Watch What Crappens - #3069 RHOC S19E18 Part Two: Behind the Candelabra

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

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Gretcher's, my bad, Gretcher's! Gina, given that you forgave Katie at the hot pot, how hurtful was it hearing from Kiki Monique that Katie told her that she perceived you to be making racist comments while Emily was putting eggs in her purse and trying to be hilarious while dissing an entire country's food choices. Well, I would like to address this. obviously you can understand how that sounds horrifying to me like with that sad now me watching back and seeing like that whatever I said

which was totally not meant to be malicious in any way shape of form but seeing that that triggered a trauma in you from your peers like I'm not in the business of triggering trauma like I'm not here to trigger trauma who triggered trauma I'm in the business of selling one bedrooms to 75 year olds okay I love when she kept saying triggered trauma I was cracking up. I'm not here to trigger trauma, okay? And if that's what I did in that moment,

then, like, I understand that. And I'm sorry for that. No, it's not triggering a trauma. What you said was racially fucked up. Who says that to somebody? And she did wear Asian designers. And I don't know why anybody's listening to Gina. Like, Gina would know where any designers from besides T.J. Max's.

I think that, no, Gina, I have to say, I do appreciate because Gina has been doing a really good job of celebrating Asian designers. designers too because she's she in right is that the brand that she's been wearing a lot i really support 10 year olds being forced into labor to glue clothes together so i'm really there i'm on the forefront well i appreciate that it didn't trigger a trauma it just seemed inappropriate to say at the time and i never called you the r word and i said well you should because i'm not you know like that wouldn't be a very nice thing to say you shouldn't say that about disabled people know the other r word Sorry.

No, no, you can't say that, Gina. Well, isn't that what you said? You can say real estate. That what you said you, I wasn't calling you. No, no. I said I wasn't calling you the R word. Oh, okay. I don't know what that is, but thank you.

You know, I just said it had undertones that made it feel R. She's like, oh, Republican, don't say that. I can get canceled for that. Rotund? No, we're not going to fat shame. Rosoli and I was like. I love that show. You can call me in that word.

Routini. Yeah, I love that position. Okay, yeah, I accept that. And I'm like, I really wish instead of sitting down with Kikimony, you would have sat down with me. And she's like, yeah, but to your point, why would she sit down with you? You were having a fight with her at the time and you were making shitty comments behind her back. Why does she need to sit down with you about it? Saying something later, why aren't you sitting down with all the people you, you, you

sit and giggle of their screenshots of gossip with with Emily. Why aren't you the one about, you know, shut up, Gina. Yeah, why aren't you a pop, like, all this talk about, like, I wish you would have come and talked, you know, just said it to my face, basically, when she's, like you said, just doing all this stuff behind people's backs. So, Katie is like, yeah, but to your point, we were trying to do better. And I told her, I said, you know, I don't think Gina's a bad person, but these times made me feel that way.

And her and I were bonding over being people of color in this space because it's predominantly not people of color, right? and to be the first Asian on Orange County in 18 years. It means a lot to me. That's my subtle way of saying, thank you for all you white ladies for running off the one piece of diversity that comes across the stage in years and years and years.

Okay, well, my intention was not to trigger trauma. And, like, you know, even if I trigger trauma, like, I didn't mean to run you off because of your race. Like, I meant to run you off because of your personality. So, like, I hope that that suffices. And she's like, thank you. Thank you, Katie. Okay.

Hey, does anyone else want to apologize to Katie? And everyone's just silent. And so Katie's like, well, I mean, if you guys need any ideas, I think being called as evil as Alexis could get an apology. And so I was like, well, I was going to say earlier, but when Bravo came to me, when Bravo Social came to me and said, is there anything that you regret from this season? And I said, I was so hurt by the thought that you would betray me that I wasn't happy with what I said after you betrayed me. But so, you know, what came first, the chicken or the egg? I don't know. Either way, I will have both for breakfast tomorrow.

Thank you. So Andy said, Andy is like, Katie, is there a place to move forward with some of the people in this group? I hope so. All right. Well, I do too. Okay. And so then, Gina's like, oh, my God, this is like the stupidest thing I've ever won. I swear.

I'm like, guess what? I'm going to say, no, it's not the stupidest because we've seen a lot of things on you, Gina. He's seen a lot of looks. But it's not great. You're correct. You're correct. It's not great. Every time I look at you, I'm like,

she has to be uncomfortable. It's like the stupidest choice I've ever made. I am sweating. Is no one hot in here? Is no one menopausal? Whoa. Whoa. Double Alfredo.

