Watch What Crappens - #3013 RHOC S19E12 Part 2: Self Defense Classless

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

This is part 2 of a 2-parterReal Housewives of Orange County spends time at a self defense class where Tamra and Gretchen have it out over the Nelson rumors and Gretchen pulls a hilarious prank where she sicks a fake carjacker on her friends. You can watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watcher Crappins ad free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. and welcome to watch our crap ends a podcast about all that crap on bravo that we just love to talk about this is part two of the recap if you miss part one go check out your podcast feed it's right there and without further ado let's get right back into the recap so then we go to united defense tactical and gretchen arrives in some weird jumpsuit with a leather belt and a crazy braid you know how i was talking on salt lake city this week about all the bad hair in that party that they went to at Amy Steele's house and how there was that lady with giant gum drop hair like Republican like

I guess it's not Republican but like news lady yeah like Fox News Lady helmet hair but then a big long braid Gretchen has that hair today is that just the thing that they're doing now is that in the blonde religion tap our gum drops back in the blonde religion gum draids it's weird so she comes in looking crazy and she's like yeah I'm trying to look like What do you call her name? Laura Croft? Yeah, I want to call her craft because that's how I am. I'm dumb, so I want to say craft.

Only she would think it's really funny to call someone Laura Kraft instead of Lara Croft. Oh, my God, isn't that funny? I said Laura Kraft. You know, my intent wasn't to create a costume out of my look for today, but then when I started doing it, I was like, I look like Lara Croft. Or is it craft? However, I just went with it. Yeah. So she's very excited, you know, because we need to learn to defend ourselves and be confident.

And there's so much shit that women go through, which is all true, obviously. But she says, I have seven counts against an individual, including stalking and harassment. So I've been in this situation before, which is why Slade wanted me to come here to begin with. So is she talking about Jay? Because that's the lawsuit, right? Because it says, there's a headline and it says, Real Housewives of Orange County, Gretchen Rossi, awarded $500,000. lawsuit. So that was Jay, right? Jay, who? The guy

that she was accused of sleeping with in Bass Lake. Oh, geez. Wow. Lawsuit. I think that's who it was. The Real Housewives of Orange County filed her suit against former acquaintance Jay Fatoglo in 2010 when she claimed he lied about her being unfaithful to her late fiancé Jeff.

I was hoping to be Miss Jay from America's next top model. I'm just, Ms. Jay's like, I'm not stalking you. I'm just trying to get you to wear something better. Oh, my gosh. So she's saying this guy was lying about having an affair with her. Oh, wow. That's crazy.

She also claimed he stole her personal property, including nude photos, and released online and threatened her. They awarded Rossi 523-250, and he filed for bankruptcy in 2012 and attempted to have the judgment discharged. now oh wow damn i didn't know all that stuff happened that's crazy yeah i didn't know either i guess that we now welcome to your education watch what crap is yeah you don't have your google alert set for gretchen rossi news

i forgot so she has been a scary situation so it's a self-defense class okay so she's inviting everybody to do this thing and we see everybody getting the invite call you know housewives trope where we see everybody's reaction to the call, the invite. And so Gretchen invites Heather. And Heather's like, this is so good. You know who needs that? Shannon.

Shannon needs self-defense. I mean, God bless her. She's just being attacked by carbs all day long. All day. Listen, anytime someone raises a hand to me, I just push them down the staircase back into the basement. So then, Actually, we find out, it's not a joke.

Actually, I don't remember this part. Sorry was making a joke out of it because we find out there's a clip of the lie detector party where Gina says there's somebody literally fucking stalking Shannon. And Shannon's like, targeting me. You know, he's stalking me. I forgot about that. It's hard to make jokes. Geez, that's dark.

