Watch What Crappens - #3025 RHOP S10E01 Part 2: Breath of the Wild

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

This is part 2 of a 2-part recapThere’s a lot of stink around Stacey Rusch, and it’s not just her breath. Questions about TJ have all the ladies in a tizzy in our first Grand Dame Incarce...ration Era episode of Real Housewives of Potomac.  Yay! To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watcher Crappins ad-free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. What's what happens when there's so much than crap is. welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, we'll go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. That's that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. So Stacey's like, well, I don't think that divorce should ever be celebrated, but I'm not Ashley. And it also didn't take me 10 years to get divorced. So she's in a different place
Starting point is 00:00:53 in me. I'm a fast divorcer and everyone knows it. um so uh you also aren't fighting for money though stacey because as i recall from your divorce you were like i don't care i don't need any money surely he'll keep providing exactly dummy yeah and also maybe you weren't ever really getting divorced i don't know what the story is with her at this point yeah exactly so she asked about the boys and um everything and then nash's best like you know last time that we saw each other it got a little tense and um you know and i understand and why you left, it was probably pretty embarrassing for you to show up in the same car as someone else in our group.
Starting point is 00:01:30 It's mortifying, but I just, I really wish you hadn't left. And Stacey's is like, well, I just felt like I was being ganged up on. Do you think it was too harsh? I'm just asking because you said you understood why I left. And now she's like, well, the thing is, like, just a few days before, we went, you know, we were, you know, Giselle and I, we went to this essence black women in Hollywood luncheon. And there was someone there and, well, she's an actress. So pause for respect and admiration.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Okay, yeah, we spoke to an actress. And she was like, I got to talk to you. And Stacey's like, okay. And she proceeds to show me screenshots of like legal documents that say that, you know, you're the defendant and that T.J. is the plaintiff? So I'm like, is he actually trying to sue Stacey? I don't even know what to say to that. Okay, so it's true.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Yeah, that's crazy. Stacey, okay, what I'm saying is you're not going to maintain to me that you're telling the truth. like you're being truthful? I'm telling you everything I have told you has been the truth but I can't talk about someone who brought you
Starting point is 00:02:32 I mean this is just ridiculous do you want to know the real truth Ashley yes I forgive T.J oh my God so good like the way she
Starting point is 00:02:49 teased up a fake reveal this is twice in one episode I have forgiven T.J. And he has gone on with his life, and I am a completely new space. I'm like, you know, if he is suing you, it's not, like, you don't get to say you've forgiven him and therefore it's over. No, he has to forgive you if he's suing you. If he's suing you. No, I'm just saying pure reality, the logic is that.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Like, if someone says, I heard that someone's suing you, and he'd be like, it's okay because I forgive him. I forgave him, yeah, court dismissed. Case dismissed. I forgave him. Yeah, pretty much. Obviously. Ashley's like, it's just really hard to talk to you while you're eating a lollipop made out of,
Starting point is 00:03:31 is that a dead fish? Got a snack. I've just got a snack, Ashley, you know? Listen, I've forgiven T.J., and I'm not going to rehash and go back and forth about an imaginary friend and imaginary documents. And she's like, oh, really? So there's nothing imaginary about her.
Starting point is 00:03:52 She's very much in the flesh. Nell Carter, that's her name. Cal Carter. That's who it is. Cal Carter died. This is the epitome of an imaginary friend. She is not with us anymore. Fine. Jack K. Harry. I said it. Jack A. Harry has the goods on T.J. Okay. I don't even know who that is. What do you mean? You don't know who that is? Oh, Mary. You don't know who that is? Oh, who is Mary. I don't even know who these people are. It's literally the sitcom that took place in D.C. Do you not realize the sitcom from our neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I don't understand. Oh, I'm currently dating Lester. Does that count for anything? Wait a minute. Hold on, I need to Venmo Lester. Hold on. Give me a second. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I'm getting a call from Calvin. One second. So, Asch was like, this is why everyone thinks that you're fake. And she's like, well, let me tell you this. She's like, well, and this is why Kay is calling you fake. And this is my girls think this. And I'm trying to understand. She goes, well, I don't think if you, I don't.
Starting point is 00:04:54 care if you think that i'm fake and so ashth's like well so you're just going to lay and wait until someone potentially comes out until it potentially comes out right because i am not going to lay and wait i have been living a beautiful life with arabella and my ex we just went to a very interesting indian morocan fusion restaurant they put a tzine lid on my head which i did not appreciate but it's their art and i'm not going to say no to their art well you know what um And she says, yeah, I've been living a beautiful life. She goes, oh, okay, well, in the event that he doesn't come forward, she goes, well, that's new information for you.
