Watch What Crappens - #3030 RHOSLC S604 Part Two: Warm and Muzzie

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

This is part 2 of 2Real Housewives of Salt Lake City features more Muzzie, who is giving the most heinous moms of Bravo a run for their money. Speaking of mos, Whitney tries to explain to Brittani how to be one and Mary renovates the church that broke up her relationship with her own mom. Happy Muzzies Day! To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watcher Crappins ad-free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. What's what happens when there's so much than crap is. Welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, we'll go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way, you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. So, um, she's like, I don't know what she's talking about. Swipe. It's a sliced cucumber. Delicious.

So she's like, I have my own credit card. So I'm not going to engage with her crazy I thought we left on a great note. And I was like, I thought you guys left great too. It was love, tears, and huggies after you all asked me to sign your napkins after that great monologue I gave. I am sick of her throwing out grenades because she feels like, well, I'm gonna deflect

and you talked about my kids. And I didn't even talk about your kids. She's like, no, well, you did talk about our kids' product line. You talked about Fresh Wolf. And it would never have come up. Had she not said, you're jealous of me. You're jealous of my shiny hair. hair. I'm like, everybody has nice hair in this room, except for Brittany. Your hair is no better

than anyone else's. It's dyed bowling ball black. But when you go that dark, you don't have shine. I was like, see, that's the thing. Right there, Angie. That's what makes it hard to support you because amidst all the good and all the hurt, you come in with something really horrible like bowling ball black hair. This Angie's dizzes are so funny. When you go that dark, you don't have Shine. Burn. Okay, that's not nice, Angie. We are women. Women who have follicles. Okay, Heather, but saying I'm using someone's credit card to go on vacation, she is taking everything slung at her and slinging it back at me. And now I have to respond with something low or walk away. I'm pissed. It's like, but you're definitely going to see her again. And I don't think you should come in hot. Okay. You should probably leave that your hair doesn't have shine thing at home. It's not my fault When she goes into the gutter I should understand

It's just the nature of her bowling ball hair So Angie is like I just want to be in a better place with her And I don't know But I don't know how I'm going to react When I see her next I'm like spoiler alert You will lose your mind

You will be standing up And you'll be doing your slow finger point That is how you will do it It's always her slow like musical number Fingerpoint like start It goes low and up and high you shouldn't say that bowling ball. She does a circle, like she's stirring something from under a bowl.

Yes, like this. And then she rolls her head, too, on the opposite way. It cracks me up every single time. She's like a little machine. Okay, so now, oh, sorry, go ahead. No, I was just going to elaborate on the motion of the finger point, but I decided, I don't think we have to. It's an audio medium. Are you good?

You're good with that. I think I can end. I think you ended at the perfect button. Yes. Oh. So then we go to Brittany and Whitney. at Orchid Dynasty shopping for plants. Hopefully that they can't kill.

So we go to this and them trying to figure out plants is hilarious. She's like, I want a plant I can't kill. And Whitney's like, I have this one and I don't know what it's called, but it's not dead. Oh, that's good. Thank you, Whitney. Thank you. I only have killed it. Now it's on the pole because it realized what it wanted to be.

So Britney's like, you know, after the RV trip... There's so much dirt in the living room now. Justin and I have been rolling around it on a tarp to make art. So Brittany says that after the RV trip, like, you know, her relationship with Whitney's been very tense. And, you know, she felt like when Lisa went after Whitney's business at the luncheon, she's like, I realized I had done the exact same thing. And I feel badly about it. Okay, so here are the things I feel badly about in order. I feel badly that Jared is mad at me.

I feel badly that I was like Lisa. I feel badly that I didn't park very nicely. It might be a hard for the person next to me to get in and out of their car. And then, let's see, I think the number six through nine is I feel bad that I didn't DVR things. And then number 10, oh, I feel bad that I'm ignoring my daughter and her requests for what she wants out of me. Okay, moving on. Thank you for apologizing. I really appreciate it.

