Watch What Crappens - #3061 RHOP S10E05 Part 1: Nevis and Buttheads

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

This is part one of a tw-parterThe Real Housewives of Potomac continues its cast trip, and no one is having more fun than Kierna.  Just kidding!  But in all seriousness, Angel finally has fun with the ladies and settles her beef.  Just kidding!  She’s still mad too. Will K and Angel ever have a good time?  Stay tuned! To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watcher Crappins ad free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. and welcome to Watch for Crapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo. We just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, joining me today to talk about Real House of Potomac. It's the one and only Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. Whoa, hello, Ben.

How are you today? I am, I'm feeling great. It's a Monday. Potomac was so funny last night. It's so good this season. So I'm feeling invigorated. I started off a fresh new week. I went to the farmer's market this morning.

I got myself some vegetables to be. you know, healthy and lovely and wonderful. And I'm just excited. I'm excited to recap today. Tonight we have Crappy Hour. That's at 5.30 on the West Coast, 8.30 on the East Coast. And we'll be talking about all sorts of, you know, headlines and talk to you guys.

That's going to be, you can find that on YouTube, on Instagram, on Patreon. And we hope you join us because we always have a really fun time. So that's this evening. And of course, speaking of Patreon, we have our beautiful Patreon. We are going to be doing for this week's bonus episode a trailer trash for For the new Vanderpump Rules trailer, it dropped literally five minutes ago while we were sitting here, just shooting the shit. And I can't wait. I can't wait.

So we'll be doing that on our Patreon. Patreon.com slash watch our crapans. And then, you know, Ronnie, I think, you know, Bravo Khan is next week. I'm just going to say. Oh, God. What is it? It's next week. No, it's not.

No, it's not. We have two weeks. Let me look. Because next week. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Yes. We have two weeks.

No, it's next week. Right? It's next week. Isn't it the 17th? No, it starts on the third. It starts on the third. Well, I think BravoCon starts on Friday, but we're going to be going up there on Thursday. But yeah.

Wow. BravoCon is next week. It's happening. Well. And so we are still hammering out the details, but we are going to do a meetup. So keep an eye on an ear out for what that's going to be. We're just, we're figuring out stuff with venues and stuff like that and where we'll be. But we just want to let you all know we are going to do a crappins meet up.

And we're very excited. Yeah, we'll be doing some kind of hang out with you guys. Meet and Greed. It's not money. It's free. So we hope you guys can come if you're there. Yeah. We ain't there to make a money of you.

It's just fun times to meet you guys and see you because BravoCon is a part. Hey. And there's a lot of Crappins listeners that are going to be there. So, you know, start it off. Right. Yeah, we're just going to have a fun time. And this will be my first bravo con. But from what I hear at night, there's all sorts of these things that happen, these parties that like, you know, no one gets, no one can get into, right? Like that apparently it's like so-and-so has a party and like you have to be a certain bravo liberty to go to it. And it's like, fuck that. We'll have a party. We'll have a party. Yeah, we're going to do our own. We'll have our own party and we'll just have a really fun time. And we'll all party and get wasted and do fun. things. So, yeah. Stay tuned for more details about that as we get them. Yeah. So we're going to be having fun over there. Hope you can join us. And today is Real Housewives of Potomac season 10, episode five, sunshine and tech and sex. Sunshine and sex. Well, they might as well call it

dinner plates and sex because my dinner plates remind me of sunshine. Remember Ramona said that as a throwback. He used to say that all the time. And Ramon's like, you know, these plates, they're yellow. They remind me of sunshine. Yep, that's what we say, sunshine. So, you know what? Sunshine didn't need this. Did you see, I actually had this on crappy hour links, but let me pull it out because this is so fucking funny to me.

Did you see the Potomac contract that was finally released between Stacey and T.J. No, John, did he finally release it? That's, you know what? He's snooze, you lose. Supposedly. I am believing this. Everyone loves Stacy now. She has good will.

Two seconds. Yeah. So this is on reality blurb. That's where we're getting this. And they got it from Bravo and cocktails. You know, who knows? Everybody got it from somebody, okay? But it's just a paper.

It looks like someone printed it at home in Helvetica. And it just says, in caps, all on the top, Real House House has a Potomac contract. I, Stacey D. Rush, willingly entered this agreement with Thomas Anthony Jones, Jr. as an equal partner and cast member of Bravo TV's Real Housewives of Potomac produced by Truly Original. I agree that Thomas Anthony Jones Jr. is entitled to 50% of my total salary earned as compensation for my appearance for the 2024 season as a cast member, and each season I appear as a cast member of R. Real House as a Potomac thereafter. This contract shall automatically renew each season and remain in effect

until my employment as a cast member of Potomac ends or a mutually agreed time. Signed May 5th, 2024, signed by supposedly both of these people. Now, her signature is not even the cursive. It's just May.

Signed, 2024, the season had already aired. Yeah, 5, 524. Be smart with your fake contract. Yeah, how does that make sense? 5.5.24 would be... The season's over. The season already had filmed and had already aired at that point.

Like, what sort of, like, come on, be better with your fit contract. At least, like, say 2023, you say February, 2023 or, like, April. I mean, right? Am I crazy? Don't... We were... Real House of Potomac Reunion 2024. Let's see when it was.

Okay. The season eight reunion aired in 2024 and consisted of three parts. Yeah. So you're right. Yeah. Because remember we were at watch. It aired on March 31st. It aired on March 31st, 2024. So why would you sign a contract after and after he dissed you?