Starting point is 00:05:32 It's not new for me. It doesn't matter what anyone says. And if you want to keep talking about this, I will leap. Gilda. Gilda's like, great being part of this conversation, ladies. I just love seeing you about. Does anyone want to have a snack? I got some Mott's applesauce.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Ash is like, like, like, I just want you to be honest. wait a minute before you live I just want you to know that Lester says that you owe him some money I don't even know who Lester is who is this woman? That's Pearl from 227. Hey, Pearl
Starting point is 00:06:04 Do you have any evidence on your phone? She probably would. That's someone I would believe. Pearl would believe. Pearl would totally have that. She's like, you want to feel? Like, Pearl's got the goods. I love Pearl. So
Starting point is 00:06:19 RIP, Helen Martin. Ashley's like, So wait, just be honest. Are you actually divorced? She goes, I am absolutely divorced from this conversation. Wait a minute. Well, why isn't it in any databases? I actually search the databases of the state of Virginia.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Because it's not anybody's business to know where it is. But it's public. That's how it happens. Well, I don't do that. I don't have to divorce in public or with the government or let anyone know or even get divorced. But wait a minute. You want to see if I'm divorced because it's clear as day. It's in the Virginia database. And Ashley's like, yeah, if you search me, it's very public that I'm divorced, but I couldn't find Stacy to save my soul. And that also like, why can't you, why aren't you also
Starting point is 00:07:10 looking up TJ's lawsuit in public databases? That's what's confusing to me. Well, that's true. Yeah. Ashley's so concerned about like how this all works. That's true. It would show up in the public database. So see it all the way through bro, girl. So Ash just like yeah, what even if you're suing civilly, right? Even if, yeah, I guess so. Yeah, it was still governmental. I feel
Starting point is 00:07:32 like I should be out there. So Stacey tells us, I mean, why does she have time to Google about me? Like, she needs to be Googling a voice coach, okay? And then we see all those headlines from when Ashley's saying this made me L.O.L. I was dying because when they put all the headlines of
Starting point is 00:07:47 Ashley just like crashing and burning doing the Roberta Flack thing. And then coming back and being like, wait a minute, that was just a bad day. I couldn't hear the band. I'm going to do it again. Killing me softly with his song. Killing me softly.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I mean, she should not be worried about my husband or my marriage or Arabella. If we are supposed to be friends, I just don't understand. Why would she, why wouldn't she just ask me? I'm like, she is literally asking you right now and it's one on one. I don't like liars, except for Gisal.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Well, do you know that I'm a liar? She goes, well, I don't know that you're not a liar. Okay. Well, once you speak to your imaginary friend, who is very real, she vacuumed a fish out of a fish tank and was also in ladybugs with Rodney Dangerfield. Well, I don't care. You're making it sound like I'm misbehaving. You ain't misbehaving. Anyway, listen, I don't want to hear about this anymore.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Harry, it's a real person. Look, I don't care about this. If you can show me these documents, then we can rekindle our friendship. It's like, okay, then Stacey, you can take a pause. You'll have to walk off. And so Stacey is like, of course, going to storm off again. And that's exactly
Starting point is 00:09:07 what she does. Yeah. And so, Ashley's like, what is she running from? I should be running after she blew that hot ass breath in my face. You'll just like, tell me about it. Oh, gosh. So now, Giselle is just walking around her house going, I feel so pretty.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Look at me. Oh, let's look at the hair today. Oh, yes, hair. Oh, yes. And she's like, I'm so happy being alone. And then we just see Giselle doing alone things, like looking at her phone on her bed and then calling herself pretty in the mirror. I mean, I get it. I live alone.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And I do walk around doing that. Oh, my God, I love this. The last, like, two or three years have been storylines of Giselle's daughters going off to college. And now the storyline is her daughters have gone to college. So we're getting incremental progress on Giselle's boring home scenes. Yeah, love it. So she tells us our typical day in her life is working out, working on projects that she's working on, reasonably shady, GNA. Do I have time for men?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yes, I do. Giselle has been in the streets. So now she calls Ashley and they're talking about the bloom party. It's time to bloom. We got to bloom. We're blooming. Yeah. And she's like,
Starting point is 00:10:30 It's going to be a Cinderella's ball, but also blooming, but also Cinderella. So she's like, oh, I love that. And she says, I think I might bring my friend Tia. She's super sweet and a real British person. So you'll love her. We're going to have a fabulous time. So she invited Stacey, but she's not sure she's going to happen. that things blew up.
