Watch What Crappens - #3078 Crappy Hour 11/17/25: BravoCon Breakdown With Two Judgey Girls

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

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This episode was brought to you by Virgin Voyages Well hello and welcome to Crapi hour This is Monday November November 17th. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Good. How are you? How's everything going today? It's going so well. It's like I feel like everything for the past four days was like a fever dream. Did any of that really happen? How are you feeling? Yes. We just got back from BravoCon, a four-day whirlwind through that fever dream. My God, But that was crazy.

We had a really good time. But of course, probably like everybody who came back today, we are wrecked, we are busted, I'm spent, I need rehab, I need therapy. I need therapy. It was a lot more. This time we were on a panel, we did the NextGen NYC panel, which was the final panel of the whole weekend. And it was fun, you know, it was cool talking to the kids and stuff like that and getting to do our first panel. But we also got to get a lot closer to a lot of the people on Bravo than I was expecting. We really didn't even have to go up to some of these people and say anything.

I was surprised how many of them listened to the show. And I think one of the things I heard the most this weekend was the phrase, why do you hate me? It was a lot of that. It was a lot of soothing nerves and then promising to still dis your ass tomorrow, which you knows what's going to happen because that's us, you know? But it was great. How did you feel about the whole thing? Oh, my God, I had the best time.

My first BravoCon, I didn't know what to expect. I didn't understand the lay of the land. It was just sort of like a whirlwind of Bravo stars. We also had our friends who were podcasters or content creators that were there. And so it was like this, there's so much was going on. We did some radio shows. And it was like, it was like, we threw a party. We threw a dinner.

It was like everything. It was like it was so much. And I loved it. I loved every, every ounce of it. And like you said, what was actually so funny was that like I was like a little slightly apprehensive that some Bravo stars would come up to me and be like angry at us. But what would happen was that we got a lot of people who were like, I know you hate me, but I think you're really funny.

And it was almost like they were scared of us. It's like that nature thing. Like when you see an animal, like you see a bee and your mom says, it's more scared of you than you are of it. That's kind of how I felt about the Bravo stars sometimes. Yeah, it was weird. I figured people who were meaner to, you know, like the Emily Simpsons and the joowls, you know, people like that, I figure it would just avoid us like the plague. But they didn't. They came right up and they were like, well, you know, they kind of stated their case. So there was a lot of that. And then there was a lot of promising like, you know, our reaction, my reaction was basically like, look, this is a comedy show. It's not made for you guys. We're making fun of you. You could be perfect and we're still going to rag on your ass and we're still going to. rag on your ass tomorrow but nice to meet you you know hugs but it was really cool meeting so many people so thank you to everybody over there who was so kind to us but beyond the bravo the bravo

leberties and stuff it was so great to meet so many of you we had a big meet up we had like 350 people there and that was super fun so we hugged a lot of you guys which was great and the best part of the whole weekend was you know for us this is like when you go to a work conference and you see all the people that you work with or that you work in the same field at And so we got to hang out with some of our besties in there. You know, Ryan was there. Ryan Bailey was there. Danny Pellegrino, Michelle Collins, Brian what's his buns from Volter?

I'm sorry, I'm just old. Brian Moylan, the two judgy girls, obviously, Courtney and Mary, and then Sessie and Angela, who we love. We went to a Bravo creator meetup the first night hosted by the prima Donald. So thanks for letting us into that one. So many creators there, and it was really fun. But to break this all down, Ben and I, you know, can talk for hours, and we probably will all week. But we wanted to bring our friends on to talk about it with us because what better way to discuss it than with friends, my right? So let's welcome to the stage.

The two judgiest, judgy girls, Mary and Courtney from two judgy girls. Hi, guys. Hi. Oh, my God, this is so fun. I love that everyone has like a bit of a horse voice right now because it's like Mary and I were laughing yesterday. We got in a cab and we're like, yeah, we're off to do some interviews. And the guy's like, you want to practice on me? And I said, not to be rude, I don't.

I'm trying to conserve my voice. And then he just talked the whole time. And I was like, this went the opposite direction. But I think a hoarse voice is an indication of a strong weekend. For sure. Yeah, I woke up like every morning sounding like B. Arthur. It was, it was really insane. And they're like, hello there.

Because there's, it's really because there's so much at their parties and there's music playing and you're just shouting and you don't realize how much you're shouting until you get home and you do sound like, like Lisa Barlow. I love that. Mary, how are you holding up? I mean, you guys all flew out this morning. I got to fly out last night. So I feel like I'm going to be like a day ahead of you. Okay. You know.

You got a little rest. Yeah, but you also have a newborn. I didn't get it. I woke up at 5.30 in the morning. Yeah. To a baby. I don't, you had a day ahead,

but you had to go back to like full time mothering. So I don't know that you had it easier. Mary, what do you prefer waking up next to me or waking up next to your baby? Waking up in the morning. That's really a trade off. I will say I woke up every morning. I was like,

what is that noise? I'm like, oh my God, she's pumping. Yeah. This is just our new normal now and I kind of love it. like it's great is it like an electric machine that's just like oh is that what it is yes i love it i'm going to get one okay so what are your um what are your general thoughts like

how did the weekend go for you who should should we talk about like who we met or stories how do you guys want to do it yeah i mean overall i thought that the weekend like i said i didn't know what to expect on it I thought I'm an exhausted, a grateful exhausted. I thought it was so amazing. There were so many people, like you guys said, we had so many Bravo Leopardy's who met so many fans. And you guys were saying in the beginning, like you were worried about people like they were going to,

like if they were going to talk to you or not because they were feeling mean. I felt like all the Bravo Lebris were very gracious throughout the weekend. Now, granted, I think they should probably just be nice in general, but they didn't have to be as nice as they were. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that's how I felt too. I was shocked, actually. I was expecting to get slapped. What kind of gossip did you hear from people over there? I'll start. I heard the two pieces that I heard from multiple people, this isn't like huge gossip, but just the general vibe of people is that Whitney from Salt Lake City was just shit face the entire weekend. I didn't hear from anyone who said that that woman was sober even for five minutes. So she apparently made an ass out of herself all weekend, which I felt kind of. bad for like it's not surprising but you ben and i were talking about how oh you you wait until

heather's mad at you because that will be your storyline she will that's the alcoholic yeah i i witnessed it firsthand i witnessed i witnessed Whitney rose drunk firsthand uh i landed my flight uh in from l a i landed at the exact same time and i know i've told like many people i like i like really bragged about this a lot over the weekend i was like guys my flight at the same time as your claim to fame of the weekend this is my i'm like guys i had the adjacent i have said it a lot but for people who haven't heard like literally uh if you guys saw on instagram there was these videos of brittany singing on a plane and all that that flight landed at the same time as my flight and i like walked off at the same time i walked into the airport

