Watch What Crappens - #3051 RHOC S19E16 Part Two: Watch Your Tulip

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

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Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watcher Crappins ad-free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. What's what happens when there's so much than crap is. Welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, we'll go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. So now they go back to the hotel to change in bathing suits. And Jen's like, oh, I just can't wait to put on a bathing suit. And it's like, oh, yeah, a bathing suit. And a hot tub. Sounds darling. Hello, sir, who is our captain who won't be our boat with us. That's real safe. So is the water, is it, is this a safe water or is it, does it come from the river?

Is it full of muck? Is it full of people throwing up because they've had too much space cake? A lot of carbs. A lot of carbs in this river from carb vomit. I have a blister on my toe, sir. It's a crock pot. Just get in there. It's going to slowly cook us until we're dead.

We're having housewives for dinner. So, Emily, everyone, I just want to make an announcement to what you're about to say, Roddy. I got very funny baseball caps for us also wear. I'm so hilarious. I just want everybody to know I can be crass and useless in multiple countries. Here are your disgusting hats. So she passes around these baseball caps and one's like, I love cock. They're not even subtle caps.

Wrong hole and I like it. And Shannon says, Moister than an oyster. And Heather sees these. And she's like, well, I know why they think that I'm not because this is not funny. So if this is the kind of sense of humor you're looking for, you will not find that at the groundlings.

Thank you. No, I was being serious, Alfredo. This is not funny. I am not moisture than an oyster. Well, you know, clearly she's not. She's wrapped in Spanx. Wouldn't Spanx make you more moist? you more moist?

I mean, just in general. I don't know about B2JUs, but. I think if I were in Spanx, I'd have a lot of more moistness on, I'd have a higher degree of moistitude on my body. Oh, yeah. Please stop saying that because everyone knows

I hate that word moist. No one likes the word moist. And I'll tell you who hates it the most. Barbara. That's her name, right? Barbara. So one hot tub, floating hot tub thing is going to be

Emily, Gretchen, and Tamara. Okay? And of course, Emily is the one who divides up the boats and makes the most dramatic boat she can. And Gretchen's like, oh, this is a death trap. And then Emily is saying, this is my last try. Once

this crock pot comes to land, I'm done. So now Shannon is holding her foot out. Like, I don't want my blister touching the water. Wow. Am I falling off the boat? Where's my blizzard? I don't want to wait. I don't want to wait. I don't want to wait for this blister to get infected.

I'm leaving my ankle outside the crock pot just to be safe. The space cake, everyone. I apologize. So Shannon is designated the one who is going to drive the boat because, you know, she's from the boat family and everybody fucking knows it. And Tamara is driving her boat. And so it becomes like a race on a very slow, you know, too slow moving hot tub things in the water.

Yeah. And Shannon's being all cartoonish about the way she, like, controls the rudder. I don't think it needs that much body language, but she's like flopping herself all around. She's also, like, dangling off the side of it. For someone who is so scared about getting her toe in dirty water, I mean, she is like one millimeter from going overboard. I was actually quite concerned about her, but she's all on the side there. She's like, oh, look at me. I'm wacky.

But then somehow she still winds up crashing her hot tub into a boat. And if I were that boat owner, I would not be happy at all. Maybe I'm just, like, used to blow deck where, like, any small thing hits the hole. You're like, that's $1 million worth of damage. But I was like, this is, don't do that. Don't crash your hot tub into someone's nice boat. Yeah, this isn't just the corner of a house to clip. Okay, this is a bigger deal, ma'am.

It's a houseboat. I know. I love that every, every season now, Shiana, is just going to clip something. Driving something drunkenly. This is going to be her new. thing. So shout-out's like, oh, I'm a boater. Okay, I'm sorry, sir.

I'm sorry for clipping your boat, but, oh, oh, did he just smile at me? Is that a, is that my new boyfriend? No, oh, he is just actually giving me the finger. Okay, all right. Good, good day to you, sir. Gina's like, oh, wow, now we're driving, now we're cooking with gas. That's a show with the groundlings. Thank you for the shout-out.

Well, I understand the concept of this person didn't do anything to me, you know, whatever her name is Denise, but I just thought things were different. I thought things were different with her, because in her conversations with me, she doesn't really seem to be friends with Alexis. And then we see a clip of Shannon asking her about Alexis and Jen being like, oh, I don't even see Alexis, Shannon. And I don't think I'm going to go to her wedding, Shannon, because I know what that would do, Wes.

