Watch What Crappens - #3068 RHOC S19E18 Part One: Behind the Candelabra

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

This is part one of a two-part recapThe Real Housewives of Orange County begins its reunion with Tamra claiming to be changed as she tells Shannon to shut up over and over again, Emily finding a new diagnosis for her son, and Gretchen claiming that Slade works for Liberace. Surely we can’t think she’s a bigot now! You can watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Wow. Hannah and her family are staying here and her husband, her mother. So I've got a whole family in here. I've got a little five-year-old running around jumping all over me. It taught her how to make cookies, how to play a Nintendo Switch. I saw that picture. We were having so much fun. Yeah. I'm going to be so sad. when they leave. I'm going to be familyless again. I'm going to be alone. Alone again. But it's been so fun. I've been having a lovely family time. How's it been going over there with you? Um, so much fun. I've been, I built a chair. What? Scratch. Like I, no, not from scratch. Like I assembled one that came. No. That's hard too. Came from Amazon. But I built it as the wrong color for me. And now I'm like, uh, you know, like when you assemble a piece of furniture and

like it doesn't fit like now the process of getting furniture out of like what now i've got to figure out how to get this out back back to another land so um that's like what's plaguing me this morning so the the point is that nothing is new as me actually that's what i mean it's nothing nothing's happening over here um i have a chair report well we are going to bravo con next week that's new that's going to be fun for us we are going to make a pilgrimage we will be doing moderating the next-gen NYC panel, which is going to be the very last panel of the whole thing.

Oh, I removed Ben, or maybe Ben removed himself. Anyway, we're going to moderate the next-gen-N-YC panel the last day. We are going to have a meet-up at some point. It'll be free for everybody to just come say, hey, to meet some of you guys. We're not sure of the date yet, but we should know hopefully by the beginning of the week.

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Whatever. You also get links over at our Instagram, link in bio. So check that out. And today, it is, Real Housewives of Orms County Reunion, part one for season 19. What say you?

What are your general thoughts about this here? Reunion. Okay, general thoughts. First, I love that we just got right into the reunion. We did not have to see people arrive, people in glam, Andy, visiting each room.

I love that we just started. I love that. Second of all, is it me, did this really look kind of shitty? It looked. Was it me that was the lighting? Shitty. Dog shit. It looked like dog shit.

Dog shit. Embarrassing. The scream. Embarrassing. What was the set supposed to be? The set was terrible. I think it looked like maybe it was supposed to be New Orleans. It was terrible.

I don't know. Andy didn't even do a shout out to the set. It just was like everything looked flat. All the light was flat. All their hair looked like matte and dry. Like there was no gloss. There was no shine, the light, all their, the color scheme, they're all wearing this, like, like, maroon or pink. It just was like, why would you pick maroon?

You can't pull off maroon? A bunch of blonde white ladies. If you were going to do maroon, yeah, it was like not, it wasn't giving what it was supposed. Maybe, maybe it was some sort of like reference to like a weird New Orleans element. I don't know, but it was like the color scheme didn't work. The lighting was flat. everyone's hair everyone's hair looked dry

and I think that was a lighting effect like it didn't well it's also reality slipping into TV because their hair is dry this is Orange County okay I mean they've never met a hot oil treatment that they didn't ignore in that place apparently what

what happened to their like panoramic LED screen that they had for like the past few years where they were like out in the middle of the ocean that looked great for this cast but this was just like oh like everything every day and then they just mess up the way a reunion looks.

And this one, I just, I actually had times I was watching and I was like, I don't want to physically look at this anymore. Yeah, the lighting was too bright. And also the coloring of the people was wrong. Everybody was really orange and I guess part of it, spray town. But Shannon. Except for Heather. Shannon was wearing like a weird like reverse kabuki mask where she was completely one color

all the way up right below her hairline and then was stark white. She looked crazy. Even Katie, who's the most beautiful hand-down, looked a little crazy in the lighting. Everybody looked nuts. Emily, Emily, stop it. Whatever you're doing, stop it. You're a beautiful lady. Just stop it.

At this point, it's self-harm. You know, it goes to a point where it's like you're hurting yourself. Just stop it. You're so beautiful. What are you doing? You know, you can't even move your face right. You're blinking wrong. You know, words are coming out of your ears and, you know, teeth are falling out of your mouth.

Just stop it. one eye's big or one eye. Just stop. Whatever you're doing to yourself, just leave yourself alone. It's self-harm. Okay. I, my only real note for Emily, I actually thought by and large, she looked fine. My only really note was it seemed like they had added so much hair to her. Like, she had more hair than usual. And I felt like, I just felt like it was like weighing her down. It was just like a big pile of hair. Every time they cut her, I was like, oh my God, there's so much hair. And the light was hanging in a way where it just looked, it just looked like a bunch of big dry hair. I was like, no. And we're not, you know,

We're in California, so we're like fire danger. You know, you see things like that and you're like, you better clean it up. You're going to get a ticket from the city. And this isn't even like, like, oh, let's make fun to have the women look. It's not even that. This is a styling issue. These are the women we all know in line. They deserve better.

Okay, we deserve. They deserve to be treated well. It looks like they just like threw them up there without anybody working on them. You know, and we even saw some of the stylist. And I was like, what are you proud about? How are you even showing your face on camera right now? All of you. shame.

Yeah. Well, it's Orange County stylist. Andy looked good, actually. Andy looked good. But I think that overall, this entire reunion was a real, was a real dog. My second, yeah. That's on the production team. My second thing beyond, you know, the production of how it looked and stuff is the energy level was real weird.

Everybody was just like super low energy and like whatever. You know, Tamara's just like, whatever, yell at me. I'll just tell Shannon to shut up. And no one was really there or present. And the whole having Gretchen come on and everybody just kissed Gretchen's ass, like, did no one else watch the last episode? Like, what is going on? What is happening? Like, I didn't understand what was happening or how people came in with the personalities they came in, why people are mad at Katie and not mad at fucking Gretchen who's sitting there.

Or Tamara, who just got the whole blog leaking thing out. I was just very confused. Well, they don't know about that. They don't know about the blog leaking thing. They said, that's going to be a secret thing. think it was teased that they're going to reveal that. You're right. But I, um, I actually didn't undermine the energy. So I need some kind of, I need like, let's not kiss Gretchen's ass the whole time. Well, it also just goes to show how transparent they kind of all are about, about that stuff.

Because I thought, and I was really surprised that Heather was actually, like, quite friendly towards Gretchen and was helping her out with some answers. That was a surprise to me. I think we'll probably get more insight into what's going on with their relationship. relationship in a future episode. But the energy was low, but I think that's because Tamara set the tone. Because she's like, I'm in therapy. And she's just like, she's trying to be calm.

I was, by the way, also surprised that Jen got first seat. I honestly think as much as I can't really stand her this season, Emily should have been first seat on that sofa. Because I felt like really so much of this season was about Emily. When you talk about, oh my God, the season's not good, like everyone goes, oh, well, yeah, Emily is this, Emily's that. It feels like Emily was really driving this season. whether we like it or not.

And she should have been first. Like, I think the only reason why they put Jen in first chair is because I think sometimes they like people if they have a beef to be able to fight across the sofa like eye to eye. So I think because Tamara's first, they had to put Jen first. But like, Jen did not earn first seat for this season. No.