That was a good one. Write that one down. It's going into one woman's show. You're the one who's always freezing. What's going on here? Okay, so whatever. So now we go to Gretchen. Dun, don't, don.

So she's in her trailer, and she's not allowing Slade to come. And she's saying he's going to be supportive at home. And then back on the couches, Shannon is like, oh, my God, I hate this. There's a side view of my tree trunk over here. So back to Gretchen. She's like, I'm excited about clearing on all that be asked that kiddie has spent. And the glam is like, what she's saying? Yeah, she's saying that I told her that Tamara drugged me, which is not true.

I never said that. I did say it. I never said it. Maybe I did, but I didn't when I didn't, but that happened. But it didn't happen. Everybody needs to understand, not understand it. Because I'm telling the truth not. It's opposite day.

In 19 seasons of Orange County, we've seen many real housewives. kids grow up before our eyes, even if their mom somehow never age a day. Ha ha ha. And while this group doesn't always agree on everything, they all share one characteristic in common. Everyone here is a loving and devoted mom. Watch. Go ahead. Sorry.

I just, no, I'm just, Orange County kids are real special. We've had 19 years of watching these kids grow up, different kids grew up. And like, actually this current batch is doing pretty well, I would say overall, but I have to say the Orange County track record has been pretty rough. It's been bad. It's been rough when it comes to the trajectory. It hasn't been great. And basically, guys, I'm going to pretend this is a segment about everybody's kids,

but I'm really going to give about five minutes for Emily to come up with self-diagnoses for her son. Emily, let's do this. Excuse me, how could you not even include any content about Nikki? He works for the Altman group. This is a disgrace. He's 19 and a real. If you ever exclude my children again from the children growing up well montage, it will cost you a lot. Oh, I'm sorry, sirens are coming. I shouldn't have mentioned Orange County children. Okay. Sorry, that was my bad. Emily. Did Dawson pass out again?

Emily, go ahead. So she's like, oh my God, everything with Luca's so crazy. And then I was getting all these emails from people on DMs. And they were like, oh, okay, I'll post that thing about all the place. that thing about Katie later. Oh, sorry. That was wrong DM. Um, I was getting things from DMs and these moms were like, have you tested him for pandas? Wait a minute. That's amazing. I love pandas. Cut. Can, can a panda ever sit still? That's my question. Oh, my God. Pandas is so cute. I watched so many panda videos. Is it serious? Are you sure? Because like the other day I saw a panda, it was like trying to get into a tie and then like fell over. It was so cute. Oh, sorry. That was my person applauding you, Gina. Yeah, he's got something called Pandos because he had Strep Throw and this strap throw went to his brain and now I'm going to get lasers on his brain.

The brain's going to be shrunk by the lasers. This is actually crazy. This is crazy. I looked up Pandas after because I was like, what? Like some of this, I never know what to believe on Housewives, you know, I really never do. And especially when it comes to Emily because, you know, Emily has a lot of anti-vax, you know, MAGA stuff in her history. So I'm like, well, is this coming?

from a medical thought like what is this what is this and it's pretty crazy what it is i didn't find anything that said laser on the brain was a treatment for it honestly and i'm not even criticizing it because i don't know i'm just saying i didn't find that in my um amateur research into it uh but this is this is nuts so she's going to take her kid in and basically it caused brain swelling on him which is causing all these bizarre behaviors and the lasers are supposed to shrink your brain a little bit. Yeah, I don't know, I don't understand any of that, but like it's crazy. I mean, strep throat is like very scary because like you can have strep throat and then

a month later it like rears its ugly head again in some terrible other form. But I never heard about this and I don't doubt it at all. I know it's a real thing because I did I did look it up as well. But like that is a scary, that must be really, really scary. And I actually do think it was one of the upsides of her. You know, we there was a lot. We criticized a lot that she was using. as a storyline, but this is one of the upsides is that, like, that a lot of moms, like,

reached out to her and were like, you should check this out. Because if that really is one of the causes of his, like, some of his, like, unexpected behavior, like, it's good to get a grasp on that. But that was, this is really wild. So yeah, I guess we'll, we'll see how that pans out. We'll see how that pans out. All right. Pandas out. Yeah. Afraid him. So, so. So, yeah. So then. we talk about Dawson graduating at his boot camp ceremony. And she's like, well, you know, so many people worried about Dawson. And I also got messages, which is crazy.