And I feel really, really bad for what I said about you and Jared, because that's not me. I don't go to that level. I don't make fun of people for sucking dick, well, except for just for jazz. Or, you know, the numerous times I've accused people of cheating on the show. But otherwise, no, it's not me. She's like, I know. And, you know, I have to say, I was shocked. I was just shocked.

I mean, you might have been a bottle of wine presented to me right in front of my mother at my home. shocking, shocking that you would do that. So they go outside, they see more plans. I'm like, oh, Brittany loves it. And so Whitney's like, so are you and Jared still together? Because Brittany says that Jared's helping her do stuff to her house. And so she's like, I thought you ended the engagement. She's like, oh, yeah, we're together.

I mean, we did end the engagement, but we're still together. But what does that mean? Well, it means that we're like working towards getting engaged again. Britney, no, don't do that. He is so good to me though. Like, we're really trying to take things slow in the name of our kids. And at this point, Brittany has picked up a cactus. And for some reason, she is stroking the cactus.

And she does it for the rest of the scene. There's like this little, little baby like swarrow or something. And she has both of her fingers. And she just keeps like slowly jerking off this cactus. And I was like, this all makes sense. This is a woman who likes to inflict pain on herself. Okay. Now I know why she's.

with Jared. The same reason why she is literally stroking a cactus, the least strokeable plant that there is with two fingers. Totally. But he's really good to me, you know? But do you know what Olivia wants from you? Who? Olivia. I'm sorry.

Who's that? Your daughter. Right, right. Oh, that one. Well, I think she just wants to see me be consistent with not choosing a man over her, but it's hard because I'm in such a good space with Jared. He only texted three other people

this morning. I mean, he's really showing growth. He's shown so much growth. Is that like Olivia's hard like boundary? Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, it is. Like, she just wants you to stop dating for like a minute. But he's like,

I'm not sure. Like, were you listening to Olivia when she was talking to you, Brittany? Maybe you should ask her because think of the grand scheme of life. Is it really that hard to stop? for a short period of time to prove that she's worth it? Wow.

I mean, that's a big ask if that's what she would really need, you know? I mean, what else could she want? I mean, I sing her songs from the Miss Saigon playbook every night, and I would think that's more than enough for her daughter, right? It's her or me. Which is one of the great songs from there, but it's kind of fitting. It's her or me, Brittany. Think upon the words, Britney.

No offense. She should come first, even as an adult. Because, you know, I've had my own ups and downs with my parents, especially my dad's wigs. And my mom and I were estranged for a very long time. I understand that mother-daughter relationships are hard. But even when I wasn't talking to my mom, I never stopped loving her. I never stopped needing her or wanting her.

And needing her, especially as we've... You got this. This is a long line. This is a long line. Hold on. Hold on. That Bush is telling me something. Did you hear it?

It said, go back to the pole. I did really have a lot of ups and downs with my parents, but mainly because I was going up and down on my pole. You know, it's hard. Why is your different latitudes from them? Why are you going up and down right now? there's a pole in here Whitney that's holding plants why is your face bleeding oh is it must be coming from my hands why are your hands bleeding covered in blood

Britney's just standing there covered in blood wiping her face like oh I just maybe that's a good point but the thing I don't understand about this conversation is Olivia didn't tell her she had to stop dating Jared but Whitney's like yeah now now you have to stop dating Jared for Olivia? Well, here, first of all, I don't know if stopping dating Jared for a month is going to show anything to Olivia because it sounds like they're so on and off that I don't think a month, month is like not enough time. That being said, if Brittany and Jared are in a good place like she claims and if they really love each other enough that they're working towards engagement, I think he would be understanding and not only understanding, I think he would

encourage a break so that way she could repair her relationship with her daughter. And I don't, if he is not for that, well, then I would say then he's an asshole, but we right know he's an asshole. But like, that's a red, that's another red flag for for Britney to think about. Yeah. And she's like, well, I want to be there for Olivia. And I want to be, did somebody turn on a red light in here? The blood, it's in your eyes. Oh, I shouldn't have wiped. Stop looking that. It's not ice cream. Stop licking that cactus. It's not a cone. But it's so soft.

