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Episode Date: November 20, 2025Southern Charm is back and we’re opening at Madison’s baby shower. Craig is mad at Venita for being team Paige, Salley gets in troubs for not adhering to girl code, and the boys argue ove...r Craig’s fake alcohol recovery storyline. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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I'm Ronnie and that's the gorgeous Ben Mantlecker over there's so much than crap is.
I'm Ronnie and that's the gorgeous Ben Mantleker over there.
Hello, Ben.
Hi Ronnie.
How's it going?
What's going on, baby?
Maybe. Not much. Just, um, um, just, um, just hanging out here with you, having fun.
Yes, it is time for a new season of Southern charm, season 11 episode,
Uno. So we're glad to be here for that. You guys catch us Monday nights. We're either doing
crappy hour at 530 Pacific or like this coming Monday. We'll be doing Amazon Live at 4 p.m.
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So join us for that stuff.
That's super fun.
And welcome to the show.
Everybody, what did you think about the premiere of season 11, Ben?
I liked it.
I thought it was sort of like light and frothy.
I enjoyed much of it.
I enjoyed the opening scene.
I enjoyed Molly's breakdown about her band performance.
I did not enjoy the return of Corey,
looks crazy now he's trying to be like hipster he's i think he's trying to do like a benson boon hipster look
and i think look just go back to your broie broie baseball cap and you know flannel situation
that's her that's your land stick to it honestly though i enjoyed all of it and i was so happy
that vanita got a proper storyline for the first time in several years so yeah what did you think
vanita has learned yeah she's come in with a couple storylines she ended the season she ended the episode
with two, which is pretty good.
Craig and, you know, breaking the girl code.
Yeah, she finally learned, like, it's time to lean into a feud.
So I thought it was all, she's also dating Carl, supposedly.
Have you heard that from somewhere?
Oh, I got my eye on the needle.
So then they like hung out in like the VIP lounge and then they're like,
this is a date, by the way, this comes to a date.
And I'm like, okay.
Normally I do this on a Wednesday, but bravo con is when bravo con is.
So let's do it.
Yeah, so she's out there working for her spot, you know, which is good.
Molly, not Molly, Sally, got all the basic old, old-timey white girl name, Sally and Molly.
Sally is, I was sitting next to someone this weekend and she passed by, she was talking to some guys.
and the girl,
her spray tan is ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
It is dark brown.
It's splotchy.
She's a lot to Sally.
She's a lot.
I'm actually interested to see how she goes off this season
because I have a feeling we're in store
for quite a treat with this one.
Well, as soon as the season began
and Benita and Sally started talking about
how they basically became like best friends
since we last saw them since the reunion.
I was like, oh my God, I'm so excited for their fallout and fight
and the destruction of their entire relationship
because that's literally what has happened every season
on really any reality show.
But did we not just see those two generic blonde girls
whose names I'm suddenly forgetting now go to the same.
Shepp's X and Austin's X.
Remember?
I don't remember that.
Oh, yeah.
Is that funny?
Olivia and the other one.
Olivia had, she.
Yeah.
She canceled her wedding through her press agent.
They released like a whole press release.
Did you see that?
That was pretty funny.
No.
Olivia is sad to inform you that she will no longer be marrying Cracker McCrackerstein or whatever that thing was.
Olivia and Taylor.
Yeah.
Olivia and Taylor.
Yeah.
Olivia and Taylor started this, whatever season that was walking around the park,
talking about how they're just like commiserated over the fact that they both hate their exes and their best friends now.
And then within like three episodes, destroyed.
This one's already one episode.
It's already showing massive cracks.
So, you know, congratulations.
Yeah.
So we open with the main guys, Whitney, Shep, Austin, and Craig having dinner somewhere,
celebrating Austin's birthday.
And Shep's like, whoa, gosh, we've been through ups and downs, mostly ups, but let's toast everybody.
So they toast.
And Austin's like, yeah, well, what I learned is to keep your friends close.
and your enemies closer, right guys, right?
Gosh, enemies, what are you talking about?
Like Russian interference with the Vietnam War,
Ken Burns starting the season strong.
Whoa!
Yeah, are we supposed to be enemies now?
Flash forward.
You manipulated me.
You told me you're an addict and you don't drink anymore,
and now you're the shock king, Craig.
I just made my drinking problem
about him. That's insane, Shep. Austin, nothing I do in my life is about you, buddy.
Oh, yeah, trust me, I know, I know.
Listen, my drinking is about me. I don't try to tear you down.
You're a liar, and everyone knows you're a liar, Craig.
I'm the same person off camera as I am on camera, and that person is a storyteller.
You're a liar. Then we don't need to be friends anymore.
Guess we don't need dessert.
Yeah, Craig is a fucking liar with that whole alcoholism storyline.
That was such like a get out of jail free card.
He's like, I'm an alcoholic.
And then he's continued to be shit-faced every time we've seen him since on this show.
You know, and when Candace Lewand did the same thing, I was like, good for her.
But with Craig, I was like, no.
Because I felt like, we all felt like when Countess Luan had to go sober, it was like, oh, she's obligated to go sober because she got arrested and this is what you have to do.
But Craig was like, no, I'm not hanging out with you because I'm sober now.
And that's why you, it's not because I've got too big for my britches.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not, I'm not too big for my britches.
You actually are toxic for me and you turn me into an alcoholic.
I'm, I'm bettering myself.
And it turns out, oh, you're still drinking.
So it is like you are, you do think you're too big for me.
So like it hits different.
It's also fun to beat up on Craig than it is on Countess Luann.
Let's be honest.
Yeah.
So we go to Sally's house, uh, wackily trying to catch a fly with her.
her bad spray tan. I just can't emphasize enough.
The fly just has to land on her.
The fly just has to land and the fly I'll be like, what?
I can't get off.
It's you put so much of that stuff on you.
You look, you look crazy.
Please stop.
So then we go to Vanita's house and Vanita is also dealing with flies.
So I'm not really sure what we're what we're supposed to take from this.
But Vanita has a fly trap that she needs to get down and throw in the trash.
Yeah.
That's her. I never seen that before.
It was like an exterior fly.
Which, talk about a fool's errands trying to trap all the flies outside.
But she went for it.
And then we go to Craig's house.
Also, it's unfair, don't you think, like to trap flies outside?
Like, where do you want them to go?
I mean, is this just mass murder of flies?
They're allowed to be outside.
I mean, I get protecting your domain, but they're outside.
You can't, it's like just putting bird traps out there.
You can't do that?
It's outside.
That's where they live.
Like, I think it's okay to try to reduce mosquito populations and tick populations,
but the flies are just going to fly.