I don't remember that. Yeah, it is really dark. So, honey, you are like, retchen herself. You are like evil incarnate as per freddie. Wow. You made me do it. You made me do it. Slade. It is scary and it's like it's like people need to really just like settle down on the stalking front. Like get this. Seriously. Get a hobby. Get a hobby. Okay. Please. It's terrible. It's just someone sitting out in the front yard. That's creepy. So then, um, yeah. So then this guy's like, oh yeah, it's important for people to understand. They're not prepared because people train to be prepared. So today we're doing.

reality awareness. So that's what we're going to work on today. Yeah. So people are going to show up. And so everyone's like arriving in cars. Like Shannon, like Jen comes to pick up Shannon and Shannon is like in character as Madam Swim because remember that hilarious character last season. And by the way, I just want to say as long as we're going down my earlier thing about

Gina and Emily about how like even Lydia has moments. even we can even think of Lydia anytime i i cannot tell you how many times i think about lydia being in drag as charlie chaplin i'm being horrified she's like i'm christian i can't go to hamburger mary's that image will haunt me for the rest of my life in that little hat oh like how can you not go to a place literally named after jesus's mother yeah my my um yeah my my brain my my leap there was shannon as madam swim and then i thought of Shannon dressing up as Brett Michaels and how she was as Brett Michaels walking with Lydia as Charlie Chaplin. That was, if anyone was wondering why I just brought that up out of nowhere, I realized it made sense in my brain and probably to know one else was listening.

Well, it's interesting because you know who else remembered that clip? God this week when he didn't rapture her ass. You remember. Oh, God remembers. Okay. So, Shannon's like, wow, who does your hair? It looks great, Jen. It looks just like Tamras.

she's like oh it's this new person I don't I don't really get down with this kind of hair I mean this is a little sloppy for me she's like oh it's very bohem very bohem delicious work on top of your head I just love it thank you so much I don't know what that word means

but thank you so much then Gina is like I didn't wear makeup today it's like a physical day like I don't care so they're all driving etc they're heading towards it and they're all wondering like what could it be

and Tamara's saying it's probably If Gretchen's doing it, there's probably a costume involved. Sure, and Laura, Laura Kraft. And Shannon's like, well, if this is a panic room, I will not do it. I will not do it. And Jen goes, what are you doing in a panic room? Panic? The panic room.

I love that they're just going to put them into panic room and terrify them. I love that Jen is like, oh, I love the idea that there's a room you can go into just a panic. It's really helpful with this wedding coming up. A panic room, or as Shannon calls them, rooms. So they're trying to guess what it is. And they start arriving. And Emily walks in and sees Gretchen and goes, What the hell are you wearing Jesus Christ?

Listen, Emily talking about someone's fashion is like Gretchen talking about someone singing. Okay. Just don't do it. Yeah. The fact that Emily gets in here in her full-on spaghetti strap. wrestler look that she's been rocking and she's like she looks like amazon lara craft it's like uh maybe you talk maybe let's let's hello amazon pot you're calling amazon kettle okay both delivered in a day with amazon prime so um she could have used some of tamra's

fashion fashion school experience yeah this is what happens now that tamer didn't go to fit So Gretchen's like, yeah, it's my two-maider look, girl. And she goes, what do you just, you just sprung that hairstyle on your hairstylist? That's torture. Why would you do that? So then Heather's like, oh, wow, you're like G.I. Jane, a role that I was up for that that slut Demi took from me. Well, she sure learned her lesson. Look at her.

Nowhere. Look at her. Oscar loser. Demi Moore. Ha, ha, ha. Demi, modern groundlings class more. Demi less. Demi less.

The groundland. Last time I checked, she wasn't the star of a musical in the Groundlings. I mean, she's going to use that hair as a weapon. Maybe she's going to wrap her hair around tam her throat. You get paid for this? So then Gretchen's like, yeah, I'm so excited for you to see it. Because we've all been around in situations that can be sketchy times. And like, especially where we live in the Orange County crime capital of the world.

