Watch What Crappens - #3009 Great British Baking Show Part Two: Bread in the Face

Episode Date: September 24, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watcher Crappins ad-free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. What's what happens when there's so much than crap is. welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, we'll go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode. Next we go to, you know, when we did our cast breakdown, Ronnie, you said that Aaron, what's funny about him is that he always seems not very confident. And here's a great
Starting point is 00:00:50 example of it. He named his bread, Aaron's not for everyone monkey bread. Like, I mean, come on now. You got to like, like, lead with confidence. And the only named it that, because they suggested that he didn't name it, you're probably going to hate this, monkey bread, you know? I'm sorry that this is terrible, monkey bread. Aaron's Marmite is an acquired taste monkey bread. This does look good.
Starting point is 00:01:19 This has like, what are these like little Parmesan crisps on the top? Yeah, a little freako. Yeah, that looks really good. Well, obviously, it's sort of trying to grow, but it can't. And it's sort of fallen apart, much like you in every challenge we've had so far. It's very raw. And Proust says it doesn't even look like it's been in the oven, which is crazy because it's dark on the outside, but I guess they're talking about the insides.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah, I guess it was, he had an issue. He had an issue with his. Well, he was saying, it was funny because earlier he was like, you know, but making breads like a game of chicken because you want to, you know, you want to prove it as long as possible but then you don't want to have not enough time to bake it and it's better to be baked than it's better to be underproven than underbaked i was like well congratulations you're both underproven and underbaked oh poor guy um so that's it so now jasmine's making a face like sorry sorry and uh because they tell him like it's good but like the taste is good but it's
Starting point is 00:02:23 you're not cooked right. It proves like I can't even eat it, you know? And so Jasmine's making a face like, I'm sorry, you poor man. Please don't cry again. My shoulder, I just want a clean shoulder for one day. Please just keep them in. Please keep all the snot in your nose and all the tears in your eyes. All right, Leaky. Thanks. So now we go to a technical challenge. It's like, hello, bakers. Welcome back to the tent. It's some for your technical challenge. And today, your technical challenge has been set to you by the chairman of the board. And when I say bored, I mean breadboard, Paul Hollywood. Paul, what you have to say?
Starting point is 00:02:59 He's like, well, do you want me to tell you what you should put in Mediterranean dishes? We're like, no, Paul. Let it go, Paul, okay. So this is about planning and timing, you know, guys, the technical challenge will be judged blind. So judges have to leave. And Paul Hollywood would love you to make his take on that fast food classic, the glazing, the glazed ring donut. I love that this is, like Paul's advice is,
Starting point is 00:03:30 it's about planning and timing as opposed to any other bread thing. It's like, oh, you know what I love is an, you know, off-the-cuff, spontaneous, untimed bread experience. Yes. And Paul, you know, he sits with Prue and he does his little thing where they talk about what they're having them make. And Paul's monologue is that donuts are his guilty pleasure. And I love he says that as if it's like a big surprise.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Like, like, I have to, I hate to go against the grain, but donuts are my guilty pleasure. Like, wow, I never thought about that with a donut. I was, I never thought of totally one of the most popular foods in the world. It's not a guilty pleasure. It's a pleasure. Okay. Thanks for that bombshell revelation that donuts are a guilty pleasure for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:13 But guilty pleasure is like, you know what I really enjoy, giraffe hoof, you know, candy. It's like, no, that's discussed, like, no, you shouldn't be doing that. But this is not, this is not a guilty play. It's a fucking donut, Paul. It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:29 So, um, let's see. So they talk about how his ideal meal would be a load of hot dogs and donuts for dessert. Why are chefs like that? So many chefs are like that. I think because they make such good food all day that they just want a fucking hot dog, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I went to a really fancy.
Starting point is 00:04:49 dinner over the summer. There was like an Alinea pop-up. Alenia's was very, very, very, like three Michelin Star, Shishy, influential massively. It's like a, it's a big thing. And they really specialize in molecular gastronomy. And so like the first chorus was like, this is a Chicago hot dog.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And it comes and it's a cube of gelatin. But it has actually all the flavors of a hot dog. So it's like amazing. It actually tastes great, and it's amazing. You're like, how is this a hot dog? But also hilarious, because it's so chefy to be like a hot dog. And then you get served a clear cube of something with like some specs floating inside it. So chefy.
Starting point is 00:05:34 That's my little story about hot dogs and chefs. So they, you talks about donuts. And he talks about like a thing to look out for with a well-made donut is it has to have like a white band around the center. Which is funny because we always see that white band, but he is saying, like, if you don't have the white band, it means it's underproved. And I never knew that the white band was something I can actually judge a donut on. And anytime I'm given a tool to be more judgey about something, I'm always so grateful. So I can't wait to go to, like, donut shop and be like, sorry, these donuts are underproven. There's no white band around the center.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah, like when I think of white bands, I think of like the carpenters, you know? I've never really thought about it with donuts. But it's true. and he doesn't shut up about it either. This is like his new obsession where he's like, white band, white band, where's the white band? I hope it's not, oh, this wasn't proven enough. There's not a white bond on this one.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Fucking die in a fire. All right, where's the white band? Where's the white band? So, yeah, that becomes a big thing. And they do pretty well. There's supposed to be a certain little squiggly decoration on top. And some of them have to be strawberry glazed. So they have to do a ton of donuts, of course.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I think a dozen, right? Six strawberry and six just glazed. with a spiral circle decoration, which was funny because I thought spiral circle meant like those hypnotic like a circle that gets smaller and smaller
Starting point is 00:07:00 into the center. But in this case, it's like a loop-to-loop that goes all around the top. And I'm just saying that because later on when some people do like the hypnosis thing, they're the ones who are wrong. And I would have done the same thing. Yeah. It's like someone danced in the town that Footloose took place.