She's rubbing it on her cheek. Stop it. No, it's not. Your cheek is falling off. But I want to be there for Olivia. I want to be that rock. Like, my mom was for me, but it's just kind of impossible because she doesn't make space for me. Like, what am I supposed to do?

Just sit at home? I mean, she's not home. I'm alone. What happens if I'm alone? I'm just sitting there alone. All alone. Watching my old Hallmark movies over and over again, again and again. Thinking that girl sure is pretty.

I hope she gets someone before it's too late. Brittany, your eyeball is hanging out of your eye. Winnie just slaps her. Get a hold of yourself and not the cactus. Wait a minute. Why are you speaking to me upside down? Take a pull where you can get it. Get off that ficus.

Give it 30 days and see what happens with Olivia. You know, it's like think about your ups and downs. It's ups and downs. That's my thing. It's the pull dance of life. Think about your dating life. It's been messy. Sort of like your face with all that cactus blood on it.

And you could use a break from rubbing the cactus on your face. Stop it. And if Olivia, if that's what she needs to see from you, then it should be a no-brainer. That's how I live my life doing lots of no-brainer things. I don't know why I do that. It's almost like I have no. Couldn't really see that while way through. Nine.

And Brittany's just standing there, you know, bleeding, stroking the cactus. She's like, Brittany, are you listening to me? Make an effort for your daughter. It might not ever, you might not ever have another chance. And Brittany is just like standing there like Carrie. She literally says, Brittany, put the cactus down. It's like a hostage situation. Please, I beg of you.

Put the cactus down. Let them out of the bank. Just think about your daughter. Come on. She puts her hands on her shoulders. She's like shaking her. It's your daughter. It's your daughter.

A fly just lands on Brittany's face as she stares off into space, not getting it at all. It's like, oh my God, Brittany. Jesus. Do you feel it? But let's be honest. Brittany is not listening to anything Whitney says because she was like, do you feel it? It's your daughter. She's like, uh-huh, it's your daughter.

Don't you feel it inside, inside your heart? Yes, date Jared Moore. No, your daughter. You might not ever have another chance to date, to date Jared. You're right. I didn't need to call him right now. So we cut to commercial and then we go to Bronwyn's house. Okay, so Bronwyn, here we go.

Bronwyn and muzzie, terrorist muzzie, awful human fucking being muzzy. God, what a monster this lady. is jeez you know she's a monster because she is literally standing over her latest conquest which is deflating and packing up a literal monster one of bronwyn's like dinosaur blow up outfits because we see you see muzzie and she's like at first i thought she was like unfolding a dress and then it's like it's like it's sort of tarpies like it's a jacket and then you see claws come out of it and i was like what the hell is muzie doing and she's and she's just folding it and then it becomes clear it's like it's that inflatable dinosaur thing and mussey is like well this looks like it was

used for fun so let's pack it away because fun things don't have any use here in a household okay we'll be burning this so you can't embarrass me anymore at the airport do you know how difficult it is for me to walk into the airport everyone says oh there's muzzie's pregnant dinosaur daughter again so the uh the comma the comma brows are in full comma effect they're upside down the brows and she looks like a McDonald's sign that's been hit by lightning and it's just like split down the middle and like tilting over like the arches fell in on themselves a little bit no the arches have like it's split down the middle and now the arches are falling outwards from each they're like all the way over here someone tape the arches back together and they're almost

like a quote that fell into itself like we had our like quotation marks and then they fell forward towards each other. The point is there are arched things that fell over. So Gwen and her boyfriend walk into the foyer where Muzzy and and Browen are. And they announce that they're about to go bowling to their bowling league. And Brahman's like, you guys are lying. There is no bowling league. They're like, yes, mother.