I did get a lot of messages of pandas, though, which was very weird. So I'm not sure if that's the same thing. But I just want to reiterate, pandas are great. You know, and two plus two pandas, who loves six pandas? Me, I do. Okay, things are still not adding up. Just tell us about Dawson. He's kind of hot.

Okay, well, Dawson faints a lot. So, he was tired. Yeah. Well, you know, he was in boot camp. In the last three days, it's called The Crucible. It's this crazy thing where they have to, like, stay up all night and perform the entire play of the Crucible. And I just, I just, I think it was just like a lot for him. Arthur Miller is very intense.

And he just passed out. And I can understand that. But he did come back. Are you sure? That's what the crucible is? He did come back with the letter A tattooed on his chest, which I still don't really get. That's, I mean, that's, uh, that's, uh, that's the scholarly letter, uh, Jen. Oh, no.

sorry. What I meant to say was that he was going to be hanged and then it turned out that he got to escape, but then it turned out was all a dream. That's another piece of fiction from high school too. Well, basically what happened to Andy is he was on his way to boot camp and the plane crashed and then all of his friends were stuck out there and they had to take care of themselves and then they started to turn on each other until one got a conch shell and the nerd lost his glasses and became I'm a monster and killed everybody. I think that's Lord of the Flies. No, that's actually Ryan.

He just loves getting into those flies. Am I right? Anyone? Um, so Tamara, you mentioned that you and Sydney saw each other. She hates when you talk about her on television. Talk about it. So she's like, uh, she came to the house.

She was called Electric Sophia. Simon and I said, and I said, you better hug me. I'm going to call the police. on you, so she heard me. And then she said, you better not talk about this on television. And I said, I promise you I want to let me go. Tell me me God.

And then she lived. Sydney, Sydney, Sydney, Sydney, Sydney, Sydney, Sydney, Sydney's on TV right now. And I'm so sad about it. You know, Sydney is at home throwing remote controls at the TV. Like, leave me alone. Yeah, she's coming. She's like, she's like, she's like, car. She's like, Kylie Simon, she's coming around again.

Sandy's like, oh, good, that's great. Shannon, Stella, still visiting every country in the northern hemisphere? Yes, she is, and she also let me know that she wants to go into hospitality. I said, that's not a real career, and she said, you're not a real mother. I said, oh, don't you speak to me? I brought you into this world. I'll take you out of this world. And she said, try to reach me.

I'm in Europe now. And I said, okay, well, that's fine. But, you know, I am still your mother, and I'm alone right now. And I'm going through things. and she said, well, I'm never going to come back to America. So, yeah, things are great. I'm really happy with her choices. Yeah, she's going into hospitality.

So naturally, she's not coming back to America where there are no restaurants or hotels. So that's sad. Okay, Emily, Sam from Waterston's daughter has Sam Waterson's face. Isn't that crazy? Wants to know, how is your relationship with Shane going? Oh, God. Who cares?

What everyone wants to know? Oh, it's really good. Oh, it's really good. And all of our minds. How's it going with Shane? Well, you know, everyone, like, you know, I got from a lot of places that just like, Shane is just like solid and pragmatic and he's just an unemotion about things. And it's just like really helpful.

Yeah. And I loved your Wiveswap episode. Did you experience anything in your home with Shane? And are you doing more around the house? Does anyone care about this? Everyone agrees it was the worst wife swap episode of the season, right? Everyone, no? Well, the writing sir did, Andy.

I did learn that pigs make me more tolerable, so I might be shooting with one next season. Well, do you realize that Shane does a lot? Yeah, yeah. You know what? I think Shane like that other wife, too, Emily, you better watch out. Another thing that was on the internet today was the wife from that episode, the Snoddy New Jersey wife.

And she was doing one of those videos where you're putting on makeup and talking at the same time. Come get ready with me. She's like, yeah. Come get ready with me. Yeah, so, you know, I went on wife swap. And, you know, I'm kind of connected to the Gorgas because I was the lady that had that house. They remember when Joe Gorga said that he flipped that house, but then he used fake pictures, that was my house. And I had to go online and tell him to stop using my house.