as brittany was walking and i was like oh my god that was the first of about five different times i met brittany over the weekend and each time she didn't remember she's like hi how are you she had the unicorn each time uh i think she had the unicorn four out of five times she carried that thing the whole the whole trip you know we we got it britt like it's not the bunny yeah so ben saw them yeah and so i i i encountered uh whitney and heather i went to the bathroom when i came out of the bathroom when heather were coming out of the bathroom at the exact same time and and hether was just kind of like propping up whitney uh Whitney was not like she wasn't going to like fall over but she was like and a steady enough

unsteady enough that like heather just sort of had an arm around her and so i said hi to heather i was like hey heather it's ben from watcher crap and she goes i know who you are ben mandelker how are you um she had last name yeah she said the full as she said the full name yeah uh but whitney um i told whitney i told them both i was like oh we're having a party on saturday night that was when i still had an illusion that any bravo liberty would ever come to our party instead of like hanging out at the four seasons so uh Whitney was like DM me DM me and she was so drunk and she like grabbed my arms and he goes I want I'm coming DM me and I was like okay and I DM'd her never she never even read it god bless

the thought that counts that's fantastic so Heather Heather told Ben something like well I guess Ronnie's not going to gamble with me next time because we got into like a little thing where she wanted us to change a nomination because she didn't like Monica was nominated for the crappy so whatever we got in some stupid spat but to me it's not a spat she just got mad at us or whatever and i figured you know that would blow over so i saw her and i was like okay i'll go make peace so i went up to her and i said hi and i said ben said you hated me and i don't hate you which i never said i never said that i was paraphrasing i was paraphrate i was taking the general idea and she said no i didn't say that

I just said you wouldn't gamble with me anymore. And I said, no, I'll still gamble with you, but you need to pick a less stupid game. Because she plays, I think, I think she likes Pye Gout, which is really hard. It's like really hard to learn the rules to this game. I lost so much money. And I was like, this is stupid. Let's just make peace. So we made peace and hugged, but then she walked away really fast.

And I was like, I don't know if we meant that. But it felt good because I don't like being in stupid spats, especially with, I don't know, someone on the TV. Right. They have their characters to us. I know they're real people. but like yeah it feels weird so what are yours who do you want to say i think it's okay because i just one last button on this because it they were the ones who suggested that we should like hether was the one who said we should do a picture so like that felt like a you were there's a

my interaction was very positive with her so maybe she was concerned about where she stood with you i'm not sure i don't know i don't know i think we'll just see we'll see i felt like at the few yeah Yeah, I think my people are like, it's a feud over. I think it's fine. I made it. It's not really even a feud. And it's stupid that I even said anything about it. The only reason I even said anything in the first place was because she unfollowed us both.

And so people noticed and were asking. And I was on here one night. And of course, opened my big mouth. I was like, oh, shut up, Heather. You know, I did that whole thing. But I wouldn't have even mentioned it. And it's just stupid to have a spat. And I don't like these bloggers spatting with everybody anyway.

And I don't want to be one of them. So I was like, let's just make up. I feel fine. Even if she still hates me. Who cares? She's a lady on my TV. So how about you guys? What were your personal interactions like?

I mean, my goal of the weekend was to have a SIG with Lou. That was literally, I put it out in the universe and I did get to interview her on the, like, creator carpet on Sunday. And I didn't have a SIG on me, but, I mean, we did a fake, like, so that counts again, you know? Yeah. I also I so I ran into Shep twice and the first time he gave me a hug and I've hung out with him in San Francisco and I was like I don't know if he knew who I was and then I got deeply offended that he didn't know who I was and I was and I was unfair Mary give that give like where it was happening that him and Austin had just done a panel on that outside stage and they came down to take pictures with people and there were like hundreds of girls trying to take their photos. Mary had like big sunglasses on and so I think she said something and it didn't register with him. It wasn't to like that he didn't remember her. I think he just

was like glossed over. So I didn't want I it. It made me feel forgettable and then luckily I ran into him. Luckily I ran into him in the hallway and I was like, like, I don't think you know who I was yesterday. Redemption. No, I remember. And he's like, and you posted a bad photo of me. And then we took a photo and Courtney got it where my eyes are closed and she posted that photo, which he reposted.

So he looked good in it. So I was a way. I did realize it is a live photo because when I posted our recap of the people that we met, it did show your eyes open. So I can, I'll change it, Mary. I'll make sure that you have it. I will apologize. I had one second to take it.

We were like, it was like, no pictures. And I'm like, no way. Someone just put, CSBS, put those poor Bravo lbs. I mean, just that's where you know, because this is the best moment of their lives. But we're all there converging on these people. Yeah. You know, we're converging on these people. We all talk shit in some way, shape, or form.

And then we get there and we're like, hi. And we're like, oh, I'm sad because I think that's, well, I wonder why. Haven't you seen the people posting like, oh, you know, so and so brush me off or like so and so was rude to me? And I was like, I don't think that that's, they're not trying to be. And this is not me defending Bravo Lovers, but we've seen some of their schedules for the weekend. Like they are literally go, go, go. And I'm like, I feel like people are finding them just at the time where they're like disassociating.

Because I will tell you at one point, I was standing there at the end of the day. and I was like, the lights are on, nobody is home right now. Like, you, Ronnie, even yesterday, you said, you need to go take an app. It's like, I do. Yeah, we're like, hey, let's have an end of trip dinner. And you're like, yeah, I can't wait. Let's just go hang out and just relax. I said, do you have nap face?

You need to get your ass to a bed because. And I did too. We did have dinner. We had like a casual dinner and then just crashed out. Well, you don't know what happened afterwards, Ronnie, which is that. So, Ronnie and I went and had a. dinner with Aisha and Hannah from Below Deck as well as our friend Kimberly and we're just kind of like a nice chill relaxing dinner wind down share some stories just easy and that's what we

did it was like just nice it was lovely it was just a lovely way to spend like Sunday night and then we were like let's well when we walked up into the casino into Mandalay Bay and then we're like Asia and some of her friends came to meet up and then like we sort of like split some people went to go gamble and then the rest of us went there's like a little bar to go like let's get a drink and this bar had a dance floor and then all of a sudden aisha's like oh yes this is my jam and next thing you know we're on the dance floor Asia is like twerking on me and I'm like wait how am I on a dance floor right now this is crazy and then I was like well let me see what time my flight is tomorrow I have to wake up at 6 in the morning and I'm suddenly dancing on my

chill night what is going on and I was like I have to go I have to go have to go and I like chugged my drink And I was like, buy Asia, buy everyone. I didn't even say, but I could, I was like, I couldn't, I didn't know where you were Ronnie. I was like, I'm going home. I just want to let you know Ronnie. For 10 minutes and I came back in there and I was like, oh, hell no, why would they go in there?