Like we go every Wednesday. Okay. Like, well, I don't see Lisa Barlow's hair. So unless I see that and then I don't believe there's any bowling happening here. Yeah, so Bronwyn's like, yeah, they're lying. They're not going to bowling mother. Okay, they've been going for a couple of weeks. They keep saying, oh, we're in a bowling league.

And I was asking them all these questions, like, where'd you hear about the bowling league again? You know, and Mozy's like, oh, so they're having private time. Just those two in Satan curling up on a couch. I suppose you don't even care where his penis is at 10 p.m. Bronwyn. Well, that's got to freak you out. Huh? She was like, well, they don't, they don't have enough space in the East Wing, huh?

Huh? Huh? I was like, well, can you imagine if I said to you, I'd like my boyfriend to live, live with me at our, at our house? Can you imagine? She goes, wouldn't happen. Yeah. She's like, yeah, that never would have happened. You're a failure.

You're a mother failure. So she talks about Gwen being very close to the same age that she was when she was pregnant. And so, you know, having her mom here and judging her, how she parents Gwen is really bringing up how much shame that she felt and how much maybe shame she still feels and that Muzzy has this idea of what a perfect Mormon family looks like and I'm just never going to fit into that

for her. I'm never going to fit into that for her. Are you done folding that dinosaur? Bessie, please. You're making me uncomfortable. You know what, Muzzy? It really doesn't bother me. I know it doesn't bother you. That's why it doesn't bother her. She's following your example.

So I hope you're ready for your kid to be stoned to death In the town square for being a whore Because that's what you're raising Let's be really careful how we say that Okay No I'm sorry, is there a nicer way to say whore? Okay, whatever example you're doing, she's copying. That's what's happening.

She's copying you look at that little bobbed, that little bobbed slut walking out of here to go bowling. Okay, let me just drop. my chin to my clavicle slowly and that's not whatever example like I'm out in the streets mussy I I just set out to be very different with her and I don't want any sneaking and stuff I just want her to openly tell me you know you're doing it no I like that but guess what I like socialism too doesn't work yeah it'd be great to have everything paid for doesn't work just like your parenting, just like

your parenting. Okay. Did the way you parented me work because you didn't want me having sex and Newsflash, I had a baby by myself, Muzzy, so it didn't stop me. Not quite, not quite, but not because of a lack of effort,

that's for sure. Well, BYU was trying to make sure I wasn't having sex, mm-hmm, and you were trying to make sure I wasn't having sex, mm-hmm, and guess what? It was happening. No matter what. Yeah, I boned, a lot of boating.

Bagina was open for business, okay? It was a drive-thru. Lisa Barlow almost went through because she thought there were French fries. Everyone could go in there, Muzzi. Get used to it. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappence commercial.

Well, I was never once thinking about you doing that because I knew all along you were taught you don't smoke, you don't drink, you don't have premarital S-E-X. and I would have put my head on the chopping block that you would have not done any of those three ever. Really, it's not too late. Yeah, not too late. Is that an offer?

I know, I know you're a big fan of the tough love with me. Okay, I know, and I'm not a big fan of receiving tough love. But you see how better that works, right? No, it doesn't work any better, Muzzy. It doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't. It does. No.

You know, I had a really, I had really hard day still. You know, I would not be jazzed if Gwen had a baby at the same time that I did. I would handle it very different, though. You didn't let me have a baby shower. You didn't, you weren't happy about it. You didn't let anybody be excited for me. And I was not to be celebrated, and it was not something to be excited about. Remember that?

