Watch What Crappens - #2991 RHOC S19E09 Part 2: Katie-Sixed

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

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It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. Now we go to a place called Fleur de Lee because of course there's a place called Fleur de Lee, aka Gretchen's favorite thing to put on her wall. And Emily... There's not a stitch of Fleurteley in this place, by the way.

Not a stitch. This place is so tacky. And they walk in and Emily picks up what looks like something's like a bigger splatted against a wall and she goes oh this is nice like oh god there's no tackier show on bravo there really it really is like literally every place they go is so tacky on this show and having this on the same night as miami where they just keep on going to like glamorous locales like one after the next and you have this show it's just it's really hard and like the good news is that you leave this show and go to the world of miami but the bad news is

that I watch the screeners in reverse order. I watch Miami first. So to go from the luxe colorful world of Miami to now flirtily of like Luguna Beach, I'm like, oh, this is really hard. So, um, so Emily walks in and then Shannon comes in and then they like pretend to hide from each other. They're like looking each other through like a bookcase. Like, isn't this funny?

It's a bookcase, but we can see each other. But we're acting like we can see each other. God, I love having good girlfriends, not toxic over here. So Gina's like, oh my God. Like, what are we like shopping for? I mean, I can, like, always shop, okay? And Emily's like, I don't know, fun stuff. Let's get fun stuff.

That's why we're at Flordalee, home of fun stuff. Wacky, wacky times. Oh, well, I think I found a pillow for Emily. Look at this pillow. It says, it says, not tonight. Ah, ha, ha. I guess I'll give this to Earl, so that way he can tell me if tonight's the night that he's going to be trying vegetables.

And I'm just like, oh, yeah, I need that. Shopkeep, do you have one of these pillows that says none of these men will be intimate with me? Well, this was more fun when it was about you. Do you have a pillow that on the front side says David? And then the backside says, David. Okay, no, that's fine. What does the other side say? The other side says tonight.

The side's never going to see the sun, though. It's always going to say, not tonight. Well, we're so wacky. Oh, my God. Hey, I'm giving me so much fun. So Emily's like, well, let's like it. I found something in this not tonight, pillow. Hold on.

It's a subway sandwich. It's hilarious. Oh, by the way. Um, if not tonight is supposed to reference me being an awful person, guess what? That's tonight. Because guess what? I have to tell you, because it's, It's on my mind, but Jen called me.

So we see Jen, a flashback of Jen, calling Emily and saying that Katie said that the polygraph people were paid actors. You know what, Jen, I get you not, if you don't want to be dragged into Katie's, whatever, that's fine. But going from your best friend on the show to immediately turning around and calling everyone on the cast and me, I think, well, here's what Katie said. And Katie, nah, nah, nah, and Katie's accusing you guys. You're coming across as a real dick, Jen. And I'm actually surprised because I like Jen. Well, if you don't want to be in the middle of it, then don't be in the middle of it. Yeah, and stop calling everybody and putting yourself in the middle of it and staying in the middle of it, you ding-dong.

Middle, middle-bary, that's what you are. I thought you were a better friend than this. You're choosing Gretchen over Katie. Hey, Jen, did you go to Middlebury College? Because as far as I can tell, you're in the middle. And you kind of look like a berry. So there. So Emily is like, she thinks it's a little.

like a setup like i planned all this that i had time on my hands i mean you literally put robes up like you put like blind like you put curtains up and set up two different polygraph rooms you and also set up a and through a whole person new year's department you had the time you had the time i'm sorry i'm sorry you had to put your supreme court case to the side that you were trying but yeah i think you had the time here also in the interview that matt did with uh stew he said uh oh please Emily's like a mall cop lawyer. Mall cop lawyers need representation to Innocence project.

And so Gina's like, I mean, well, you know who would think that is like somebody who sets people up? Okay, I don't think Katie was setting people up. I don't think Katie's Machiavellian like that. So Emily's like, well, by the way, the person who set up Katie was you, Gina, last year when you told Katie to bring up the Heather stuff on camera and then you totally backed off of it and was like, well, you got to confront Heather otherwise all I have to.

So you're the setter-upper. You also set her up by calling Kikung Monique to come all the way to Mozambique so you could have this discussion about something that had nothing to fucking do with you and then helped Emily with her stupid lie detector test party. Give me a fucking break with the setup. And also, you know who else says that they were set up?

People who were set up, you dummy. Yeah. you dummy and by the way next time why don't you go to kiki monique why'd you drag her all the way down to mozambique you should go up to hollywood geez go to 13 like a real like a real lady would so um so then we go to um more flashbacks okay so we're back to the present emily's like it just it wasn't a setup okay just told the fucking truth and you pass um but like you guys all failed your polygraph test in some way for the question unfortunately literally and she lied So there you go.

So then- She lied in her life test, not her polygraph. So Emily gets a ding and she's like, oh, hi, Luke. And he's like, Mama, let me TikTok go on a walk. And she's like, that's not home. When he gets back, you can ask him.

And he says, no, I'm doing it now. It's like, no, Luke. Oh, my God, he just like up on me. I can't believe he's doing this. He's trying to take the dog on a walk. What does this mean about Luke? He refused to listen to dogs on a walk. My son is taking the dog on a walk.

Do you know how difficult is this? I can't with Kate. I came out with Emily. Just can't. I'm sorry. He refuses to go to school and I'm like, I'm sorry. Like, I don't know what to do. I'm like, what am I supposed to do to stay home all day and not go to Florida Lee?