I mean, they're just,
and I'm sure that flies don't spread amazing things,
but like mosquitoes are the real problem.
Mosquitoes, mosquitoes, and ticks.
I say put out the traps for those.
But like the flies, I mean, why, what are you doing?
Why are you putting a fly drop outside, Benita?
I was very concerned from her right from the beginning,
but I guess we should have known that that was a sign of her giving up on logic.
Like, you know, when you're a reality star,
you don't think logically, you think emotionally and impulsively.
And that's how you get your good storylines.
And this is like a sign that she is no longer using her head.
And that means she'll probably have an interesting season.
Well, in continuing the finding pests in our home, Molly is looking for her snake, which is under an appliance or something.
And she's like, oh, hey, it's just me.
Look at me.
You're going to be much nicer to me when you see I have a mouse.
Oh, wait, the snake has not.
The snake has not escaped yet.
I'm sorry.
The snake is still in its aquarium.
It's just like, you know, kind of snapping at her.
And she's like, okay, don't snap on me.
I've got a dead mouse for you.
The aquarium is the least cluttered area in Molly's new house.
It's just, you know, like looking inside the aquarium, it's like clean and open.
There's all this, it's like an open concept.
But like everything else is chaotic outside that aquarium.
So she drops the mouse in.
It looks the cleanest and it's got a giant log in the middle.
So that mouth, that snake just grabs that mouse.
but that's that snake is going to eat well and then we go to miss patricia's house
whitney whitney and she's continuing continuing with women dealing with pests it's
mr patricia in her house with whitney winnie want to see what i got madison from you
dinga dingin it's a sterling silver riddle waugh dinga dinga dingy randy just comes limping in
he's like what please please i wasn't calling you randy but while you're here here
hand me your finger. No, please, please. That's called an electrical socket, stupid. Go back to
your quarters. The best part about this silver rattles, it bounces off his forehead nice and
cleanly. Like, watch this. Boom. Oh, see, it came right back to my hand. Best thing about this silver
rattle is you could just twist it apart and it's two shanks inside. Randy, come over here. I'm going to
stick a fork in you and see if you're done.
No, please.
Ow!
Works like a charm.
Mother.
Is this for medicine or the baby?
She's like,
for both.
Good.
Haven't you ever been to a baby shower before?
He's like,
no, it's going to be hilarious.
Hygings.
Hygings will ensue.
So we go to Austin driving his car
And he's calling Madison LeCroy
And she's like, hi girl, hi
Just over here getting fat
Homestretch this baby making business
I'm in the third trimester
What are you doing?
He literally goes
Oh what is that?
You can drink wine now?
It's not the third trimester of college
She's not
She's not approaching the end of the school year
No, she's like
What are you talking about? Hell now
It's like, oh I need to get pregnant
So I can get my drinking and check
Yes, that's, that's, yes.
Austin, we all know also would drink while pregnant anyway.
Let's be honest.
So he's like, so what am I supposed to get for your baby shower?
And she's like, well, I'm not nipple cream and that's not bad.
I mean, I suggest corn.
My mom will be there.
As if Austin has any idea what nipple cream is or used for.
So then Madison shows up at Craig's house.
And she's like, well, goddamn, this landscaping.
And so they go in and he just touches her.
her belly is like is it weird to touch someone's belly she's like no I'm not a good pregnant person to be honest anyway he's like well because you have an alien inside of you for real I heard that's how aliens like I was watching that show on earth and they start in your belly so like good luck you have like probably 24 more hours left inside you
I hate every second of being pregnant but we're doing it okay them girls who are like oh I love being pregnant I'm like you're a liar or a sociopath or something nobody loves being pregnant it's ridiculous
I love that. I love that because all my friends hated being pregnant. Literally no one was happy. They all were miserable. And so whenever someone's like, I just love it, I'm like, I feel like you're lying to me right now. Yeah. I feel like you are so upset, but you have to pretend to be happy because, you know, it's for your family. But like, I know you hate it. I know you hate it. Yeah, it's trying to be positive in a just a not positive situation. I love it. It's amazing. I can't sleep. I've got a hemorrhoid the size of a head coming out of me. This is a.
Amazing.
So they sit outside and she sees some sort of painting or an easel or some sort of set up.
She's like, who are you?
Bob Ross too?
And he goes, oh, the painting.
That's a remnant of the past page used to sit out here in my bathing suit.
Okay.
So you didn't take it.
Like this is so Craig to leave up the things that way anytime he has like a lemonade with someone outside.
Oh my God.
What is that?
You know what's so funny, Ronnie?
Orkin just arrived.
It's like they knew what we were talking about.
Orkin is out there killing the mosquitoes.
Do you hear that noise?
Guess who was just out here today?
Orkin this morning.
Really?
What a tie-in?
Yes.
What?
Are we Orkin twins?
Seriously.
And I had to reschedule them for next week because they were going to do the inside.
And they said I had to be gone for two hours.
I was like, I'm not doing that.
And they said it's a California law.
I was like, really?
Because in Texas, they will literally spray me if I'm laying on the couch.
And he's like, yeah, you have to leave.
So they have to come back, but he did the outside.
Wow, we're having an Oregon day.
It's a real, like, it was like they knew we're talking about pests.
They're right outside this window doing their mosquito treatment, which is, because, you know, in Los Angeles, you get mosquitoes like until, like, December.
But anyway, what I was saying is, of course, Craig leaves all of pages painting tools and stuff up.
So that way, anytime someone comes outside and hangs out and has, like, a lemonade, he can be like,
Yeah, that's pages. She left me. How I was such a good boyfriend. I provided her with an easel and canvases that way she could paint. And then she, in return, she left me. This may look like a painting of a pool, but it's actually a painting of my heartbreaking. And also, we don't see the painting, which is super bizarre. I rewind it three times. Like, did I miss it? But I went through frame by frame and they won't show it. Like, are you afraid of getting sued? His page is going to be like, you cannot show that. That is he.
my art. So, yeah, that's my art. That's property of Gagley Squad. Sorry.
I need not give you permission. It was probably a painting that said, someone saved me.
So I hope you guys are ready for the Craig. It's a victim season, because here we go. He's like,
I was betrayed by the person I loved the most in this world. Yourself? Get out of here.
You were betrayed. Did you watch your own TV show? It was all there. It was all there. We all
saw it.
Jeez.
So we see a clip of them laying out
in the sun and him being like,
hey, let's hang out for two years and then
like get married and stuff.
And she's like, okay.
God, I can't believe it didn't work out.
Betrayal.
It's so thick.
