, no. But I don't know what, even if I, how I feel about that.

Then we go back to the other car and Tamara saying, oh, Katie said that I roofied her. That she roofied her. What the literal fog. Like, was this about your, like, at this party you were saying something about some story that she planted or something, is it that? And Tamara's like, that was illegal.

I don't trust Katie, but I think Tamer isn't all opportunity coin and call. So Tamara's like, am I the ass how that's going to bring it up tonight? I'm like, yes, it will be you because you're the only one who seems to care about this right now. Yeah, you're the one who brought it up in the first place, you dummy.

So Gina's like, well, I'm going to get Katie signed in those stories because I don't know what to believe. So then Katie comes over to Gretchen's hotel room and she tells her and Katie's like, well, Gretchen says, yeah, you know, I got told Tamara by Tamara that you went to bloggers and you told them this crazy story

that Tamara roofied me and she's like no she goes you never went to a blogger she's like no and so Katie's like okay so now this is coming together Tamara said to me the quiet woman I didn't want to bring it up but you told something something about me tell somebody something about me

it's really bad Katie and I had it from two people who said something somebody about something somebody something somewhere sometime Katie's like, what did I say? I'm not going to say it because it was really bad. And I don't know, maybe, maybe if I just say it because it's so bad, maybe I'll woo for you afterwards, you don't remember.

Okay, so Heather is questioning if I'm planning stories with Kiki Monique, and we see flashback to two weeks before when Heather's like, I heard you were asking Kiki to put out stories to hurt us. And Katie's like, and I feel like this has all been a plan since they've been the very beginning to make me look like a bad person. Why is she doing this to me? So Katie's like, well, I'm not going to just lie. I didn't do that. And I know you have your doubts right now, but hand to God, I didn't do it.

I mean, God, it's never ending with these people. So Gretchen's like, well, when she said this, I was just like, wait, what? But then I got back and I started talking to Slade and then like, that doesn't even sound like something, Katie, do. And Katie's like, well, I didn't do it. So, Gretchen's like, well, all of a sudden, I just felt like I'm getting bamboozled over here by somebody telling me that this is what happened. So that I come, I'm, she's trying to get so I come at you and I freak out at you and I get pissed out off at you. And this is, by the way, all feeling like the traitors, which, by the way, announced that they will be doing us all civilian season coming up by the way. By the way, by the way, by

the way. Boring. So Gretchen, yeah, I love Gretchen slowly figuring things out. It's like, I feel like Maybe I got bamboozled. Yeah, Gretchen. It's like beautiful mind numbers flying around her head, but they're like one, plus one, plus one. It just takes her forever. You know, it's like, wait a minute. Maybe she said it. So I get mad at you, but then I would be mad at you.

Wait a minute. I've got it. Yes, yes, Gretchen. She connected the dots. God. All two of them. So Gretchen is like, well, she's basically like, no, when you have to deal with an individual that's willing to go and get the greatest lengths to destroy people, to harm people, to hurt

people. It's just hard to believe that person over the person that's never shown that to me in their life, huh? So Jen is like, okay, well, how much time do you need because we've got to go to dinner and, you know, if you're going to take 15 minutes, that's 15 more minutes I have to find this former fatty photo of mine. It's really bothering me. Have you guys seen this photo?

so heather's like joking about making shannon some dating pictures for riah and then um we see a fake bio for shannon shannon 61 interested in love likes my dog archie the quiet woman lemons nine in a bowl golden door dislikes liars bad teeth plates sound bowls and houses that go too far into the street men who don't like vegetables so so then Tamara's like guess what Shannon had told them and she was like oh she told you Heather

and Heather's like oh yeah we heard we heard all about it so Tamerman's like so who's going to sit next to me so there's like a question because like everyone who's still still due to arrive at dinner hates Tamrass they're laughing about this by the way Tamara is also blatantly

trying to get Gina to fall to her trap, which I thought she would, which is that Tamara's not going to bring this up at dinner. Tamara's going to sit there and all angry. And the Gina's be like, you know what? I feel bad because Katie, look at Tamara over there because, like, I found out that you've been telling people that Tamara's roofring everyone in Orange County. And that's this not noise.