Just stop answering the phone. If you notice your kid to get a call every two seconds, just stop. I know you probably should answer the phone, but just don't. It's an emergency. tell the kid how to leave a voicemail. So Emily's like, Luke is very attached to me. And if I leave that house,

he gets so upset. And then I feel like I should just leave and go be with him. And then I think, is that the best thing for him for me to just never do anything else of him? You wonder why he talks like a baby? Maybe you should stop babying him.

Okay. Drop him off. Make him go to school. Bye. See you later. Sucker. Seriously. Or if he's not higher

or really stern tutor or something to be there at the house and make him do his. work anyway. I mean, he's, he's taking off, listen, I used to do it all the time. I would be like, I'm sick, mommy, I just wanted me with you. I did it all the time. So maybe that's, maybe

it's me projecting a little bit of my stuff onto this, but I'm like, come on, stop crying because your son would rather not. You know who else would rather not go to school to hang out at home all day? Every kid. Everyone. Every kid. Just grab him, put them in the

are um yeah drop him drop him drop him kick him into the school i understand parenting is complicated and especially if he is on the spectrum there's like added you know there's added things to that but also it sounds like your baby and your kid and then you're like he talks like a baby he's very attached to me why does that happen it's like because from everything you've told us it sounds like you're babying him so you know yeah you know we've got don't do that we've gotten we've gotten some messages from people with autistic children or children on the spectrum and stuff like that. I'm not even commenting on that. I have no idea medically what's going on with a kid. Emily doesn't know yet either, you know, like her, she doesn't know yet. So that's all still

up in the air. So I'm not like making fun of that or saying, here's how to deal with an autistic child or anything like that. I'm solely commenting on Emily's behavior. To me, Emily's behavior is just so overdramatic. She's always crying about something. something. She's always turning something into some huge deal for TV. And from what we've just seen, the kid wants to take the dog for a walk. Like, I can't. I can't with you, Emily. Like, I'm not going to sit here and cry in a store of your kid wanting to take the dog for a walk. Do you know how many parents are begging their kids to take the dog for a walk? Yeah. Either way, it sounds like a difficult situation. So Emily is like, I just don't know how to help him. I'm so lost. And she just like, I know. Like, we are Shane right now. So I guess Shane had to go pick up Annabelle. And he couldn't take Luke because Luke refused to go along as well. So Emily, and then he starts to FaceTime again.

And she's like, Luke, can you please just chill for a minute till Dad gets home? Okay. I don't know what to fucking do. Listen, you say, Luke, if you fucking call me one more time, I am going to put on some Kenny G very loudly. And that's all you're going to hear at home for the next seven days until you will go to school. Kenny G. The old, the old Kenny G.

Be careful. Be careful what you do because that kid could grow out his hair, start perming it and like learning to play the electric flute or whatever the fuck that guy played. But it'd be so bad. So wrong. So wrong with that. It's not a terrible,

not a terrible fate for the kid. So Emily is talking about how hard it is on her marriage because she wants to pair it in one way and Shane wants to pair in another way and they're going to get to forced over it. And, you know, it's all of their, all of their energy is,

spent on Luke and Luke's need and they're basically just roommates living on this house navigating these kids. And do you know what we call that? Some of us call that parenting. But she's like, there's no joy on this. There is no joy on this. He won't eat a sweet potato. Here's what I don't, here's what I did not love about this moment was when she said like, we're getting to a point where we're going to end up divorced because I don't know how to parent Luke. He doesn't know how to parent Luke and then we fight each other if this kid sees this and if they do divorce it's gonna be met that's not gonna be good because the whole thing is that right like in divorce you don't want the kids to feel like it's their fault and she's literally on TV saying like

yeah we're gonna divorce because we don't know how to deal with this kid this kid this kid I want to do the kid this way he wants to get this way and we don't know what to do with Luke so we're going to get divorced I mean like this is not good to have on on the permanent record I would have yeah I agree with you I think that that's a good point and that's my problem with Emily. It's the way she's navigating this whole thing with her kid. Whatever is going on with her kid, how Emily is handling it on TV is really, really bad for this kid's future. And, you know, you can make the argument for a lot of other housewives and how they've dealt with kid issues and stuff on this show. And I mean, I guess you could take that

case by case, but in this case, it's Emily and she sucks at it. It's really hard to watch. I mean, I actually respect the transparency of it all. Like, she is struggling with her kids. And I do want authentic things on this show. And I think that isn't an authentic true pressure that she's feeling. And I think it is hard. Like all snark aside, I think it's like she's in a very hard situation. Because for whatever, for whatever, whatever led to this point in their relationship with their child, like, that's just where they are now and they're trying to deal with it. And so I enjoy the transparency of all, of it all and getting a peek into her personal struggles of what she's dealing with versus like, like, oh, I've got like a sandwich in my purse. But

that being said, like, it's one of those tough things where it's like, I want authenticity, but then you cringe that, like, but what damage she might be doing in the long run to her child, if any. So then we go over to Katie and Matt and, oh, by the way, the ladies are crying in the store. Shannon's like, honey, honey, come here. Can we just get a pillow that says, go to school? Let's get that. We can go to Katie and Matt's house. By the way, by the way, put the dog, put the dog in the car and next time Luke wants to walk the dog you just trick and he goes into the car like aha guess what now you're going to help me pick up Annabel congratulations Luke you just use the tools use the tools that you have use that dog to your advantage I just didn't have that many

options as a kid it was like Ronnie you're gonna stay home I have to leave I'm not leaving you alone we're getting your sister from school I didn't get to be like no I don't want to and then do whatever I want yeah same I got a fly swatter to the head and shoved in the back of the car okay There was no option. I don't get this like, you know, I don't get it. It's not like the please, please will you get in the car? It was never, there was, there was not a single please ever. There was no, it was get in the car, you know?