You know, and I'm wondering sometimes what they're doing with first seat now if they're trying to make it less important and just like, well, everybody's, you know, someone's going to get it. You know, because there have been a first few seat choices that have been odd this year. So, yeah, who knows? But here we go. Real Housewives of Orange County. We start with Tamara coming in.

And she's like, I've been on to show 15 fucking years. I'm just tired of it. And then we see a flashback to Jen and Gina and Shannon finding out that Tamara has leased the season. Two bloggers. Bluggers. And then flash forward to Tamara. Now she's outside going, that's no proof. And then we go to the final episode where someone's like,

she does do a lot of talking. It's Chris Samuels. Chris Samuels is the leak. And then we flash forward. Then we're forward again. And Tamara's like, there's nothing in writing. Bonus.

Bonus sob. Yeah, but nothing this season has anything in writing. There's no writing in proof. There's no proof in writing. So since when does that matter to you people? Like, you can't start that now in the reunion episode. Suddenly we have to have written. proof. Oh, okay. So, and you look, I know that everybody loves Katie. I actually like Katie, too.

I think people are going a little overboard in their defensive, Katie, because how much all the other women suck, because Katie is also still full of shit. And Katie reminds us that she is still 80% full of shit when she comes back on here. Or, you know, I don't know if it's just that she's 80% full of shit or if everybody has just agreed, we're not backing her up on any little thing. So it just looks like she's lying. I'm not even sure. this point, but she didn't bring a ton of energy either. So I'm not really jumping on that bandwagon either. I mean, Katie is not known for her energy, I would say. But yeah, I mean, I think, like, I think we all know. Katie is slippery with the truth for sure, but we are so offended by the way the entire cast discarded her when other people on the cast are equally slippery that it just feels so rude that we just have to rally behind her. And also, she's so pretty. We're like, well, I mean, how could they discard someone so pretty from Orange County?

That's so rude. I'm just such hypocrites too, you know, but I guess that's the name of the game this season. So let's, let's do it. Bring it on. So then we also see, we're still seeing these flash forwards and flashbacks. And the next flash forward is Tamara now, of course, having her classic hyperventilating in the back, in the back room. And Katie's like, okay, just go home, decompress the day, let Eddie, you know, win you over with a sparkling personality, just relax a little bit. Is this, it's not what the show is about.

It's not what the show is about. The show is about me with and other people. The show is nothing with me the stress. Come on, guys. So, she's crying her big crocodile tears. And tonight is the three-part. Real live of Oregon County Reunion. I'm Andy Collin.

I have children. All right. I just have to say one thing, because I wasn't sure if this was a preview of what's to come. or if this was a, like, a little flash of, like, we're getting the reunion ready. But in case it never shows up for the next two episodes, I have to say there was this, they had this one shot of Heather sitting down on the sofa.

And she's like, this is neither my slip side nor my nose side. She was so mad about being on that side of the set. Yeah, they were like, that's where we had room. Just sit down fancy pants. It's the wrong side from my slit and my nose. So we see the ladies getting into glam. Katie has brought a basket of vodka and bagels.

That's pretty funny. Tamara is showing her nipple cover. It's like, this is a look. This is it. And then we go to Gina looking in the mirror, which, I mean, that was the biggest shock that she's been given one. Gina's been giving a lot of credit for her outfit. I don't think this was one of Gina's worst, but she did look like a napkin fold over her boobs. I'm not sure what that was about.

I was like, are you filing your boobs? Are you, what's that? Who made this outfit and why? Why would they do that? What does it represent? I liked when she looked in the mirror and she goes, Who is that girl? I see staring straight back at me.

Why is my reflection someone I don't know? I feel bad for my reflection. Oh my one. Why is my reflection putting up a sheet in the middle of the mirror to make the mirror a big enough for a while? whole family. You know in horror movies, when someone stares a mirror and then like the thing in the mirror

comes out and grabs them by the neck? Yeah. This is the first time we actually saw the reflection be like, bye. Yeah. It's like, here's a towel. Please put it over your outfit. Please. Reflections like, I'm feeling being. Like, here's a towel to help out. We both look better.

Yeah. So we see some flash forwards of what's coming in the reunion, which I think we can probably skip. Because guess why? We're going to see it over the next three episodes. And I already kind of flash forward. And I accidentally said some of it already with Heather. So, okay, five, four, three, two, one. Hey, everyone, welcome to the Real House House of Orange County Season 19 Reunion. I'm Andy Cohen presiding over a time-honored ceremony that'll be equal parts solemn and revealing,

like getting married in a white bikini. Ha, ha, ha. No one wants to, Jen, you're not even laughing at that. You're not even laughing at that joke. Wow. I love that he said that. He's like, he gives a Jen line and then it cuts to Jen and she's like, Um, who got married in a white bikini?

Who did that? That sounds so fun. Solid. Oh, I wish I could have come to that wedding. That would have been great. Thank you so much. I was just invited. Thank you so much.

Okay. Hi, Shannon Storms, Badur. How are you? How, Andy? I am good. I'm just here in this red, which I'm not very comfortable with. If I'm not dressed in black or yellow, I don't really know what to do with myself. So I'm just going to spiral here in the corner.

Thank you very much. I'm just hoping a lovely bald man with a giant mansion will come adopt me and give me a wife that Adelaide would be in Fias. Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow. Why is she dressed like little orphan Annie? Why? Little orphan, shanny. Why is she dressed like that? There's just so much confusing about this whole reunion.

Why is Shannon dressing like a 12-year-old girl in like Southern Catillion? Like, who's dressing Shannon and when are they going to help? Just so much that needs to be addressed. Okay, so she's fine. She spent a week at the Golden Door. So she's feeling very zen. Okay. Yeah, very zen.

Heather, Heather do bro. Nice to see you. You said you wanted to be a Beverly Hills housewife because the drive was shorter until Kyle Richards said, who? No. Is Reba available? How was the drive tonight? And she's like, it was seven minutes, Andy.

Which is weird because it doesn't. She says she lives in Beverly Hills. Is that that close to Culver City? No, they're, yeah, no, their, their apartment is in Century City in one of those high rises. So all you have to do is take motor, take motor on down into Culver City and you arrived at Sony Studios. And let me tell you something, that is probably about a seven-minute drive. So, you know, the first time that it was actually easy to get to Culver City. Congratulations, a little, bro, you did it.

Yeah. So, um, so she gets, she, she had a short drive. By the way, that explains everything. That's why this reunion looks so shitty. It was filmed in Culver City. Oh, okay. We cracked the code. Okay.

Hi, Emily. What's different? Everything. Everything is fucking different. At this point, you're going to have to tap her forehead to snooze the alarm button. Everything is different. Stop that. That's hilarious.

Tap us. What even is she? She's a machine now. She's like, thank you. I'm a Sony dream machine. Yeah, I got my shit together after we finished filming. You know, I was feeling a little heavy. So I just kept saying, Susan Bender, over in my mind over and over again.

We came right off. Bitch with the jeans. Ah, you know, I wasn't taking care of myself, so I just got myself together. Yeah, you look like you lost weight. Yeah, I probably lost 25 to 30 pounds, but I gained it all back again. Oh, really? Well, just in the hair. There's really a lot of hair on me tonight.

