Watch What Crappens - #3094 Crappy Hour 12/01/25: Porsha Loves, Kandi Divorces, Mia Arrested

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

This week on Crappy Hour, Kandi and Todd call it quits, Porsha comes out with a new girlfriend, Mia gets thrown in the clink, and Leah finally admits that she’s the problem it’s her. We g...o live every other Monday at 5:30 PT at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and youtube.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watcher Crappins ad free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Hello, hello, and welcome to Krapiawa. I'm Ronnie. That is Ben over there. Hi, Ben. Hi, how's it going? How you doing today, baby?
Starting point is 00:00:42 I'm doing quite well. You know what, though? I feel like, should we, should we get, should we sizzle up this look a little bit? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:53 We were just doing our other live thing for the day and had to have a black background. So here we go. Let's get some color back into it. I'm going to make our faces bigger. What do you think of that? Oh, yes. Going wild today. Giant-faced men.
Starting point is 00:01:08 How is everybody today? Ben, welcome back from vacation, okay? Thank you. I love that we had all this time off. And today, we've been working, doing, this is our fourth thing because we did Potomac and Merritt of Medicine, and then we did Amazon, and now we're doing this. So we're diving into this. week. Oh, it is as it is the biggest shopping moment of all time. I forgot. I forgot Ronnie. I was going to do this right now. I may have to go back to the wide view to have as much space on the here. Go ahead. Take it. Take it. Baby. We're just going to get a little wide. No, no, you don't have to remove yourself. I actually would like you to say because something arrived and perhaps it's a program.
Starting point is 00:01:59 for a toddler, it's a copy of the rumors and the nastiness, a new board game. My Mariner's Marks. The Moonstness, my mariner's mark. Actually, that's funny. Look at how the rumors is spelled. It's spelled with a umla. Um, um, is got a loomestness. Shall we do an unboxing?
Starting point is 00:02:23 Sure. The unbox that sucker. Get it ready to go. So for those of you just listening, Ben just got a big box in the It's pink, okay? It's a big pink box, and he's now opening it with scissors. With scissors. It says on the front, it's the Meredith Mark's Limited Edition.
Starting point is 00:02:38 This is the limited edition, and it's a very good game. You will not fall asleep, so you'll always know exactly how this game will end, unlike certain feature films that I may have watched on an airplane. Okay, the plastic is coming off. It's a very nice box. You guys know, I play a lot of board games, so I appreciate good quality. I'm going to take off the rumors and nastiness band that is holding it. My fear is that it's going to have like some perfume smell.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Do you think it won't have a person for. No, there won't be a perfume smell in there. Someone says, does it come with caviar? Now that would be cool, camiard moving around the boy. Oh, I figured out how to open it. Oh, is it a hinged box? It's a hinged box. How nice.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Wow. Get fancy. Okay, the inside says, is it a rumor or the nasty truth? That's what's on that line in the box. So what we have here, we have a series,
Starting point is 00:03:39 there we go. Here are the rules. We have a series of shot glasses. This is basically a shot glass kit. We have some dry race markers, perfect for a toddler who doesn't want to sting in his clothes. And we have, we do have a caviarie. situation here
Starting point is 00:03:58 there's by only this is actual caviar it says it's a it says it's caviar is best served with a side of chaos this isn't caviar
Starting point is 00:04:09 imagine she just sent caviar in an unrefigerated box nice room temperature caviar oh my god it's not these are questions that you can ask people oh
Starting point is 00:04:19 okay so questions is it waterproof so you can play in the bath that would be very smart So we have, I guess, some are rumors and some are nasty. This is actually a very well-produced game. It looks like it's more of a party game. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:04:37 This is, okay, here's a question. It says, is this a rumor or nasty truth? Circle one. Gossip coaster. Okay, well, I will learn the rules to this. I will report back. I will see if I can play it. My board game friends are going to be like, what the hell is this?
Starting point is 00:04:53 What is this? But I'm determined to get this to the table. I will report back. Thank you, the Merck's family, for sending me this lovely board game. So that's it. Wow, the entire family sent it. Well, that is something. They all put it in the mailbox together.