And I'm telling you the truth on that, Shannon. I'm telling you the truth. So Jen is being a little slippery on this front, but at the same time, she's still not planning to go to the wedding regardless. And as we found out, she actually had her invitation revoked. So it's not even an issue. Because she wasn't there after Alexis had surgery. She didn't.

Probably. God knows what surgery it was. But Alexis is like, yeah, it's surgery. And Jen wasn't there. So unfortunately, she was disinvited to the wedding of the century. So I actually can learn her lesson. And one day we can come back and be real friends again. Someday.

Someday. So Jen's like, well, whenever I met Alexis last, last year, you and I weren't like we are now. And if you say it hurts when I'm with her, you know, I can hear that. Well, I'm not saying, don't be friends. I'm saying, if you had to choose between her or me, you choose me, right? I'm just saying lines were crossed, and it doesn't mean that I have to listen to it. I just, I just wonder why you think she's so great.

I mean, last time I checked, she didn't throw you a bridal shower, right? Last time I checked, she didn't get you a nice cake that said, congrats on your upcoming nuptials, Cynthia. that's okay. I mean, we all have different ways we show up for our friends if we are, in fact, friends in the first place. And like you said, Jen being slippery, I do think that Jen kind of is full of shit a lot of times because she says right now, does Alexis talk to me about Shannon? No, no, of course not. And I wouldn't be comfortable with that. I don't believe you. What else is Alexis going to talk to you about? I don't think Alexis talks to anybody on that show and doesn't bring

up Shannon every five seconds. That's just not how life works. Yeah, I agree. And so then they're driving by in the boat, and Shannon goes, wait, wait a second, is, does that boat say Jansen? Is that, wait, is that John Jansen, son? Hi, it's Shannon. I remember me. I was, I was the woman that your father jilted and ruined and sued, which is hilarious because I was the one who was left with nothing. But anyway, and I paid for everything. I actually paid for your boat.

So I get to see you. Oh, you know what? That is actually a potted plant. It's some tulips. Okay. All right, moving on. Okay, okay. Now we're at the other one.

So Gretchen, is there anything you'd like to say to Tamerlip? because she's open to listening. So say it, fight, do something. I don't want to have to do something on this show. Do you guys want me to pull a chicken sandwich out of my purse? I'll do it. Talk loud because I got featured by my ear. Yeah, my little power play.

I can't hear you, Gretchen. Okay, Tamara's like, no, I don't want to say nothing. Well, Gretchen, is there anything you want to say? Oh, okay. Tamara said she'd listen. She told me. Well, talk laugh, yeah, talk laugh. Okay, well, I know you probably won't be receptive to this.

Why would you say that? You say, you start off with negative comment. What am I supposed to say about it, bitch? However, because I messed up and I feel really bad about it now. Yeah, but I thought we agreed to like stop talking about it. We agreed no more, remember? Yeah. Yeah, I messed it up.

I mess it up and I feel bad. Slade told me I should feel bad and I feel bad about it now. Oh my gosh, she feels bing... Okay, so... I can hear that across the canal. now. All right, then what was your intention with the charity thing? Because you and Slade came at me and then you heckled me and stuff.

The only one who hears you to getting haggled is Heather, okay? But you're not Reba McIntyre and I'm not Heather de Bro. Um, well, I mean, that's because, however, it's because everyone was saying you were going around and telling them something about Slade and I just was like really upset about it. Oh, wait, way, way, way. It's because people knew that she had out of her. conversation with Katie. And so people were just asking what happened. You know, of course, Emily bringing it to her own thing. It's like, yeah, I mean, I think she's really hurt because you

guys had a pact and you breached the pact. And I messed up. And like, I just felt justified at the time. And I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying that I messed up. Yeah, but sometimes you think it's okay for you to do stuff and like just because Tamara does and it's like a never ending cycle okay well so am i just supposed to like not do anything no matter what she says i'm assuring you i've no tamara for a long time in the past three years she has not said one word about you okay or you haven't been listening let's be honest yeah and so gretchen's like emily's a flip-flopper i mean what the hell why am i the only one that's being singled out and she's right because emily has been talking her up, like, this whole time, you know. So now it's two hours earlier. And Gretchen's

