Watch What Crappens - #2994 Crappy Hour 9-8-2025: RHOC Mess

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

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We love you guys. Thanks for being here. We're on a boat. Okay. Hi, Ronnie. Hi there. So good to see you. It was a great weekend.

It sucks that it's over as it does every time a weekend ends. I just, I sleep so much. I don't know if something's wrong with me. I mean, if something's wrong with me, it's been wrong with me my whole life. But God, I just love to sleep. It's a problem. Well, it seems like it's not just the weekend that's over. It seems like your porn sash has disappeared.

What happened to it? Yeah. I think I'll bring it back next week. I was trying to trim it today because it was a little bit unruly, and I trimmed it uneven. So I looked like I had a hang. Not a hang nail. What do you call a hang lip? I looked like I had a hang lip.

Cleff lip. Cleft lip? Oh, here. Left palate. I'm my Joaquin. I can't pull that off, you know? Okay. Okay.

So it was bad, it was bad aiming. It was bad aiming with a shaver. I'm sorry to hear that. I'm sorry. It happens to all of us at some point or another. what would you do this weekend well my parents are here in town so i've been having lots of fun my parents yes we went to a restaurant and watch tv and cook some food so we've just been having a very nice calm time and um you know this because of our sort of bravo dread at the moment

i haven't had to subject them to as many a real housewife shows as usual which is too bad they're going to get to watch guess oh you love your wife Sorry. No, I was going to say, I love my mom's withering opinions on the Real Housewives. Oh, well, so good to give them tonight, because tonight you get to watch Real Housewives of London. Yes, I'm so excited. Yeah, you guys have been asking for Real Housewives of London recap. So we're not going to do the whole thing because it's not playing here in America, but we are going to do the first episode this week because, you know, we don't have anything.

You know what else has been really good, which I've been watching, is real, not real. house lives, but secret lives of Mormon wives. I know I'm really behind everybody, but we covered the first season and the second season we didn't because we had enough shows. And I just watched the whole thing, wow, wow. Those girls get down and dirty. I mean, that show is so dark and they act so nice. Even when they're stabbing each other right in the back, like, mm-hmm. Here's how I feel about you. You're a stupid bitch and I hope your whole family dies in a fire. I really have to get back into it because I really loved the first season, but the second season came around and I was like, there's too much. There's too much going on. We got a lot to do with the Bravo. I'm just like,

I can't take this on right now. And then I lost momentum. So I'm a little sad. Plus, I heard that Great British Bake Off is back. So I'm also like really excited to dive back into that. So there's just like, it's like, remember when we did those recaps? God, that was so fun doing those recaps. It was fun too. Oh, yeah. But anyway, here we are. But anyway, here we are under the tent to discuss Bravo Headlines of the week. What stood out to you this week, or the past couple of weeks actually in Bravo headlines. Man, what are you thinking? Well, I think the thing that stood out to me.

I think that stood out to me is a little bit old news by now. But Karen Hugar is out of jail. There's no new update since we last discussed it. So there's not much to discuss there. But I just wanted to acknowledge the Grand Dame. Okay. This is the first crappy hour she gets to listen to since she's been out of jail. So that's great.

Well, obviously, that's great. I would like to congratulate the prison for getting rid of Karen because you know that she had to be making them effing crazy. They just kept making that get out date earlier and earlier. You know she made them insane. And, you know, they can breathe easily today knowing that Karen is no longer in there. Can I get a softer pillow? I don't deserve this. I'll do a better pillow, please.

Security, security. that like all we all the only thing around you is security you can't keep going out for us like what what do you want you call me one more time they're responsive here um you know what here's something i would actually like to talk about which is not hard hitting or major but i think it's a nice human interest story to kick off our hour okay and uh the thing that has jumped out to me is news that Carl Radke takes People magazine inside softbar, softbar, non-alcoholic adventure. I'd like to dedicate this to all the people who said,

I can't do it, I did it, kind of. It's almost open. It's almost open. Not really open yet. But I'd like to prove that I'm making strides by not wearing white jeans that are skin tight. He's wearing jeans in this picture, actual jeans. And I don't know how I feel about it, Carl. I feel like he made no long.

Like, he doesn't need to have jeans that are skin tight because he just has skin that skin tight at the moment. I mean, it's like, lucky him. God, I'm jealous. He is, it's like, it's, he is aging in a, you know, we all age. It happens to each and every one of us. There's no point in shaming people. But what is happening to Carl? What is happening to our sweet Carl?

Like, this man, like, he just, he looks so weathered. Like, like, what, what has he been doing? Who is in a relationship? relationship with Lindsay. I mean, if that doesn't weather you, I mean, that's a constant storm. Oh, my goodness. Okay. So, you know what? My neighbors in Texas while I was away, while I've been away, have just been doing whatever they want. I live in a unit where there's two places on one lot. So I'm very close with the neighbors. We're like a foot from each other, okay? And open that Coke, Ben. I hope that's a video that you're opening.

It's actually just salsa, just salsa water. So my neighbors decided they're going to get a sprinkler system, one of those hose things that has sprinklers in it. So you don't like actually put the sprinklers in. It's like a host thing. Anyway, they, they aimed this right at my freaking bedroom window. Okay. So the first night I'm home, I thought I thought it was gunshots, honestly. I felt like the guy from below deck. I was like, I woke up with gunshots. It was like gunshots. It was like, boom, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. It's like, what the hell is that? I jumped out of bed. I went out there, the freaking sprinkler. God knows how long it's been aimed right at my window. It's not like they can't hear that it's aimed right at my

window, machine gunning me. And the whole thing is not, the window's not cracked, but all the, all the, um, the paint and stuff is coming off the window now. And let me tell you what it looks like. It looks weathered. It looks weathered. So I think that's what you're trying to say. That was a long way of getting to.