Yeah. So good. Are we vindicated in not believing this? That is the worst. That's crazy. Like, that's so sloppy. What a sloppy fake contract. Can you send me the link?

I need to see this for my own eyes. I am. Oh, it just closed it. Okay, I'll find it. I'll rummage around. Hold on. Yeah, I'll pull it up for you. Recently closed.

Okay, real house. It's actually so sloppy that I'm like, maybe you read it wrong. Ronnie. I'm like, now I've got to double check your work, Ronnie, because I just, you got to double check me. Well, you know you do have to double check me. And I, I freely admit that because I do have like a crazy person brain, you know, but, here, let me get this link for you. I think I found it. I know that we're wasting people's time. Okay, yeah, I see you in the document. It literally said, okay, Ronnie, I didn't get it wrong. Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. It literally says five, five, 24. It says, is entitled, it. What, like that, why would she after they had that fallout on the reunion that was filmed in January? In fact, we know it's filmed in January because when we're at Watcher happens live, Andy was like, I got to show you. He was talking to us about the reunion. He's like, well, we just filmed the reunion.

So like, why? It's now four months later. Why would, like, this? That's so stupid. It is so stupid. And also, why is she going to agree to give him money for every season? she's on. That's just ridiculous. No, that's the most.

And half. You give somebody half your income. I mean, I know first season people don't make that much money, but still. Well, Preston, if I'm scrolling down here, Preston, who we know and love from Summerhouse, Martha's Vineyard, says. Preston Mitchum, who just got married. So congratulations to him. He just married Donald. Donald. He says, as an attorney, even the looks of this PMO. Piss me off maybe. From the the randomly bolded R-H-O-P contract at the top, to the paragraph spacing, to his signature not being there, to him not being a cast member, and therefore no contractual relationship with truly Bravo and BCU, even if they entered one, it should be written very

differently in three crying emojis. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it was written. But like, it doesn't matter, like, no matter what is written, the fact that this is, the most damning thing is the fact that it's dated May 5th, 2024. That's crazy. That's idiotic.

I love stupid people. So there you go. I look at this as a Stacey vindication. I will take it as a Stacey Rush vindication. You guys, don't you love camels? Let's take a look at this camel selling on the QVC. The QVC clips have been going around and they are just hilarious. They are hilarious.

I mean, the best one really is her saying, talk about length, talk about drama, talk about stones, talk about comfort so lightweight. Like that's the best. And I do kind of have a feeling like people are trying to like be like, wait, what about this one? What about this one? And they're all very funny.

But honestly, none of them can top that one. That's like with that, that's just like the Supreme with the camera tight on her face and her eyes are like flaring and her faces going from like smile to like fierce. It's so camp and so gay. Oh, that's great. Yeah. It's great stuff.

So I consider this vindication, madame. So congratulations. You've been vindicated by a court of crappins. Yeah, absolutely. All right, so here we go. Real House Lives of Potomac, Sunshoyne, and Tex. Okay. So we are at dinner in Nevis, and Ashley has just revealed that Stacey has been trying to get.

With Chris Samuels, with the giant Chris Samuels. B-5-0-1. She's like, who told you that? Well, my friend is a publicist. and he works with a lot of athletes, and then Tatiana told me the night of my Bloomba that you had reached out to her to connect you with Chris Samuels.

I adore Chris Samuels. He has a great man, a great father. We are good friends. Yeah, but like... And it's not his fault his golden goose was stolen. I would be upset, too. And what a beautiful golden goose it is. Look at the contours on it.

Have you ever wanted to make a wish? You can get it with a golden goose. If you order right now, it's beautiful. Look at this breakfast. It's so golden. It's so fresh. It's so taste. Ow, my tooth. Do not eat the golden eggs, guys. Do not eat the golden eggs. When Jesus met the three wise men, one of the gifts he did consider was a golden goose. And he chose not to, but now you can have that same golden goose if you order now. Could you imagine Jesus having a golden goose? He never would have had to fish. It would have changed the whole Bible. Talk about gold. Talk about gold. Talk about all. oveoid. Talk about

omelets. Talk about fortune so much. Talk about the father. Talk about the son. Talk about the Holy Spirit. Talk about gold eggs. Am I right, guys? So she's like, yeah, I know him. He's a great man.

What a great father. And now she's like, how do you know these things about him? And she's like, we are very, very good friends. I was just asking Tatiana to hook me up with a very close friend who I've known for years. But how did that friendship come to be? Well, both of us have been, I've gone through a divorce. We both have a lot of friends in common and that's what it is.

By the way, Ashley asking, how did you become friends with Chris Samuels? What, like, what is shady about her ever becoming friends with Chris Samuels? Like, why is that any different from Giselle becoming friends with this other football player or, like, anyone knowing any football? Like, I mean, did we not see, like, what about Giselle dating Jason Cameron? isn't that that is also like a a weird thing and why is that not questioned or was it not question or any of any of the i don't think any of it's weird i mean you're allowed to fuck whoever you want i don't think it's weird if stacey climbed on top of that volcano and you know

pounded it i mean she's a lot to do that she was single he's single yeah nobody can she has no she has no allegiance to monique whatsoever and none of the and by way nothing these ladies do either they were the ones who ran her out off the show And now they're acting like, wow, this is like a violation of girl code. I know, Giselle over here is standing up for Monique. I'm sorry, you're talking about Monique. Shouldn't you get your bodyguard in the room to discuss her? I know.