Starting point is 00:05:07 They each put a hand on it and we're like, send it off to Ben. Yeah, well, that's a pretty nice gift. I was also given a great gift this Thanksgiving weekend. And that was gossip from The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which I'm finally getting caught up on. I'm on like episode four of the new season. and Jesse and Demi are at it. Have you been following any of this? I know that there was something with the fruit loops that came back or whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Fruity pebbles. So, yeah, they've been going at it. You know, Demi is going on post calling, you know, Jesse thirsty. Both of them are questionable, if you ask me. And my niece was watching some of this with me. And she was watching some of the Instagrams with me. And she said, so wait a minute. So both of them have been cheating on their husbands with some.
Starting point is 00:05:53 other guy, but now they're fighting over who actually had sex with the guy. I said, yeah, basically, basically. So they've been fighting back and forth. A lot of you have been following that and know all the little dirty details. But Jesse came on and was like, okay, guys, well, just you know, the whole Fruity Pebble storyline was because her old man Brett, which I like that they're calling him Old Man Brett now, she said, Old Man Brett loves to drink her pee. He drinks it by the gallon yeah and that's what we call fruity pebbles so there you go have fun with that demi and then everyone's like oh my god fruity pebbles was pee the whole time which listen as someone who loves fruity pebbles is fruity pebbles going to sue these women because they should like i don't want
Starting point is 00:06:37 any fruity pebbles now thinking of brett drinking demi's pee i mean listen do whatever you'd like to but why do you have to involve my favorite cereal is cocoa pebbles next leave cocoa pebbles alone. It does seem to be a bit of a brand crisis. I do agree. If your brand is being put out there as slang for urine, not a great look, especially if your brand is an edible brand, like fruity pebbles. So that's great. Yeah. It's an issue. And Demi's response was to do some like kind of PR written or chat GPT written response. It was like, my husband and I's personal private sex life being exposed on the national television is quite a choice and a disaster you know she goes through this whole victim thing i'm like babe you're exposing this other girl on national tv like we're
Starting point is 00:07:24 going to cry for you but listen i'm not crying for anybody on that show especially demi or jesse because jesse's kind of a hero this season even though she kind of cheated on her husband and somehow we're all rooting for her but i will not forget jesse is the one who's always trying to get people to sin on that show she's the one who's always like you want to drink you want to want to drink, come on, have a drink in the hot time. She's always, and she was Demi's friend, so I think she was just as messy, but, man, I'm loving watching that show because as usual, they are just stabbing each other in the back and just giving the biggest, fakes, sweetest, religious smiles as they do it. It's a creepy show, and I love every creep on it, every single one of them. I love.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Speaking of which, as long as we're talking about that, so I just wanted, I went to look to see where Whitney landed on Dancing with the Stars because I know she made it really far. Guess where Whitney is going to next, Chicago. The actual musical, Chicago, Whitney from Secret Lives of Dancing, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, is going to play Roxy Heart. So there you go, everyone. That's two hours. That news broke two hours ago, right there. So the name on everybody's lips is Joseph Smith.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Yeah, I think it's time to just close it. I mean, you know, Whitney's kind of a dick, too. I mean, Whitney's whole thing, last season, she worked so hard to get back on that show. And then this year, the show opens with them saying, yeah, Whitney won't come because she was demanding, like, a role in a scripted show and more money than, I think it wasn't even about money. It was like she wanted a role in a show and all this other stuff. I mean, you know, you can't blame a girl for asking, but I don't know. I think she's riding high and good for her, you know. She got to go on Dancing with the Stars.