I mean, I was a good kid. So usually they didn't have to say things like my parents didn't have to say things. But like, you know, there was no option. It's just like your parents told you what to do and you did it. And yeah, I mean, I didn't, but there were wars over it. It was never just like, do whatever you want, Ronnie, sure. So at Katie's house, she is sitting with Matt and they're talking about what a cluster fuck this all is. And I kind of feel for Matt because he's just like, oh, hi, my wife's home.

And she's like, here's what's going on with the ladies. And you just see him like dying inside. He's like, oh, Jesus. So he's like, what is happening with Jen and Ryan pretending like they didn't hear it? You know, like, do you know how many three-way calls I've been on with Ryan and Slade talking about what they told us at dinner? I mean, look at the amount of calls. So he shows his phone and he shows multiple calls from My Spicy Asian with a little chili pepper thing on it. And apparently Katie entered her name as My Spicy Asian on his phone.

She said on X, Twitter, Twitrix. And he's and then we see some, we see a call from Slade. Hold on, let me see. I screenshot it. So I could. Someone online. screenshot it also that like also that like Slade's texts were like in case people were wondering about the authenticity of what Matt was saying it was like clearly clearly Slade had sent

Matt Tamara's IG story saying that she'd quit the show so like definitely Slade was talking about Tamara in case there was any of those calls thing so Slade called Matt Matt calls Slade and then Matt calls it back and then talks to Katie a couple of times and then calls Slade another couple of times and then Slade, there's a missed call from Slade. So I don't know what the damning thing is, except that the guys have been talking, you know, about it. Like, it was enough that, like,

enough that, like, people needed to get on the phone and have discussions, like, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a fury. And, uh, like, that does not seem like, someone would be like, whatever. This is, this is, this is, this is like, don't we deal. Like, like, I think you have those big conversations if there's, like,

a cover up. If it's like, what, no, like, like, Like, Gretchen never said that. Then it's like, oh, okay. I'm like, whatever. It's just stupid Tamara. She's just trying to stir up shit. But the fact that there's all this conversation, to me, this is a smoke and fire situation.

And Matt's like, well, 43 minutes on March 10th. I mean, just shooting the shit with Slade. Really? Like, who wants it with Slade for? How long can I talk about his crooked penis for? Yeah. And he says, you don't think he's trying to manipulate this? I mean, 911, he puts on the phone.

He essentially said Gretchen is going to deny it. And Katie needs to hold the line and stay with Gretchen. And I said, I got a hold of Katie. I told her what you told me. And she'll stay with Gretchen. So that he originally agreed to go on the plan, going on this plan. So Katie's like, yeah, Slade alerted Matt and Ryan about this whole naked wasted situation while we were in New Orleans. And I think he was trying to cover his tracks.

And he thought by telling Ryan and Matt, he would control Jen and I. So, God, shows my brain scrambled. So Matt's like, yeah. And whenever I've hung out with Slade, it's always him telling us. how we started housewives and someone sent me a clip where he talks about oh if joe's not on then i'm not on and then um we see a flashback from the reunion in 2016 with andy going slate can you understand why some people think you're a media whore and he's like no i mean you should remember that after the second season i made the decision not to continue on the housewives i made that decision he's like uh

well joe wasn't a housewife anymore so there was no place for you on the show and slate's like Correct. Got such a douchebag. I think Slate, I guess is Slade trying to imply that it was like he told Joe not to go back or something like that? Like, I don't know. Like, he is so stupid.

Like, no, he was his, like he was the main cast member and it was his decision not to come back on the show. He's so ridiculous. And we know this is true because when we met Slade 10 years ago, this is exactly what he was telling us as well. Oh,

I created the housewives. And, you know, this was all my ideas. idea and he even told me you know I mean if it wasn't for me you guys wouldn't even have a job really what would you be talking about I mean I started this whole thing like oh okay okay yes slade did sure it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappance commercial it's your man Nick Cannon I'm here to bring you my new podcast Nick Cannon at night I've heard y'all been needing some advice in the love department so who better to help than yours true No, I'm serious. Every week I'm bringing out some of my celebrity friends and the best experts in the business

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stories over and over and over and over again and katy's like yeah let's make you hate the person that we hate yeah they're out to bury tamra right And like, and then Jen just left you out to dry. Yes. And that's honestly the most hurtful part of all this is my dear friend is like, I didn't hear it. And neither did Ryan. And Matt's like, they were there.

She's like, I just miss Jen. I know it's stupid. Jen, that is. She's very stupid. I know she's stupid. But I just do. I do. It feels stupid missing someone so stupid.

But call me a stupid person. I miss her. I miss her. And she's like, I just don't know. I didn't do anything to Jen. Why would she do this to me? I just can't figure it out. Because you keep trying to drag her.