So Matt's like, how are you feeling?
Be honest.
He's like, well, it's been a journey.
I will say I've hit a level of sadness.
That's not depression based
because it's more bummer based
because I never did anything
to deserve becoming a villain in her story.
but she needs the villain.
The only thing I did to become a villain was just do villainous things.
But other than that, I really wasn't a villain.
All I really did was lie and say that she didn't give me a month and a half of advance notice
and breaking up with me to save my feelings in the press,
then to turn around and make it look like she'd been cheating on me the whole time in the press.
No bigs.
Well, super bummer based.
So then we see clips of page saying that she believes that Craig never bought that ring in the first place.
and Madison's like, well, I feel bad for the guy.
I mean, in his mind, he believes she was his wife.
And, you know, I think he's just so hurt.
He just doesn't know how to explain what his feeling because that requires, like, words.
They just hadn't learned yet.
Poor guy.
She's like, I'm so proud of you.
He's like, I started to see someone else.
And we met in the Bahamas six years ago.
And I guess it's Natalie.
I'm surprised they didn't show a clip of Natalie with her big laugh.
That was like her whole thing.
She didn't even say anything the one season.
since she was on. She would just show up and laugh.
Wait, I'm sorry. Who? We've seen her on the show.
Natalie. Isn't that the same Natalie? Remember the, but the girl he was dating before
Paige, wasn't that Natalie in COVID the COVID season and in quarantine?
Oh, really? Natalie Buffett? I don't recognize this girl. I'm looking at her Instagram right now.
She looks like Naomi actually kind of. Natalie Buffett. Summer's over and I'm upset.
And then her picture is like this.
Maybe not.
I'm very sad.
Maybe it isn't the same.
Let's see.
Craig and Natalie's Southern Charm.
Maybe it's a different one.
No, I think it's the same one.
Someone told me the dress comes before the man or something like that.
She's modeling wedding dresses.
Very pretty, whoever she is.
So, yeah, that's her.
So he's like, yeah, I mean, I wasn't really ready.
So, you know, it's not fair to her.
But, like, you know, she made.
me feel whole again. And then once I felt whole again, I was like, whoa, I'm not into this
anymore. And I was just lonely and I didn't know how to be with myself. So I rushed into the first
person I ran into Natalie Buffett. They always say the way to feel whole again is to get into a
hole again. Yeah. Well, that ran have two girlfriends. Just don't call them girlfriends. Just say
you're entertaining girls. He's like, yeah, but like people say you have three.
Three great loves.
I had the first one, Naomi, and then the second love was page.
So I'm just holding on to that until the third one comes by.
I'm nervous, because I'm 37.
Did I age out?
She's like, no, no, no, no, no, because you still got Shep around.
So now we got the Shep at a store.
And there's a lady, he's like in this, like, baby store.
And the lady's like, hello, what can we help you with, sir?
we're in the middle of putting more poca dots onto our southern dresses so
please hurry up have so many dots it's like they did have that attitude too they're like
excuse me what would you like in our store sir they were looking at him like he was fucking
crazy there was what are you doing here the bar is down that way sir
of course i don't have a baby but somewhere i know is having a baby and he's the ex-boyfriend
of the one who's married so it's kind of funny right they're like um awkward why would he
talk like that. We don't talk like that in baby stores. Okay, well, I don't need help, but now I'll
peruse. Like, he walks away and the lady mutters, so awkward. He's that I don't buy gifts for
unborn babies. I don't even buy gifts for weddings. I'm not buying you silverware. That's your
problem. So he's like, he's looking at a stroller that like folds and he's like,
Wow, it folds. This is crazy. And Austin comes in. He's like, wow, gosh, we won't have to worry
about this for at least nine months. So Shep says, my dating life, well, it's active. I get excited
easily, but disappointment soon follows. As Doth goes to happiness, so Doth goes to disappointment,
says Shakespeare in one of his plays. I've learned a thing or two. Age range. It's increased to 27 now.
Gosh. Gross.
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I know when Craig was saying, have I aged out?
What are you worrying about aging out?
You're never going to be dating older girls anyway.
It doesn't matter what age you guys are.
You're still going to be dating 25-year-olds.
I don't know why you're worried about your age.
Yeah.
I mean, the track record on this show is pretty grim.
Thomas Ravenel, Whitney, Shep.
I mean, that's probably what Craig is thinking.
He's like, oh, no, am I going to be.
just like those guys, probably yes.
Yeah, but with more pillows.
So Austin's like, I think I'm going to this thing.
So what are you going to do?
And he tells us that him and Audrey are coming up on a year and a half of dating.
I still do not believe it.
I will not believe it.
I mean, I think they are dating.
I think he's just constantly cheating.
I mean, it's such a perfect setup for a guy on this show to have a girlfriend an hour and a half away that you only see a couple times a month.
you know he's set himself up for life yes we see a flashback of one of their dates and she's like
i had that traffic coming down here i'm like over it so it's like she's like fishing for him to say
why don't you move in she's like i'm so sick at the traffic yeah she lives in charlotte charlotte
but like we try to see each other three to five times a month and it works out for us because
it makes it makes me crazy when people say are you getting married are you having kids are you
moving in because like we haven't talked about any of this and like we're good chill out chill out
I'm like, is the person asked you those questions, Audrey?
Because you might want to think hardly more, whatever, right?
I'll just finish it there.
So Shep finds a wooden horse and he's like, oh my gosh, this wooden horse is cute.
Shirley, this is cheap.
50 bucks!
What the heck, 150 bucks for a horse?
Garsh!
Oh, shut up, Shep, as if you care.
It shocks me how fucking cheap, chef.
is Mr. Trust Fund, Mr. Boykin himself, Mr. Monopoly in Charleston form, Mr. has a bit of money around.
I love when Austin tries to be witty, like, when he tries to sort of act like Whitney.
He starts making, it's like, Mr. Boykin himself.
Like, okay, Austin, settle down.
Whoa, whoa, I found something for $45. It's a picture frame.
Yay.
Cheapass.
So he decides on a big teddy,
Austin picks a big teddy bear.
And he's like,
Cory Kiefer's texting me.
He said Craig invited him to the baby shower.
Gosh, tell me about L.A.
It looked fun, Austin.
He's like, oh, it was very much like I'm a normal dude
hanging out with friends.
But, you know, we were at the bar
and Craig had like a shot,
like multiple shots.
It's insane right now.
So now I wonder about this whole,
like, I'm not drinking so much thing.
And we see a clip of them together hanging out in L.A. somewhere.
And, um, uh, and Austin's telling him to just, like, chill and, well, it's a clip of when
Austin was like, can't you just chill out and just have a couple of drinks?