It was like a, it was like a dinner cruise. Everybody in their like weird skirts dancing to like brick house. I was like, get me. It was like all the Raiders fans had converged. A Sunday, Vegas is always scary. You know, like you don't want to be there on the Sunday. Yeah, it was weird. Well, because there was like a fan, you know, I guess in Vegas, what happens is that with all the conventions and events, there's always like this turnover.

So like all weekend long, it's like people in T-shirts that have Countess Luann's face on. It's like, Countess Luann, Countess Luann, clip, clip, you know, all these phrases. And then all of a sudden, Sunday afternoon, it's just like a sea of Raiders fans because Monday night football is. Cowboys. And it was cowboys. Yeah. So you had this strange, like, pivot to football. And I was like, I don't know if I can deal with this right now.

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The other thing I heard consistently was that Rachel Zoe wasn't very nice to people. Not us, but the other Bravo Lebs were saying that. Really? I don't know if any of us met her. I saw her pass by, but I didn't say anything to her. But I heard that. I heard that Whitney was wasted. I can also see like, I can also see like.

like Rachel like she was she's never been an ensemble cast and like she was the star so maybe she's having trouble like sharing the spotlight I could see that she also lives in a world of real celebrities and so now you have all these Bravo celebrities doing like celebrity cosplay and like one of the weird mind fucks of the weekend is that all the Bravo liberties suddenly become A-listers and then all of us we get to be we get we move up to the level of reality star

fan so we are the new d-listers and so but they get to be the a listers but rachel zoh's like but no i actually interact with a listers like i this is not she's got to get over that because now she's one of them you know and like we're saying the whole weekend we're like the all the bravo leberties are they're the beetles for the weekend like we were in the vipe at one point um on the first day and amira from next gen came out and i don't know if you guys had gone in there but they had basically like maybe like three different entrances that people were coming from the green room and they take three steps out and I mean I'm not kidding when I say mobbed like you see people sprinting and I'm like what is happening and then they're just surround so like they just surrounded

her and then just started chanting next gen next gen and I was like I don't know what to do with this info you know and then Amira who is obviously like it's her first time at this problem so she I'm sure that's her first time on the floor at that point too because that was on a Friday I'm like oh no Courtney Courtney at one point you have like um you were helping the next gen people like at the one point mothering brooks and arion on the creator carpet they're like what do we do like after we had interview them they're like so what do we do i'm like what do we do on this carpet i'm like oh you just like go to the next room like do you not have a handler they're like no so then i saw them standing i was like let me get i felt like i was their mom

like i was meredith marxing it right now like let me take you to someone like if you need help please come to me so they're like thank you so much they like couldn't have been nicer but i felt like very like maternal and like protective over them at one point. I did too because we did their panel and I felt the same way. Like some of the questions I just felt mean asking and then they you know you can tell they feel bad and I'm like it's okay honey you know like come yeah you know you just want to like hug them and it is interesting how you to see the backstage stuff how Bravo treats different tiers of their stars like tell us more Jen is new so they don't have the handlers whereas some of the blowdeck people who

have been there forever have people literally carrying their shoes and carrying their makeup and like do want this do you want that and they're like running around them and like i want look you in the eye you know treating them like they're jennifer lopez and then the next gen kids they're just like all right get out there do you think you know it's like your audition or whatever tell me about charlie tell me about charlie charlie was uh very aloof he i mean he was i mean he said some something nice backstage i don't remember what he said to us he was like he's like good job good job he like complimented us he's like you guys did a good job and that's a big compliment coming from charlie i think if he says good job

I mean, he was just doing his brat pack from the 80s thing where he's like, I'm going to wear sunglasses and I'm above it. And like he's slink, he sat in his chair like this the whole time. It's like, I'm Charlie. I was like, babe. Yeah. You brought up Lindsey Lohan. You brought up Lindsay Lohan.

He's like, oh, yeah, that was high school. It's like, okay, Charlie, not to be rude, she's a star. Now, I do want to comment that there's a very large age difference between the two of them. But I'm like, use that as your claim to fame. But also before we start, like, I just. also want to just give you guys the biggest props because you hosted your first panel it was the last one of the weekend you absolutely killed it like the crowd while people watched that show the crowd was for you guys like everybody there could not have been more excited to see you like i heard people talking about it like when has ben and ronnie's panel like where what stages it at like they were so excited to see your success so i just want to like shout that out that like you guys Everyone was so nice to us. We had so much fun at that thing.

There were so many people there. It was crazy to walk out and see so many people. I'm not kidding. The crowd was for you guys. Like everyone whispering around me. And they were just so proud of you. Me too. But you know what I mean.

Like everyone was very happy to see you. Thank you. We've been getting so much love from like top to bottom. People at Bravo, people in the audience. Random people have, have messaged us and have been so. So complimentary. Rachel Roy came right up to us and was like, you guys did such a good job. Congratulations. Oh, you were so wonderful. I was like, oh, what I said. What's your name? And she said, oh, she said, I'm Rachel. I'm Ava's mom. I said, oh, my God, you look so different. I said, you're so pretty and real. But you know, it's like you're seeing this model. And she just had her hair up in a baseball cap. So I don't recognize anybody out of glam, darling. Who would be, at least you didn't say Becky, you know. I know, because of course, that's the first thing. I was like, Becky, it would look. what would be your dream cast panel for next bravo con oh miami was lit and kiki had miami and she was like oh my god you guys you know you could just tell she was like okay ladies sit down

i mean i would love that i think i was interviewing kiki and sonia morgan kept on coming into the interview and interrupting it and then kiki literally started interviewing sonia for me like That is the chaos of the red carpet at BravoCon. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, I would love Salt Lake City. Yeah, sorry, no, no, go on. I would say, Salt Lake City would be great. I just also want to say, like, that experience of walking out onto that stage.

They actually put us on, like, the big stage, which was cool. For people who weren't there, there's, like, the big stage was just the gold stage. Then there's, like, the Bravoverse stage, which I don't think I actually went into that room. And then there was, like, a smaller stage that was in, like, the bazaar. And they put us on the big one. And, you know, we were, like, I'd been in that room and I'd seen that that room is big. But it's like when you come around that corner and you're up there on the stage and you look out, it's massive. It's like a full on convention room.

And there's just chairs just go. And like, you know, like, we've played some nice sized places over the past years, of the past years. But like this one, you just sort of, it just felt like just went. It just kept on like a football field. I was like, oh my God. This is huge. It was crazy. And we had little earpiece in.

and there was a teleprompter. It was wild. It was wild. So thank you to everyone who showed. But it was just, you guys just absolutely killed it. And I think, too, is having that last panel of the weekend,

that's a tough spot to be in, right? Because that's the last spot. People are tired. But the crowd, I still feel, I know you said that you couldn't, you couldn't really hear the crowd that much,

but the crowd was like electric for you guys. And to have the last panel. The crowd was amazing. Yeah. The crowd was really great. And Meredith Park showed up too. The kids are just like, They're all filming a film, you know, where they're like, hey, like they'll answer like this.