Remember that, Mazzy? She's like, mm-hmm, that's right. That's right. I'd do it again. And also, this is a good time to remind people that while this very serious conversation is happening. Mussey is wearing a t-shirt with some sort of cartoon figure whose eyes are bulging out saying, everything's fine. Everything's fine. Which I love. We talked about it on the trailer. And when I saw that t-shirt again, I was like, oh, yeah. I mean, that's, it was like that, and that was

clearly Muzzy while Bronwyn was pregnant talking to her friends. Like, hey, Muzzy. So I heard your daughter got a little knocked up. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. Oh, my God. So Bronwyn says that she, you know, was really different. when she got pregnant because they were at a baby gap because both of Bronwyn's sisters were pregnant at the same time that she was. I mean, Utah, can we slow the fuck down? I mean, my God. Yeah. What do they put in the water over there? Jeez. We really don't need to have so many babies all at once. Okay. And because also it leads to baby gap stories. Like we don't need baby gap stories. But basically Bronwyn's like, yeah, they went to the baby gap and her sisters were pregnant. And the salesperson was like, oh, are you

having a little girl. They said that to Bronwyn. And Bronwyn had to say, no, she's talking like, we're going for my sisters, basically. She's like, oh my God, I'm sorry. I thought you were pregnant. And I shouldn't have assumed. And she's like, I am. And so then the lady, the salesperson said, so is grandma buying something

for your baby also? And my mom said, no. I mean, that is wild. This woman. It is so cruel. Like, what? This lady is so gross. I mean, it just gets worse and worse with her.

Just worse. And she's just sitting there proud as can be nodding like, you bet your ass I did. Like, good one, Muzzy. Yeah, seriously. And just the whole level, just the whole layer of Bromwin's sisters also being pregnant, but being pregnant the right way

while she's like having to go through it and being like left out while everybody else is getting to celebrate their babies. It makes this like 10 times more disgusting. I would like to see an update on that front personally. I'd like to see how Let's see how everyone's doing. Yeah, if those girls are divorced or whatever.

I hope they've all disappointed Muzzy in some way. That's the thing. I don't want something bad to happen to those girls, but I want them to be the bigger disappointment. Because as far as I could tell, as you mentioned last week, Ron was doing well enough that that's the place where Muzzy's living. So tell me more. Yeah, Muzzy is fine to take her money.

You know what I mean? She couldn't even buy her a fucking baby gap, but she's fine to spend all her money and live in her mansion. You know, fuck Muzzy. I cannot stress this enough. Fuck, Muzzy. This woman is terrible. I hate this lady. I hate her. I'm so triggered even watching her and her stupid little nods like she's, oh, yeah, you're right I did. You're right I did, Bronwyn. Monster. You're a monster of a woman. And I'm so glad that Bronwyn is bringing you on here to drag your ass. Because Bronwyn's like, I don't even have to say anything. America will drag you for me. So come on TV, Mom. Come on, Mussey. That being said, I was like deeply entertained by the scene. Not in like, oh, this is so funny, but it's more like, like when you see someone like this, it was almost like a stereotype.

It's like it's riveting. And it's like a stereotype of like the evil mom. I mean, she's got the eyebrows and everything. And that she kind of isn't cowed into softness. And like we, actually, you know,

we didn't mention there was also Riba and Sutton. It was another great example of this. And like these evil moms come on. And at least Riba had like, they gave her like a little bit of a redemption moment. but these moms come on and you just sort of see where all the damage comes from and it's just like wow and I was like I was like this is like it felt kind of like the sort of campy it was like in a certain way muzies almost campy just the way her presentation is and how evil she is like if this were scripted this would be like gay canon right so um yeah like eating mcclurg would play her in an 80s movie you know just being like the evil And like drag queens would act it out on stage, right? But it's a reality show.

So the fact that it's real is like, oh. Seriously. So Bronwyn is saying, you know, she tries to tell herself, she's tried to tell herself over the years that, you know, maybe Muzzy didn't mean to be horrible to her the way she's being. And maybe she meant it in a different way or maybe she really loved her, but she was just giving her tough love. But now she's realizing she didn't misunderstand anything, you know. And she still thinks that when she got pregnant 20 years ago, that the most hurt person in that situation was the mom, you know? And so Muzzy's like, well, yeah, well, daddy's position and where he was with his job at the temple.