And then he did. So that's my drama, the New York, the New Jersey ladies. Do you remember that? Yeah, I do. I love. Bravo. Kept this lady. because you know they were going to add her to Jersey just to have that for a storyline and didn't keep her but ended up just using her for wife swap instead yep exactly it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappence commercial

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What do you call that kind of top? It's almost, I don't know, I don't know what, but like the boning and, uh, it's like very much like, it's like sexy boudoir, Bordello. I forget what you, it's not, that's not like, is that a corset top? Is it a corset? Is it a, yeah, it's like kind of an ice skating, lingerie type thing. weird outfit, as usual. So she comes and she's not booed. So I'm immediately annoyed.

And everybody just jumps on her and starts kissing her ass and telling her how beautiful she looks. Of course, they're doing it in their way, you know, which is like, wow, Gretchen, you look so great. Andy says, you look like a pink Elsa. And Tamara's like, I was thinking, John Renee Vanay Vancey. Oh, I love the way you dress. It's just so poor person, but also maybe you could be on your way to work at a child's

birthday party. It's just so maybe it's a costume. Maybe it's an outfit. Maybe she's born with it. Maybe it's a fashion crime. I don't know. You know, one of those. Gosh, you look great, Gretcher's. You look great. Yeah. And by the way, I just want you to know that when I said she looked like she'd been preserved in formaldehyde, that's a compliment. Yeah, meaning you're beautiful, Gretchen. You're so beautiful. And you know what? The more transphobic things you love, the more beautiful. you become, you're beautiful. Yeah, so I was kind of grossed. And Gregson's like, yeah, I mean, listen, I could take it on the chin.

You know what I mean? It's made out of titanium. Okay, well, what have you been doing since we last saw you besides begging me to be back? You obviously have a beautiful daughter with Slate Face. And in terms of like work, what have you been doing? She's like, well, like, I do digital marketing and I'm considered an influencer. And so that's my main source of income for me. So use Gretchen code 20 to get a discount.

I said, oh, my God, you practice this and you still can't get it out right. Code Gretchen 20. Where do you get it? To get a discount. On what? Discounts. The discount on discounts? Yeah.

What's that discount on? So. Okay, great. So Andy's like, what is Slade doing? And she's like, oh, he's a consultant. And he also sits on the Liberace Foundation Board. So, see, we can't hate gay people. He loves Liberace.

And that's the gayest people there ever was, right? And Liberace was famously very comfortable with homosexuality. Yeah, super loved it. And Andy's like, Liberati, the pianist? No, Andy. Liberace the house painting. Yes, Liberace the pianist. And someone also posted today, and thank you social media for giving me so much today.

But they posted that Slate is listed as an unpaid board member. He's a volunteer board member of this Liberace Foundation in Vegas. What does the Liberace Foundation actually do? It supports children in the arts, like it gives grants to kids in the arts. And I actually know because I went there. I saw Liberace's house with Jackie Siegel. And so I met those people. And let me tell you, that is an incredible.

Nothing really. I mean, I don't know what I'm going to say, except I think that Slade hooked this up through friends of theirs, probably, if I had to guess. No, he literally said it. Gretchen literally says it. She's like, so, like, we are friends with Jonathan Warren, and he's like the console to, like, Monaco, and he runs the foundation of Las Vegas. And so he has Slade to be on that board. Yeah. What?

Who is saying, who's saying Slade Smiley should be on the Liberation Board? I'm unpaid and is volunteered. So he's doing nothing, is what you're saying. He's doing nothing. Wow, all right. Well, we had a bitter feud 16 years and counting, and Tamara and Gretcher's reintroduce themselves to each other and hopes they could view each other in a better light.

Unfortunately, Bravo won't spring for better lights, so everybody looks just as crazy. Okay. Let's check out some flashbacks. So we see some flashbacks of all of this stuff. And then we go, okay. Hey, Tamara, Boob's from RASQ wants to know how can you pretend that bringing Joe to LaRosa to two events wasn't an intentional dig at Gratchew? And she's like, well, it wasn't a dick at Gratchin.