Giselle, who probably still can't go into a staples because there are too many binders in there. Yeah. Well, actually stood up for Monique, to be fair. So she's like, yeah, we both been divorced. And she's like, well, Chris is telling people too, girl. It's not. And she's like, well, I mean, if you were a guy, wouldn't you tell someone that I was trying to date them. I mean, are you kidding? Have you seen my QVC clips? And Angel's like,

do you know how many people slipped into my DMings after I talked about that camel sweater? My DMings. So Angel's like, um, as a wag, I just want to say, he's not like that. And Jas is like, oh, so you know, Chris Samuels. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. He's one of Bobby's mentors. Yeah. So he's like, he's like the, he's the wah. Actually, I'm sorry, he's the ag of the wag, you know, because he's the actual athlete you know what I'm talking about um wait actually no no the athletes are actually in there okay whatever I'm getting confused in my own and in my own um acronym but just so you know I am a wag and I'm a bigger rag than all of you okay this was a real weird episode for angel um I knew that angel wasn't my favorite like I just didn't think she really had the personality you know you can

kind of tell right from the start she didn't really pop no but um you know you give everyone a chance but yeah, she's kind of blowing it. Yeah, she's going to be a one of done. She seems sad about blowing it, but she's not great. She's never let someone who's not good on your show cast the other person on your show. Thank you. That's a great. The fact that they're letting Kiarna bring people onto the show is just insane.

It's like asking your employee who does the least. Like, do you know any friends? Do you know any friends who might want to pick up some shift, a person who's late 10 times this week and barely does anything while they're at work? Yeah. I agree. You know, first episode I was optimistic about. Angel. I was like, I kind of like her.

She's like, you know, she's spunky. And then she has, like, done worse and worse every episode to the point where now it's clear that she probably will just be a one season wonder. And, yeah, this is why we can't, this is what happens when you let, like, Kierna onto the show, because she really was never been, like, a very good housewife. And now that she's trying harder, she's actually doing worse. So, but it is funny knowing, like, I love the. fact that we all as an audience are like, Kierna's like not doing a good job, right? But I like

that the cast members are also like, Kierna's not doing a good job. And like we're all in it together. Like, what the hell with Kierna? Yeah. So here Angel goes overstating something and then understating something, which is kind of, I'm learning one of her patterns. So she's like, oh yeah, Chris Samuels is one of Bobby's mentors. Yeah, huge deal. Mentor, mentor, big word guys. So then the producer asks her about it. And she goes, yeah, we know Chris because one of the colleagues that was recruiting Bobby was Bama. And that's where Chris was going at the time. So I think that he was kind of being a big brother to him.

But that's the extent of it. No big deal. So we barely know. But he's a brother and a mentor. But don't really know. You know, Angel. What are you saying? Listen, Waggypoo.

Okay. This is too much. Okay. Because. Listen here. wagging poo. Okay. She is every scene, she's bragging about being a wag. And I know that being a wag is something you brag about. You brag about being a wag. Okay, sure. But she really is taking on this, this idea that she's like an elder statesman, you know. And sure, that's something like

Sheree, that's kind of like Sherey's lane, by the way. And I think Sheree has earned it because she was like a wag to a coach, a basketball player who became a coach. And she went through like all the bullshit and then got spat out on the other end and now she's older her kids are older they're in college or maybe beyond and i feel like cherise is a is a is a great representative of a mid-atlantic elder stateswoman of the wag community but angels only 36 also what what was great about chriese is that she hated her husband so it was like i'm i'm a wag who still who ended up getting all the money you know so it was like a success divorcee wag, which I think was more fun to watch. And I don't, I don't even know that it's the,

it's the wag part of it that bothers me. Like, I don't care who you're married to. I really don't want to hear about your husband all the time. And it's, it's not only on real housewives. It's in real life, too. Like, I'm friends with you. I'm not friends with your fucking husband. Yeah. I don't care what your husband did today. I don't care what your fucking husband's opinion is on anything. I don't want to talk about your husband. Like, I'm not going to lunch with you if all you're going to do is talk about your husband. I would hang out with that loser, but I'm not with him. I'm with you. So let's talk about you, you know? Yeah. So it's, it's kind of sad. I don't like it. I don't know why I just only sort of like noticed or maybe just like process that you have like

an eye patch on right now. Oh, I'm just playing with it because I was wearing the Leah Black eye patch things earlier, go get them. But I took them off before we started this, but I feel like this eye needs some more because I sleep on my face on this side. So this eye is real haggie. This one's a lot. Look Look how my sis eyes looks. Yeah. William Black. Look how my sis eye looks and look how haggie this one is. I can't tell.

I've got a patch on the haggie one. I'll take your word for it. I do think that like, I agree with you. Like, I don't want to hear about Bobby. I think it's actually funny. Like,

it's funny because she's so ridiculous about it. Because she's clearly insecure. So she feels like she has to sort of, she sort of has to like flex about this. I just think that like she's acting like she's the first wag that's been on the show. And this is a show that like Cherise was on the first season. We had Jassy last. season. There have been wags that have come through and there's wags all over the real housewives

in general. I mean, even freaking Catherine, what's her face? Catherine Edwards was a wag to Donnie Edwards back on the day on Beverly Hills. Like the wags are everywhere. So like you don't get like any like bonus cred for being the wag of a starter who like only recently wrapped up his NFL career. Like if you want to be like an elder wag, you have to at least turn 40 first and foremost. And then you also have to go through the post-wag bullshit of like the guy's done with his career and now he's having an existential crisis and your marriage is going to shit because he can't deal with the fact that his like his life plan is now like crumbled to ashes that's when you become an elder stateswoman wag but not the CMT or whatever yeah is it called CMT country music this

travel c t c t is not whatever that the brain thing you know like you need some more history You did be in the trenches a little bit more. That's what we're saying. But you're also just have to be older. Like you're the youngest one of the youngest ones on this cast and you're trying to act like you are this mother hen to these young wags. And it's just it just doesn't feel right. Yeah, listen here, baby wag.