And Emily's like, have you seen where Heather lives? And like, Heather doesn't even try to hide it. She tells us, I'm on the 38th floor and I've got like 12 security downstairs. I feel pretty good. One time Richard Marks burst through and he even got up to the 17th floor, but he was intercepted and sent back to Orange County. thank God he was beheaded by three different Alfredos so she literally is like the final boss in the video game she's like you have to go through 38 floors to get to me and you're not going to be able to make it sorry yeah she is kind of like the final boss in a video game I played that blonde girl the call of the mountains what is it called okay I'm gonna look it up you you keep talking yeah uh I'm I'm not sure but um Gretchen's like well well we have a little surprise set up for the next ladies that are arriving next so basically there's like a little bit of a fun candid camera moment where they're going to set up a fake carjacking so the the first group of ladies which is like

tamara and gina and like maybe someone else um they show up and they are like sort of parked and the windows are down and this guy comes over just like spitting change you guys got any change and i'm like no sorry and the guy's like oh wow that's a nice car so fucking, I'm so fucking sick of you people lying. I know you got changed. It's like 40 fucking times there. And Tamara, she skedaddles out of there. So she like jumps across the car on the inside in a way that I didn't even know you could move inside a car.

And she's like, get away for me. She literally pushes herself behind Gina, like to throw Gina in the line of danger. I mean, this was a horrible thing to do to anybody, by the way. I didn't like this. This whole like, let's pretend they're being. car attacked. That's not cool. I mean, why would the producers do that? Do you not remember the Vanderpump

rules cop scene calling the car? I didn't like this. I didn't like it at all. But it was worth it just to see how Tamara would react in that situation, just throwing people overboard. Well, it's, you know, most people would say it's cowardly to do that, but I think it was actually a pretty good

technique because I think any time you like put Gina in front of a would-be mugger, they'd be like, oh, oh, I yeah, there's nothing in those pockets. We'll go on. We'll go on. Okay, we believe you. We believe you.

There's nothing in your pockets. Sorry, do you want some carabella skin care? No, ma'am. No, it's okay. So the guy's like, ha, ha. Ladies, welcome to United Defense Tactical. And she goes, that is not funny. That is not funny.

You're a very scary gentleman. Gretchen's like, she said scary gentlemen so they go in and they were like they start yelling at the driver Gina's like Colleen you weren't driving the call away like what the hell Colleen and Colleen's like they told me not to say anything

Colleen you know Colleen must have loved this we've seen Colleen over the years she has to deal with these bitches all the time she's like you know what this is the best day I ever had at work watching them get scared like that this is literally what I would do if they were getting robbed right now I would just sit here Also, what's weird about this is this situation isn't even ever addressed in the show.

Like, what would you do if someone was trying to get to you through a window? Like, you can't use any of the tactics that they learned today in this situation, but whatever. I love that none of them had the instinct to roll up their window, by the way. They're all like, oh, look, there's a crazy man coming. And they just sat there with a window open. Well, don't roll it up. You might want our autograph. Okay, let's just wait and see.

Well, there's a lot of toxins in here So we have to have the window down What if I had a heart attack? I would have sued the fuck out of Gretchen I thought I wouldn't have gotten anything Maybe a bag of groceries and a subscription to FaceTune A little baby with an eraser face It's fair

Fair point by Tamara Um So I just like I didn't like that Like I'm still like shaking Oh my God And there's like I thought you were going to poop Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Kind of like Demi Moore when she lost the Oscar.

G.I. Jane, more like G.I. Loser. Why didn't Heather and Emily get jacked, by the way? I think that they would have worried what they really would have done. Because I feel like Emily probably has a gun in her purse. And Heather would have just started throwing Alfredos at them. She would have just opened the trunk and just Alfredos would have come out with like ninja stars and started like pelting the guy. those crab hands would have gotten to work she would have been like if you ever

try to carjack me or my friends again will cost you a lot I'm not carjacking either so at the self-defense okay so now we're back at the studio and Emily's like Shannon's next if you guys want to watch it's going to be great

so Shannon they do the same thing and Shannon's like where are we and Jen goes I think that man is digging in the trash can. And Shannon's like, what? It shows how little exposure they have to unhoused people because like, you know, when you, like, that's what you see

and you don't even need to point it out. You know, it's not like, oh my God, look, there's someone digging in the trash. Can you believe it? Shannon is literally more horrified that the person is digging through the trash than she is getting carjacked. I know. They're just like really sheltered.

So then he's like, oh, that's a nice ride, homie. You guys got any change? Oh, well, no, I don't, I happen working on myself. So in many ways, I do have changed. I am change and it's been a long process, but I'm proud of the work I've done. And thank you for asking. I'm fine being single. I'm fine being single.