Okay, well, did you lose weight? So you talk about weight and, you know, like, is she working out again, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, I'm so sick of talking about weight. I'm sick of talking about it. I'm sick of hearing it. You've been on a no-carb thing. Then we went on Jeff yesterday. I'm off of it.

All he talked about was weight and this and that and everyone who works for him is talking about weight all the time. And I'm the only chubby one sitting over here like, listen, let's stop me of all people who's talking. I talked about weight every day of his life is finally sick of it. I'm finally sick of it. I've had it. It was all a giant ploy to get you sick of it. Well, it worked. You guys did it.

Emily, I don't care, okay? I don't care about your workout program, you know, but good for you. I don't care, but good for you. Shut up about it. How is the, how is the assisted living real estate business going? Oh my God. It's going really well. Yeah, I just sold like a, I sold an efficiency over in Costa Mesa the other day. It was so good. Yeah, you know, it's a lot of work, but, like, it feels so good to sleep again. Because it's like all about sleeping. I love sleeping. Slop, slap, slap, slap, slap, slap, slap, slap, slap, slap.

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perspectives of those who did everything they could to survive. Follow Against the Odds on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes of Against the Odds, Tsunami in Thailand, early and ad-free right now on Wondery Plus. All right. Okay. That's good. I feel like I just slept five miles. else listen to you talk. Okay, Katie. Hi, Katie. It's great to see you again. She talked about she ruined my life. I will never. I will never talk to you again. Hi, I am done with you. Done. We missed you for the back half of the season and you're here with the group again. I wonder, how are you feeling about being back with the group? Do you have any intentions for the day? I love when Andy acts like he's at the golden door. He's like, guys,

What are our intentions? Your intentions are for people to fight their asses off. Okay, that's what your intentions are. What do I have to tell you? But, you know, you have to pretend you're there to make up with people. So he's just gaslighting. So she's like, well, I feel like I need to make up for some lost time, Andy, because some things didn't get sad and just happy to be here.

Thank you so much. Yeah, I just need to make up for some lost time because so much happened on the season after I left. Just kidding. The season kind of crescendo. after I left. So I guess we're all caught up now. Great. Jen, did Ryan sexualize you

on your way here? He's like, yeah, touch my boobs. He touched my chin a lot. He put his penis up my nostrils. So that was fun. Never tried that one. Wow. I just worry. Maybe he's not here for the right reasons. Am I right? Thank you, Andy. Thank you so much for asking.

All right. Well, Tamara, that was great. Thanks, Jen. Finally, Tagra. You recently had your 24th breast surgery. Is that true? Yeah, that's true. I had weakestracted surgery because my pectoral message was attached to my face. And I was like, whoa, as long as you're in there, can you add a third boob?

And they did, bitch, three boom, Tamara. She said pectoral. She's like, yeah. You know how it's another reunion, another pet rock. Yeah, what are you going to do? Give me some boobies. I love it. I was like how many times, I wish we had a montage of Andy just doing reunion questions of, hey, Tamara, you got a new rack.

Hey, Tamara, are those new boobs? Tell me about your new boobs. It's every season. Why are we acting like this is a new thing? They're going up and down and up and down. They need to just make those things screw on and screw off at this point. So you could just change them out at well. That's very hurtful.

You know how they do your boobs? That's a great idea. They like go under all your muscles and shit. That's not an easy thing. You would think watching this for 19 years that it would be an easy thing. But it is not an easy thing. It should just be like a door, you know? So yeah, she basically is like, while you're fixing that,

that my muscle, can you do a little something with the boobs? That's what everyone says to plastic surgeons. While you're there, let me, from the top, they always say plastic surgeons be like, need me to fix something? Because while you're in there, am I, Alfredo, thank you. Don't stand there like,

sorry, sorry, I was looking for something in my purse. I've been schlepping. I've been slapping. If you ever step on my joke again, Gina, it will cost you a lot. That's another threat. Well, I'll take a laugh wherever I can get it. Thank you. Thank you. It's the only way to get effort to shut up in a monologue. So, Tamara's like, by the way, I'm going to be quitting today.

That's okay. Remember what I quit to everybody? It's so fond of. I'm a classic. I'm a classic. And she's like, what's the day is young, right, Andy? She's trying to make Andy ask her this question. Are you going to quit today, Tamara?

What she doesn't. So she just makes it on her own. And Heather's like, let's not make big statements. Like Terry gets in the mail after I go shopping with my American Express. There we go. Back on track. Thank you. Thank you.

So Tamara's happy because Teddy's doing really well. She, her tumors are like, they like went away, which is, by the way, I mean, that's wild. Another question she wasn't asked. I love that she's trying to make this like whole big Tamara segment, but Andy's not asking her any of these questions. So she's like, yeah, I'm doing great. Cut the Teddy. No one asked, but yes, it's great. Let's Teddy.

That's doing so good. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Who cares? Who even is Teddy? Wow, that's amazing. So Teddy is all healed up.

So let's follow it up with some more important news. Hey, you went to Alexis Belillo's wedding. How was that? You said it was one of the most beautiful weddings you ever attended. Tell me all about it. Oh, okay, I guess we'll just move on from Teddy, no longer having cancer, to talk about Alexis's Mason-Jar wedding.

Okay, yeah, it was beautiful. I feel so weird talking about it in front of Shannon. Sorry, Shannon, no disrespect to you. A person who's never invited to weddings because it's stupid. No, no, no. I'm a mature woman, and I saw the pictures. It looked, it was beautiful. And the flower arrangement, I mean, that must have cost, I don't know, maybe like $75,000.

Oh, I don't know. How much of the cents does that cost? Did I have my names in the centerpieces since I basically paid for it? It was standing, Andy. She's standing. He's like, nice. Jen, were you invited? There was some drama.

And Emma was like, shit was uninvited. And Jen's like, yeah, well. Just like Katie should be to everything. Hold on, hold on. Let me answer. Please. Let me answer. I was invited, but then I was uninvited.

Go ahead. No, I said, fine. You said, let me answer it. I said, fine. Sounded like a cascade of, uh, was about to come out of you, so just wanted to make sure he had your chance to speak. Just answer the question, Jen. But when she got married, I texted her back, and she said, why are you sending me a penis? And I said, Brian, why are you texting Alexa?

Sorry, but I did want to talk to you anyway and say, your wedding looked beautiful. and Ryan's Walsack even loved it. It was great, really, really good. And then she said, I wish there was a world where we could be together. Are you free? Can you and Ryan come? And I said, well, I think I just got re-invited to the wedding. I mean, Alexis, I wish there was a world where you could be re-invited.

Yeah, there is a world. It's called, you should have invited her in the first place. I mean, come on. She's acting like she is, like, there's some sort of, like, authority that's looking down at her and, like, banning her from inviting her. It was your choice. I just wish I could. I wish there was a world we could be together. But so why did she get uninvited in the first place?

It's because she's just such a good friend of Shannon. And Alexis heard that she was just such a good friend of Shannon. And it didn't feel right for Alexis. So she uninvited her, you know. And now in the morning, she eats her chia sheets in a mason jar that she had to buy herself. Andy, wasn't free from a wedding. Wasn't holding flowers in a wedding. I actually supplied my own chia cup now.