And Craig's like, no, I can't do that because like, I'm an alcoholic.
You don't understand what it's like when you're alcohol.
You can't do that.
A couple of drinks when he was wasted, by the way.
I like that he did his whole alcoholic speech thing while he was wasted after yelling at everybody on a beach.
So Austin's like, well, I'm like, well, I'm.
I'm not judging. It's just guilty, guilty, you know.
I mean, I think he was, he was saying, oh, Shep was saying, well, I think he was just trying to say that, you know, his attitude was bigger than just your relationship.
It wasn't you. It was the alcohol.
Well, as long as Craig doesn't turn into drunk dickhead, Craig, then I'm here for the single Craig energy.
So Shep says, well, he was very much, like, so neat to, like, calibrate his new normal because he alienated us because Paige was his best friend.
And he put all his eggs in that basket.
A fake basket that didn't even mean anything from the day one.
And then the basket fell and the basket got a lot of likes.
And now look, insincere basket with insincere eggs broken everywhere.
We have to pick up the pieces.
And now we can't even have an alma because Steve Bage broke the basket.
It's like, uh, chef, you know, the scene's still happening.
Oh, gosh.
Sorry about that.
No, a broken eggs on the floor.
So I immediately called Taylor.
I said, what are you fucking stupid?
That's not I play.
egg choss.
So now we go over to Molly's new house and she's looking for something under the dishwasher
and she's like, oh, are you going to help me look for my corn snake doggy?
Oh, I Googled it and they hide under appliances.
So then we find out that Molly is a new reptile mom because someone was rehoming their gecko
and their corn snake cornholio and so she took them.
And so now she has three cats, a dog, a gecko, and a corn snake.
Yep
And so she doesn't know where the snake is
So she's going to lure the snake out with a mouse
So she takes out one of her frozen mice
And she's about to like place it somewhere
She sort of has it in Tupperware
But then there's a knock at the door
So she has to kind of like
She puts in the Tupperware
Roderigo comes in
He's horrified
He hasn't even seen the mouse yet
He's horrified. It's just clutter
And he's like I am a gay man
And I'm not used to this much clutter
I live with a male
Ina garden who keeps my house
in perfect condition
and this is against my entire aesthetic
what am I doing here? Am I really shooting a scene
in this place? Oh my God, there's a frozen mouse.
Yeah, so he comes over
with flowers and he's like, well, I thought
I'd bring one more thing to pile up in here.
God, it really is a fucking mess.
Did you find the snake?
What is that a dead mouse? What are you doing?
She's like, I'm throwing out the mouse to lure him.
He's like, okay. Well, I want
to ask her and be, say, like,
happiness starts at home, bitch.
your house please please don't have gays over until you've cleaned your house and she goes yeah well i
carved out a path to places that i go too often so like a order you're saying it's like a order
right she's like well i moved into a house that's a thousand feet less you know i'm a minimal
minimalist if i have room oh what's that my euphonium tiny tuba what about this um
it's my thousands of shark teeth she actually
a box full of shark teeth, which is, I thought she was joking when she was talking about
shark teeth last, last season with the ship. Yeah, he's like, so, yeah, how's your, how's your
relationship with relationship? She's like, oh my God, stop. I think that exploring that made me
realize, like, what I don't want. Yeah. And I'm fine with that. He goes, okay, yeah, so why don't
you just get more pets? That would be great. How about maybe you could get some organization or
boyfriend or gerbils.
How about a giraffe?
How about a giraffe?
You want a fucking rhino in your house?
Jesus.
You know,
woman?
You know,
it's a great,
you know,
it's a great pet.
Um,
it's a,
it's a very unique animal called 1-800 got junk.
And,
uh,
I think you'll really love that pet.
Why don't we,
why don't we get one for you,
huh?
So then we go over to Vanita and she's going to Hill House boutique.
I love a boutique that's named after a haunted house.
That's great.
Um,
Vanita.
Uh,
We're going to
Avenueville
Horror Boutique.
Yeah. This is the
Laura Ashley dressed based on the
woman who drowned in Michelle Pfeiffer's
Lake.
Are you guys going to be,
did you guys see the new summer fashions
they have at Elm Street
boutique?
I just want you to try
this on. It is half burnt up
because this woman was chased through
a living nightmare. You're going to
love it.
After this, why don't we go just see what they have at
Atelier Camp Crystal Lake? I think it's
going to be just like, I think they've got some cool summer fashions.
You may recognize this dress.
It looks a little young for you, but it was
worn by the doll and it's idiotous.
So, let's go ahead and put that on.
So they try on some clothes
and talk about how they've become best friends
now. And Sally's like, yeah, I
helped her through so much JT stuff.
And I don't approve of that relationship
because I know what kind of guy he is
and I just don't like him.
Yeah, and so this is, now Vinita's gonna,
Vanita now tells the story of her and JT,
which is great because it gives the Southern Charm Orchestra
a chance to do their favorite thing,
which is to play that music that's like,
don, don, don't, don't, don't, don, don't, don't,
where it's like, it's like, here's what happened.
And as it approaches the climax, they always do that thing
with like a xylophone, where it's like,
doong, dong, dong, dong, dong, dong, dong, dong,
they love doing that.
So, Vanita is like, well, after that night in New York,
he came to my room,
until 5 a.m. And he said he wanted, you know, he's like, oh, I want to be with you. I want to be with
you. So I hope we could potentially date, but he blocked me. And then he disappeared off the face
of the earth. I'm like, he didn't disappear. You just forgot to look down. You would have seen him.
This is so her though. Yeah. After the reunion, 5 a.m. It was so great. Thought we were going to be
together. And then he blocked me. This is so a Vanita story ending, you know. So I was like,
yeah, and I was there for her. And Vanita says she wouldn't stop calling
me and then it turned into hanging out every day and then texting every day and now it's just
blossomed into this beautiful friendship which surely is going to last for seasons and seasons
so they try on various dresses and sallie's like so the baby showers boys and girls obviously
craig's gonna be there how do you feel about it and so the producer says what happened with
crag blow by blow what happened vina so she says okay blow one Craig is a bitch and we see
watch happens live where it's like
Hey, what about Vanita saying she's on Craig said?
I won't be associated with her.
I'm like, to be fair, you barely associated with her in the first place.
I don't think any of you guys even realized she was on your show until like maybe right this moment.
Yeah, I mean, other than saving her from drowning that one time, I don't even think you noticed she was there.
I don't think you never interact with her.
So she goes on Nick Files show and he's saying, you know, do you think Craig should let everyone know what page or what page is or isn't doing?
meaning, like, was she having an affair?