Yeah, she's been doing it this whole time. Like, guys, am I going to have to be the one to bring this up? I'm going to tell half this cast his stuff. So at least there's a chance that one of you is going to bring it up. One of you's going to bring it up, right, guys? And no one does. Like, she's starting to fail. By the way, she shows up to.

this dinner with possum eyes on a thousand. They're completely black, like completely blacked out. And she's doing that little squint. I mean, she's just looking, she is just like a hundred, she's been marinating in Tamara juice on her way

here. She's like shown up ready to rumble. So Shannon's like, well, can we talk about how Katie is late? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. So then in the car, they're talking about Tamara being like so manipulative and you know she's so good at making you question yourself so then at the table

um tammer's like wait a minute what if my plan doesn't work okay what else my what's plan B okay guys I didn't consider this but what if Gretchen did tell Katie that I roofied her so let's all be prepared to get mad at Gretchen if Gretchen doesn't follow through by being mad at Katie by being yeah Gretchen for spreading a rumor that I roofied Gretchen okay everybody got it like, she didn't. So Katie's, so then they walk in. And Katie's like, you know when you walk into a room and they're all talking about you, it's awkward.

I'm like, yeah, welcome to this show. So Emily's like, why were you guys so late? It was me. Because Gretchen is like, I was thinking forever. So it's awkward. And they're making sort of small talk and everything. And like Tamara's saying, she has hiccups. So Heather's like, can you scare her please?

Here, here's a photo of Wendy. You just show it in her face. Um, so Tamara's just like, uh-huh, little bubbles are coming out of her mouth. And so she's like, Christian, you want to talk about the bestsy? Hey, Christian, you want to talk to that's just to meet me with that girlfriend. So they go talk privately. And she'd say, so am I going to bring it up tonight? Or do you going to bring it up?

Do you do not want me to bring it up? Because it's just some nasty. Use some mean. I have a microphone if you want to be that. You want to use this microphone? I know. I wrote out some cute cards for you. If you needed just some prompts to help you along.

So, Rechon's like, uh, and Tamara's like, she's like, wait, did you talk to her about it? What did you say? She goes,

well, she said that she didn't do it. She goes, and do you believe that she said that? She's like, yeah. And so then Katie comes out to the, gets up,

because she knows they're talking about it. So Shannon's like, wait, wait, where is Katie? Is she going to the bathroom? Is she going to the Radio Shack to get another tape recorder to record me? What is happening with Katie right now?

Is she going to the bathroom or the lie room? Okay. Now, did you guys hear about what's happening today? A lot of shit. Okay? Do you know? And Jen's like, I think I understand it. There was a show on while I Love Lucy was airing something about being wasted while you're naked.

I'm really not sure. I just, I'm too young to remember that far back. Jen, how do you? feel about this? She's, well, you know, I've had a lot of conversations with Gretchen. And if Gretchen felt like she was roofied, I think she would have heard of that, you know, I think she would have said that. So, uh, Gina's like, honestly, Jen, she would have loved to have brought this. Like, she would have loved who had talked about being roofied. So now out in the hall, now it's Katie Tamara and, and Gretchen. And, you know, Katie is denying that she talked to Kiki about

this. And Tamara's like, so, so why did I get like two people reach out to me and tell me the same story, why, why, why? And Tamara's like, like, I mean, she's like, you know, somebody, like, what Katie says, who was it? It's just, someone who doesn't want to be named, I cannot reveal my sources. You're a particular person. I won't reveal my sources. Deep and throat.