into drama and she doesn't want the drama she doesn't want your drama you know yeah katy ultimately it was we've said it a million times ultimately this is on you for going and telling a blogger in the first place or a podcast or i don't know what you keep calling her a blogger on the show but there is a fable there is a moral to this story i mean it is boy who cried wolf which is that like again there's a few times earlier this season where katy was caught in stupid lies that were inconsequential but enough so that now when there's something big like this that happens she just doesn't have credibility. And that's, that's kind of on her. Again, I'm team Katie, but like she's, she's saying like I lied, but I only lied because they told me to lie, but now I'm not lying,

but I, but I am kind of lying because I didn't tell Kiki men like the other thing. It's too many things of like, I'm lying, but I'm not lying, but I am lying, but I'm, but I wasn't lying but I, but I'm lying now, but I was lying now, but I was like, oh, well, I was recording Usham, but I only show this, but I didn't say it, but I, yes, I did do this or it's too much. So then we go to Jen and her sons are coming to Beach Day, which is, I still find it so funny that she named her son Dawson. I don't know why. I just think it's so funny that Jen's like, I really love that guy. It was just so nice to Felicity. Yeah, she probably did name him Dawson from that show. Of course. Yeah. Is Dawson even a name that people name people other than that? I don't think I've

ever known another dawson i'm thinking if i know any dawson i don't know any dawson's but you know to be fair this is also the same show that gives us chanel who's heather's friend spelled s h a n e i'm i'm shocked that heather is friends with someone who misspelled chanel this is chanelle she's the canal canal street version of chanelle because she's spelled with an s i thought you'd get along with gina pretty much so they all they're all they're all gathering and guess who tamera has brought she's brought joe so joe is back again tamera's really trying to do the you weaponize joe and it's not totally it's sort of working not really though not to the effect that she wants yeah especially because the first time gretchen saw joe she went up

and gave her a hug and told her hi so it's like it doesn't seem to be working but it's working better today because gretchen sees joe she's like oh why would she do that again and then just kind gives her the cold shoulder yeah yeah so um and timers like whatever whoever my fans are i'm a friend's i'm not sure to please gretchen rassie so um they're all gathering and um they all are going to go play some some volleyball the yeah jen's like my son's are here they're going to show it they're going to show us how to play volleyball okay well while they're teaching us volleyball how about we teach them and not to sign hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans for each other because their parents are in income poops okay about that's a good let's share

some knowledge those poor kids i was like run dawson run away um so then chanan's like well i am just gonna grab a piece of cheese instead of playing sports okay okay okay i'll play i'll play so it's volleyball and it's fun times and they're all they're all doing it they're all talking about like i'm sporty spice i'm posh spice i am posh spice okay how hilarious I'm just your best friend, Heather DeBro, Bosch, Spice. So, Emily, was Emily's big joke in here? I forgot. She's like, I'll tell you, what is it?

Disheveled Spice. Shannon is disheveled Spice. Please get Emily off this show. I don't know how many times I need to beg you fucking people. Get her off. Get her off of this show. It's done. I can't take it.

So then they all sit down and then Jen has provided them all gifts and they all open up their boxes. And it's like supermarket croissants, like the small size ones too, mini croissants. And she goes, well, I'm on a budget. And Gretchen just goes, what's the point of this? Because they don't even know what to do with the croissant. I love that you're responsible. I love it. So Heather is like, okay, everyone, something really cool happened.

I went to a bakery and had a full-size croissant, much better than this one. So I just want to say, I've been out in the world. Thank you, everyone. Thank you so much. Thank you. Well, I did order it and stare at it. And then I left it alone. So that was fun.

But it's a huge, go ahead, Ben. I was going to say, I loved this story that Heather had to say because it had a twist that somehow, well, I'll explain. Everyone, Catarina, Katarina got into so many schools. She got into Emerson, she got into Chapman, she got into UT Austin, but what her dream school,

the school that was so hard for her to get into, was USC. Shannon, did you hear that? USC. She really wanted to get into USC. And she said, oh, USC, oh, well, I have no pole. It's a very exclusive school. It's very, very difficult to get into, so good luck. Well, she got into Yale and she's going to yell instead.

I love that because it was like puffing up Shannon to be like, your school is the amazing school, the Grail school that we all want to get our children into. And then Shannon gets all excited and is like, oh, yes, USC. And Heather's like, I'm going to one up you now. Yeah, sorry. Ha ha ha. Well, actually what kind of cracked me up is that Shannon's attitude when she said that, cracked me out because she goes you know what her dream school is USC and standing goes i have no pull

like don't even fucking ask me i'm not going to the bat for your fucking daughter do bro okay i still have your monologue running through my head every single night before i go to sleep if you ever come for me or my family she's like i've got no poll please don't ask me and she's like don't need it she's going somewhere better yeah oh she's not going to be going to university of spoiled children, that's still a good one, bitch. Shut up, Pelley, Dodge. You're also running in my head every night before I go to say, God, I hate that woman.

It's also, by the way, it's such a strange, like, selection of colleges to choose from. Like Chapman, Yale, UT Austin, it's no shade to any of the schools, but it just, it's sort of, like, all over the map in terms of, like, different types of schools and different tiers of schools. I just, I don't think that there was ever any serious consideration about those other schools.

I think it was always gonna be Yale, and I think Heather wanted to, like, seem like a little humble. And I just, I just love the rope-a-dope on Shannon on this one because it's like, I just feel like she lifted Shannon up into thinking like her school was like the one. It was the reach, it was so hard, it was out of place. And it was just like, oh, no, but she got into a much, much, much harder school.

So yeah, I'm living your school behind the dust. Am I surprised that Cat got into Yale? Absolutely not. Cat is just one of those kids who are, all better than Shannon's kids. And am I sad that she's going across the country? Of course. Am I glad that she's going to be away from the influence of Shannon?

Of course. But, you know, I'm thrilled for her. And I'm thrilled that Shannon got to go to her lesser school all those years ago. And I'm so happy for the kids that do get to go to USC, whether through their own merits or through the Felicity Huffman style of getting into USC. I'm happy for them. But Mike, it's going to yell. Well, I'm going to say, I got some good news, too.

