Watch What Crappens - #3023 RHOM S7E18: Sleeping with the Enemy

Episode Date: October 4, 2025

Julia drops her much-hyped bombshell on The Real Housewives of Miami reunion, but before that it’s a fairly typical RHOM episode: cross talking, bickering, fake apologies, and hilarity. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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It's what happens when there's so much that crappins. Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Crappins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo. We'd love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker. Joining me today is the hilarious and glorious. Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you?

Well, hello. How's it going? It's going really well. We're talking about the Miami. reunion today, which was pretty amazing. Very excited to get into it. Monday, we've got a crappy hour, so join us for that. That's going to be 530 on the West Coast, 830 on the East Coast. And also join us on Patreon. We did a recap of With Love Megan, which is on Netflix. So that's our bonus episode. You also have video content on there that's available for a week before it goes to YouTube.

So you get that exclusive window. So we have a lot of fun on there. Excited for that. I want to give I give a shout out to our friend Michelle Collins. I forgot to mention this on the OC recap, but I went to see her show Wednesday night, her show. And I think it's called, wait, why don't I know you? That's the name of her show. When I tell you it was the funniest thing ever, like I literally like I almost peed my pants and that's not an exaggeration. I literally had a moment I thought, wow, I'm getting old because I really had to like be concerned. So that's just my way of saying if she's coming to your city, definitely go see her. It was so funny. We always had to

our friends. And so go check out Michelle's show. And it's also appropriate because she's from Miami. So there's a tie-in to this. But yeah, just wanted to give her a shout out about that. She is one of the funniest people on the planet. She's hilarious, that lady. Good for her. Right on, Michelle. Another tour.

Nail it, baby. Nail it. But today, we're talking about other funny women who are funny for different reasons. And that is this reunion. What did you think Ronnie about this first installment. Love it. I can't believe they gave us the bombshell. Do you think that was the bombshell or is there another one?

That was the bombshell. I guess it was such a big bombshell that's going to have a repercussions for the rest of the reunion, but that was not expecting that as the bomb shell. I don't know what I was expecting. We've seen the preview that Adriana gives Julia a box and she's like, I have a present for you. And so she opens and everyone's shock like it's a tiny little Gwyneth's head in there or something. So I thought that was going to be the bomb shell. So I don't know. Are there more bombshells coming?

Yeah, I thought the bombshell was going to be like, you know, Adriana always went to my friend, but it turns out we're going to get some like emails that were like threatening and abusive or whatever. I thought it was going to be like that, but I wasn't expecting this. So that was a good one. That was a good one. Good for you, Julia. So we open with everybody coming to the reunion, getting their makeup did, as usual.

Lisa's as cool as a cucumber. I'm as cool as a cucumber because you know what I have on my side? The truth. The truth is on my side. side. And Jody, you have Jody on your side. I'm going to go to me. Listen, I can guarantee you this. I don't know what's going out in today. I'm also not going to open. So. Larson's like, I'm not really like a receipt girl like. I don't need to keep like things

on my phone like. I keep beautiful photos of my feet. My children. My boyfriend. Not in first grade. It's like I love that order of priorities. My feet, my children and my boyfriend. I'm not in first grade. Yeah, mature people keep pictures of their feet on their phones, Lysa. I keep beautiful photos of my feet, my children, and my boyfriend. That is like such an amazing quote. I hope that gets like put on to like a poster someday. So we see her boyfriend, Jeff Kobe.

He's laughing on the couch. He just loves this. He's like, my feet, my children, my boyfriend. Our man, in for life, I tell you. So we go over to Stephanie's dressing room and she's just being wacky. Like, Stephanie really corrected in the middle of the season, and now she's just going to be, like, fun and love everybody. Cheating her delivery.

Yeah. Guys, no joke, you have 11 minutes, which, by the way, how many times does she say that to make up people? Like, that's like the moment she loves. Guys, no joke, it's 11 minutes. You better hurry up. Then we go to Julia. And she's like already crying.

She's like, it's just the last month, a lot of comments. It was really hard for me and for my family. And we see all these quotes of people being like, Julia needs to be deported back to Russia. Julia needs to be dragged, literally, and figuratively. Oops. Julia's running the show 100% hated this bitch. So she's not doing so well emotionally with the fact that the audience has turned on her massively.

No. She's like, I'm not the weak. I'm just so sad to death. And she's like sobbing in her chair. And I felt for her for a minute. And then I remembered that she's going to be awful in about five. So it's like, I'm going to hold off on that. I'll hold off on my empathy or my sympathy for a while, babe.

So then Adriana is checking on Gertie And they're both ready for battle And meanwhile Julie is still sobbing She's like, I don't even have Martina with me She's with the boys at home I really wish she could be here for me to admit To America that I cheated on her I have to do this alone

Alexia and Marisle run in Oh bro, okay, come on Jay Oh, fuck they give a big group hug like Oh no, it's okay, we got you, we got you where you got sure. Hey, just what do you all? So Andy walks in and he is like, hey, hey, share. Oh, that's what I was going for, but with more dick.

Well, it's perfect. How are you feeling about today? Well, we have our little difference, but we'll get through it. Wrong answer. You're supposed to say we're going to scream at each other and I don't know how we get through it. Okay, all right. Set an intention. Okay, going to say hi to Alexia now.

Hi, Alexia. Holok. Okay, tell. I'm moving and Andy, too. Oh, man. Me gusta la Naranches. Amario. Amarillo.

Amarillo, I too la Azulio. It too mama, too mamma, Biddy, bimba, nailing it, Lala, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la,

Bamba. So then Stephanie comes out, oh, this is a beautiful set. Oh, this is almost, this is almost as nice as Shoma Bazaar. This is really nice. This is really nice. really, really nice. Do you guys have a, do you guys have a espresso machine slash stage for

Adriana's band? No. Okay. And she gets first chair, which I think is. Right. I didn't even pay attention to that. She did get first chair. Yeah, she got first chair. And so then Kiki, you know, everybody arrives and compliments each other. But Kiki doesn't like that. Stephanie doesn't have her tits out. She's like, you need more tit. That's what you need. Next time, more tits out. So then Julia comes. You know, everybody comes out and says hi. But the big, Big news is Lisa is on time, everybody. And they're shocked. And Adriana brings her damn dog on, Basquiat.

And she's like, it's my emotional support dog, Andy, I need Baski here. I love him. I don't know if you've heard my new single, which is raging all over the charts. I love my dog. I love my dog. I love my dog. She literally released that as a song. Did she?

Yeah. I love my dog. I posted on Instagram. I posted a thing of Taylor Swift's new. album coming out and put her face on it and it's I love my dog and I'm like yeah it's a good album Taylor's best album in the airs and yeah that's from the professional recording of I love my dog oh I but I didn't realize she like released it on like iTunes I thought it was just it's fine well I would expect nothing less for her so then Baski can't stay out there

it'll be too chaotic because we know the boss guy's going to try to hump every leg we saw the footage from earlier in the season when he went to his horse let dog have one last Oh, yeah, the whorehouse. Tripped to Paradise. That was good. That was my favorite scene of the season, I think. That was great, actually. Hey, everybody.