Starting point is 00:07:17 in. You know, they're like, oh, this isn't a proper squiggly. How could they? They went off a form. Not only that, but then they were like, then they were trying to be nice about it. Like, oh, well, this is a very inventive and autistic way about it. It's like, no, they were doing a spiral circle the way you said they should be doing a spiral circle. Yeah. This is not spiraling. This is just circles. It's just, I don't know, loop to loops. I don't know. It's not spiral circle. I'm sorry. This is not a spiral circle. I don't know what you call it, but it's not that. So we see, you know, the, not the judges, but the hosts go around and check on people. And Aaron's a little worried because he's Aaron, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:57 So he's like, oh, my God, I'm probably going to lose this whole thing today. I'll be thrown out. And Allison's like, oh, come on, love. It's all going to be great. You look good. You know what I mean. At least your heart, you know, thank God you're good looking. At least you're not ugly and sad.
Starting point is 00:08:11 You know, you can't be both. And he's like, thanks for the hug. You know, it's just like, I just need it to keep going. She's like, as long as you look good, babes, all right, just here's what I suggest. Don't get ugly. Stay hot. I always tell that to my nieces. Stay hot.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Stay hot. Stay adorable. You know, I don't want you ever coming back looking less adorable than you do now. Stay cute. You know, I shouldn't say stay hot to my nieces, but I do tell people, in general. She goes up to point, man, who is like, she's like, how you feeling and do it? How you feel in love? How are you doing Java?
Starting point is 00:08:43 while, and she's like, well, I just hope I'm not at the bottom again. She's like, oh, you're all at the back, okay? You can see what everyone's doing, you know? She's like, I don't cheat. You know, she, at school, no. She gets so serious. This is, like, giggly the entire time. And this is the first time she gets serious.
Starting point is 00:09:00 She's like, I don't cheat. I was like, okay, who broke this woman's heart? Who is going to want me to make their wedding dress if they think I'm a cheater? And Allison's like, not once, darling. Come on, come on. Did you do well at school then? from not cheating. And she goes, actually, no. I was terrible at school. Probably because they graded it on a curve and everyone else cheated. So then halfway through the challenge, um, they like
Starting point is 00:09:27 one of the, they have to like, they have to fry. That's like how many things should go in the fryer at once. You don't want to do too much because it'll lower the temperature, make it greasy. And then they are, they're frying and then they're glazing. And I, I'm sorry. I have to feel like if you're a baker, you should know how to glaze a donut. Like, you should just have the basic technique down. Like, you should just have that in your repertoire, right? Because they seem, some of them just seem like they've never, had no idea what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Some of them were like, like rolling it around the bowl of glaze. Some are spooning it. But some of, like, there are some people who did a great job, but other people just seems totally at a loss. Well, it seems like it would be baking, baking fucks with you because the simplest things are what mess you up every single time. It's always something simple. and glaze is just what
Starting point is 00:10:15 like powdered sugar and water right I mean it's not like isn't it don't you make it like kind of an icing you know like a light like a watery icing so it seems like it would be easy but I mess that shit up all the time whenever I have to do something like that I always make it too thick or too thin
Starting point is 00:10:31 and that's what they do they all make it too thick or too thin I feel like what I would do is I would put the donuts on a rack and pour the glaze over I don't think I'd put it into a bowl but then it wouldn't be even and you can't go over it with like a stick or something. You have to like dip it into the thing,
Starting point is 00:10:48 don't you, to make it kind of an even sheen? Let's see. I'm asking, I'm not telling you. No, I know. I'm judging how you would do it, even though I wouldn't know how to do it. But I'm wondering who do we think of the authority on this? Who do we think is going to knows exactly how it says dip the warm donuts.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Okay, this is according to like Google. Dunk the warm donuts into the glades. into the glaze, make sure to coat them fully, let the excess glaze drip off the doughna, then put them on a wire rack. Okay, so you dip and then you put them on the rack. Okay, well, you know what? Guess what? I don't know how to glaze a donut either.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Okay, I'm sorry. Well, you do now because we learned something today, and that's how this show is. We're very educational. So, yeah, everyone's kind of fucking up their glaze, and then now they can return to their dough. If they prove it for too long, it could develop large air bubbles and collapse when it's fried. basically, basically like me at the end of a Saturday night. All right. But if it's underproved, their donuts will be dense.
Starting point is 00:11:49 It's basically me on a Monday morning. All right, I'm making this too personal, right, babes. Back off. So now they all bring their donuts up. And I have to say, some of these donuts just look crazy. Because another issue is, like, how big of a hole do they cut out in the middle? Because they do too small of a hole, it's going to fill in. But too big, it's going to look crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And so these people all have just the craziest. looking donuts and the glaze is out of control. There's just like thick, thick, thick layers of glaze. Although low key, I probably would not be mad at like a thick layer of glaze because I love that glaze so much. But these donuts look certifiably bonkers. And now it's time to prove. And everybody's like, oh shit, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:12:31 They're like writing down calculations. And Paul's just in the back muttering, proving proving proving is everything. White band, white band, white band, white band, white band, white band, white band, white band, white band, white band, white band, white band, white band, white band, white band. so we now go to the judging and uh you know nadia's donuts look pretty good she's got the white band and her her glazing looks pretty good tom's his glaze his his his piping is like a little haphazard and his glaze is kind of like chunky it looks a little like looks like he kind of like lubed up his donuts a bit it looks like you put some vassaline on them yeah his um his squiggle lines look really good, though.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And poignant squiggle lines look the best, though. They're like just the right amount of melty. And actually, I think her glazing looks really nice, too, don't you? Her glazing is really good. She says at one point that she makes donuts all the time. But like, she's like, she already knows hers are underproved. See, me as like, as someone who, if I didn't know about the white band thing, I would see hers and be like, oh my God, these donuts look great. And I would just grab one and be so happy. And then I guess it probably would be tough. If it's underproven, it's going to be tough. It's not going to have that rise.