Baby waggy poo. We're not buying it. And we are kind of being haters. I don't hate her. I just, I would like to see her not brag about her husband's accomplishment so much and kind of, you know, come into her own. which I think sometimes housewives is really good for, you know. So maybe she will.

I don't think she'll have the time, honestly. But we'll see. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappence commercial. So Wendy's just like the lobst is great. Wendy's just over there enjoying her food. So funny this episode. I was like, damn, why'd you have to get into a fraud scandal?

You're like really kind of like unlocking a sort of great version of yourself. on this show. You're sort of, you're hitting your peak right now. Why did you do this to yourself, Wendy, aside from the fact that also why did you destroy your career and future? But, you know, also, why did you do that well? Because it's only how it affects us. How could you do this to us? And you know, your children, but us mainly. Yeah. So Ashley's like, well, Stacy, if you want to call Gisela out, why don't you talk about yourself? And Giselle's like, well, she didn't really call me out. I mean, I'm just out here in the streets. And so she doesn't really have. And so she doesn't really have much to say. She's just like, well, I'm back with my husband. And Wendy says, okay, she's back with

her husband. She ain't given no, Chris, Chris, no Poon. She's like, okay, listen, Ashley, we're just getting into the Sean Springs of it all. And now you come, put your cape on to be Captain Save a Ho for Giselle. So Giselle doesn't have to talk about her shit. And Wendy's like, Ashley, move out of the way. So Giselle asked Stacey, have you ever met, Monica? And Wendy is like, oh shit. Stacey goes, I haven't. But you all are friends with her. her right? Yeah? And they're like, yeah, we are. She said, well, I haven't met her. Maybe one day I will, but I haven't. I mean, surely she's not going to, I don't know, return to this TV show and we're queuing it up right now. Yeah. And Stacey tells us, you can't expose something

that's not true. I'm going to live my best life in that nameless robe and have great time. So Stacey's like, yeah, you guys want me to be somebody else so bad. and you just can't accept who I am. It's unbelievable. I am who I am and who I am needs no excuses. You need a breath, man. Okay, I will take that. We'll take that in stride.

So now dinner's done. And, you know, it's still another thing of like, let's try and start a fight. And this was another fail. It was another audition fail. So a night full of audition fails wraps up. And now they go back to their rooms. But we're going to have a little birthday thing for Wendy first. So they go over to Giselle's place.

And Giselle's like, you forced us last year to celebrate you every fucking day. So this year you get one day, one day, five minutes of one day. Yeah. So, okay, well, okay, I'll get this one. So they're all laughing. And then she's like, hey, do you want to play a game, Wendy? They're like, oh, my God, we're going to play a game. Which, of course, like, whenever we hear that phrase, who wants to play a game, it's like, you know, trauma starts to set in.

But this was actually more or less, okay. So, oh, my God, it's going to be fun. We're all going to hang out. We're going to play a game. We're going to party. And like, let's have the best time ever. Kierna, what do you think about that? I'm mad.

So Kierna's tired. She's going to go to bed. She's in a bad mood with everybody. But did anything even happen with Kierna tonight? I think she had a... I think she may have had a dust up with Jassy. Or is that late with the Jassy. But I don't...

Yeah, they try. But she's just, well, she was also like annoyed about earlier. I mean, Kierna is just like, you know, she's so... And Giselle's like, oh, well, if you want to go to sleep, you can. Ah, good night, bye, bye, there's the door. There's the door to your bed. Get into it, bye.

Like, not even an attempt to say, hey, stay. Yeah, I just can't with Kierna. Yeah, I can't, I can't with Kierna because she starts all the fights and then gets mad that she's in all these fights. Yeah. Like, you started it. Mm-hmm. It's crazy, you know? It's like the cow being mad that it's milked again.

Although I guess that's against the cow's well. You know, I'm like, you're the one producing all the milk. That's good for the milk. Why are you producing all this milk? and then mad when I want something for my coffee, cow. But the dairy farm, I guess that's against the cow's will. So that's a bad analogy. The dairy farm I went to back in May, they have this technology now.

There's like milking technology that the cow, when the cow wants to be milked, they like steps into like a little stall. And like a robo arm comes out. It like senses the cow and it's utter and it like can see where the utter is. And it attaches on and milks the cow. And then like the cow's like, okay, moving on. And I saw it happen. Like, it was a free will milking.

So just so you know, there are some cows out there that have some autonomy. Honestly, do they sell that for humans? Sounds like an amazing thing to have in your home. Yeah. Yeah, it could be. I'm ready. Just, you know, do whatever you got to do. I'm filled with poison.