Welcome to Miami Season 7 reunion. I'm Andy Cohen, hoping to earn all the red flags for most likely to ask shady questions tonight. Ola sombreros. Oh, la, Macarena. Okay, ladies, tonight, our location is inspired by one. of miami's many iconic and vibrant rooftop bars and it would be a miami reunion unless we kick things off with some tequila god i wonder why these reunions are always so chaotic okay everyone drink up he says this is the only reunion where we begin with the tequila shot which is funny

so um they they take hey kiki don't like try to get like too late come on lay all right mary soul give us a toast cheers everybody let's just have a good fucking reunion all right. That's my cheers. All right, Stephanie. If nautical staff was as cool as a cucumber, what can we expect from reunion, Steph? Thank you, Andy. Thank you for making a callback to, like, my viral joke

that I, like, broke the internet. Like, nautical staff is so funny. Hashtag nautical staff. I'm just going to try to be cool as cucumber, too. But, you know, like, I'm still going to, like, voice my opinion. It's like, all right. And Larsa, you brought a special guest today.

Is it a framed photo of your feet? No, like, I feel like I brought. by like boyfriend like because like I feel like like everybody's like I feel like met him like so but like he's here like how long has it been I think like eight months no since you guys last broke up oh probably like two days ago but yeah it's great and he wants to marry you by the end of the year I read it in the french magazine and it says real housewives larza pippen reacts to Jeff goby saying they're getting married in November as he talks about ring shopping. Plus, she reveals why he stands out from past relationships.

So is she going to be Miss Kobe, Mrs. Kobe, by 2026? I like, I feel like, like, I feel like, like I think so, like. Yeah, I think so. Okay, cool. Well, we all know this is going to end in failure. So we'll let you try to pretend like it's going to be something. Miss Kobe trying it. So Andy's like, Kiki.

What's the latest on the new condo? You're living in a show about condo? No, I'm living in a different condo, but I'd already have made plans to move as a show about before I even knew about Stephanie. So, uh, 70, you've got to give me half off. And somebody's like, what? Half off.

That's crazy. You know, it doesn't work that way. This is big discount. Mary Soul, how is your pristine colon? Oh, great. Colin questions. Oh, today it feels especially gun, Andy. My knees could use a little help.

My knees are taking that. I mean, my knees are taking a little bit of a bullying this season, Andy, but my colon's feeling fine. Thanks for asking. Jeez. Adriana, who has a hires ex-drive? You are Bosquiat. Remember when you had a boyfriend for one episode of the beginning of the season? Bosquiat, however, he has not hired somebody from France to come in and pretend that he's the boyfriend for a few months.

So I don't know who wins this one, Andy. It's a toss-up. Is it a toss-up? Julia, you're coming up on a year since you've. If you and Martina have had the boys in your life, do they have any sense of what a champion Martina is? Yes, I think they do, because Martina walks in and wakes them up every morning by saying, wake up, a champion is waking you up. So I think they're starting to get the point.

They understand because Martina watches tennis all day and she tells the boys, Champion on TV! Look at Champion on TV! I can tell you, they call Steffie Graf, useless and sorryful. I don't know. You take this how you will. Whenever we go to Denny's, Martina will only allow them to eat a grand slam. And she says, I won that. But the real one, not some pussy version with pancakes. And then she throws the pancake on the floor. It's so funny.

Lisa, we're going to cover a lot of different topics. Any plans to take notes? I always take notes, Andy. Well, you recently rang the opening bell at NASDAQ, which was hilarious. Why did they let you in the room? What the fuck were you doing in NASDAQ? Why, all the other celebrities taken that day? How did Lisa Hoxstein ring a bell at the NASDAQ?

Did she think it was NASCAR? What happened here? That was real bitch me, mom, and Andy. It was on my bucket list. Really? My bucket list. I want to ring the bell at the New York Stock Exchange. No, she didn't even do the stock.

She did the NASDAQ, which is, not even the stock exchange. Gertie got to do the New York Stock Exchange. Not that one's better than the other, I don't think. But, like, I do like that Lisa has his moment with NASDAQ, but then it's like, it's superseded by Grady doing the New York Stock Exchange instead. She's like, yes, I got to do that. It was really amazing.

I couldn't believe that I was able to do that. And unlike a cruise ship, I was actually allowed to be there and I wasn't kicked off for some reason. But yeah, it was for breast cancer. It was symbolic. Where's your, where's your belt, Captain Sandy? Alexia, when I last saw you, you said your relationship with Todd changes, so how's it doing it at 11.35 a.m. today. We're no longer together, Andy, and zero contact. I haven't seen. I haven't spoken to him. I blocked him from my social media, from my phone, from my emails, from everything. It's the only way to do it, Andy. That's how I am. Strong. It's me. Strong. Hold on. Something's buzzing in my pocket. Maybe it's thought. Maybe it's Todd. It's not Todd. It's not Todd. We're still broken up.

Are you still going by Napola? Well, legally I am, but like, not that it matters, but like on social media, I remove Napola. It's just alexia, you know, like Madonna, I'm just Alexia. I never really identified with that last name. I never feel like, you know, and I feel like you really have to feel it, you know, I never felt like Napola, you know? Like, you know what?

I feel free, Andy, because all you have, you have no idea. I would come to these reunions and I would be in a fight and he would torture me. And he would say that none of you women were my friends and I would say, no, but I'm a star. Of course they love me. I'm a star. And you know what? you know you know like that's what i was that's what's going to on the show yeah he would pick fights with her and she'd tell me the day before time picked a fight with me and then we'd go to the reunion he wouldn't talk to her she'd go home and he still wouldn't talk to her i mean i don't

know she came out of here and did it because the reunion is a hard day it's a very difficult day we're artists and to come out here and just to perform our art like this take something evy i mean we all went to school for this for many many years this is a very very difficult profession did not have the support of the old man who's currently funding your condo dreams. I mean, it's Roth, Annie. I mean, thank God I got Steve back there being like the being like the iron that I need to keep me going. Like, look, hey, Steve, how you doing? Oh, can someone wake up, Steve?

I don't think he realizes. Hey, can we cut to the Steve Cam to see what Steve's up to? Cut to Steve, just being like, so your name is Jeff. Play football, football, ball, basketball. Yeah, basketball. Yeah, I'm more of a golf, more of a golf kind of a person myself. Like, you golf, no? You ever listen to Frankie Avalon?

No. So Andy is like, it's like, okay, well, Todd's been active on social media. Islington boys on Instagram posted a question to Dodd and he said the wife of a friend said that she's driving his fake car living in his fake apartment. What should she do? To which Todd replied, hello, Islington boys. I would like to say, I'm very sorry that you had to be adored that question. over here on social media. The truth is that actually, it depends.