Starting point is 00:13:41 but like you would never like in a picture they look nice they look risen i mean they look like the most filled up if that makes it yeah like they look like a filled up tire as opposed to like a flatter tire i think that they look more like a cake donut that's the problem they look like a cake donut not a yeast donut oh okay so then we go to toby's don't toby's donuts and his are pretty inconsistent they actually look like all the glazed donuts look like different kinds of donuts yeah right yeah there's one that looks like it's like an apple cider donut one looks like it's a white frosted donut like they're all they're all crazy a bagel donut um okay and then we see leslie's donuts leslie's donuts look cray cray and i love leslie but these look these look crazy
Starting point is 00:14:33 they're dark brown and then there's so much really thick glaze on them and it's just kind of splooged all over it and then her piping is is too much well it's just a shame you know errands are also a little all over the map because some of his look quite good but then others are like not they're just and his oh and he oh he does his his his decoration did he just do like little circles he did like Olympic rings around the top of his yeah he did rings yeah he did rings and then one of them is dark brown but it's the only one which is really weird I don't know what that one got stuck. Jessica's are a hot mess.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I mean, like one looks like a chunky onion ring. And like the glazes all over the, all over the place. Her decorations are crazy. She did like, hers is just bad. Yeah, they're all different sizes. She's like, but in Uganda. You're like, okay, okay, Jessica. This is how they love them in Uganda.
Starting point is 00:15:32 It's like, okay, you've been to Uganda. Okay, we got it. So then we go to Jasmine. Jasmine's a great. I mean, they look all exactly the same. They've all got a big, fat, white band. And she is the one who did the non-traditional piping. And she did just big spirals instead of squiggles, which they are, you know, shocked by it first.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Paul's like, look, someone's tried to be clever. Yeah. Look at them trying to be clever doing spiral circles when we merely ask for spiral circles. I will not have originality in donut arts. Damn it. And Bruce's like, I'll get over it. You know, she's like, I think it looks really good. You know, it's not quite the decoration we told you, but it's lovely.
Starting point is 00:16:18 You know, listen, I've just loved walking around talking about everyone's whole sizes and how they've glazed their holes. I mean, to me, this has just been an ideal judging. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. I'm going to need a donut also, us very soon. Then we go to Ian's, and Paul's like, well, overall. all these don't look too bad. I'm like, are you looking at the same donuts I'm looking at? These look bad. They look like they were flung at a wall. I mean, one has, one almost looks like a shoe.
Starting point is 00:16:50 You're right. I see which one you're talking about. And one looks like it's like leaning. It's like a tower that's now leaning over, which is, which is weird. They're all different shapes. He does have the white band, which is really all he cares about, I think. But I think they're trying to make mullet happen. Like they really, really like this. guy. Yeah, which I mean, I like him too. I mean, he seems like a nice guy, but, you know, there's always one in competition shows that it seems like the judges are rooting for. And I think for whatever reason, it's mullet. They're like really, really, they're like, we've never had, we need to make history. We need the first mullet wearer to win.
Starting point is 00:17:26 We need the first short king to win British bakeoff. Yeah. Natalia, I mean, like, we, look, we love it, Natalia. Every time she tells the story about Ukraine, it's so heartbreaking. and I'm rooting for her but these donuts are they are crazy these are the craziest of the bunch I would actually say so far I don't remember what the rest looked like but well I just the way glazed the glazed ones yeah the glaze is too thick so they look like powdered donuts in a way they're just white yeah um okay so now um he's Paul says they're a mess
Starting point is 00:18:02 you know it's time for a commercial it's time for a crap commercial All right, so ranking 10th place Poiman, she lost, which sucks. Overfried, undapproved. Ninth is Leslie, 8, Natalia, 7,
Starting point is 00:18:23 Jessica, 6, Ian, 5, Tom, 4, Toby, 3, Aaron, 2, Nadia. She got closed, and I was happy for Nadia, because she's had a couple of stinkers. Yeah. But the first was Jasmine, who ended up winning with her non-traditional spiral.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Wow. Good for her. Good for her. I mean, her clever spiral. Her clever spiral. I think it helps, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:49 because they remember it. They've just looked at a bunch of misshaping, squiggly things, and they remember the spirals. You hypnotize them. Yeah. It works.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Yeah, exactly. Hypnotized. So, okay, now it's time for the judges to talk about where this is all going. So I was like, well, that breadweek, dread week, let's talk about some of the bakers.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Let's look at Aaron. And I was like, oh, Aaron's a bit of a disaster in the sig. Didn't he, in the sig, that's short for signature. You catch what I'm putting down. And Paul's like, yeah, but he's not so bad in the tech. But then they're like, like, yeah, point, man. I mean, he's like, I just don't think that poem and had enough salt in the signature. And what she was saying about me not having a milk loaf in my book.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I mean, does she even read these things? I mean, what's the point of coming out to the show if you don't do your proper research, right? which is just get rid of her right there on the spot. And Natalia is also on the bottom because her signature was supposed to be savory, but it was sweet. But on the bright side, Ian smashed it. Mullet, mullet for the win. And Paul says, yeah, you know, he did really well on the signature, but he was sixth in technical. So he slipped down.
Starting point is 00:19:57 One person's doing extremely well, and it's Jasmine. Because she won the technical and she did well in the signature. We didn't even say who won the technical, did we? Jasmine, when? Jasmine. No, you did. You did say. I did.