You know what? Carl just suffered from years of Lindsay machine gunning him in the face with her water spout. Okay. And I think I sometimes forget that. Maybe that's why he looks weathered, but. Yeah, I sometimes forget that. And I feel kind of like a dick because like he's weathered.

like it's just it's something that's what happens to people it's what happens to people but sometimes i'm just so shocked with carl and uh he has taken he takes us onto this tour oh there i am softball opening soon so it opened up over labor i would like to point out that ronnie did not call me whether it bent it because ronnie respects ronnie respects my fish oil game so go ahead i yeah no well you know i like me unleashed a monster in me and there's no back. But Carl, he opened this, of course, over Labor Day weekend, softball, because that's when they're going to be probably shooting the season finale of Summer House.

Loomphi's not the only one going into labor this year. Not to be competitive. Not to be competitive. So we actually get like a tour of it. And, you know, the truth is the place looks great. It, like, visually, it looks like very, like, it looks beautiful. But I still have some negative. out of my drink. I'll tell you that much. He's got a popsicle right in a drink here. Look at this.

A popsicle covered with what, cumin and chili? That looks crazy. I'm not, I don't know if it's just, just imagine that it's Austin's tongue licking glass. Ben, I don't know that I'm going to, maybe that's why they're charging you 20 bucks for a drink or whatever because they're putting a popsicle in there. Look at that. I don't know. Here's, here's my concern. My concern is this. First of all, like the ongoing like if you if you listen to his tour he's like whole over here we have some really functional cocktails or if you need some functional rehabilitation it's all like some functional like everything's functional which I'm like I cannot believe that this is the true use of the word function I don't think that's right

but second of all I as for as nice as it looks it's kind of if you had a non-functional cocktail over there what if you just got it like this is what if it was just like a cup of screws and you're like wait a minute why did you why did you why it's their hardware In my cup. Well, it's functional. It's not fine. It's literally not a drink, Carl, get me a drink. Disfunctional.

But I just, my worry is it kind of gives me we work vibes. Kind of gives me like, you know, student, student center at college. It looks like where you go, where you put up a poster to say that you want to, like, join some sort of like fencing club or something. I don't know. I'm just like, I just worry that that good guy clause is going to be invoked very quickly. I don't know. I actually want him to succeed.

Who got claws. Despite everything I want Carl to succeed, it just looks nice sometimes. It looks gorgeous. It looks very pretty. But you have a whole bar. I have to say you have a whole bar here. Well,

I guess this is the soft opening of soft. So it wasn't really the opening. And I mean, you can tell because the bar only has a TV that looks like a microwave. And then you have, you know, a few bottles. It's not really a lot in here.

It looks like the little room in the Hyatt place that you get snacks. you know it's just it's yeah it's just it's so big it's so cavernous and as he talks about he's like we could have events here we could do this here we could do that here we're like oh no this is we could have pregnancy events where pregnant women come to talk yeah yeah we're going to have events where pregnant women talk about stuff you know they can speak I wanted to be a place for the community the pregnant community the Williamsburg pregnant community I don't know I don't know but this is the latest update so soft is soft launched and i guess we'll see maybe a bravo con i guarantee bravo con he's going to have some like very austin style kind of trailer they'll be like what are

those like trailers that you attach the back it's like sort of like round wheels i'll have one of those like a little food serving yeah like remember when we got those bagels uh in in austin like a few months ago remember we we stopped by that little trailer oh yeah i think it's going to be like one of those trailers and I'll be serving soft soft drinks at bravo con that is my prediction and I'm sure there'll be like a fake palm tree and like a flamingo that's I'm going to say that right now someone is asking why is the sign so small I had to look at the picture to see um it looks like it says so feet or a square feet so feet right like square feet um love the color of the outside this is my blue I love this kind of blue what a beautiful blue I don't know the exterior paint is

great. Good for him. I mean, I'm, I'm a dick, too, though. It looks very. When I, when I saw this, my first thought was, is it open or not? Because it's not. It's like, we're going to open. We're just, it's like a, it's like a welcome party before we open. Open the fucking, open it. Open it. Open it. You're making me crazy now. Open it. Yeah, it looks great, looks great. Looks great. I just have concerns. That's, that's really where I'm at, everyone. Okay. Well, you know what? Concerns. noted. But congratulations, Carl. I'll fucking with you aside. Good for you getting that thing open. Yeah, congratulations.

Also, didn't they say that's $10,000 a month? That doesn't look very expensive for $10,000 a month. I say you're getting a bargain. Good Garclaws. Oh. Okay. I mean, so that was my, that was my human interest story to start off the episode. What's on your mind, Ronnie? There have been some rumors of Real Housewives of New Jersey. They're like, you know, are they filming? Are they not? Who's coming back?

Who's not coming back? Um, we, uh, we had Melissa Gorga and Danielle Cabral over at the some award show. What was it? MTV music videos. Yeah. Is that what that is? Oh, Vemez. Yeah.

