Watch What Crappens - #2982 Crappy Hour 8-25-25: Sober at Sonjarita's

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

It's been a crazy couple of weeks in the Bravosphere. Jax has been accused of love bombing, Stefanie is making sure everyone keeps their gossip about her to a minimum, and Sonjarita's home has been turned into a sober living facility. The world is ending, basically. We go live every other Monday at 530 PM Pacific! Join us live every other Monday at 5:30 PT on YouTube and Patreon! YouTube.com/watchwhatcrappens Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watcher Crapins ad free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Hello, hello, and welcome to Crappy Hour, August 25th, 1975, the day of my birth, I've just come out of my mother. And I've seen my first real housewife, smoking a cigarette, drinking a bottle of, or drinking out of a box of Franzi in a hospital, and saying you, I was going to call you Rhonda, but you've got a wiener, so I'm Madden and Elle to the end. Welcome to the world. Hello, everybody. I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben. Hello, Ben. Hi, happy birthday. Happy Big 50. Oh, this is so exciting. I'm celebrating on my side of the screen. Birthday balloons on your screen. Thank you, Ben. I'm celebrating. We love you. Thank you, everybody, so much for being here and in the comments and reading your comments. Thank you guys. Thanks so much for being here. Wow, this is 50. What a crazy time. It was just like yesterday.

Except I'm older. God bless it. But I'm just going to keep getting little pieces of skin chopped off for the rest of of my life once a month so we'll see we'll see where that goes oh and last night i watched the substance to celebrate oh you did how was that yeah well it really gives a new meaning to like there's a thin person in me just dying to get out you know my god that movie was disgusting oh my god but hilarious too right yeah it was really good it was pretty good um but i was very I was like, if you look like Demi Moore and you're really that upset, we're all screwed. Like, Demi Moore even looked amazing in that movie.

It's not like they made her ugly or fat or anything. She's just like, I'm Demi Moore, but I want to be younger and prettier. And I was like, girl, then the rest of us are just like, let's just, the rest of us, let's just all commit mass suicide. Because what the hell? Yes, but like, when late in the movie, Demi Moore looks a certain sort of. of way and she puts on her little earrings that was to me it's my favorite thing I saw in the past year her putting those little like it was like little eyelashes or something on when she's in a state of disarray yes and one of her transformative moments honestly like when I saw that I was like Ronnie has to see this movie it was really just about that scene I just wanted you to see that scene of her getting ready and glaming up that was like I just die I was like this movie is so crazy Easy. I can't believe they're doing this. I think it's the perfect thing to watch on your last night of your 40s. Yeah, because you know me. I want to get everything done. And I mean, ever since Miami, this season started airing, I've wanted to get my knees done. I've never even thought about knees being wrinkly. I feel like Bravo just gives me these things that I want to go under the knife for, you know?

Yeah. It is funny that Bravo is creating some sort of knee anxiety. Anxiety. Well, I mean, now that you're 50, you now have to list 50 things. that you've learned for the rest of the episode and we're all waiting oh god let's just start with 50 pieces of gossip from bravo we can do that too we know i learned nothing we know i learn nothing that's that's the joy of being 50 you can finally admit i learn nothing and i'm never going to learn nothing and i'm fine with it i learn nothing nothing if i don't have you one thing people are asking us quite a bit about is real housewives of london we are not watching it and the reason we're not watching it even though we are both completely in love with housewives obviously is that what if they put it on bravo like what if they license it and start airing it

on bravo or something then we'll have to do it all over again although i suppose we could recap it for patreon and then put it on the main feed if they ever release it i mean i don't know what do you want to do i don't know um i don't know i've got to think about it i don't think about it I don't think the demand has actually been super high, and I feel my concern is that a lot of people will not be able to access it. So I say, let's just let that one ride a little bit, and if we need to call upon it, we will call upon it. But I think that we, you know, I'm sure that the Bravo schedule is about to ramp up. This happens. A lot of people have been talking about that we're in sort of like a dead zone with Bravo right now.

But this actually happens every year. It just feels more dead than usual because they put Miami on the same. night as Orange County. So we have like a full like one or two nights where there's just nothing on. But we'll all get through it together. That is weird though. It is super, super weird. One thing we will be recapping is the Love Island reunion on Patreon. That comes out tonight. So I'm psyched about that. But yeah, I think another reason it's weird is because a couple of the things on we're just not watching. Like we're not watching the King's Court because honestly I just, I think that was my fault. But I was like, I've had enough dating shows. You know, I don't come to Bravo for

dating shows and love island wasn't on bravo it is now though if you guys want to watch it they're showing it all now but um love island i uh that was a lot and then love hotel and then this other one came out and i'm sick of fucking fake fake dates okay i have enough enough fake dates on my own yeah i've only watched i think one or two episodes of king's court and like obviously as karen huger says like the eye candy is where i guess that would be arm candy but like obviously these are like three of the hottest guys we've ever seen on dating shows. I mean, it's Tyson Beckford, the most famous male supermodel of all time. I mean, that's really, if you wound up on this show as a contestant, you really hit the jackpot, I think.

But that being said, it's like very easy. No, because he's like ducy. And I'm sorry. I watched the first episode of it to decide that I hated it. And he started crying about how traumatic, his, like, love is so traumatic. And it's not any less traumatic for him just because he's a model. I was like, fuck off. Like, I'm not going to sit here and listen to the prettiest man of the world cry. Because you think it doesn't make it easier, but it does, sir. It fucking does. And I don't want to, I'm not going to sit here and listen to you cry about it, sir.