Well, I'm deep and throat. And Katie's like, well, it's not true. And Gretchen says, I mean, I was really looking forward to moving, moving forward with you. And, like, I still want to have a talk with you so we can either harp on this. She goes, wait. Are you saying I pulled this out of my ass, Grischen? She's like, no. I didn't say that's what happened.

I just asked, like, listen, she said she didn't do it. She said, okay, whatever. And she just, like, storms off all pissed because it didn't work. So she storms back to the table. And she's like, Plan B, Gretchen believes Katie. Get her. Get her, everybody. What?

What? What? And we were best friends. Me and Gretchen have been best friends for years. I just got to be betrayed by not getting accused of roofing her. It's a betrayal. How dare you not accuse me of Rufing you? You know, when I told Gretchen she was sad with me,

and was this just an act with Gretchen? Is she a liar all along? Is she a fake person? Is she the most fake person here on this cast? Because what she said is illegal and a lie. So now you have Tamara and Shannon both saying, They did something illegal. I mean, they're both like on this crusade.

So now Katie and Gretchen return. And Shannon's like, well, congratulations. Congratulations, Katie. You ate the last bignet. Congratulations. I guess none of us gets there now. Your excuses worked for one person. Oh, Shannon, be quiet.

Like, have your own things to be mad. She is so out of, she is so out of order. And I love so, and I love Katie just being like, oh my God, Shannon, whatever. Whatever. Yeah, whatever. You're not involved. Well, I, I'm angry. My anger is involved.

I was voodied by, I was voodied by, I was, I'm a victim of voodoo right now. And you did the doll. He's like, yeah, we got it, Shannon. Everybody knows. You're angry. I'm loving watching Katie deal with Shannon because Shannon's just doing her indignant lady thing. And Katie's like, she left her sandwich.

Shut up. Every single person. And this is when Shannon does that thing where she points, like, she points at everyone, like she's trying to do like a magic spell on them really quickly. Like every single person at this table. Why is my finger wand not working? I'm working. I'm wagging my finger wand.

Every single person at this table, except Jen. you have hurt. And Jennings already hurt because there's a former fatty photo of her, so let's give her some space. Okay. Every single person has been hurt by you, Katie. You. Okay, well, I've owned it when I've done something wrong, Shannon. Oh, oh, you've owned it. Well, who wants to be around someone that hurts an entire table of people? Including the table itself. Look, look at this table. It's crying. I am tears on my kneecaps. And Katie just rolls her eyes. She goes, oh, my God, I didn't say it. You stop lying.

I'm loving watching all of this blow up in Shannon's face kind of with the audience because Shannon is just like on a mission from the Lord in this in these episodes. She is so convinced that she's correct. I almost think this thing with Katie is so over her reaction to Katie is so over the top. I almost feel like Shannon wants to be friends with Tamara again, but she doesn't want to deal with all the shit that people will give her. So it's almost like she just needs. something. So like this is the opportunity to get mad at Katie. And so that way it's like,

it's like, okay, like you can see like Tamara had my back all along. We are good friends. It's like, it's like she's so over the top mad about this recording that happened when you're on a show that's recorded that like I feel like there's like an ulterior psychological motive going on. Yeah, like she needs to make somebody worse than Tamara, you know, so that Tamara's not the bad one. So she can be friends with her. I mean, yeah, I think you're right. And also the sticking up for her. Yeah. Like, like, she's been sticking up for me. That makes sense.

So Heather's like, I love Shannon, but she can, oh, I'm sorry, what are we going to say? No, I was going to say, like, because Shannon is screaming in the restaurant now. The waiter comes by and she goes, I can't stand you. I can't stand you. I was like, what, you? Like, she's, she's making a scene. Yeah, she's being, she's being pretty terrible this season, which is hilarious to me. Don't necessarily change, but wow.