Thank you. Thank you for asking. Yes, I, I have had a rough go of it. And, you know, I guess I have some change, which is that I used to be married. And then he went up walking on the beach with a slut. And now I don't have a husband anymore. So, yes, I do have change in my life. I'll tell you how much I've changed.

Would you like to have dinner as friends? You do not have to be intimate with me. I have a lot of male friends. A lot of male friends. No, I do have change in that I now am aware of the patterns of hurricanes. And if they may be going very far inland and perhaps imperiling a lover's house. So, yes, I guess that's change. Um, I'm sorry, Earl.

My name's not Earl, lady. Well, I'm practicing. It's called change. Do you want me to change or not? So, I do have some vegetables. Do you eat vegetables? I do. Well, see, there we go.

And then prove, finally a real man around here. I will marry you. I will marry you. So he's like, wow, you got a fucking car like this. You don't have any money for me? What are you shitting me? You don't give me your fucking phones. Give me your phones.

Give me that shit. Give me your fucking phone, lady. And I said, what the hell are you doing? How dare you, sir? How dare you propose some sort of socialist agenda right now? Just because I don't have to share it with you. I thought Obama got them phones. Because are you prepared to die over that phone?

Are you prepared to fucking die today? I actually believe I'm going to die every day. It's very scary out there. I have a little bit of a cough. And I'm concerned that this may be the last. I breathe, actually. Fool me once. Well, I will either be killed by you in this car

or killed by the filters that apparently haven't been changed in this car. Oh, too! Well, apparently, Dr. Moon says I have some psychological debris in my anus at the moment. So I think I have a good three hours left on this earth. So I am prepared to die, actually. I've been going through it all day, and I've settled my things. And yes, I am. I've died three times.

just on the way over here. You can't scare me. You cannot scare me. So she actually stays really calm. And he's like, are you prepared to die over that phone? And she goes, oh, this is part of the show. This is part of the show. He's an actor.

He's an actor. You're doing a great job. You're doing great job. Question. Are you, are you able to actually help me get this debris out of my asshole. I really wasn't joking about that part. So John's like, wow, now all of a sudden Shannon is calm, cool, and collected. So what we need to do to calm her down is carjack her? Like, what do we need to do with her? She's like, well, I was functioning frozen. Is that a thing?

I thought, can I kick his face? No, because he'll probably drag me out of the car. I can't kick his face. Here's what I'll do. I'll be extremely polite to him. And it worked. It worked. So now everyone comes inside, and it's like, everyone, that's scary carjacker, that's Josh. He's one of our instructors. Like, how? Very good work. You were very good. Very good.

I really appreciate you. So then he does a spiel about training self-defense and how important it is. And so one group is going to go do self-defense class. The other group is going to go to a shooting range. That way you all can learn the skills to save yourselves. but more importantly, you can gossip about the other group behind their backs. Okay, enjoy. Yeah.

And we're ready for some self-defense guys. What are those plastic men? And so they teach them some fighting stuff. And Gina is like, you know, I've never taken self-defense class before. But like I know, you know, because I know I'm going to die. Like, what are you going to do? Like if a man comes at you, just say, wait, sir, let me try my move. No, you're fucking dead.

Well, wait, great attitude, Gina. Let me try my move. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So they do some fighting and stuff. And then let's see. Heather's like, I really don't see myself being a hand-to-hand combat kind of a girl. You know, I just wear Alfredo jackets.

You know, I just, anywhere that looks dangerous, I'm just shielded by Alfredos. Well, one thing I always do is I carry a small little bowl in my vest. That way, if I make it to run you to go safely, I can have someone send it along to Nubu. But if I get attacked, I can hit them with the bowl. It's very helpful. Commercials, here comes one right now. So then we see the firing range room, and they're going to shoot. They're not getting real guns.

They're getting projectile guns. Okay. So Jen's like, well, I was raised in Oklahoma, but I never shot a gun. You know, it's like being out in the Wild West, shooting guns and riding horses. Well, it wasn't. I'm good with a water gun, though. My aims, it's great. Water gun, locked and loaded.

