Watch What Crappens - #2990 RHOC S19E09 Part 1: Katie-Sixed

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

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Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watcher Crappins ad free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Hello, and welcome to Watch Watch Crapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today is the glorious and handsome and all-around good guy, Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? You. Hi. I just want you to know, Ronnie, I will never round up everyone to chase you off of this show.

No matter what happens. Yes. You get to stay. I will continue to shoot with you. Thank you, my spicy little Asian. Thank you. We are talking about real houses of Orange County. The internet is losing its shit. They've gone crazy. There's a lot to talk about.

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with Crappins on demand. Hello, everyone out there. And if you don't want to watch our videos on Patreon, after a week or so, they go onto YouTube. But you probably want to watch them fresh. So they're right there. Patreon. That's the news. And now we are going to talk about Orange County. And I've got to say, Ronnie, people are mad at this season as these dumb hookers fault. Okay. Everyone's saying this isn't so toxic. This is, it's, we're getting an audience reaction like we got for New Jersey. And first of all, I want to say, audience, be careful. Because I know we're all annoyed at this Katie situation, but like overall, I actually think that Orange County is in a really good place. I think it's like a really good cast. And like, let's not spook Bravo into doing

too many things. However, if this is a quote unquote toxic situation that Bravo's like we got to like shuffle some people out, I think, is this finally going to be the thing that gets us Gina and Emily out the door? Because I think they'll never go. They're not going to go, right? They're not going to go. No, they're going to keep them. Yeah. I just, I think that if heads roll because of the season, if, if, like, the perception is that things are too toxic and Bravo feels like they've got to make some wholesale changes, I think they did it to themselves. They did it to themselves it's one thing okay Katie's a liar she's obviously Katie obviously lied okay but the fact that they are they're crucifying her for it and they won't even shoot with her to the point where she

has to leave the show and then that's the toxicity right there and you guys are going to do it to yourselves you're trying to shoot Katie off and now some of you guys may lose your your jobs as a result of it congratulations you idiots well they're all lying Gretchen lies in this episode I mean Katie's lies aren't worse than theirs and I believe Katie when she said that Gretchen and Slade said that. So, I mean, I don't know. You know, they're just, there's somebody that lies in it. It's really hard to keep them all straight. There was literally a point last night where I described my head and said, what are we even talking about at this point? It's like, she said this and you said this. And 12 years ago, you said this. But then they're showing a timestamp of

12 years ago. But then it's 13 years ago. And Tamara was like, but remember when I sat down with Slate and I apologize? And I was like, yeah, but that was a year before this other clip where you were saying mean, it's just my timeline. I'm exploding. My head is exploding. Too much. It's too much, but I'm enjoying it. Still enjoying it. You know what? I've got to say. Yeah. Also, I have to ask you a question that has nothing to do with Orange County. I'm sorry everybody to derail it recap so quick. Go ahead. Should I befriend the baby bobcat that's living outside? I want to be friends. A baby bobcat is living outside. Is that what you call them kittens? Where? I saw it yesterday for the first time. I was playing piano in the window. And there was a little bit. baby. Well, I thought it was, I mean, I thought it was a lion. It looks like a lion. It's like a little baby and it has spots on it. It's like obviously a wild cat. I tried to, but it got away. I was so shocked to see it. Well, first I thought it was a mountain lion, but those don't have spots. So the only other option is bobcats. And I didn't even know we had bobcats here until we went to Ann Margaret's house. And she had a sign that says bobcat crossing. And I was like, we have bobcats. And so I looked up, do bobcats have spots? And they do. And they live in the hills. So. I have a baby Bobcat, but then that means there's other babies and possibly a mom protecting the baby. And it's not a, it's just not a kitten. No, it's not a cat.

It's like a wild cat. I would not, personally, I would not befriend it because if there is a mama, mama may come calling. And I think we don't go near that. Also, I think it's a wild animal. So I don't think you should befriend it. But it's so let nature, take it's course. Well, get a kitten then. I just don't.

Those are in my house. I want this one outside the house. I want to be like Monique from Real House, Isid and Potomac. Have you seen Monique from Real House, Isid Potomac? She's been walking around with these little baby hummingbirds that keep coming to her and coming right to her hands and stuff. She's like magic. Wow, that's my true. I want to be like that with baby bobcats. We have hummingbirds on our patio.

We have a little hummingbird feeder. And I would, I've seen people do that. And I would love, I don't know how you do that. Maybe you need to have essential oils or something. They don't come to our hands. Well, also like, we have. There's like a bunch of green hummingbirds, which are sweet and lovely. But then there's this one big orange one who I've named Gil, and he just comes and he always scares everyone

away. He's like very territorial about the feeder. And I'm like, that's such a Gill thing. Like, he's the guy in the office who just like walks into the break room and everyone has to scatter. And so, Gil ruins everything. So I think any chance I would ever have of like befriending a hummingbird, Gil ruins. Well, but if I made friends with the bobcat, the bobcat could eat Gill. You see?

And then you'd be a, you'd have hummingbirds and I'd have a killer bobcat on my side. You're not bringing the bobcat over to our patio to kill with Gil. Okay. I will. I don't like, I don't like Gil, but I will protect Gil. I'm not protecting fucking Gil. Fuck Gil. Okay.

You should take a picture of your bobcat next time you see it. Have you seen it more than once? I tried to. No, I just saw it yesterday. It was just like walking around the hill. And I was so shocked to see it. And of course, I was like, hi. You know, it's like talking to it.

And it wouldn't turn around because the window was closed. But I tried to get a picture, but I just got a picture of the bush. So anyway, the point is where Real Housewives of Orange County, season 19, episode nine, which is also kind of known as befriending the Bobcat, because everybody decides to be nice to Tamara again, which I don't really get. But here we go. Here we go. So we start off and we see like the recap of all the crazy stuff from last week and Katie being like, Kendall, I'm done. I didn't lie. I didn't lie.