Sophia's got a first boyfriend. I think he ate somebody. It wasn't the lyrics of the song she wrote. Oh, and did he go to yell? I'm sorry, I'm still in my yell moment here, and you're trying to one up it with a boyfriend. And my daughter got into a world-class institution, but that's okay. I'm sorry, I said Yale, not yell, okay?

well um if i could uh tail end on that uh sophie met a guy and she really started to fall for him and last night he ended it and she was in tears so she flew i'm like shy why are you crying over sophie's like fling she's sitting here crying and she's like so she flew in for the weekend and she's going to come here pretty soon so i'm excited for you to see her um really really excited for you to see her because I think, as we all know, nothing makes us feel better than seeing the youth of America be heartbroken. Oh, I'm so glad to put a tail end button on this flood of good news about our children. Sophie got dumped. So that's been really rough on both of us. Oh, sort of the way USC got dumped by Katerina when she chose Yale, a better option. Right,

Shannon? This was so good. She's like, so Sophie just got dumped. And Heather goes, oh, this is a good news, Friday. And they're like, Heather, Jesus. And she goes, no, I mean, it's good news that she's coming to visit her mom. That's what I meant. Everything Heather says today. You're like, what the fuck is going on with Heather? Well, this is good news. This is good news. Two broken hearts come together and become one full heart. That's great news. Or they're just two broken hearts all and just two heart pieces on the floor. Either way, my daughter's going to yell. I'm so happy to hear someone from an inferior school was heartbroken. Katerina will know that she made the right decision.

She'll know. Well, I'm sure Sophie has many more beautiful options from the men that she met when she was going to Princeton, for instance. No, she went to, I think, she went to a school in Texas. Oh, oh, sorry. I guess it's my daughter who's going to an Ivy League school. Not yours. Apologies. I'm sorry.

I was thinking of Ivy League. Sophie's more bowling league. Okay, let's get to that. Was he a bowler? Was this guy a bowler? Oh, sorry, Shannon. Ivy League is not a nursing school league where they teach you how to put in ivies.

Sorry. Sorry. I know that some of your other children here are on that path. So Tamara's like, oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I get that break up. That's good news, huh? And she goes, good news Friday.

Say something good. Okay, Shannon's miserable as usual. So who else has something else? And then he's like, oh, Shane's dad came home from the hospital. That was good. We pulled the lie detector test on him. Turns out he was lying about being sick in the first place. Motherfogre!

I made him eat eight figs. Oh, he had a severe liver infection, but he's doing well and he's coming home today. And then... He was so happy I gathered the whole family. Emily did a strip tease for him. I will never forget Emily's first season of like, Shane doesn't find me sexually attractive, so I'm going to do

a striptease school for his father in Las Vegas. For the fuck that thing was. Well, no, because she was going to do a strip tease for Shane, but then Shane backed out, but his parents went instead. So she did it for her father-in-law and her mother-in-law. Oh, God. She should have been gone after that. Let's be honest.

Whatever. So Emily's like, I have not seen Shane cry many times in our 16-year-old. relationship. But as dad being, you know, and dealing with Luke and Luke's needs, it was just way too much at one time for us. So for his dad to come home, it makes me happy. It's a win. You know, it would be a really good, good news Friday. The new cast for season 19 of this show, season 20 of the show, and Emily's not in it. That's good news Friday. Yeah, replaced her with Perry. That's what I say. So she was like, okay, I'm not going to know.

Siena Rawls did a character count award this morning for being the kindest little girl in a clearance. So that was nice. She showed up and gave everybody aspirin and a Mediterranean cookbuzz. We're really having diminishing returns on this Good News Friday. I'm not going to lie.

Like, I guess coming home from the hospital, that's good news. But I think, I just, I just want, we need to work on those good news. I'm just like your daughter getting kindest little girl in her class. That's nice, I guess, but do you personally have good news in your life, like not your daughter's life? So Joe's like, well, my husband and I, Terran, have officially decided to try and have a baby. Forty-four and trying, here we go. Oh, great. So I guess

in about 20 years or so or 18 years, that baby will be applying and not getting into Yale. I'm so happy for you. I'm so excited for you to ask Shannon for contacts. to that inferior U.S. whatever. University of spoiled and also stupid children, right, Shannon? Right? Elbow Nudge. Hi, everybody. I'm Britt. I'm here, too. So my good news is going to be really good news every day, not just Friday, because Matt's here. And I could not imagine my life without Matt, or skits in my life, or even my life. And it was just a really scary moment because he almost let me get an heart attack, but he is still here. It's still here. And Shannon's like, oh, it is just so amazing. The relationship that you two have, wow, wow, someone can stand Gina.

That is just incredible. Do you take any kind of drugs or do you just, do you use earplugs? What do you, how do you do it? How do you do it? You know, I always told David, you know, even though we are parting, I would love to have a good relationship with whoever is doing your life. So next time you're walking on the beach with some slut, invite her up. I would love to look at her slutty fakes and her slutty. outfit and see, this is who you left me for? And then I'd serve us some quinoa.

Well, guys, I've got good news, too. Thank you so much for giving me the time, by the way. And thank you so much for everybody not eating your croissants in front of me and waiting until you get home. But, you know, Tamara and I sat down and we had a conversation, and this woman who has been nothing but vile to me now for two years, I've forgiven while not forgiving Katie, who's done nothing to me. So can I get a round of applause? Don't be great. Thank you, guys thank you so much she's also wearing her own tracks it's all good everyone her own track oh well now she's wearing a croissant okay well you know baby steps oh yeah this hair is just it's hanging off me girl do you have any extras tamara i'll take it isn't that hilarious isn't this so

fun well the question is how what do we do and brechin what do we do with you too and gretchen's like um well i keep asking the girls should tamara and i just talk or like do you think we need a meditator Like, what do we need to do? Had I needed a meditator? I'm just confused because I asked you, do you ever say that you had to go to the hospital? You said yes. No, I don't remember saying that.