The hard part I had was Holly Robinson and her husband, Rodney, like hosting. I don't know if they also do Queens Court, but they're like this weird, like, piano lounge act on the side of the show. They're like sitting at the end of the table like, so looks like you guys had some dates. want to tell us about it i feel like they're gonna break into song any moment i'm like what they're they're acting so strange on this dating show um but yeah now it just wasn't it just wasn't a very good show i was sort of in it in the beginning but then when they went on their separate dates they went skydiving and the painting i was like this just kind of feels like scripted crap and i know that i know everything's scripted but if i if i can really see it and sense it you know it's just

not gonna really be for me fortunately yeah so i think that's why we feel more barren in the landscape because we've got that that we're not really watching, and then McBee, which we're watching, but it doesn't feel like a very Bravo-y type show, you know, so. But we do have two housewives on at one time, and we've got a pretty solid below-deck season. I know some people hate it because it's like new and dady and all of that, but I mean, I like it. I even like the Instagram wall since we've argued about, so I'm fine. I think Bravo's giving us the best and the worst these days. I think that Orange County and Miami are like excellent, and they're doing great. great, great, great work.

And I think that below deck is, I'm not really enjoying this season. I'm not going to lie. And, you know, my feelings on McBee are, you know, that I'm happy for you, Ronnie. So the point is, it's, you know, it is a little bit like up and down. But I'm excited. Salt Lake City is around the corner. And I'm sure there's going to be like a million other shows that they're about to drop. I'm sure Mediterranean's got to be coming out soon.

They just, they, they, they're, there can't be much time left on below deck. And, uh, yeah, there's got to be shows. It's got to be shows. It's got to be shows. Three boots coming up, I think, in the fall. Yeah, we've got plenty coming. So it's all good. And, you know, we should always be grateful for what we have.

We've got a good season of Miami, a really good season of OC. So you know what? Thank you, Lord. That's what I'm saying today. Okay. Thank you, Jesus, for everything that you've given us. Okay. So now let's move into some gossy goss from the Bravo.

I think the biggest piece of news this week that still has to me reeling, and it's actually really upsetting to me. I just mentioned Jesus, which leads me to blasphemy, of course. And did you know that Sonia Rita's house on the Real Housewives of New York? She sold her house. They got it for a steel and has been turned into a sober living facility. What? Yes.

The fuck. That is like opening a gay porn studio inside of an old renovated church. How dare you? How dare you? Listen, we saw poltergeist. So I just want to say, by the way, I was on Rachel Lindsay's podcast is coming out tomorrow and we discussed this. We discussed this, this situation here.

And I'm going to say to you what I said to her, which is that we saw a poltergeist and we saw what happened when you build a house on a burial ground. It's not good. And that's what happens here. This is a sobriety burial ground. I just don't think that there's any way you can stay sober in that house in that household. There's no way. There's too many memories.

It's like built into the walls. You have to torch it down. You cannot make that a sober living. Not only could you not be sober in there. You shouldn't be sober in there. That is a space that is a testament to one lady's drunken descent into madness. And I don't think that anyone should have to be forced to be sober in there. I think that's such a good way of putting it like a burial ground.

You know, nothing good is going to come to that. Yes. It's not. It's like, you know, that's seen in polter guys as long as we're talking about horror movies, you know when it's like the skeletons like emerge out of the pool. And it's like, what is this? Like, you built it on a burial ground and you never told anyone? It's like that, you know?

Yeah, nothing that's going to happen there. That house was built to be a shit-faced, you know, good for nothing in. I mean, that's what that house is for. That's how it should remain. I don't believe in a reason. And also, I feel kind of bad because sober living, listen, that's hard. That's a rough road to hoe. And they're out there trying to hoe it in a hose house, like in an old house house who just, you know,

just first of all, Sonia, this might get Sonia. sober just so she can move back into that penthouse. She can be like, it's sober living. Sony will probably be the one to bring the booze back to that house. She'll sneak her way back in. She'll bring everybody Capri Sun bags. They'll all be filled with Tinos. But also, I feel bad for the people who move there because that house is not in good repair.

I mean, it's falling apart. There's brown ice. The hot water doesn't work. The pipes are all broken. There's mold in the walls. So do sober people need that? They're struggling. Okay, they're already struggling enough

without putting them in a tent encampment. Okay, we don't need people who are trying to stay sober to be in a building where one day they will go down to the basement and find the bones of pickles. Okay, that is going to send people to the bottle all over again. They're like, you know what? Somebody keeps coming up right behind me. I don't see them, but I feel them,

and they're offering to order me a door dash. Just don't. It's pickles buried in the basement underneath all the man. that they kept in there and all that weird shit that she kept in her basement. They're going to wake up in the middle of the night and there's going to be like the ghost of her facialists just like massaging their faces and just gossiping to them about stuff. They're like, wait a second. And then she just disappears. I could have sworn there was a lady gossiping with me being messy.

Australian Flygirl says it's next to parking. Decent location. Yeah, Sonia's building gets a lot of crap because it's a townhouse next to a big parking garage. And so people like, oh, how so low rent. Everything's next to something. I mean, I don't see that big of a deal with that. Do you? Say go for it.

I would personally love that. I mean, that's great for throwing parties. This is parking for your guests, honestly. Well, also, a parking garage is a great place to score Coke. Mm-hmm. Or probably to have some sort of, like, no wonder why if you had so many gays there on the Wednesdays. Like Wednesday nights at Sonia's, they just go bang in the parking lot afterwards.