like, well, I said, I'm sorry. And then she came in and started screaming and said, fuck you. So I guess I'm a little anxious to try that again. And Emily's like, yeah, Tamara lives in code red time all the time. And so, and then Gretchen's saying that she decided to get in the hot tub because she just wants to move forward. But she also is like, yeah, but they are that those two women are the most aggressive to me. So I don't know if it was the best decision. So Gretchen's telling Emily, like, you know, just because she hasn't said it to you, Emily, doesn't mean she hasn't said it to other people. Hasn't talked about me to other people. Yeah, it's like, well, you know, I mean, come on, that's not the right attitude. And Tamara's like, I don't talk about you. You're not even

recommend it. Oh, man, I don't think that boat ride's going good. They might as well just pull the plug out of the bottom and sink the bowl. Yeah, look at Regger's hands. They're like going like crazy. And she's like, oh, I can't give you 20% off. I can't give you 20% off. I won't give you 20% off with that attitude. By the way, here's the coupon so you can watch the HG Network on Mark Cuban's Strange Netflix TV platform. Okay, there you go. Gruchin, you have to recognize your part and how we got into this because you've also perpetuated this stuff. You've also said things and I've repeated them every single time. Okay. Yeah, but the way that I see it is that if someone ask me a question, I answer it honestly and Christianly. So maybe I need to work, look at that

a little bit. I just need to look at being less of a child of Jesus and more of a Satan's child to fit in with the rest of you. I'd love to Gratchen, like, oh, I'm just sorry, I'm so honest. Maybe I need to learn to lie more to be around you guys. They always play the honest crowd. I mean, Gina just did it like five seconds ago. I was being honest. So Emily's like, what if she said, hey, Tamara, what if she were more introspective and recognized that she was actually Fueling the fire. Yeah, that would really help if you said that. You know what the inspected me to jump it?

And she's like, well, maybe I need to take a look at that because I don't want to keep doing it. And maybe I'm doing it unknowingly clean. Wow. That's the best thing you ever said to me, bitch. Right there. Wow. It's a breakthrough for five seconds before I get mad at you later. Can we just a screen?

No more. No more. I'm sick of this shirt. I'm sick of it. You irrelevant. action. She's like, okay, I agree. I hope we both can do it, though, and not just me. So the producer says, are you hopeful? She's like, not even a little bit. Had I felt like there was a change, it would have been when she supposedly welcomed Jesus Christ into her heart,

but it didn't happen then. So you really think I'm going to think she's changed now? I mean, I appreciate her calling out Tamara's, you know, baptism, hypocrisy. But, you know, People are changing without becoming... She was also veterans. Yeah, people are, yeah, there... I like that whole thing, like, well, without religion, how would you know that murder's bad? It's like, well, if she didn't change

when she extended Jesus into her life, she'll never change the rest of her life. Yeah. So now they're parking the jacuzis, and they go back to the hotel, and Tamara is showing... Tamara's made up with Heather, so she's immediately.

got a Jen headline ready. I mean, Tamara's like, she's a pro. You got to hand it to her. Okay. That's everything. Saw that one. Okay. We need the next chapter. We still got half an episode left. Oh, hey. Look, I got my I heart notification because we get headlines and then I heart chooses what headline they're going to put on the podcast. So, yeah, this one's about you. Whoops. What's just something happening again? This is, that'll keep in mind, everyone. The, uh, the show, the season began with Tamara being furious at Katie because of talk that Tamara, like, you know, Katie was talking to too many podcasters and talking to too many content creators and, and like spreading, you know, untruths or whatever. And now here

comes Tamara, you know, basically brazenly announcing that she's going to be talking about one of her cast members on a podcast. Yeah. Well, at least, I will say for Tamara, at least she's doing it to Joan's face and it's a headline that's already out there from In Touch magazine. And she's giving her a chance to like at least comment on it. Which so. Which is admirable, but it's also funny because Tamara, this is Tamara's sly way of being like, um, look, it's a producer sent this to me. So now I've got to talk about it. You know, because Tamara can also say, I don't want to talk about my current cast member. Yeah. She could just do that. But she's presenting it under this veneer of being like a caring and considerate friend. Yeah. So the headline is from

In Touch. Real Housewives of Orange County's Jennifer Padranti ordered to pay six figure judgment after allegedly failing to pay rent. And so she's like, Like, yeah, I mean, that's the same judgment as it was last year. We did a modified rent plan during COVID, but now we're back in full business, and the money is owed back. Parking lots do not pay themselves, okay. So that's what it is. It's like, oh, okay, see, you sure there's nothing more? No, I mean, it's bad.

We're broke and we owe a lot of money. What do you want for me? Okay, but you don't owe it? No, I do owe it, Tamara. I do. So you're going to prison? I could go to prison. Tamara wants something more, but Jen's just like, no, here's the honest truth.