Does the woman bring anything to the relationship, or is she just there to get things? Hold on, new piece of paper. I apologize to Alexia. When I said that comment 10 seconds ago that was not my best self, I was in an angry place, and sometimes when you're angry,

you say things you don't mean. Please accept this box of Godiva chocolates on my behalf to know that I meant nothing by it at all. Thank you. Todd. I would like to apologize here to forth, and now it thenth to dip in dots for not offering their services during my apologies. I have now remedied this and sent Alexia dip in thoughts to apologize for my behavior,

which was their two forth unreliably nasty. Thank you so much for your matter to this attention. Well, you know, first of all, that's like very typical Todd, because we all know he loves to do videos and then we see videos of Todd, like giving all those apologies and like so it doesn't it doesn't surprise me that he would say something like that because he obviously knows that i wasn't there for the money okay i was just there for the good apartment think okay well was the narcissist party about todd which is why i'm dating a poor person right now andy you know like my next person's going to be four really no i'm just kidding i'm just

kidding i'm just kidding come on not there for the money but i would not be there without the money It's time for a crap and's commercial. Basically, she's like, we all know Todd's a raging fucking crazy person and goes and makes rude videos online. That's part of his charm, Andy. So then the question is, okay, well, you now finally admit that that narcissist party was for Todd. And so, of course, Alexia flip-flops. And she's like, okay, now I'm going to admit it, Stephanie. That was for him.

That was for him. That's true. That's true. I know it's like a big shock to everybody, like after I said this is a narcissist party and it's for Todd, but it was for Todd. It was. Stephanie's like, I knew it. I knew it was about Todd. And it's like, okay, there you go. So are you going to start dating? Are you going to start dating? Well, I feel like I should. But because, you know, like, you know, that there's an old expression that says one nail drives out another. That's like a Spanish saying that's like a new nail takes out. Like when you cut your nail, the nail, another nail grows back. So, you know, like what I'm trying to say is, I'm going to get a manicure after this. at Frankie and Frankie and Alexia's nail salon.

Thank you. Well, Mary Sol explains that it means like the best way to get over somebody is to get under somebody new, basically. Oh,

is that what that meant? Yeah, she's like, I thought she pointed out the finger. I thought when she pointed at the finger meant like a new nail comes in when you get rid of the old one. My biggest revenge is getting my power, Andy.

That's my biggest revenge. Okay. You know what I'm taking, my, you know what, I gave somebody new hair today and I won. I won, Andy. So you feel like you have your power back? Yes, I do. Although actually there's a power either so I actually

don't have power in the condo, but like, you know, generally speaking. But I got it back, yeah. It's not powerful, but I got it. Well, that's great. All right, let's switch gears. Gertie. Viewers love seeing you with Nicole this season for five minutes. How was that? Do you hang out? She's like, we're

set to see each other very soon. It'll be a mini reunion, Andy. Mini-read. It's going to be amazing. Here, I have the details for it right here. Please join Nicole on a boat with Captain Sandy. God damn it, I'm going to get kicked out of the restaurant again. Well, I'm curious if you think your issues with Julia would have turned out differently if Nicole were there. My issue with Julia would be great if she had picked up the phone and called me directly, Andy.

Instead of having some lady named Norma call me and telling me that I'm fired. Well, one of the biggest things that viewers reacted to is to women's lack of reaction. to the water toss. So we see all that. And Gertie is saying, well, I was like, I was repacked. It was like, like, like, I literally repacked. I literally repacked. I don't know what she's even trying to say there.

But then, oh, I guess this is, this is just the fight. Sorry. Sorry, I thought this was, we're back in present time, but we're still in the flashback. So they have the fight, the water thing. And Alexia's like, yeah, I mean, like, looking back and reliving this and like watching it. Like, I wish I would have said something and I wish I would have done more. and I mean the way that Julia disrespected Gertie, that was not okay.

It was not right, you know? And I feel like we were just in shock because who would do that in front of a star, right? And at that moment, there's like no excuse that we didn't stick up for Gertie except for all the excuses we're about to give. Yeah, so I want you to know that there's no excuse and like I'm never going to say anything about it

even though I'm about to make 20 excuses about it and tell you how it's your fault. Okay. And so Lars is like, yeah, but like sometimes like we're like, what happened? But like, we were like, I feel like I don't. don't condone this behavior, but like Julie didn't know she was going to do that, so it wasn't rehearsed or something. So like, it's okay because she didn't rehearse it. So like, I think it was

like very reactive. Like she just wanted to throw it at the table and we all got soaked. It wasn't just, it wasn't just gertie. I'm like, oh, okay. Okay. So you guys don't want to make any excuses. All dresses matter. Yeah. All table clause matter, guys. It's like the same thing. So wait, do you confirm that she intended to throw the water towards me? Well, it was directly at her. Like, what do you need confirmation? I'm saying, like, we should have all done more. But, like, however, like, sometimes when you're sitting there, you don't do anything.

Like, you didn't do anything when Adriana threw a whole glass at me, Gertie. And then we go back to 2022. Dun, don't, don. And we see that there was, that did happen. And there was no, there was no reaction from anyone. And Adrian was like, I did not throw a glass at you. She said, he threw a whole glass at me, a drink and a glass. drink inside of a glass, but the drink came out of the glass because you threw it, so it fell out of the glass.

But they both came out. Also, you threw ice at me that day. Don't forget. Like, you threw ice at me because there was like, you threw a straw at me too. Remember? There's an umbrella. Someone took an umbrella and shrank it and put it in the glass. Instead of like celebrating that like amazing feat of science, you threw it. You almost broke the scientific miracle. Yeah, that is called beaker deflection. Okay? You're trying to bring science into something to deflect. Okay. And I don't know what you're saying. Like, what are you getting at right now? Wait, do you accept Alexia's apology?

No, that wasn't an apology. No, no. I literally came to listen more than I'm going to speak. So I would like to listen for an apology. They're like, um, but she, so she's like, okay, well, you know what? There is a history in this group,

and there is a pattern of people throwing objects or things and not liking it. But when it happens to you, that's what you get upset. there's a history of throwing things in this group and you don't say anything but what happens to you you get upset and you have every right to be upset just like everyone else did when it happened to them we've all had things thrown at each other it comes for you one of these days first they threw a cocktail umbrella at larsa we say nothing then they throw an ice cube at adriana and we say nothing and then you know what the juice box comes at lisa and we said nothing you know and then the came, but now you're saying something about the water. Like, I don't get it. So Kiki's like, my thing is me and Gertie, we were good.

And even at that event, like I stood up for you as a friend, which is, I understand, you probably think I did not do my best. But as a friend in that moment, that's what I would want a friend to do for me. And we see footage of like Kiki, kind of like at that moment trying to like pull Gertie away and like calm her down. And Kiki basically says that in the wake of that she actually got threats and people were saying that she was racist or something like that. And she says, yeah, I'm getting all sorts of threats.