Starting point is 00:09:11 She did really well on that show, too. Yeah. And she gets to go on Chicago. But those are all kind of like dead end things. You know what I mean? Dancing with the Stars, that role in Chicago. No, Dance with the Stars is having a resurgence. It was the largest, it was like the largest primetime audience since the Friends finale,
Starting point is 00:09:31 the Dancing with Stars finale, which I don't know why. Wow, really? But apparently that's huge because that was a different time, too, you know. Yeah. Dancer The Starburst has been leaning more into TikTok users, which is what these girls are also. And so it's really power the ratings. Dylan Efron, you know, formerly of traitors. So he's relevant to our world. He was also on it. He also made it very far, which is probably because he's like super hot. So people were like, oh, let's just see him. They just have him shirtless every single week. But Robert Irwin won. And I saw the first week. And Robert Irwin was so good. And I was really also happy that Andy Richter made it really far. But I fell off. after the first week. I tried to watch some more of it. But, you know, life happens, guys. Pretty pebbles happen, guys, and you just can't keep up with dancing with the stars. But, yeah, so people are telling us, she's also going to be in some kind of a TV movie or something. She should be on Broadway. So, yeah, I guess mostly people are behind Whitney, so that's good.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I don't really care. I don't hate Whitney anymore because I think she had a good season of apologizing last season. season two where she just like sucked it up you know and that's on these shows that's big that's hard to do to spend an entire season sucking up to people that you probably really hate you know so you know good for her i wish her the best okay um so next up the big news i think this week has been the candy and todd divorce candy and todd from real housewives of Atlanta announced that they are donezo they're done i saw candy doing i saw a clip of her Amazon Live and she was saying, y'all, this has been going on for a long time. I know I don't cry a lot, but I have cried. You know, she was doing that whole thing. And she said it's been in the works for a long time. I suspected it when the restaurant started closing because Blaze closed, OLG closed. And those are all Todd's babies. And I knew that once those started closing, Candy was getting sick of paying for his constant and utter failure. So, you know, I guess she got, she decided to get rid of him, which is good, good for her.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I mean, when they closed, how about when they opened? He just started spending all of her money. We always said so, but there was like one season where I think we were on Todd's side early on when we thought like it was cute and Mama Joyce is being so mean to him and we're like, oh my God, but he's so cute and they like each other. It was not right. Mama Joyce was right all along as Brittany Beauchamp in the comments says, Mama Joyce was 100% correct. And the thing is this, the audience came to Mama Joyce's side. quickly, you know, like it became pretty obvious that Todd had no business sense and was just spending her money left and right doing this like garbage projects, like Todd Tucker presents
Starting point is 00:12:16 the pass or Belize or all these restaurants or that. Remember he was the Mexican restaurant. He just kept on spending her money and and then he would like go off to strip clubs. And I know strip club culture is different in Atlanta and everything, but like there just was a sense that he was just a user. and he was a dick to her and he made her feel bad for going out and working. I'm like, where do you think your money's coming from? I guarantee it's not coming from Blaze.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Yeah, fuck that guy. Glad he's gone. As Jamie Patel is pointing out in the comments, as Aunt Bertha once said, I think this was a scheme set up by Todd to bring the bullshit. And I would agree. I'm glad to see Todd out of there. Now, Todd is not going to go. easy, unfortunately. They just spent Thanksgiving together for the family with her family. And
Starting point is 00:13:11 everything seemed like, oh, wow, maybe this will go peacefully. I don't, I didn't think so. And sure enough, Monday after Thanksgiving, he drops the bomb that he is demanding primary custody and questioning the prenuptial agreement. So Todd wants full custody. Gee, I wonder if it's because he'll get child support for that and he's questioning that pre-nup which is hilarious do you think candy's an idiot I mean she was dumb enough to marry you but I think even candy knew who she was marrying she's he's not going to get away with that what do you think what well first of all happy birthday to Debbie who's spending her 70th birthday with us right now happy birthday I think like what is what money has Todd brought to this relationship that he could possibly say he is owed I don't think so no