Oh, damn it. All right, I'm going to have to get back on the phone and find something else. So they get into vans, and I'm like, hey, Tamers, what's on your phone? Jen was ordered to pay judgment after allegedly fed to pay Red on the studio. Jen's like, well, you know, when Tamara shows that she has concerns for me, I don't know how to feel about it. There are moments I feel like Tamara generally wants something good for me, but it never lasts. Oh, that was an interesting insight, Jen. But this is another reason why she has to be smarter.

This is why Jen has to be smarter about her Instagram and setting herself up because she's got big girl issues. And that's not just a reference to her former fatty photo. Lawsuits and owing money, that's big deal. When you have big girl issues and people coming after you for money, you've got to get yourself up financially. So earn those $3 from Instagram. Yeah, instead of spending all your time with Air from Threat's company, maybe you should go to school and get a job. Oh, excuse me, excuse me. This Vicki, Vicki Cuffleson here.

Good job. because she couldn't have been so much better off right now five she could have been so much better off five years into this if she just got the job that's that's that's that's hilarious on this show saying that so um shannon's like oh she well she does have a job now because she's a podcaster and she sells that weed stuff that the CBD things but yeah in general on this show when they're when they try each other over jobs is pretty I know I know um so Shannon's like So, what happened, Emily, in your boat?

Did you have a nice time? We had a, I had a lovely time with mine. I was with Gina and also, what's her name? Jamari? Is that her name? I don't know if I know who she is. But she's lovely and she's my best friend. So then in the other van, Gina's like,

oh my God, you guys sounded like you were hot. And what were you hot about? Gretchen's crying. And Heather's like, whoa, Gretchen, why are you crying? Uh-oh. Something's coming out of Gretchen. She's like, well, there's just been so much hurt over the years, and I don't want to be the person that you guys are seeing right now. And I'm wondering if something came out online that she saw.

Like, I wonder if something was released of, like, an article about all of her tweets or whatever it was, because it is kind of weird that she's like all of a sudden. And like, oh shit. And she's just crying and like not going to show up to dinner. That's a great theory. That's a great theory. So how there's a common. It's a common. So you see that you guys are both hurting each other, right?

You, you see that, right? It's like when I catch Alfredo and Alfredo throwing my noble balls at each other for the restaurant, not for playtime. That's what I would say. Yeah. Like I see it, but like, oh, I just don't know what I'm doing. And I don't want to be that person. And I don't want to hurt nobody. I think it's a defense mechanism.

And Heather's like, whoa, wow. The fact that you're saying what you're saying is super impressed. There were at least four three-syllable words in there. At her core, Gretchen is a really sweet girl, and I definitely won't regret saying this. I never heard her trash people. We've always had a very nice relationship. And it's nice to know that we can come to the end of the season on that lovely note between us. she's not an evil menace so i feel bad that she's going through this when i see her i don't say

my turn still me i say our turn still us commercials here comes one right now see i don't i think heather has gotten so good at this i think heather's gotten so good at this I think, of course, Heather knows all of this stuff. I think she's really bettering up the audience. Like, oh, Gretchen, what a sweet person. She would never do anything. Here I am standing up for Gretchen constantly. Well, she probably recorded this like three months later after she already knew about this.

And she's like, yeah, I'm going to really show America how my heart is open to this woman who's about to hurt me. Yeah. So Gretchen cries. So they go back to the hotel room. Jen calls Ryan and shows her hat. And hers says throat goat. And he's like, wow, love your hat, honey. Got a heart on.

She's like, well, Gina said that I think when you deep throat, I think it means like when you deep throat, you sound like a goat. That's what the hat means, honey. Of course you know, would think that. Lingo on. Wait, what does goat mean? So Shannon's like,

Adeline, hi, this is your mother calling. I have an emergency. I can't walk. Today may be the last day that I have my toe. I may have to have an amputated, Adeline, do you have anything, any last words for my toe? Please, this is the last time you'll get to see it on the plus side. I will be about three ounces lighter. So, you know, take it where you can get it.

Dear Toe, sorry you're not her head. Love Adeline. Well, that was a bit, I think that was a bit crass Adeline. I am your mother after all. I mean, I did bring it into this world. Space cakes. So then Emily leaves a voicemail and she's like, Hi, Luke, I miss you.