I never said this. Oh, did you see the conspiracy theory from Cincinnati? today about Katie and what is it okay this is this one honestly I think this is ridiculous so Katie the the new conspiracy theory is that there is a there's some account out there that's saying that this is somehow she knows fault which oh yes I did see that yes this is my favorite conspiracy theory and I think it is 100% not true I think it's pretty because Katie is doubling down Katie clearly told Kiki okay like Kiki has said it I believe Kiki

on this. I don't think Kiki, like, I just don't think this is, I don't see why it, like, why Kiki would cover for Sheena if she heard her from Sheena. But the theory is that Shina and Gretchen are really, really good friends. And it was Sheena who told Kiki that, um, that Gretchen said that she was roofied. And Kiki is saying it came from Katie. I don't think Kiki has any motivation to set up Katie in that way. It's, that's how just, it's too far-fetched, okay? I am, I am on Katie's team, but, like, Katie is messy. She has had a history of lying throughout the season, and she just, she just didn't do it

well, and she just, I don't know, I, I, the Sheena theory, it's entertaining, but I just do not believe it at all. Well, yeah, because even if she did tell Sheena and Sheena told whoever, she still, told kiki right like we know that she she admitted that she went and hung out with kiki and told her stuff so i don't but like but the theory is that like katy didn't katy's not the one who said it it was that maybe kiki got the i guess maybe katy saying like i told her about the hospital thing but i never said ruffy and maybe she knows one who said ruffy but either way why do we keep why are we why are we also discrediting the messy daily mail reporter who got in the middle of all of this who's

somehow not in any of the, like, not in any of the online discussion, even though it was outed by Tamara. Well, and then Tamara said that she, Tamara said the reason that she came out with it on the show was because the Kiki told the Daily Mail and the Daily Mail told Dave Quinn and Dave Quinn called Tamara. So that's kind of the chain that they're setting up. But at this point, like, who believes anybody on this show? I really don't.

At this point, I'm just trying to calm down and enjoy the show because it's It's too much. It's outrageous that this stupid, like, daisy chain of gossip is something that's going to get someone, like, kicked off the show. Like, that's what's the true outrage of it, because this is also stupid. And it's also very par for the course of, like, lies and rumors that go around. And, like, this is going to be, like, you're going to drive someone off the show because of this, when there's been, like, so much lying over the years, there have been so many

worse offenses over the years. And this is what you're all going to rally around and say, I don't. don't feel safe. Well, but also, let's concentrate on the real evil here. If we're going to go back all the 13 years to naked wasted, that was when they went out of their way to get Gretchen as drunk as possible to have Ryan follow her into the room. Ryan was pouring those drinks, too, and then have Ryan follow her into the bathroom and try and have sex with her and took him a long time to take the no as well.

So that's kind of the crime here. And the fact that Tamara has warmed it into her now being a hero of the season. because it's so funny how this show works. So you've got Tamara, who is the one who brought this on camera. No matter what you say about everybody else and who they told and who they gossiped with and who they did this to and who they blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It was never brought up on the show. The one who brought it to the show was Tamara. Okay?

Tamara was the one who did it. So then it got Katie villainized and then it got Gretchen villainized. And now it's turned around to Tamara becoming friends with Katie, who's now the most popular person on the show because of all the bullying. And now that is leaking off on Tamra. So now Tamara and Katie are looking like heroes in this whole thing. And who started this whole thing in the first place? Fucking Tamara did. Fucking Tamara did.

And the way that she's wormed this around to making herself kind of a hero now in the comment sections of this show is just fucking hilarious and somewhat magical. Like, I mean, it's because you got two dumb, dums. It's crazy. It's because you got two dumbdums in the mix, Emily and Gina, who of like, they're on this righteous campaign and it's blown up in their faces because honestly I don't although Heather's been good about not letting it blow up in her face but Heather's way behind this too. I think Heather's I mean I don't think I think Heather's just like I don't think

Heather is not like Katie since last year when Katie came for her and you know Heather's like you know I don't know if Heather would have been like I'm not going to shoot with her but Emily and Gina are on the righteous campaign they're the ones who seem to be on a And Shannon, too. But Shannon's also like, that's just Shannon. No one would, no one really ever takes Shannon's righteousness seriously. But Emily and Gina, I feel like, are really aggressively against Katie, despite any time Gina's like, I really can't feel. I was like really trying to make it happen. I was like really trying to give you a shot. It's like, no, you really weren't. You can say that. You weren't. And if anything, if you have to blame one person, I really blame

Emily. I think Emily has gone above and beyond. She arranged an entire polygraph party just to bust this girl. And it's, I don't know what my point was. I think I'm just ranting. I'm just going for it. You know, Emily's stupid. That's the, that's the conclusion from today's episode. Oh, gosh.

Okay, so we start in Emily's living room. And they're still talking about the lie detector. This is flashbacks from last week. She felt every single question. And bangs, the examiner bangs. It's like, yeah, your body reacts to questions in a different way. you're lying. Yeah, we get it.

You're also a paid actress when we know. Very poorly paid. I would assume bangs, shut up over there. And also, you're a bad actress because no lie detector is like, that lady's lying her ass off. You are shame on you. Well, I hope you are being shamed in the lie detector community that you're not even a part of, really.

I hope you go from the polygraph community to the monograph community because it's just going to be one of you. Listen to about polybangs. I know people will be... Polybanks, I know people would be very interested in us actually starting this recap, but guess what? I've got something else to say, which is that in the wake of all this, there was a lot of discussion about how polygraphs, like a proper polygraph takes like two and a half hours, and like, you're just not going to get anything realistic from like a short polygraph. I don't know how long

they were up there, but it definitely looked like people were up there for 20 minutes, maybe. And like, you can do a targeted polygraph that's like about a very specific. specific narrow range of questions, but even that's going to take a while. But even with all of that, we know that it's bullshit from what we've seen on the show without even knowing that this guy's been on a million shows, rents out his services, blah, blah, everything that is brought up later in the show by Katie. We know for a fact that it's bullshit because we saw Gretchen lie in it. And no one even cares.