Thank you. Yeah. Okay, Tamara, you joke about quitting today, but do you have any intentions for the day? See, if you had just waited, I would have made a joke about you quitting. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, can I get to the season? I was emotionally in like a really difficult spot. Oh, really?

Are you still going to therapy? That was a rhetorical question. Of course you are, because it's all you talk about. Yeah, because I was there Monday at therapy, and I was just like, try not to get reactive when I get upset, but I get upset so much because I get in therapy. Now I'm in therapy. Do you know that? I'm in therapy. I'll go to therapy all the time.

Sometimes I'm next. You want to have nice. No, I'm going to have therapy. So I've got to therapy. So I just got to have to therapy. I'm on the phone right now with my therapy. I'm a good person. She said I'm a good person, everybody. I love therapy. Therapy is great.

You've not been to therapy. You've been to therapy two times. No, that's wrong. I went to subway. They asked if I want six inch or 12 inch. I said, how about an hour long? Because that's how long my therapy sessions are. They gave it to me because I'm in therapy.

I love therapy. It's my new favorite thing to do. Therapy's so great. He's like, okay, well, good to see you doing it. Shut up, silly, stupid bitch. I have you done your sleepy fat, I'm the bitch. Yeah, maybe I'll go to therapy again.

I love therapy, that way. Well, I did think that somehow you were going to have a different approach to conflict this season based on the therapy. What? You didn't think I was comedy this season than any other? He's like, uh, let's roll the package. And we just cut to her, be like, Thank you, precious.

And then quitting. And then we cut back and she's like, Huh, okay, well, I guess some people just don't understand. Happy Wigs! And Gina's like, well, I feel like some things with therapy, things get worse before they got better. That's what we've been saying ever since you came on the show. The show's getting worse.

And before it gets better. Um, so she's like, because like, you open stuff off and you're like, wha, and then you're like not a changed person. Yeah. Yeah. That's that totally true. Jen's like, yeah, but like, you want to make a change for adults. Just like make the change. You know what?

I know. But like, then you also have to understand that like when I was going to therapy, I was like on a good track. And then like two weeks ago filming with everything that was going on. Teddy. Jenny, it's around me. You don't understand. I don't know. It's like.

No, I mean, I understand. It's very scary and sad, but like... I've sat through so much faux-Bravo therapy that I just, I can't with your therapy storyline. Seeing it doesn't work, Jax, okay? It doesn't fucking work. So, Jenna's like, well, it's just, it's just so hard. And I was, I was probably inappropriate for me to say, but I didn't get the grace that you're asking everyone else for. The grace that I had given you, you, you.

You got the grace. Where was my grace? What? I have not, no, I have not asked anybody for some grace. Give me some grace about that for once. So Jen's like, well, it just feels like we're all assholes if we want to move forward in conversations that are tough with you because now you're going through the hardest time in your life. And she's saying she didn't feel like that that she got that when she was going through the hard time in my life. Yes, I was going through the hardest time in my life.

I mean, there to be the victim of Archie's drunk driving and being an innocent spectator in the backseat. It was terrible for me. Okay, Charlie. whatever. No, we don't need to go. We don't need to go back. We don't need to go back. I'm just saying, it was frustrating. I am bringing up to you.

He's not going to go back, but oh, yeah, you're hanging out with your mom in the 50s then. Then why is it called back to the future? To be fair, that movie was in 1985, and they said that by the time we got to 2020, that where we were going, we wouldn't be needing roads. And if that were true, I wouldn't it be any decision in the first place, am I right? I'm just bringing up to you the frustration. that I felt listening to all of this. Oh, yeah, I know, I've seen it all season.

Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I tried very hard for you. Oh, yeah. Oh, sure, you've seen it all season, Tamara, Tamara Drudge. I don't think you have. I don't think you have, because you know what? I'm apparently, I'm the grudge holder. You're, huh, wait as if you're Tamara, grudge.

Not judge, a grudge. You have all the grudges. You can't forget anything. Excuse me. I did not make a joke right then. Someone please tell the audience to be quiet. This is because we're on the wrong side for my slit. Wrong slit side.

Yes, Tamara Grudge. Okay. And Emily's like, that was a good one. Did you say Tamara Grudge? Yeah, I said, Tamara Grudge. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Here's one. How about Shannon be more funny in the future?

Who did that? Someone fixed the strings in Alfredo's drum Well Alexis Bellino said on a podcast a few weeks She thought Shannon was trying to ice timbre out Or get chamber off the show And time it's, oh, 100% Even my therapist was so Give me the chairman, she's a dumb bitch

You tried to come into my therapy Okay, because like that's what Alexis feels Shannon told her Well, I don't even plan what I'm wearing before I film. Okay, I don't even do that. Well, she still doesn't know what she's wearing today. I said she still doesn't know what she's, she's, okay, so the joke is Shannon's dress very poorly and she's very frazzled. So when you say she still doesn't know what she's wearing today, it's an illusion to that.

I don't appreciate that. I do not appreciate that. Who is? Where is Alfredo? Well, I just found out. Is he still in the building? No, I don't try to ice anyone out. And Katie's like, oh, so you didn't call production in the middle of the season and say, I'm uncomfortable, I don't feel safe around Katie, and I want Gretchen to have her orange, I want her out.

You didn't say that. By the way. Oh, thank you. Alfredo, were you in the bathroom? Wrong time. By the way, this sounds exactly like something Shannon would say. I mean, it's just in Katie intonation, so people don't believe it. But listen to it, how Shannon would say it.

I'm uncomfortable. I don't feel safe. All right, Katie, I want Gretchen to have her orange. Just get Gretchen or orange. I want her out. I want her out. Yes, of course she said that. She 100% did it.

Of course she said it. And so Katie's like, Jen, did she have a phone call with Alex during the season? Like, oh, I'm supposed to know if Shannon had a phone call? She's like, well, I heard about it from you. Oh, so now we're just going to. going to go back to where you're going to Jen to validate your stupid lies. You guys all have other people validate for you. Jen's like, we're going to do this again?

She's like, well, before we left for New Orleans, that's what I heard from you. And Alex told you that. She goes, no, you told me that. And he's like, okay, well, Alex just said in my ear that he never spoke about it. And he obviously has no motivation to lie in this moment. So I guess we're just going to move on. Okay. We absolutely trust the man who claims that nobody knew that Gretchen had a horrible, bigoted, a social media account and tried to get no one to talk about it and is still trying to move past this mess.

We all trust Alex Baskin. Okay, moving on. All right, Heather from Tricks or for Kids said, whether it was, I'm sorry, Heather, this is a question for Heather. This is from Lauren from Tricks or for Kids. whether it was a game or not, you and Emily made it clear that you wouldn't trust Tamara with sensitive information. So how can you be friends with Tamara, but never fully share yourself with her? Well, we've been friends a long time. Historical friends. It's like Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr. Or, thank you. Thank you. I have sent in a self-tape to Lynn Manuel to see if I can play for

for Hamilton on Broadway, so we're really in that mindset. Anyway, I care about you a lot. And by care about you a lot, I sometimes, when I'm up in my penthouse, think about you and go, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And then I move on. But, you know, there are inconsistencies

and the unpredictable nature of you sometimes. That's just the truth. What do you want? Well, how do you take that, Tamara, and say, I'm here and I And I'm going to work on that We might have to dig a little bit deeper about that But still out to happen to me

Because I've got as a bit to see it at okay Can I just ask When we talk about that game You know, I said it too I don't know why Tamara's the only one getting questioned Because I said it You know I want to be in the ordinance

Yeah, let me in Okay, well Tamara said you broke her heart By saying that And I'm like Yeah, I know And that's why I'm bringing it up Because you know

I've seen you throw out terrible things about her, Shannon, and she was your best friend for 10 years. Oh, burn, got that one in there. But she threw out terrible things about me too, bitch. Well, I said that you had an ego. No, that's not all that you said. Well, I mean, that's your justification for treating me like shit last year. No, no, that's not all you said, Shannon.