All right. Just do whatever you got to do. Melchay. milk me. So Kierna explains, she says, well, I was so excited about this trip. And then I got the wind issue, which is like, I got the next. Wendy is she was just like a no issue and I got the jassy trying to yell on my face and my girlfriend is now a catfish and like I've seen enough um okay so just so you know you started um two of those issues just just so you know just a reminder before you go to bed and you also didn't go too crazy standing up for your catfish friend that's what I was thinking about what you're so tired about she is like she's so upset about her friend them coming for her friend that she's just gonna leave angel there with everyone and just go go to sleep yeah but kyrna should learn she wants a bunch of people

people to chase her off and be like how you're doing you know how are you doing but your your thing on this show is that you have diarrhea and no one cares and you're still that girl you know what i mean here we are like three vacations later or whatever three years later and you're still that girl yeah you've got diarrhea and nobody cares yep you're fired so ashie's game is that you either you're asked a question take this camouflage bag with you just kidding let's get her arrested give care another the camouflage bag and send her to the airport and call the police and warn them that she's on the way. So the game is, you're going to be asked a question and you either answer truthfully or you take a drink of tequila. And so they're all down for that.

They start with Wendy. And the question, of course, from Ashley is, have you ever been attracted to a woman sexually? And Stacey goes, oh my gosh, that's where we're starting. We're not even going to start with baby Jesus on a camel. And Wendy goes, yeah, well, it was a strip about the stadium nightclub in D.C. and she was so bad. She had braces. And I don't know why I thought that was so, I don't know,

but she was gorgeous. Wow. A terrible stripper with braces in D.C. Well, listen, we've all got our, we've all got our kinks. Yeah. So he's like, well, I do have a confession

because the question you asked when thee, I wish you would ask to me, because I've always had this crazy crush on Rachel Mather. And they're like, uh, actually. That's not what anyone was expecting to hear.

The look on Ashley's face. And this woman is slept with Michael Darby, multiple times. Yeah. She's also, by the way, she's like, she's also now leaning into being a drag king. And yet she's still confounded by the fact that Rachel Maddo might be sexually attractive to someone. So she is like, yes, Rachel Maddo, one of the hottest women I've ever met. And I just, oh, I love it when she puts on her red and white striped sweater and gets lost in a crowd.

I think you're talking about Waldo. Oh, him too. no i'm saying somebody tangible like you can call her up right now well you didn't say that to wendy and she said it was a stripper with a bad stripper with braces in dc why are you making different rules for different people bam you can't be in charge of this game anymore i know like why is rachel mattow like not i mean hello wendy prior to scandal was like a commentator on msnbc They actually have a pretty good connection to Rachel Maddow. And they're also on NBC.

It can happen. We can make it happen. But I also think that Ashley's basically just fishing for someone to say, remember that time that like we showed each other where our vaginas in the bathroom after like that when we're partying that one time? And she just wants to relive that thing. And no one's giving it to her. In fact, if anything, Tia is like, part of me wonders is Tia just shutting this down? She's like, okay.

I mean, if I'm Rachel Maddow went to the mix and just, we'll move on after that, I'm sure. I'm going to throw a real speed bump into this whole thing. And so, yeah, Ashley's like, it needs to be someone tangible. And Stacey goes, isn't she a lesbian? That was funny. The point of this, that, like, who's a woman you're attracted to? That doesn't work if she's a lesbian. You're not supposed to pick a lesbian.

But, yeah, she's like, isn't she a lesbian? And Tia's like, well, she's just very witty. She can have my nub. I'm joking. I'm joking. So, Ashley's like, I choose Jazzy. Do you wholeheartedly believe that there's no infractions that are happening?

And she's like, do you mean cheating? And she goes, yeah, is Darius cheating on you? And she's like, no, currently no. Were there infractions in the past? Yes. Do I have one child that was created and delivered wrapped in a gift box? Possibly. Did I just give birth to a new child that didn't come from me but arrived just randomly the other day?

Yes, but was it an infraction? Still not sure. May have just... Jazzy's wording on the kids are so funny. Did I pay an extra 20% in a door dash tip to the person that brought the child who was created for us to my door? I did. So she's like, well, I just think that we're like a little like scratching her heads, you know, from the thing from last time. Do you want to get mad about it all the time?

But like, whatever. I mean, if she can accept it and move on, then by golly, that's good enough for me. As evidenced by the fact that I just brought it up again. And Ashley's really trying to hold auditions here and nobody's playing. You know, Tia's like, I'm all being Rachel Maddow. What do I care? You know, take it. And Jazzy's like, yeah, whatever.

He's cheated. Who cares? When's rich. Rich as hell. Wendy's like, okay, let me accelerate this along. Let me ask the question that's actually going to create conflict. Angel, this question's for Angel, a girl who I don't know. Angel, if you could kill anyone in this group, who would you kill?

And, uh, and I was, whoa. And he goes, I'll answer. I'll answer. As a wag, I can answer. I've been to the trenches with Bobby and I can answer this. Okay. In this moment, the person who I would kill is Giselle. And they're like, whoa, Giselle, but why?

Why? But then they also love that. Kill the bitch. Kill that bitch. Kill that bitch. Am I dead? I'm dead. Me, Giselle. Yeah, you're dead.

Because I was so nice to you. And then you called my ass a catfish. And they all start cackling. And she's like, and let me tell you, I'm that motherfucker. The end. She's all happy. She's actually now like all, she like stands up from the table because she realized that like she said something that actually caused people to laugh. So now she's acting like, yeah, that's right, everyone.

The new queen of Potomac is here. And by the way, Giselle, like you have a different face in your photo. You cannot be sensitive about that. You got called out because you did it. You did too much with your face. filters you did you went too far and on this show they're not going to let you get away with that although jazelle does kind of look like anime and some of her instagram photos but like you saw a couple that people were posted her face is her face though it's an anime version of her face

but like angel's face was a totally different face i'm sorry hmm i don't know don't throw filters when you live in a vaseline house is all i'm saying okay because a lot of filters going on but yeah yeah i can see what you're saying i can see what you're saying So then Wendy's like, yeah, come to the dark side, Angel. And Giselle's like, well, at least she's not dead. At least we know she has a pulse. And Wendy's like, oh, don't you think it's so interesting how once Kiana left, Angel seemed to rise like a phoenix from the ashes.