I think that's great. I mean, look, like you said, everything in. New York is next to something, you know, to have a townhouse in New York, like, when you can normally only afford, like, a closet, that's, that's, that's, that's living. That's, that's living. KDC says, hopefully the people don't get left outside in the rain and the cold. Sonia makes them all wait in the lobby. So many memories from that town home. I'm sorry, Sonia. I know that has to hurt because, you know, people have been asking Sony to get

sober for years and now to do this to her home, that she put. so much non-work into is just it's hurtful yeah yeah it is it's the worst thing that they could have ever done to this piece of real estate let's be honest yeah really so and to the sober people like they deserve better so um here we go this is from the u.s son work in progress jack's taylor loved bomb had sex with then discarded several female employees at his l-a bar before he was fired i I am shocked. I actually read about this, not in the sun. I read about it in, I just can't believe it quarterly.

Really? It was a headline news and I can't believe it quarterly. Like, who would, and then I was also, they also picked it up on who would have thought weekly? This thing, no, Jacks has been sleeping with his employees, which was, he was already accused of it. We didn't even need to wait for Danny to accuse him of it or bring him to mention. on the valley i think we all saw it coming we're all like well he's pun not intended but like we knew the moment when he was interviewing people last season like he's sleeping with these people he's he's gonna sleep with these these women

and that's exactly what he did and apparently what he did was he would um text them all and be really flirtatious and what he would send the messages that was like um i'm not supposed to be talking to the staff because it's like a violation like but you're like I feel this connection or whatever like you're the only one I want like I feel like it's worth breaking the rules for he kept on making it making them feel special like they were the only one he was texting like he was breaking the rules putting his job in jeopardy for this person and they would he'd give out numbers that way they wouldn't talk on socials and he would be like really vulgar and whatever and so he would just sort of like they just and some of the women say

like didn't really know what to do uh because he's the boss and some of them were like well I resisted. At first, I was hesitant, but then he made me feel so, like, you know, feel certain sort of things. And so he, but apparently he was saying this to all of them. So every time he was like, you're the one, you're the, like, you know, I'm willing to break the rules for you. He was saying that to all of the women at the place, according to this article. And he was, which is like so manipulative. And of course, the big thing is that, of course, he did not use protection, but he would buy them all plan B or offer to buy them all. Oh, that's great. I mean, you know the articles was going to be good because the byline, not the byline, that's who wrote it, right?

The headline number two or whatever, like there's a headline that I read. And then the second headline is multiple women claimed he would not wear protection, but always offered to buy plan B. I mean, that is a thoughtful guy. It's a very thoughtful guy. You know, really, it truly is. And apparently he would be going well. And then all of a sudden he would like turn on them and get,

like really like nasty and mean and get paranoid and be like you're the problem you know all the stuff that we would see him do on TV he was basically doing sort of really much more aggressively and more disgustingly even to these women according to the source for that the spoke who spoke to the son yeah he's he's disgusting so congrats danny because you know what he tried the show with danny in the end of vanderpump rules or not vanderpumper rules the valley and so danny added him for this and then the next week, Jacks was fired from that restaurant. They closed it. So, yeah,

you know, the ultimate revenge. But yeah, what a piece of crap. But also, just like a general public announcement, don't work for Jacks. And also, don't fuck Jacks. Like, seriously, I can't believe in 2025. It's like telling people not to eat

those little bags of silica that come in things that have been delivered to your house. You need to be told not to eat that. You're going to die. You're going to die if you eat the pack of silica, okay? We shouldn't have to be telling people in 2025 not to fucks Jacks Taylor. There's like over a decade of evidence. Like, come on, man.

I think the rule of thumb should be that if you are, you know, if you're being manipulated by Jacks, it can be very hard to see the logic. You start to say, oh, well, actually, he's really nice. He's very sweet. We've all seen him do his charm attack. And you feel these things and you think, well, maybe he's different. Maybe he's changed. Just know, no matter what you're thinking and how much you're starting to like him, don't sleep with Jacks Taylor.

Don't sleep with Jacks. Don't even talk to him. Don't even talk to him. You know, we were doing this a few weeks ago, and I was telling you, I saw a friend who's a sweater gay, who lives in Valley Village. And he said that he always sees Jacks driving around on this golf cart and doing his cameos while he drives, you know, like holding his phone up and be like, hey, I'm in a golf cart. And we got a couple comments being like, that's ridiculous. That's a lie. I don't believe that because it's too busy of a street.

Like you can't just ride down Ventura on a golf cart. Like that's dangerous. It would never happen. He'd be pulled over. And then literally the next week, there were all these pictures of stupid Jacks rolling down Ventura on his stupid golf cart. And no one doing shit to him. Okay. This is L.A.

You can get away. You'd be surprised with what you can get away with here, that little A-Hole Jacks. Yeah. The next stop for him, I guarantee, I guarantee we're going to see him pop up again in the manosphere. And he's going to be actually more repulsive than ever. And he's going to start doing annoying things. He's going to start doing like lots of crossfit. Or there's this new thing.

What's it called? Like hydrox or hybrox or something. He's going to do that. He'll be like in shape, but he'll be kind of like annoyingly right-wingy. And it'll just be just the worst. Yeah, he'll make a turn. He'll take a turn. But hopefully he won't be in the, you know, the zeitgeist for that long.

Just get rid of him. I don't even want to hear about him. And I know I'm promoting it by talking about him. But, I mean, come on, we had to talk about this one because it's typical Jackson. It's just something we all saw coming for a long time. So we were all right. Yay. It's time for a commercial.