And she goes, yeah, yeah, it was embarrassing for daddy. Mm-hmm. I get it. I get it. I get it. She's like, but it also was like really about me and what I wanted to do. And I was really the last person considered in that, which is like, it's crazy that, like, it's still about like, oh, my God. But dad had a position at the temple.

How mortifying for her dad. It's like, you have a, your daughter should be the priority. It's your daughter. So Muzzy's like, well, I also. God, give her a cactus to stroke, please. I've never wanted a cactus so badly in here. Send it to Muzzy. No, but Muzzy is the biggest victim and she explains why.

Well, I also felt like there were periods where, okay, Gwen's just dropped in my daycare, you know. There's is, I just have Dwen now. Bronwyn's like, I don't know what you're talking about that Gwen was dropped at you. She goes, what are you saying? I was at work paying bills for her. She's like, well, what would have happened if I didn't take her? You would have been somewhere else. We didn't want her to go into foster care.

Oh, really? Oh, really? Now it's foster care. Fuck off. What kind of grandmother doesn't help take care of their grandchild? What is wrong with you? I'm sure you took care of your other daughter's children all the time and had no problem with it. Exactly.

She's basically say, she's not saying we took care of Gwen because she's our granddaughter and we love her and we love you. and family's most important family first she's instead saying well we didn't want to take care of her but we didn't want to go to foster care so this is what we did we're just like yeah she's saying we had to take care of our daughter because you're a lazy nincompoop who made terrible decisions and you forced us to do all this stuff instead of you know even if she worded this a little bit differently and said you know what brahm when you make it out that i don't love my granddaughter i helped raise my granddaughter i loved her i took care of her all the time when you like even if she did it that way i could give her a little bit of credit. But the way she's turning it like, oh, you fucking lazy

idiot. And of course I had to take care of your illegitimate baby while you were, you know, off scrimping and saving. She could have said, like, listen, something I think would be a very valid point, which is like, we were ready to start our new chapter of our life. I mean, have you been listening to Heather Gay? And then all of a sudden, next thing you know, we're raising a baby again. And we had to make sacrifices. And I want you to also acknowledge that we had to make sacrifices. But, like, she's not saying that. She's basically saying, like, you're lucky you had us.

That's basically what she'd say, which is really cruel. She's a mean, mean, mean witch. So Bronwyn's like, well, I would have worked a second job. And you know that I never would have let her go into foster care, Muzzy. That's really dark. She goes, oh, now you never wanted her to be adopted. It was always, I'm keeping her. I was like, what?

What are you? Like basically Mussey is saying like We tried to get her adopted away We tried to put her on the market The market was real good Interest rates were great And Bron was like

I have a lot of grace for the fact That you had never been in a situation Of raising a child That was doing something so different Than what you wanted them to do Yeah especially the last one You Loser

You're doing your best And just because I don't say Oh, you're so wonderful you're so amazing. Doesn't mean I don't think you are just busy being careful that you don't think you're so wonderful, that you're too good. That's it. I just wanted to make sure you were dropped down a peg or two or 500. She is too good for this shit and she should have your ass in a state run home in under five minutes. I cannot believe she's keeping you in this house. And I can't believe Todd is letting her. If I heard someone speaking to my partner like this, that, you would be out of there. You would be getting nothing from me. You're horrible and you have a lot to repent for. Ma'am. Shame on you. Shame. Shame on muzzy. Nothing redeemable here. Shame. Okay. Well, let's go. She's trying to daughter shame Bronwyn when

Bronwyn's daughter is doing great. She's in a stable relationship. She's at college. She's like happy. She's even got her mother's bob. Okay, she's copied her mother's bob. That's how much She loves her mother. Do you see Bronwyn around here trying to walk around like she's got the, you know, McDonald's arches that have been split by lightning covering the wrong sides of her face to look like you? No, muzzie. Okay.