That's what she does. she alternates back and forth. So she's like, Katie, I'm going to say this is someone who just wet their pants 10 minutes ago. You are known as the leak in this group. And that is something in this group. That is something. From the bottom

to the top. From the windows to the walls to the sweat drops down my balls. So then Heather is like, it's too much. It's too much. And so Gretchen's like, well, where's the proof that any of this happened? I mean, hi, and I haven't seen anything. So I'm just supposed to be like, oh, fuck you and come after

her, that's what you want me to do? And Hedda's like, no, no, no, no. I get that. I get that. And Gina's like, I think she's struggling because it's a friend. I was like, wow, Gina, really picking up on the nuances of the situation. Yeah. She doesn't want to say, oh, fuck you, Katie, because she doesn't know, you know, you know, I feel bad. That's difficult. That's difficult. Okay, I agree. Point for Gina. Point for Gina, everyone. And also, guys, beyond all of this speculation, I didn't do it. So there's that as well. well, Gretchen's like, yeah, and this person has done so much shit to me, Tamara.

I mean, do you really think I'm just going to believe this shit? No. Shams, like, there are multiple reputable, reputable reporters. Barbara Walters called from heaven. She was maybe one of the people. There are people who report things

with reputations. You don't know who they are. Well, she knows. It was Barbara Walter's called. And then she said, hold on. I've got Koki on the other line, wanted to make it a three-way, so it was Koki and Barbara from ABC Heaven, and they were both reporting on this, and they see everything reputable, reputable. Jack shows up. He's like, where, where? Not that Koki, Jax. Go away. This is not your show. Also, I can guarantee, oh,

sorry. No, no, you're going to. Sorry, keep stepping on you. I don't mean to. I can guarantee you that there are not multiple reputable reporters reporting on Kiki Monique. hearing gossip at lunch. No. There's literally, Tom Brokaw is not at lunch like, whoa, did you hear about Kiki Monique and what she heard from a lady from Orange County? Yeah, exactly. Here comes one right now. So Gina's like, oh, I don't know why Tamer would think that Gretchen would ever believe anything that came out of a mouth.

Like, has this ever historically gone well for these women? in the past 12 years, no. So Jen is like, did you ever ask Katie about it? No. No, because she didn't want it to be a thing when it wasn't the vacation yet. I wanted to ask Gretchen, and today she was disgusted.

She was crying back when we were best friends from him, Gretchen. And she's like, I wasn't crying. I was just like, what? Jenner was like, yeah, you were crying. You were so upset about it. You were so upset about it. I was there for you.

I remember. I thought patting you on the bag. I've sewn up you will. She's like, I mean, okay, I was emotional. And Joan's like, okay, so let's just all have it out then. Um, where's the picture, Tamara? That's what? Leave my picture.

The former fatty photo, the thing that everyone's been talking about, the thing that's on top of everyone's minds, everyone wants to know, where is this photo? And Tam was like, that's not what tonight's scene is about so, bitch. No, but it's, I need to see this photo. We all want to have Katie come to the table, okay? We want Katie come to the table. And if everyone's been hurt, well, everyone's been hurt here by you as well. Which I like that she mentioned that.

Like, okay, like, you guys are saying that Katie's hurt everyone. But like, Tamara, like, let's be real here. Tamara's one who's really hurt people. So, like, what was the intent of the picture with me? I've been asking, I've been hearing about it. Where's the former fatty photo of me? And I love the Tamara goes. I don't care about that.

Well. It's not about what you care about. It's not for you to care about. Yeah. You're the one. She goes, I was just retaliating because you keep telling me. She goes, no, you were retaliating because I'm obsessed with you. And so then you start showing pictures of me.