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By the way, I'm sorry my labeling is so bad today on these stories. I was doing it in bed and my copy. I figured the links were descriptive enough because now links are so like, page six, society, upper east siders mortified by sober neighbors who took over Sonia Morgan's townhouse. They're not going for brevity in the links, you know? Yeah, you know what? You shouldn't even apologize because really I should apologize because it's your birthday and you shouldn't even have to have done any of this.

You shouldn't have to work on your birthday, except for this very moment. So that's my ad. You know, I love reading. I love sitting in bed copying and pasting. I know you do. You do. Definitely one of the times I was like, I get to say this is my work. There is no complaint at all.

Yeah. I'm going to go right to the next thing that's on this list here because I thought this was funny, this link that you put up. And then I had simultaneously seen this other link that goes right with it, right when I read this one. So it's about Stephanie. This is a, this is just a stupid story. But this is, so Stephanie's stylist is, it's clapping back at the haters because haters are going to hate, okay? So the stylist, someone somewhere on social media said something like, nothing about Stephanie's personal style clicks in place for me.

If it's not the bangles, it's the bun. If it's not the bun, it's the makeup. If it's not the makeup, it's the color of this dress. If it's not the color of this dress, it's the dress itself. And then the Bengals, then the bun, and then the makeup, and then the color of the dress, And then this dress, her personality, by whoever wrote this, please write a musical because you are the next Stephen Sondheim.

I'm telling you this right now. The rhythmic nature of this beautiful comment is so perfect. Her personality isn't much better, either, although it's nice to see a woman unafraid to wield her private jet, like a weapon, it's her only good accessory. So someone wrote that.

So Stephanie's stylist has set to the tune of Hua La Traduction. Which, I don't know, is that like an EDF song or something? He responds, Thank you so much, People Magazine for your opinion. Oh, I guess People Magazine wrote this. Yeah, this is a People Magazine article. I was just waiting for you to get to that

because I was cracking up that you thought this was just a shitty person on the internet. Now the shitty people have taken over the internet, okay? We're now running People Magazine. People Magazine just trolling Stephanie, hardcore. Oh, wow. That makes us even funnier. I thought it was just someone on Reddit,

just writing an amazing comment, but no, this is People Magazine. So Rob Angel says, Thank you so much at People Magazine for your opinion on how horrible you think my work is. Heart emojis around my face, I love it. A weak person would be devastated to see this. However, a confident person like myself

knows that whoever wrote this article has absolutely no taste because, sweetie, she looks stunning. The cyberbullying on myself at Cesar and at Stephanie Chichagyi is appalling. And if you think after a few episodes, if you think a few episodes of a TV show means that you know everything about a person and their personality, it just personifies your ignorance. Have a blessed day and get a life. You are never coming on the plane.

You are never coming on Stephanie's old man ball plane, okay? You will not be driven by old day. Wrangling that air. So have fun on the train, bitch. Wow. Wow. I'm glad to see that this person is not a weak person who is not devastated by this. I love to see a non-insure person.

I love how screaming that people are so insecure while you're ranting and raving on Instagram going crazy. I'm sorry, Rob Angel. You're trying to do a Jackie O thing on Stephanie. And we're just not buying it, okay? Jackie O. earned that status. You don't get to just come take it. And then what he's proving to us, like his proof of his great styling, and I'm sorry, I'm stuttering, but I'm trying to bring up this window right now.

Just want to shake the picture. It's a birthday stutter. It's this is his example. I mean, I personally think this is okay. You know, this is one of her better outfits, I think. I agree. It's just interesting that he chose to dress her, like kind of a golden crappy.

It's like she's kind of poop emoji in this picture. If you really look at it, long and hard. So I don't know. You know what's so funny is that also another shoutout. I was on two judgy girls. Then the episode is airs today. And Courtney clocked something that we both missed, which is that Stephanie on the latest episode of Miami was wearing like a red jumpsuit kind of thing.

And this was a week after, Stephanie was the only one in the cast who did not wear red to dinner because she said she had no red. And then all of a sudden she had red for the next party. So I just want you to know, Mr. Angel, we are also aware of your complicit activity in lying on the dress code, okay? Because we know you had a red number for her and you lied. You lied and you participated in the lie that she did not have something red when everyone else was wearing red. Don't think we don't notice these things, even though we didn't notice and had to be told by someone, but now we notice and now we see it all. Yeah, that's the girl who shows up to white to somebody else's wedding. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like Alex McCord at a wedding in Quagg. So, yeah. The other thing is that she, first of all, this guy is doing his, he's doing his duty. You know, he is a loyal gay. to his to his boss and like the first rule of being a makeup and hair gay or stylist gay is that when people come for your boss you have to attack on their behalf so he's doing the the right thing there but also what's so funny is that literally just as i stepped on for tonight's broadcast i happen to see on twitter uh from uh queens of bravo they put up this this tweet this some social media post from stephanie and they're

Their headline is Stephanie went to a drag show in an attempt to show that she's fun. And we see two back-to-back Instagram stories. The first one is Stephanie wearing this like a Kermit the Frog, like fragile rocky green thing. And the caption is, wait, before I start, you didn't think I was boring, right? Because I have rules, but I'm not that uptight. So she's literally being like, guys, I'm not Jackie. Oh, look at me. I'm wild and crazy.