Jal. Um, then we had, um, Marge making an Instagram post that was something like, the bitch is back. Something like that. And people are like, does this mean they're back? It's like, no. it doesn't really mean anything it was it was just a post what do you want for me i'm about to post words it was just words words in a post i was talking about sabrina she's back in tennifly after spending the

entire summer in prague it's check republic okay bitch is back and then there have been rumors that they've been doing test filming with the real housewives of new jersey with melissa margaret and um jennie i'm just kidding uh melissa margaret and who's the other one dolores i guess would be the returners for sure but that they're supposedly leaving teresa out that they're doing tests without teresa so i don't know if any of that's true that's just some goss on the on the internet i just don't think that bravo is leave is is dropping teresa i just don't think so i think if the concern is that louis might be a liability i think bravo is doesn't mind it's the sort of mess that bravo likes i think jenn aiden is gone i think that what's her face is

probably gone i don't even remember her name you know the one with the the ski jump knows oh um wasn't that another daniel what was that girl's name the girl whose husband owned up rachel fuda rachel fooda rachel food what was the tile company yeah the tile empire tile empire i don't even think we love tiles and my husband's very serious about tiles and you're coming from my husband right now yeah i don't know i don't need her about it really i do I need Danielle Cabral back. I need her back. She was crazy.

I need her dad back crying into his fist. Oh. Oh. My daughters don't speak to each other. Oh. I told him my son. And that is. Maybe that's what you don't talk to me because I called him a daughter.

Oh, but he's like a daughter. Oh. My brother doesn't talk to me. You want a fucking peace. Yeah, I like that girl. I think she's cray cray and I want her back for sure. Now, Bravo has come up against a lot in the past. few years with the reality reckoning, a lot of people threatening lawsuits, you know, and we've seen

them kind of react scared in that, you know, they haven't settled any of these lawsuits, so they're not scared in that way. But they have kind of backed down in some of their theory. They've tried to show us like a softer side of Bravo, I think. I don't know how well is going. Like Sears. Yeah, they've tried. And they're trying to show like, we're not scared, but we're listening. Well, let me tell you what we'll scare them. Teresa fans of Teresa doesn't come back. Because Teresa fans will fire bomb NBC Universal. They'll do it. They'll do it. Yeah, they will

They will. They are not fucking around. So I don't see Bravo doing that. I think that they, maybe not afraid of Teresa, but definitely afraid of, you know, Teresa's stands. I shouldn't say fans, because, you know, you're allowed to be a fan of somebody. I'm a fan of Teresa. But, you know, the stands, like the real cray

craze. Yeah, I just think that Teresa, I think, I think Bravo, she's just too big, too big. She's just too big. She's unsinkable. I think Bravo's keeping her. I think she'll be there, you know? Well, I feel like, was she just on a show?

I feel like she was just on a show. I know she was on villains or something. Didn't she just do villains or one of those? She did villains, but I thought there was something else that she was on. But either way, I just have a hard time thinking that she's not on it. I think that rumor is like started by Danielle Cabral.

I think she puts it out there. She's like, hey, Nate, go tell people. Go tell Dave Quinn. Go tell Dave Queen. Teresa's out. Okay, Cabral's in. Tell everyone. And tell everyone a kid's bop, too, by the way.

Let's get two stones with one bird, okay? I have a personal question in here from Britt. Actually, she says, did I miss any Bobcat updates? Nope, there haven't been any more. And I've literally sat at that window playing the piano. I mean, my practice has gone up because I've been searching for that Bobcat. It has not come back. And I'm very sad.

But, you know, I do still have Buehler. I can't be just inviting a Bobcat over. And then it gets big beats Bueller. You know what I mean? And so I have to be good. I'm doing like nature. I'm just doing the nature thing where I'm sitting behind a window and just searching for it and sending my love that way. But I'm not leaving out food or anything.

I'm not crazy because I'm the idiot who would be friend of Bobcat and then it kills me. You know, I'm one of those people who's like, but the Bobcat ate my face. Yeah. Also, let's hold some space for the fact that it might be a mountain lion. So Mountain Lion babies do have spots as well. that's what people have been messaging me yeah um to to warn you about my by the way which is like don't befriend of both adorable just know that mama's nearby okay what mama wants mama gets careful yeah so people are saying that what maybe what we're thinking about is that uh teresa and

and gia are both on special forces on fox and i think that was it did anyone even watch that show that's just a show yeah i don't maybe not i feel like special forces is exists solely to get us to react to their casting, but no one actually watches it. Like, they don't, I don't think they actually even air the show. I think they just make casting announcements and they release clips and then that's it. Then it's a wrap because I don't know many of who watches that show. Um, I don't either. It seems, I don't know, maybe it's like people who are really into like war stuff, you know,

like those guys. Like I have a couple of friends who are like, bro, did you watch bands of brothers? Like, no, no. Every time we start talking about TV shows That's like one of the best things of all time I think there are just people who are just like into war stuff You know They do

There are people that love war stuff And it's just not me I just don't I don't find it fascinating But you know the thought of Teresa and Gia Is scary right in war My goodness Can we just stop at all right?

Just stop it all right and just stop You want to fuck with me You want to fuck with me Teresa going up against Putin actually I was just thinking now I'm in I just talked myself I know this show it sounds great I was reading an article today about how a tank said like not like tank camouflage has evolved rapidly over the past three years because of drones and the fighting in Ukraine and so they've been having to modify all these tanks to make them partially to camouflage from drones but also like

drones will drop like a grenade on them so they have to like add this other thing on top of it and then the drones will fly into the things and then they have to add chains and the drones will get underneath that do all these modifications which is not unlike being a real housewife in the first place and second of all I just love the idea of like teresa potentially like modding out a tank and just doing it all wrong just making it look like a big gaudy tacky luxury car they're like wait a minute why are meatballs being dropped all over the ukraine It's a reason to charge of the drones, too. Oh, no.

Oh, war. Hor hilarious. So Alexio Matsky got married to someone named Jake Zingerman, and he must be rich, because otherwise, why would you marry somebody whose last name is Zingerman? You know that that guy's annoying. He's like, blingering.