And she said, but I was the hack. You researched me on 2013 as a fan. And you're like, hey. She goes, what are you talking about? By the way, are we on something? I mean, are you on Xana's because Tamara does have black eyes. And she is so furious that her plans aren't working. She's doing a bad job and it's just not like Tamara and I think it just as cast members on the TV show

They're like you're not even doing you're always a horrible person, but you're not even being a horrible person well today Like are you okay? Like you're fucked up. What's wrong? She's like like what are you talking about? Are we on something? I mean Xanax or something you're not even making sense just stay on track Okay, we're supposed to be having a fight and Emily's like you know what the issue is here is the whole thing you're what you're saying is that she's obsessed with you like like to me that's a deflection of what's real the real root issues between the two of you and jens like yeah what is the issue i don't know what is it i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know first no i don't know first no i don't know until affinity what not you that's not allowed that's not fair until affinity i don't know and now emily and gina just start laughing because this is making no sense

and tamara's like clearly fucked up right so tamar's like well i think it's been like a too for that every the past two years, you know? And Gretchen goes, okay, but where did it start? That's none of your fucking bitch this, Grisci, you're not my best friend no more. She goes, okay then. Yeah, you don't know nothing, Gregson, stupid question.

I can't believe we're your best friends for 10 years. Stupid. See, it just takes a little time and it always creeps right back out. Unlike my former fatty photo, where is it? But there's a nicer way to say that.

Samara, like, yeah, but question doesn't know nothing. So that's what I'm trying to say, Heather. How my, how my, how my, Not so that be when I'm saying, Gretchen doesn't know nothing. Okay. Gretchen doesn't know anything. Okay.

They're stupid. She knows a lot. She knows a lot. She knows a lot. Thank you so much for pointing out that she knows a lot. And Tamara's like, what? What you told her? And he's like, what?

Tamara's like, what do you mean? What? Well, I'm asking Jan. Fuck off. I'm not. I'm not going to fuck off. You know what? All right.

You know what? Then Gina out of nowhere goes, All right, you know what? Tamara, you're being rude and you're slashed. I'm slashed? Yeah. That is what's happening here. Yeah. And I'm not being, and Tim was like, you're being rude. I'm not being fucking rude. You're being fucking rude to everybody at this table, Tamara. This is actually my table, and I don't appreciate that. I was like, do you know how I want Travis and I work for this table? Who? Who? Who?

Travis. I don't understand. Is that the waiter? and Gina's like it's too much I mean it's too much like you got one eye open you got no idea what's going on when she did that you got one eye open because it cuts to Tamara Tamara's like you're bitch

you miss miss you got no idea what's going on like don't come at the one sober person at the table because I'm just too sober for the shit in general and let's say it's not fun to be in the middle of all your bullshit Tamara

and Heather goes for any of us which was the real stab because Heather is the one that's completely on Tamara's side all the time. So that was a real step. And also for people to know about the fatty photo, it must have been Heather telling everybody. So Tamara is really getting her ass handed to her at this table.

Yeah. So Emily's like, Jen, what would you need? You know, I say table it. I don't think tonight is the night. I do agree with a little bit of what Gina's saying. I don't know what's going on. You don't seem like you're in your right mind to be totally transparent. You don't.

And it's just amazing. are all like, you're wasted, and Tamara has just had a little scene where she declared, she does not drink anymore, and you won't see a drop of alcohol in her when she has conversations anymore. And so now she's been busted. Like, I mean, this is, I mean, to to really flop this hard on five hours. Yeah. It's embarrassing. I mean, Tamer's black eyes. She's just sitting there like, oh, my God, what do I do now? Plan A, Phil, plan B, Phil, even Heather turned on me. What do I do from here? You won't never. it to me again. You know, she's getting that look in her eye. So I'm like, well, this is

dumb. Like, I don't even know where to go for here. And Heather's like, Gretchen, you want to try my gumbo? Yeah, yeah. It's very good. It's gumbo that sings Beyonce lyrics. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, those lyrics are so simple. Even Wendy Malik could sing along. So Gretchen is like, she's like, no, thank you. She's like, does anyone want to try my ya, yeah? Look at me, television's Heather Debrough, experiencing things like ya-ya and gumbo and jambalaya-ya-ya. Oh, wait, I think I just realized

Jambalaya is yaya. I'm learning. Now, I don't want nothing from you. Heather Debrough, she goes, why would you say that? She goes, I don't want it. I don't want it. It's that simple.