And we see her in this outfit looking so silly. And she's like clearly dancing and clearly like, oh my God, I'm with like a drag queen. right now this is actually like so cool i'm like so i'm so relaxed i'm so fun the gays love me they absolutely love me and then the next shot is her being like that was fun right just trying so hard to prove that she's fun yeah i went to a drag show this weekend because i was in palm springs and we went to this like fundraiser for trans trans people basically i mean it was like a longer title but for basically a trans fundraiser which was really good it was like a community fundraiser thing and so they had a bunch of really good

queens there well they also had a lot of drag kings and i haven't seen a ton of drag kings you know they're just not as popular in that world so they had this drag king come out and he was small he was a small guy and so he comes out and he's doing this like manly number by the way i think that's why drag kings can't catch on because no one like really jams the same to like willy nelson in a drag bar you know what i mean they actually probably would do willy nelson i'm trying to think of a better example but like nicholas like no one's going to go crazy over Nickley. Anyway, that's not the point. So the drag king comes out and there's a Bachelorette party there, because of course there is. There's at every drag show. And they

were really cute. And the bride, the drag queen immediately eyes the bride and comes right up and picks her up and carries her to the stage and drops her ass on the ground. Oh my God. He dropped her. He dropped her on the ground. Okay. And she's like, I'm okay. I'm okay. But she took forever to get up. I don't think she was okay. And then the hostess, you know, the drag queen who was hosting it, we were sitting right by the backstage entrance, you know, like where they come on and offstage. And at the end of his number, he's waving and he's like smiling and she goes up to him. She pushes him behind the camera. She goes, get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. I died. I died. But anyway, yeah, Stephanie was like the girl they dropped in the

drag show. It's like her first time. You know, she's like, totally down and it's like you're the girl she's the girl that you're rooting for that drag queen to drop um but yeah i saw her posting on instagram this week like oh my god hey everybody these are all the friends that i pay for look at me buying friends i must be buying them right that's why i'm surrounded by friends and it's her at some party just doing her silent laugh and then um i'm like you paid for all those people like you're paying for the dinner like why are you How is that not buying your friend? I don't know.

The whole thing with her is she cannot be this defensive. You can't be a housewife and then getting offended at every little thing because you could be the sweetest housewife on the planet and people are still going to show up on your Instagram and go, you dumb bitch, you're all shadow stupid. You know, it's just the nature of the beast. You need to calm me down over there. Question for you. Yes. I'm sorry. Say what you're going to say.

Such an interrupt. Oh, I was just going to say she's going to have a tough time. next season because you know she's going to be a villain next like a really big villain you know they're going to go for her next season yeah well kiki and gerty have done interviews uh kiki unfollowed gerty it's like a big deal everybody's like why kiki why so they've been doing interviews and they've both said in their interviews that this is going to be a record-breaking produce uh reunion because something absolutely, something this absolutely never happened before on any housewives reunion happens at this reunion. So people are asking like, what is it? I don't know what

it is. I have a guess, but what's your guess? Something that has never happened before. Maybe the announcement of the new cast member, maybe or maybe someone gets promoted live on the show on the reunion? Oh, like, turned it to, like from friend of to, from friend of to regular. Maybe someone, maybe someone gets fired on the spot, although kind of Adrian Maloof was sort of fired at the reunion once. That will be your last act as a Bravo housewife. I think Stephanie's going to quit. That's my guess. Because Stephanie posted something after the reunion that people are like, did you quit? I don't even remember what it was because it wasn't that dramatic, but it was something like, oh, my God, I don't know, whatever it was.

People were like, are you going to quit? Are you quitting the show? And she said no. Most reunions. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm wondering if that's my only guess. I don't know what else it could be. Oh, well, East Awesome has a prediction.

Air conditioning was discovered at the reunion. Maybe that's what happens. Carrie says someone shits the couch and Emily says, Larsa reveals her plastic surgery. Someone says something that's never happened. probably Andy not asking about plastic surgery and Amanda says at Carrie Shirley Ramona pooped on the reunion couch before

I don't think that would mean I don't think that would be the first one I have to say one thing that I was really shocked about was that on Friday I saw that Larsa was trending and lots of people I went on and I looked and lots of people were just like super angry at Larsa for being mean to Lisa and saying how Lisa is such a nice girl and everyone's ganging up on Lisa yada yada yada yada yada yada and everyone was just like coming down on Larsa which they should because Larsa is like literally like a

demon that's come out of hell but like it's just funny to me that everyone is so kind to Lisa I'm like does everyone forget that Lisa's an asshole too I'm just I feel like they're both two assholes just going at each other it's like death becomes her right and it was just very funny that like to me the audience was super sympathetic to lisa but i think that just goes to show like no one likes a gang up on these shows no matter what that's why katy is doing so well in orange county yeah i think so although katy i mean i don't know if she's doing so well do you think she's doing really well i think she's kind of a mess i'm i'm kind of embarrassed for her because i've been rooting for that girl but that's just getting worse and worse no she's very she's very

messy but we're all rooting for her and like we're all rooting we're like oh and then There's always pictures, like, every time I go on to X, people are like, there's always a picture of Katie looking, you know, drop dead gorgeous. They're like, look at her. They could only wish. They could only want. And they showed up like a picture of Tamara looking like she just climbed out of a washing machine. And they're like, look at Tamara trying so hard. So like people, I think, are like on the Katie's side.