He may have deli access. Because there's Zingerman's Deli of Ann Arbor. Hello, come on to my Zingerman's Deli people out there. Hello, hi-fi. I made a reference. Zingerman Deli, no, who is this person? He looks like a tall version of Josh Altman in little pictures. Let me see.

Tiny here. He does. Right? Here, I'm going to share it. He does. I'm going to say this right now. So this is a wedding picture. Okay.

Yeah. Guys. Her dress is pretty. And Mauricio looks like he's in guys. and dolls. I'm not sure what he's doing. Yes. I love to be your lady tonight, huh? Listen, let be a lady tonight. That's all I'm

saying. I love Mayor Winningham on the right. Like, I love this lady who like is probably the mother of the room and she's just like pulled into this like world of Beverly Hills plastic surgery and fillers. And she's like, what the fuck am I standing next to you right

now? I just want my son to be happy. Mama Zingerman. Yeah. Mama Zingerman's like, is this a wedding or a convention for cabbage doll faces? Cabbage Patch doll faces. Zing! Mama Zingerman got one in there. Mama Zingerman looks like she already cannot stand Kyle at all.

Look at her. She's like, this one I have to stand next to you. I brought my best angled purses. I got my best angle rippled purse here. And I got to stand next to this one. Yeah, they had maroon as their color, I guess. That was a big thing. I've never seen. I don't think I've seen maroon as a color in the sense like high school.

Maroon was my junior high color. Only five people could wear it though. Did you know only five people could wear it? Where's that from? Oh. Zing! What do you have the Zingermans? You just got Zingerman. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappence commercial. It's your man, Nick Cannon. I'm here to bring you my new podcast. I've heard y'all been needing some advice in the love department. So who better to help than yours truly? Nah, I'm serious. Every week I'm bringing out some of my celebrity friends and the best experts in the business

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But everyone's like, oh, my God, where's Derreet? And she said, Derreet and we're both at the wedding, but they didn't make the picture. So they're not part of the five. That's intentional, by the way. When that happens, that's not my accident. That's what I said. I was like, don't act like the one picture you post of your friends and say the Fox force four or whatever you just leave out durit on accident ma'am on how dare you how dare you that's that is

something's up with that yeah because i think i saw a picture of um bows from the wedding as well right wasn't bows there or no i don't know i didn't really look at that many pictures i just um i just honestly copy and pasted the link hey are you saying you're not obsessed with alexia umanski's wedding to a rando wow i can't believe it yeah um but good for her i guess you know that's still something people do so uh get married so uh good for her yay what do you want to talk about next well i let's should we i think it's i think it's time that we it's time to it's time to talk about orange county stuff right it's time yeah we have to get on well let's talk about one thing first um because i think real housewives of orange county is going to take the rest of the

time. So Britney Cartwright goes on romantic Mexican getaway with a new boyfriend after his wife blast him online. Brittany Cartwright and her new boyfriend Brandon Hansen packed on the PDA in steamy new picks in photos obtained by blah, blah, blah, who cares? They go to Cabo together. I can't tell if he's cute or not, honestly. He's got glasses on the whole time. Is he? I can't tell. He's a big Some angles, not cute from other angles. I'm going to say not cute overall. I'm going to look, looking at tattoos, I'm going to say he is not cute. Sorry.

Okay, well, here I'll show everybody on the screen so you can see him. So this is him. So they had all these pictures on the beach. Yeah, I'm going to go with not cute. I don't, these tattoos. I'm going to say you're not cute because of tattoos, but that's all I can see, sir. So sorry. Let's see.

So then he, I'm trying to get to the picture that was so effective. offensive. There's, oh, this one here. So see how he's like touching her belly and she's taking a picture and he's like licking out her earwax with his tongue and all that good stuff. So Gigi, dun, done, done. Gigi made a post. And she said something along here. I'm trying to get it up now. Well, Nessa, not Gigi Hadid for those, you know, because they do exist in the Bravo universe together. This is, okay, go on. See what Gigi said. Gigi said something. I'm looking for the quote here, but I don't see it. Gigi said something like, is she pregnant or what? Because his hands on her belly and she looks pregnant.

And like, is this a pregnancy announcement? You don't do that. What's wrong with you? And you've been pregnant. Yes. You do, you know what? You do that if you were on the Valley, Golnessa style or Persian style,

because then you're like, that's their way of saying, guess what? Our show's coming soon. We're going to start a rivalry with the other show by saying something rude to someone else. I'm not saying I approve it. But like to me,

as soon as I saw that, that Gigi was in like a nascent feud with Brittany. I was like, I know what this is all about. She's trying to get that hype going for her version of the valley. Yeah. So I guess that's what happened. So of course, Kristen got all pissed off. I was like, oh, Dario!

And went off on Gigi. And then Gigi went back off on her and was like, you don't want words with me. If you think you're going to have words with me, you're going to get some words. And you like words? You're about to get some words. wordy

wordy watch out watch out for those words that's a Gigi it's a difficult Gigi post I didn't really understand what it said but I knew it was threatening

I felt very threatened by it she's like you want a piece of me come on and get a piece of me I'm Gigi from the valley baby Gigi from the valley come get your peace Chris was like you come for my friend you come for me

and then Zach Lickham was like um how dare you how dare you come for a pregnant woman? So I'm not really sure, but they're only three. And then Brittany went on her podcast and was like, y'all, you know, I don't got no beef for G.G. But it ain't nice to body shame nobody. But it ain't nice to do that. But some people are like she's not body shaming you. She's literally asking if you were doing a pregnancy thing because she was, he was holding her belly. I mean, I don't, I don't know.