Gretchen lied in it and she passed the test. So we know that the test is full of shit, you know. even disregarding everything we know about the current justice system where these are not even admissible in a court of law because they're full of shit and emily who's working for the innocence project trying to get innocent people out of prison still like sitting there uh you know waving the flag for a polygraph is ridiculous right people were talking about that online that like uh like polygraphs are known to like really not be reliable and are often used you know against people and if you're on and yet you're she's like, she should know this as someone who's an advocate for the Innocence Project. That's like a big thing that people were talking about. Yeah. So, um, Tamara's like, well, and you wanted. I thought you did say that you went to the hospital, Chris.

Maybe when we were in the car, we were driving to see crocodiles or something. I think you said that you went to see, you went to the hospital. And then she's like, no. And then we see the flashback where Gretchen says in the back of that car. Well, the next day, um, yes, I did go to the hospital trying to whisper it behind the seat. And she's like, because I was so sick. And she's like, no, I said that I was sick. I should have gone to the hospital. That's what I said. And Shannon's like, well, that doesn't mean that you were roofied if you went to the hospital. I mean, I'd go to the hospital. I mean, have I been

Murphy? Maybe I have been Ruby. I don't know. A roofie's good. So after we get the, after we're done with like the flashbacks of what happened last week, we then land in a really, exciting scene, which is Emily and Gretchen getting testosterone injections. So they're here at this, uh, at, at Asandra MD. And Emily's like, this is the appointment that Shane always has on the calendar. Like, don't forget your testosterone appointment. Huh. Because I've been getting testosterone implants. So it's like this rice size thing that they stick in your butt and like, who's not your bottle. Huh. Let me clarify. I'm hilarious. And it just makes a world of difference. My workouts a better and I want to have sex with Shane.

Oh my God. What are they putting up there? Fucking Molly? What kind of drug do they need to put inside of you to want to have sex with Shane? I get the biotee, which is what they're talking about, these little testosterone pills. I just got mine last week. That's why I'm talking like this this week. Hi, everybody.

Welcome. So I get those twice a year. I just got mine last week. And I can guarantee you right now, I do not want to have sex with Shane. Okay. So I don't know what kind of magic pill they're putting up her ass, but nothing is that strong. Yeah. So then I think Gretchen is talking about how she, she's like, she's like, yeah, testosterone is great because all you want to do is like you have sex only long. And then she's like talking about how, let me see a flashback of how she broke Slate's penis because she wanted to have sex too much. But then she also explains that there is a machine that will straighten the penis after it is bent.

So, like, really, it's just so many medical miracles that we learn about on this show. I didn't even know all this stuff could happen to weeners that you could break on. I did know about this. You did know about broken weaners? My friend was dating a guy with a broken penis, and it was an issue. Yeah. Yeah. Like, if you like, like, you could get it like, because it could like, yeah, because it's like when stiff, it could kind of get kind of like,

think about like a straw you know if you like you break a straw or like you know or like a piece of all the all the turtles that have this washed up with penises sticking out all over their face they're like stop i mean stop penises are killing the turtles you don't let don't make me think about straws i'm still upset yeah so but you can fix it you can fix it and uh that's great to know so slate is back up and how can you fix a broken wiener but i've had the same same stuff for two months and had surgery on it. I mean, the world is just not fair, really. I'm going to go get a penis put in my eye. It's going to have a penis sticking out of my eye. Yeah. Because when it comes to men's sexual health or just health in general, there will be a priority

to fund research on that. Don't you worry. Like, who needs your eyes? Let's get us penis working, okay? Do you have any broken penises there probably are in Congress right now? They have mass tracked all the research on that. Who needs your eye? You can just feel around with your penis. okay um so yeah we get to hear about slade's broken wiener and then um gretchen still is talking about his wiener i do not want to hear about slade or shame and their sacks i just don't want to hear about it so then um don't need to know emily is like so after my person new year party i hope the katie's gone you're such a monster for making a Persian New Year party is such a trash event. Shame on you, especially with your father-in-law

in the hospital. And you're supposed to be celebrating Persian. Would your, would your Persian father-in-law be happy that you're using this to ostracize my spicy Asian? How dare you. That's right. Yeah, no, it is pretty shitty. I don't know enough about Persian New Year to know like what it symbolizes and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But like it seems like across the board, most cultures, New Year's are like, let's celebrate coming together, moving forward, opening new chapters, yada, yada. I don't think most New Year's celebrations are like, how can we run someone off of our TV show?

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Join Wondery Plus right now. Gretchen is like, yeah, as far as I'm concerned, I'm not gonna be around if she's around. And Emily's like, yeah, in the end, like you and Tamara had like a long hug, so remember? Which, by the way, I love Gretchen OK being around Tamara, but God forbid Katie, Katie says this thing to Kiki Monique about a passing comment about something that happened 14 years ago.

You will not film whatsoever. That's where she draws the line. Come on, give me a break. Give me a break, Gretchen. So we see a clip of this long hug. And Tamara is saying, Thank you. Thank you so much, Gretchen, for taking the time and going to me with Kiki.

She's like, yeah, well, I needed to, because I needed enough for myself. Well, thank you. Thank you for getting to the bottom of the Grissy. Come here, give me a hug, my little friend. I'm so glad my friend now. I'm so sorry you was dragged into this. You know, after I, you know, got your waist and had my son follow you into the bathroom. Then they had my try to have sex or do it and stuff for fun so you could look like the cheating and slut that you are.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the vindication, Kristen. Well, that was, like, very interesting that she was like, thank you for, like, going and finding out the truth. And I appreciate that you seen that. But I was also like, this wasn't even for you. This was for me.

Yeah. So Gretchen is saying again, something she said about nine million times over the years. I'm cautiously optimistic that the hug was sincere. And then we can maybe, you know, like, you know, I don't know. I just hope I could trust it. However. Then we're back in the waiting room. And she's like, you know, I want to ask Katie if she even feels remorse.

And Emily's like, here's what we need to do. We need to do a beach party. Then we see a flashback to Jen saying, guys, I just, thank you so much for answering my call. I just have a great idea. I want to have a party. A party in a public place. A beach or something that I don't have to, you know, cook or clean or cater. I don't know.