Even though I think we all at this point acknowledge that she's lying too much. Yeah, she's full of it. I mean, she's extremely artless. I would say her art level as a house. wife is sad like it's bad it's really bad but maybe with some practice she should be she could be better i mean i just like that she stays so calm i think that there's something to that about having that level of just icy calmness that no matter what you say to her she's just like that's not true i didn't do it whatever shannon forgot her sandwich i think katie is sort of like

a will afford type you know like it's having her moment we're rooting for her we know she can we know she can do it but she's like maybe slightly too clunky to really be legendary you know like she has to she just has to kind of get a little tighten it up tighten it up and have like a like have some longevity there you know yeah get you live straight but this week when or last week when they um had her confessional and she's like okay so should i say what really happened or what i'm supposed to be saying or like which which do you guys want right now. I'm supposed to say the truth or do you want me to keep lying? Should I go with this lie or that

lie? Which one do you guys want? And they're like, okay, tell us the truth. Yeah, exactly. Emily says, kudos to katie, considering this is her second season and she's already got the monotone lies down. That's exactly right. Monotone lies. I'm really excited for this episode of

next episode of Orange County. But anyway, let's go on to some more headlines. Well, let's get this one. I'm going to do another OC because we brought up Katie. You want to talk about the Art of Lying and how to get it down, Pat. There's no one better to ask than Slade Smiley, ladies

and gentlemen. This is from the famous French magazine that we're all subscribed to ever since the 80s. And Real Housewives, Slade Smiley, reveals what he told Katie's husband Matt. During the call

is Gretchen Rossi Blast Katie. Oh, for lies. This was written by Barnell Anderson. Barney. So there's quite a bit going on with the real housewives of Orange County, blotty, blah, blah. As fans know, Katie and Gretchen, we're on good terms, blah, blah. Gretchen was on the recent episode of Juicy Scoop with Heather McFuckin' Donald. What about that? Glad to see Heather doing well over there. Hey, Heather, we're proud of you. Keep on keeping on. Look at you. Where she discussed her issues with Katie. She said, we're in New Orleans,

and Katie is swearing that she did not tell Kiki this fake story. And she's like, I swear, I did not tell Kiki this story, and she's like adamant. Where's the Slate quote? Can we just get to the Slate quote? We know what Gretchen's going to say. Now they brought up naked wasted. Gretchen said, by the way, I'm not trying to protect Tamara from

anything. So then, Katie, and now Matt are doubling down. And Matt is now claiming that Slate called him in New Orleans and said, protect Gretchen, hold the line. She was very disappointed in Matt. And he was just saying, don't speak to bloggers or media.

that's all it was. Slade himself says he was asked if it was true that Katie had been calling bloggers and he denied that it was true. Slade added that he told Matt Janella, well, neighbor, I don't want to hear a month from now that she actually did it

because okly dookly that's been her track record where she denies, denies, denies, and then all of a sudden she flips and there's an admission. And that's exactly what happened. Now she's changing her story after denying it on camera, not to say she won't be welcome at my house for Putin anytime soon because she's a neighbor and that's how we do

neighbors hoodly doodly snooly doodly slate smiling. Here comes one right now. I just don't what I don't it's like Gretchen being on camera telling Tamara yeah well I got I was really, really drunk. And the next day I went to the hospital because I was so sick. And then telling us, I never went to the hospital, that to me is a harder pill to swallow. Like that's like, like, we're talking about like, oh, our Katie and Matt lying, whatever. Like, Katie obviously did lie. But her next like potential lie makes more sense that she and she and and Matt are protecting gretchen because there was a request that gretchen you know that they were the protect

gretchen now whether or not that's true we don't know because katy has lied but i think gretchen having a more of a blatant lie means that i just don't believe gretchen as much and slade you know history of being sort of a housewife spengali does not work in his favor either so in this case i i'm going to side with katy i do believe that slade said something along the lines of like Like, hey, like, don't, like, just, let's just deny everything. Deny everything. I don't want this to become a whole mess. And, but now it has to become a whole mess.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's a messy season because they're all lying so much. And it's a couple of crazy things are happening. One, you've got Katie. I mean, obviously, Katie goes to dinner with all the couples. Gretchen says, yeah, that night was really bad. I went, I felt so sick in the morning. I went to the hospital.

And they tested me. And I tested positive for something or whatever she says, which was probably just. exaggerating it was probably something like i woke up and i was so sick i thought i'd been roofied but you know god knows what she actually said then katie was so excited to get gossip that she immediately went out and started telling bloggers or and a podcast which is not a blog but still and then she got caught and then grette then slade was like hey keep this off camera we don't want all this on camera we just got gretchen back on here we don't want brought us you know getting rid of gretchen so that has amazing because they've all proven now to be such liars that actually katy is believable now

because everybody else is lying so much that it's made katie believable which is crazy but the even crazier part is tamara is such a fucking mastermind that she was the one who perpetrated naked wasted and now she's got everybody else fighting over who's a bigger liar between gretchen and uh katy i mean that's pretty smooth you can say what you want about tamara But that's art. Yeah, someone in one of our Instagram comments said something like Gina Keo is the one who's getting away with murder. Because if you go back to the episode, it's actually Gina who tells Ryan to go check in. Well, Gina's not on the season.

And Gina Keo is not on the season. And it wasn't Gina's son with her hands all over Gretchen and making Gretchen's drinks all night. So, yes, Gina's also an asshole. And if you bail her ass out here, we'll give her shit too. But right now, we're talking about Tamara because that's who's on here. Now, the other thing is, sorry, that was pretty harsh, right? I didn't mean to you, I loved it. I was like, listen here, young lady.

Well, we'll deal with Gina Keo. I drove by a sword today that was like, that's had the name Keo on it. I was like, I wonder if that's like Gina Keo's daughter. I was so rude. Sorry, commenter. I wasn't yelling at you. I'm just saying, like, I read that book. I read All Diamonds and Rose.

And I listened to a lot of it because Amy Phillips voices it beautifully. And I did listen to it. I did read all that. But I don't, first of all, Gina, I believe. But I don't believe everything in that book, first of all, because a lot of it is what the producers say. And we all know we've been lied to by producers for 20-something years now.