And if I did, then I misspoke. Oh, you misspoke when you said, but I did have to go to the hospital because I just felt so sick. Hmm. But like you literally said, yeah, I mean, oh, I misspoke. While we're excoriating a lot.

can we kick her out kick her out oh i just misspoke i just misspoke uh which by the way also to be fair lesson to katy next time just say you misspoke it's the oldest trick in the book oh well i misspoke yeah just do it it's like fake accountability yeah you're technically taking accountability but you're actually i didn't leave the show i'm just spending some time with my family uh but i'll be back so um um gretton's so tammer's like yeah you know what the hell You said yes. Okay, she didn't misspoke, misspeak, whatever you said. So English is stupid.

Okay, I don't even know. You told me in New Orleans you went to the hospital. So which one is it? And Gretchen's like, no, that's not what happened. I did not go to the hospital. I remember saying that I was so sick that night that I probably should have gone to the hospital. But that was the extent of it. And then we see a flashback for, you know, lying.

And so then Tamara is like, well, Katie said, Stade and Matt Coughman. Wait, Katie said, Slade called Matt and said, we can't talk about this. What about that? I'm gonna start nodding my head very quickly. What about that? What about it? And, um, uh,

Gras just like, that's not true. Like, that's not what happened. Okay, you can call Slade. And Tim was like, so she's lying about that too? No, well, she's been lying about a lot of things, Tamara. And like, it's literally crazy that you think that. Yeah, so you're, you're lying. Like a liar.

So then they go, is this where they go talk by themselves? Yeah, so they go to talk alone. And everybody's watching them. And Jen's like, oh my God, she looks so fiery. Why does she bring Joe? Is she really good friends with Joe? I don't really get it. And Gina's like, well, but that's not the spirit of good news Friday.

Well, y'all, well, maybe Tamara doesn't have any other friends. I mean, just Tamara. So Sam's like, You know what, Gretchen? I don't understand why my name keeps getting brought up. She was, out of all people you could bring? Like, why do you bring Joe? Does it bother you that she's here?

I mean, it's more about, like, what your intent is. No, I'm sorry. I think I brought her to go after you? It's intent. Intent. Intent. Intent. Is you your intents?

You think I'm about here to go after you or what? Well, I just. I just think that maybe not bringing the person who is maybe Slate's X is the best thing because we've had issues, you know, with Slate's X's. And she goes, oh, I didn't even call that Chief of it. I mean, it's just so. You know, some girl, you say Slade or whatever. She's that maybe I have nothing to do with that. Commercials.

Here comes one right now. Then we go back to the table and Heather's like, you know, I have such a weird place in all of this because, when I joined the group, they were friends, we hung out. I was much wealthier than they were back then. And now, flash forward to now, now they're not getting along. I'm still wealthier than them, but now I've got a daughter going to Yale. And it's just a weird place for me to be in right now. Yeah.

So, um, Gene was like, oh my God. Gratchen was it, Tim was wedding? Uh, wish you had bridesmaid, as if they didn't watch every episode of this show before they came on. And, um, Heather's like, no, but I was, a bridesmaid. It was interesting. I still smell Vienna sausages being passed around. Is that a weird memory? Timer, let me ask you this. Do you feel any remorse for anything when you said that I was cheating on GIF? And let me see flashbacks of Tamara with her like gumdrop hairstyle back then

where it was like hair that would like have a plateau. Gumbdrop air style. Wait, what did you say? I didn't me to cut you off. I thought it was. No, because her hair, it was like, it was like flat on top and then it would like cascade down and go like a little wider. It was like a blonde hair gumdrop on her head. It was that look for a while in Orange County. It started like season one and lasted through season like 14. I saw you sitting on a guy's lap at the St. Regis. But does that mean I'm having an affair on Jeff? Why you kissed him? And Jeff is in the hospital. So Teamrette when you go on Slade a deadbeat dead and then we see the deadbeat dad thing I'm sorry Gretchen but Slade was a deadbeat dad okay so I pulled this up from the ever so trustworthy

People magazine which I think that's pretty trustworthy in this in this world right let's see here where is it the mom basically the mom is saying that there was In terms of child support, Smiley owes $152,655.255.27, according to a court order obtained by people at the time. So what does that mean? If he owed $152 grand according to court orders and he didn't pay it, wouldn't that make him a deadbeat dad? I'm extremely confused about how we're defining this now. The mother also told people she created a go-fund me to help with cost for Grayson's memorial, as well as to pay for his existing medical bills. She received donations from the two judges, two judge, uh, sorry, two T's and a pod co-hosts.

Slid and Gretchen can keep the money that rightfully belong to my child, but they cannot shamefully capitalize on his sweet memory as I will no longer permit it and in death I will be his voice, she said. Enough is enough. So I don't know. If you don't want that shit being spread around, then talk to that lady and the court or the, the court or the, the, court papers that says that slade owed that much money literally don't care and i think at this point it's such old news and the fact that gretchen's bringing it up is so stupid so gretchen is like she's like you literally started saying these things from like from the very gickle making accusation they're like weren't even true and she's like yeah but there were articles about him not being child support so i mentioned it like now there's no articles about mubs like why do you guys keep talking about slade and the child support like it's it's been years like we all know

Slade Smiley has faced multiple court orders for child support with his ex-partner, Michelle, claiming he owed blah, blah, blah. Reports, yeah. So, I mean, I don't know. You, what we do know, here's what we do, though, is that what we do know, what we do know is that. What we do know is that at the heart of all this bullshit, every single one thing, everything is slayed. It's always cool. Because then Tamara's like, well, you have to remember that 13 years ago, Slade was on stage calling me fat. And then we see him doing his standup where he's like, you know, if B.F. Goodrich issued a press release said that Tamara Bar.