Starting point is 00:10:52 And she does an imitation of her. She's like, Ashley, Darby, I've never lied. Oh. And she's like, yeah, she says that that was an imaginary person with an imaginary document. And Giselle's like, no ma'am, no ma'am. And Ash is like, like, what, like, what are you about? Are you even divorced? Like, you know, I couldn't even find it in the database or anything.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And Giselle's like, this bitch is a. even divorced. She's like, so now we go to Kierna, and Kierna is visiting New Housewife Angel. We meet her husband, Bobby, who I know that's a phone in his pocket, but I could not. I was like, I need to
Starting point is 00:11:33 remind this just to watch that phone swinging around in that pocket. Like, I know, because he was like sitting on the counter and his pants were like all, and then he like jumped off the counter and everything like bounced. And I, you know, I went back and I was like, let's examine that for a moment. Bobby.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Bobby. It's like literally the shape of a giant phone. And I was still like, that's hot. He's also like 10 feet tall. I was like, Bobby. So then Kierna's like, I love me some angel. Like me and Angel have been friends for a very long time. And apparently they've been friends since they were 18. And they've worked together and everything. And like, she would like, Angel was her client. And then they worked at BT and all the stuff. And so this is like Kierna's big find is Angel. So Angel says that the biggest misconception about her is that people think she's a bitch because she has a resting bitch face. But she's a girl's girl. She serves matcha tea to her guests and she has wellness retreats. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:31 She's a Maryland girl, but they moved to Colorado because Bobby was with the Broncos, but now Bobby's Bach. And they're just like happy to be back in the DMV because this is their home all so they could be on TV. Yeah. Yeah, so they go hiking. Yeah, they go hiking and, well, not really hiking, kind of walking down behind the houses or whatever. And then she talks about her business, Wanderland Outdoors, which is basically luxury outdoor experiences, which is an oxymoron, if you ask me. Walk around a mosquito invested nature. Full agreement over here.
Starting point is 00:13:10 You would. Yeah, no, no, thank you. but she loves meditation and mindfulness which leads me to believe that she's going to be crazy because I don't know anybody into meditation and mindfulness that's not a nutcase and if you're out there being offended right now you know that it's true because yeah think about think about your inner voice what it's telling you why do you need to meditate because you're going you want to meditate so much think about it what led you there we got you to that place we'll take you to that place um
Starting point is 00:13:42 And I say this as someone who is, who is sort of like into yoga these days. But look, I mean, hey, I'm a bitch. Yoga's different. And also, I think it's probably projecting because I do meditate. And every time I try to meditate is because I'm like being horrible or like I have some like deep seated issue. And I just, it's so hard to meditate, like to just sit there. I do laugh at all like.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I mean, I like, I'm really, I really enjoy yoga. But I, um, I do laugh at all the. the things like if you um have this in your practice feel free to do this and think about the earth and what the earth gains and we're in our sixth season and blah blah i always am like like just tell me where how to stand you're like god just let me bend far enough to blow myself please only reason i'm here i'm like just please tell the hot guys to take off their shirts already we're 20 minutes in can we get they do it the kundalini up in this bitch Thank you.
Starting point is 00:14:43 It is pretty funny. I don't know if this is sort of a universal yoga thing, but definitely in Hollywood where there's like all these hot guys who go to the yoga classes. Like within like a minute, they're always like, oh, it's hot and they all take off their shirts. It's like, I mean, it's great for those to us who like to look, but it's also hilarious because they just, they just always want to show off. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Well, shit, I'd go to yoga if I knew it was going to be like that. I'd be the one like with an oversized t-shirt in the back, probably with a floaty around my waist. Like it's not even a pool. I'll put sunscreen on. I'll be like, oh, I'm just here to relax. And you guys go ahead. I'm the one with like a little puddle of sweat by my foot, slipping and sliding. And like, for some reason, I'm always the one where like when the, like, I'm like, I never go in the front row because I don't need people to see me in my bad form.
Starting point is 00:15:33 But then it's like the, the, we rotate. Somehow I'm always like in the front, like when there's like a rotation. It's like, okay, do this pose. and I'm like flopping over and losing my balance. And I'm just, I'm always the worst one in the class. Well, you know what? That's kind of the term. It's called to practice for a reason.
Starting point is 00:15:48 It takes practice. So Angel, so they're gossiping and they're talking about the ladies and who they like and who they don't like. And Angel's like, oh, you know, the funny story about Ashley, she was my bottle girl. She used to be my bottle girl. Yeah. And Kieran was like, yeah, I can see that. She's got bottle girl. It's a funny thing to remember.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I guess did she, is the implication that when she says my bottle girl, did she have events and she would hire Ashley or was she running a restaurant? I don't know. She says at L2, but I don't know what that is. L2 must have been a club. Oh, and we see pictures of Ashley as a bottle girl. And Angel says that she knows Wendy from college because she was roommates with her college big sister. and so she doesn't know her very well which is I like that she's like I don't really know her but I know you know I don't know her well but I know her and because of course Wendy's gonna try and be shady about it later and this girl's like yeah I don't I don't care about bragging that I know Wendy like who the fuck cares I saw Wendy and I like how she describes her because yeah I definitely remember Wendy in school she was the one walking down the quad and suits yeah I so see Wendy being Dwan wearing suits in college. So Kierna now is going to launch her storyline for the season.