Joe is one of my friends who I like to bring around because she pieces off Gretchen. And Gretchen's like, yeah, but do you think that, like, it's interesting that, like, out of all the people that she could have picked a bring, she brought you out. But, I mean, I guess I don't expect anything else, anything less. Never! No, no. Stop saying however at the end of the time. It doesn't work that way. I'm not here to serve you. I didn't say you weren't. So, Gretchen, how are you blaming Chammar for Slade not having a job for nearly two decades? She's like, if it came across that way, then I'm sorry. No, it didn't come across that way. It's what you said, Christend. Well, what I was trying to say is that like being on the public domain at such a level like that, it can cause harm to someone.

life. No, you didn't say that. You said that everything Tamara did made it impossible for him to get work. That's what he said. Let me tell you. Let me tell you something. He is like a white, straight Christian man. He will like if he's, if he has a shred of competency, people are going to let him like have another shot and give him jobs. His job is mooching off of Gretchen. That's what his job is. He can get a job. Okay. He has like a lot of. privilege and he like we've seen it before cancel culture only goes really so far it's not actually really a real thing people all everyone rebounds from cancel culture he is he's not canceled from tamra he is canceled from either laziness or his own ineptitude that's he's canceling himself

because he doesn't want to have money to have to pay that child support back and we all fucking know it so you can say whatever you want to but he's not making money on purpose and he's working working quote unquote for you holding that camera so you guys don't have to pay the child support which is also while you're not married why you're not married to him so they can't start garnishing your ass okay gretches so um and i like tamera's response because she's like oh yeah but him getting arrested didn't affect him try to get a job here what did what did sleigh get arrested for was it child support you got he actually got arrested over that i think i'll look it up while you while you do the rest what no see everything that's out there that's why i get a job ron

So, Tam, he was arrested in 2009 on a civil contempt warning for failing to pay child support. Yeah. Oh, okay. So Gretchen, uh, chase from Salt Lake City is crazy on a yacht. Sorry, Christina Applegate wants to know how does Slade. What do you think of that whole thing? Everybody's like, oh, my God. So for those of you who didn't see that, Christina Applegate came out with a tweet and was like,

oh, how dare the ladies of Salt Lake City, not respect. the staff of this boat. That is disgusting. And I've watched a lot of this in my life. And people are like, oh my God, queen, I'm gone. I was kind of like, come on Karen, this is Salt Lake City ladies on Below Deck. They're doing their job. Let them work. Please back away. I don't need your morals here, Christina Applegate. You know who doesn't respect the hard work of the staff on Below Deck is the staff of Below Deck? They're the ones who have like, well, Daisy is trying her best but meaning that like daisy had to put up with gary for like four years and everyone's had to deal with so much bullshit just internally with all the fucked up power structures there that like the salt like

the women on cell like are the least of anyone's concerns on that yeah call the police you complaining about what kind of bravo fan complains that salt lake city ladies are too crazy on below deck oh no this is this this this is like literally a gift to below deck because there's so many real house watch us who like refused to watch below deck and this is bravo's way of being like you should watch this other franchise that we have this other blockbuster franchise that's really good so this if anything she should be appreciative of this great exposure that the brand is getting yeah and if anybody needs to be criticized it's the staff for trying to interrupt fights to do stupid things like serve a stupid monster head cake put it down on the table and walk away like now is

not the time for you to come have your captain sitting down scene okay you either sit here and take the fight or you walk away which you did but you don't get both choices okay you're either in it or you're not in it. But this is not about you. This is about the Salt Lake City Housewives and they came to work and give us the best season of any show this year. So quiet Applegate. Quiet Applegate still love you, but quiet. Yeah, I love you in general. But on this one, you're wrong on this one. Take the L. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Take the L. So Andy's like, how does Slade contribute to the household? Um, well, what you guys didn't see on camera is I said when Slade goes to the grocery store, it goes to his account.

So, like, he can buy, like, mac and cheese. And that's, like, really helpful for both of us. Uh-huh. So if Slade doesn't have a job or make any money, what's in his account? Nothing. You have a joint account that's all your money. So if he goes to the store, he pays for it with your account. And if you go to the store, you pay for it with your account.

Stop trying to be slippery, Gretchen. You're not smart. Whatever your relationship is with Slade, it's absolutely your business. this. Oh, sure. And the only reason it was even a conversation is because we were talking about getting married. And you said you couldn't marry him because of financial reasons. And I said, that's hilarious. You don't even have three pennies to your name between both of you. So why even bother with that? That was never going to be on the table. I don't think we meant to say, who is buying the groceries? I think we meant to say, you get groceries?

How do either of you afford groceries? But that's neither here nor there. My question to you was more like, what is your favorite product? Canned salmon or canned okra? I just am so curious about this whole canning revolution. This is a little one. Someone check out Alfredo.