Okay, well, then the little whisper in your ear is inaccurate and a pastor. Whatever this means, I don't know what I'm saying, but I'm going to say it anyway. Oh, yeah, the only one who has crazy whispers and hurry you. Crazy, crazy, whispers. By the way, just for interjecting a little truth in here, Shannon never did that to Tamara, where she came up with some horrible, you know, gossip that's being spread about Tamara and put that out there. Did she? Well, I think this all stems from the demise of the Trace Amigos.

There was so much, you know, there was so much chatter about what happened. And then Tamara, I mean, Shannon and Vicky were alleging that Tamara, like, didn't want to be perfect, blah, blah, blah. There was such a fallout from that. And then that fueled the way Tamara acted last season. And now this season is a reaction to last season. So I think the ego thing may have to do with Tamara's participation in Trace Amegas. I think it was like, oh, now that Tamara found two tease in a pod that then she left Trace Amiga's behind, yada, yada, yada. I think that's the whole giant backstory there.

So Tamara's, so Andy says, why were you so surprised that Emily and Heather would say it who traps you when you've thrown people's secrets in their faces to hurt them? And Tamara's like, look what? Give me an example. I love this game. Give me an example. Go ahead. Do it. He's like, oh.

Oh, like my dad. What about that, for example? My father, he had to put down a martini to turn up the TV to hear that again, that he was an alcoholic. How dare you? How big are you? And so then we have a flash. It's just like, well, you know, Shannon, season 15, you had a conversation with Brownwind saying that you have alcoholism in your immediate family and you went to Al-a-Nine. Is that, Eddie?

Yeah, babe, I came in to help you out. Why don't know the horn? What the hell, Eddie? Well, I kind of, someone once told me that my face always looks. It looks like I'm blowing an invisible horn, so I thought, why not attach a real one? Okay, I'll take it. I love him. I thought he's stupid, stupid lady.

Why'd she talk about going to Elman, then Shannon? Well, the wind see the clip, and Shannon did say that to Bronman, because Bronwyn's like, well, I'm debating going to A.A. for a storyline. So what do you think of that? And Emily's like, well, I grew up with alcoholism in my family. And, but she didn't say it was her dad, you know. It's still vague enough. It could be a grandparent. It could have been...

It could have been anything. And it's also... And it's also Shannon's story to tell. So, Tamara's like... That's okay for you to say that and put it out there. Here's my thing about that whole therapy thing. When Tamara said it, I actually... Like, I know, maybe I'm being naive.

I actually think that Tamara was not trying to, like, fuck with Shannon in that moment. But I think that when Shannon flipped out, Tamara's response should have been like, I'm so sorry. I did not mean to overshare like that. I swear. Instead, her response says, here we go again.

And then she went into the kitchen and was like, she'd probably do that to cover up her own alcoholism. Yeah. So I think that's why I think that Tamara did do it on purpose to say, because she's, she's setting up the evidence. Like her father, she's, you said it yourself, your dad's an alcoholic, so it's only normal that you're an alcoholic. Just admit to being an alcoholic and blame your dad like the rest of us, you know?

And Shannon was like, how are you? And then she's like, oh, really? Maybe that's why she's an alcoholic. Because daddy's not so excuse. Bitch. So. Do you know, you said, you said, You said, okay, let's, let's, okay, okay, okay, you know what, Tamara, we can play the la la game.

What's the la la game? I don't know, but I just invented it, and we can play it if you want. But to sickle out my father, I was in tears, I was in tears having to say, Dad, your pass is not brought up on a television show, and he said, I know, because it's you, you're my pass and you're on this show, and I said, Dad, but look, I said, look, you brought this up, Tamara, and you know what, you know what you said? You know what you said under your breath? And then we see, um, Tamara saying like, I didn't think she did, I don't think she cares,

that she cares about a dad in the first place. How dare you, Tamara? How dare you, Tamara, judge? And she's like, well, that's because I was pissed off at the way you're at then, Shannon. Yeah. Yeah, and it'd be a horrible person. You're 97 years. Oh, she said, it'd be horrible.

Yeah, okay, listen, when it comes to my dad, who told me two weeks ago, I'm going to cry. Hold on again. The minute that Marilyn Monroe got off his lap and wiped it down, because he did pee a little. I mean, why lie? We all do it. And then left the restaurant. My dad started crying. And he said, Shannon, you're the only reason I'm a little reason I'm a little.

life. You're the only reason I'm alive. Just, I live to see you. I live to see you. So how dare you throw that out? Then he burped and a little bit of blue cheese olive got stuck in my ear, which was really cute. I love hanging out with my dad. What were we talking about? Commercials. Here comes one right now. We're talking about how your dad has alcoholism. Timber. She does not stop. I was the was crying. He was crying. He was saying, if it weren't for you, Shannon Storm's Bador, I would die. I would be dead.

And I live for you. You are my daughter. And every day I wake up, just for you. No, Alfredo. Oh, yeah. That was a serious moment. That basically now you're dead to suicide and alcoholic. That's a good one. It's a good one. But I'm sorry, okay?

I wasn't trying to single you dad out. It wasn't my place to say that at the moment. I should have just been like, alcoholism runs in your family. and that's why you run with alcoholism. Stupid running, bitch! I should have just, like, face swapped your face on the little boy in the commercial from the 80s that way, and have you saying, I learned it from watching you, Dad.

Shama's like, absolutely not. Absolute yes, so, right? Absolute, yes. I was yes, absolute. We are so deranged. So Andy is like, thank you, Eddie. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, Eddie.

Oh, no, Eddie is in the bathroom right now. So Andy is... Okay, well, Jen, Whitney, from the factory of cheesecake, said, do you feel Tamara would have less problems with the group if she took accountability for her actions? Yeah, so the night that we sat outside, guys, remember when we sat outside? No, okay.

Well, the night that we sat outside and we're cake, that's the cake decorating party. I remember, I looked at you and I said, you're in therapy. When do you look in the mirror and say, fuck, it might be me. Never? Well, that's you. When do you do it?

Why don't do that? It's not about me. But I'll say you one thing. I love therapy. I can't wait to go to lunch. I'm going to go to lunch therapy. I'm going to have lunch, therapy. I'm going to have my sandwiches to therapy because I love therapy so much.

Shut up this. No, but like, don't you realize, like there's patterns that have to change. Like, behaviors have to change. Yeah, I know. That's why I'm in therapy. Okay, but like, has your therapy enlightened you to anything that you came today feeling like you want to apologize for? Can we see some evidence of the therapy working? Yeah, yeah.

You want me to apologize for something? Okay. My plan is to say calm and apologize and take accountability and try to me forward with everybody. It's therapy therapy. It's all my dad's fine. My alcoholic dance file. Hey, wait a minute. I'm sorry.