Thank you. Thank you so much for laughing at that. Thank you guys. Thank you so much. Thank you. So, my shooting sucks. I can't see anything. I need readers.

So now, and Tamara goes up there and she shoots like, bang, bang, bang, bang. She's a very good shooter. And she's like, I don't know why any of the women would be surprised. I'm a good shot. I'm a sniper with my words. So target shooting, it's a breeze, bitch. So they're all in the camera's actually really good. It's hilarious.

I was laughing out loud at this part because everyone else is like, I'm a girl. I don't know how old a gone. I can't see anything. And Shannon gets up there and she's like, bitch, pets, pets, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch. They're all dead. By the end, it's like all of them are lying down dead.

She just, it's like, she just has to envision, like, like several different mannequins wearing non-leopard print. She's like, what? Disgusting. Kill it, kill it, kill it, kill it. She's like, Cratton, Alexis, Lizzie. She's naming a malle as she goes. The old guy from the traitors who I said had asthma. Kill him.

So now it's talking time and the instructor's like, okay, as is totally normal on gun ranges, we're just going to all leave you here. loaded weapons to fight it out. Okay, see you later. See you later. Okay, so where are we?

Where are we? Split up. But where is Ben in his notes? That's a great question for Ben. So Shannon's like, wow, thank you for scaring the shit out of me today, Gretchen. She's like, sorry, you know what I forgot to ask Wes? Like, what would we do if we were getting carjacked? Shannon goes, well, if I had cash, I would have given him money.

I mean, what are you going to do? and listen if i had cash i'd just be i would just call him hey mr john jansen here's some money because this is what i do i just give men money okay and then i'd get sued by him later on for seventy five thousand dollars jean is like would you like my debit card because like you can do it yourself you know like i'll give you my pen it's like looking at a phone have there's letters on it just spell out i feel be then. It was not funny then. Although I do have a new subscriber to the real real. Anyway, it was it was not funny.

But I, we are going to be going on a date afterwards. Yes. Cigretches like, how's your guy's trip? And it was fun. And Heather was like, oh, so remember I said to you on the phone by 1am, you'll be

in the hot tub with Tamara going I love you. Remember I said that and then I said I wonder what Demi Moore is doing maybe she's cradling her Oscar to bed and then I said just kidding she'd lost it remember I said that part two were people listening to me no she's like well that is not how it happened and then in the firing room where the other girls are Emily's like oh I was Tumacula okay I'm glad you had fun so we had some bumps because guess what I heard about you and then we go back to the other girls and Gina's like yeah I'm like you should was sharing, uh, you know, uh, Shannon was sharing things about her childhood and her parents and

like her grandpa's avocado mountain. It's really good. Yeah, I said my parents had a tumultuous relationship. And then Tamara tuned in to say, oh, well, we know your dad's an alcoholic, you loser drunk. Well, that's not exactly how she said. Well, well, okay, what, what did she say? Didn't your dad have a problem with drinking or something? Oh, well, the same thing.

Wow, that was a much different. Thanks a lot. Well, I mean, that's unfair to Tamra. That Shannon's holding on to this. If anything, Tamara was, like, trying to support her. Because when you look at Tamara, Judge, you think, oh, my God, like, what a supportive person. And I definitely think that, like, Shannon is, like, creating a mole out of a, out of a mountain. She took a mountain and she shaped a mountain into a mole.

And then she put the mole on a hill. And it's like a mountain hill out of the mole. You know, I think she's doing that wrong way. Gina, you can't even do the old molehill stick. That's just, not a... It's so sad. It's just so sad. She's like, yeah, she can't even do the mountain out of a molehill.

Like, I'm worried for... I'm worried for Shannon. I'm worried. Alacados on a molehill once. So back in the other room, Emily is like, well, you know what? I think that with her, you're just not allowed to have an opinion. Okay, you're not in that position. She goes, yeah, Gina said that.

She said that to you. You know, she's just going to be pissed no matter what. Okay, we just need to hang one of those signs up that says blank days since incident. And at this point, we would just say zero. We could also say blank days and someone pulled a turkey out of their pocket. And look, turkey sandwich. Zero. Well, did you guys have fun on your trip?