Starting point is 00:17:17 She says, you know, she's like, you know, we've had this year in general, and I feel like there's been lots of microaggressions. So she's like, recently I was like in LA and like at the NDAB Awards. And she kind of got like weird about saying she was actually going to even going, even though she knew I was going. And she explains that like she recently, she was at an event. And she's like, and you could see me coming in because she was already seated. So anyway, I sit down and I'm waiting for her to turn around and like say like a little something and I got nothing.
Starting point is 00:17:49 So which is a different story than later on the issue. There's actually, I guess there's a series of these. There was the NAACP thing. There's this where they were at a seated event and Wendy, I guess, didn't turn around to say hello. And then there's the issue that comes up later on about sponsorship and speaking. Well, this is weird because even this one. even how we're hearing it now, I was at an event, you could see me coming in because she was already seated. So anyway, I sit down. Okay, so you saw her seated and you didn't walk up to her
Starting point is 00:18:19 and say hello? That's weird. I wouldn't sit down and wait for somebody to get up and come say hi to me. You see how I am at a party. If I see somebody I know, I walk right up to them and say hi and then I go sit down. Yeah, I'm going to go sit down and then like do a wait off with people. That's so weird. You were standing up. It was up to you to go walk over and say hello. agree. I also think that, like, in general, if you walk into a room and there's someone that you're hoping says hi to you, you have the ability to go and say hi to them instead. Like, you don't have to, like, make it into a, into a test. Yeah. But that being said, because you're just going to stress yourself out over it. Yeah. But that being said, like, Wendy is a bit of an asshole. And I think
Starting point is 00:18:57 that Wendy's like, okay, I spent all of last year trying to do, like, have, like, a nice edit and pretending like I like this girl. And now I'm off camera. I don't have to do it anymore. I'm not going to say hi to her. But at this point, honestly, I was actually on Kieran's side. I was like, despite the fact that she should have gone and said hi to Wendy, I was like, I can see Wendy being cold and like not feeling good. So I was like, yeah, we've heard it before from other housewives, right, about Wendy. So for that reason, I was like, okay, I could see Wendy being like that.
Starting point is 00:19:27 But the way she told the story, I was like, no, I'm going to, I'm going to go on Team Wendy for this one because she should have walked up to her and say hi. But that's, you know, that's just right now. It changes a million times over the course of the end. episode, right? I was about to say, like, this is my reaction right now. Guys, this can be a real time experience for us. You're going to see exactly how our emotional reaction changes to the storyline. But this is also my favorite thing about real housewives in particular is that this is what you worry about on these shows. Like, oh my God, she walked into a party who should have said hi
Starting point is 00:20:01 first. Like, I love those discussions. I love because it's actually so real. Yeah. I think it's so real. And this is, again, I'll, I'm going to get on the soapbox because who cares. But I, I, I, this is why I can't stand when people who don't watch these shows kind of like, brush it off as like, oh, isn't that just like women bickering? I'm like, yes, but it's actually also people talking about the shit that we all talk about. Because like, we all have those moments. We're like, I just had one the other night. I had one the other night where I went out to dinner with a friend and ran into another person. And I, and I felt like, that other person was like really kind of ignoring me and, and I had to, I had to engage with them for them to sort of engage with me and it was still nice, but I was like, that person was like icing me out a little bit. What weren't they? And then my friend was like, no, I don't think so. But like, that was something that was on my mind and that was something that we talked out. And then like, it ultimately was, it was not a big deal. But like, it was something we talked out. And so like when you watch these shows, people are talking about the shit that we talk about. And so I hate so much when people dismiss it like. it's it's not prestigious enough i'm sorry it's like oh i'm sorry i'm sorry that we're not watching a chef stare out into the sunset while he ponderes his own artistic qualities i'm sorry that we're talking about shit that all of us talk about sorry sorry sorry okay it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial uh so now let's go to the second bloom with ashley the The second bloom ball, okay.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Lots of fake flowers everywhere. It's, you know, I guess nice. And they're talking, all the housewives are like, what the fuck is this thing? And Wendy's like, second boom? Is it annual? I think I don't get it. Did we miss the first one? Yeah, Ashley is like, now that Karen's not there,
Starting point is 00:21:57 Ashley's trying to pick up the torch, the nonsensical party for herself thing. So, Giselle's like. Yeah, I'm confused because let's just have a party. Let's just say that we get, we're getting divorced. We're exciting and we're happy. We're excited and happy. Let's just do that. So Ashley's saying like how there's like there's so many people coming and she just wants to,
Starting point is 00:22:20 wants everyone to see her sprawled out on the stairs. Like there's a lot of staircase stuff that happens on Potomac. How many parties do we see? Everything's five stories there on the East Coast. How many parties have people coming down the stairs? But we did that when we go there. everywhere we go there, whenever we go visit there, and it's a great place, by the way, it's a great city. But it's all stairs. Like, what the hell? That whole city is built on stairs. It's crazy. Remember that time we went to an after party or something after one of our shows? And they're like, oh, it's just right down the street. It was not down the street. It was like a mile away. And then we got there and it was like three stories up. Only walking, too much. I was dying. And it was summer. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:10 So, yeah, it's a lot of stairs there. So it's typical. Here we are at a Real Housewives of Potomac Party with stairs. So people are coming in and we meet Tia. She comes with Giselle. And she met her at a Sotheby's event. She's a very high-end realtor. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And Tia was just selling a $6.4 million home. And we bonded over Raising Twins. She's a refined lady. If you're going to cuss somebody out, you at least cuss them out with, like, subject-verb conjugation. This is a woman who knows what dubious means. Ooh, I am prim improper, darling.