But I'm an idiot. Listen, socially. I'm an idiot. I put my foot in my mouth all the time. We all know it. Okay. There's nothing to deny there. I'm the worst. Even I know not to do that, Gigi. I mean, come on. Yeah, you never ask if someone's pregnant. You let them offer that. Okay. You don't, you don't enter that as evidence on your, on your behalf. But to be fair, you know how I know that? Because I've done it before. So I, you know, I did burn my hand that way. One time when I was waiting tables, many years ago, it's in my early 20s. just a little babe in the woods and um i said what are you do to somebody oh hell no oh no you just you just said to order more food because it looks like you don't have enough come on let's

get you some more food eating for two yeah that was yeah i have another at john's pizza i have other things i actually want to talk about before we get to o-c i just really i just remembered An article that I really enjoyed highlighted. The headline was how Harry Stiles swooped in like Cinderella's Prince. Hello, it's called Prince Charming thing, to help Real Housewives Star avoid disaster at Star-studded Parisian wedding. So, of course, I fell for the clickbait. I was like, who is Harry Stiles interfacing with? I thought I was going to be Lisa Rina.

It was, of all people, Carol Radswell. Carol was climbing up at Shet's staircase and her dress was too heavy. And her friend turned around to take a photo of her. And then Ian swooped Harry Stiles to save her. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So she's got that young man on her arm again. Get again.

I know. Well, I have to say, I was happy for her. I was like, you know, there's a lot of real housewives that try to interface with like the truly famous. and she did it. So, you know, I say good for her. Good for her. She got some Harry Styles. He looked gorgeous.

I'm not even a Harry Styles person. I was like, he looked so handsome right there next to Carol Radzwell. I don't know. Maybe she could swim away from Zoe. Did you see the interview where she was talking about being friends with Robert F. Kennedy, whatever, RFK? And they're like, what's up with you being so liberal and being friends with RFK? And she's like, well, you know, he wasn't into that whole. like anti-conspiracy or anti-vaccinations and all of that i mean he was just a guy it was just a

nice guy i mean he did he did have the road kill like that was his thing like he would find road kill and he would keep it in this car and you know you'd get in there distinct i mean it just smelled like death his van smelled like death so uh she's really batting uh batting batting batting 100 you know with between RFK and Jisleine Maxwell I mean look

Carol's just killing it right now oh someone says didn't she date RFK Jr? Oh wow did they date yikes

no how could you date somebody when you get on the phone and they're like oh would you like to go have a dinner

a night would you like to go to have a dinner his to be fair his voice did not sound like that 20 years ago oh I didn't

now. I don't know. I'm just realizing how little I paid of the news, little attention I paid to the news because I saw a clip of him on the news today. I was like, he talks like that. I don't know. Did he get sick? Is that why? Am I making fun of someone? He has a, there is a, it's a, it's a condition. He has like a spasling. Honestly, don't feel bad. Don't feel bad for shamping our FK. I think we can shame this man. Yeah. Well, I think you're still not supposed to make fun of sick people, but I don't know. It's hard. We'll make fun. We'll make fun. He liked doing voices, and he's like, I'll make fun of someone who'll make other people sick.

How about that? So then, by the way, Debbie in the comments noted, she didn't date JFK Jr. She was married to his cousin, Anthony, I think was his name. He had a brainworm they're saying in the comments. Thanks, you guys. God, you know what? We should just always be on here so I could learn things.

Robert Kennedy had a brain, probably from fucking dead things in his van. Don't those worms warm their way in there? Okay, Ben, go ahead. I'm so sorry. No, actually, someone actually gave the actual medical diagnosis, which is that his condition is being an utter ass hat. I don't know if that's... Thank you, Angela, NCA.

Well, I've suffered from that for sure. To be fair, we all have. It goes around. It's happening right now, perhaps, to me. The other thing that, the last thing I want to talk about, Ron, because I saw this, and I saw this picture on Instagram, and I was not happy about it. Craig and Madison the Croix are going to be guest judges on Top Chef. Madison, fine.

Like, I'm down for Madison. She is born for corn. So give her a corn challenge. But Craig, as a judge on Top Chef, I'm just not sure I buy that one. It'll be like, um, it, like, you know, this tastes a lot like trying to make a relationship work and buying a ring and just like not being loved in return. So, yeah, that's really good. Thanks. You know, we've seen Madison cooking on Southern Charm, and she jokes that she can't cook, but she's kind of like a little southern homemaker.

And then we see, we've seen Craig cook. Craig's cooking is taking a big bag of frozen meats and just dumping them onto the outside, the outdoor grill. Remember, he couldn't figure out how to work the pan and the stove or something in his house? I don't trust. No, Craig knows. I agree with you. Craig, no.

But, yeah, it would be fun. Yeah, yeah, he's sick. Everybody's telling me Robert F. Kennedy's sick. Okay, okay, SARS. So anyway, yeah, I agree with the note. But you know what? We have to get into now this news, because now we're going to run out of time.

Oh, yeah. So let's get into the Kiki Monique of it. Oh, the Real Housewives of Orange County, Kiki Monique's scandal. So Kiki Monique has been everywhere. She's been on every podcast. She has been getting her story out there. Thank you to Vanderpodge, as usual, for saving us the time

because I ain't listening to all that. I'm watching the Mormon, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wides in a weekend. I don't have time for all these podcasts, but she's breaking them down. She was on Carlos King. This is not on Vanderpodge caps, but I saw a clip of this looking it up.