And Heather's like, we went to the Abbey. It's a homosexual place Very cool Among the youths The youths Lots of homosexuals We listen to Chappelle Rowan And she was

Lovely and hilarious I am such a Stanley And they're like Oh wow, that's fun Gretcher's got loose lips When she drinks a lot of fireball But they're supposed to mean Loose lips

What is that supposed to be me Why do you bring up my hot school nickname? I mean, she talks a lot. She started telling us that you recorded a song. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I was in the recording studio, but it was just in the house, you know, like a house. And we were hanging in the house. We were in the house. We were drinking.

And it was right after I separated from Simon and then just started dating Eddie. I was like, oh, that's interesting how she's like making sure the timeline is that she was between relationships. So I wonder if this was true because it was pretty. She was like, oh, yeah, I remember that. I was separated and maybe just made Eddie one time on a thing. Mm-hmm. That was 15 years ago. So what?

What about it? And Jen's like, you have a pop song, Tamara? Oh, my God. I need a pop song too. I need a pop song. Yeah, we were just choking around. I'm going to write a pop song called, Thank you so much.

Thank you. I have a pop song called Collateral Damage. It'll just be my daughter crying on the track. Yeah, we were just messing around. Yeah, just singing songs, you know, I don't know how, I don't know who would have gotten it, but like, I don't know, maybe it was someone who was six degrees of Kevin Bacon away or maybe 98 degrees away. Who knows, but they wouldn't, I don't know how they would have got it. I don't even have it. So she says that she was confronted by somebody from a boy band that lived in her neighbor.

confronted by next on 48 hours confronted by a boy band member starring Tamara Judge and I thought I'll give it my all well it wasn't good at all so I'm like nope I'm not embarrassing myself

maybe you should just do it alone I'm used to embarrassing myself with a speaking voice oh my god well then she says that like Slade has a copy he has a copy well of course he does

yes and then he proceeded to say that you had an affair and an affair with both brothers of Nelson while BB back watch. What? What? I can't believe that. What the fuck?

What the fuck? In the other room, Emily's like, Yeah, apparently. Oh, no, sorry, still the same room. It's all. In the recording studio, you recorded a song, but then you and him had sucks, and it ended up being on this recording.

Slate has a copy of the recording. She says, oh, bring it. I'd love to hear it. I'd love to hear it. I wish, I feel like the more normal response would be like, that doesn't even make sense. It's like the strangest rumor. Like they had, I mean, the last, well, actually, it's not that strange because it did happen to Jacks Taylor, but that's also Jacks Taylor. So Tamara's like, well, you gotta give a credit.

He desired to try to make me look bad. She's just so obsessed with my life and what I have and what she doesn't have that she just wants to tear me down. So Jen's like, well, I have gotten to know Gretchen. And last thing she ever wants to do is talk about Tamara. She's always like, please, I don't want to talk about Tamara. And then she talks about Tamara. So I don't know if Emily's being a girl's girl or stirring the pot a little bit. Well, my understanding from Slade is that first of all, he was more than happy to share information about Tamara.

And, you know, the way that Gretchen kept saying, we get stuff about Tamara all the time. It's unsolicited. We don't ask for it, but people send us stuff about Tamara all the time. And Jen's like, yeah, yeah, she tells me that. she does she says they don't have anything to do with it it just comes to them so i don't know who do i believe here's the here's the thing oh wait let me rephrase that here's the turkey sandwich just came out of my pocket i think it's really fucking hypocritical for her to have been for the past month or two to be on your case tamara all the time talking about how tamara's a horrible person

and she brings up all this stuff that you brought up gretcheny of an affair or whatever and the whole thing and she had to go to court and she had to defend it she had to do all those things remember remember remember flashback to all that and then tam was like yeah and then there's pictures of hair on the internet make it out with him yeah so basically they're saying like it's ridiculous that Gretchen's coming for Tamara about all this stuff but Gretchen's doing the exact same thing right so then we see the Bass Lake staff for the 2009 reunion was he at Bass Lake with you well he came for a day with a whole group of friends oh he was the Bass Lake too imagine that just had to be a bad slag. Well, he knows it. Well, you know, Jeff knows him as a family friend. Oh, now he's a family friend. I thought he was a stalker. Which is it? What is it, bitch? My point is, Heather and I aren't even asking her shit about Tamara. And then she tells us all about this unsolicited stuff. And they get him and they hold on to what that has to do with Tamara. And in my mind, I'm thinking, you're no different than what.