Keep your yaya away from you, hoo-ha. I don't want nothing from you. Shannon's like, well, I don't know how many drinks she had, but she did walk into my room with something she claimed was water. oh, didn't look like water.

I just heard five hours ago that I'm never going to see her wasted again. So what is she doing this alcoholic? I love that Shannon. It's like, the tables are turning for Shannon. It's like, oh my God, it's already time that I get to turn the alcoholic storyline back on Tamara.

Yeah. I know. So then Tamara gets up from the table because she's been doing for the past like two minutes, she's been sitting there like quiet, like, I'm not going to talk. I'm upset. I'm going to cry on the inside.

So now she gets up and she leaves. And it's basically like Bali 2.0. So she goes out and Jen's like, this is bad. This is not a good night. Just kidding. I'm laughing. It's great. So Gina's like, it's because she's sloshed.

I swear. If Gina says sloshed one more time, I'm revoking all the good things I said about her at the beginning of the episode. I mean, Tamara walks off and they immediately all start like, oh, my God, Tamara's fucked up. Like, oh, my God, what's going on? So good. So then Tamara goes to the elevator and a producer comes up. And he's like, are you all right, Tamara? And she goes, I just want to go home.

I just want to go home. I'm waiting for the other baby because those are stairs and Teddy fell down. Those one time I got to be me trying to ask. And back at the table, Gretchen's like, yeah, when she screamed at me, like, man, I was like, I'm not touching this. And she says, when she goes to psycho, you can see something in her eyes. And that is the truth. I mean, those eyes change. Heather's are always black, but Tamara's change.

So Heather goes out to the hallway and she's like, Tamara, What is going on with you, honey? Why are you talking to all these poor people out here? I just want to go home. You can go home, but don't talk to the poor. It's just not, it's beneath you. You know, you're not helping yourself. How am I not being myself right now?

I don't know, but I'm uncomfortable in this hallway with people in T-shirts and shorts and headpieces. Who are these people? Can we get away from them? No, no. Because what? So I'm not fucking yelling, and that's why I'm like, you guys are uncomfortable with it?

Just like, I don't want you to yell. I just want you to. come back to the table so we can gang up on Katie some more. What is it? What do you want, send me? What do you want, send me? What are you mad, sad me? So she starts having a fit, and she's like,

back at the table, Jen's like, oh my God, Shannon, if it were you and you showed up like that, you would be like a drunk. You'd be drunk. Well, I gave Regina's water. I didn't really know what else to do. I just wanted to keep her as drunk as possible, so that way that he could get her.

get off me for once. So I just wanted to give her Gina's water so that way she could have something to drink so I could finish her martini. I mean, weights not one, not. So then back in the hallway, Tamara was like, I just sat down with question where I told her everything and all of the sudden, I'm the asshole, I'm the asshole. So you're getting mad to someone's not the case for me of Ruby and I'm. And Heather's like, well, you know, oh, no, I'm the asshole.

Just let me be, I'm not doing this, I'm not doing this, Anna. No. No one saying, you're the assail. No one's saying. Honey, honey, no one's saying you're an asshole. I'm saying with Gretchen, she probably needs to take a step back, okay? Look, sit under, stand right here. I'll let my hand flop onto your head as I say, take a step back.

Look, I'm doing a small slam dunk with my hand on your head. Take a step back. Do you feel relaxed now? Take a step back. So Tamara's yelling in the hallway, and they can all hear her. She's like, I don't give a fuck. girl's contacted my daughter. Which is a lie.

She's called my husband gay. Which is a possibility. Hey, she's gone after me a million times. And I've been so fucking nice to her. I'm so nice to grass and everybody knows it. Everybody knows it. This shouldn't even call the episode, Naked Wasted. This should have caught the episode.