Kiki says that producers called her to come on camera with Gretchen, but she wasn't really comfortable just being with Gretchen because Gretchen was one of the people at the party who said it. She was involved in the story, so she didn't want it only to be Gretchen because, you know, it should be somebody else. So she asked for Gina to be there because she had that piece of gossip that if she told Gina that, I guess it was that if she told Gina that Katie was talking about Gina saying, the agent designers or whatever that gina would be more likely to believe her story so that's why she told her and insisted on her being there at this meeting okay so that was the first thing then there was this rumor about sheena and kiki being friends and so is it sheena that really

started this whole thing is it sheena that said that gretchen said that gretchen said that that she went to the hospital because she was roofied because sheena and gretchen are friends so what was it so she went on katie janella went on teddy's podcast teddy okay hi i'm teddy so wait a second she went on to teddy you mean two t's a pod yeah what did i say well you said teddy's podcast i just want to clarify that it's two t's in a pod a podcast that tam it's tamara's podcast with Teddy and Tamara, who basically started this entire thing about why we shouldn't trust Katie because she goes and talks to content creators is now being welcomed by a content creator who just so happens to be Tamara, by the way. Just want to point that out. Well, I think

this was just a Teddy thing because I don't think Tamara was involved because she has some journalistic integrity. So she's not so Tamara County Day. Doesn't matter. Tamara will earn money off of that ad revenue for that episode. So, yes, hypocrisy has been flagged by me. Yes, flagged hypocrisy. So I'm sure that they would argue that they are not saying content creators, they are saying bloggers and they're not bloggers or podcasters, just because, you know, the semantics in the housewise world.

So they're talking about Sheena. Teddy is saying, okay, hi, I'm Teddy. So we're going to go into the Kiki Monique of it all. So I heard a rumor. There isn't one part of me. And correct me anywhere that I'm wrong. There isn't a part of me that doesn't believe that you went out to dinner with Jen, Brian, Gretchen, Slade, and all this was talked about. It was.

Okay. So we'll get into the Jen of it all in just a minute. But what I was told, and who knows if this is true, but I was told that Gretchen and Sheena are very tight. Yes. And that Sheena told Kiki. And I've heard that for multiple people, too. Okay, okay. Well, I'm glad that we got that figured out.

So I heard they're very tight. So here's multiple sources that could have told Kiki. You are vindicated. Hi, I'm Teddy. This is a Hi, I'm Teddy News Network. I'm Teddy, hi, I'm Teddy. Ha, I'm Teddy. Hi, I'm Teddy.

I don't know. I mean, I love the idea of bringing Sheena into this, but I just don't really see it. Like, I just don't see this as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, as the, it's had it to Kiki. I think Katie is being careless. Katie continues. There's clips of Sheena calling Gretchen with Kiki on their podcast together saying, how do we get you back on the show, how do we do this? And it's also, it's this stream of like 20 slides of how it makes sense that it allegedly was them. She's talking about a post that they saw on Instagram.

And Katie insists that she did not tell Kiki. And Katie is saying, I was just gossiping about myself. I was sitting at that lunch and she knew about the episodes that I hadn't even seen. And she had seen screeners that I hadn't even been given. And it was before we filmed a reunion last year. And I was like, oh my God, I feel this way. I feel that way. And we were talking about it being a woman of color, the only woman of color, and kind of commiserating on that a little bit. And that's when I told her there are some things that I've seen with these women that make me feel a little weird. And that's when I brought up the Gina thing. Yeah, I, um, first of all, I don't think that, like, they even have screeners available that far in advance.

Like, if, if, well, this would have been the last. Oh, just for last season, right? Yeah, this would have been. the last season i guess maybe okay so i got my time that's confused i don't know like i i think that like i i still i just don't think that this was put forth by sheena and then katie it got like mixed up in that ways i don't think that like sheena told kiki and then kiki is saying that katie said it to protect sheena i just don't think that i i think that if sheena said it i think kiki would say sheena told me this and i i just don't see what she has i don't know why she would

have to, Kiki would have to like, what motive she has to pin it on Katie necessarily. I think that Katie told her. I think Katie was being sloppy. And I think it's like, and honestly, I don't care that Katie told her, because I think that it's so it's so overblown. Like, it's really, I just think

this is, it's, it's ridiculous that she's losing her, her income because of this stupid lie. When people have lied about far worse and have done far worse on this show. But I just think that like, well, I mean, just thing is like funny, but it's not. I don't, I just, so the allegation is like if we're just piecing this together. So the allegation would be that Katie goes to dinner

with everybody. She hears all this gossip. She gets together with Kiki. And all she told Kiki was the Gina stuff. Like Gina said the thing about Asian designers, which Kiki took. And that and now Katie is alleging, Katie and Teddy are alleging that just to be, just to get Gretton back on the show, Katie, no, Grette, this is so confusing. I need a pen. Didn't Katie say on the show? Didn't Katie?

Basically that they're going to come up with this whole thing. Okay, well, Kiki, I heard this, you heard this information. So why don't we make it that we say that Katie was the one who told us because then that'll start a fight with a Katie on the show and that'll get Gretchen back on the show. It doesn't make any sense.

It doesn't make any sense. It's too far-fetched. Yeah, there's too many moving. And it's honestly not a great story to get on the tab on the show anyway, you know. But also didn't Katie say, didn't she admit to us that she told Kiki that like Gretchen had had to go to the hospital and there were drugs in her system, right? Didn't Katie admit that? I can't keep track of it anymore. No, Katie's saying she never said that to Kiki. She's saying she got together with Kiki, but she didn't tell her that Gretchen went to the hospital.

So she knows. Oh, so she's saying she never told Kiki this. And so the way that Kiki knows about it is. because it's from sheena right because she and brechin are friends so gretchen told sheena she told um she told kiki monique and then kiki monique blamed it on katy to give gretchen a storyline for the show i mean it's i don't yeah i don't i don't i don't brechin doesn't need kiki to do that for her and i don't think he and i think kiki knows that like kiki doesn't need to do that for gretchen i think that maybe she did hear it from sheena at some point but she also heard it from Katie as well.