This angel was cool. This angel was cool. And now they get to work wedging the two of those friends apart. So Stacey's like, whoa, she's like, I don't, Angel, I don't know what happened. was that maybe the killer B? Oh, oh. It was like, no, that's just killer me. I was also thinking of saying killer whack,

but killer me rhymed better. So that's that one. Yeah, that's just killer me. Okay, let's quit while we're ahead over there. So I was like, well, ladies, we have a long day tomorrow. Ashley was unable to start any fights. So let's go to bed. So she kicks him out and Tia's like,

let me go call Rachel Maddow. So Angel hugs everyone. Everyone's giving hugs Angel. They're like, yay. We're like, okay, now we see why you're on this show. Welcome. We finally see the real you. We can welcome you into the sorority.

Come on in and they all hugging. It only took five episodes, but Angel had a decent five minutes. Everybody, cheer, cheer, hooray, everybody, grab a soda. Great game. Grab a soda out of the chest on your way home, okay? So, yeah, they all, like, walk by. like high-five each other at the end of a soccer game.

So it's the next day. And we're in like the center of festivities and fun and joy on all of Nevis. It's Kieran and Angels Villa. And they're sitting there having some cocktails, cheersing. And Kierna's toasting to today being a much better day. And Angel's like, yeah, it doesn't really feel like it.

I'm really disappointed in Jaze. Kierna's like, yeah, I mean, here's the thing. like you have to like two beautiful children you're here you're still breastfeeding while you're even here and like you know what i mean and like that's like an incredible insult to like make fun of your face like that yeah so jazelle comes and um karen was like we were just discussing you and she's like okay okay okay and not the best way and i don't want you to not know because and she's like okay okay you can go now you can leave now goodbye yeah i'm not here to waste time with you kiera so um she sits and has a talk about with Angel. Yeah, Angel gets a paper towel and starts immediately crying and Giselle is actually really surprised. And I think she's like genuinely surprised here. She's like, oh, wait, wait, you're crying? Oh, no, no, no, no. And she, and Giselle's like, oh, my God, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Like, Giselle has that thing of like, I don't know, maybe some people will think this is fake because Angel thinks it's fake. But I felt like Giselle was like, oh shit, okay, maybe like, like, okay,

like something's wrong. Let me, let me tend to this. Went too far or something. It seemed like she was generally like, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't want to hurt you. Just being I think she's basically saying I was just being shady. I thought you'd be down with it because you got cast on the show but like you're more sensitive than I realize okay sorry I apologize. I apologize. And she's like by no means

do I want to hurt you? Wow. And Angel's saying you know I'm disappointed because I look at you kind of like a big sister. Okay. Okay. You don't know her that well. Yeah. What would you call? Why would you look at Giselle as a big sister? I wouldn't. Well, you know, a big sister that maybe pushes you down the stairs and stuff because she she's probably scary but she's like and then you know my experience was

just it's just fucked and it's not something I expected and especially not from you being a mother we all know that people who are mothers are morally above everybody else in the world we know it yeah being a mother as a mother how could joselle as a mother do something so cruel to a younger person I'm like, do you know the first rule of mothers? Rule with a reign of terror. But I was just reading about Marlene Dietrich last night because her daughter died. And I had no idea that Marlene Dietrich was the biggest monster of the 20th century. Oh my God.

She like refused to. What she did so bad? It is actually astounding. She would not let her daughter go to school because she wanted her daughter to be her handmaiden. And so, like, the daughter was, and she also did not, like, she didn't like English. She thought it was an ugly language. So she, she didn't want her daughter to, like, learn English. So her daughter would, like, was raised on the set being like her mother's assistant.

And the daughter thought her full name for several years was Maria, Maria, like, daughter of, daughter of, of what, Marlina Dietrich. Like she didn't know she even had a last name. She thought her last name was like daughter and assistant to Marlena Dietrich or something like that. She was, I mean, she had like no friends. She was not allowed to have friends. I mean, it goes on and on. The O bit for her that was in the New York Times is astounding. And I guess you wrote a big novel about this experience in the 90s about how what a monster

of Marlena Dietrich was. And it is wild. So that's why when Angel's like, as a mother, I would expect more from you. It's like, don't, some mothers are not going to be so nice, okay? You might have Marlina. This may be a Marlina Dittrick situation. Oh, God. So now we're against chores.

I mean, RAP complain me, Jane. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, that's crazy. I didn't know. All I know about Marlina Dutrik is that she said, I've ought to be alone. That's actually Greta Garbo. Because I thought that too, but it's actually Greta Garbo. I don't know shit about Marlena Dietrich then.

Yeah, it's wild. It's like the stories. She's basically, she would make a great real housewife. She basically would steal her daughter's thunder all the time, constantly like calling her up, constantly making her do, like, do crazy things. And she had, she would always, I mean, she was just like having sex with men every single night.

And, like, the daughter would just have to, like, deal with all these guys coming in the house. It's wild. It's great. God forbid your mother has a life. Okay. It's time for coming. It's time for a crap and's commercial.