I was hoping it's between a parking lot and a beach, but I don't want to have the same, I don't want to have a party in the same location that my gym was located. So Beach, it is. I love this innovative idea for a real house of Orange County doing something on the beach. They've never really done that before. So Emily is like, can we got to handle where our minds out right now and put it all out there and just like try to reconcile that? Because I just would love for Tamara and Gretchen to just have a conversation or I don't care, go into boxing room and beat the shit out of each other. I mean, I just feel like there's like all these grievances from 12 years ago that we keep on reliving.

and can we hope it's can we just like hop to 2025 please grievances from 12 years ago you're the one who has been rolling around in the grievances like a pig in mud you know like what was this whole katie thing about in the first place you're married to your grievance from 12 years ago shut up yeah so yeah back to the winning you're married to shame for crying out loud so we go back to the waiting room again and it's time to get their their rice and their butts. They're little rice-sized pellets. Um, so, I mean, that's, that's really it. They get, they get their injections. Yeah. So then we go to Oslo Coffee Company. And Jen's there. And now it's a big meeting with Katie and Jen. Dun, dun, done, done. And I just want to say, all I could

concentrate on was the giant muffin sitting in the middle of the table that no one was going to touch. And I just knew it was happening. And I was like, look how much that muffin has put into its look today it looks so delicious yeah it's been in glam for like hours it was prepped i mean multiple people worked on this muffin and these ladies are just going to treat it with total disregard it's almost as bad as last season when uh when gina and jen had to sit down on a coffee shop and jena ordered the world's largest croissant and didn't even bite it and then she stormed out without even having her croissant i was so mad for a month after that disgusting behavior it really is disgusting carmes don't deserve this from you people

people. Carpest deserve respect, you know? They certainly do. So Katie and Jen sit down, very serious. And Jen, um, Katie puts down her purse. And Jen's like, oh, I literally thought you, like, walked up with, like, um, receipts or something. And Kitty's like, oh, I have them. I have some very, very strong receipts that will fully exonerate me 100%. Just brace yourself for what I've got coming to you. Just get ready. It's like, okay, great. I love to see it. So Katie pulls out her envelope. And she's like, well, this is just so hard. I mean, you know, I've had so many conversations

about our lives. Oh, Jen's, I'm sorry, Jen's saying that. She's saying, we just had so many conversations about our lives, about pasts, about the future, about Ryan's paint, splatter, denim, jackets, just so many thoughts about that stuff. I just feel like, what am I missing? And then I sit here after a stupid fucking lie detector test and, like, did you even pass any?

Like, what am I missing? Jen asking what she's missed is hilarious, because to be fair, I think she asked that after every conversation She has with every single person she has an entire life. Yeah, it reminds me of that Golden Girls where Betty White said, what I miss? And Dorothy says, just the boat dear. So Jen's like, yeah, Kitty's been such a loyal friend to me. You know, such a good friend.

But now I look at all those conversations and I think, were those all lies too? What do you mean were they all lies? When she sat there listening to sob about your ex or sob about your current or sob about your children or how are those lies? Stop being a follower, Jen. So back in the day, oh, Jen's having a real meltdown on social media these days. I heard that she's having a meltdown. What's going on with her? I haven't actually looked into it.

She is basically commenting like, you know what? If you guys, how about instead of hating me, you just go over to Katie's page and you sent her love because I'm so sick of this race crap. I can't even. This is ridiculous. This isn't even about race. She's just like, stay off social media, Jen. You're making this worse for yourself. Okay.

Coming on and being like, I'm sick of this race crap. Uh, not. Not great, Jen. All right. So, uh, which will, we'll go to more of that on crappy hour. I'll bring the videos and stuff. So, um, Katie is like, do you want to see something? I have it in a manila envelope. And she's like, oh, no, I don't eat anything with vanilla in it, including that muffin. Please do not make me read the muffin. She's like, no, no, it's manila. It's kind of an envelope. So, um, did you know that the guy they hired is a paid actor? And she pulls out a piece of paper. And she's like, this is Wendy, Wendy, who works for him. This is all on his website, by the way. He tells you all these different things that you can book him for, and some he can do simple acting. What do you think about that? Well, Heather Dubrow does very simple acting,

and she's had a job here for years. I don't know, we're allowed to hold that against people. What is simple acting? It's just like, is that basically like you go on to TV and then they give you lines on what you're supposed to say to the people, And then you, like, I don't know what simple acting is. I can do some black things. It just means like I can be, I can do lie detectors or I can act like I'm doing lie detectors, whatever you need me to do.

He's like, I cannot do Chekhov, but if you need me to read some lines from, you know, like empty nests, I can do that. He's like, yeah, I'll give you a couple of lines from different strokes, but nothing from like Sam. Why can't I think of this? If you need me to, if you, yeah, Sam, I know you're talking about a shepherd.

If you do me, he's like, if you need me, he's like, if you need me to be in your infomercial audience and reacting to a product, I can do that. If you need me to do Tennessee Williams,

I cannot do that. He's like, do you want me to pretend on driving a car? Great. Sit me in a fake car and I'll drive it. Do you want me to improvise driving a car? That is much more difficult.

I don't do that. It's difficult to acting. Do not do my own stance. I like the idea that like the implication that like maybe he's been accidentally called in to an audition for like fences. And he's like, unfortunately, I can be in an infomercial about fences, but I can't be in fences. Yeah, I mean simpler acting. Yeah, I'm from the school. Like someone saw him.