And Gertie's like, racist about what? And she says, because I wasn't supporting you. And she was, oh, so now you're racist? And she said, well, that's what the whole internet was saying. I'm being tagged from your post from everything. And Andy's like, wait, it's my understanding that you said in the press that by her removing, by her removing you, she made you look like an angry black woman. Okay, well, that's not saying that she's a racist, right?

Right. I'm Gertie never said that. I mean, I can understand how they would say, okay, well, everybody. is coming at us online and calling us racist. You know, Gertie said in this audience doing that, not Gertie, but I guess they're saying that Gertie is like in a

detractify article. In a detractify article, Gertie is quoted as saying, because this is on, they put this up. And she's saying, I'm being pulled physically when I haven't done anything, but you want to make it seem like I'm being held back

because I'm about to swing like an angry black woman. Kiki, stop it. Let's not do that. So Gertie is also saying that. And so Kiki is like, like I keep on getting tagged and people are threatening me and they're literally saying like Fafo fuck around and find out Alex is like what's happening

Gertie is the second half of the season we go to Spain and there was some kind of resolution and we're all getting along and even you and Julia appear to be in a good place and then the show comes out and then you went into a press tour and then this whole war starts on social media you know and it didn't even include me a star and so then we see like more headlines about all this yeah but also she's talking about stuff

that happened on the show I mean, what the hell? Like, they all do it. They all talk about whatever storylines are going on the show, like the fight is fresh. So, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I kind of get what they're saying here, but, like, they're basically, basically what I hear Alexia saying is, we had a little fight. There was some water thrown.

It wasn't that big of a deal. It happens all the time. Then you made up, and then you act like you're offended again and let everybody call us racist. This is basically what she's saying, right? Which, okay, I can see that, but it's not Gertie's job to go. out there and say, they're not racist, nothing they did, blah, blah, blah, blah. We've all seen, we all saw the show. I mean, the audience pretty overwhelmingly felt like it was not cool what you guys did

and how you overreacted to Gertie, putting text up on a screen, but didn't give a shit that Julia just like attacked her in this thing. That's not cool. And it doesn't matter that you do it all the time, because you all have something to say about it when it happens to you. It's not like it just goes by without anybody saying anything. So the audience saw it. So blame the audience.

And there was something like even before. we got to the text message thing that happened later at Gertie's event. We all clocked it when it happened right after the episode aired. We all clocked at this. There was there was an undertone of something feeling problematic about this because it wasn't just like the other like what are throwing things were like little like whatever, but there was something about like being in like a wedding and like it was like Julia was Julia's basis for being angry at Gertie felt so tenuous at best already. And there was something about like that she just like really soaked Gertie at like in a context that just felt it just felt like more humiliating than the

other things we saw like you cannot compare Kiki throwing a juice box at Lisa on that on that boat to to that moment like that was not a humiliating moment okay even if even if Lisa felt some sort of way about having an object being thrown at her like I'm sorry this was just you know there it was like a it was like all the loved ones were there the husbands were there it just was like a time when you sort of don't expect that and it just was it came off as really sort of like more hurtful than the other spill it was also as a lead up to it because the season started with alexia being like you know what gertie you're just too much you're too loud like you're just too loud and mary sol being like yeah you're just too much you're just too loud like no one wants to be around that so it had come after that that's how the season happened with you guys being like she's too much she's too much and everybody kind of trying to ice her out and saying she's too much and she's too loud and she's too energetic and she's too this and that and then when julia came after her at that wedding it was literally out of nowhere they were having a little argument about text and then she stands up and

just it was so over the top and nobody did anything and then took her side and that's why it's yeah weird you know it didn't i don't want to go as far as to say like racist it just no it felt icky and it felt like you should know better all of you okay agreed although what we're what we find out later in this episode, which I thought was fascinating, was that there actually was a bit more of a reaction towards Julia than what they actually had aired, which is a little fucked up because it kind of like held a lot of these women out to dry, you know, they're like, oh, they didn't have any reaction, but we saw that they actually did have some reaction, but it still was not as big as a reaction later on in the season.

Yeah. Now, all of this said, I do think that Gertie, you know, she's so stubborn in her. Yeah. She's like, no, no, you know. She's got the wins of the audience behind her as well. So I think she's coming into this like, I won this one. She's a little hot. Yeah. She's a little hot. The thing with when Gertie is angry, she like literally cannot hear input.

So it is frustrating. On these shows, especially at the reunion, like the rule is you fight and then you make up. Then you fight and then you make up. And then you have a huge fight and it's entertaining. And then you have to forgive each other and stuff. And I don't necessarily blame Gertie for being like, no, you don't get to just come here and pretend you're sorry because social media got mad at you, which I think is what she's saying right now without saying it.

But Alexia's like, oh, you know, I never would have done that after thinking about it. Like, I'm really sad for Gertie now. Like, no, you're mad because the audience, like, you're saying that because the audience is coming for you, you know? Yeah. So I don't blame Gertie for not just immediately swallowing it and moving on. The fact is it was some bullshit. Yeah.

So, so then Alexia's saying, Alexia is basically now, like, complaining that Gertie went to social media and like sort of attacked them on social media. She's like, you know, every single episode when this was happening. I mean, like, we know, like, I mean, we're all together. We don't think that it's right. It's not right. It's not right that you go on social media. Fan the flames.

You're fanning the flames. And we see Gertie's text and everything. And Gertie's like, no, no. These were bad. I don't, I think that they're overreacting to stuff. They're trying to accuse her of saying that they're racist. And she never said that. And I don't think she hinted at it either.

The thing with Kiki was another black woman, and she didn't say, she was just saying, like, you should know better than to try and make me look like an angry black woman in front of all these people. So Gertie's like, okay, well, show me, then tell me exactly what you're talking about, these tweets or whatever I did. So we see one from her, and it says, they came to perform, I came to inform. They thought chaos was power. Well, I just let Lego do the heavy lifting, Gertie. Hashtag Gertie. I don't think that that was fanning the flames or being bad. I think that's a normal out of social media.

they all get on social media and say crazy things I mean Larsa for crying out loud So Gurley is like I wasn't saying this she did this because of this Because you create some sort of flame that's like Okay well you're not aware of it No I'm asking like what is what did I put on social media Just I would like to know

And she's like well for example The one with like Julia through the water I said well I never posted that Will you never acknowledge on your place That you were in a good place with Julia I was like well and it's like okay all right Well maybe she was reacting to what was airing at the time Alexia that's what it was

Gordy's like well I do appreciate that you're saying that the press that you wish that you could have done more. But because, like, you know what you did? You did do more. And now we're going to play the footage of what happened after I got the water tossed, not a table, not a gritty.