Starting point is 00:14:02 He is a total user. I mean, no, no, no. And he wants full custody. Why would he, why, in what world is Candy not a fit mother? You know, she's got like this entire, she has this enormous family behind her. And they all take care of each other. We've seen it through the years. We've seen how great Riley has turned out.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Okay, she's like a star on NextGen New York City. She's a lovely young woman who pays for assholes bar tabs with Apple Pay. So like, why would you ever? I don't, like, honestly, and this is, and Kayla seems very nice as well, too. But like, if we're going to look at the scoreboard, I'm going with Team Riley on this one. I don't care. I'll say it. I'm going to Team Riley in terms of that.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Okay, so I'm sorry. I do not, I'm not giving Todd full custody. Well, according to Us Magazine, which is where I'm getting these quotes, Tucker 52, noted Burris's work obligations, will continue to require her to be away from the children for at least the next several months. as he pleaded for primary custody. His filing noted, the parties have been working cooperatively in an effort to resolve all issues,
Starting point is 00:15:09 blah, blah, blah. I want to get to the pre-up. Apparently, he is saying that this pre-up was filed under duress. It was signed under duress. Now, anybody who saw their show about their wedding, which I did,
Starting point is 00:15:24 I watched all episodes of that, and that was not under duress, okay? You had plenty of time. You knew what you were doing. There couldn't have been too much shock that you had to sign a pre-up when you were marrying candy you lazy bastard go to work get a job you lazy and it's so great that Todd has that little shame that he is just becoming what everybody
Starting point is 00:15:47 predicted he was going to be right from the beginning you know I do you think it's him just saying like well everybody always called me a lazy piece of shit with no talent and no work ambition and now I'm just going to do it is he going to Aaron Piper's way all I've got to say is note that this did not happen while she was on real housewives of Atlanta. And now suddenly, you know, like, suddenly now that the cameras are off, like, you know, this is all falling apart. And I'm not saying this isn't even Candy's fault, even though I think you told me earlier today that she was the one who filed for it.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I'm just saying he probably was being performative. I based this on nothing, just on like observation watching the show. He was probably being performative so it could be on the show. And then when the show's not there anymore, he's like, I'm out of here and he starts being a dick. Remember when he bought that whole condo in like New Jersey? And he's like, yeah, this is where I can stay when I'm up in New York, like, which was so obviously, like, a really weird choice that he didn't clue candy into it. It felt kind of like a fuck pad.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Like, I don't know. And, you know, also, like, you know, when I mentioned Riley and Kayla before, like, that was kind of mean. But it's more like, like, Todd is so mean to Kayla. I'm sorry. He really is. and he was like he was doing he's like a very strict parent and you know we always joke about how you know you know parents like oh you know what like kids or I want too much blah blah blah blah blah blah blah but what I'm saying is right like the candy's method turned out very very well and riley has really blossomed to be a
Starting point is 00:17:16 wonderful person and I just don't know why you would feel the need to just remove the children from candy entirely that's just absolutely crazy I don't know I do not well I guess what he's saying is that he wants primary custody because he's going to be out of town all the time and she won't be able to make the primary decisions because she won't be there enough so now he's mad that she's working too much well I'm sure trying to get her money as well is he going to be what she's going to get by working so she's going to get by working on him so yeah that guy's a fucking loser so candy's going to be out of town all this time so why did he buy that condo then in new york is that just for you know architectural digest like
Starting point is 00:17:55 you're going to be out of town too well obviously not because we saw the condo that is no architectural digest you will be traveling all over as well no i'm sorry i'm sorry i don't believe in any of this i think that i'm team candy all the way to the end and i think that candy seems like a great person i think riley seems like a wonderful person i think kala seems like a wonderful person the only one here who is a loser is todd and sorry not backing you on this one yeah that is loser behavior sir so terrible luck to you terrible luck to you yeah terrible terrible luck to todd Tucker Don't want to hear it anymore from him. Enough. Shut up Mountain for Todd Tucker.