I think Bronwyn wins in this situation. Gwen is doing great. Gwen's doing great. She's on Wednesday nights, she's either bowling or having sex, but either way, she's playing with balls. And I think she is in a great position. So now we go, since this is an episode about mothers, let's finally have our last mother scene because mother icon Meredith Marks is here yes okay Sean okay Sean so Angie and Meredith

mean to get coffee which is odd because they've spent the past two years hating each other and screaming at each other and Angie says look Meredith and I are no Laverne in Shirley but we've been trying with each other so I just want to make Meredith aware that Lisa's not the Laverne to her Shirley, or the hero, to her Zeus, if you know what I'm saying. Cut to Meredith, just shoving jars of caviar in her mouth one by one as her mouth gets bigger and bigger. Yeah, well, stop coming down the supply line. We're gonna make it in Salt Lake.

I love that Auntie is just so transparent. She's like, oh, Lisa wants to get mad at me. I will make Meredith mad at her. I know, she really is. So they walk in and Meredith is like, well, shlameel, schlamazel, Haas and Fever Incorporated, am I right? Just like, oh, I don't understand that.

But anyway, you look good. How's your store? And Meredith is like, well, I'm going to renovate my store and make a very small. They'll be a small jewelry store in the front. And in the back, they'll be an area for a bassinet where Brooksie can go to sleep every night. Wow, that is a lot that has happened since I've seen you.

So she tells her that. the story. She's in the salon. The girl comes in, gets some fresh wolf products, and then Lisa tries to start a war with her over text. And Meredith is like, well, perhaps she needs a little bit of grace, because everything that ties back to kids, we all get very reactive. And surely you remember the little snuffle up ago that happened with my toddler. Do not speak about my toddler. I'm warning you right now. And she's like, I'm just going to ignore that part and keep going forward. I don't want to hurt you.

But in the past, when you and I were not really in a great place, Lisa was calling me and encouraging me to dig up information about family members and relatives of yours. And she was telling me, oh, Google this person and here's their name. And this is how you spell it. And there's things out there about bankruptcy and shoplifting. Oh, really? Well, I'm sure that if you had looked, you would have found some excellent. excellent fine bean recipes that require four people in a kitchen to make them together.

So, guilty. Guilty. Well, she wanted to intimidate so you would stop coming at me, and I didn't. And that's not who I am. I am a woman who owns seven lunatic fringes coming soon to NBC. My CTV is back, baby. But obviously, it was Lisa. That's who Lisa is.

and Lisa is doing her research on everyone, true or not, and she's just going to keep it back here in case you come for her and she would launch it like a bomb. Well, I just don't understand why she would tell somebody that I'm not getting along with, and I'm getting along with her to go try and dig up dirt that isn't even true about not even me, but that would be hurtful to me, but also to my family.

So she tells us that she doesn't really work. believe this shit from Angie. She's like, why am I going to believe Angie over this other lady who I'm friends with? I don't believe her. I'm going to, but I will be talking to her about it. It's also, it's a funny thing to be like, just so you know, Lisa, she keeps things in her back pocket to throw out like a bomb. And I'm going to show this to you by keeping something that I've had in my back pocket and throwing it at you like a bomb. Exactly. This is the old Margaret Joseph's. Beware of Margaret Joseph's because she keeps things in a vault and then she's ready. Yeah.

Oh, gosh. Well, here we go. So it looks like Lisa is off the hook for now for part of the season. And now we're going to move into Meredith versus whoever. I don't know because the preview looked like it was Angie yelling at Lisa. And Angie says, look, I know you're going to tell Lisa. But that's okay because she said it word for word. I'm standing in my truth.