And I don't know. I just think that whatever, whatever Kiki mentioned to her friend, whatever it trickled back to Tamara, you know, that is, you know, whether it was originally sourced from Sheena or Katie,

it's hard to say, but I just think that like Katie, like I, again, I'm fully on Katie's side, but Katie is like, she is like, she's messed up a lot.

And so it's just, it's not, it just, It seems too far-fetched to me that there's this like conspiratorial thing. Well, I can't really be on Katie's side either. I'm on team nobody because it's hard to be on Katie's side when she's still lying. Like, I believe that she's lying about that too. I just think it's too crazy that she didn't get together and tell Kiki.

And then Kiki's saying, no, she definitely told me. And I can't believe she would throw me under the bus like this. Well, you threw her under the bus by going and telling other people, which event, telling Jacques, which went to Dave Quinn and then Dave Quinn went and ran to Tamara, which is, you know, I don't know. These journalistic integrities that people have are crazy anyway. I don't know that we're really journalists, any of us. But I think Dave Quinn would be because he's at People Magazine.

That's like a real journalist thing, you know. It's a journalistic outlet. But yeah, he shouldn't be running to Tamara and Tattletailing me. What kind of storytellers are these? Where's my deep throat? Where's my Bob Woodward and what's his face? Yeah, Carl Bernstein. Woodward and Zingerman.

Where's Woodman and Zingerman? Yeah. I yeah this is this is a total collapse of all journalistic integrity and this is what happens when we do not support real journalism obviously clearly um but it's hard to be it's hard to support real journalism because you have to pay every time you read an article that's true I haven't went to see something the other day someone sent us about Wendy Malick winning something in Buffalo journalism and I couldn't even read the article because Buffalo journalism is trying to charge me to I'm like you are Buffalo you are the Buffalo newspaper you really really think I'm going to be paying to read your thing about Wendy Malick. I'm not going to do that. You put some ads on there and feed it to me. What the hell, Buffalo? You're sitting on a viral news story and you won't let it spread because you're putting a paywall on it. The people want to know about Wendy Malick, okay? Let us read it. Yeah, we get huge Wendy Malick news about being inducted into the Buffalo Journalist Hall of Fame or whatever the hell it was. And I don't

get to read the article. What the hell? It's inappropriate. I think that ultimately in this situation, I think it's totally plausible that like Sheena and Gretchen will we saw them saying like, how do we get you back on TV, Gretchen? And like, you know, like, but those are conversations that happen all the time. You know, every time I see Leah Black, I'm like, how do we get you back on TV? Because I want her to be a real housewife again, you know? I just, I don't, I think in this case, I, I am going to settle on that. I think that Katie just was being sloppy. And if she would just say, yeah, I said it because I didn't think it was that big of a deal i think that would be really beneficial but i think she's trying to double

down and like i just it's like i think it's time to like let the mouse go katy okay we're we're rooting for you but you've got to you got to you got to you got to do the right thing here not the right thing you got to like do the like same thing i think you know yeah and just admit that you said it oh my god but you know then again it is really taking away from the real thing which is that gretchen and slade were the one saying it at the dinner and now they're denying it probably not to get in trouble in production but even before that the real thing is that happened in the first place you know the tamara moment the naked wasted episode happened in the first place that was the real travesty and i think every every bit of blame belongs on tamara

and vicky and gina and everybody else just shut up that was mine million years ago okay do you want to talk about what i was doing when we started this podcast 13 years ago no you don't i see the facebook memories of it and it was terrifying it was terrifying okay and i don't want to have to watch you either. It's like watching your Facebook memories. I don't want to see your gumdrop hair or all your crazy shit that you were doing. By the way, your gumdrop hair has stuck in my head that you call for gum drop hair. I love that. I heard you just say that I'm so happy. That is stuck in my head. I've laughed about it all weekend. I don't want to see your gumdrop hair or you know, I don't want to see you 12 faces ago. I feel like I'm an inception. I need to be stuck. I need to stay in the present,

guys. It's the power of now. Okay. It's a self-help book. Read it. And also, let's also not forget. Also, let's not also forget. Let me just say also five more times in one sentence, but we're acting as if people were like, like between Gretchen and Sheena and Kiki and Katie, that people were like lighting bombs and breaking the internet, like, like putting this all out there to the universe for maximum exploitation. And the truth was, it was all just like, you know, people whispering and having little pun intended kikis and they were like, I heard I heard this, but no one was like being outright, like, oh, write a headline about this, do this. No one was like blatantly doing that.

And the person who made it a thing, the person who brought it into the public, because all of these people, despite knowing it, did not put it on to their various platforms. It was Tamara. Tamara is the one who did this. And she didn't even do it to say, I'm so upset at you, Gretchen, that you would say this. She did it solely to turn Gretchen against Katie. And it's like, she's so malevolence. I mean, it's wild. And it worked.

And as far as everybody else, you know, Katie, you're wrong for taking that conversation. You should know not to sit with Slate Smiley and take anything that Slate Smiley says seriously because Slate's a fucking liar and a crazy person. So you're bad for taking that and gossiping about it to a blogger. Gretchen, you're bad for marrying Slate in the first place. What a fucking loser. And for gossiping about that if you didn't want to get out and now lying about it. And who else is in this? Kiki Monique.

you shouldn't have been taking shit that you heard and then gossiping about it to other journalists. And then who's the other one? Dave Quinn, you shouldn't be calling Tamara and tattletailing. I mean, what the hell kind of magazine writer are you? You can't be tattletailing to all the housewives?