You know, they're just very natural. And you ask them something. They're like, well, here's how I feel about. Hey, Brooks. How do you, one of the first questions was something like, so, Brooks, do you think you've come more out of your shell this season? He's like, yeah. I really like, I've really like me to come out of my show. He actually had a really funny, snarky comment on the panel.

And I can't remember what it was. But I was like, oh, my, I'm like, oh, maybe he really is kind of coming out of his shell. they were that was like a great yeah well you know he was flaring his eyes they were all mad at charlie and he he kept flaring his eyes like he was just about to go off and i kept nodding at him like bring it you know because he was looking like he was so pissed but he wouldn't vocalize whatever he was pissed off about so i need to get better maybe maybe if i have more practice i'll know how to be like brooks i think 2027 you guys are going to have like five panels you guys that that would be audition to do more channels like you're going to be all over it in 2027 what was really fun to me was that

towards the end no there's Q&A from the audience and so the the the directions they gave us was we would alternate back and forth like you know Ronnie would say okay you over there on the left and I would say you over there on the right something like that but would alternate back and forth so Ronnie Ronnie cued someone in the line and they had this question that was like what's what are your favorite spots in the city to eat at and so then I was supposed to be the next one and they answered, I don't know if he knows this, Ronnie, we never talked about this. They trickled out their answer and every time I thought they were done, another one would say something. So like, they're so low key, so it'd be like, lure, I really like going

to lure. And then they'd be like dead air. And I'd be like, okay. And then some of the Brooks would be like, I like pasta house. They're like, okay. And I like, um, I like, um, spimonies. Okay. And over the left, uh, I also like, yeah, It's like, it was like, I was like, you guys, enough, we don't need every single place. And you noticed that, they just kept on tricking out these answers. And I kept on stepping on them because I kept on thinking they were done. But they kept on like, every single one of them wanted to give like a very quiet answer. And I was like, okay.

So silly. All right. Well, let's talk about some of the gossip that came out of the weekend. Portia, this, the newest one is that Porsche got in trouble on a plane. She got in trouble on her flight back. TMZ has reporters waiting at the gate, I guess, because we see the air marshals

escorting her off the plane and she's, of course, being escorted off just as you think Portia would be. She's like, love you, love you, like waving to fans. We don't know what happened on that plane yet. I don't think. Have you guys heard? No, but Kara Berry, do you guys follow her? Everybody's business

in mind. She was on threads yesterday and she said I have some like information about somebody on a flight and it's not Meredith and then the portrait and so and I'm like do I need to text her and see but then I was like you know I'm going to wait and so when the story

came out she just said told you I was like oh my god well why didn't she tell us yeah she should have told everybody not giving it to TMZ come on Kara maybe she made money on that maybe she did tell TMZ and that's why they the footage. Oh, maybe. We don't know. We don't know.

We don't know. Don't tell us, though. Don't be still stay a story. I have to, I have to run right now, but I'm so happy I got to chat for just a little bit. Yeah, we love you, Mary. We love, I love seeing you guys, IRL, and thank you for having you for a bit, but I got to work. Yeah, we love seeing you and thanks for coming and spending some time with us. And also, congrats on your baby. Thank you so much. Okay, we'll talk to you soon, but we're going to keep Courtney, Sucker. you later okay so finally that was really she's gone the baby maker's out of here thank god we um one thing that i really liked that came out of it was man these bravo viewers we as a group are messy bitches all of us are and someone was videotaping shep going off in a bar on

Craig. That was at Bravo I think it was just straight up at Brava. It wasn't even at a bar. It was just right there on the floor. It was like one of those bars in Vegas. I think he was talking to the southern. It looks like the hospitality people, right?

It felt like Bradley was in that. But you know, it's crazy because he was bad in 2023, right? And so I'm like, I think people were like, okay, he's like learned his lesson. And then of course he has to close out the weekend doing something ridiculous, right? He always, yes.

Like he, what's his, like he, hate there's a ridiculous amount of hate he has for page and it's like why because she chose like craig over you i can't figure out why he hates her so much you just you said it probably that's yeah i think that's it and it's also hatred for craig he's always resented craig since the beginning and undermined craig and so the fact that craig got i mean he was going off on both of them really he was saying uh if if you guys haven't seen this video it's basically him saying yeah page you know broke up with him on a podcast who does that and um you know they it was a sham the whole time these two were faking it and they got millions

of fault they made millions of dollars and how many followers did page get off of craig craig's back and they were just faking it this whole time to make millions of dollars i mean really bitter and really yelling and everyone was laughing at him but man whoever had their phone i was very proud of them because they held it very stable and they kept it hidden and my messy queen, whoever it was. Yeah. It was like, Kara, was that you again? I know.

My theory is that, well, Shep has always been jealous on some degree of Craig's success. But I also think that like Shep sees Craig as someone who fails upwards in life. And I think he sees Craig as this nice guy who kind of lies and is slippery with the truth. And now he got to be with Paige and they got to somehow be designated as like America sweethearts for like three years and the entire time Shep is like America sweetheart but like there's there's problems in this relationship and like there's inequities or whatever it is and then Craig gets this whole glow up which goes side by side with

his sewing down south coming up and you know Shep is thinking Craig is just a figurehead Jerry's doing all the work and like you can see that Shep is like this is all like this more to the story than this and now I'm the one who gets to be the bad guy and everyone loves Craig and he's like loses his mind and now here he is at the end of a of a probably a weekend of seeing an enormous sewing down south state farm activation that was there and jakewa state farm is there doing sewing down south sewing down south state farm and chef probably just can only do so much also a new ken burns documentary premiered last night and he probably just was in such an emotional state that he was like i can't even deal

do you find like similarities between chef and then like lala with ariana like chef and craig la and ariana i feel like la was stupid body suits well no but like the jealousy of like Ariana and have like kind of something similar like Craig and Shep kind of live similar lives. And I feel like Shep is kind of, why not me? And then like with like Lala and Ariana, it was a little bit for Lala. Like, well, why not me with like when it happened to me with Randall. Oh, she kept missing every boat. That was always the running joke with Lala. You know, she wanted the wedding. Someone else got the wedding. She wanted the pregnancy storyline. Someone else got pregnant first. She wanted the breakup. Someone else had the big breakup. You know, so Lala's always kind of, Lala was always kind of getting stood up on her. he was yeah but oh speaking of them we saw a sound of all we talked i haven't seen sound of all in years but we saw him and we were like hey i mean i think it's been four years or something since we've seen him right ben yeah four years it's been like four years so we saw him and he was like oh hey guys yeah it's much better this time like people are cool because traders like you know traders gave him the redemption arc and then he just keeps going and he's like you should see my shows bro