That was sharing this therapy. Yeah, I apologize for something. I don't know what it is yet. I don't know what it is yet. Matthew at some point. That's a good plan. I like that plan. And by the way, everyone, I had

a salmon sperm facial to prepare for today. Wow. A salmon sperm facial. You know what? I won't even let my own husband come all over my face. What would I let a salmon? No, you don't do it for Emily. I was the one who set up the joke.

All right. Well, we're back. And, uh, okay, from covert communications with Emily's ex-nanny to nefarious kinks with bloggers, Katie was accused of stirring a pot of deception this season. But a failed polygraph test and a secret recording had those women dropping her faster than Shannon bailed on her grilled cheese. Oh, Shannon, bailing on a grilled cheese, which we know you would never, ever want to do in your life. life. Am I right, Shannon? Why are you crying, Shannon? Why you suddenly clustering yourself and leave no grilled cheese behind? And so the fact that I would do that, I'm just so sorry. I'm so sorry. And your dad had problems leaving grilled cheese behind too, right? Why do not bring my father into this. His grill cheese behavior is not up for public discussion. So now we see clips and a flashback to a headline. Emily Simpson's former babysitter speaks out saying Emily's kids know everything. and hated Heather Dubrow. Shannon's like, oh, Emily's ex-nanny came forward.

Yeah, reached out to me, and I was pissed. You talk about my custody and then something that was extreme. Oh, no. So Emily is basically saying, listen, you know, you were talking about my custody and something that was extremely painful to me. And then Emily's saying, that's not an excuse, Katie. Don't bring my kids into it. She didn't.

She said that she heard that you don't like Heather through your kids. She didn't call your kids fat or ugly or anything else. Stop saying that she trash talk to your kids. She didn't. You trash talk children when you were trash talking her as a mother. You are horrible. And the fact that they can even compare these two things and make them seem okay. And Emily's still in the right.

Emily was so dead wrong for that whole thing. She's disgusting. Yeah, she was dead wrong. And I do kind of wish Andy had actually asked Katie some more questions about this nanny situation because I just, I don't. don't really think it's like the worst infraction in the world. I don't think it's great. Like the nanny calls up, Katie should not have engaged with this nanny at all. But like, Emily treated it as if Katie like told the nanny, like scripted all these things for the nanny to say and yada, yada, yada. And I just think it's so overwrought. And it just does not

pale to what what Emily did last year, which she brought up this incredibly painful facet of Katie's life and put it on display that like her kids have to listen to and deal with. And this this stuff, like a nanny goes on to a podcast. Who cares? The only one who made it a big deal. The only one is Emily. Because none of us were like, oh, my God, let's tune in to hear what Emily Simpson's nanny has to say. Literally, the least intriguing headline for any podcast would be, like, exclusive.

Emily Simpson's nanny is on the show today. Like, no one cares about that shit. And Emily made it a thing, not Katie. Yeah. And so then we see a flashback to a scene with Kiki Monique. And Kiki's saying, Oh, yeah. Well, she said that you came in and said, is that an Asian designer and playing, I guess it was meant to be sounding racist. And Gina being like, well, I want to celebrate the fact that Katie wanted to come into this group. And then she wanted to bring her culture and she just didn't do any of that. Whatever, you ignoramus, that's not the way to do it. Gina. Gina's also the asshole in this. All of this is how Katie's an asshole. But these are other people being asshole. Yeah, it's not up to you, Gina, to police the way Katie wants to celebrate, or the timeline with which Katie wants to celebrate.

Yeah, being like, oh, really? You're supporting Asians. Is that an Asian designer? Yeah, it's fucking ignorant. Yeah. And he's like, okay, well, Katie, what's it like watching that? She's like, it's not fun. It's pretty hurtful to watch, yeah.

All right. Well, how surprised were you by the viewer response after the lie detector episode aired because it really felt to me like the viewers really rallied around you? Tamara, why are you twitching? and also Emily, you seem to be foaming at the mouth every time I say the viewers rallied around Katie. It's not fair! It's not fair! Well, I'm shocked and I'm very pleasantly surprised

by how much love I'm getting. Yeah. Shannon, you appear to have refollowed Katie. Oh, I never stopped. I never stopped following Katie. I never unfollowed her. I just was hoping she would leave grilled cheese hints somewhere in there.

Missing. Hopefully she would see my sign that was up in all the ballrooms all over. Orange County. grilled cheese. So Katie's like, and he's like, well, you guys in the better place now? She's like, well, we haven't spoken. No, absolutely. We have not spoken until I get my grilled cheese back.

So, well, when you describe what happened, I mean, we all know you recorded her at the promo shots, but then you just keep making it like you just send a voice to note to Matt, but you obviously played it for Alexis. I did not. I'm sorry. I played for Lexus. I'm sorry. I think she's also entitled to play it for a lot. It's messy. But like Shannon having a full on crazy meltdown, like, of course you got to play it. I mean, what it does do is like it's disingenuous knowing that that's Shannon's huge like enemy. So that's shitty. But they really are acting like this is like a total violation of privacy. I think they're they're prosecuting a case of like this is duplicitous. This is a this is a violation of privacy. This is as bad. is opening someone else's mail.

And I think that the actual act of playing this crazy voice note of Shannon Bador having a meltdown, like, let's all be honest. Let's all be honest with ourselves. If we have that voice note, we know we're going to play it for some people. But it is shitty that she played it for Shannon's arch enemy when she's also so happy that Shannon's being her friend. So that's shitty. But I think the actual playing of the voice note, like, I just don't think it's like a couple

things. For one thing, I 100% believe that Katie taped this and played it for Alexis. I 100% believe it. Yes. But again on this show, and I do think that's shitty also. But, you know, like you said, what you said is what you said, and I agree with it. But also, Shannon screamed it. This was all in public, was she did it.

So would it be different if Katie just said, oh, my God, Shannon had a huge meltdown. It was so embarrassing. Would she still get in trouble or was it the active tape recording? Also, Shannon has recorded people multiple times. It's not only the one that she cops to right now. But she also was recording, Kelly having a breakdown in Ireland and other times. Like, we've seen Shannon doing it before. So they're not really the ones to be...

What's that? I think that was Heather who actually recorded that one to just... It was? Just to be fair. But I think so. Okay, then we've seen them recording other people. So to be getting all upset. And also, this is another thing of everybody getting mad of the wrong part.

Like, why are we not getting mad that Shannon is making production weight and having all of this time and having another diva fit, which she's had a million of them on camera. So we've seen her doing this. We know exactly what this woman's talking about. Why isn't it about Shannon having a fit and somebody else standing up to Shannon having a fit? Yeah, I think, like I do understand why Shannon is up. I'm not saying Shannon shouldn't be upset. Like, you know, you like to think that when you're with your friends, your friends are not secretly recording you, you know, and like recording you being silly than playing it for someone else. Like, 100%. I get that. Like that's, that is not crazy to me. But the, I don't know, I also think that like Shannon was having a total,

a total crazy meltdown. And I don't know, I think like as long as it has been recorded, like, you know, I sort of understand the messy impulse to be like, look at this. It's like watch, it's like any amount, this is happening all over society right now. And someone has a meltdown a store or someone records them and then you play it for friends. We put it on social media. And so I guess it doesn't, I guess I'm sort of, I guess I might be contradicting myself here a little bit because I do agree that like you don't want someone in your friend group recording you when you're not aware and being messy with it. But then I guess at the same time, I guess more like me as a fan, I can imagine seeing like a real housewife being crazy in public and being like, oh my God, I saw Shyamador being crazy. You've got to see what this is. So now I think I'm actually walking back what I said.