It was like, get this guy in. We need him in our place. I'm sorry. I'm just not qualified for your production. very difficult acting simple they're like sir will you be an extra in avatar he's like that is a lot of makeup that is difficult acting okay it's simple simple that's crossing a line it's crossing i have to speak with my union representative i'm in i'm in a sasag which is simple sag i'm in simple sack aftera just may violate our union's rules so katie tells her yeah this

guy's an actor and he can do simple acting and Jin goes, okay, you know what, this is fucked up? Okay, is it fucked up that she's telling you this or is it fucked up that they just hired an actor to do the party? Like, what do you mad? Do you even know what you're mad about, Jen? Jen just came in here ready to be pissed. She was about to

offer him a role in Edward Alby play. This is fucked up. I didn't know he was a simple actor. I thought he was a regular actor. This is really fucked up. Well, I think that was set up by Gina and Emily. Did you notice every single question was a set happened. She goes, no. I mean, every question was a question to see if you were lying,

you know, I think that's the point. Never ask Jen if she noticed something. Okay, don't ask Jen that question. There's only one answer to it. No, I didn't notice that. So, yeah, we see that they are all, I mean, all the questions are, you know, we see this flashbook of Emily saying, everyone ask a question that you want to know about each woman. And what we're going to do is take a lie detector to ask and nobody has to do this so they don't want to. So, Jen's like, well, I mean, I can't take this evidence back to the women. They're going to think it's preposterous. Kitty's like, well, if you don't believe me, that's okay.

And to be fair, I just don't think this is strong enough. This is to say, it's too conspiratorial to say these are actors and Emily paid them to recite these lines. It's just, it's just not going to, even if it were true, it's just not, it's not going to convince these dumbdums. Yeah, I mean, it looked like a setup to me. I would just have, I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, say get the men involved at this point because Matt was there, Ryan was there, and Slade was there.

So I say get them involved because Matt's sitting there also insisting that he heard it multiple times. And then we have all the calls from Slade. So I say it's time to just bring everybody in and get the truth out. And note, by the way, this is jumping forward a little bit, but you know, people were taking screenshots of there's a scene that we're going to get to very shortly about how Matt's reading text from Slade. And all of Slade's text messages are blurred out. So does that mean that Slade did not give like Bravo the authority to show, the clearance to show

his texts, his texts. I don't know. Why would you have to give clearance if you've already given clearance that you're going to be on the show? Do they need clearance to show your text too? I don't know, but I think that's fishy. I think that's fishy. Yeah, that is. I think if it's, if it would be, if it

would be exonerating, I think you I think it's probably because they were talking about production because Matt said in an interview that he did this week, he went on Stu's podcast and he was saying that Slade said hey you know you're you better watch your wife because she's saying all this shit and production is pissed they don't want this stuff coming back up again and that's why Gretchen and Slate are lying about it because I don't want to get in trouble with production by bringing up naked wasted again because they want to pretend that

never happened so he's so that might be blurred out yeah so Slade is calling him telling him you know this because all this is piss and I've got Alex Baskin on the other line. right now, and he's extremely pissed off about this. So you keep your wife in line and tell her to lie about it. Which is exactly what we predicted was that it was not so much that Gretchen was afraid of, of lawsuits. It was that Gretchen was afraid of the wrath of Alex Baskin and Bravo. But that would make sense. Okay, so that makes sense why it be blurred out because production actually does not want to show that.

They don't want to, they don't want to break the fourth wall that much. Well, they don't want to make themselves look terrible. So then we see, so Jen's like, well, I'm trying to believe you. I mean, I'm sitting here listening to you. And so we see flashbacks of these questions. And then Katie's like, well, Gretchen told us the story about naked wasted. And then she said the next morning, I went to the hospital. They did a toxicology report and they found something in my blood.

She said that and I will die on that. She goes, no, she said she felt like she needed to go to the hospital. She's like, well, that's how she's twisting it. Jen, come on. I actually believe Katie here. I believe her. I believe, I believe Katie. I believe that this is an honest misunderstanding with Jen.

I believe there is room for the idea that Jen is not remembering at all. I cannot tell you how many little gaps in stories I don't remember anymore. Okay. Like, I would not be surprised if Jen was not fully paying attention. if Jen heard it, doesn't remember parts of it. And so her truth is that it was not said, but I don't know if that is the truth. No, I don't think that she's lying.

You think she's covering? Oh, I think she's straight up lying. Yeah, because I think at the dinner, they said it. And then when, first of all, this is kind of Katie's fault for going and running and telling a blogger. She shouldn't have done that, right, if you're at a private demo. Yeah, yes, Katie is totally culpable in this situation. Ultimately, Katie shouldn't have done that.

But I think that because she did that, and Gretchen, if Gretchen and if Gretchen and Slade, if Slade called the husband, Matt and said, don't do, don't say anything about this because production is pissed. We need to tow the line and say that Gretchen never said that to Jen too. And Jen is choosing to stay with production and Gretchen because Katie never should have run to a blogger in the first place. So I think in her mind, she's not doing the wrong thing because Katie never should have run and told stuff from dinner in the first place. So I think in her mind, Katie's still on the wrong. because she went to the blogger so she doesn't care she doesn't see it as this big huge lie but yeah i think that gretchen and slate said it and i think jen's lying because they agreed to lie and katie broke the pact by going to the blogger at the first place so i think that's how she's reconciling in her mind i was like again and i also drag me into this drama i didn't do this she's she did this to herself yeah i mean i don't know jenn could be lying i guess it's more like i could also see a world where she just doesn't remember because it's jenn Now, I will have to say, I'm just sort of like going back a few beats because I feel like getting mad at Gina and Emily again, and I just feel like it's, it's, I've gone five minutes without doing it, and I need to do it again.

So, the sequence of events, Tamara says this thing, Gretchen did not, Gretchen denies that she ever said it. Jen, I'm sorry, Katie denies that she ever told Kiki Monique that. So Katie does tow the line for a while. They're all towing the line. Tamara storms off, right? storms off and it's pretty much dead at that point right like at that point Tamara's the bad guy that the people who resurrected it remind me if I'm wrong because guess what I don't remember the full timeline which is proof that people don't remember things but the time after that it was it was it was Emily and Gina who reached out to Kiki to get to the bottom of it right oh no because

Gina called Gina called the reputable journalist right Gina went and continued looking this up. So Gina is the one who also, I think there's blood on Gina's hands because this was done and it was dead and Katie was being good friends. But Gina was determined to get to the bottom of this

and like for what to what end? The reason why is she's vindictive. Because Gina Emily had her head Katie, yeah, and they want to get her off. Exactly. And I think that's shitty actually. Yeah, it is, it is of course shitty. But she, but you know, Katie is still lying.