We've got like such cool stuff now, like we've got these video machines and we've got these things called ego risers and they make you look taller. It's like badass. Oh, anyway, what are you guys up to? We're like, oh, we're going to the bizarre. You know, we just like kind of twirled away. But it was funny seeing him. He was drunk. He was, he was, I mean, he wasn't like, he wasn't like a disaster. But like he was just, he was just having a good time. His backstage and just like, oh my God, I'm no longer. People like me again. I'm celebrating. And he was like, man, somehow we started talking. about AI. He's like, dude, if you want to make a lot of money, why don't you invent the thing that, like, can detect AI? Because like, that's where like the money is. Maybe I'll be the one to invent it, you know, right? And he's like laughing. He's like, maybe it'll be me. I told him. I said there was an AI detector. Like he's a little late. Just a little late, Tom. Yeah, it's like, seriously, they should invent it. We were dying. What's the drama that happened? Because they're saying that, like, Lizzie and his girlfriend got in a fight. But when I watched the clip, it looks like Tom and

Victoria were fighting and Lindsay was there like trying to break it up kind of siding with Victoria like yeah I'd be pissed too but the main thing was that Victoria is not wearing shoes in Vegas and that's what I took away from it yeah I just that to me I was like no shoes are needed always I don't care if you're in socks you need a pair of shoes even if it's slippers in Vegas yeah someone just told us about that actually who was someone last night was telling us yeah they saw sandoval and his girlfriend and she was all dressed to the nines and And they were coming into the celebrity entrance where all the paparazzi waits and all the fans wait and they scream for everybody as they come in and all this. And so they were coming in there.

And Tom tried to do a trick like by lifting her up and throwing her over his shoulder and her ass came out of her dress. And so he was like, you know, twirling her, her lady parts all over. And then she's like one of the dolls on traitors. And then everyone was disgusted with her because she was barefoot. So that's what I heard. I just was like, what a, what a Tom Sandoval story? I mean, he was on, was it on the Traders panel that they were like, you know, we've been approached for like the valley. You guys want to see me back on the valley and the whole crowd booed.

And he's like, okay, that's not how I thought it was going to go. Well, the biggest boo as has been widely reported. And I didn't see this, but Jared Osman when he, when they asked him to stand up at the panel. And apparently like, biggest, biggest, biggest. biggest, biggest, biggest booze happened when he stood up, which is, I was there. I love when the Bravo community comes together. Well, so after, so then I was with Ryan after that panel because he wanted to get something to eat.

We come back in and Jared's standing there. And we're like, when will we see this person again next week on SLC, I'm sure? But in person, so we go up to him. And he, like, he's waiting for people to, he's standing there, like, waiting for people. And we, like, don't tell him who we are or whatever. We're just like, oh my God, Jerry, can we get a pick? I saw you guys also got a picture with him, too. Did he tell you why he got Britney the unicorn?

No. But he said Bill DeBer owes him money. He's like, Bill DeBer owes me some money because I've given them a lot of press. Yeah. So he was like, well, I buy build a bears for my kids. And I'm like, okay. And he's like, so I asked Brittany, has anybody ever gotten you a builder bear? And she said, no, nobody's ever.

It's like, yeah, because you're 54. yeah like not that you can't have a build a bear but like you're telling me how you buy your kids build a bear and then you're so then you're like well i must get you a build a bear i'm like yeah okay jared yeah like yeah it was just shoot well brittie got a real gift right ben because we went that that night we saw them out and um brittney had just said earlier in the day she had done some panels saying oh yeah we're broken up you know doing her ding ding ding Ding, ding. Brittany is just so enamored with herself, which is so funny. But she's like, yeah, guys, I have an announcement.

Ding, ding, ding. We are finally broken up. Ha, ha, ha, ha. And that's what she went with. But then that night, we got a picture with them at the four seasons and then Ben made a thing and spread it all around. I made a video. Apparently, he called Justin and told Justin, I'm flying to Vegas. And so he wasn't originally there.

I guess they were good friends. And then he decided, I want attention. We'll get back together for the weekend. Yeah. And do you see her post too? She posted like, this is just for my subscribers on her public Instagram page that then put it on threads too. And it was like her rubbing Jared's arm and singing. I'm like, this is just like you keep me entertained, but your life is chaotic. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she is like, like we've mentioned before like seeing her walking around. I mean, this was definitely her moment. She was like, they sort of like looking at the tall build like the tall ceilings and this and that. And it was just like. You know, there was part of me that was very happy for her, like, sort of, like, childlike, static mental state, you know, where she was like, wow, it's like those movies when the farm girl goes to the city. So there's probably that's like, you know, it's like when Bet Midler, when country Bet Midler arrives in New York City and big business. And she's like, wow, look at that, Sky Squiper. Or Britney and everything we've ever seen her in.

And I just feel like she's just like, like, I don't know, I was happy for her, but I was like, man. you are you're a deluded lady you're a real definitely stunted i believe like there's yeah that's stunted yeah i'm not saying something when you're talking about bravo stars you know when you stand out as being stunted girl commercials here comes one right now so um another big thing that was coming out of the weekend was a fight i never saw coming Oh, I love this. Versus Madison from Southern Charm. I was shocked at this one.

So apparently they were doing, Madison was doing a panel and Austin had a picture of Cy over his face where, you know, she had to describe the picture that was over his forehead and he had to guess it. So what do you call that game? It's like heads up or whatever, basically, but with Bravo Labs. Yeah, so it was Cy's face. And she's like, oh, I'll tell you, that's the meanest lady I ever met. And Austin was like, oh, yeah, you mean you?

And she said, no, it's from New York City. But she said, Sy is the meanest person she's ever met. So, Cy commented on this clip that was posted and it says, you must have me confused because not all brown people look alike. I never even met her before. So then Gibson Johns, Gavin. It's actually Jordy Cray, by the way. Gibson gives him the credit later. But Jordy Cray is the one who found this photo.

And Vanita also, by the way, weighs in and says, before we get to. that part was gray but but side of silver says you mix you know you're not all brown people look like and vanita goes what she's just she's just proving her point l-o-l and i'm assuming what vanita meant by that was like uh sigh you're proving that Madison is correct is that is that what they need that by that so i think what happened was that jordy cray then posted a photo of them being on a panel at bravo con two years ago together like sitting or watch what happens live or something and then madison then like tagged her in something thing and then they started going off in the DMs and then I think was it comments by

Bravo that picked up somebody picked up and then that's why Bravo so that the interaction that they have um with comments that comments on Bravo put out there which by the way love comments by Bravo so much um in this sort of DM that Sai and Madison are having size like listen girl leave me alone I don't know you and I don't remember sitting next to you two years ago Madison goes well you remember now bitch And then Sire responds, I still couldn't pick you out of the lineup. You're extremely unmemorable for laughing emojis. Now, to me, I'm like, you guys are both mean girls, so that's fine.