Was she not having an affair?
What were all these rumors?
And she goes, yeah, I mean, speak your truth.
And he goes, but what if he doesn't know?
And she goes, then stop acting like, you know.
And they're like, ooh, ooh.
So she basically went and stood up for page.
And Craig didn't like it.
And he said, she's just regurgitating internet gossip.
And then we even see a TikTok.
The moment Vanita found out that Craig will no longer associate himself with her watch,
with her.
And it's a watch party with all the girls.
And he's like, yeah, I'm not friends with her.
And they're like,
Oh, no more free pillows.
So she goes, well, I consciously made the decision to text Paige over Craig because who do I have a strong relationship with?
Page.
Who actually has a trajectory and fashion page?
Who actually has acknowledged my presence at least once in the past four years?
Page.
Sorry.
Yeah, I got some pajamas out of it.
What's that man ever given me other than my life?
So Sally's like.
well I can see both sides
which is where you know you're in trouble
uh-oh she's like he probably
expected all his friend group to have his back
and she's like all I said is
if you don't know she's out there cheating on you
then stop saying she's out there cheating on you
yeah
so Sally is like it's okay
Vinita we support you
he supports you you pick the winning horse in this
one so Sally is like I just
thought it was weird that she took his side
because if you have a friend that brought
someone into the friend group
and they break up, you stick with the person in the friend group.
She has no relationship with Craig.
She's actually, I don't think she's obligated.
Yes, Craig saved her from drowning, but if she was also truly drowning someone else,
like he was just the first one to get there, I think.
But I think Vanita, I think Venita should totally go with Paige.
It's just a smart thing to do.
Vanita's a fashion influencer.
You stick with Paige.
Craig is like, Craig doesn't pay her any mind anyway.
There's no difference in their relationship this season than there was last season.
I mean, I think it was probably wrong of her because you're in a show together.
You're on the same cast.
And, you know, it's kind of unfair that they all have to go on these other shows and opine about this shit anyway.
Like, that's unfair that she would even have to have an opinion.
It's not her relationship.
But they do ask, I mean, I guess if you're on the same show with someone that I think to do would be to stick behind your people.
Like, Summer House all stuck behind page right away.
But, you know, obviously, they'd seen a lot of Craig's dushy behavior, too.
So I could see how Craig would be annoyed, but.
Oh, I can see 100% how he would be annoyed because I think what Sally is saying, I get that, you know, like she brought, he brought page down into their circle.
And then all of a sudden, Vinita's taking page aside.
And that's true.
But, like, at the same time, you know, Vinita's her own person and she doesn't really have much of relationship with Craig.
And Craig's always been condescending to Vinita, to be honest.
So I say Vanita's well within her right.
And I'm just asking this because I don't remember, but, and not to be like argumentative.
But wasn't Paige the one who was always nice to Vanita out of everybody?
Always.
Page was always nice to Vanita.
No, Craig is nice to Vanita.
Oh, Craig?
No, I think, well, Craig may have been nice.
I think, I think they were nice to Vanita, but I don't think that they were, I don't think that they were ultimately very welcoming.
I think that, like, you see him make greater overtures to someone like Madison than to someone like Vanita.
And I seem to remember, like, Craig was being addicted to Vanita last season towards the end of it.
Like, I seem to remember there was some dinner party where, like, be quiet, Vanita.
But this is just in my memory.
I don't know if this was actually factual.
I just think that, like, I don't know.
I am so team page that I just will do any mental work around to support anyone who supports me.
I mean, believe it or not, I actually like Craig too.
I actually do like Craig.
But I think in this situation, I think I'm totally on page's side.
And that's just, that's just the way it is.
Bruce Horn's.
Yeah.
So Sally's like, well, I'm mad at her and you didn't do anything wrong.
And he just dumped the friendship.
And that's not fair.
So I want you to be friends.
And I want you to be friends because we're on the same show together.
And we should all be friends because we're in a group.
I'm on a show.
And I don't want to be friends with you and then not be able to film with anybody because you,
you're not getting along with the lead of the show.
So.
Yeah.
And Vinita's like, okay, well, if I have a conversation with him and it doesn't go well,
and she's like, oh, fight him for you.
Don't you worry.
Yeah.
Did Craig maybe defend Vanita against JT?
Maybe that was something that happened last season.
I don't know.
I mean, like, if it anything, like, I don't remember anything past August of 2025.
So, you know, I'll need some help on this one.
But I sort of have a vague memory of that.
He did.
But he was also coming for J.T.
so hard the whole year.
and she's trying to date JT, you know.
It was convenient.
It was filled his larger battle against JT.
So yeah,
as opposed to really sticking up for Vanita, maybe.
Yeah, I don't know.
So then Patricia's house,
they're getting ready for the baby shower.
It's one hour till.
Don't want the table there.
God, I'll get that plan off of it.
It looks silly.
I don't want people coming over here and saying,
Patricia's just a random plant placer.
The hell's wrong with you.
Do you want another moment in this town?
I've got a van waiting right outside these gates to take you away.
If you're so dead sad on having an inanimate object in the middle of that path and just get Randy to stand there, okay?
Because I'm not having that plant on that table.
Okay.
Oh, don't put that there.
That looks like it could blow over just like me, am I right?
Laugh at that, Randy.
Laugh.
Shut up, Randy.
I said laugh earlier.
not now. Oh, thank you, swan delivery. These swans look like cheap prostitutes. Can we please fix
the lays on the swan? Bring them here. I'll do it myself. They're tacky. Put the lays lower and
make them bigger. What is there some sort of northern necklace? Come on. Let's make it look pretty.
There's more sloppy lays on those swans than I see in the cast. Okay. That's just not going to
work for me.
So people are
setting up and Craig and Corey
show up and Whitney's like
what's up man?
It's been a minute. Whoa.
Do you guys work out together? I mean, look at you fucking
beef brothers.
We see some flashbacks
in here because Corey starts to
anyone who didn't see Winter House or Summer
House. Craig's like Corey and I
have been best friends since we went to
to Kappa Singh together in college
and most people will tell you
even Whitney even Whitney will say it like no one saw one of us without the other ever it's like
really funny if you think about it but like the funny part is like you guys never see me with him
but like truth is like we're always together so it's like funny because we're like always together
and we see flashbacks and we see like Corey back in the winterhouse days he was definitely like
a little beefier and he was like he had he was just like a frat boy he just looked like a frat boy
but now now that he has like some announce of fame we saw the last bravo con he showed up looking
Cray, Cray. He had like that orange suit
right and the glasses. So he's
grown his hair out. He has the little
same haircut as Benson Boone.