Starting point is 00:23:50 If I were a spice girl, that'd be posh spice. I definitely had some Rose Royces growing up. And we see pictures. She does come from wealth, which is always exciting for me. She's like, I'm from London, but my family is part of the royal family in Nigeria. And then we see her grandfather, who is. in like a wig, which I love.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And she's like, I am a princess. Where's my tiara? Where's my tiara? Can I, can someone bring it? No, I'm just, I'm just joking. I'm just joking. Not really. Where's my tiara?
Starting point is 00:24:19 Is anyone? So they come in and there's a random lady there dressed in a big flower dress and posing. And just I was like, what are you doing? Bridgeton? What is this? She's like, it's a spring theme. I'm not allowed to talk. It's like, yes, yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:24:36 that we see. Cherise. We all love some Cherise. Cherise cameo. Cherise always looks like she just came from a very humid
Starting point is 00:24:45 environment. Hello. Like her hair's always like, her hair was nice, but it's always sort of like flop down right on her face.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And she's like, oh, hello, love the accent. Is that a pun? Is that a pun? And then Kierna and Angel come and everybody's saying
Starting point is 00:25:02 hello and meeting each other. And Giselle met this chick already. She met Angel already. And they bonded because Giselle has a daughter named Angel. Okay. So now Stacey comes in and she's like, the Lord never ceases to amaze me about how he inspires me to be the bigger person. I'm so impressed with the Lord that he made me go to the television event that I'm supposed to go to. I love that she is somehow like
Starting point is 00:25:36 Adding a layer of, like, divine intervention to why she's going to the second bloom party. Oh, the Lord spoke to me and said, you better go, you better go to that party and enjoy a free cocktail from a lady dressed like a flower. Even after the way that Ashley treated me, I'm choosing to show up for Ashley, because this is an opportunity for us to reset and take a step forward. Excuse me, so Stacy comes in. She meets Tia. and Angel and Kierna but she's like ignores Kierna
Starting point is 00:26:10 you know because the Lord didn't tell her she had to actually be nice didn't have to reset with Kira just with Ashley so Kana waves like Hi hi hi hi
Starting point is 00:26:17 she's like oh and she says oh you didn't say hi to K she's nice to meet you it's like very cold so they were going to have a nice little beef this season and Wendy sees
Starting point is 00:26:29 Angel on goes and gives her a hug and she's like oh a familial face so yay do you remember Angel while you were at Temple. She's like, uh, no, I don't know her. Familiar face, yes, but same circle. No. Dun, dun, don't. Don. Wendy always cracks me up with this shit, because that was her storyline the first season. It was Karen being exactly this way to her and being like, oh, so we're on a board. I don't
Starting point is 00:26:52 know her. We're not friends. And her being like, we serve on boards together. And now she's doing the same thing. The student becomes the teacher. Absolutely. So then an announcement. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the second bloom ball. Without further ado, please direct your attention to witness the blossom of Duchess Dobby. Stacey's like, did he say Duchess? So Angel goes, yeah, bottle girl, the Duchess. I love a good come-up story. Good for her.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Good for her. So Ashley arrives at the top of the staircase. She's in her big gown, but there's like these big sparklers at the bottom. And she's like afraid to proceed any farther. because she thinks she'll be caught on fire. So she just sort of stalls out mid-staircase. Like, come on down. Come on, Ashley.