I don't know. I don't know people. I apologize. This is probably incredibly frustrating. Here, I'll make it easy. I'll make it easy. What Katie did was clearly wrong. But what everybody else does all the time is also clearly wrong. And Katie is being unfairly dogpiled on for this when they've all done it. Yeah, I think that's what it is. I think that's what it is. I think it's more, I think maybe thank you for for clarifying my thoughts. I think it's really that the punishment in this situation just does not meet. Yeah, it doesn't fit the crime, especially when Shannon was in fact acting like an asshole. So, Andy is like, well, she went on social media and said that she did hear the recording. This is Alexis.

And Katie's like, well, then I want her to tell me what Shannon says. If she's heard the recording, then I want to know what she says. We'll test her. And Andy goes, let's wait it. And Kitty goes, no. And he goes, no, I know. I'm just kidding. Well, you say, no, well, I want to finish this.

You say I was hours late and that I caused a whole scene, did you? Well, yeah, your glam team had to change your hair because they didn't have enough time to glue in a straw that they normally glue in because you were so late. Haven't you ever filmed people without their knowledge, Shannon? Okay, okay, well, we're just going to drop it, okay? Because you're just going to go around this. No, okay, therapy. This is therapy for you now.

Okay, well, you're going to hurt somebody, so I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to talk about this, Shannon. I mean, Tamara. Wasn't somebody here? No, it's Vicki. She goes, oh, oh, okay, okay, okay. You know what? You know what?

Vicki is going to be very upset with you. When I was staying there, there was a huge argument with her husband, and I just wanted to make sure everything was okay. So, instead of going in there and saying, is everything okay, I recorded it on my phone and sent it to Tamara. And that's all that I did. I was just trying to help. All right. Well, Emily, Marco in Polo said, hey, you seem to be a fierce defender of your family. did you go into defense mode on Katie when she was going after her family at the beginning

of the year? Is that why? Is this the reason that you, do you want to hang your crazy behavior on this sanctimonious hangar here? Of course. It was such a level of deceit. It was an evaded of privacy. It does all sew things that are just outside of the realm of anything I've ever

had to deal with before. Oh, please. She said your kid said you didn't like Heather. For Christ's sake, you're making it sound like the woman like dressed your children up like you and Shane and sent them into a bank to steal all of your money. I mean, lady, give me a break. When I got information about someone, I just screenshot and show it to Gina and we have a good laugh. Well, yeah. And then Gina brings it up on camera to ruin that person. And then

you come tag team along with Gina to ruin that person. So I'm glad you're admitting it. So basically you're saying when someone else that, when you do it, it's okay. Yeah. Like, it's not that different from like Shannon's having a meltdown. I mean, okay, so Shannon has this meltdown. Katie records it because she sends it, she sends it to Matt to be like, oh my God, this fuck, my co-worker. And I think we're all allowed to bitch about our coworkers, except I would never bitch about you, Ronnie. But you're all, generally, you know, we're all allowed to, you have to vent about your workplace, right? She, she bitches to Matt. So she has this recording. She plays it for Alexis. So yes, shitty for her to do it. But I also think she's totally allowed,

she's totally allowed to record something to share with her husband and then they can laugh about it and basically Emily is saying the same thing here oh I saw this crazy thing and we are messy and we joke about it behind people's backs and like but we're entitled to it and they are

by the way they are like you see something you get screenshot like because these people aren't actually generally friends and so like you are allowed to do that but like why are you allowed to take a screenshot of someone's like terrible past

and have like a little laugh about it and Katie can't also have a laugh over a piece of content. Because she's saying she's not creating the content. She's just laughing at content that's already out there. But yeah, she's a total hypocrite. Like, she's like, we do shit all the time and laugh with our friends, but no one else is allowed to.

So Katie's like, yeah, well, what about what you did at the reunion to me, bringing up all the stuff about my custody? And she goes, okay, well, let me differentiate. First of all, I apologize for bringing it up in the manner that I did because I understand it looked like I was bringing up something about your children, but it wasn't about your children. Right. And the thing she said about you wasn't about your children either.

It was what your children said about you. Do you see, Emily, you're like arguing against yourself here. I'm only such a fucking hypocrite. I can't even watch, well, obviously, I can't watch her because I am watching it. But God. Giddy is like, but you said I heard you lost physical and legal custody. She's like, what you said was literally about my children. It's like, it's about like their, it's about their family dynamic.

It's about, it's probably about stuff that she was trying to shield her children from whereas the nanny thing is nothing that is is has to be shielded from the children you know like this is it was i think more damaging for katie what emily did and she goes i saw an article oh yeah here's a flashback article article article back to present being in my late 20 is having no money and nowhere to go that was the only decision i could make and you thought it was going to be fun to like oh look katie you lost physical custody no i didn't think it was going to be fun i just thought it would be a really good reunion moment that would get me another season on the show. Yeah, I didn't think it was going to be fun, okay?

I mean, it was fun, but I didn't think it was going to be fun. And she's like, then, why would you bring it up? And Jen's like, well, she just felt like there were inconsistencies in it, Katie, okay? Well, I thought your backstory wasn't consistent, you know? She goes, okay, so I need to explain myself from 12 years ago. I mean, yes, because you're on Orange County, and we're going back 15. So yes, I guess so. And Emily is like, well, but you use content creators, podcasters, journalists, whatever you want to call them to fight,

your battles and you're allowed to be that pissed Katie that's fine but at least have the guts to bring it up to me to my face says the woman who like waited till the reunion to bring up the backstory about Katie's you know like whatever she went through in Georgia Katie's like well and I truly apologize for how I handled it why is Katie apologizing this is making me fucking crazy okay and by the way did you see the article that came out yesterday about Emily fucking hypocrite blogger this is from reality blur blogger leaks Emily Simpson's alleged DMs and claims Emily asked them to post negative content about this. So this is from someone named Bravo Boo.

And there is screenshot. She came with receipts. And Emily basically sent her a DM because who made this video? Let me see. Okay. Here's the DM from Emily. Would you believe her loser agent publicist posted shitty things about me after saying things? By the way, this is my opinion and my perspective, which I,

allowed to have when people are asking questions and that's what being a housewife is all about sharing your opinion and your perspective and being real and authentic about it oh god i just open instagram and um oh authentic about it and you can choose not to agree or disagree but this is exactly how i feel and then this is a clip i'm trying to make this bigger um her agent posted this how completely unprofessional and the blogger saying oh my god no fucking way um i am reposting it but I will not say I got it from you. That's so low. Alexis is so insecure. It reeks of her. It reeks off of her. And this stuff shows it even more. I'm busy, but I will make a post about the publicist because I really am writing hard for Shannon right now.