He looks
legitimately crazy now.
I'm like, you're going to look back at this someday.
Like, why did I wear this on TV?
He's just so gross. He's so
ducy and gross. Just be a frat boy.
Don't try to be like a hipster
right now. Just be a frat boy. Just be what you
are. Yeah. It's like
get a butterfly tattoo on his chest or
some shit you know he's going to remember when he was wearing pearl necklaces oh yeah he's wearing
so cry hard oh so Craig has gifts and um we see a flashback to Craig giving a teddy bear to
Cameron and her being oh my god Craig what is this you're so stupid look everybody look at the
stupid ugly gift Craig gave me loser trying to sell stuff uh so it still was funny it's still funny to
me. I mean, honestly. So Sally and Tyler show up. Tyler is Rodriguez's boyfriend and Molly's
there with Rodriguez. They all show up. And then Shep and Austin arrived with this teddy bear. They
get this big giant expensive teddy bear and they just throw it on the ground sitting there
collecting various ticks and mosquitoes that were not collected by the attempts at pest regulation
by this cast. Um, and chef was like, gosh, this bear is intrusive. Gosh, it's everywhere.
So Craig goes to say hi to Austin and he's like, yeah.
Well, after the breakup, Austin and Shep were extremely supportive.
It's just like really cool to hang out with my friends again.
And Madison and Brett and Hudson show up.
Hudson is like really, Hudson's now like entering tweendom and it's like really strange to see.
He's like a little man now.
And Rodrigo and Brett have the same shirt.
So they love that.
And Austin is like, God.
Huh.
I love that.
you have a watermelon in your address.
That's amazing.
It's hilarious.
That's my joke because you're pregnant.
Do you get it, Madison?
Craig's had an alien.
Well, watermel's bad.
This is insane right now.
Why would you do the alien thing?
You knew I was going to do the watermelon bit.
Hmm.
So then Vanita and Love arrived.
And Craig's mad that he sees Vanity.
He's like, uh-oh.
And Vanita wants to say hi to Madison,
but she won't because Craig is over there.
And so Rodriguez like,
kill it with kindness.
Kill it with kindness, bitch.
Go over there.
Do it.
She's like, I'm not going out of my way.
I'm not.
So she tells us that she's terrified of Craig's temper.
It's scary.
I've seen it.
I've seen Craig yell at Naomi.
I saw him yell at Leva.
I've seen him yell at JT.
He's a certified asshole and he's not someone I'm willing to go to bat with, which I don't blame you.
And you're not wrong.
You went on all those podcasts.
So I think at some point you're going to have to.
Well, listen, I also think he has a temper.
and I think that he does the
I'm just like sweet Craig
I think that's like an act
but that being said like hey you're on a reality show
get in there come on come on Vanita
you're doing well so far
so then Rod and Vanita go over
and they say hi to Madison's or Craig's like
I'm walking away
just like Paige did to me
I'm betrayed
and he's like just say hi to Vanita
and he says why I don't like her I don't fuck with her
okay that's it
so he tells us that Vanita said he was
oh no he tells us
yeah he says to us like she said i was enjoying my breakup reveling and all the attention i was
getting from it and dragging it on because i didn't want it to end i mean it's not a bad call on
her part you really were like that yeah you started this with i've been betrayed
i know you said i've been betrayed by the personal i love most of my love i've been so betrayed
anyone that would say that is clearly not my friend
Here comes one right now.
So Molly shows up.
She found her snake, by the way.
The snake was just hanging out on the staircase.
And then Patricia shows up and, you know,
Matt's like, I want these pink up here round.
She's like, yeah.
Hey, I like Hudson.
He's so cute.
Does he want to be a butler someday?
Because guess what?
There may be an opening soon.
You did a good job with that one.
Here.
Hey, Hudson, put your finger.
in these halls.
Wait a minute.
That's an electrical socket.
Your kid's too smart to be a butler.
Randy, come over here and show him.
I had to do it.
So yeah, Madison's like,
she's just worried because Hudson turned out so well,
but the second kid is always
the one that goes all over the place.
You know, so, you know.
So Madison's mom, her mom and her sister come,
Casey and Tara, the Born for Corn Brigade.
And then Kred's like,
We should have a party after this and the lair, Whitney's Lair.
So we see shots of Whitney's Lair, his black room in his mama's house.
And then Shep's like, wow, I'm here for the new Craig.
He wants to party again.
Yeah, well, I'm starting to remember who I was before I was brainwashed in my last relationship
by a woman, an evil brainwashing woman.
I was confident.
I was good at hanging out with girls.
Remember everybody?
you were also jamming butternives into walls
and on Adderall
I don't remember you being particularly good
at hanging out with girls in any season of this show
it's been on a decade sir
so he's like yeah
you know I just have a huge void to fill
so I'm partying and I'm using girls
and so then everyone's talking about how good
Craig's look and Sally's like wow
God really blessed him with that hair
cheese
and Rodd
I was like, I know. Well, he is single now, Sally. She goes, yeah, but I'm a girl's girl to the death with V. She's my best friend. We got that on camera, right? Okay, I don't have to keep on saying that, right? Okay, good. I don't want how to do it anymore. Tyler's like, this is Southern Charm. There's always wiggle room, girl. So now shots. Everybody's doing shots. And Molly's like, I can't do shots because I have, like, a band concert later.
So, Corey's like, band concert. That's hilarious.
So Molly's like, yeah, I play a miniature tuba.
It's called a euphonium.
Shut the fuck up.
A miniature trombone.
I want to come back to this.
She's like, no, miniature tuba.
Do you know what a tuba is?
I think I need to hear the sound of a tuba.
How do you play it?
Sir, if you do not know what it,
you are not going to know what a tuba is based on the sound of it.
I guarantee you, how does this man not know what a tuba is?
This guy is the biggest idiot.
I always thought he was an idiot, but I've never been more.
I've never been more in awe of his idiocy than him declaring on TV that he doesn't know what a tuba is.
Yeah.
He's like, how do you play the tuba?
And she's like, you spit like this.
He's like, so you basically just imitate Austin?
Yeah.
Yeah, Corey's like a huge flirt.
But like, I mean, I guess he's ha, like in a fuck boy kind of a way.
So, would I come over to your house tonight?
Are you going to play the trumpet or the trombone?
Like, sir, she literally plays a miniature tuba.
She never said trumpet or trombone.
You are going to make me strackling you through the TV.
You've done a lot of bad things on these shows before,
but this may be the thing that gets that this is going to put me over the edge with you.