Starting point is 00:27:41 She's like, I can't do it. So she gives a speech. Her first bloom was as a wife and a mother to her two amazing counter-sitting sons. And as the seasons have changed and she transitions to the end of her marriage, some people were questioning whether she was even getting a divorce, which now she's doing herself this season. But here she is ready to embrace her. second bloom so thank you for coming tonight thank you all let's party so charisse goes up to one of
Starting point is 00:28:13 the party performers who's doing like acrobatics and she's like this is so neat i could get a job doing this what's the prerequisite she goes gymnastics oh that pulls me out my please show footage of chris falling over on one of those hoverboard things like yeah i don't think this is really meant for you chris question i have a question about blooms. So her first, Ashley's first bloom is her children, basically, and her marriage. And now this is her second bloom. And her kids are still like really young. I don't know why. I feel like there needs to be more space between your blooms. Otherwise, it feels like this is still part of the first bloom a little bit. You know, like I get it. It's like a new life. You're divorced,
Starting point is 00:28:58 new chapter. But I feel like if she said new chapter, I'd be okay. because chapters come one after another. But I feel like when a flower blooms, then it dies, and then it goes through a winter, and it's like a dark winter, and then it blooms again. And I feel like she's sort of gone from like, the flower died and, like, bloom the very next day, right?
Starting point is 00:29:20 I feel like I... No, that divorce was three years. That was a long time. But I feel like she was still blooming then. She never seemed like, like, it was never like, oh, Ashley went through a hard time. Like, I feel like Karen Hugar could have a second bloom. She went to jail.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I don't know. I feel like thematically, like she was dealing with that divorce, but I felt like, I don't know, I felt like she didn't hit her winter, right? Listen, she got rid of Gallum and now she's rich.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I say throw up party. Call it whatever the fuck you want to. She's like, wasting the money that I got out of Michael. Just call it that, you know? We would have been like, hell he is.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I guess, I guess, I mean, divorce is the shit storm. Listen, I support the party. I just was like, I didn't like the name of it. I would have liked it to be a new chapter party instead of a second bloom. That's all.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Just a. I just wish flowers weren't such wussies, you know? Like, just fucking be a flower. Like, why do I have to sit around and wait for you all year? It's ridiculous. Yeah, why do you have to end? You know how much water you're taking just sitting there doing nothing? Like the least you could do.
Starting point is 00:30:27 That's why I like a cactus. Like that big penis one behind me. Yeah. It just, you know, the thing is like a flower. It's like, feed me. Don't feed me. What the fuck do I care? I'm going to stay like this forever.
Starting point is 00:30:37 The thing is with the flower, I've got this one flower that I have up in my little herb garden area. And it like, it blooms at different parts of the year. And then it goes away for like a few months. And then it comes back. And I feel like every time it comes back, we have to like, be like,
Starting point is 00:30:54 oh my God, the flower's back. Look at it. The flower came back. But it's also kind of like, I feel like I'm being manipulated. It's like, you know you could be there the whole time. So why don't you just be there the whole time? That's what I'm saying, like, stop wasting my time.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Why don't I have to sit around and wait for you? It's like when you're going out with a friend and they make you sit there and wait for them to get ready for an hour. And then they come down and they're wearing the same thing they wore last week and the same hair. And then you have to praise them. And the same makeup. And you're like, you didn't even make any effort to do anything new. Like, did you just pick that up off the bedroom floor? You came down the stairs, the same fucking person I went out with last week.
Starting point is 00:31:28 And then you have to praise them because they're having their bloom of the of an outfit. It's like, you know what? if you were just fucking flowers the Timu bloom okay so Wendy is wearing a big over the top
Starting point is 00:31:43 you know kind of wedding dress to this thing and Giselle's like oh you're wearing a blue version of my pink dress I inspired you eh she's like not really this is archival oh you stole it from me archival so Kierna comes over and she's like
Starting point is 00:32:00 well, Wendy says, they're bantering a little bit about the dress. They're banter. Yeah. This one's two pieces. Yeah, they're just still talking about the dress. And Kierna's like, well, that's being a little rude because I'm sitting here too. And she's like, I wasn't being wooed. Like, Dazel and I were having a conversation. I'm not trying to be rude to you.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Just while it was rude, just to act like I'm not sitting here. Like, I hate that I'm interjecting. What are you doing? Kierna was called boring. And now she's going to come in and she's going to just try and start stupid shit. over nothing. And I'm actually here for it. I love effort. Yeah. I actually do love the effort. I really do. And also, well, because unlike a Mia, it feels like she's starting a fight like, like it feels like last year she kept stuff in. And this year, she's like, you know what? I feel