But, like, also, it's like, Cy, you're not doing yourself any favors here. Like, take the L on this one and just you could just say, oh, I just didn't remember her. Like, I don't know. I feel like she was trying to, like, make a moment of this and it backfired in both ways. People get very offended. There were a few people that we talked to, you know, the Bravo Lebrides who were like, well, so-and-so didn't even know who I was on the panel. And that bitch doesn't even know me. And this one doesn't even watch my show.

Like, they get so upset that they don't know each other. There's hundreds of you, you know, and a lot of them don't watch, you know, like below-deck people don't watch Housewives shows. And Housewives shows do not watch below deck, you know. And so there was a lot of inter, a lot of offense taken in there. And I thought that was so funny. They're just like, how dare you not know who I am? Did you see Jesse Solomon shade Vicki Gumbelson? What did he say?

Jesse Solomon from Summerhouse. So they said something about Vicki getting her orange back. Because obviously that was like a big news item of the weekend too, right? It was a surprise, but like she obviously had to know about it. I mean, I thought it was a surprise. I'm so gullible. I was like. It was not a surprise at all.

I feel like she's probably called Andy week after week saying I will sign that contract today. I will sign it today. I will sign it today. I feel like it was. I don't think she's that good of an actress to be so surprised on stage. Like maybe she knew it was going to happen at some point. Well, they have to go through contract negotiations. I know when you say it out loud, it makes sense.

But like, in my mind, I was like, she's so surprised Mary. And she's like, are you kidding me? I'm like, oh, she carried that or not real court. me, okay, Santa is not real court me. Well, okay, two things now that I've been told that I didn't know, okay? But Jesse and guess was like, who is she? Like, who is that? It's like, you were literally here because of Vicky.

Yes. You don't know who Vicky. Yeah. How dare you. Just shut your mouth, shut your giant mouth, Jesse, okay? And also, everybody who ran into Jesse said, what a douche. They were like, what a douche. I didn't hear one person say, wow, Jesse was so nice.

Everybody was like, douche, douche. Well, West, West just posted something. Let me find it. I was like, this isn't, this isn't newsworthy. And then, of course, now I'm like, where is it? But West posted something that he re, he retweeted someone who was like, like, I don't know. Like, West is like not spending a lot of time with the fans at all. He's like nowhere.

Like, he's just like, he's clearly in it for the celebrity. He's like not backstage. He's not high. He's not the VIP. He's like not in it. So he retweets this and he's like, wow, imagine spending an entire weekend with this like amazing crowd of people. And you're just like with all these people just to try just to fly home and you read this. I'm like, okay, relax, sir.

him on his side you guys no i'm not saying i'm not saying he's wrong but i'm like like like relax he's like oh poor it's like once again the guys on summer house they love pulling the poor me card over and over again like no you did it like just go on i saw him and i would because i i i saw him and i was like west and they were leaving and he's like they're like no he has to go and i was like oh you know Courtney, blah, blah. And he's like, oh, my God. And he was so nice and like, hug me. How are you?

Let's take a photo. Like, he was so kind. So I just feel like it's such a bummer. Maybe I just was like lucky to get such good interactions with people. But I just feel bad when it is like, wow, you had like one, one bad interaction that like changes the whole trajectory of how somebody's going to view you because they didn't, they didn't see you when we're out there. Yeah. Why am I defending them? I don't know.

Maybe I'm just. No, you don't have to. I wasn't saying that he was. I wasn't saying like, yeah, he was. being too cool for school at all. I just thought it was so funny that he was pulling the move on Twitter. I was like, come on, you're a celebrity. Don't pull that move. One thing that I loved, by the way, one of my favorite features of the con is that there's like this via there's like this there's a VIP lounge and that's different from the backstage here, but there's a VIP lounge where

if you have a VIP thing bracelet, you can go into it. And if you stand outside of that, but the entrance there was some weird thing where like, like out of nowhere, a Bravo Leopardy would materialize with like three handlers and they would whisk them down the hall to the stage they had to go to. It's like, and you never knew where they, they appeared from. You just would like turn around and like there was Camille Grammer and then she would just sort of float by quickly and they wouldn't, they weren't able to stop and talk to people because they had to go to their panels.

But it was like every five minutes, like one would pop up and then float by and it was so quick and surreal that you're like, wait, did that just like, did that just happen? The wicked integration, you know? Yeah. like Jake from State Farm. Jake's from State Farm was everywhere. Everywhere. They made that guy work his ass off. Jake from State Farm. And his name is Kevin I found out. Oh, really? It's not even Jake. I'm like, what?

Yeah, someone court-ordered creations is talking about this. And I heard this a lot this weekend, too. People were upset because the last BravoCon, they got to meet a lot of the celebrities because if you go into that VIP lounge, you know, know some of them would come out and people would get to talk to them and have a drink with them and stuff and this time they were all hidden pretty much so people felt like they paid for that experience and didn't get to talk to them but i'm wondering if that's just because it got so out of hand because the last time i was i was there because patricia the only reason i went last time is because patricia from southern charm was like i need an escort because the person who was going to go

with me, isn't going to go, and I just need someone to kind of walk me around a couple times or whatever. And so I was like, of course, you know. So I went with her and being with her, I saw people. I mean, she was sitting on a couch and Adriana was on the other couch. So I was talking to Adriana and someone else was talking to her. When I tell you, and they had security guards surrounding them, when I tell you people crawled over those couches, they were crawling over them. They were like, wait, they would like try to distract a security guard and then get around him. I'm like, well, what are you going to do, jumper? Are you going to jump on Patricia? Like, what do you think is going to happen? So I don't know if that's why, like they

were keeping them more sequestered, but yeah, people were complaining about that a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's also hard. The logistics of that space are really difficult, like, just getting there and getting it. And there was this rainstorm. I didn't, I didn't know it could rain in Vegas. And that Saturday, we didn't even bother going down to the con because there's so, it's so hard to get in and out of there. Like, you'd think that when they built that convention center, that they would make some sort of consideration for like how people would arrive to it. And it's like impossible and so gridlocked. It's crazy.

That's definitely one of my takeaways is like dealing with the logistics of that place because it was wild. Also, you know, it was no, it was the most stressful part of the weekend for me were the bracelets that they gave us. Because they don't, they're not these like plastic ones that you get like in a music fair. You know, it's like there are these, they're like ribbons and they have a little plastic thing. And if you can tighten them, you can't loosen them. And like once you tighten it, there's no going back. And like, I initially tightened it. Like, I was like, oh shit, I can't untitent it.

And it was like, stuck to me all weekend. And this morning, I finally was able to find someone with scissors. Like, get this thing off of me, please. Look at mine. I'm showering with it. I still have mine. Is you still on? I tried taking mine off last night at dinner with a steak knife.