And she says, I'm going to make you hold my snake.
And he's like, that's not happening.
You can hold my snake, though.
Is it like a coral snake?
No, it's an alconda.
Yeah, it's very feisty.
Molly goes, ooh, she tells us, ooh, wow, shiny, toxic fuck boy.
Like, my therapy's not working well if I think this is who is cute.
I'm like, yep, you said it.
You said it, not me.
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
So Madison's like, oh, I love them together.
Wow.
A snake and a snake handler looks good.
And Craig's like, yeah, I knew Corey would like her.
And Sally's fun, but she ain't your type, right?
I mean, don't you generally like girls who are smarter than you?
and more ambitious than you, et cetera, et cetera.
He's like, no, I think she's beautiful.
I mean, Sally would probably have a lot of fun together with me.
Well, who knows, though?
So then he tells Sally that they want to have an afterparty in the lair.
And he's like, yeah, let's just do it at the lair, okay?
The lair.
We have to stop calling it the lair.
Like, you put all that money into making this, like, mid-century rat pack paradise,
but you keep on calling it the lair.
I feel like, can we call it the smoking room?
We call it the lounge, but the Blair just feels like something really bad and illegal is going to happen.
And that'll cause the premature cancellation of Southern Charm.
So let's just call it the lounge going forward.
Yeah, I mean, it's a lot nicer than just saying it's the shed in my mom's backyard.
You're right.
That is a better rebrand, the backyard shed.
So then Rodrigo goes up to Vinita.
He's like, so how are you feeling?
Because when I said to Craig, let's go say hi to Vanita, he said, why would I do that?
I wish at this point he would just like let go of that pettiness that he's behind because he's like behind the whole fracture.
And it's like, well, he made the decision that whatever happened between us stayed petty when he verbalized and he stated out loud, I don't like her.
So then Sally's asking Craig how he is with Vanita and he's like, I almost didn't calm.
Like I couldn't eat her sleep for a month, okay?
Oh, how dare you?
Yes, I'm sure Craig was so upset about Vanita that he's.
he just had he could barely muster the strength eat something oh please Greg please oh he almost
didn't come to to the first big group scene of the season because of vanita oh my god this guy
and so vanita's like well he could have tried to talk to me about it instead of just saying
i don't associate myself with her and so now we see people parting and cheering for the new baby
and let's see
Madison is
oh the other Madison sighting I see
I was like Madison we've already seen
Madison it's the Gwen's Madison
I was very excited I needed to point out
that I did see Gwyn's Madison
in the background I was only excited
because one of my favorite aspects of Southern charm
is like the Simpsonsesque size of this cast
that's so huge and you see someone in the background
It's like seeing Moe in the background of a scene or like or Edna Crabopal RIP somewhere.
I'm like, look, it's Gwins.
Gwins is back there.
So I just wanted to point out.
He's like, Barney.
He's like, blah.
So then Austin's talking about Audrey living in Charlotte.
And he's like, yeah, it's good.
It's good.
So I can really focus on things that need my attention, all of the nothing I do all day.
So to say, it's good.
It's all good.
So to say.
What are you talking about?
You do nothing.
Drop hop you sell in like the one to Harris Teeter that has taken pity on you that's around the corner.
And you're doing nothing all day except getting into a golf cart and going to a bar.
That's so to say.
It needs my attention, certain, say.
Oh, hey, Craig, did you go out last night?
He's like, no, I stayed in and finished your present.
I didn't know how to package it.
So I'm just going to give it to you.
Oh, my God.
It's a quilt.
Yeah.
I made it like out of all of my cum socks off the floor.
It's been a really rough month.
hope you like it i didn't i almost didn't it was a miracle that i finished this i was so weak
from not eating because i was so sad about vanita wait a minute Craig is over there opening gifts on
a sidewalk that is tacky that is tacky i love patricia calling everything tacky this episode
like the the size of the necklace on the inflatable on inflatable swan that's tacky
it needs to be a sophisticated sophisticated inflatable swan wears a lot
So Madison is touched by this, this quilt. And he's like, yeah, each square has a different
meaning. This one is how betrayed I felt by Paige. And this other one is how hard I cried
because Paige made me cry. And this other one is a painting that Paige made when we were still
in love. By the way, I'm sorry, it's exed out, but I don't have the rights to show it on this
quilt. Wait, this square, this represents a piece of chicken that I
really wanted to eat, but I just couldn't
eat because of a venita. So the
chicken went to waste and was really sad.
That's what that swear means.
Yeah, I've been in Missouri learning to quilt the last
few weeks. So this is the first
one I did by myself. I'm like, oh my God,
I love the stitching. We see him
using a machine.
She's like, great stitching, Craig.
Please tell me you did not
take a presidency at the McBee family
farm to learn how to quilt. It's like, I was
in Missouri.
get your bed and put it inside there now you got yourself a quilt so when everyone was out parting
this is what i did last night she's like oh my god i just keep on out shining them craig you do just keep
on he is such a bullshit artist i love that like even everyone was partying except for me i was
inside being betrayed and crying for the women who were so mean to me so i had to make a quilt
oh my god the way he's the way he just tries so so blatantly elicit sympathy is hilarious to me
yeah so now it's time to get gifts so molly's like uh-oh we're missing the gifts and corey says
oh are you trying to arrest me you can put handcuffs on me just cuff me and put him in the back
for the car yeah you just touched my butt hey someone she just touched my butt
so molly because now molly is drunk and she's like oh god i'm late for band we're supposed to
to do a performance.
He's like, well, what are you supposed to be there?
She's like 15 minutes ago.
Oh.
So then she texts, she texts like the band leader.
He goes, are you going to hate me if I don't come?
And the guy goes, probably.
Or I guess is everyone going to hate me?
Molly, it's a performance.
You can't just like, the euphonium is central to any piece of classical music.
We all know that.
Mozart was basically like, I wish I could play the euphonium, but I can't.
So I'll just have to compose this music.
That's well known.
you can't leave you can't just like you can't just stand up your your performance yeah what's a what's
an orchestral night without hearing i mean come on molly you can't do fur at least without the
without the instrument that actually makes the fr sound so she starts crying and she's like
i ticked around and so now i can't go and i just feel bad i let them down they're never
going to let me back in there they're going to be so mad i mean they're going to have to do a
search for another euphonium player because there's not many but still she's like blowing her
nose loudly she's like literally making euphonium noises with her nose i was like core is like
i do not want to fuck you now so this is disgusting you skipped euphonium day for me and i'm not
going to touch you so good luck molly molly returning for her second season as a hoarder with a snake on the
loose crying over missing her orchestral performance is exactly what she needed to do and she
is already sprinted out to being the one to watch for season 11.