Katie is still saying that she didn't Katie is still lying, but Gina is the one who actually asked, I mean, just let me be mad at Gina, okay? Let me have a workaround here. Let me have a mental workaround. Gina contributed to the escalation of this is what I'm trying to say. Yes. Because I personally think really at the end of the day that Katie should not have said this to Kiki,

but I also think that Katie, I know we talked talked about this last week, like how, what was the intentionality behind this? And maybe we should ask Kiki this. I would not be surprised if. Katie brought this up because it was like, oh, well, this was the thing that happened, you know, 14 years ago. And like, isn't this funny? Isn't this crazy? Like, why would it's, it's shocking because Gretchen's coming on this show and like, I mean, Tamara's been awful to Gretchen all these years. I mean, she even tried to like drug her all those years ago. It's like a tiny thing that now gets brought back with such a huge outsized level of importance. And I think that Gina contributed to that because it could have been dead. And Juno decided to keep, keep sticking her nose in it and making it a whole thing. And then. to the level where it becomes a polygraph and now this woman's not even on the show anymore yeah so katy's like well jenn i sat there yesterday i looked at you and you were like don't look at me and she

goes well yeah because i mean you light fires and you just want to say jen knows jim was there and like you want to validate through me and katy and i i don't know what the fuck you're talking about you know and it took you know and she's basically saying you can't keep dragging me into your fucking drama over and over and expecting me to fight your battles like you started this shit i'm not doing it I'm not doing it. Sorry. And so she felt like she was thrown under the bus by Katie. So then we see a flashback to the hot pot.

We see all these examples of Katie doing this basically to Gina, where she's like, well, or to Jen, where she's like, Gina, Jen heard it, Jen heard it, Jen heard it. And Jen's like, oh, I'm not going to fight your fights for you. Stop dragging me into this shit. Yeah. So Jen, you know, Jen's like, sick of all this stuff. So Jen's like, you know, you hear things or you make things up. It doesn't validate it to be true because you throw my name into it.

Stop doing that. Please. And by the way, thank you so much for thinking of me in those moments. It's really an honor. But please stop doing it. So Katie is like, well, I mean, I don't know. Like, you want blood. I don't know what to give you.

I'm not lying. I am definitely not lying. I'm like, I don't know. Katie. I'm on your side. Don't get me wrong. Well, I believe about this. I believe her about this Slate and Gretchen thing. But Jen's like, well, I'm sitting here telling you it's messy around you. And you have to take accountability. And she goes, but I take accountability for when I'm wrong, but I'm not on this. I'm not guilty. And Jen just says, well, that tells me everything I need to know.

Goodbye. And so she's done with her. So. Yeah. I think it's, I believe her with the, I believe her with the Gretchen thing. I just want to clarify. It's more like, Like, Jen has lied so much in the past. It's like, it's just hard. Like, she just keeps on saying, I'm not lying. It's like, you've, you're really, I'm sorry, Katie. You really sort of like painted yourself. You've got the Ronnie disease.

You're just going to call everybody. Just calling everybody. I'm like, Kyle is such a liar, you guys. Ronnie, that shows not even back on the area. Okay. So Jen's like, I've been waiting for something to give me an answer. Like, where am I with this friendship? Like, why does this keep happening?

She doesn't stand there and say, I've been fucking lying. Trust me, when I tell you, I would have remembered if Tamara had drugged Gretchen and she went to the hospital. Katie lied to me the whole time and that just doesn't work for me anymore. But like, I don't know. I don't know, Jen. I just feel like Jen is, I don't know what Jen wants. Yeah, well, here's the thing that I think is confusing because Jen's not the brightest bulb on the tree, but we, we haven't caught Jen in a lie yet, right, that I've seen on the show or that I can remember on the show. I don't think we, I don't think anyone's really caught Jen lying.

No, no, she's just such a dummy. It's like, Ryan is also no angel, right? Like, we sense that Ryan has been up to a shifty business. And I think that Jen is, I don't know if she's always the best. I don't know, honestly, I don't even know. Well, I guess we have seen her lie because she was having an affair with Ryan. And she said that they weren't having an affair. And Tamara was like, but they were fucking in the parking lot.

And she's like, but that wasn't, I mean, we were a way to tell the divorce came through. So I guess we have. You're having a conversation in the car. Yeah. But I mean, the things that we think are a lie. But I guess that, you know, that wouldn't be in the group. That wouldn't be group dynamic lying or whatever. That would be like private life lying.

So I'm not sure if you would count that. So anyway, they're done. And Katie's crying. Jen leaves. And Katie's like, you can go, God, the white girl names on this show. like, sherry, but I'm just getting, I really, I whipped myself up into such a frenzy about that Gina rant I had about two minutes ago that I literally, I've been short-circuiting ever since. Like, I'm like, and then Jen, and then Jen said this. And I'm like, wait, what, what, what's my point?

Why am I? I'm like, now I'm angry at everything for no reason. I'm like, and then Jen, she picked up her coffee and I'm like, Jen, you don't even know how to pick up coffee. Like, wait, no, look, I'm doing it too, and I don't even have rage today. I'm just, it's just the utter brain melt of this show. It's like, she lied about this, but she didn't lie about that. And then that girl lied about this, but she may not be lying about this. And then Gretchen probably lied about that. Slate's definitely lying. But then Gretchen might not be lying.