I'll be home in three days. but I need you to be good okay be good Luke be good yeah except she's she's like very like I'll be home in three more days I need you to be good Luke okay I love that she's like well I don't know why he's I don't know why he always acts like a little baby when he's around me and then she's like leaving voicemails from like would you be a good boy you to be a good boy so then in the middle of the night then Heather at FaceTime's Terry about going to Ace's game. He's like, he's like, well, I'm going to sit in the bleachers.

Me, Terry DeBrow, sitting in the bleachers. Terry's a dad that spends time with the children and knows them. And that's so sweet. I've never done that. If it doesn't take place in the penthouse, I'm not going. But my dad was a great provider. But we didn't have that closer relationship. I realize now how grateful and lucky I am,

having grown up with a father who was emotionally distant and I never really knew where I stood with him, but that's the thing about generational trauma. You just have to get through it. Alfredo! So Terry, when you are sitting in the bleachers with the less privileged, do they recognize you, Terry? And he's like, how, come on,

when don't people recognize me? If people don't recognize it, did it even happen if they don't know Terry Dubrow, Are they even alive? You are television's Terry Debrough. If they don't recognize you, you make sure they recognize you. Bring a billboard next time. Right down the street from me, like right when you turn to come to my house, there's a

billboard for Happiest Place. Rib my car. And I crack up every time. Every time I pass it, I'm like, bitch. She never had me unhappiest place. And I thought she was a friend. so miserable witch's place so

so back to the lobby so Heather in an attempt to also be fun she goes by the way okay time to go to the next destination we are missing Jen and Gretcher's Gretches it is very fun to add an ERS at the end let me try this one Wenders

that's for Wendy Malick because I don't know if she has a friend to do that for her sorry that one doesn't really ring loser that's good that's good for wendy someone pass it on pass that on so they get a sprinter vans and jean is talking about how gretchen just doesn't feel good on the bus and she doesn't know if she's gonna come and oh no what's wrong with gretcher's and ten minutes earlier jen's asking her what's wrong and she's like i don't know i just can't stop crying but where does that come from all the years all the pain all the hating of tamra what is it Yeah, I mean, all of that, all of that. So, Jim's like, yeah, she's very emotional.

Am I so bad? What's she about stupid? Oh, my God, Tamara, don't take it immediately as an attack on you. Don't react. Be like Wendy Malick in an acting scene. Don't react. What you're going to do was open your mouth and step out, only. Oh, my God.

Look at the name of that restaurant. Look at that name of the restaurant. restaurant. Meet the ball. So they're walking around a food hall and Tamara goes, I feel like we're at the ball. We are. Except I don't see my mural of my tree with my children in it. Oh, I said the mall house. No, we're at an actual mall. Yes, yes. We are there. I love that Amsterdam's like, look, we do not have very many rules here and people can get pretty wild, but we are not going to have real housewives filming in our restaurants. Have fun at food courts. Okay. This is the fourth food court they've been to, I think.

And it's like, so we carry our own trays. Is that how it works? I'm not sure. I thought it was called an entree, not our tray. I don't know. Is this called an on the rich person tray? Because that's what it is. I don't appreciate this.

Okay, this is me. Heather Dubrow, actor for the people. May we please get a classic hot dog and onion rings, please? People will love that because I famously didn't let my husband order them for a, sorry, a ranch party that we had one time. So look at me, fun, fun, Heather Dubrow. Wait a moment. There is a, look, there's a sign. And, oh, it's a very hilarious and funny sign.

And it's what I'm going to say to Terry. It says, it's boom, boom, sausage time. Again, from the top, it's boom, boom, sausage. Time. Okay, let me, let me, I said it's boom, boom, sausage time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Alfredo couldn't pedumcha while he was holding my tray, fortunately. Alfredo, pick up my liqueenna that you dropped. We're shenanigans. Emily. I'm the nickname person. We're shenanigans.

Sheena's like, oh, excuse me. Please stop. to steal my name for your show because i'm going to be a future housewife for orange county now i'm going to have something to say about this next to your corner kiki mona like help me like come up with the name shenanigans and the fact that you're just like taking it is like a real issue i think we have to send her back down to orange county she anna sheena annigans shana annigans shannon and jenn are like doing a wacky dance through the food hall like they're windmilling

their arms around i think they're trying to do like a call back to shannon synchronized swimming bit, which I think they're really trying to make that happen. And I'm going to say this right now, even as a big Shannon Madur fan, that's not going to happen. Yeah, that was never fun. So then we have a scene of Jen trying to set Shannon up with the 20-year-old bartender. And then the women gather at the table. And Heather's like, I ordered some spring rolls.