I'm going to, I'm going to all security. Okay, like, let's roll the footage. Let's hold the footage, which I love when Housewives prompted the director to, like, quick, like, package. Roll that beautiful bean footage, please. You didn't get me a towel,

you didn't get me security, nothing. We're going to see that right now. And I like that Larson's, like, well, you didn't get me a towel two years ago. And I got a guess what I either when someone was throwing water on me. It's like, what I did is get you guys verbally, then hazing me after that. So you did do a lot after you haste me. You haste me.

So then we see 11 minutes after the water tossed. And Alexei is going, well, I'm just saying, you know, like you put all your eggs in one basket. And how did that work out for you? And she's like, what are you talking about? And she's like, Larza says, Nicole, because your friend's only. only with Nicole and that's what we're saying. Like, you're wondering like why we're not your friends now, but like you were only friends with Nicole.

Now Nicole's gone, you don't have like friends like. But I'm telling you and I'm telling you. So like I'm saying I felt like you were a little bit disconnected with everybody in the group, which is why it's okay for you to get water thrown on your head. That's all I, I agree by the way. So like this was like, they did like literally tear into her. So it's funny because they, they do tear it.

We see them tear into Julia later, but I did forget that they also were like being really shitty to Gertie right afterwards. Yeah. So Andy's like, Gurney, what's your reaction to the equivocation of other people getting things thrown at them and not reacting? It's like, well, there's context behind that. And we all know that this is part of a bigger idea or concept. And Larson's like, she never like answers the question like, oh my God, she literally did. But you're kind of a done. And Gurdy had a good line here. I probably don't know what concept means.

Yeah. Gurdy, I like when Gurdy said this. Well, you know what, Julia, she's a three-petter, Julia, of course. And the fact that the matter is that you've all tried it at Marasota, which Marisota forget. You know, I didn't forget. I just, you didn't help me either. And you guys, by the way, no one helped me when she threw ice at me. By the way, remember that? No. Someone stopped her, didn't they?

When she threw the ice bucket, someone came over and like, yeah. So someone helped you. And they couldn't really help you when they all have, you were all sitting down. Weren't they all sitting down like in a big purple and beach chairs or something? I mean, come on. And number two was at the Mamasita's luncheon. where for some reason she felt the need to break glassware and break a chair when Nicole had to pay for replacement. And then was he footage that we never saw before of Julia screaming like,

Marisol say yes. Did you say yes? I don't know. Did you say it? Did you say it? And she's banging a chair on the ground. I was like, why don't we get to see that? Why didn't we get to see that? Why have they been holding Julia's crazy back? And also how people, including me, forget how fucking psycho Julia is. I mean, some of the clips they show it, I was like, oh, my God, I forgot that Julia goes this crazy on people. Yeah. And then Grudy's like, and then number three is when she physically assaulted me and she finally landed her moment on TV.

I was like, I like, I'd like painting the narrative of Julia of like trying to have a big reality TV moment and like, and they'd take it all these years. Yeah. Finally, she co-starred me, so she got picked up. That's what happened. Yeah. That's what happened. You're welcome. Well, why hasn't Julia spoken one word?

Just like, yeah, well, I'm about to ask her, what made you throw the water that night? Oh, I understand that watching the footage brought you back horrible memories, and I'm very sorry. Again, I was out of character. I reacted, I overreacted. It was slightly tequila and healthy, he, he, but it is not excuse. There was no excuse for it. Nothing that I do is planned or really rehearsed. I am sorry.

Why do they keep saying that? Like, that gets her off the hook. when yeah because lorza said it about her too like it's not like she planned it she's like yes i didn't plan it what is i think that she was accused of the plan because i think when she threw the water it felt like kind of awkward and clunky almost like she was planning to do that all along i think that people felt that at the time of the show it did seem like that it did seem like it was like i'm gonna be mad i'm gonna scream we're gonna have this huge fight and i'm gonna throw water it did feel like that but i don't think that anybody said it here i mean i probably said it but gertie's like wow

That's scary, Julia. She goes, well, this is how I am. Scary. So? And, um, so Adriano's like, except the defense you just got here. Well, it's been three times. You've done it three times. Let her finish though. Like, let her finish though. Like, she didn't panic. Go ahead. Finish your speech. I am incredibly sorry. And I already said sorry to you, Getty. And I would like to see it one more time because I mean not only my heart, but God's heart. And all I can say sincerely, I am. I'm very, very sorry. Three times.

Three times. Three, no, excuse. Between you and I, it happened. It happened one time between one of us. Okay, it's just, well, the scoreboard's really only one. Because it's spread around other people. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

Okay, we've heard a bunch of fake stupid apologies. Let's talk about Gertie's celebration of, life event. Don't, don't, don. Ladies, the big issue that resonated with viewers was your outrage at Gertie showing the text versus your response to the water being thrown. Mary Saul, you are raising your knee? Go ahead. She's like, more.

Yeah, you know what? I would like to say something because I took Julia to the bathroom to calm her down. And I told her we're mic, so you can roll the footage if you want. But I said, don't throw anything at anybody ever unless it's Adriano's face. So we see footage of Julia, like Marisol and Julia going to the bathroom at the wedding. And Julia's like, I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. Oh, no, I'm literally going to cry. I'm going all. All right. Well, hey, just see. Look, don't throw things. I was very angry with Julia. And I was equally angry. I just don't like it in public.

Like in a display, it's humiliating, you know, neither of them were right to me. I said that. No, no, no, no. I want to respond, you know, because the big difference between these two things, like, I'm happy that you said behind the scenes, don't throw water, but would have been great, like, hey, ladies, we need to have a discussion in front of me, because that's the problem I never saw with me present. But that's not true, though.

Like, that's not true, though. So then we see another flashback to two minutes after the water toss. They've left all this stuff out, which is crazy. So it's all this stuff that we haven't seen. And Kiki is now helping Gertie clean water off. And Gertie and Mary Stahl's like, yeah, I don't like throwing of stuff. And Larsa says, yeah, I don't like this. Like, I feel like we can't like throw drinks like.

We can't I feel like do that, Julie. Like, she literally reprimands Julia, like right in front of Gertie. And Gertie goes, well, thank you, Larsa. Thank you, Larsa. Again, this was not as big of a reaction as the other event. But, you know, it was, it was a reaction. So Gurdy is like, well, action speak volume and your inaction speak volume as well. And they're like, no, Gertie, but like you had the same situation last season with Larsa.

And Gertie's like, well, we're talking about this season. No, but like, you're not going to tell me when like what I'm going to talk about, Gertie, because I'm talking about last season. And you sat here and we listened to you. And you need to respect us too, because I'm going to say what I need to say. Okay, because I'm a star. But what was the thing that she's saying the situation with Larsa last year, the same situation with Larsa? I don't know, to be honest.

her situation with Larsa was just that Larsa blabbed about her cancer, right? Yes, she was blabbing about her cancer. That's what I thought too. So, Alexia is like, no, you need to talk, let us talk. You know, we give advice to Larsa that she should have had the conversation with you instead of making it about everybody else. Yeah, but like, you never, like, answered your phone like and you didn't like answer your text like. Like, I said you like flowers, I feel like, and you like, you didn't, you didn't like respond. She's, oh, behind closed doors, behind closed doors.