Maybe Gretchen didn't hear, but Tamara's lying, but she's not lying about that. It's just so much trying to keep who's lying and who's not lying. And then they're running in shit from 13 years ago. And it's just, it's a brain melting fucking episode. So basically, Katie goes, okay, well, you should go. And she goes, okay, well, I mean, I guess keep me updated. and yes

I mean whatever the fuck that means they just yeah so that no one looks over to

at this point right so Gina goes over to Brit's house Brit is Matt's wife or girlfriend or whatever

and they basically like fake Kelly Dodd and Brit's like I almost wore a jean dress today

which is exciting and he's like oh my God we would have been like 20s which I think that would

be my nightmare in life is to find out that I was twinning with Gina. No kidding. I've got to burn my wardrobe. They are kind of 20s though because did you notice the word art? When the yes, they showed a close up of word art and I was like I guess we're at Gina's house, but

it turns out it was Brits' house. Does Matt only marry people with word art? Is it Matt's fetish at the end of the day? He's got like we need words. Words everywhere. He actually is like lost in a kitchen. he needs he needs he doesn't understand rooms so he needs to have signs that say kitchen and

and i think this one was intense it was like bless this home the home of mac and cheese the home of children with smiles flowers and the sunshine toast us and toast it's like could you make a shorter word art i don't have nine hours to stand here before i walk into your home and read this fuck is yeah let's be relaxed shell silver scene okay so um uh so britt is britt's off you offers drinks and everything, like coffee and all that stuff. And, um, so Gina's saying, like, my relationship with Brit is, like, amazing. Like, I really feel like, like, we parent together and it, like, allows me to have, like, a career and chase dreams. So finally, at long last because of Brit, I'm able to chase my dream of selling two-bedroom houses to old people.

Finally, I'm living. Like, it's proof that we have, like, an amazing relationship. Let me show you some TikToks we've been. And so we'd see TikToks of them dragging each other across the floor. I'm not really sure with that. What that subgenre is on TikTok, but, you know, whatever. So things that I wouldn't be able to do without four parents fully committed. So then Gina is talking about how things happened with Matt guys.

Matt had a heart attack. Dun, dun dun, done. Pretty shocking. So he had a heart attack. And Gina is like, we see a flashback to her having dinners, like having drinks with Shannon and Heather. And she's like, you guys, I went straight from New Orleans to Cabo and then the next morning had a heart attack. And they're like, oh, that is so crazy, maybe almost as crazy as Terry having a stroke and driving angrily through Beverly Hills. I guess I kind of did the spousal scary thing first, didn't I?

And mine was more wealthy because mine involved a lot. luxury car. Heather made me laugh with almost every line she said in this episode because she's just so ridiculous. I think she's just so happy to not be in any drama. She's just like, look at me. Fun Heather, reacting to things. And she's never reacting the right way.

Gina goes, Matt had a heart attack. And Heather goes, that is so crazy. She could have just heard like, you guys, I found a half off prize a deal on a burkin, you know? Wow, crazy. So, Gina's like, I just can't imagine, Britt, like, if you didn't take

the hospital, like, you saved his life, Brit. Like, if you didn't do that, like, he would be, like, literally dead right now. Brit's like, like, he would be, like, gone, like, the guy that you live with, that you love, you'd be gone, not even there. I'm like, can you just, like, ease up there a little bit, Gina. Like, I think Britt understands what would have happened. She's sitting her in a puddle of tears. And Gina's like, I mean, he would have died, Gia. He would have died, Britt. So, um, yeah, like, literally, like, I was thinking of me at dying. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, I might have to have a conversation with my kids about their dad dying. And you saved me from having to do that.

I live with Gina's selfish ass. It's like, thank you so much for saving me from having to have a conversation with my kids about their dad being dead. So, Gina. You know, Brit, like, Beastmo down to the hospital, and, like, they had to get, like, a stint in his heart because it was, like, a hundred percent collapsed. And it was so nice because the hospital wrote on the stint, Stent.

So it was so nice. He loves a word. Now he has word out in his heart, literally. And he was having, like, a full-blown heart attack. And as soon as they got the stint in, like, the danger wore down, it was, like, a good wake-up call. And he needs to be healthy. Which is, by the way, really scary.

And I was, like, feeling my heart. I was like, am I safe? Um, so then Gina is saying like, this is what you realize, but this stand is sort of like Katie's time on the houselines. It was a stint. Um, she left this is what I said. Oh, I think he said what is a stint. No, it's like the word art on his stint. Bless this stint. So this is like where you realize like having like a functional family like that comes into playing. Like if there was any bullshit between any of that, that would. have been the same thing. Like, this crisis was so eye-opening to me because, like, it could be more opposite with Travis and his ex. You know what I mean? Like, if he had a heart attack, no, it would take him to the hospital. You know what I mean? So Matt walks in and Gina, Gina's saying that this really

lights a fire under her to get Travis to his divorce so she can marry him and, like, take care of the kids in case something were to happen to him. And then Gina's like, nah, I got you again. He's like, really? Is this for me? He's like, yeah, I got like real, like, I'm real sweet after, like, I get real sweet after, like, life-threatening a situation. So, like, look like, look at like, want you. So he, she's given him, like, a care package of, like, a Mediterranean cookbook, a Mediterranean diet cookbook and, like, some aspirin. And, uh, he's like, great. Thanks. Thanks. Like, I was hoping for a fun care package. But thanks for reminding me of the rest of my life now. Yeah. So then Hamra, Hamra. That's Heather and Tamra's. couple name, Hamra. Heather and Tamara meet up at a restaurant. And they're talking about what the hell happened at the lie detector test. Tamara's like, I couldn't even sleep last night. I'm like what the hell happened. I'm like what the hell happened. So much happened. And you know what I was thinking? And Heather's like, well, I've really tried with Katie this year. Really? Look at how good I've been to

Katie. Do you remember that time I sat down with Katie to try and get information to use to hold against her later. That was just so good of me to do. I've really tried with her, but I just can't do it anymore. I offered her a job as a housekeeper, and she did not take it. So I like that Tamara said that she couldn't sleep last night because she was on a high from adrenaline, which is so Tamara to see someone like run off of a show and like, she's like, best night of the year. Like that's like what she lives for is someone like being the victim of a gang up like that that speaks to tamara's villainy right there so um heather uh heather is she's uh sorry jenn arrives and she's like hi everyone i brought stuff i brought stuff oh do we need a cocktail for this because it's just me

with my girlfriends okay we can get cosmos okay what who here is the carry who is this Samantha I'll be the blanche like okay Heather like stop trying to be so the fun Heather right now, fun girlfriend Heather. Let's order something fun. I'm going to have a paloma, paloma, exotic, fine, fruity. You mean like a tequila, a tequila with grapefruit? No, Paloma is the name of one of my cleaners, and I was hoping to have a second one. Can we hire another Paloma for the house?