And he is replacing the Michelin Man as their mascot. Okay. Yeah. And then, God, he was just hilarious, wasn't he? And Brett was like, you know, this is a problem because we go back and forth. Okay. So let me start with this. But you don't even let me talk, Chris.

Okay, but let me start with this. But I can't talk about it. Well, let me start with this. Man, what, boy, I can't talk. But I'm just saying, let me start because I'm sorry for reaching out to your daughter. It's like, oh, okay. And you can stop there. You can start.

You can start. Yeah. I'm sorry. I did that because I did, I know that it hurt you, and that was not my intent at the time. And so then over at the table, Shannon's like, well, I hope that Gretchen can get to the point where I am, which is I, I just have total indifference to Tamara. Like, I am so indifferent. Like when I see Tamara, do I get angry? Nope. Do I yell at her? Nope. Do I want to throw little cubes of cheese at her forehead? Nope. Because I want to have those for myself. I am totally indifferent. Shannon indifferent, indifferent, badore. That's what I'm known for being indifferent and not emotional. Yeah, but I feel like you go back and forth because in New Orleans you're friendly and you guys go to a bar, but then in my house you're indifferent. Well, what is it, Shannon? But it must be difficult for you to talk the line of having fun with someone you have history with. And it's like, wait a minute, I got to be smart and protect myself. I get that.

I'm a person of the people. It's easy for me, television's Heather to Bro. So then back to the other two, Gretchen's like, come on with so. that you could come to the table and say, Gretchen, I'm sorry, I got involved. And she's like, well, we haven't even gotten there, Gretchen, because you won't let me talk. So what about you? Let me talk about some. Okay, I'm going to talk now. I plan to lose and see the flag of the United States of America. That's not anything to do with what we're talking.

Let me see what I want. My turn to talk, bitch. So Tamara's saying that she's like, I did not call him a deadbeat dad. Which, of course, she basically did. And Gretchen's like, yeah, what you talked about in your podcast is the same as calling him that. Like that was the intent of it and everything. She said, well, first of all, I can't control what gets put on the podcast. I have put together all of our headlines. I have stitches together all the words that I say.

I can't help it. I just, they say they had me walk in and they had me do the entire phonetic alphabet and then they just type out the entire podcast. It's not my fault. That was so crazy, blaming I heart. It was literally on your podcast. What are you talking about? And so Gretchen's like, well, you could say you don't want to talk about it.

She says, why would I do that? I don't like you, Gretchen. Okay, do you want to move forward or not? She's like, well, yeah, I want to move forward, but I can't drown the past, Gretchen, okay? I can't upset with the past. She's so upset with me. Hi, Joe. Hi, Joe.

So, yeah. I know, right. So, Tamara's like, yeah, what's it going to take for you to let things go? And Gretchen's like, okay, I'm not going to let go, like, what you did, because I got, like, so much pain and it hurt to both, like, Slade and I in our lives because, like, when you put up. out that Slade is a deadbeat dad. Like when Slade tries to get work and help his support his family and to help his son, back in the day, people would just like Google it and look it up and be like, Slate is a deadby dad.

Like, I actually guarantee what stopped Slade's employment opportunities even more was the stand-up clip that we just showed that they just showed and him calling Vicky Miss Piggy. And also just his general behavior on the real housewives of being awful as he's been awful to all of us for seven years. Yeah, he's gross. He's a gross person. Because if you do a search, if you do a search for Slade Smiley, you're going to find a million comments and a million items

and a million articles talking about how, ugh, no one likes Slate Smiley. Everyone's like, oh, get rid of Slate Smiley is gross. Slade Smiley is disgusting. That is what's affecting the employment opportunities. And back in your day, you were saying that you wouldn't marry Slade because he had too much debt and all this other stuff that was going on and he wasn't working. So Slade has never been working since you've known him.

So why are we pretending that Slade was that? this like rich guy with the job when that hasn't happened since season two. So I don't know. He also like he basically gave up like corporate life to to follow fame, right? He started trying to be an actor or try to do stand up and comedy. And then he's like shocked that he can't just like insert himself right back into like the corporate world. Or how's he even? I mean, I may have all my facts jumbled up. But I, I can't imagine the deadbeat. the deadbeat element is is the only thing that's preventing him from getting work that's what yeah and also if anybody looks it up it wasn't just tamra saying he was a deadbeat it was because he

wasn't paying his child support there were multiple court orders against him so i mean it's like that's also searchable gretchen so and i can't believe you're making me stand up for tamara but like seriously my god you're with slade and slade is the ultimate worst on this show slate even started all this shit that they're fighting about right now you know slade has always been a problem. He's always going to be a problem. He got you fired the first time and he's going to get you fired the second time. So when Gretchen said like that Slade has not been able to get work because of what Tamara said, Tamara goes, wait, so I stopped him from getting jobs? Yeah. I wasn't aware of that. At that point Tamara's like, I won. I did it. I won this war. I can forgive now. I don't, we can put down our

swords. I'm sorry. I won this argument years ago. I would stop me. I'm going to go stupid. Okay, come on. I'm going to put my knees up against your knees. Okay, now listen here, Crescent. We're like sisters, right, Gretchen, I love you so much, Gretchen. I'm so glad with friends now, Gretchen. Can't wait to break your hand comb and brushing.