So, Giselle, so she basically puts it to Giselle. And I thought this was a good way to put it. She's like, you know, I give myself to my children. And, you know, I was a red carpet host before children. And part of my currency was my appearance. And so to you, you making fun of my appearance, that was very mean. And she's like, oh, oh, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I get it because I remember being in your shoes just having kids back to back all of that and I remember it like it was yesterday and I get it I get it and I would show up to everything that those kids did with my normal face that you see here and whenever I was in a picture with them maybe I was crying on the inside but on the outside I had this face that you see right here and recognize I was just so I get it I was just asking you questions because you're a beautiful woman and I wasn't seeing that beautiful woman that I'm looking at okay just now you're now this is

bullshit you were not trying to like uncork her her beauty you were being messy you were like you put a different fit you were trying to call her out for bullshit for her bullshit you were not trying to empower her beauty yeah she was being a dick and uh so she's like you know um i just think you're so gorgeous i was trying to help you because i don't see that on social media i see somebody else so again i apologize and you're looking at me sideways like fuck you ho i get it but i am sorry And she's like, well, thanks for apologizing. I'm glad you came here and apologize. And she goes, can I give you a hug?

And she's like, no, I'm okay right now. We didn't give hugs on the red carpet. So I'm not giving them to you now. Please leave my villa. Please. This Instagram nonsense has put me into bed. I will not take off my sunglasses. I will not recover from this.

She sounds like, okay, but I am very sorry. Please, just go. I've been told I look like a filter. Okay. All right. Real it in a little. Angel's like, this conversation is so shallow and unnecessary. And at the end of the day, you get no filters for nothing.

How I look doesn't affect anybody but me. And my husband likes it. So that's all that matters. And I have a husband. I'm like, okay. Okay. Yeah. Let's.

Oh, yeah. We know. You talk about it every two seconds. And I'm glad that that gives you something to, fight with. I'm glad you can wield your husband as a weapon filter. Okay. Yeah. So, Giselle's like, well, do you want to walk over to breakfast? And she's like, I need a second. I'm like, oh, big mistake. You're letting Giselle get there first to control. The narrative angel. Come on now. Be smarter. Yeah. Amateur. So, um, just I was like, okay, I'm not going to hug you.

Okay. Well, maybe I will hug you, but I'll tap your arms up. I'll tap your arms up. And, uh, She just, I was like, listen, you can't accuse me of body shaming her because the picture I was referring to was just her face. Okay. So, face shaming. It's much better. You can't get me on this one, guys. She's like, you know. She's like, save your tweets. Save your tweets, bitches. One minute, the girl wants to hug me. In the next minute, she doesn't. And like, just give me the same energy. And because we see also. Right. She is right. That last night. Yeah, we see last night. And they made up. You know, she called her out for the cat. fish comment they made up they hug they had a great time everyone's like we love you angel and they wake up and angel's like now I'm really mad yeah I have time to think about it and now I'm really upset about it yeah honestly angel like no it's expired it's expired it's done and it's expired and you're giving way too much energy to the and you're the one who did the crazy filters on your face sorry you did so jazelle leaves and then angels like oh these bitches they all go

to the pool and josell joins the ladies she's like I'm captain save the hose so we're going to save the whole day. First, I'm going to feed y'all, and then we're going on excursions. But Ashley declares that she wants to talk with Kay for a minute. She's just going to have a scene with Kay off to the side. So it's kind of funny. You're like watching them be like, okay, I'll do a scene with you and we're going to do a scene over here. You guys talk over there and we'll talk about you over here. Okay, have fun. Fight later. Yeah. Ashley's like, okay, I'm going to try and help you again by giving you another scene to shine. Okay, are you ready? Let's talk about Angel. Angel was so upset.

And Giselle says she went over and talked to her and stuff. And Stacey's like, whoa, can you guys tell us what you were talking about? What happened? Were you talking about earrings and how they're better when they're long and dangly and that everybody loves them like that? How can you nod? Am I right? So long, so shiny, so swingy, so dangly. Well, okay, well, why don't you all?

Okay. So I'm, so she basically, Wendy joins and now, um, we cut over to Ashley and Kierna before Gizal can tell everyone about what happened. And then she's like, you look really good in case. She's like, you know, she's like, your buddy's bang. Well, okay, let's see what I can. Okay, let's say my intent. Okay, so here are you, babe.

Well, I'm not going to lie. I was like very upset yesterday with Angel. Like, making insensitive jokes is like not getting to know each other. And that's why I, like, did not want to reengage for the aftermarty. You know what I mean? So you're upset with how they treated Angel. So your response. was to just abandon Angel?

I don't understand that at all. To leave Angel alone with the vultures. Yeah, great move. And now she's like, okay, that's fair, babe. That's fair. Yeah, and you know the Wendy of it all, too. I mean, it bothers me. We're having this disconnect,

and then, you know, to have Jazzy add to the discone. You're having a disconnect because you accused Wendy of being a bad friend for no reason, for not waving to you from a stage. I know. That's why you're having the disconnect. Because we're coming from, and then you're having another disconnect

because you're accusing Wendy of trying to steal your pre-ness party and all of this other shit. You were starting to disconnect. You were disconnecting. Yeah. And then don't forget, there was Wendy who said, oh, did you do your own makeup? And then there's also Wendy who didn't acknowledge Kierna's presence quickly enough when Kierna sat down in the middle of Wendy's conversation with Giselle. Like all these things Kierna has basically gone into her head about. And then the Jassy thing, I barely even remember what the Jassy thing was.

but I just know that when Jassy showed up, Kieran was giving her stink eye at the Preakness. So, like, these are all kind of on Kierna's side. And then she's acting like she's, you know, on the receiving end of a whole bunch of bullshit that she started. So then the other group, Tia's like, as soon as ages are going to come for breakfast with us because if she doesn't, I may go back to my room

because there's some sort of Rachel Maddow appearance on today's show this morning. She's like, no, she's going to come, but a little bit later. And Stacey's like, well, I just thought it was rude that we were all celebrating Wendy and Kay wasn't there. Wasn't that a terrible thing? Wasn't that so rude? Right. Wendy, do you want to get upset about that? I'll start the ball rolling on that one.