I think he fell over. And here we go. Another problem with this is that Heather's referencing a conversation they had in 2012, right? So we see a flashback to that where Gretchen's like, well, Sleen is trying to get caught up on death and trying to get the things resolved with in court. Child support. And she's like, okay, so you don't want to take that on in marriage. And she goes, yeah, I don't want to take it on. So that was when Gretchen had a moment of honesty 13 years ago and decided not to ever have another one after.

So we come back to the present. Which is, by the way, also a little shitty. you really think about it like initially i remember thinking like well i get that like he has to get a shit in order before i like get married but i also kind of feel like if you love someone you're like we're going to get through this together right like i'm going to help you get through this so that way we can start our life together not like okay you figure out your shit and then you can finally get married to me if that was a decent person there and they said look you have a contentious breakup with your ex you've got a child this child has cancer you have not paid a hundred and fifty

thousand dollars in child support to a cancer-ridden child. I'm going to help you pay this because I'm going to be part of your family now and we're going to take care of this and take care of this child who deserves your money at the very least. If he's not going to have your love or anything else, he's going to get your money and we're going to take care of this. They don't say, I'm not going to marry you because I don't want to be responsible for that mistake you made with that cancer kid. She's a wretched fucking human being. Thank you, Eddie. She is disgusting. So there are so many reasons to hate this lady I cannot believe they're sitting here acting like

Oh sorry we asked you about it, Gretcher, sorry So Heather's like Okay, then you got engaged And that's why we thought this was all fake Yeah, and not no Not one of us ever said that your relationship was fake, bitch No, it was about the proposal

Based on what you told me on camera And then we see that proposal, that crazy thing where she'd say, will you be, but you get buried to me? She's like, look. However, that was a very real moment for me to be there, even though the producers said that it was kind of a fake moment on a special that aired like six years ago. But getting engaged to the man that I loved after I said, I just been in the hospital and I was told he was going to die.

I just wanted him to show the man to how much I loved him, and that was what that was about. Okay, however. Really? Because I thought that it was because he wanted to get married on TV and have Bravo pay for your wedding. I guess kind of how it seemed. Yeah.

The boss of the show is like, Like, yeah, no, that's not true, Gretchen. Like, he's like, I know the inside scoop. Okay, you can't do this bullshit. Yeah. And she's like, no. And Heather just starts cracking up because Andy's so shady. And he goes, he's like, okay, so when do you think you'll be ready to be married?

When do you think you'll be ready to get married? She's like, well, I mean, I'm ready whenever. I just don't think it's something that we wake up every day talking about. We talk about Jesus and Christianity. And as we all know, getting married is not a really big deal part of that. They're going to get married whenever she's not going to be on the hook for that child support that they refuse to pay for the dead kid with cancer. That's when. So she's like, you have a child together.

That's the biggest commitment of all. And look how well he dealt with the last one. And Gretchen's like, I know. Yeah, exactly. Tamara's like, but in God's eyes, don't you think he should be married? God loves married people. Everybody knows it. I'll lend you to Terry.

I want to get back to you. She actually is married in God's eyes. Yeah, they had a ceremony. It was great. They had a full-on ceremony. I got this invited the last second also. It's kind of weird how that keeps it happening, but it's a beautiful ceremony I hear. Yeah, a few years ago, we actually got married, but with an ordained pastor.

And he's like, wow, you did? You're married? Yeah, but we didn't go to a courthouse and get people work, but we did have a ceremony, and Skyler was there, and it was so special. Hmm. Okay, well, Riley, from not came to me. Andy Burris' daughter, but secretly, yes I am. It's me. It's me. Says Gretchen, you've mentioned several times during what Heather's

sleepover, how Fireball gets you wild. Were you looking for liquid cards to bring up the rumor? No, I had no intent of bringing up the fact that Tamara had sex with Nelson and tried to sing a song with him, and then had sex again, and then sang while she was having sex, I never meant to bring that up. Well, this person who was involved in the affair, whose name rhymes with Shmelson, but we won't say out loud, vehemently denies the allegation and insists that it was a complete fabrication. I don't know if I'm a million, Sandy. Vemently.

Mm-mm. Strongly. Oh, strongly what? Denies. Strongly denied the allegations that he was ever inside Tamara. Okay. Look, this was not premeditated. Okay, it's not premeditated.