So. Well, let's see what happens, everybody. Let's see how it goes. A really good episode with camp and fights and drama and emotional stuff and real stuff and a cactus. You know, it was good because they didn't really rely on the, you know, fighting the whole time. They can't do that every episode, obviously. But a lot of, I feel like a lot of shows, and especially Housewives shows, tend to dip when they're not really doing that. And when we have to go to their home scenes and people are struggling.

so hard to come up with something to talk about in their home scenes. And this one, they all just have such actual fascinating things happening. You know, the Muzzy and Bronwyn thing is crazy and interesting to watch. And more relatable, probably than the Monica thing, because a lot of us have mothers that we can kind of relate to that in a way. And then there's the Whitney going back to the poll thing, fascinating stuff. That was probably the realest moment that spoke to my soul. Mary and her church stuff is still endlessly fascinating to me. And then also the Brittany storyline of just not getting this whole thing about why her kids hate her is.

It's sad, but it's like sadlarious. You know what I mean? You almost wonder like, how can somebody be this stupid? And like you almost wonder like with someone like Muzzy, was there someone, God forbid, like Whitney? But was there someone in her life saying, look, you need to put this aside and be a better mom to your daughter right now? And was she just not able to hear it? Because we see that Brittany is not hearing what Whitney is saying. We give Whitney a lot of shit.

But Whitney was being absolutely right. Whitney was like, this is your daughter. You have to prioritize. You have to make sacrifices for your daughter. You have to, I mean, there are a lot of times we're on this podcast. We're like, oh, God, that kid is just a whiny brat. You can't, like, they just have to think, like, you can't give up everything for your child. But in a situation like this, it's like, you have to.

And you want, and you can see Brittany. you can see the the hamster wheel not really moving the hamster wheel is never really moved for for brittany and you have to wonder is this this the same that this happened to some of these other toxic moms we've come across on the show i mean i think i think with muzzy you know just coming from a really religious family i saw this all the time people like that you know whose daughters got pregnant and it was i i saw a couple of good examples you know one was a family member and it was it was like the shame of their that side of the they were just like oh it was this huge thing there was so much shame involved and they eventually came around but you know muzzie never came

around and then there was another one that was like okay we're going to deal with this and there was a special school in el paso for pregnant girls so i'm sure it's still there like a high school so i mean it happened a lot so just watching all the different things but in a super religious household no i'm sure that Muzzy was surrounded by people where she felt completely justified. You know, it's like those are those are the rules and anything against that is anti-God and we have to impress the, you know, impress everybody because your dad is working at the temple and all of this other stuff and that comes over your kids and your family and everything else. And it's just, it's disturbing.

I can't believe it still has such a hold on people, really. Religion to that extent. I don't mean religion in general. I don't think religion's horrible. You know, I've seen it do a lot of good as well. but to the extent where people are like getting rid of their own family and judging their own family to the point where they have no relationship with them is just or just more broadly when people do shitty shitty things in the name of religion when a lot of times the religion actually does not stand for those things not sure religion stands for like shaming your daughter or making your daughter feel like shit and then there's just large well a lot of them do I mean it depends on I mean it depends on how literally you read the texts of that religion. You know, some people are very hippy about it. It's like, I'm, I'm religious, but I just believe in love, man, and, you know, like, have premarital sex. And, you know, there are, like, certain things that are accepted now just because it's the modern age and people just ignore it. It's like, I'll still go to church every Sunday, but I'll do everything the Bible is telling me not to do. And they're okay with it and they're fine with it. And then some people are very literal about every little thing. It's like, you had premarital sex, you and your baby are going to hell. You know, Yeah, well, it's like, I feel like a lot of religions, generally broad strokes are really about finding peace and getting along with people and giving spiritual guidance.

But there are definitely like archaic elements in, in like all the different various scriptures that like people cherry pick, which are the ones that don't feel relevant anymore versus which are the ones that actually support their worldview that they just are too lazy to want to change. And it's actually really sad. And it's really sad that this really affects so much of people's lives. people's rights to just live as who they are and um no yeah like what's going on in this country right now it's absolutely insane that you've got people who are leading the government standing up there like let's lead a group prayer at this governmental meeting with cops like what the fuck bro conversion therapy might be back it's just cuckoo yeah it's just it's cuckoo so i think it's um you know a brainwashing it's brainwashing and people should get the fuck away but anyway thanks for

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