So we should know better than to believe everything that comes out of a producer's mouth. But the Gina thing, yeah. I mean, Gina was at fault too. And Vicki was greatly at fault too. But people are leaving Vicky out of it because we're talking about Tamara. And Tamara's the one who brought this all. back into our minds, you know? Tamara is one who brought back.

What's interesting to me is what I also can't figure out is when, when Katie allegedly said this to Kiki, I'm wondering what Katie's motivation was because I can believe it going 50-50 in two ways. I can see 50-50. She's going to bring some, some gossip that she's hoping that Kiki will say on the air and we'll get Tamara. But I can honestly, I can also imagine. I'm not, I really am not trying to be a kiddie apologist.

I can really imagine a world where she thinks she's just like gossiping, like, oh my God, and guess what I heard, thinking like, oh, Naked Waste was years ago, so who would care about that? And then she sort of says it carelessly, and then all of a sudden it spirals into a big thing. And so I don't know. I wonder which way, which way do you think she was really, do you think she was trying to push a story or do you think she was being careless? I see both things being totally viable, and I'm really split on how, how, how, what her mindset was. I mean, going to lunch, like planning a lunch with someone who hosts a show on Radio Andy that gossips about Housewives. I mean, maybe she just did it to kind of get curry favor because, you know, we know doing what we do.

A lot of people will do that. They'll try and buddy up because they think we'll make fun of them less until they listen to. the next day. But, you know, they do do that. But I think when you're sitting down with someone and you let information like that go, I think she's definitely trying to come for Tamara, don't you? I don't think she was trying to come for Gretchen. I think she was trying to come for Tamara because now she's all upset that Gretchen's not standing behind her when she's like, you did say that. She doesn't understand the concept. She just thinks that because of how they've acted her for season. Yeah. How they acted was like, well, Katie, this is all out in the public domain so you can't

get mad at anybody for saying anything. So she's thinking the same rules apply to her. And she just doesn't have the numbers on her side, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I'm interested. There is a part of me that also thinks that if she was telling Kiki this with intention, I can imagine Katie thinking like fuck Tamara and I'm going to help, I'm going to help Gretchen out. Like, you know, I'm just for Gretchen. I can almost imagine her thinking. And I, again, I'm not trying to be an apologize about this, but, you know, it, it's just as, this is such a funny controversy to me because it's so old. And also, it's such a distraction from, like, from what Tamara did. And also from how Tamara, what Tamara's behavior has been all season.

And so, I mean, Tamara is kind of a genius. I mean, she drops really a stupid bomb. Like, Katie told Kiki about, like, that you said that I roofed you. It's such a convoluted and like just, it's just an old story thing, and it has gone off like wildfire. I'm so sorry to interrupt you, but you just reminded me something that I was thinking about as I went to bed the other night because isn't this what everybody thinks about as they're trying to go to sleep? I was thinking for weeks, I've been saying, what is Tamara's motivation? Why in the world would Tamara say, why would she bring up the fact that she could even have possibly Roofied Gretchen? It just doesn't make sense. What I think, I think I found the answer in my sleep the other day.

The whole thing with Fadra coming back, people were having a fit that Fadro was coming back, even that she was put back on the traitors because they're saying, you accused Candy of trying to Rufi Portia, which is a rape allegation, basically, how dare you? And it kind of put candy in this, like, not hero position, but it put Fadra in the worst villain position ever in Housewives history, really. And deservedly so. Fadra earned that one. I'm not standing up for that. Do you think that Tamara considered that the same thing

and tried to get herself the same candy edit by saying like, look, someone over here is trying to accuse me of rape and it's going to make her the ultimate villain of the show and it's going to make me kind of a hero in a way? I think she was reading old bad housewives humor in her, or not humor, but lore. I think she was remembering housewives lore in her mind and she was trying to use something from another show

and it backfired on her because no one's going to think of that because we have the footage of you where anybody would believe that you did rufie her and your son was being such a fucking creep but just the way that Tamara looks at herself I was thinking she was trying to

give herself a candy at it I mean I love the conspiratorial element of that I don't think Tamara's thinking on that level personally I think Tamara's thinking let me say something that's going to turn these two against each other and she's going to pretend

tend to care about Gretchen's feelings, like, oh, my God, Gretchen, can you believe she was saying this? She was making it sound like you're lobbing accusations. And I think that she was, actually, I mean, there was, there is an element of like, she's saying these things that could put you in a situation that Fadra was in. But I don't think, I think that she's merely just trying to turn people against each other, because, um, this is all an effort to isolate Katie. and somehow this leads back, my conspiracy is that somehow this leads back to the ongoing war of Tamara versus Shannon

and I'm just trying to figure out how this all works and I can't quite visit it out. A lot of, the comments are split. Some people are like, hell no, and some people are like, that makes sense. One of my favorite was Dee who said, yes, and then she said, wait, no. So I think that's kind of where I fall on my own theory.

Seagab says Tamrat is not that smart, but she didn't pull it off. So ultimately she wasn't that smart. It wasn't a well-thought-out plan. But I think Tamara, after the last season, was so villainized. Do you remember how quiet she was at the reunion? She wouldn't even speak. She was just like, yeah. And that's why I said, I'm sorry, guys.

I'm a different person now, autismness. And so she was trying that whole thing in the last reunion because she got spanked online so much. And so I think that was going to be her play at having a hero at it this year of being like, Can you believe someone would accuse me or something like that? But that's only a half-baked theory. And yes, admitting it is a lot because it is admitting that I think of Tamara before I got I think of these shows. I do.