They're coming up, everybody, right after winter. Apparently, that's when you take your alfrano, roll them in a car. carpet and sent him down a hill in the spring rolls. It's so fun. I'm really bug now. I'm really bugged. I'm not going to say anything to her. I'm just bugged about Gretchen. I'm just bugged. Well, Gretchen was very upset. She was upset. Oh, you think she went and talked to Slade? Well, when you're that emotional, you call your husband. Just like when I found out what boom, boom, boom sausage was. Terry was the first person on the horn. By right, ladies? Boom, boom, sausage. So great. I almost went and called Drake, but then I remembered that we hadn't actually met yet.

But in my mind, I think that we're best friends and we exchanged numbers. So I just, I just texted it to a random person on the book. So Gretchen, Gretchen face-time. We see Gretchen at home FaceTiming stage. Hi, Slade. I had a little meltdown. I'm trying to move forward. I really am.

He's like, you know what? With everything that's happened in the past, you should just, I know, at this point, let it go. There's obviously emotional issues on both sides. And if she's willing to work things out, I know for a fact that you'd have an interest in doing that too. And this is where I said, oh, this is, they know what's coming. Because even for Slade to be like, oh, you know what, honey, forget, forget, it's Tamara. Well, welcome her, welcome her. Reach out those beautiful arms of yours and just give Tamara a hug. I was like, oh, the producers warned them or it came out on on Instagram or something

because she knows what's coming for sure. Yeah, that's a, I think that's, you really picked up on that. See, you know, you're really good at that, Ronnie.

You're really good at it. I was like, oh, I was like, that's strange. I was like, all you have to say as well, people on housewives are liars.

Then you win. Yeah. You get it right. Gina is back at the food hall. Gina's like, yeah, I've always tried to get Gretchen to see who. Who?

How? Gretches. Oh, thank you. To see her side of things and she never sees it. Like in that bus, she did. I'm telling you right now, she swore Tamara. And I'm telling you, Tamara. Yeah, no, no, it was genuine.

It was like genuine. Yeah. You want to talk about performative? No, you want to talk about performative. You'll come to cooking with gas on Thursday. It's at the groundlings. Now, do you think she feels picked on like the new kid in town? I don't want to pretend like she's a good person.

I'm not going to do it. Well, I told her she should come. Should I not tell her she should come? Because it feels like maybe she shouldn't come. I mean, I did tell her about boom, boom, sausage. Oh, I love that you told her about that. I love that that's our thing now. That's our thing, right?

God, I love being carefree. Since what are you such good friends with other? If you ever come for me and my boom boom sausage again, it will cost you a lot, Emily Simpson. So Gretchen comes in. She's like, oh, I'm only two hours late, but I mean it. So everyone's kind of tense Because they were just talking shit about her Are you okay, Grettax?

Are you okay, Grettax? Yeah, I'm okay. Well, I'm glad you're here Because I almost had to do something for this show But now I'm glad that other people can yell at you. By the way, what did you think about Tamara being pissy before Gretchen got there When you know that Tamara didn't like that Gretchen was feeling emotional

And that Gretchen was like having a moment Do you think that Tamara was like Oh, this is bullshit. She's trying to make herself seem like a victim here and like get like curry favorite. Or do you think Tamara was just like being classically Tamara unhinged? Yeah, I think she was like, oh, here's Gretchen acting like I victimized her again. You know, like she said we're made up. But now she's going to act like a big victim like I did something to her in that hot tub.

Right. You know, because no one else was there. So Gretchen could say whatever she wants. Right. So Gina is like, she's like sitting across from Emily and she's like, yeah, like, yeah. like ask her ask Gretchen how she's doing like ask her how she if you want to talk about or not he asks Gretchen if she thinks that Shannon and Jen have a good friendship he asked Gretchen do you think that like Shannon should owe me a party because I like moved him with Travis

wait this feels awkward why do I have to do it because I already said how you doing okay then Tamara should do it you do it Tamara no so great to wait what are you guys looking here well I mean everybody asked about you and I said she needs a minute and she's upset and And, you know, it takes a long time than a lot of aquanette to get your hair in that, you know, like, Darth Vader, Blonde, Darth Vader shape. So, like, you know, I was just trying to explain

and explain your absence. Grudgers, do you want to talk about it? Come on, Gretcher's. She's like, no. Well, I guess she needs time to process. So, Jen's like, okay, well, what's the emotion? Lots of pain. I hate this back and forth.