Starting point is 00:20:10 But they're spiral. Her non-traditional, clever spiral. Oh, this is the technical, right? The signature, they don't say who's the winner, right? Yeah. So now it's time for the showstopper. And they have to make,
Starting point is 00:20:22 it's like the judges would like you to make a fantastic celebratory sweet bread with at least three tiers. And it has to be an enriched bread dough. And it should be a celebration that has meaning for you. So they have five hours to, make giant red towers yes okay so let's see what they start doing okay so aaron is doing a celebration of life for two friends who passed away which is actually really sweet but it's also very erin to be like i'm going to pick the most depressing things um but it is sweet um and they were
Starting point is 00:21:00 always supportive of him getting on to bake off and now he's here and then uh he's doing a bunch of flowers so why is he doing flowers is it like um it's like it's like renews like grow it's like a memorial yeah it's like you know like when you think about someone who's passed you like to think of like flowers and beautiful things that they're maybe sending from the other side and you know especially when they come attached to a stack of four gallons so of all the money they owed me are like you know whatever of all the euloges you can make about their Breds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Okay. So then we go to Noel says Aaron's ambitious French coron bread. Coron will be festooned with a cascade of flowers and filled with
Starting point is 00:21:50 pistachio, mazapain, cherries, and apricots. Okay, Nadia is also doing a French celebration and she's doing a wedding cake, a French wedding cake, a brioche dough with raspberry cream patissier inside and she just loves weddings and she's like i've never been
Starting point is 00:22:08 married but i love weddings yeah and else's like it never you got you got a boyfriend and she's like yes and not he not put a ring or yeah she's like no what's his name daniel i'm what are you playing at daniel what are you playing at i remember there's no ring on anyone could take her shit i get off the pot daniel all right we're done waiting for you over here He's like, you don't understand She smells like garlic all the time Okay, we're in therapy over it If she cannot reduce her garlic consumption
Starting point is 00:22:39 I am not giving her a ring He's like she won't stop showing up at wedding She's not invited to It's so embarrassing It's just Jody from Miami You know, as long as you speak to someone About your garlic Then I'll put a ring on it
Starting point is 00:22:54 But until then I can't So next up is Ian And he's going to be pronouncing Sawin, which is the Irish precursor to Halloween. So he's doing like jack-lanterns in dark colors, and they end up telling him, they're like, I mean, it's kind of like Halloween-y. That's the point. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:23:17 He also describes Salon. I never heard of Salon, and he says, he's like, Saul, they used to have these little turnips that they would carve terrifying faces into. And I just love that there's a holiday where you carve a scary face into a turnip. I do too. I love a good affordable holidays. I know. I love that.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Like we spend so much money putting up stuff for Halloween and for Christmas and everything. It's like, just give it. I love, I feel like the Irish have got it right. Just get a turnip. Get into life and you're done. You're done. Okay. So he wants to make a horrifying cake and scare the judges a wee bit.
Starting point is 00:24:00 And it does look crazy his. It looks like a witch's, I don't know, kind of a, well, there's a bonfire at the top and like trees all over it and corn cobs or corn stalks or whatever and fall leaves. So let's see. It looks very magical. It's called, it's a so wonderful time of the year. He should have said it's the most so wonderful time of the year. Come on, bro. Some wonderful time.
Starting point is 00:24:28 It's the most. So wonderful, so wonderful time of the year. Well, it's Christmas, though. But the joke is that it's, the joke, darling, the joke is that it's a Christmas song that you're using for Sarwin, which is basically Halloween. I'm a, don't you understand about my creative vision here? It's like the Nightmare before Christmas, but the night before the night before the Christmas. Christmas is a religious holiday in Halloween is Satan. You got turn, okay?
Starting point is 00:24:56 I will not make sense. How about like, I mean, turn up for. what? How about that? I mean, why can't we? Oh, I've got the entire marketing team here for Sarwen and I'm looking for good ideas and this is the best you give me. Come on now. It's the number one turn of all day of the year. Um, so then we go. So leading the marketing team for Salman. So yeah. So we, who's obsessed with Christmas. They're like, okay, for Halloween this year, why don't we put little reindeer that are bleeding? It's like, that's Christmas. That's the point. It's Christmas, but it's Halloween, you know.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Have you never seen? Santa Claus coming down the chimney, but he's getting burned to death by the actual fire. You know, that's what I'm talking about. Let me tell you something. When you see the Christmas decorations going up on October 15th, I don't care if it's Halloween time. Christmas has already started, all right? So get a crampus into this cake and be done with it already. Okay, let's go over to Tom, okay? Tom is dedicating his bread to his boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And because his favorite time of the year is the autumn. I don't care. Don't give it to your boyfriend. People are giving it to dead people and all sorts of important things. Your boyfriend gets enough. Listen, also, like, you can do better than this. Like, he clearly has a vision that he wants to an autumn cake. So he's like, I dedicate it to my boyfriend who loves autumn.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I feel like you got, like, people doing dedications that are much more meaningful. Say, because in autumn was when we had our first date, and I'll always remember it was under the trees and leads were changing, but not like my boyfriend, he loves autumn. It's like, yeah, this is like a modern reality show. You're supposed to cook your trauma into the cake. I mean, and that's a lot of what's happening. And we see it on top chef.
Starting point is 00:26:40 We see it on all of them. You know, every story has to be like, I made this pair of capri pants because I had an aunt that passed away and loved capri pants. I'm done to getting these capri pants to my aunt. You know, that's what it is. You build your trauma into it. You know, it's not like my boyfriend loves leave.