So we go open presents and Shep has bought a gift and he's like, look, it's called there are moms that are way worse than you.
I wish I could read that, but I'm so tired from staying in working on my quilt all night that I can't even keep my eyes open to look at the book.
Sorry, everyone.
Oh, I hope you like my gift.
That came from England.
It's done by a dress designer
that does the Princess of Wales's
children. It's really funny
because they have these little
sweaters and they say, I'm
still part of the family. Not
like stupid. And then they point
just in case they're by Megan and Harry's
kids. Very, very
good stuff.
Oh, Craig,
you just spilled on the fancy.
So then
Tyler and Rigo. This is funny.
Tyler, Rodrigo's like, okay, this is just open.
It is very special.
And Tyler, Rodrigo has painted a picture of a teddy bear.
And it's in, and this is important.
We didn't talk about this, but Teddy is the name of Madison's father, her late father, who just passed.
So Teddy, Teddy bears, it's all very meaningful to her.
So it made a nice little painting.
And he presented it in this like hideous gold circus.
frame. Like it was from like 1763.
I was like, what is happening here? And he's like, here it is. It's my, it's my painting of a teddy
bear. And they start crying. And I was like, uh, okay. I guess not every frame on this show.
I think like, I don't think they sell other kind of picture frames in that town.
It's just how it is. Like Rococo. Yeah. So then Molly's still crying at the bar. She's like,
oh, my God. Like, I'm sorry. I'm saying, I'm sob to you. But like, like,
It was really important for my euphonium today.
I didn't just let the band down.
I let down my euphonium.
And Corey's just like, ugh, gross.
The bartender's just, at this point, she's just crying to the bartender.
Corey's already just gotten out of there.
The bartender's like, hey, bartenders are a therapist too.
Am I right?
You know?
And Sally says, are you crying?
And she's like, I don't know.
I'm just upset because I skipped my concert for this.
So I was like, no, you made the right decision.
Don't you worry.
Okay, I'm going to go talk to Craig.
Hey, Craig.
He's like, hey, girl.
Shall we go to the bunk house?
Let's go there.
Let's go to the after party since I didn't get to party last night since I was up so late making a quilt.
She's like, well, I'm going to check on Vanita because I got girl code now.
Okay, we're going to try that for the first episode of the season.
So Vanita, we needed to talk to Craig.
She's like, no.
She goes, but I'm ready.
And she goes, but I'm not ready.
She goes, but you got to be the bigger person.
She's like, but I'm always the bigger person.
And I don't want to do that.
Okay, he can come to my house.
So Leva's like, he's never going to come around.
Don't even try.
And she's, Leva's like, look, he's going to agree to do it, but then he'll never do it.
She was like, yeah, he will.
No, he won't.
No, but then he's going to look so bad.
I don't think Craig has ever been concerned about looking bad.
So now we go into the lair.
So Austin shows up.
So, so, so one says, and then bourbon, everyone's drinking bourbon.
And Craig is having a big pour of pappy because, which.
And he's, like, pouring a giant glass of pappy for Craig.
And he goes, when he's like, well, try this pappy.
It's so smoothed this.
Smooth this brain.
So Vinita's outside.
And she's like, well, I don't want to speak to Craig because I'm afraid he's going to yell at Madison's baby shower.
And that's the last thing I want.
And Sally's like, well, why don't you wait till the after party?
So it's not Madison's baby shower.
And she's like, wait, there's an after party?
And she's like, oh, my God, does nobody else know about this?
We're going to Whitney's Lair.
Craig is there.
just come over there.
They're acting like there's some bar that's set up across town that they're all going to hop into Uber.
It's like right there.
It's like right.
It's like right.
It was planned.
Yeah.
But it's also like it's just right there.
Just go in there.
Just walk in.
Yeah.
And she's like, no one else knows about this.
But me, why are you making it sound like it was some planned thing, Sally?
Just tell her.
So Vanita's like, well, I guess Sally's a girl's girl until a man is involved.
Mm-hmm.
Dun, done, don't.
John.
So I don't think that Sally should have to leave this party just because Vanita is.
If Vanita wants to go, then it's her responsibility to make up with the person, right?
Why does everyone else have to leave and be mad?
I don't get it.
Yeah, I mean, Sally basically is like, here's my version of Girl Code.
She's like, it doesn't mean I can't talk to the enemy, but it just means that they get into a fight.
I have Vanita's back.
And but if I'm having a conversation with Craig, then that's all it is.
and I'm like I don't know
I don't know
I don't know where I land on that
I have not decided if I agree
I see what she's saying
it's like I'll always have Benita's back
but I can also like talk to the person
I don't like when my friends cause drama
and then I have to like leave parties and stuff
because they take stands like Vanita
yeah that's what I started it she went on national
whatever podcast radio or whatever
and said what she said you are if you will
And if it pissed Craig off, then she was the one who started it.
So if she wants to make up, then she should be the one to make up.
But also, she shouldn't feel the need to storm out of this thing.
Just because there's an after party.
Just go to the after party and ignore Craig.
Like, I just don't want to be forced into not liking other people because my friend started a fight.
That's my, yeah, I kind of agree with Sally on this one.
And I also feel like if it were a breakup, especially if this were like a page and Craig breakup situation.
And Vanita and Craig had been in like a big relationship and it was fresh.
It was new.
Then like, yeah, maybe I might like hang closer to my girlfriend and just really be with her.
Because that's like a higher stakes thing.
But this is some stupid bullshit that took place across social media.
So I don't think that like Sally should be denied from shooting a scene at the after party just because Vanita is like, you know, is upset.
right like i think and if anything like you said i think finita should also just go into the party
because it's not a this is not correct yeah you're shooting not hosted by crag they just went in there
it's not big of enough deal to be walking off you know but that's always vinita she has a hard time
gauging like the drama like what drama is uh how high the drama is in this situation you know
what i mean she's either underplaying it like she did forever with j t or she's kind of overplaying it
So she never knows how to get the temperature quite right.
Actually, though, she did the right thing,
which is that she stormed off.
It wasn't really that much of being a storm off.
She just sort of walked off.
And she got the cliffhanger shot,
which is her just leaving the party,
being like, I'm out of here.
So look at you, Vanita.
Look how far you've come.
Two storylines versus Sally and versus Craig.
Yeah, pretty good.
Yeah, it was a fun, frothy first episode, excited for it.
Thanks, everyone, for being here.
This was a great, great time.
Yeah, we sure love you guys.
We'll be back tomorrow with Orange County. Talk later.
Bye.
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