Do you see it's all great? It's so scary. I've looked ridiculous. and Janky all day, but I didn't get it. And then I came home and I was so tired. I didn't even bother cutting it. I just slept with it. But this Vicky thing, just going back to this Vicky thing really quick, you've got a show

that just had a huge scandal with somebody getting caught with all these transphobic, homophobic, and basically horrible rape. I don't know. I'm sure we'll go into it again on the recap. And then you bring back Vicki Gumvelson. Are you paying attention? Who is running, who is driving the car over there? I know.

I feel very, like after she said like Heather doesn't fit in the cast because she's too liberal because she's like an ally to the LGBTQIA community. I'm like, okay, now I don't really want you back. But then also if I'm like, okay, if I'm going to look at you as a character because that's what I have to do to like try to separate the art from the artist, if you will, Vicki has to come back in some capacity for the 20th season. And I think it should just be hosting a party in her backyard in the grotto where someone gives her an award for being the OG of the OC and then she falls down those stairs again. Like, and then scene cut, that's it.

Yeah, I mean, why would you bring back such a bigoted monster? I mean, the woman, the woman is a nutcase and she's a terrible human being. I can't believe they're bringing her back for us. The show's in enough trouble. You guys need to do some fixing. And now they're out on the red carpet and Gretchen's out there. Gretchen's out there like, yeah, everybody knew those tweets were a lie because people who knows me know that I'm the biggest supporter of gay and lesbian people. And listen, I had the first drag queen ever on a housewife show.

Listen, we are not your freaking monkeys and pinatas at a child's birthday party. Like bringing a drag queen to a birthday party does not mean pro gay rights, you fucking nutcase. I can't believe people are falling for her shit. You get a pass for 20 years now because you had that 2009. So it's coming up on the renewal. How was she not booed off of the Bravo con stage? I can't believe she was there and everybody's like fine with whitewashing all of this. But whatever.

Have fun, Vicki. I'm going to have phone with you back. Yeah. Evil eyes. Speaking of Orange County, Shane Simpson, did you talk about this? How Shane Simpson came right up to us? Shane Simpson walked right up to us, walked right up to us. And he put out his arm, his hand.

He goes, hey, guys, I just have to say, you guys are so funny, what you guys say. You guys are so good. I was like, uh-oh, because I was like, I was trying to avoid, um, I was having an avoided list. Emily and Gina, I was avoiding only because I was just on, um, Gibson's podcast. And I had done my, my new, my new stick right now is to say, hey, it's been seven or eight years. And Emily and Gina have not had a single memorable, iconic, giffable moment. And this is an issue. And I've said it on crap as before, but I said it on Gibson's and he made a clip of it.

And it's been going around. And so I was like, oh, God. i basically i'm saying like they should be fired and like who was like i don't like this is people's employment and now like i don't want to have to come face-to-face with someone and be like oh my god i said you should be fired from your job well we say it every week i mean the last rakeap was like screw these people i hate them get rid of them these bigoted idiots i know that fuck emily fuck jean i fire them and so he goes hey emily come over here and emily standing there she like hey she goes oh god should i hit you should i slap you and i was like i wouldn't blame you if you did

And she's like, well, I mean, I get it. I mean, I've listened to it. I mean, I get it. Whatever. You don't like me. Fine. And I was like, well, you know, we just comment on the show, but nothing personal, you know. She was actually cool.

Shane was like a fan. He's like, you guys are so funny. You guys are just so funny. Like, just keep like, I'm so impressed with you guys. He was actually so effusive. And he was like, great job, you guys. I'm so impressed with the work that you guys do. That is so good.

And I was like, this is not what I was expecting at all, at all. But that was most of our interactions this weekend was like, okay, I've heard it. No, you hate me, but so fun stuff, you know. Like you said, don't listen. Don't listen. It's not for you. And we can't just come back and be like, oh, we met, you know, Emily at a buffet. So we have to be nice now.

You know, I was like, oh, God, this is going to. Is that where you really met her, Ronnie? Literally. Yes. Yeah. We were, no, we were at the buffet, the backstage buffet. Oh, I thought you were making a mean joke. No.

Oh, no. We were there. No, I'm not being mean. It was more of a salad bar. To be fair, it was more of like a salad bar. So we were walking there and they came up. And I also, I want to clarify one thing briefly, something I said on Kiki and Durinda's show, which is I was talking about how Abe the babe called me a fucking asshole. And I was like, yeah, well, I mean, I'm like, I'm going to lose sleep if he calls me a fucking asshole.

I kind of feel like what I didn't really express properly. was that like it was a totally like funny interaction and that it was like he busted my balls and like we it was like a bro it like it was like he he sort of got it out this little bit he's busting my ball but sort of getting something out but like it was like it was fine and it was like ended with laughter and it was like a good interaction and he's like I get what you're going to say to us you know what else you're going to say to us I know but no because people were because no but I'm saying because people were we're saying like they called like Abe called Ben a fucking asshole and i want to be like well it wasn't it wasn't like deep like that you know no well i went

to the camera too and said i was like hey and she was like mother fucker hey bitch you know and then was but you got to give them at least one motherfucker to get out of their system but overall it was a really go ahead no i was gonna say about tamara is that what's so funny is that uh her her makeup girl was like i listen to every single one of your episodes you guys are so funny i love when you guys do Tamara's voice and so like she like someone really close in Tamara's orbit knows every single shitty thing we say about her but like Tamara's like whatever she loves being in no she's got eyes on everyone that Tamara judge eyes on everyone she knows what's happening all all at all times like every account every podcast like we were blocked she's unblocked us now I was afraid I was going

to run into her at BravoCon I didn't she was that was one I was like oh god I'm all scared about that one. Yeah. She frightens me because then I also am like, would I like actually like her though? Like when you meet everybody, they're just, they really are so lovely. And so like I feel like when you're talking to them, you're like, okay, now I'm like, I just want you to know my opinion of you on the show is not going to change. Like how you act on the show, I'm still going to be discussing. But you're a very lovely human being and thank you for the nice conversation. Well, I've always said the ones that i meanest to are probably the ones i would get along best with in real life like kyle makes me crazy on beverly hills she's always made me crazy she triggers me there's something

she does every year that just and every year i start fresh but ever it's like that's my biggest one that makes me she just makes me nuts but i'd probably get along with her great it's just ever it's like they're throwing your family under the bus it's the it's everything all the time with her it's a fakery of like queer baiting for two years i mean it's just the whole thing but um I'd probably get along with her great. She seems like a really fun girl. And Tamara seems like a really fun girl. She's made me crazy for years too.

So who knows? You know? I talk to the guys from Southern Charm. The guys from Southern Charm on that show, I've ripped them to shreds. They make me nuts. And I think they're great in real life. They're all really nice in real life. Well, I don't know, Shet, but Austin and Craig are really nice in real life.