So she's like, I'm busy fighting Shannon's battles as a blogger. But I will get back to you in just a moment about fighting your battles. And so Emily says, don't feel obligated. I just wanted to share because I was so grossed out by it. And then the Bravo boo says, I'm not feeling obligated at all. But you're messaging bloggers with shit that you want them to put out and waiting until they put it out. And said blogger is too busy putting out shit for Shannon right now. So she's going to have to get to you after. Okay. And I love that the Bravo boo is shameless.

She's just like, yeah, that's what I was doing. And I was also writing hard for Shannon. So here's the proof, everybody. eating it up. But anyway, the point of this is that Emily is, as we all know, a fucking hypocrite. And you think the only person she's writing is Bravo, boo? Doubtful.

Yeah. Doubtful. So, Jen is like, and he's like, okay, well, why did you say Katie was a con artist between seasons, Jen? Was it because you knew she was talking to people behind everyone's backs? Is that why? I'll tell you, Andy, thank you so much for asking me this. Things were just, like, not adding up.

But to be fair, nothing. Yeah, I was going to say, what else is new, Jen? How they were. This is you. Could you imagine Jen getting the bill and trying to figure out the tip at the end? It's like, no one's asking you. What happened to the middle part of the Cheerios? Are they just in some factory somewhere?

How are these not called Sadios when they've been hollowed out like that? Sadios. Sadios. Why are they called sadios? Thank you, Ryan. Somewhere in Beverly Hills. America. Okay, well, yeah, things weren't adding up.

Okay, and I've asked, you know, you've asked me this a million times, Katie, and I don't remember telling Gina that, you know, you were a con artist. So I can't sit here today and say that. Jen never remembers anything. That's always Jen's thing. Like, what? What did I? I never remember.

I don't remember. So Katie's like, Gina, did she say that? And she goes, whoa, it was something to the effect of. Like, I'm just, I'm like, I'm sitting over here. Like, is this girl like a con artist? And then Ryan's like, no, she's just new. And that's how I remember it. Like, I don't remember because I was schlepping.

And schlepping feels so God. I was schlepping a sign that just said, just sold for a studio apartment in a senior living facility. So Jen is like, she's like, well, for me, it's just like, you know I have so many conversations, but I was having weird feelings about stories that you were telling me. Okay, well, we got a lot of questions about the lie detector test, Katie. You told us weekly that you felt it was one person who refused to film with you and then went on to say, I think it came from one person who maybe set me up for something and maybe other people believe something untrue about me. She's like, yeah. Well, who was that person? Emily, duh, she's like, duh, Emily, of course.

She'll go, I love that power. She goes, well, I was set up. She goes, I don't need a lie detector to know that you're lying, Katie. Dun, done, done. And Emily's like, Katie said on camera, I'll even take a lie detector test. I'm like, you weren't even in that. You weren't there. You weren't there.

You weren't even fucking there. And then we see Katie saying, I'm not talking about stories with bloggers. And Gretchen's saying, okay, listen, I believe you. She's like, well, I'll take a lie detector test. So then Emily's like, yeah, that's where it came from, okay? It wasn't even my idea. It was Gina's idea. And then I was like, let's have a lie detector test.

Because then, look, I know they're 86% accurate and they're not admissible in court, et cetera, et cetera. And Tamara's like, oh, yeah, I had a few punch you about how long you can pass it. Katie told me that. Katie told me that. Well, Katie failed it, so I don't think it worked. She failed on every question. Yeah, she really, yeah, that was, that was a tough time. So then, Katie's like, yeah, she told me that.

And he goes, okay, well, y'all came up with the questions, I might add. Well, that was my only input in this. That was my only input. The audience should stop being mad at me. It wasn't even my plan. I just said to everyone, bring up the, make up your own questions. That's my only input. Well, production found the lie detector people because there's only a few that will go on camera.

And even though they're on camera, they still won't cut their bangs. is a big issue, a lot of back and forth on that one. Well, I'm sitting here telling you, I had no way to set you up because what am I going to do? Pull them outside? Like, what am I going to do? Pull them aside and say, you better do this. They would have caught it on camera. You could have DMed them. You could have emailed them. You could have talked to them. I mean, Lady with the Bangs was sure pretty hard on your side, as I recall. I mean, I don't know any other professional light detector people, quote unquote who when someone leaves goes oh yeah she's full of shit bangs was totally on your side

yeah give me a break yeah and katy even says that she goes they you know they did have guys say like we've got her there's a plan okay okay that was katy okay all that was katy was that it was like a lie detect test about to happen and then they said oh my god we got her because they were also like i don't know if you know this but they were trying really hot to give julia roberts a lie detected test and she was resisting and then she finds it okay I'll take a lie detector test and then they landed the account and so she was like we got her Katie come on like it makes total sense and I'm like it's like it wasn't my idea you know I don't need one to know you're lying I already knew you were lying

and she was like well I wasn't expecting you to fail every question honestly but you and that I was but first of all if you're going to set somebody up like everyone knows if you're going to cheat on the test you got to get one or two wrong but you got like all of them wrong I don't think cheating goes that. Gina's a moron. Like, I can't even, I'm not even going to parse what Gina's saying. She's useless.

Katie, there seems to be a feeling in the group that you were tougher behind everyone's back than a group of events. Saint from Lewis says, why don't you just say to the girls what you say in your confessions? And she goes, oh, I should. I should. Yeah, a lot of people should. A lot of people in here.

I'm just going to squint at him right now. Shannon. What does that even mean? Oh, why do you think I'm talking about you, I believe. Well, I don't think you're talking about me because I say things. So who are you talking about? You say a lot of things in your confessions about me. Like, I was like, oh, but I'm back. I look at the case. It's like, wow. Yeah, but I don't trust you. That's what I said. No, you said that went to my face. Okay, what else then? Well, you make, you make, you make, you make,

you make, you make, you make, you make, you make, you know, saying something to someone's face occasionally doesn't mean it's okay to be an absolute asshole to your friends behind their back either. But she's like, oh, sorry, go ahead, Ben. Obviously, Shannon tries to jump and she goes, you do do that, Tamara, you do. And Tamara's like, Shannon, be quiet.

No, I was talking to you. Just be quiet. Just be quiet. No, I won't. I will not be quiet. Just sit on the end and be quiet. Sit on the last piece. Sit on a music seat.

I'm on a show where everyone expresses their opinions. I'm talking to Emily. No, you mix my comments. You do it. You do it. Shut up. That's therapy speech. Shut up.

No, I just felt like... Every time, every time Tamara yells at Shannon, Shannon, like, looks to, like, there's some sort of like invisible ref that we're not saying offstage. She was, Shannon just looks over to her left. She's like, what, what? Cameraman. Do you see this cameraman?

Do you see this cameraman? Yeah, you get out of here. You're stupid. You're stupid and you sit in the last seat, okay? Yeah, that's right, Eddie. That's right Who's that? Was that Shannon's guy?

Um, no, I just tried to get into my car and leave And it didn't work out so well, sorry Yeah, you know what, but Emily, my feelings get hurt a lot You know what? I talk about it in therapy, which I mean every five minutes, okay? And I don't know if you're trying to be funny or what? She goes, what? What do you mean? Well, you know, just like, I've never had any girlfriends

That I'm not a girl's girl. Well, okay, well, there was a lot of conversations I had with Gretchen And I was trying to explain, Maybe she's never had girlfriends. Maybe she's not a girl's girl. I mean, I don't know. I mean, if that hurt your feelings, I apologize for you.

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