you've accused her of being the student has become the master the turkey has become the sandwich the salad has become the tuna i wish i had a delorean me too to the week they cast your ass please deborian that's what she drives seriously so i thought this was interesting tamera's like um yeah they were in a relationship things went down she got caught and now she's worried about her image so then she started saying bad things about him which caused him to sue her and then she sued him so it was a cluster fuck of suing because they used to be fucking is that my fault is that my talk so she's like i don't have anything that's out of care but it proves my point and the reason why i never wanted to be around her for the past 12 years so gretchen so now they go into

they come into the room, right? I thought Tamara I did her shooting. I guess she's doing more shooting now. No, Gretchen and her ladies walk into the firing room and then I think the other ones go to the other room. Like they switch rooms, right, to get the other lessons.

So, wait, is that right? I don't know. They're just shooting more guns. And now Gretchen's saying how she gets nervous when she shoots guns and they're just shooting guns. Okay, so Tamara basically gets the award for being the best gun shooter and they give her in a war and she's oh my god i got a butt plug and uh she got her kubotan

not a butt plug and now it's time for them to uh sit down and enjoy some fireball you know what i love i love free booze at a firing range i feel like that always works out really well well i don't think there anyone's drinking it except gretchen right doesn't she just pull it out of her purse and start drinking it or didn't well she just says we have she just says we have she just that they have champagne and fireball at the table oh okay okay i thought i was like damn gretchen pulling some fireball out of her purse like she got addicted pretty quick there and and gretchers don't get your ponytail on the food so um yeah she's drinking fireball and emily's like grouchers are you drinking fireball yeah her fireball makes you talk a lot of shit gritchin

she says um yeah it does unfortunately grudgeon knows what's coming you know, she's like, so what's your problem? Beds? I don't have a problem. So Tamara then gets up. She's basically like reenacting her scene with Alexis Bolino at the cut fitness preview. She's like, well, clearly you have a problem because I heard what went down. And Gretchen, see, Gretchen should have said, oh, yeah, it was you on that boy band member.

But she didn't do that. Instead, she's like, you know, it's annoying to me that Emily immediately went running to Tamara and, oh, Gretchen was doing this and Gretchen was doing that. Like, come on. you're just as much a part of it than I was no no no no no no no no no no no liar no you fucking compulsive liar so she's like so would you hear and Tamara's like oh I'm about your manipulation and she goes well what did they tell you and so Emily's like oh I'll just say it so when we were in LA oh it started out silly it was like we're talking about the pussycat dolls we're talking about her single And then I said, Tamara tried to sing a song. Wait a minute. You tried to sing a song.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Like, this is, like, very fascinating to me, and I'm, like, locked the fuck in. And I was like, yes, we were having a girl's night, having fun. We were having, what is it called, the circle thing, pizza. And we were just having girls, girls' time. And then we're like, let's hear the song. Could it possibly sound as good?

as me in the Groundlings musical. And it was silly. It was like, oh, she tried to do a song. No one was taking it seriously. It wasn't like she was on Malibu country or hot in Cleveland or getting advice from Betty White or having a better career than Wendy Malick. He was just fun. Oh, yeah.

And then it turned into I'm fucking Nelson and I was having an affair and you hear moaning in the background and all that shit. Come on, get to the story here. Jesus Christ. And grad's like, that's not what I. said. Slade said that part. Slade said that. Yeah, and if Slate said something stupid, that's on him. Oh, yeah, of course, Slate said something stupid. This is the shit you've been doing to me for 12 fucking years. And I've had it. I fucking heard it. She, Tamara sees a season, like, she can see that she can, she can make herself like the epic victim here. And so she's just going to literally run with it because she like runs out. And Tamara's like, he has to be. ready unspeered, does it? Which, by the way, Gretchen's saying, like, I can't control it if Slade says something. That's on him.