And Tamara's like, but we stopped it. And you just started it back up. She can't say you hate it when you were the one. when gaited in it. Come on. But she apologized. Hashtag boom boom sausage. Today she did. What about yesterday?

What about yesterday for? Oh, yeah, it's just saying. She also apologized. She apologized itself defense. So there was that too. Remember that? But she still did it. She still did it.

I'm not saying that it was good what she did. I'm not saying it's good that she said you slept with Nelson. But she is. apologize. I'm just feeling it's never going to be resolved. Well, you guys, you agree to the crock pot to stop talking about each other. So what happened about that? She's like, well, I mean, it was so long ago, but it doesn't really matter because those

emotions don't disappear, you know, and I was hoping that maybe we could be like, looking back, I shouldn't have done these things. I shouldn't have said these things, you know. And Shannon's like, I can sympathize with Gretchen because sometimes you want an apology, but the apology has to be authentic. And I've been in that situation where I just think I'm just never going to get anything authentic from Tamara.

And then she grabs my boobs and puts a napkin in my chote and we're packed at square one. God, we have so much fun. Okay, everyone here has to be accountable for their part in this feud. Well, however, I absolutely want to be accountable for that. And if you feel like I've been bashing you for 12 years,

I'm sorry for that, Tamara. Tamara, Tamara's like, yeah, I know. We talked about it earlier. I'm like, well, okay, Tamara's being a little annoying to me. Okay, I understand why she was annoyed at Gretchen because it seems like Gretchen was going to try to make herself the whole victim in this and get sympathy. But now Tamara is like, Gretchen comes in here and, and Gretchen and Tamara is like, goes

back to that, you started it, you started it, after they had allegedly like put down their arms. So now she's gone back to you started it, you started it. And now she's going to reverse something like, we are, I already talked about this, we already settled it. I'm like, well, you can't, which way are you going to go, Tamara? You're driving me nuts right now. Well, it's like, why, but I think she's speaking for the audience too, because I'm like,

oh my God, why are we talking about this again? And it's like, hey, they're just, we gotta go over it. Yeah, but that's because Tamara went back to it. I'm not exonerating, I'm not saying that Gretchen is like that, that Tamara doesn't have a right to be annoyed at Gretchen for trying to garner sympathy. But Tamara is the one who went right back to it said, well, you started it, bitch. It's like, you guys just resolve this in those stupid boats. And now you're going

back to it. And now, when Gretchen is now attempting to apologize or take some accountability, now you're being like, whatever, I don't want to hear it. Because we already talked about this. I'm like, stop. Stop. So there's just like a circle.

They're just grasping for straws. They've got nothing, basically, is what's happening. So Tamara's like, oh, my God, we agreed to not say anything. And now you want more apologies. And she's like, well, I don't want this. Then we'll be stuck in the same. place. Yeah, because you guys keep bringing it to the same place. So they keep kind of going in circles with

this whole thing. And they're saying that maybe Gretchen is just releasing all this emotion of all these years. And that's why she's emotional. So they just leave it at that. But now it's the next day. We get very serious music. And Gina and Emily are in bed together. And Emily's like, well, I just have a hard time with Gretchen because there's times when I find her to be endearing. And then, you know, like she takes a look at herself which I appreciate and Gina's like yeah but that's why I'm struggling because like I'm the person in front of me I like my lying but like I'm starting to think is she this other person like the post the social media I can't get it out of my head Emily which is why I haven't brought it up for the three weeks that I've known about that I know know what I can't

get out of my head why Gina for some reason is in full drag makeup sitting on this bed I'm like what is going she's got like the line outlines on her lips just got like the heavy blush like Are you guys, what's the next event you two are going to? So Gina says about two weeks ago, I was at the dispensary with Tamara and she brought up these incredibly alarming post that Gretchen had liked. So we see Tamara. She just is like, hey, look at this. Now go fat my foot.

And she basically shows the post. We have to assume very heavily. It's the post where Gretchen famously liked anti-trans and homophobic. They were homophobic posts too, right? I mean, it's all the same. Not the same, but it's like similar. And so Gina is like, it's so awful. And then he's like, I think that's like why I'm short with her.