Starting point is 00:26:58 What the fuck, bro? Yeah. Also, I love when he says, he's like, yeah, so my boyfriend loves autumn. So mine is just all about that changing time of year when all the leaves fall off the tree. And Paul goes, how are you doing that in bread? Which is funny. I'm funny that after all of these years, this is the one that stumps Paul. Because people will be like, I love octopuses.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And I want to do an octopus, but it's also on a rocket ship and it's going to be dangling. And I'll also love when light bulbs turn on and off. on and off. So I'm going to do a bread that has a flashing lap bulb and an octopus on a swing. And he's like, all right. But now this guy's like, he's like, I want to represent autumn. Just make sure it's proved, you know, well proved. But it's like, I want to do something that represents autumn. He's like, how are you going to do that? Are you going to do that? Oh, you're like, well, are you going to make a, a bunch of bread that's going to sort of like orange? How do even do that? Come on. He's going to do a bunch of leaves. That's how he's going to do it. He's like,
Starting point is 00:27:55 All right. It's going to be cinnamon. It's basically going to be big cinnamon buns put together as a three-tiered cake with some leaves on there. Proofs like, well, I hope it tastes as good as it sounds like garbage. But guess what? I love eating garbage. That's my guilty pleasure. A real guilty pleasure. Garbage. Yeah, Toby's having some trouble with the magic word of the day, proving. So we're all worried. We're all worried for him. And then we go to Jasmine. And Jasmine's the drawing is gorgeous. It's a, it's a, the midsummer flower crown sweetbread. And it's just really intricate and multi-layered and has flowers all over it and vines all over it. This one looks really pretty with cinnamon and cardamom.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Yes. And she's, I don't know if she says specifically what she's dedicating it to, but this is when she tells us that she has, she has alopecia and she started losing your hair at 12. And she only recently stopped wearing wigs a few years ago and only very recently has started to actually like not having a wig. so this is the irony here is that she is plating plating how do you say it plating plating but she's braiding
Starting point is 00:29:01 she's a plat plate but she's braiding the the the the the bread which is an irony because she has no hair to parade yes so it's braided so yeah so yeah so yeah so by the way Tom you want to rethink your my boyfriend likes fall dedication because I mean like come on now Jesus I'll tell you what, your trauma score is zero, Tom, okay? Negative five. Wow, gay loves fall. I've never seen that happen before. Gays famously never have any opinions on fall.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Gays never lose their mind over fall, ever. So then we see other bakers, Noel's telling us that, you know, these need to be carefully shaped, okay? So Noel is like, Polak sings very neat. or I can seem sweating if it's not neat. And Aaron's like, well, then how does he cope with you? Oh. He's like, yeah, he doesn't even know what I am.
Starting point is 00:30:01 He's not going to be honest. He's been trying to get me fired for years. So that's how he feels with me. He's always coming up a little broom. He sprayed me in the face with Windex this morning. That's how he tries to deal with me, all right. So now we go with Jessica. And she's doing something really cool,
Starting point is 00:30:18 which is that she's tying a string around her bread that when it proves, it's going to make these creases that will make it look like each layer looks like a pumpkin. And she is doing a rain dance celebration sweet bread. And she says that she works in communities that are mainly focused on agriculture and when she was in Uganda. And they experienced a lot of drought. And so when the rain would come, the women and children would leave their houses and dance.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And so here she has people dancing around a giant stack of pop. pumpkins and hashtag guiyanda basically had like yeah she's like I was going to do something that was really meaningful I can remember a day we call it the day of lightning I'm we lost a lot of people that day unfortunately but I just decided to stick with the rain pot so it's going to be delicious I was like okay I can use a little more trauma but I'm liking yours at least you're going to be the other guy you know it's also like a better way of doing the autumn thing it's like oh my boyfriend loves autumn and she's like well I've got a stack of pumpkins because people prayed for it with rain dancing when I was in Uganda.
Starting point is 00:31:24 It's like, they said the same thing, but like, hers is like, well, I was able to tie on this whole thing. Look, I've got fall too, but it's actually meaningful. How about that? So just to summarize, we have, okay, my stack of bread is dedicated to my dead friends. Mine is to Ukraine, my homeland, which is being torn up by war. Here I went to an impoverished community that would have to do rain dances. Here, I lost my hair at a young age. And here, my boyfriend likes fall.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yep. So then we go to Toby, who's doing a belt buckle with a snowman on top. What was his? Oh, the bread that stole Christmas. You know what, this one's down there with this one also annoyed me because he's like, I absolutely love Christmas. I always have. We stockpile Stalin every single, every day. We love Christmas with Stalin. We say, why does Santa have to come down the chimney? why can't it be Stalin? Stalin should come down and deliver gifts. You know it's really meaningful to me? Stalin. I just want a cake that celebrates Stalin.
Starting point is 00:32:31 No, the reason why I got annoyed with this is like, wow, you're a British person who loves Christmas. Just, I mean, this is almost as exciting to know that someone finally announces that they think that a donut is a guilty pleasure. I love Christmas. Oh, so his house snowflakes, a snowman. a belt it's wearing a belt um and i resent belts so whatever so we go to a little high by the way i just want to say the belt is a little high for a waistband this is a high waisted
Starting point is 00:33:01 it's a high it is or yeah yeah that belt should be one not one tier lower i'm just going to say that right now yeah and you know what i have to say watching the show i don't dislike toby but i'm annoyed with him in the recap i'm finding myself getting annoyed with him as we got through the notes but he's also he's fine it's also funny because we're ragging up on Toby and Tom for coming up with like very basic dedications, but meanwhile, Nadias was like, I love weddings. So she also gets, you know what, retroactively, let's ding her too. Yeah, but Natalia's never been married and she really wants to be married.
Starting point is 00:33:36 So it is kind of a, you know, it is kind of a tragic cake because she's never had a wedding. And she's like, but I'm obsessed with weddings. No one's ever asked me. So I'm just going to make a wedding cake. Maybe it's my turn. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride, that sort of thing. All right, this one's called always the bridesmaid, never the bride. please, Paul, will you marry?