It was just girls being girls. You know, you take a bunch of people used to eating canned beans around a trash can of fire under freeway, and you give them something called charcutory. And just watch them go, Andy. They were drunk with the power. So, Tamara goes, bullshit was bringing the better to the Tamara. We know what, when I, when I, when I, I bought up. You just be quiet often, you just shut up.

Camerman. Shut up. Help me on you. A camera. Craft service for me. You should have to do this. Someone, lighting guy, lighting guy. Okay.

Shat your stupid mouth. You got to help me on this one. All I can hear is waddle, waddle, waddle. It's crazy. Well, shut up. Someone's got to help. Honestly. Okay, well, I'm going to talk.

No. I'm going to talk. Because this is part of the process, girl. Oh, no, let me finish this. Girl! Well, don't, you know what? I was very proud of the fact that I was young. and hip and said, girl.

And then you just tore right back in my face. I did not appreciate that. I don't know why she has such a hard on for me. Gretchen's like, it's so weird. So Tamara's like, Gretchen tried to bring the song out of Dickie's house. That's when she tried to bring it out. But not that she called and said, oh, it's Eddie Gay.

So she's saying that this has been trying, she's been trying to make this happen since 2017. And then we see a clip of Gretchen being with that gay in the terrible wig, who used to be Emily's friend. And remember when Tamara in the beginning, when Emily came on in the beginning, and Tamara was being mean to Emily, and Emily took Tamara on that walk, and she's like, why are you so mean to me? And Tamara's like, because you're friends with people who are terrible to me, like that gay in a terrible wig. And we see a shot of that gay. He's like, and so they were fighting over this gay.

This has been a very messy gay on Orange County. Yeah, some of the messiest gays we've seen have come from Orange County. So Gretchen's like, what was the conversation at that party in terms of God. Okay, so years ago, okay, okay, I want to move on. I want to move on. Okay, so Emily, this question is from you, Jonah, from a whale somewhere, said, why would you bring up the rumor to Tamara when Gretchen asked you not to? Oh, I've got a very clear answer that's going to make a lot of sense with a lot of logic.

I was really irritated by the fact that they had just been at the beach and they had had a conversation that they were both going to come back and they came back to the table holding hands. And they had agreed to a truce. Yeah. And it's just like, you know, I was really hopeful. And I was really, really hopeful. And that they were going to move forward. Like, so you destroyed it over, like, let's brush that shit under the rug, okay?

Like, let, like, why did you facilitate it falling apart? Because you, you felt they were being fake and this person who, you know, looks at headlines and laughs behind people's backs with Gina about it. Yeah. So she's like, oh, I was really hopeful they were moving forward. That's why I made sure they didn't move forward. Yeah, and I didn't say one word about question, not one word to make you the, not even one. She's like, okay, okay, can I talk to that? Okay, I agree with them on that.

And I want to apologize for you doing that. But I'm just telling you that that was what was that in the press. And, you know, that's a problem, Tamara, because you can say stuff that's in the press. But if I say stuff in the press, everybody else is like an asshole. Yeah, oh, okay, you always treated about someone else. with DJ because you're really turning things around on the turntable because that's what DJs do.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, Andy, or Tamara, sorry. Peewee from's Big Adventure wants to know why are you overacting about this rumor when it was from so long ago. Don't you also bring up old dirt on people? She goes,

oh yeah, name one. Name one free. Peewee from Big Adventure, whatever stupid game is. Say it. Name it. Um, well, uh, excuse me, but you did accuse Jen of having an affair, you may remember that. Two years ago, whatever. What, what, what? I can't even say anything, girl. I can't even say anything.

It was before therapy. Shut up, Shatling, stupid. Well, Tamar, you did bring up tonight that Shannon recorded Vicki. Yeah, because she's going after Katie when she's doing the same thing. That's a hypocrite. I'm allowed to bring that up. But you know what my intent was to make sure everyone's safe. Everyone is safe and sound on my camera.

Well, everybody was saying, said then why did you call me and tell me, who the hell would be with Vicky? She treats her boyfriend like shit. Why'd say that then? I did not say that, Tamara. I did not say that. I did not say that. Yeah, you did.

But you just got to prove the point of this question. Yeah, because it was two years ago. No, I understand. But the point of the question was you bring stuff up all the time from the past. Yeah, yeah. Well. And you just brought up two things right now. Yeah, well, it's because it's because I have.