It's like, yeah, but he didn't even have to be part of the conversation in the first place. He literally brought this shit up. You called him to do it. You know what you two are doing. We're not stupid. Well, we're not as stupid as you. So, Heather's like, um, hello, you brought up the song in the first place, Gretchen. And Emily's like, I'm so tired of Gretchen putting herself on a pedestal.

I mean, she's so self-righteous and everybody else is wrong. By the way, we still want to hear the song. I don't think it's a fair statement because we were out and we're having fun and it first came up as like a song. It was silly. It was silly. Let me finish. Well, you guys were saying like, why was she singing a song?

And I said because she was like working with Nelson on some song. You know, that's all it was. Oh, wow, Gretchen. Not Gretchen lying again, huh? I can't believe Gretchen's lying. this is crazy. So Emily's like, you said more than that. And so we see the clip of Emily saying, when did Tamara go to a studio? And Gretchen's saying, when she fucked Nelson, was she married? Oh, that would be bad. That would be bad. You know, so Tamara's like, enough. Enough is enough.

Jen's like, you know, through the years, you've been saying just as much as she says, Gretchen. And Gretchen's like, yeah but I'm always responding to things that you said and I said that you girl that night like I'm so mad at myself for even saying something and like I get sent stuff all the time and then you just said like all these people reach out to you and I kept my mouth shut forever and I fucked up the other night I just fucked up and Tamara's like oh yeah you really kept your mouth shut didn't you yeah sure yeah I did about all the shit I know about you fuck yeah I did I kept my mouth shut and so Heather just puts bread in her mouth I mean you know Heather's stressing if she's eating a car on TV. Yeah. On TV. And Tamara's like, what do you know about me? Bitch?

Oh, yeah, I know a lie. You trust me. Oh, yeah. What do you know about me? You want me to talk? Go ahead and talk. Because it's going to be ugly for you. So then the producer is like,

well, what else do you know about her that she doesn't want known? Next question. So then Tamara's like, here's the thing. That's the thing. She's the one that tries to destroy his people's lives. Like the time when I got.

We went on the reunion, and I said, she's been cheating on Jeff. God, the way she tried to destroy my life when I said that to her. And Gretton's like, yeah, okay, let's go with I ruin people's lives. You're the one that's been sued for your lies about trampoline parks, and the person that you tried to get in a lie about with about me, I sued, and I once, you can fuck right off on that. Oh, the guy you were fucking, the guys you were fucking, see, there you go.

There's pictures of you making out. with fine with fine grade up your fucking vaginas all over the internet remember that yeah well remember you remember the one that i took to court and breathed everything she's oh fuck off so these two i mean i have these this argument is just so hilarious they're so ridiculous there are never gets right in our face and gives her both middle fingers and she's like Why didn't you have to talk about it in allie? Why? Gina, you're right.

I should not have opened my mouth. Yeah, she was like, she wasn't that shit talking about you. I mean, she was talking about her Shannon's father's... Alcoholic. Alcoholic. Just again if I whisper it. Fuck us. It's not fucking funny anymore.

It's not... It's just so juvenile. And Tamara runs out. And she, you know, you know, running and screaming and having a fan. She's like, I'm done. I'm done with this shit. I'm so done with it.

Now, look, here's my thing about these rumors with Tamara. I believe them because of how Tamara's been acting. But also, we know that when Tamara is wrong and she's caught, she runs the hell away. She does it every single time. We've got multiple instances of her doing this. So I think you're guilty. But then that said, it's also a zillion years ago. And I don't care if you fuck the boy band guy.

I say if you've got a boy band neighbor who wants to fuck you, it's your duty as an American to fuck the boy band guy, okay? Yeah, I think so. I think you've got to take that shot. You need to do it for the story. And I think if someone's like, but you were in the early, but wait, she was already in the early stages of cheating on Simon with Eddie. I say, just like, you know, just say, hey, it was a wild time. It was a different time of my life. sorry guys yeah exactly i'm not talking about shit from 15 years ago just do that just say that

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