No, okay. She actually messed up on the laundry, so I was hoping you could pick her up and blend her down so I could drink her DNA. So they order their cocktails and everything. Well, actually, Jen asks about the strawberry margarita and, like, the waitress is like, it's delicious. And Heather's like, has anyone ever asked you something? And you say, don't get that. God, I'm so fun.

Look at me interfacing with service workers in a pleasant way. I have grown. If you want to see fun, Heather, let me call out a service worker for being the fake bitch that she is. Um, and so, uh, yeah, so she has, uh... You guys get there? Cause we had a polygraph test. That time. She failed it.

Come back. Thank you so much. So I met with Katie and right when she sat down, she was like, that whole thing was staged. What? The polygraph was a setup? What? Yeah. And she's being set up.

And she's the one that we're all, we're all picking to, to do this too. That they're, okay, those people were not for entertainment. Trust me, if they ever tried to get onto TV land, they would not get through the front door. Those are not entertainment people. So the polygraph people work on TV. Well, guess what? My husband is a world-renowned TV doctor in real life.

So do you want to take pictures and put him in your file? Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Oh, okay. Okay, so you're saying the polygraph person is super, real, then what about you lying about paparazzi shots? Because he also said that. Or we're just going to forget all your lies,

madam. Yes, we will. Don't you understand. Okay. So the polygraph people work on TV. They can't be trusted. Well, last time I checked, I was on an episode of Malibu Country with Reba McIntyre. Does that mean you can't trust me? Television's

Heather DeBrow? I think not. Oh, that was good adjudication. So Tamara's like, well, I don't know what, I don't know anything about that. I've never met these people before. So Jen was saying how this whole thing was like sort of, it was like a weird interaction. And Tam was like, did you say I'm done? Did she quit? Did you run off?

God, I wish I could have seen it. Oh, my God. My heart's racing so fast right now. I mean, personally, I wish we'd brought in a gay psychic to reveal this information. But whatever, different roles, it's different places. It's my lack of. So, Jen's like, yeah, you know, I just. I don't want to see her and talk about her the whole time.

I just want to have a conversation. And I'm glad that you're here because last time she and I sat down, like, yeah, it didn't work out. It didn't work out. So then we see Jen and Tamara fighting at the restaurant. And Jen being like, you're fucking sick. How dare you call me fucking sick? I could be autistic.

So back to the present. Jen's like, yeah, I guess maybe I placed more of a value on our friendship. And I would just feel embarrassed that I ever placed value on that friendship. Yeah, don't say that. Like, we had some good times. You had really good times. Like, remember the time when I accused your husband of, like, having an affair? Remember the time I called the FBI and your husband? And remember the time I tried to, like, get everyone against you, like, a few different seasons in a row? Remember the time I called the Private Investigator and your husband? We had so many good times the other, Jen. Yeah, remember when I told everybody that your husband, that your boyfriend wanted to fuck me instead? Yeah, they're so good. We've had some good times together. Come on.

Come much with guys. So good. So now, Tamara's like, okay, well, let me just say, I admit, did I fuck up? I'm so sorry, she and what happened? Okay, can everybody listen? Placing violence or something.

Tammy's about to open up. Okay. Remember what I said to bed right? That was a real aha moment for me. It was aha. It was so aha. Hey, guys, that was so aha. That was nine o' hours out of ten o'is and ahas.

I think I have that bitch. You know what? I started therapy and I'm deep diving this shit. I don't even want to talk about it, but I will talk about that I'm doing it. And that little girl in me that just gets upset. It's the girl that fucking lashes out. I got a little girl in me.

Her name is Tammy Sue. And she's got hair in the shape of thimble. And she gets mad at people and I'm mad now. But I'm working on it, babe. I'm working on it. But you'll do this. And then two weeks later, you know, you get back into a corner and you're like, you're like a fucking aggressor, you know?

Oh, are we going to go backwards? I feel like this is going backwards. Rewind to that waitress lying about strawberry margaritas. Let's do that. All right. Knife and Paloma's back. Anybody? We are going back.

But I'm just saying, like, you know, you guys start changing the pattern because people don't like, you know, it's almost like crying wolf, you know? Yeah. Things don't go to sleep when you don't really care about somebody and then you care about you. Which is like the classic thing that, like, awful. people on reality TV do. They're mean, mean, a mean, a mean, and then they're like, I only like this word because I care. Because if I didn't care, I'd just be indifferent. I care about you so much. The angry I am at you means the more I care about you. You just make me so angry sometimes. Don't make me so angry. Yeah. And by the way, you know who else cries,

wolves? Little girls. Little girls stuck inside a possum face. That's what they do. They cry. I won't No, my god, he's the wolf. And sometimes there's a wolf, and you're the wolf, bitch. I'll get she, bitch. So, Jen has decided to forgive her again. You know, Tamara, who's done all of this stuff, but can't forgive Katie for... Yeah, exactly. Well, this is...

This episode is definitely the producer is trying to be like, no, America, don't worry. Nothing's toxic here. Look, everyone's getting long. Everyone's happy. Everyone's fine. We just ran Katie off the show, but it's fine. Everyone loves each other now. Yeah.

So, Jen's decided to support Tamara and her journey, her journey of therapy. So just thank you for going there. Thank you so much, Tamara. And they agreed to not do it anymore. And they kiss on the lips. And Tamara's like, I love you, June. I love you so much. We're like sisters.

I'm so glad you're happy. I'm so happy. I'm with such good friends now. I'm just like sisters. It's separated to the pet right. And then Heather, they're like sort of hugging or like clasping each other's like elbows and Heather takes like a selfie with them in the background. I'm going to send this to Drake, my neighbor.

But we'll save these for later to see how it ends up. So then... This is almost as believable as that strawberry margarita tasting decent. Does anyone know where Paloma is? She's due at the house at 4 p.m. Hello there. This is a two-part recap. Okay?

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