And Andy's like, she's agreeing with you. And she's like, oh, well, you know what? But they're ready to public shame me. So they can't public apologize, but they can public shame. Which I get. No one's public shaming you. Stay on earth. Stay on earth.

I love that. Stay on earth. What did the text messages prove that you put up? Well, the point was that after like multiple attempts of saying, guys, look, it's not true. Look, look, look. No one wanted to listen. Yeah, but what did it prove? It proved everything.

But they don't read. Andy, they just don't read. And then Adri, I was like, well, just say that you were invited and didn't ask, and didn't ask to go. And like, that's what the point was. Yeah, she's just trying to help her because they're just asking her for simple clarification. And that's what she should have said. They're proving that I never begged to go on this cruise. Julie is crazy, right?

So Gertie's like, wait, wait, I get to a point with people not listening. You feel unseen. And, you know, it feels like I don't matter. And Kent rapporteur in front of me because of this little click thing. And then, you know, you get to a point where it doesn't matter. and that was my breaking point. And I said, I'm done, I'm done. I'm doing it, and I'm done.

That's it. Text are going on the screen. All right. Well, so this event and these events, they happen on the show. She's apologized to you maybe five times on camera now. Where do you go from here? Well, I think that we need to come to a place right now presently, and I wish it would have been at the premier party

where you say, you know what? Something big happened between me and Yurdy, but I want to move us, see us move forward. Okay, so what about tonight, though? I'm trying to set this up for a hug, an apology, something like that. So, come on, you can do it. Well, where are you today, Julia? Where am I? I'm right in front of you.

I am a girl standing in front of God in bookstore, wondering why Julia Roberts is on bus. Is she a new film? I love her. Okay, get to the point. Just say sorry. I'm so sorry. Okay, well, why didn't you call me before I watched What Happens Live Apology? Why didn't you call me? You haven't called me for anything. Well, I did not call you.

My children were under attack. You could have like a good friend you are. You could have volunteered and say something to stop spreading this hate. My children, my boys. Oh, stop with dragging your boys on here as props. That's crazy. You could have still called her and worked this out. That's nuts.

Well, I had no idea the public was attacking your children. No, not the public. It was Martina, making them up at 4 in the morning. Make them play tennis every single morning. They're on there. They're talking them with balls. Saying run faster, loser. Run faster.

So she says, she went online. She accuses Gertie of going online and discussed publicly shaming us for changing the boy's name, referring to them like grown children. And we see the tweet from Gertie and it says, I've never judged Martina for anything she has done in the public eye, let alone never questioned them for renaming their adopted grown kids. So then Julia is saying. that they consulted. What was this? What was this bad? I don't know.

I have to see what it was a reply to because I've never judged Martina for anything in the public eyes. So that means that it was based on something somebody said about Martina or something. Or Martina must have said something, let alone never questioned them for renaming their adopted grown kids saying they're, so she's just saying I'm not, she's saying I'm not judging them. But I guess they're saying that is judging them by bringing it up in a tweet. Very confused.

but basically Julia says they spoke to child psychologists and it was like okay and Andy's like okay well you post about the kids for their security which I mean she's putting them on TV so I don't know that that really that was our personal choice for them and their security which I mean you're putting them on TV so guys kids are off limits like kids are off limits

okay you don't ever talk about the kids you just wait for them to turn 18 and then you start dating them and he's like Okay, well, so here we are. Here we are. Okay, where do you go with this, Gertie? Well, I'm right here. Okay, I didn't start this fight.

I never knew about this fight. Can you at least admit that it was not about the cruise at all? No, uh, it was not about the cruise? Yes, because of the cruise, I think you saw an opportunity. But you just publicly humiliated me with text messages to prove that you were not asking to go on cruise, but it's not about the cruise? Yes, yes. Why can't you follow along? Okay, I'm just going to say, the only opportunity I'm.

seeing is how to move forward with you because how you and I face each other after eight months. And that is the only goal. And I now apologize with you. What is these nine times? Nine times by apologizing. By the way, I hate when she keeps announcing the number of times she's apologized because that totally drains the sincerity out of it. If you're keeping tabs on how many times you've apologized, yes, you may have done it many times. But if you sincerely want to apologize and move on, you're not going to throw it in the other person's face how many times you've apologized. Just say, I just keep saying like, I really, I truly, truly, truly want to move on with you.

Well, it's also annoying because Andy started it by saying she apologized five times. So now every time she apologized, she goes, now it's a six time, right, Andy? Now it's eight time, right Andy? Can we get counter? Can we get counter up? And she's doing this whole thing where she's got her eyes half closed. Like she's just so, she's about to fall into just a depression hole. And she's like, my only car, wish, aim, desire that I have is to go down. on my knees to beg for your forgiveness.

Like, oh, okay, okay. No one's asking for that. And Gertie's like, no, no, you called me psychopath scary. You said at Lisa's party. She's fake. And she goes, but I apologize ten times now. But those things matter, because I'm not fake, and I've been nothing but a good friend to you. And so when we're there eight months

and you have nothing bad, there's not one text message from you in eight months. You know, like, I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I'm sorry. What do I do to make it better? How about not just apologize for shit when you're on TV. How about like be a real life fucking decent person, I think is her point. You know, her point is like, why do I have to come on here and forgive all these people after

they've been tortured online when not one of them has made a real life effort to be nice, you know? They're bitches to me all year. It's like two years in a row with Julia, working behind my back and being an evil asshole to me. And now all of a sudden, I have to forgive her because she's crying on TV and I have to make a public show so people don't go bully her children, which by the way, stop bullying her children if anybody's doing. that that's fucking psycho but yeah you know obviously but i don't think gertie needs to like fold either i don't believe one thing julia says at this point yeah he's like well the cruise the cruise and july but the cruise was two years ago well she needs to admit that the cruise was a big deal

but we're not going to learn anything i'm like weren't you just saying we have to admit this isn't about the cruise this is the thing why it's also tough with gertie because she's like a moving target and like you it's like wait she was saying like it's not about the cruise but now it is about the cruise. It's like, it's a little, like, I would kind of go a little nuts trying to, like, reason with her. I think you just have to, like, once she's, like, once she's pissed off and when she's activated, you just kind of can't, like, you just, you can't, like, really expect much. You just have to wait for her to be calmed down and then you can have those things. I'm not defending Julia. I'm just saying that Gertia is also, like, really, like, she just gets,

she gets into a mode and it's like, you can't get through it. I have to say, I get it because I feel like they're gaslighting her. keep acting like, what, but Gertie, I said, I'm sorry, but you're not saying what you are sorry for. You haven't admitted that the cruise thing was bullshit, that you did all this stuff behind her back. Gertie's not like verbalizing. She's just saying like, I'm right, I'm right, I'm right, which I think is failing her. But she's not verbalizing what the real problems are. And I think it's making her crazy that this lady is just sitting there saying, but I said I'm sorry. And it's like, but you know, you're not saying you're sorry. You didn't

say anything about the cruise, why you were wrong about that, that you were lying behind my back going to these ladies that you know don't like me and talking all this shit to them to get on their good side when none of this stuff even happened i never begged you to go on a cruise i never did all this so i can see why she's kind of going crazy you know well it makes sense why she's going crazy but i wish she if that's the reason why what you were saying i wish she would that was the thing she's not like verbal she's just assuming yeah she's like assuming like you know she wants them to say like when you're wrong you want the other person to say i'm sorry and this is why I'm sorry.