Well, what I'm realizing is Kay continues to show herself to have not have really ever been my friend. Her slip is showing. Her slip is showing. So now Angel comes over and Kierna calls her her Sour Patch kid. And then they go back with the other girls. So Ashley's asking Angel how she is and Angel's still moping. She's like, I'm fine. I'm fine.

I've had a very, very serious discussion about Facebook builders today. And Karen was like, well, Giselle did say that she apologized. She goes, she did. And I appreciate the apology. And I'll leave it at that. Oh, for Christ's sake, ladies, real housewives. If this is going to crumble, you just go home. Yeah.

And I'll leave it at that as if like it was a really deep and difficult conversation that we're not going to reopen. Like, okay, like, I'm sorry. You're being way too dramatic about this stupid fight. And so Ashley's like, and you checked in with everybody today? Because, you know, you have to do that after you have a fight, you know, to make sure that you're good with everyone. Otherwise, I'll talk about you. And she's like, well, Bobby was ready to hop on a jet. Let me tell you.

He was going to charter one because he doesn't play about me. And we flash back to Bobby being like, um, just all's almost six years old. And she's talking about this. It's like Photoshop. Yeah, let's dive into some pictures of her past. like she's like yeah like that's fine that's a perfectly fine point i wouldn't because she looks like a supermodel in every single one so i wouldn't do that maybe holy whores you know like scandals or something like that although he's doing really well he just he just said uh he just

gave i don't know if he gave back or he got rid of some something there were like a million dollars in donations to the church and he's like don't give these to us give these to the people who need their snap benefits. Oh, good for Jamal. That was nice. Good for Jamal. Yeah, he's getting a lot of good, he's doing a lot of good things these days. So, um, so we come back to the present and Giselle's like, well, I sat down with Angel

and she just, the tears, the tears were rolling down her face, ah, they were rolling down her face. Oh, but guys. Oh, go ahead. I was going to say guys, I still need to catch up here because she took charge and turned this around and I thought we

had nipped this in the bird. Someone, please keep up. Can someone please tell you, Angel, over there to keep up? I really like saying that to people. Yeah, and she's like, I don't understand how we haven't moved on and what is staying in it. And Wendy's like, well, it seems like there's a persistent dark cloud with the same two people. I just don't feel like it's our job to continuously coddle people. And just I was like, no, it's not.

And Wendy's like, yeah, because we're here to have a good time. Okay, but then Wendy's going to immediately start shit too. So they are. It's like all these people mad all the time. And then Wendy's like, so Kierna, like in the next scene. Well, being mad is different than being sulky in a dark cloud, I think, on this show. Like, mad is fine. That's like just part of like the love language on Real Housewives.

But if someone's like moping and being like, why me? And they're like, they're making bad television. That's when they get really insulted. Well, that's true. Yeah. Okay, good point. So she says, you know, she hopes to. Angel can turn it around because right now it's giving the sad sisters duo and it is because they are both moping around.

They're both being huge victims about everything and it's, you know, at post production, it's it's a total dishrag. It's like the, it's like the worst. It's like, it's like, because you know, we all have different dishrags and there's always one that's like the worst and she's like the worst. And you know what ones are the worst and I'm so sick of these fucking dishrags? The water resistant dishrags. Why would you make those? I don't understand them. I saw those. I don't. why would you make those they're they're a quality of dish i'm sure you've had them that don't really sop up any water they just move everything around on the those are more like they make me crazy it's actually hard to get a what is that it's like cheap tourist shit where it's really just kind of like a

fun image but there's actually no ply so it can't actually absorb the water yeah oh i hate them and i always buy them on accident because they're so cute that's like all the cute towels yeah that's like whatever happened to cotton let me tell you something If someone gives you a tea towel that says something like, I don't know, like I got a pun about the kitchen. Like, what's the one with the Brie? Like, Brie have a, life is a breeze as like spelled Brie, but with a Z or something like that.

It's not going to stop up anything. You don't need, if there's a slogan on your, on your dish towel, it's not going to do shit. You need it to be a very simple pattern. And you know it's going to do the work. It's going to do the work. Like those red and white William Sonoma. are, those are major.

There's a reason why they show up on below deck. And believe me, I track them because they're a mage. Yeah, my niece always gets me dish towels, like that's her thing. One of my nieces always gets me one. And they're like, it's my kitchen bitch.

And like, I'm trying to think of another one. She gets me like a lot of sassy gay, you know, let's dish. Sassy gay dish towels. And so I have to always put them out when I have people over. And people are like, what are these dish towels?

It's like, I like, but. I like guy butts Like, okay, we can calm down On the gay pride The gay pride dish town Don't need those But I want to say What's so funny

Is post-production Is so shady to Kierna Because literally every scene This entire episode When all the women are having fun They keep on cutting to Kierna With like A shitty look on her face

Like They are really emphasizing That she is a dark cloud And it's hilarious I love when post-production adds just subtle little nods that are not, they're not highlighted, they don't spend a lot of time, and they just flash by, but it's like, we see you post-department, and we know what you're doing, and it's great.

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