Starting point is 00:32:47 this way. I'm going to, I'm going to voice it. And I like that because I feel like it's like a little bit more authentic. That being said, when she sat down, I did rewind it two or three times. And someone went, hi. Like when she sat down, they literally said hi to her. And, and so, being ridiculous but i'm like i'm like at the same time like wendy does as you said she has a history of kind of icing people out and being kind of an asshole so i was still kind of like you know i'm a little bit on kieran aside for this okay even though it's like a little ridiculous that she's being like you're being rude to me i'm like well you did just sit down to interrupt their conversation they're allowed to finish their thoughts whatever so jelle like i'm usually ready to not be on
Starting point is 00:33:21 wendy's side but this whole episode i was like i'm swinging windy on this one yeah because even Give me a moment. She seems to be trying. Yeah, she seems to be trying so hard to start a fight. And I love that Wendy's just looking at her. Like, she knows exactly what she's doing. And she's like, oh, God. So now I have to fight with this one.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Oh, geez. Like she's not even into it at all. She's just like, oh, God, I'm bored even looking at you. I have to have a conversation with you. Oh, God. It's also like, oh, Kierna, be careful. Tread carefully because Wendy is, there are few people, I think, on Bravo, who are as, like, really good with their words,
Starting point is 00:33:58 as Wendy. Like Wendy like destroys people, I think, all the time. So Kieran is like, well, I've been wanting to talk to you because I felt extremely taken aback by you. I felt like we have this, you have this thing we do in your friendship that's phony. And like the energy that you and I have when we talk on the phone is not the energy that you meet me with on the outside. It's like completely different. Like, you know, remember when I called you, I chat with you and I said, hey, Wendy, are you going to the event? And you said, yeah, I'll be there. And I said, okay, I'm going to be sponsoring. And we see an image that shows that there's going to be like a gift bag and Kieran's products will be in the gift bag. And so I guess she was excited about this.
Starting point is 00:34:31 So she was telling Wendy this. And she's like, you know, and then you're like, great. I'll see you there. But then I get there and you're a speaker. And I was like, in my mind, I was like, I was like being like a little cheerleader to her. And then like slowly I was like, uh, my pom-pom starts like slowly fall down by my side. Like, um, wait, is this what you're Wait, what? What? Yeah, Wendy says so. What's wrong with that?
Starting point is 00:34:58 Well, but if I'm sponsoring and you're a speaker, then that, why wouldn't you share that? Well, maybe because you were basically kind of paying to be there in a way, right? You're showing up with products to give people and sponsoring the event. And she didn't want to upstate you by being like, oh, you're sponsoring. Well, I'm speaking there. Maybe. Or maybe that's giving her too much credit. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Maybe she assumed you knew she would be a speaker. I don't know. Yeah, maybe she assumed you read the program of the event that you were sponsoring. Yeah. And she's like, well, I was hyping you though. I said, you know, I didn't just say I'll see you there. I said, yes, come on, sponsor. Like, I was hyping you.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And she says, I don't think it was that moment to say, oh, by the way, I'm speaking. But that's just me. So I think she was trying to not make you know that. She was trying. She was actually, Wendy was being a really big person because she was saying, she wasn't like like clearly here yes kierna was excited about being a sponsor and wendy did not want to want up her i actually think that was incredibly gracious thing that wendy did and so now hearing this side i'm already like cringing because it's like oh kierna i was i was rooting for you but
Starting point is 00:36:09 now i'm realizing no you kind of got this one wrong so she says okay but then you know okay well here's where i think it looks different so at the event no hey girl no hi and she goes I was on the stage. What would you want me to do? Like, as I'm speaking, stop what I'm doing and wave at you. And she goes, well, if I see my friend in the crowd, I'm going to wave to her. I'm going to do a friendly nod to her or something. And she's like, I was speaking.
Starting point is 00:36:39 At this point, I was like, okay. No, sorry, Kiarna, you lost. No, I'm team Wendy now. I was like, I was cracking up. I was like, getting the full story, I was dying. I was like, you set me up to be anti-Wendy, and it turns out you're the idiot in this situation. So Wendy's like, okay, so this girl's mad, but wouldn't, shouldn't I be mad that she's not celebrating my thing and saying congratulations? Like, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:37:06 So she goes, okay, well, prime example was back at the NAACP Awards. We go to the red carpet, and the first thing you say to me is, oh, hey, did you do your own makeup? You did that. And Wendy just starts laughing, and she's like, I'm confused. Okay, but maybe she does. just said like, oh my God, did you do your own makeup? Like maybe she meant like, it looks nice. Who did it? They could go both ways. Did you do it? That one could go both ways. We need to hear how it was said because it could be said, I was thinking the same thing. It could have been actually
Starting point is 00:37:34 like, oh my God, this looks right. Did you do that yourself? That looks great. But it also could have been a dig. And I don't know which way, I don't know which way it was, but now based on the larger context of Kierna being super sensitive that Wendy did not stop her speech on stage to like acknowledge Karen walking in the room. I'm going to assume that Wendy said it nicely, but Kierna was feeling self-conscious about the fact that she did her own makeup, that she only, like she, she sensed negativity in it.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Yeah. So she's like, that was shady. I mean, who says that to their friend? And then they show a picture, makeup and question. It's like, don't, don't, don't here in his face, which is, by the way, perfectly fine makeup. But I left that the editors were like, Oh, look at her hideous makeup.