Ratsy, shut up, everybody's shut out. And there's like, case in point, case in point. Anyone, case in point, I said, case in point, Alfredo, get, bro. The moment's already lost. Lost. And well, Tamara, you told, Sammy, shut out, dammit. No, but you said, shut up, Sammy, shut up, Sammy. No, camera, you said, you said, shit to cut you, not, don't show, don't you, should not be sent your Twitter, so hot, you never going to talk.

You, damn it. Well, I just, I can't even, I can't even get it. I can't even say, hey, okay, well, I'm trying to prove a point. You did a very good job proving it, Andy. Well, my point is, we're not the only ones that bring up stuff from the past. Well, I have something to say on this. Oh, shut up, Shannon. It's just such a goddamn mouth, you fucking monster from the Blue Lagoon.

Come back in there, kill brook, brook shills, or whatever. Get out of you, monster. I can't have a tamar a grudge over there. You know what? Don't let anybody else affect how you continue to do that. I know, but like, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it, bitch. Well, but like, when we were at your house for cake decorating, remember?

God, I love bringing up that night. You threw out again that I've had all these affairs. And then we went outside and you said, oh, God, I was mad and I just probably made it up. Yes, yes, you said you poked me and I was mad. Remember you said that? That was a good one, girlfriend. I didn't make it up. It was something I heard, though, but, you know, I should have never, I regret it saying it, okay?

Because the conversation we were having at the table was getting so heated. What else about in six? It's cheating on your husband's slag. I mean, it's... It's pure hypocrisy. That's what this is, everyone. Pure hypocrisy. Shit it.

Who do you think you are? Like honestly, I don't have to listen to anything she says. Anything, not a goddamn thing. Shut your goddamn fried chicken mouth. I can't even look at you without thinking of fried chicken. And you have to be quiet, Shannon. Why is Tamara allowed to just do this every time Shannon speaks? Why is nobody like, hey, other people get to talk to?

And you don't get to just yell, shut the fuck up every time someone speaks. What kind of therapy are you going to? This is crazy. Is there anybody working here? She said physical therapy. That's the problem. Well, you mean, I thought that by loosened up my hips, I would get better emotional responses. So, Emily, that's my story.

But didn't you have pictures at the cake party of her having some affair of Gretchen having an affair? And Shannon's like, but see, Tamara, you show up with evidence every single time. That was me in the flashback, by the way. I did a great job in that flashback. Yeah, because at that point, I'd had it with her. I'd had it. I'd had it. See, it's okay for me to bring things up from the past.

You just can't bring stuff up from the past. Yeah, basically, she's a hypocrite, just like the rest of you. So were these pictures, were these old pictures of Gretchen making out with that Jeff guy? Tamara. You got to love Tamara whipping out 15-year-old pictures at a cake party. So she's Tamara says she'd had it, so she's allowed to do it. And then Gretchen's like, yeah, but

just because you were mad about something from 15 years ago, you shouldn't have even brought it up 15 years ago. Like, that wasn't cool either. And so Tamara's just shoeing her off. She's like, get out of here, stupid. Just wave everybody off, Tamara. Oh, no, I'm just waiting you off stupid. You should have.

But I'm talking about 15 years ago, Tamara, when you made up all the lies about me back then. So now we're going back to the big, where it all started. This is where, well, actually, I started with. But now the big reunion. And Gretchen said, what was the reason then? Why did you bring things up then? And Tamara's like, well, I didn't make up any lies about you 15 years ago. Oh, sure you didn't.

It was the affair. It was the affair. Okay, yeah, yeah. Hold on. I'm going to press my lips and look myself a little bit. Me and Vicky both walked in at your juniper kios, and we saw you sitting there a bloop's lap. Make it out with him.

We saw it. We saw it. Oh, my God. You're such a fucking liar, Camille. You're a fucking liar. You're a fucking liar. You are. You're a piece of shit.

You're a piece of shut back. Okay, camera. You're a piece of shit. Liars. Dance for so long. For so long you've been coming after me for so long. It's like, this was a whole segment about how you've been coming after her for 15 years.

But, of course, she immediately turns out. It was like, you've been going to have to me this old time. And you've been going after my husband. And you've been going after me. He's been going after my kids. My mom can't even fuck a guy from Costco without you coming for somebody.

I don't talk about you never. Oh, okay, yeah. You don't talk about me ever. Sure, sure, sure. And it just ends on Katie going, this is insane. That brings us to the end of Reunion Pod 1. Real Housewives.

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