Starting point is 00:33:52 This cake is called Paul, please marry me. I mean, come on, anyone, please. I'm going to stack 27 little loaves together. I'm dedicated to the Catherine Hegel movie, 27 dresses. When she went to 27 different weddings. So, she's going to make, yeah, a wedding cake bread. It's covered in lace, and, you know, she's probably going to try and catch around. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Oh, I'm sorry. I was talking about Nadia. Nadia has a wedding cake, but this is actually Natalia who's doing a Ukrainian wedding cake. so it's also like got like oh sorry as no but it's like I think we're saying the same thing regardless because okay wait we're still talking about you were still talking about you were still talking about you were still talking about Nadia but as it turns out didn't Nadia make a wedding cake because she loves weddings and that's when Allison was like what's it both fun got I proposed to you oh yeah I guess so okay so anyway I've just fucked it up in my own head but yeah um Natalia is the one making this
Starting point is 00:34:47 Lacey cake. Yeah, you're right. Three generations, Korovi. Korovi, sweet bread. Natalia's traditional Korovi wedding bread will be made from enriched dough packed with butter and flavored with orange cinnamon and rum, or from a family recipe passed down to her from her mom. Yes. So it's like a generational Ukrainian bread, which also feels like, sort of like, you know, like makes you so sad because you're thinking of Ukraine and all, everything that's being destroyed over there. And then we go over to Leslie's like, I'm doing one, too. You're like, what? She's like, I'm doing a Coravoy bread as well.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Like, why are you doing a Corvite? She's like, because I want to. I mean, you shouldn't say that, but it's just kind of funny. Like, Natalia's is like, mine was passed through generations. And Leslie's like, I'm just going to make it. I'm doing it because I love hair, really, the end of the day. Just love doing hair. So I'm just going to see a little bit of culture for this one.
Starting point is 00:35:45 You don't mind, do you? So this one looks pretty. It's got little flowers all over it as well. Lots of flowers on these big cake things today. Leslie's hoping a core of our sweet bread enriched with rum soaked raisins. Blood oranges and cinnamon will hold its own. So she's doing it for her granddaughter. She's like, I'm going to make a cake for my granddaughter.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Soak it in rum. Start her early. her first birthday we had a daisy theme and we all got shit-faced on rum so there we go so now we go to poyman and um poyman is also using a lot of flowers and poyman bought her house and there's a rose tree outside her house and alison is a stunning story like your first house that you could buy for you so that is a beautiful story she was yeah i cut the rose bush down hated it but um i'm going to make it into a cake anyway yeah she's like yeah i hate that she's like yeah she's like yeah roses are not good for your love life she's but why don't you just put it around back put the rose bush by robin fashway doesn't work it but in the back we all know there's a non feng shui zone in the back of the house okay so when things don't work out inside the house you put in the back it's like the left it was like the spillover by the way nardia you don't have rose
Starting point is 00:37:12 bush in your front yard do you darling right holding you back a bed. So the point man's like, well, then my boyfriend at the time bought me a plant, rose plants, and planted at the back garden, and now we got married. So I think it's broken. So what? So what, what are you going on about the Frenchway then? So it worked out then?
Starting point is 00:37:31 Why are you getting so mad at roses then? Don't understand this. She ridded herself of roses and then found love and brought roses back. That's so swamped. So this is a cocktail wedding sweet bread. A lot of wedding stuff. today. Shredded coconut glazed cherries.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Looks nice. Looks kind of plain compared to all the other ones. It's like a cake with roses. And Paul wants to know her method of rose making and she uses a circle cutter and he's like, you do. So you line them all up and then roll it.
Starting point is 00:38:06 She's like, yes. And he's like, hmm, impressive. But he says it in that way like, you're out of here. You're out of here. You're not proving enough. Disgusting. So now they're all just cooking and things are just happening.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Tom has made these little turd-shaped things. And Allison's like, that's the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. You're really making tears. You're going to serve them to it. It's like, no, it's going to be a log. It's like, oh, no, it's disgusting. Smells nice, though. Actually, it smells quite lovely.
Starting point is 00:38:37 They do look like little poops for a stupid non-story tree thing. So everybody bakes, get there, you know, do all the, getting the stuff out of the oven. Let's serve it to the judges, people. Let's serve it, okay? So here is my issue. I'm sort of done with Paul when it comes time to, when they bring up the show stopper,
Starting point is 00:38:58 why does he always lean on that table like he's about to go do a 50-yard sprint? He always like eats it. And then he just like hunches over and he braces himself on the table. Like he's about to take off from the starting blocks. I'm like, can you, can you like, why? Why do you do this to yourself and to the table every single time? You're going to knock that table over one day. I'm a leaner.
Starting point is 00:39:20 So I stand for, I mean, it's so hard. Some of us just have a hard time just being alive. It's on time. It's like just standing up as fucking hard. I'm sorry. I will lean on anything anywhere. I'm a leaner and that's it. Okay?
Starting point is 00:39:37 And also I'm a cleaner because I have time to lean. So that's how it works. Okay. So let's start off with Jasmine's midsummer. flower crown this turned out to be very gorgeous look at that gorgeous look at that shine look at that color the amber hues the dark I just want to stick my mouth on that thing the braiding is perfect she put these like flower like tendril things through the braids I mean it just looks great cardamom cinnamon it's great it looks wonderful Toby you know it's like
Starting point is 00:40:14 Toby's thing here, he makes, it's kind of funny because he put like a little snowman on top of his strange sort of like sandworm-esque stack of bread. It's funny because the bread itself looks like a snowman and then he put a snowman on top of the snowman. Yeah. This is, it's not, this is not a triumph for me. I mean, it's, if I had made it, it would look great because I'm like not a bread baker, be like, look at what I made. You all be like, whoa. But if you're like on this show, this is like a little. silly looking. Yeah, it's silly. It's not
Starting point is 00:40:49 terrible. The snowman's ridiculous. Yeah, it's leaning. Yeah. It's giving more pilgrim than it is. I feel like I'm just hating on Toby for no reason. But like this braiding around it, isn't that just fondant that he just made really thick ropes of fondant and tied it? Is that what he did?
Starting point is 00:41:06 Like braided it off. Where's the hammer and the sickle? I mean, this is supposed to be a Stalin cake. Come on now. Let's do some onion domes. Come on. Come on. But I do think that by having that buckle so high, it reads more like Pilgrim than it does Santa. Yeah. It should have been lower.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And honestly, get rid of that green braid or put the green braid down with the red braid. Put the buckle one tier lower. And that's if you want to put on another ring, make that like Santa's beard or something like that. Yeah, I agree with you. Or like some sort of like Christmas crown. It's not like a Christmas crown. Oh, yeah. That's a cute idea.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah. It's not like a huge fail or anything, but it's, yeah, it's not great. This one gets no respect. Tom's, you know, Tom's boring story cake, I think is getting dissed because his story is so lame. But I actually kind of like his. I think it's really pretty. It looks delicious. Yeah, I mean, like big cinnamon rolls all put together and glazed and the leaves look nice and the tree looks really good. It ended up not looking like poo. So I think it looks nice. It looks delicious. I mean, you can really, he's got great color on those cinnamon rolls. Like you can tell. It's got like a nice crackle to it. They think it looks stunning.