Tell you how much I love you, Gretchen. We're best friends now. I don't want to swear I said to affect your life in any sort of way. Gretchen needs to touch, knees to these touching, okay? We'll love each other now. And Gretchen's like, but it still is. We're going to work through all of it then, and I'm willing to move forward. And basically, they agree that they're going to move forward, and they're going to be friends,

and now they're going to hold hands and come back to the table. Wait a minute. Hell just froze over. Pigs are flying. Pigs in a blanket. Out of my person into my mouth. Wacky Emily! Well, well, look at that. Now I'm going to be the assail of the group. I guess I'm going to be the one holding onto a grudge for Tamara. I'm like, that's exactly right. You thought that was not a consideration. Like I, like I've been saying, yeah, Shannon, Shannon makes it about her. But to be fair, she's also making about her because she knows.

Like, ultimately everything that Tamara is doing is part of like a larger war against Shannon. So Gretchen is just a pawn in that. Yeah. So, um, she's like, wow. Well, if Shannon and Gretchen want, I mean, sorry, if Jen and Gretchen, uh, if Gretchen and, uh, if Gretchen and, uh, Jen want to resolve multiple years of issues with Tamara in a 10 minute conversation, and then skip along the beach like five-year-old sluts, then that's fine.

I've been there, and I've done the skipping off, too. I'm not going to do it anymore. Hoop. Hold on. Let me make my lips into the hoop noise. Oh, so you made up. Oh, oh. Oh.

Is this step one, or are there going to be multiple steps of making up, or are you guys just going to say that you're good and put a Band-Aid over it and just isolate me in the group and make me look like the bitch? run me off the show because I just want to prepare myself mentally. Thanks so much. Thank you. To Good News Friday, we're taking step one in going to Yale. The producer's like, do you think it's going to last? No, I don't think it's going to last.

And I was like, their relationship is like what my career on this show should have been. Two weeks of life. That's it. So now, poor Sophie arrives at the beach. Her mother has just told everybody that she got dumped. So, of course, Emily comes in with the softest hand. So before you got here, Shannon told us you got dumped by a hottie. Sorry, stupid.

Want to pick in the blanket? In the spirit of it takes a village, you're here with all your wise elders and the very elders, Shannon. Anyway, we're going to help you out of it because we're going to tell you all our worst breakup stories. And we're going to start with Gina. Your mother's got five from just last week alone. Yeah, I don't know if, I don't know if Sophie needs the worst breakup stories. I mean, she's, she's, she, her mom's Shannon. Yeah, she's had enough breakup stories.

She has perspective. Just give the kids the croissants in a box. I know, right? So, she was like, well, I would say, like, my worst breakup story was like my divorce, but like, it like it all landed where it was supposed to. And Tim was like, yeah, okay. Joe, what was your worst breakup story? That dude Slade.

Oops, sorry. And Joe's like, yeah, you don't want to know my story. And we see the flashback of her and Slate breaking up in therapy. And now there's like, well, I was in middle school once and I had a boyfriend and he broke up with me on a soccer field with his whole posse of guys. By the way, he's gay now and has never worked in the industry. It's humiliating, mostly for him. Yes, I was standing there on the fields of Horace Greeley High School, being dumped by a gay man, and I thought, how sad for you, because I'm going to grow up and be wealthy, sending my child to Yale, and you're just going to be a gay in New York who somehow doesn't make it on Broadway. How terrible! I remember I was so obsessed with this wrestler, and he had a bronco, and I loved his hair so much that I got tracks to look just like his hair.

and I just I mean he had a Bronco and Heather's like I mean the Bronco alone what is a Bronco oh Terry and I just bought bought one of those we we just actually bought one of those football team gotta I'm so impressed you dated someone with the football team also so I went to a house party and I was like you know it's a small town so we're just going to have sex oh that's what happens when you're from a small town I'm from a small town too that's what we do too. Big towns people don't have sex like that, but in small towns we do. Wait, so you had sex? You had, you had sex with like a wrestler? Sophie, do not listen to this whatsoever. And she's like, yes, yes. And then, you know, he had his

friend take me home and, you know, then I had sex with a friend. And then I was like, do you think he still likes me? And then the friend was like, I don't know. So it was a really great night for both of us. Sophie, okay, Sophie, you can go home now. Don't listen to, don't listen to anti-Gen anymore. Thanks, Sophie. I had a boyfriend back in the 80s. He was so hot and everything. And he dumped me. He had a girlfriend's stuff. So I had the key to his hat, so I went to his ass, and I got his favorite other jacket, and I stabbed it with the knife.

I kept stabbing and stab me. I said, fucky! Fucker! And then, I was leaving out the garage, and I was standing there with the knife still held above my head, and he opened the garage, and he drove away because he saw him standing there with the knife. It was so funny. It was so funny that I kept my hat off on that day for

the next 20 years of my life. So then, Jen... Love come traps. So Jen's like, you showed him. So they're all just, like, laughing. And China goes, you know, someday, Sophie, you're going to sit at a table and you're going to laugh about your breakup stories with another group of toxic women, too. Here's to Sophie getting kicked out of a party one day for lying about something.

Everybody, good news Friday. And then we got the mid-season trailer, which features. featured zero Katie. So it looks like she is done and done. Katie did say that she will be going to the reunion. But I think that's it for Katie for the regular episodes. She's done. Yeah, it looks like that's a wrap on Katie.

But the rest of the season still looks insane. So let's see. Of course, the Gretchen and Tamara Truce lasts about five minutes, as we all suspected. So I guess we'll see. We'll see where it goes. You know what? We'll see. Everyone, thank you so much for being here.

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