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Starting point is 00:19:27 To find out the full incredible story, follow British scandal wherever you listen to podcasts or listen early and add free on Wondery Plus. I think someone else who's really embracing their villainy is Liam McSweeney. Why are we still talking about Liam McSweeney? I don't know. I usually don't. I'll usually pass up a Liam McSweeney story
Starting point is 00:19:51 because she's obnoxious as Hale. But she did post this. I'm going to put this up on the screen so people can see it. Share screen. Share my window. Share this one with the evil on it. This is Leah McSweeney. She, Real Housewives of New York alum, Leah McSweeney,
Starting point is 00:20:09 mocks, hold on, let me not sign in with Google. Mocks detractors and defiantly takes credit for the show's demise. She posted a picture of herself in like, I don't know, what is this? Like a little mini skirt and a bikini top. bending over in a um limo and then biting her thumb and looking sexily in the camera with messy hair and it says just a baddie that ruined your favorite franchise black hearts yeah you know it still seemed to be happy to uh to benefit from that though huh seems to be happy to benefit from that franchise dang lea's such a disappointment she just always is
Starting point is 00:20:48 i mean her first season was so entertaining for me she was so So I know that she was like shit-faced and she, like that is an issue for her and I get that. But she did have a real supreme knack for kind of calling things out. She was entertaining not just because she was drunk all the time and crazy. And it's a real shame that that just, that was had a spectacular flop. One of the biggest flops in Housewives history, like to go from her first season to her second season. But she even took away the joy in like drunk ladies on real. Housewives of New York with her whole stunt of like, they made me drink. And they're the reason they put me in a bad
Starting point is 00:21:28 situation knowing I'm an alcoholic. It made me drink. This is Real Housewives of New York, Madame. You cannot take down a whole show because you can't. First of all, you started drinking before we don't even need to go back there. But they made a lot of what was fun about, she made a lot of what was fun about that show. No longer fun. Please leave us alone. Please. We've had enough of you. Yeah. Be gone. Be gone. You it's so funny. I was telling you this before about how last night for no good reason, I went on to Blue Sky and I
Starting point is 00:22:00 posted my top 25 Housewives who are cast from season five or later. I don't know why. I decided to make a listicle and I decided to put it on Blue Sky of all places. So I did. And I was struggling because I really there was a part of that really wanted to put Liam McSweeney
Starting point is 00:22:17 on there because her first season was so tremendous. I was like I want to put her on there. Like that, like, I don't want to erase that because it was so good. But then she was so bad. Actually, she wasn't even, honestly, even her second season, she was lame, but she wasn't as bad as other people are. But I think it's sort of just like,
Starting point is 00:22:36 when I think of the second season, I just think of sort of that attached to everything that followed. And it's just kind of like such a disappointment. Like she could have been one of the great ones. She really could have. Didn't we almost have it all? I know. And you ruined it.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I'm never going to. I'm never going to forget the, the teaky, the teaky torches in the backyard. I mean, that's one thing that will, well, that will always be that will, we will always have that. And we'll always be able to enjoy that. She had some classic moments, but she also had Real Housewives of, uh, Real Housewives ultimate girls trip, as was pointed out here in the comments. Yeah. And, um, that was really when she just crashed and burned. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Although she even had good moments in that. I remember when there was that scene where she was sitting at dinner and she was just being a big baby, but she was also like, annoying everyone in a way that was like very funny to me she was like oh you guys just like yapping on and on and on and then like alexia got so mad at her right wasn't alexia like that's like really rude i'm telling a story she had moments but yeah ultimately the obviously we all know she sucks it's just i get sad i get sad when i see potential go down the drain yeah so what um what do you want to talk about today ben well as long as we're talking about stuff this is actually slightly older now because it broke
Starting point is 00:23:51 the day after our last one. I like that segue. As long as we're talking about stuff. As long as we're talking about like big scandals, one thing that we really have not gotten to talk about is the Mia Thornton saga that's unfolding down in the south
Starting point is 00:24:07 which is that she got arrested like the day after our last, not PropoCon but crappy hour. So mad. She got arrested so everyone knows about this by now, but she got arrested for stealing the furniture and was it
Starting point is 00:24:22 an Airbnb she was in from a rental I'm like Oh she's a messy one She's a real And the body cam footage You know We got body cam footage from this one
Starting point is 00:24:32 And you know She's crying and stuff And no one even had money To get her out I mean it was $2,500 And I think she was in there For a long time I mean she was in there for days
Starting point is 00:24:42 If not a week at least Where was ink? Broke Trying to sell a couch probably It's like trying to put the bail money on the counter. Like, guys, I got it. Because someone just give me an apple crate.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Come on. Yeah. And then she was posting on her Instagram when she got out, obviously, herself in like ball gowns and black and white photos being like, strength. I am all about strength and grace and class. I'm like, girl, you stole a couch from an Airbnb. That's why you went to jail and you couldn't even afford to get out of there. What the hell is going on with you?