You know what I mean? And they're not going to give her that. But as far as the cruise being two years ago, Julie, it's like, the cruise was two years ago. Who cares? But it was a year later that you were making it a storyline. It was not, it shouldn't have been a big deal then either, you know. Oh, it's crazy making. So Andy is like, well, this is clear you guys aren't going to resolve this tonight.

So it's complicated. It's the blah, blah, blah. Yeah, what do you want to do, bully her? Like what, she's apologized 10 times. Like, stop bullying her. It's like, oh, my God. Okay, thanks, Larsa. So then Adriano's like,

Garrity, you're taking the bait. You have to say about the lies about the facts of the cruise. You just have to say it. It's not about the details of the cruise. I'm like, but it is Gertie. I also feel like sometimes Gertie is not honest with herself. Like, it is about that.

That's why she put up the text messages in the first place. And it's okay that it's about that. You should be pissed because you were treated like shit on that cruise. And then Julia made it sound like you were a hanger on and being like a diva. Like it is about that and as well as other things. Yeah, I think Adriano was actually given her good advice here. She's like, you need to just specify why you're mad. And she's like, please, I promise you. They already said they don't want to talk about the details. So she goes,

okay, well, then I'm going to go too. Like if everybody's going to get up, I'm going to go PP2 because now this is all kind of backstage stuff. So Gertie's like, listen, Adriana, you got to get a hold of yourself. She goes, but I'm just trying to help you. And she's like, no, no, it's not about the details. Nobody cares about the crews. Okay, we did good. We did good. I promise you. Now, you're getting too heated. I'm just like, I'm not heated. I know. She's just like Gertie's saying that. now they come back to the set and Lisa's like, I just want you guys to make up that song.

I'm like, well, there's no band-aids and it's because we've got to talk about the issue. If we can't do that, then we won't do that. And then Stephanie's like, oh my God, the sofa's green where I was sitting. Isn't that outrageous? I am such an outrageous housewife. There's an iconic moment, right? We're going to remember this for the next 10 years.

The green sofa. So show my group. Oh, Miss Green, careful on that plane now, you hear. Oh, she's like not getting like on that plane like with that outfit. Like, there's no way like. So she's going to be leaving. literally right after this going to work Andy I've like never multitasked so much in my life those condos don't show themselves she's like you're the reunion's gonna be done at nine p.m.

You're not like like she just- She felt like condo advertising. I don't know what this girl was trying to pull but yeah it's hilarious when she's like oh my God I'm such a boss babe. I've got to go. I've got to go. This is like crazy. Like I've got so many things to do today. for my internet ads for the condo This season we met a new housewife who made clear from the get-thos that she's a mighty mouse

that brings home plenty of cheddar but some thought that that this no-nonsense businesswoman was a little too plain-spoken emphasis on plain it's wordplay Larsa I know you were confused could someone spell out the two words

for her and explain to Larsa So Stephanie we got a lot of comments about you flaunting your wealth Brantlin on Twitter says Why is my name? Bramlin It's a stupid name. Stephanie seems to be leading with her wealth.

And Leva from Southern Charm says Stephanie is doing the most. Every chance she gets, she's talking about her money. Well, let me explain. Okay. When a football player wins the Super Bowl, they wear a Super Bowl ring. And they walk around and they show the Super Bowl ring. So it's kind of like, you know,

I've won the Old Man Ball Super Bowl. Okay, I've got the biggest and the oldest old man balls. I literally fly on them, Auntie. I won. It's literally like if Taylor's Rift gets Jason Kelsey, I got Joe Montana, basically, current era, Joe Montana. It's like I literally won so much. So she says that she's like really proud and he's like, well, you really came in so confidently. I'm curious, what did you learn about yourself watching the show back?

Well, for sure, I learned that my tone is something that comes across so harsh, why that's not what I truly mean. But like, listen, Andy, I'm working in a predominantly male-dominated world, and you're not going to get very far in life in that industry being the soft-spoken, quiet one. Okay, those internet ads do not sell themselves. Sometimes you just got to say, I want 500 CPM, and they just have to listen to you. But you know what? My heart is pure, and I love deep. So I just need to express that. okay okla from homo says would you ever consider hiring the ladies of shoma and or the ladies at shoma and she's like um i learned with my sisters that um women are bitches so i will never hire another woman in this male dominated

no she doesn't say that she's like no i'm not gonna fire her a real fucking elsewhere if you crazy are you nuts so then um he's like asking oh do marison lexia you called her bossy what kind of bossy thinks she would be a demanding one but that's a good thing huh yeah so then and he's asking about the rumor that she was hired by his ex-wife to be her assistant oh my god that's gotten so much traction just like the runway under my private plane like so many podcasts like never met okay first of all i never met his ex-wife never worked for her never her assistant she was they were separate for eight years before anything even happened. Okay. Well, um, until it from Jen says, uh, you didn't meet Massoud at a basketball game. You were hired by his ex-wife to be her assistant. Oh my God. Yeah. That is not true, Andy. That is absolutely, I haven't even met the woman. I haven't even met her. Um, and Adriana goes, until

recently when we were having lunch and we went to lunch and all of the sudden she froze. And she goes, oh my God, oh my God. It's Massoud's wife. She goes, ex-wife. I was like, I don't want her to yell at me about the fact that I basically tore up her entire swimming pool and moved a little bit farther down the yard. Oh, my God, that would be so awkward. Yeah. So Charlotte from the web says, Stephanie, I've had trouble with my sisters. Have you made progress with either of them? She goes, listen, I'm no piece of cake.

I also don't eat pieces of cake. My sisters do, which is why they're hideous. And, you know, I've tried with them, but, you know, it's like we speak different languages. Mine has dollar signs. there is have, you know, IOUs. So you understand, Andy, they're poor. Yeah. And I've learned so much by speaking to Alexia and all the girls have taught me a lot actually.