Starting point is 00:42:18 It's orange cinnamon and pecan. Like I'm sure it looks, they love it. They love the way it tastes. It's gorgeous. It's gorgeous. It's just, you know what? The lack of soul behind it really bothers me, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Well, I get it. But, you know, I don't mind the lack of soul all the time. At the end of the day, I really don't like all the traumas associated with every little thing. I do kind of respect when people, you know, can just make something just because it's good. You know, it's like on top Jeff when they got mad at that guy, the Italian guy for not being like meaningful enough. And he's like, I just want to make good food. Like, do I have to have a fucking trauma with every little thing?
Starting point is 00:42:54 And I kind of agree with that. But once you get used to the trauma part and people making everything so personal, it does seem lacking when there's not that, you know. Like that recipe thing I read earlier. When they don't share their trauma, I suddenly get mad. Like, you're literally never going to win with me. And I get that. No. That's my trauma.
Starting point is 00:43:11 That's what I would make a cake called never. winning with me okay just make a cake dedicated to my therapist um well now we have well fed it's just like a person a well fed person on a cruise it would just be like you know what i would have a cake that looks like a like a small little gay closeted gay boy and it's like here it is here's the trauma well if i made a if i made a cake based on my therapist it would actually be cake i'm like hey guys it's a cake that looks like a cake kicked cake. So this is Jessica's rain dance celebration. And so I, you know, obviously the meaning behind this is very lovely about working in these communities in Uganda and the rain dances
Starting point is 00:43:53 and everything. But what it looks like is just like a, it does, the, the bread doesn't totally look like pumpkins. Maybe the top one does, but it just looks like people trying to climb a mountain of pumpkin or a mountain of loaves of bread. It's like some weird, surreal. And we have like, it's cool. She made like the rain. I don't know, it all, it looks just a little janky. itself doesn't look good the breads don't look good and then the little people it looks like one of the people is trying to stop one of the clouds that is tipping over from hitting its friend and killing it like it's like ah what's out and the other one's about to die um but you know i like all the little corn cobs and what are those bell peppers why are their bell peppers showing up oh they're carrots i think they're carrots yeah um the uh she says that this is japanese milk bread mm-hmm Well, Paul, did you, are you going to say, oh, yes, that's on page 73 of my cookbook. No, of course you're not because you don't have a recipe for Japanese milk bread. Just have a loaves that are made with milk.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Okay, who's next been? Leslie, so this is Leslie's, um, her Coravai sweetbread that's dedicated to her granddaughter. Her rum-soaked raisin sweet bread dedicated to her five-year-old daughter. It's cute. I mean, it's a little lopsided, but the daisies are cute. I don't understand what these yellow tendrils are coming out at the side. It's like little spider arms. Yeah, I think what's kind of hurting this one is the decoration.
Starting point is 00:45:25 It's the flowers and the whatever cornstalks. Why is everybody making, what are they? I don't know what they are. But, yeah, I think that makes it look weird. I think it makes it look lopsided. Or is it lopsided? I can't tell if it's a visual. It looks lopsided.
Starting point is 00:45:41 But they love the bake on it. it. They say the texture's great, flavor's great, so it's actually a successful loaf. The daisies look wonderful. I don't know what these like yellow laurel leaves are that are sort of draped all around it. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that either, but they love it. So that's good for her and I like her. So you go, Leslie. Natalia's is a little odd. Hers is also a Corvai. This is the one that's generational. And I think it's cool. She put like a, she made like lace that like wraps around the loaves, which I like a I like a modest loaf that's like um I would like to put on some I'd like to put on
Starting point is 00:46:19 some lace please before I'm presented to the judges um but overall the wrapping is all off like she's like wrapped it and then she just kind of cuts it in the middle here it's like it's just kind of hanging off and then up here it's like layered but then it's all hanging all out over each other so it's a good idea but it's kind of sloppy yeah and there's like weird gaps in between the loaves because they're sort of like sitting on top of other things. So there's like like weird kind of caverns that are in there that just don't look. It doesn't look like what is kind of cool? What is kind of cool?
Starting point is 00:46:53 Are those real flowers that she just decorated it with real flowers? Because that looks like a real sunflower, right? That looks like a real sunflower. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. You know what this show. You never know.
Starting point is 00:47:03 They don't they say the bread's claggy though. And guess what it needed? More proving. Guys, proving. It's all in the proving. it's bread week. Come on, Pruvers. But yeah. What's her button says claggy a lot.