Starting point is 00:25:15 What is going on? And then she said, her guy had the furniture in storage somewhere, and so she didn't know how to get it. And how much do you even make from stolen Airbnb furniture? Good Lord. I don't know. But poor Mia, she went from the joint to the joint. It's a sad saga. The joint chiropractic to just the joint.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Just the joint. Just the joint. Bless her tart little heart. But I would say, like, you know, these scandals come through Bravo. fairly regularly and this is the first time we've seen stolen furniture from an Airbnb. It's actually sad. It's actually
Starting point is 00:25:54 such a sad. It is really sad because yeah, one of the other headlines is Mia Thornton sued for eviction over unpaid rent weeks before airport arrest. So, you know, look, nobody wants to, especially in the times we're living in, it's not like, ha ha, you're poor. Yeah. But, girl, stealing the
Starting point is 00:26:10 furniture from your Airbnb and then putting it in your boyfriend's U-Haul rental is pretty pretty. bad. Come on. That's, that's pretty bad, me. Yeah, it's bad, but it's also just like, but like if you take away like the real world sadness of it, which is very sad because like it's clear that like, I think we all all had that sense that like once she was off of Potomac, like this was going to, this was going to be her
Starting point is 00:26:33 thing and then it was going to be a very sad like post fame crush for her. But if you take away that depressing element of it, there is just, there's like that sometimes, Real housewives crimes sometimes are so bonkers. So bonkers. Yeah, really, but it's crazy that that's the third person on Potomac to be in that kind of trouble recently because you had Karen, then you have Wendy who has not been convicted or tried yet, but that's not looking good. And then you've got Mia. And I think that out of all of those, I mean, I thought, I mean, I guess they're all kind of stupid. They're all stupid crimes. They're all stupid. D-UI is just stupid. And especially your fourth. I mean, that's just dumb. Wendy's was like the worst faked robbery ever. So that was really stupid. And then this one, stealing furniture, but this is the stupidest and the saddest. Yeah. Well, the good news is instead of focusing on all the people who are going to jail, why don't we spread some holiday cheer around for the people who are coming out of jail? Because guess what? we are nine days away from J-Day, Jen Shaw.
Starting point is 00:27:49 We knew it. Wow. She is getting chalist. We, I think, I could swear we made a bet on one of the crappy hours or one of the episodes about when Jen Shaw is going to be released. Or maybe it was Karen. I think I said two years, but I was wrong, right? Because it's been longer than two years.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Has it been longer than two years? I think my guess was two years. I think it's been about two years. But if someone could find that, someone could find that in the archives, I would love to see where we actually landed with that because, yeah, J. Day is arriving on us for us. She's getting out of jail. I don't think that she's going back to real housewives of Salt Lake City, but, you know, crazy things. Actually, I want because I said she'd be out in two years and she started her sentence on February 17th, 2023. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Wait, so does that make me late? So wait. I seem to remember. No, so I'm late, right? Yeah, I'm like, never mind. I didn't win shit. I actually, I don't want to be like this, Ronnie, but I seem to remember in this case, I actually felt like, I feel like I came in under you. I feel like I said that it was going to be really in two years.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I have a big number. That's why we need to look this up for us. Alas, it was longer than two years. So I still, I still lost. But, yeah, that's pretty crazy. She's going to be back. Do you think she's going to be back on the show? I don't think so, but I would not put it past Whitney to have she'd have seen with her
Starting point is 00:29:19 where she's like, she's like, yeah, I met with Jen because I needed to clear things up. I needed to get closure and I believe in forgiveness. So, yeah, even though she tried to drown me in a pond one time. Theoretically. Theoretically. Well, she wouldn't know that word. I think Whitney would do it, but I think, I don't think that, I don't think Andy likes Jen Shaw and I don't think that he wants her on the show. The show has thrived without him. I don't know that it's really Andy's choice, you know. I mean, he's a producer, but I don't think he's like the, you know, he said himself that he's not the, you know, final voice over there. So I don't know. And then they were introducing Francis, you're new, or not introducing her, but they were, they were talking to Francis in some article, which I didn't link today. I'm just thinking of.
Starting point is 00:30:10 of what I read this week. But, you know, Francis, who's the head of the chairman of Bravo, and we met her at BravoCon, Ben and Francis are besties now. But Francis was in an article, and they were interviewing her about who she would bring back. And she basically said everybody who's been fired. She's like, sure, yep, I'd bring them back. Love her too. She's great, too.