And I've tried and there's like not a lot of progress, but I have emailed because I like learn how to do that. And like, you know, I'm like really hoping that they watch this show because I feel like they'll be able to see that like I really truly care. But they'll also see like, look, she has problems with all her friends. So it's like they'll see I'm an asshole, but an asshole to everyone. They're not just on the receiving end of like targeted asshole behavior. I think that's really important. Yeah, like she's the problem, Andy. That's what she's like saying like.

And she, Courtney's like, yeah, that gives some perspective to say it's not just them. That's such a. If that winds up being the conciliatory tone that they need, it's like, no, I want you to know you guys think I'm targeting you. I'm an asshole to everyone. That's it. That's it. Don't you want to let this asshole to everyone back into your life, this person who can't get along with a single person in her own life because she's too much of a douchebag herself don't you

want her back in your life it's not against you personally that shit was golden she's so unself aware that was one my favorite like mental workarounds for why like someone should like resolve their issues like no you should get along with me because i'm actually terrible to so many different people i think it's actually really important all right lisa i have a very important question when Jody referred to AC, was he talking about me? Does he have any AC, by the way? I know. I was going to say it's kind of an odd parallel to make, but thinking back to the

Kathy Griffin allegations from years ago. Yeah, that's true. So Lisa's like, oh my God, he was talking about. AC means air conditioning. All right, yeah, we know. Well, everyone knows that Lisa Hawksie lives in Lisa. Lisa World. Lisa World. That's my website, Andy. Okay, trying to do an intro here.

Okay. We wrote it like that for a reason. Okay. And by the way, your website is Lisa World. Okay, well, her behavior raised a few eyebrows and more than a few red flags. Lisa's already lost. It's a reference to the party you were at. Remember the party? No. Okay. So he asked, has she listened to what Jody said about controlling the chaos? She goes, yeah, I got a therapist, and like, it's good because, like, it shows me about time management, you know, because, like, that really opened my eyes.

I don't want people waiting on me, okay, but that took years. She goes, yeah, but you know what? I have a problem. I don't calculate time, but I'm working on it, and I take full accountability for that. Oh, yeah, she takes accountability. That's great. That's really wonderful how she does that, okay? This so cracks me up, just how the ladies all have something to say on each other's things.

And did you notice at one point? No one shuts up. And I noticed at one point that they turn off their mics on this one. Because on the other ones, they never turn off their mic. You hear every little thing they whisper. But in this one, Andy will be asking a question. And you literally hear people like talking at full voice in the background. You do.

And they just had to turn off their mics. They've just stopped trying to control it. Speaking of controlled chaos. It's literally like filming a reunion in like a food hall. It's nothing about background voices. It's like when we do those bonus episodes in the food court or the, you know, an airplane or like an, what am I saying? An airport or whatever. So, well, Alexia's nurses party.

That was a rough night for you, right? She's, oh, she's like, yeah, I was late. So I had the target on my back from the get-go. Okay, well, you were not only late, you were defiant about it. I wonder if you had fallen on your sword a little bit. Yeah, well, why would I fall on a sword? That's stupid. You'd die.

Okay, well, Stephanie's like, Andy, what, even if she would have walked in and said, sorry, done whatever, I still would have been livid because it's like, that's why I am. I'm like hilarious. Will you tell my sisters, I'm like so awful to people. That would help a lot. Thanks. Awesome. So she finalized her divorce.

How was the co-parenting? Martina recently said on Twitter that surrogacy is wrong and sometimes you can't have it all and I wonder because both Logan and L are born via surrogacy so what's your reaction? She's like I was shocked

I couldn't believe it at first I had to ask Jody what all those letters meant and when he said it was surrogacy I was like is this a joke I'm surprised that she didn't even retract that oh she took the comment down we had numerous discussions about it And I disagree with her 100% with that.

And I got her to agree with this. Surrogacy is only wrong for trans people. So take the olive lans. We also, there was also a moment where Lisa was talking about like, you know, like, is she going to get engaged? And she's like, well, everyone, big news. And she puts up her hands, like, look at the ring. And they're like, oh, oh my God. Wait.

Is there a ring? No. But why did you hold up? your hands, uh, I was manifesting. It's like, you can't do that, Lisa. You can't hold up your hands like you're engaged. Oh, oh, sorry. That's the goal, Andy. That's the goal. Okay, it's the goal. All right. Well, Julia, by the way, obviously, we got to see you ask Derek and to be the boy's godfather in Marbeia. Well, most of us got to see it because two of you didn't go. Anyway, you asked an old queen to be a godfather.

Did you and Martina ever ask anyone to be the godmother? No. And was Adriana ever in contention to be the godmother? No. Wow. That is like the deepest dagger in my heart. That is the deepest dagger. And Gertie's like, didn't she write two character letters for you?

She was exactly because when they were trying and needed a home study someone to vouch for them. And I did it not once. but twice. And I recorded it with piano behind it. And I asked you to be the godmother Baski. So why could... Adriana, you're doing so well. She was doing so well.

She was like, that is so... I was there for you. I wrote letters for you. I asked you to be the godmother to my tiny little horny dog. So unsurious. Julia was like, maybe that's a little bit different. That is her baby.

He's my baby. I love my dog. my dog. I love my dog. Oh. When Julie and Adriana first met, they were so upset with each other, they actually got friend games. Which we all saw it coming back then, eh?

But now, the honeymoon's over. So we see some clips of them starting to sour. Their friendship's starting to sour. And then we come back to the present. And Andy says, well, it seems like Mary Sol and Alexi's friendship with Julia was the catalyst for the

division in your friendship. Would you that's fair? And Julie's like, Andy, can I say something to give some clarity? Well, he's asking me a question. He's asking me a question. Yeah, he asked her a question. Clarity, clarity, clarity. Hold on, hold on. I did ask her. I did ask her. Well, I feel like when she wanted to be friends with Alexia, I was fine with it. And Alexia wasn't instigating. But when Marisol got in the picture, Julia transformed herself. And she took a dive on the dark side. I didn't even know who she was. So yes, there's something underneath it.

oh wow blame me for everything one of mine just a a lady with old knees who can't eat pasta for dinner and has to hang out with steve every year and get married again why don't you take responsibility for your own behavior once adriana oh maybe maybe enabling her to bring her true self out and okay so julia finally gets to talk and she's like okay i would like to say something that would bring clarity hopefully on why we are where we are with Adriana where we are in the Hamptons Adriana and I slept together and everyone's like in the same bed right you shared a bed no we slept together let's be a tuna tuna you know what I'm saying I love that they show next week and Adriana's going I didn't Caesar anybody this is what you do you seduce people so they bang so do you think it was just that one time or did they have like an affair i don't know i think we're going to find out but apparently they even do it oh no it looks i read rumors that this is what it was going to be and i didn't believe oh wow

and that was actually it so but doesn't that even make it worse on julius part like you slept with somebody and then you just ghosted them. That's not cool. Yeah. It makes it complicated. Well, we're going to find out next week. It's a good cliffhanger for us. Thank you, everyone, for being here. We hope you have a wonderful weekend.

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