I had a really fun conversation with Janet. I went up to her and I was like, I really enjoy you as like a very plain villain. And she's like, thank you so much. I really appreciate that. I really enjoyed being just like a basic villain. But, uh, that's funny. Ronnie, Nick says, did you guys get to meet any of the McBie boys? Oh, my God.

How did I not talk about that? Okay, so we were at a party. We're not supposed to talk. Well, nothing really deep. It's a, it's a, but I saw them. Yeah. Yeah. Galena came right up to us.

Go ahead. No, I was just going to explain to everyone. It was supposed to be a, like, an off-the-record party. So it's like everything was like. sphere of safety, but this, I was to say, but this was not a gossipy moment. This was just like, oh, we saw something. Yeah, no, it wasn't gossipy. So Galena came right up to us, and you know I love Galena.

I love Galena. And she looked beautiful. She was in like a full Russian beauty queen glitter dress, you know. So I talked to her a little while, and I saw the boys, because they're not very subtle. I mean, the boys, they were in these colored suits. You know, they all had a different colored suit on. And then they wore big, wide-brimmed cowboy hats, really nice cowboy hats. And they weren't really, the Bravo people ignore.

them like the other people on bravo just didn't really pay attention to them they stood at one table kind of towards the front door the whole time and no one really talked to them and um that i saw because you know i watched them the whole night because i love jesse mcby and so uh bitch sash was there um daniel and casey who are really lovely ladies so casey was like oh my god the mcby boys i'm a stand i was like we're the only stands here let's go get him so we went over there and like an idiot i said case you do it with your phone because i didn't want people to be juggling phones and i still need to get that picture from her i should have made her do it with my phone but we got a picture with jessie mcbee's so cute someone literally so cute someone told me maybe it was you

courtney someone over the course of the weekend said that there was some sort of like some some event where they said that um when the mcgis walked in they got like the loudest ovation out of everyone like it was there was something where the cheers were like off the charts yeah it was at bravo con and i was like at bravo con there was something where they walked into something i don't know if it was the panel or if it was like a bravo paloosa a fan thing they walked into something and they got the biggest cheers out of everyone and i just went no that means 10 years of mcby oh my god micby dynasty is with us for 10 years now and we're going to get spin-offs and we're going to see what that twit is doing down in texas

with her friends. I don't even remember her name. He's got a new girlfriend now, so she's gone. And the new girlfriend looks exactly like her. Oh, yeah. With Kayla, Callas? Cala. Steve's got a new girlfriend, so don't worry.

I don't think we'll be going to Dallas. I mean, the amount of hate you have for the show is I'm like obsessed with it because the fact that you still will watch every episode and do a recap. I will probably start to like it. My trajectory is a lot of times when I hate something very passionately, I somehow start to love it. And I hate, like, I, I hate that that might happen with me with McBees.

And what I've always said is, it's not that it's about farmers. It's just that it's like, I think it's just like a really shitty, like a poorly produced show. It to me, it's like A&E drivel. And I just think that like, if Bravo could like make it like nice, make it nice, then I could probably get into it. But like, right now I'm like, I have to, I have to keep my high, my high Bravo standards. Okay. because as goes bravo so goes the rest of this country and like the bravo's the last thing standing

i think between us and a civilized nation and so we need to preserve it okay we need to have the bravo standards have to apply to every show no exceptions they need truly original over there whatever does salt lake city get on the mcbys too please yeah please do that all right so um god this has been an hour usually we stop this to talk but we've gone to chat with people uh here on the waiting room or whatever, but we have chatted so long. Thank you so much for coming to talk to us. We love you, Courtney. I could talk for hours, so thanks for cutting me off.

It's amazing. I think this is such a fun weekend. Thanks for having me out. You guys never stop working. Are you like the hardest working guys in Bravo? No, I think Ryan Bailey is probably the hardest working. Did you see that guy? He drove home last night.

And Danny Pellegrino, too. Danny Pellegrino did like five panels. Michelle Collins did like 10 over. Yeah, I mean, I think seven. Everybody was fantastic. But Ryan drove home last night from Vegas to be on Jeff Lewis this morning. Yeah. Well, oh my gosh.

I was like that. Jeff Lewis had a really controversial week too at the weekend. Oh my gosh. He got in trouble left and right over there. He got viewers will not see what happened because they cut that from his panel. We watched it the other day. Oh, really? He made a comment about SNAP benefits with Monica Garcia.

And I said something like didn't, didn't, whatever with that girl. Didn't she get her snap benefits cut off? Yeah. And I watched that panel and like I like Jeff Lewis for being snarky. See, look at me. I'm going to talk about it. But like I like him being snarky, but I felt like he was just being mean. It was like a little just too much.

And now it seems like he's also kind of like blaming Andy for it, which is crazy because like you have this show that's going to be coming on Bravo. And instead of like apologizing being like, look, I shouldn't have said that, whatever. he's like doubling down on it just which then also feel very Jeff baby yeah yeah so Vegas you know you got to double down so he really do yeah yeah he now we all yeah he

now we all know this show's coming back though yeah and I was like I don't I don't feel like he was supposed to announce that either oh did they not make an official official announcement I didn't I didn't personally like I mean Andy confirmed it when Jeff said it but I didn't see anything like we got Rhode Island we got a trailer

we got a post about that I don't recall seeing anything about Jeff's show. So correct me if I'm wrong, anybody in the chat. But I don't remember seeing anything about it after that was confirmed. That's wild. Yeah. Yeah, he got in trouble. Yeah, he got some shock.

He's like, wow, Jeff Lewis got in trouble. Shocker. Wait, can we give us shout out also to Margaret Joseph's? Because Margaret Joseph's held, I think, the best party of the weekend. Like, her party was great. She had a great party on Thursday night. She had a giant bowl of caviar. She had a photo booths.

She had booze. I mean, of course, the best party beyond the Watcher Crappins party that we threw. I know. I feel like you guys need to have like a minute or two where you just talk about that. Well, that was great. I mean, that was just a lovely time. Like everyone, like we thought we were going to get 100 people and it was just jam-packed. And we, we estimate it as like over 300 people.

But I mean, who knows? But it was just so fun. Everyone came in and there was ice cream. Jenny's ice cream. Shout out Jenny's ice cream for hooking us up with. all that free ice cream they were so great to do that and beer park accommodated everyone that was amazing that was really really great and because there's nothing to do after after the final like nighttime you know taping happens there's nothing to do for people so we were like

let's have a party and like let's have people come over so it was awesome that so many people showed up thank you to everyone who came by we know it was like rainy and humid and it was probably super annoying for some people to make that schlep but we really appreciate you come into that um but also shout to yeah it was super great all of us to her yeah we appreciate that and you guys all coming to that and coming here to talk to us and Courtney you being our friend hanging out with us and talking to us here thank you so much follow two judgy girls i'm sure you guys already all are check out their podcast and we will be back next time next time we'll do an extra long Q&A session with you guys to make up for what we missed

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