Because like I know about it, you know. So it's hard for me to like recover from that. Like, but you guys didn't, you guys are still waiting like two weeks. So like, like for these people who like love to brandish the honesty flag, they are like, okay. This is a really shitty terrible thing. Gretchen did, but you guys are going to just like wait two weeks on it and then use it as like a plot device. I was like, okay, sure. Yeah, I mean, again, like you knew first, Tamara knows about this stuff and she's going to make them bring it up because Tamara's like, well, if I bring it up,

everyone's going to call me a bitch, but then they never bring it up. And then they wait and then they're like, well, we're desperate. We're bringing it up. You know, we have nothing. If Gretchen's not going to fight with Tamara anymore, then we need something else. Let's bring in the big guns. yeah and to their business saying yeah i have a hard time believing that's who gretchen is how could you she's in fox news cosplay literally every day like how is this surprising and she and emily like a family prayer before going up to heather's house yeah she's like well i just live by the rule of the innocent until proven guilty at this point yeah sure emily yes unless it's anybody i've ever fought with in the past five years.

But at this point, the information is coming from Tamara. So that's suspect. And Gina's like, oh, my God, I can't let this thing go now, even though I've let it go for three weeks because it really bothers me. Are you going to tell Heather? She's like, well, I don't want to tell Heather, but like, I don't want to start a thing, but like it's such a real topic, especially if I had the, I'm like, I have to bring it off.

Like, I don't want it to be the drools, but like, oh, it's such, well, what are they photoshopping likes on posts? I don't think someone would go that far to Photoshop. Mike's on post. So, Gene is like, I'm genuinely confused by this. And anything I've heard Gretchen say has been love and light.

And I mean, for God's sake, the woman is over 40 and she still wears headbands and bows. And she doesn't seem like the sort of person that's like walking around launching hate campaigns on people. I'm like, she seems like literally the exact sort of person. If you say that exact description is like the exact person,

I would expect to launch a hate campaign against someone. Yeah. Well, obviously, we should give her an opportunity to explain or address it. Yeah, I'm not something she should explain because like it's something she means to explain because it's not good and that's not okay even though I found out about it and I've been like really close with her ever since. They are such hypocrites, but I'm glad that someone is going to bring it up. I was just about to say like yes, it seems questionable that they waited so long and of course they're using it like in an opportunistic way. By the same time, you know what, they I appreciate that they are horrified by it and like let's not lose sight of that.

because they should be horrified and I'm glad that it's it's significant for them. So it's going to be a shit show next week and I'm bracing. I'm putting on my helmet and we see previews of Heather yelling at Gretchen as she should. And it's going to be a wild one. Yeah, here we go. And I will, you know, I went over these screenshots one time. I read you guys a bunch of them on one of the episodes. I don't have them up right now, but I'll have them up for next time because even looking for

them through this I'm seeing that headlines like Gretchen denies ever liking these posts like she's I guess trying to say that it's a lie and a few weeks ago she even followed queer news daily because it's like this stuff she knows

this stuff is going to come out so she starts following these people that'll make everyone else look like a liar like no I totally follow queer's news daily it's like the most obvious thing you know she just typed in queer or gay and just followed whatever she could It's like after the thing with Katie happened and they were calling a racist, she called every Asian person she did and had a luncheon and then posed in one picture with like seven Asian girls and was like, I just love hanging out with my friends.

Like, we see you, Gretchen. You're not that subtle girl. Like, come on now. And listen, I'm all for if someone is doing something like homophobic, hateful. And then they like they stop and they listen and they learn and they hear from people and they do some work and they realize. that, you know, oh, shit, I was being closed-minded. I want to better myself. I want to actually, like, show people that I actually care about improving myself on this. Like, that, that, I listen to that and I care about that. And I appreciate when people really do that. But it has to be real and it has to be sincere.

And so, you know, well, I'll have to see how sincere I feel Gretchen is. But I'm not going to. Fuck Gretchen. My expectation is very low. No, no. Lacking. These posts she was lacking are horrible. They were fucking horrible.

It's like likening homosexuality to pedophilia, you know, all the shit they said about trans people. This is not stuff you just wake up and I'm different now. No, fuck her. You know, fuck her for real. Like that's not something you're just like, oh, I'm sorry. I forgot about it. Like I'm different now in two days. Yeah.

No. What I'm saying is that like generally I'm okay for people to learn and grow. but for Gretchen my my my my hopes are very very low very low very low very low very low very low very low very low very low too bad I was crazy at the start of the season too bad too bad Gretchen loser well bye have fun with your demise lose um so that brings us to the end of real house was of Orange County god this was a week of two part recaps for almost every I think we did them for almost every show this week that's crazy it's been a fun one fun talking to you as always my little Ben Ben and everyone else we will see you on

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