I'm like, what are they really doing? What are they doing to me? Did you say this or did Courtney say it on two judgy girls that Katie and Tamara seem to be friends now? Or is that just a fabrication in my mind that I'm just spreading false. Yeah, Tamara and Katie are friends now. where what because now Katie now Katie is against Gretchen because she's going to call Gretchen a liar which puts her on Tamara's side because that's all Tamara's been wanting to do and also Tam and also Tamara breaks down Katie isolates her from the pack and then takes her in under her wing and that's how Tamara also like gets her power in this group this is how she like gets people like Gina and Emily like under her wing or even Heather which is wild because Tamara spent an entire season trying to destroy Heather an entire season two seasons ago and now heather is on the show such a tamara defender she's the one

having you know lunches with tamara at the place with a hot waiter you know being like i am trying to find out what is going on with you and so i think that tamara has this like amazing technique of just like destroying isolating and then taking in these people yeah yep find that waiter by the way that did the there was like a lot of talk on friday like who is cody the waiter did anyone find him has cody been found i'm asking our audience right now oh god do people still look for hot guys like that i mean what are you going to do with them go you just want to look just to look just to go get your turamisu from a hot guy huh no no i'm not i don't want to go there i'm just saying we all just want to see his instagram etc you know it's

Cody, Cody, the hot waiter. You know. Yeah, I don't care. I don't care about hot waiters. There are a dime a dozen, darling, all right. Let's go into, sorry, Cody. Cody, I hope Cody's not somewhere like deflated because I was like, fuck hot waiters.

Who needs them? Give me a good old ugly waiter anytime. They'll work harder. Okay, so Miami legal drama, Stephanie's Shogai and her husband, Shohaji, how do you pronounce that? And I don't mean to be rude. I just don't want to be problematic. So Jai.

I may be. Shodai? Okay. Stephanie Shoujai and her husband, old balls playing owner, intend to sue former Real Housewives star Anna Kynon says for defamation. Oh, no, Anna. The boogeyman of Miami is Anna.

What happened now? Okay, well, it's a video for some reason. I guess it's a clip. Anna, Anna Kooks, but it's with a Q-O-O-K-S. Anna Koo-K-S. Anna Koo-K-S. Breaking news. Reality court has officially made it, folks. We've just received our first, I intend to sue you for defamation letter. A real threat of a frivolous lawsuit, and we are going to have so much fun letting this play out in the court of public opinion. None of this would have been possible without our judgey something, judgey juror something, who tune in every week and keep us fueled with hot tea, side eye, and unsolicited opinions. Because apparently, she has been talking about all the gossip that Stephanie

and by the way we can't be sued because I'm not coming out with this gossip I'm just repeating what I've already heard all over the internet from Rob the stylist okay I heard this directly from Rob Stephanie Stylist okay great just kidding I'm just kidding it's just shit that's been going around on the internet and YouTube videos etc that Stephanie was the wife's assistant at the company and then she ended up basically stealing that lady's life and taking the husband and getting her out of the house house and doing all of that stuff and now claiming that you know all this other stuff so that's the

goss and i guess anna was talking about it as is now going to get sued oh my goodness and somewhere i just heard the uh she's she's here right now she's in town right now i just heard her saying on my back um maybe they'll bring Anna back for another scene where she awkwardly sits there and like doesn't do anything and we all get excited and then get let down i know she really is good on the bench but man once you get her up there she's like never mind i don't want to be here anymore bye she is awkward i'll always remember the season of food network star that she was on and she was very ill-equipped for that show which was hilarious she was what was her what was her schick Cuban food i think was it Cuban food yeah but you can't just do no but i mean like what

was her like emotional stick because you know how they all have I think it was like I'm this sexy chef and I'm the you know I'm gonna look Anna can concoces I never know how to say her last name food network star and so says I think concis I don't know the skinny Latina um I don't know food network star a day doesn't really have much what's the one thing you want to can I'm trying to look there's there's not much I don't know I don't know what her thing was. I think it was just, she was Anakin Coates. I want to say it was

sexy. I know that there was Penny. I know that Penny was sexy. Well, a few of them have done like the sexy. Wasn't hers like romantic or like dating food or she did something like that? I don't know. I don't remember. But that's the point. That's why she didn't make it because we didn't remember. Can we do a piece of

gossip that's I feel like we never even addressed? But I'm looking at one of these articles about Southern hospitality rumors. And I don't know how we missed it, but I didn't realize that Will Culp was fired from the show or that he's leaving, but people are saying that he was fired because he didn't go to that reunion. And now, I guess that happened last month, this news.

And now the gossip is Ali, aka Ali Balie, has been hanging out with the castelot. And the rumor is maybe she might be on the show. Although, I guess the source is saying she doesn't have a role in the show, she won't be a cast member. Would you want to see Allie Bally on Southern Hospitality? No, not really. But I'm not like anti or anything. I thought she was a very nice girl on Vanderpump Rules. And I certainly feel for what she went through with James, but I don't know what she has to offer other than just being like, yeah, guys, give them another chance.

Like, I don't really remember anything that she did. She was nice, though. Maybe they could use that. Or maybe she could be like the card reader when that flaky ass grace Lily's like, oh my God, I got my chakris did, y'all. I got my chakristened by this girl. Yeah. Nice.

And brings her own. That sounds very accurate. That's exactly what her role will be on the show. I can see that. Wow, the time is really flown. It is time to talk to you. the listeners. So the audio portion of this that goes out to the public

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