I demand integrity. So all of you are wrong. All of you. And it sucks that the person who's the most wrong in this, Tamara is the one that's winning. You a bunch of dummies. You gave Tamara a win. You gave Tamara a clean win. She's even doing well in comments now. People are like, we love you, camera. I mean, she's magic. She's a magician. I'll give her that. So you dummies just handed

her a win. I think also the nice thing that happened out of all this was that over the weekend, you know, it was like opening weekend for football. And Katie, there was like a, there's an Instagram story. And Katie has like landed some sort of Taco Bell partnership. There was definitely something that said like hashtag Taco Bell partner or whatever sponsor. con sponsored link sponsored content and uh everyone has just been delighting in the fact that katie wound up with a taco contract and emily didn't so oh my god you know second person on bravo because lindsay was the first i got the taco contract and now katie janella got a taco contract good for her you're going to go to taco belt and you're going to order like a chalupa

and then when you get to the counter they're going to give you nachos and you're going to be like um you said you were going to give me a chalupa i never said that yes you did no i never said that i ordered the Chalupa. No, you didn't. They're going to call Katie. Katie and they're going to call Kiki Monique's going to be like, um, they got a burrito. No, no, I didn't. I was going to gaslight you in Atlanta taco. You know what? I want to defend Kiki on one point here. I'm seeing a lot of people in the comments being like, she shouldn't talk to this person. She shouldn't have talked to that person. And like theoretically, sure, sure, theoretically. But the truth is like, you know, when you're with friends and especially for friends in like the Bravo world, you know,

Sometimes you might say something like, oh, like I went out with so-and-so when they were a mess. They were saying crazy shit. They were saying this or that. And you sort of like feel like there's like a sort of a code of, I think content creators, a bit where it's like we don't put it on the air, you know, set behind closed doors. You know, there is a certain amount of like note sharing that does happen. And like we don't put like everyone's shit on blast. People don't tell us stuff and then we just go and blab it for sure. But every day, we just sometimes you tell stories about like a real house that you went out with or something like that.

And I just don't think that Kiki should be like, like, hung, like crucified for talking, scoriated for talking to one of her friends and talking to like someone who else is sort of in the quote unquote industry and in the circle. Because we all do it, okay? We all do it. And what happened, what's bad is that someone then went and brought up to Tamara. And that's bad. And they should not have done that.

But like, I think, you know, like. So yeah. I mean, look, ultimately, I don't know. That's what Tamara said. But, you know, Tamara said that on Jeff's podcast, on Jeff's radio show. But, you know, look, yeah, she was messy. I think he was messy. But I also think that, yeah, you're allowed to gossip with your friends.

Right. And we know that she's friends with Jacques. And then Jacques probably went and according to Tamara went from Jacques to Dave Quinn to Dave Quinn to Dave Quinn. So then Jacques was messy and talked to Tamara about it. Also, my question is was Jacques the person who told Katie in the first place that, The paparazzi were hired by Heather because you know that Katie said she has connections to someone who knows all the paparazzi and isn't he daily mail. So is that Jacques too? I want to know.

Someone getting the answer. I don't know. Yeah, she was messy. But ultimately, Kiki did not, Kiki did not release the information. You know what I mean? She didn't come on the air and she didn't go on her Instagram. She didn't make it a thing. You know, she gossiped, which was wrong.

But Dave Quinn told Tamara and then Tamara made it a thing. So exactly. she was like she gossip but I think you know don't crucify the lady over it honestly I could imagine if I had found out like oh yeah and then I heard that like that Tamara had roofied Gretchen or Gretchen or Gretchen said that Tamara roofied her or something like that or even said they were drugs in the system I can imagine having cocktails with like I don't know like Courtney from two judge of girls and Mary too and being like you know what I heard I heard that is that crazy after all these years like she's you know that happened like ha ha moving on get some go cheese balls and if they went and they they release that, we'd be pissed, you know? Because you're supposed to be able to gossip. You're supposed to be able to gossip with your fellow, like, podcasters. You are allowed to.

And again, like, there's stuff that just stays with me and Ronnie. But, like, but stupid shit like that, because let's not forget, this is all just like a little thing, a little comment.

Stupid shit like that sort of flies around between all of the content creators all the time. And someone violated it. Someone violated the pact of the content creators. Yeah, you're all messy. You're all messy. All of you.

Shame. Shame. I just feel like. Dong. Yeah. Yeah. I just feel like I wanted to defend Kiki on that note a little bit. Okay.

Yeah. Because it does become kind of a feeding frenzy. You know, where I was like, well, fuck her. Yeah. I don't think it's that.

I think, I hope it's lesson learned. But also it's hard to be friends with all these people on Bravo, right? You know, you can't get too close with these people and then still report on them in a way that people are going to trust you. Like, you can't be going and hanging out with Janet.

And then being like, Well, I like Janet. She's nice. Like, Janet, like, you have to be able, if you're going to recap Bravo, you have to be able to say who sucks and who doesn't suck, even if you like them sometimes. Just like I'm doing now when I like you. You know, like you have to be able to do that. So I think it would be just very hard to be friends with all these people. You know, we've made arm's linked friendships with people. But we are very honest with them that we're going to still give them shit the next day. And I think that's extremely important to do because, you know, you can't be, you can't be going to standing up for people just because they're being nice to you. They're not stupid. They're trying. to make you say good things about them don't get tricked don't get tricked don't get tricked well on that note we're going to wrap up the uh the the the audio portion of crappy hour and before we do just a reminder that this episode of watcher crappins was brought to you by virgin voyages yes virgin thank you for the support and everybody out there thank you so much for being here and we will talk to you next time for those of you staying with us on youtube and instagram we will uh put a link in the comments right now for you to join us on camera.

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