Starting point is 00:38:22 So Kierna's like, do you understand where I'm coming from? And she's like, no, because you're reading into things. But if that's how you receive it, then I can accept it. And she's like, I'm just confused. She doesn't know how to be a genuine friend. I mean, I just need clarity. And you're just acting like, I mean, what the hell? So then we cut to Giselle, and she's talking to Angel about Ashley,
Starting point is 00:38:45 about how sweet she is. And Ashley goes, and Gizzo goes, oh, yeah. until she's not. So then Ashley is like, well, just don't lie to me, okay? Because, you know, your breath can stink, which you know, some people. And she's like, goes, it happens. It happens. They got to, excuse me, and the angel's like, well, that's a little passive aggressive.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And Stacey's like, are you saying my breath stinks? She's like, well, no, I didn't say you. And she's like, well, I'm asking you, does it stink? And then she breathes into Ashley's face. I forgot about that. And then she was like, stop, stop. I just got rid of Gallum. Don't bring it back in my nose.
Starting point is 00:39:27 There's a lot of bacteria in there. That's a lot of bacteria. And she's like, bacteria. And Zazel says, I think it's internal. I think the breath is coming from her lower stomach. And here's why I don't think that they're just, I don't think what, that they're like coming up with the story. I think because they're like kind of laughing as they're saying.
Starting point is 00:39:46 It's like you can see they're like, you know there's like a difference between being like shady in your interview versus like laughing because you know you're being so bad by admitting this truth but like you're going to say it anyway and like they're all laughing she's like she's coming from the lower stomach and angel's like linda goes well i don't know what was going on but her mouth definitely greeted me before she greeted me and then stacey is saying um like you know what you know i want to have a moment alone with you Ashley, because I feel like when you two are together, it's like a tag team back again. I'm like, listen, Stacey, you had your moment alone with Ashley before and you stormed out.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah, and I was like, that's a lie. Don't start that bullshit, Stacy. Because she's like, I'm going to talk to you so you guys can't tag team me. She's like, that is a liar. That is a liar. And I was like, we're trying to get to know her better, but her breath does stink. And then it goes, yeah, that was a little tart. So they're cackling and high-fiving each other.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So Stacey's like, well, I hope you can appreciate me showing up, even though that you accused me of things that I know are not true. I still came here tonight for you. Jesus told me to. Okay, well, something smells fishy and note that I'm not making a dig about your breath when I say that. And like, I still move past that. So, like, why are you hiding anything? Well, my question is, why do you have to be messy?
Starting point is 00:41:14 Well, you hide behind the word friend, and you have been lying to me since day one. Well, you ask me and you talk to me then. Well, I don't feel like I can come to you. You've been shady to me since day one, Ashley. Well, I don't feel like we can come to you and, like, authentically with you because of you lie. Oh, geez. So then we go back to Wendy and Kay, and Wendy's like, I asked you if you did your own makeup, and I said to them, and... But then they hear the yelling.
Starting point is 00:41:44 And she goes, oh, my God, what's happening out there? And Ashley's like, you can get out of here with your science 11 shoes. Gallop away, okay? She starts galloping. Teresa's like, we're missing all the fun. Ashley loves coming for people's feet. Yeah. So then Corey is there.
Starting point is 00:42:03 That's, um, was his name Corey? Was it AJ? I forget. But like it was, uh, it's, uh, what's her face is, um, what's her friend's face's friend, Stacy's friend who we met last season. And he was great. He had like one scene last season, and we loved him. And so he comes in and he's like, okay, you guys are too loud.
Starting point is 00:42:20 And then tears like, what is happening out here? And Ashley's like, you've been lying. I'm sick of it. I've reached my limit. So Stacey's like, well, messy Ashley Darby, you're like a little imp. Imp. Why are you being so messy? You're like a little imp.
Starting point is 00:42:41 So good. So Sharise is like, we're missing all the fun. And so Corey's like, okay, what do you guys need to fix this? How are we going to fix this? Do you want to see the divorce papers? Do you need to see the document? And he's like, if she does that today, can we all have a good time together? There's a lovely woman over there doing backbends.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Well, I don't handle divorce like you do, Ashley. Ash is like, well, it doesn't work that way. You're in a full-grown woman. You are a full-grown woman who came into this group. misrepresented yourself. You get your finger out of my face. You are the devil. Don, don't, don't, don't.
Starting point is 00:43:21 That's a devil. The devil. So funny. Really hilarious. Really great start to Potomac. Love to see it. Love it. Love to have it back. Laugh my ass off. Great show.
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