Someone at least brought you a sweater after wasted. And that person was me, bet. I can't believe it, but somebody knew me. You know, when someone's husband's dying of cancer, of cancer and you go on TV and you, you accuse them of having an affair and say that this person called you in the middle of the night and then you torment them this with this rumor for years and years and years, this is how you repay me? I've just been nice to you. That's it. Nice. It's so how I've been a good person. So she runs out because the elevator's

not coming. And you know some producer is downstairs holding that elevator. They're like, do not let Tamara get in the elevator. So she just goes down the stairs instead and keeps looking behind her like fucking cameras you're following me right okay come on come on guys so inside they're like yeah that girl's crazy and drunk something's going on with her and then downstairs tamera's alone in the restaurant she's she just turns to the camera and she's like do we have a car for me am i gonna have to come Uber they're like we're not paying for you to leave the shoot that you're supposed to be part of you know so Gina's like Tamara just texting me fuck off what what and then And she was like, and then, and so then I wrote back to go to bed.

And then Tamara says, you're out of line. And Katie is like, well, let me see if I get one. Oh, I didn't even get one. That's too bad. I was going to tell Kiki about it. Nothing to forward to Kiki. Could you send me a screenshot of the one that you got? That would be great.

Well, she said, I'm out. Gina crossed the line. No one is authentic. What did you do, Gina? She said, well, I told her I was sloshed and not to tell me, fuck you. Yeah, I've had it with Tamara. I mean, you claim on your working yourself, but like, you just said, fuck you. The wrong person.

All right, everyone, as Gretchen would say, shut the fuck up. Gretchen, what a line. God, I hope that makes it to the ads. What a wonderful line. Did Gretchen say? Is that a Gretchen phrase? Shut the fuck up. I don't know, but I love that she's like iconic now in Heather's mine.

They have all turned on Tamara and they're back at the table like, yes, we nailed camera, Tamara, finally. Gretchen up and Gina. And Tamara's calling Eddie, be like, get if I'm a flight out of here, I'm over, I'm done. So then, uh, she's like, oh my God, she put on her Instagram. It was a long run when life gives you real problems.

This real reality shit doesn't make sense. Peace out. I'm out. Jen's like, she really posted that? Wow. She quit. She quit. A former fatty photo was bad enough.

She just quit the shit. Former fatty photo. She used really fat font. That font, you. Used to be bigger, actually. So, yeah, they're all like, she quit? Oh, my God, whoa, well. And Gretchen's like, yeah, I literally said in my head,

she will probably try to quit the show now. Because I think, was Gretchen there in Bali when she did this also? I don't remember. No, maybe not. I don't think Gretchen was on that season. But, yeah, this is totally a camera move, where she gets caught and she runs like hell, you know? And so, Gina's like, I don't know what it is.

Like, I don't know if it was a cry for attention. I just don't know. And so Jen's like, well, once again, You know, Katie's in a line of fire, and it's like, here's the grenade, hold it. I'm just going to pull the pin and walk away. Explosion. Huge explosion. I'm in a wedding bikini.

Ryan has a boner. He's taking out his AirPods. I don't even know what's happening anymore. Tamara's on the phone with Eddie in the car. She's like, I'm bad. I don't need this. Good pie. I'll see when I get home.

Actually, I'm a big bear. God damn it. God damn it. And that is the end. To be continued, what will happen? I think we all know that Tamara comes back to shoot. But it was a real surprising turn of events. I mean, we knew that Tamara quit during the New Orleans trip.

We know that everyone, like, she had some sort of meltdown. But what I was not expecting was that the entire cast was going to turn against her and, like, call her out. Like, that was actually pretty shocking and gratifying to watch. Yeah, it was lovely. It was lovely. It was a lovely time enjoyed by all. Nice job. I mean, we got a full two-hour recap out of this.

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