Starting point is 00:47:18 This is where she enters her claggy phase. She's like claggy, claggy, claggy, claggy, claggy, claggy, claggy. I'm in my claggy. Clagg, yeah. Nadia's looks beautiful. This is her marriage ghetto, her sweet bread marriage ghetto. Although I seem to remember from this side, it looked a little jankier. But from above, which we have in a photo, shout out to our note taker who put
Starting point is 00:47:41 photos in our notes truly oh my god so that's why we are like that's why we have such if we didn't have these photos we'd be like uh i think it looked good this would have been a 10 minute recap that's for sure but yeah being able to look at it like this is is crazy this looks really really beautiful it's a different shape than the other ones it has the actual cake from above looks like a flower just how it's shaped with all the petals she made all the flowers she made with her circle cutter even though Paul probably is resentful of the idea look beautiful. They look like real roses. They look so pretty. Yeah. And she's put some sort of like raspberry
Starting point is 00:48:19 cream musilina in the middle. And Paul like gets on his fingers. She's like, oh, by the way, that won't come off your fingers. So apparently it's a real sticking point for my boyfriend. It's like, every time I touch your body, I get stained. And I'm like, well, I'm sorry, I'm a baker. And I know, we've had a lot A lot of counselling. That's why I want Mary, love. Stop with the red fingers. Come on.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Stop using so much dye and garlic. I keep getting Nadia confused. I'm getting the names confused still because it's our first time recapping it. But, okay, so then we go over to point in. Hers looks great. It's very refined, actually. It's like a very understanding. wedding cake
Starting point is 00:49:08 it looked lovely it looks very lovely and they really like it there's a really strong coconut flavor those cherries it's actually it's a very very successful bread tower for her yeah and what a successful
Starting point is 00:49:25 bread tower you did you know what I'm so proud of you everybody loves a bread tower now come on all right next we go to our show one so wonderful time of the year, pre-Halline cake. Let's check it out, shall we? It's a little strange looking. I'm not going to lie. It's like just a stack of strange colored breads. The bottom one
Starting point is 00:49:51 when it came out actually looked very lovely, but now it's stacked and cracked. And there's like, the turnips are all sad. But then there's also whimsical like moons and stars and clouds. And then there's like some attempt at a bonfire at the top. It's just a strange one. I think. I think, this looks really nice actually for what he's going for. I mean, it does look like a Halloween cake to me. I think the bonfire thing is just, it's like tilting, so it makes the bread looks like it's lopsided. A lot of this is just like the decorations are making things look lopsided, I think. It's like pulling your vision in a weird way. But I mean, I like this one. Well, unfortunately, it has a lot of issues because Paul says it's underbaked sadly.
Starting point is 00:50:30 It's like, oh, it really is like, as in you underbaked it in a very sad way. It's underbaked sadly. I would love if you could find a way to be more charismatic in your failures, honestly. And guess what? Certainly under-proved. Way to go. Didn't do the one thing I ask of you is prove your bread. Way to prove my point, under-prover. I believed in you, Mollett.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I've been fighting for you, Mollett. Proved, you've got something to add to it. We'd like to use your new favourite buzzword. Plaggy. Claggy. claggy, sorry. I thought you were referring to sloppy holes, which is what I've said a lot in this episode as well.
Starting point is 00:51:15 There was a, there was talking the donut part where someone was saying, I think it was Aaron who was coming up now about like he's like, I don't have preference about whole size. Okay. That's what they all say. Okay, so here we go to Aaron's Flowers in Paradise Sweet Bread. This one, we don't even really see very well. it's just covered in flowers.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Like the whole thing is gorgeous. This one to me, I was like, this one should have been one Starbaker. It was absolutely beautiful. It also had a really like heartfelt message behind it, a story behind it. They seemed to really love the way it tasted. This was just, it was wonderful.
Starting point is 00:51:53 It was really so nice. And, you know, Paul and Peru said it was like, Paul was like, what a great tribute. Well done. And by the way, thanks for proving it. So, did Mullet, did you hear me say that in the background? No, in the back. You hear me say proving.
Starting point is 00:52:08 That's what you're supposed to be doing. Stupid. Mullet failure. Okay, so here's my question about this. Again, are these real flowers? Because... These, I don't think, are real. I don't think these are real.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Well, but look, let me show you another angle of this picture because it's like crazy. Home-unclose window. No, those are not real. Look at this. It's poppy seeds. They put poppy seeds in the center. no those are not real i guess right now but some of them look let me show you i think some of them
Starting point is 00:52:42 are like some of them are candy like the ones up here are are icing but these ones are not icing look how they're all floppy these roses and things i think these are real real plastic flowers you know what i mean i think you've been fooled i think you've been fooled by big flower the big flower industry well it's rough to do to fool me pull one over on me but they've done it okay so they all think it's you know astonishing
Starting point is 00:53:12 and so he's he's gonna cry but this time it's like you know a good one it's a good cry it's an earned cry yeah it's an earned cry yeah so people hug him and stuff because it's that show he's not told to shut up and cry outside like Nina would probably tell him on project runway
Starting point is 00:53:28 and I love when people cry on project runway Nina just squinted her eyes and nods like, hmm, okay. Can I go on a cigarette break for this part? Project runway, which is still abysmal this season, I'd like to add. Yeah, you turn me off of that. I didn't even watch it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:45 But I've seen a lot of the clothes online that they're posting, you know, people post in the Reddit thread about it. And I'm like, oh, not looking great. Yeah, yeah. They've improved a little bit in terms of their, in terms of like the clothing they've made. But like the realities, the reality is shown. of it all is just so contrived now
Starting point is 00:54:02 when they get into these stupid fights and they make them like go after each other in a way that's just so not the spirit of the show like I'm like embarrassed for the producers who have ruined Project runway but you know of course I'm still watching it. Anyway now they're judging and the question is
Starting point is 00:54:18 did point man do enough to save herself because she's sort of the comeback kid and she did a really good you know show stopper but she really she really flopped hardcore in the first two challenges So, now it's time. She's out.
Starting point is 00:54:34 They get rid of her. Who's the Starbaker? Is it? Oh, it's Jasmine. Yeah, Jasmine killed it this week. So Jasmine Starbaker, Poyman is done. And Mollett lives to see another week. Yeah, Mollett lives to Mollett on, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:50 So God bless his heart. So that's it for the Great British Baking Show. Nice two-hour recap there for you. Practically three hours because we did the cast. preview right before this and Tranjew on this episode. Yeah. We were like, we love British Bake Off. That'll be a great easy day for us, like 10 hours later.
Starting point is 00:55:09 But it was easy as far as talking about. It was super fun to talk about with you. Let us know in the comments what you guys want us to taste test next time. Yeah. We're having fun. We want to just sample different things and just watch TV and talk about it. Thanks to everyone for being here. Yeah, sample platter.
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