Starting point is 00:30:32 NeNe, sure, bring her back. You know, she loves everybody. So I think, right it. The headline literally says, Bravo boss, Francis Burwick, on the joy of Bravo. Khan and who can be forgiven by the network Karen Hugar and who can't, Jen Shaw probably. Well, but read it because I don't think
Starting point is 00:30:48 she said. I think she said, that maybe. Francis was in the good mood whenever they got Francis. First of all, I'd never heard of Francis being in an interview before. So I like that somebody got an interview with her. And I love that she's just so like laissez-faire. She's like, yeah, sure, bring them back. Bring them all back. Love them all.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I'll take them. I think, um, I mean, Jen being an active scammers or having been an active scammer is really bad. And I guess people are saying in the comments that someone once scammed Andy Cohen, so he may have a real, a real extra grind about this one. That's true because the same thing happened to him has almost happened to me. Thank God I have a Ben in my life. You know what Andy needs a Ben because remember that day I called you and I was like, oh my God, someone's trying to get in my Google account. I'm freaking out. I'm on with customer service at Google and they're telling me, you know, they're sending me a new pass, you know, a new
Starting point is 00:31:41 number and I have to send it to them. And you're like, I don't, I don't know. I'm like, this sounds fishy. I don't think I should give it to them. And you're like, Ronnie, I don't think there is a customer service at Google. Like they're not, I'm like, but they called me and I looked, I did a reverse look up on their number and it said Google. And you're like, Ronnie, Google does not call you. He said, this is a scam. I was like, I think it's a scam to you, but I'm not, I'm not sure yet. Should I do it? I'm so scared. They have my crypto. They have everything. Man, like they could see everything that was on my, my passwords, you know, all the places that I had passwords to.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And I was like, oh, my God, it's really them. How else would they know? Because they broke into your account, you stupid dick. Yeah. That's how it's, it's really, scammers are hard. I mean, we've all been scammed. We've all, they're smart about it. And in fact, there was just an article in the New York Times over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:32:27 This guy wrote about being scammed. And he goes, I, he goes, I write about scams for a living. I am aware of every scam in the book. I've been writing about scams for 20 years. i know them all and i still just got scammed so like we all it happens to all of us they're getting really good at it but you know jenn is the lowest of the low because she purposely went after the the easy target you know the easiest like the saddest people the brokest people the old people who are living on their pensions etc so you know we don't have to like go on and on about how
Starting point is 00:32:59 shitty she was because we've done that for years but yeah i really hope bravo doesn't stoop that low Although I do watch Bravo because they do stoop that low. So I wouldn't be surprised if they did. My prediction is her ass will be back. But I hope that I'm wrong. By the way, what was so funny was when you were actively getting scamped, I did think it was so interesting that when you put them on speaker from me, I heard in the background,
Starting point is 00:33:24 but what about me? I need your Google password. What about me? Little did they know. That's the password. word. But you know what, though? Okay, cynically speaking, people have committed all sorts of crimes and still wound up back on reality TV. Like, it's one of the blights of the genre. Unfortunately, as much as I'm a proponent of reality TV and real housewives, whatever, this is something that
Starting point is 00:33:51 happens. And you can, and producers will always sort of write it off by saying, but we're interested in telling human experiences. Like, even if someone committed a crime, we want to see, what's it like after you've, like, been in jail? And now, like, have to navigate back. with your friends. They'll come up with something like that. So even if you decide to take the cynical approach of like bring Jen back for some scenes, the problem is that like Jen is ultimately like not a compelling real housewife. And she never has been. There have been some times where she's been sort of interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:19 The season when everything crumbled for season two was truly like, I still think that's probably the number two best season that Salt Lake ever had. Which one? Number season two when she got arrested. But like I don't think that it's because she was so interesting. She had some interesting moments and, like, there were times, like, where I could sort of enjoy Jen Shaw when she was sort of being more real and jokey or whatever. But ultimately, she was like one of these people who wanted to be on TV and it showed it. There was not that authenticity.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And the group really has its own chemistry right now that's really strong. And I think that Jen Shaw, it's the show's moved on past her. And I think Bravo's moved past her. I don't think that she should be back. Yeah, I agree. And I didn't like her on the show. I thought she was obnoxious and too much and just an asshole. to faker. So I was glad to see her get arrested for that because I would like to see people get
Starting point is 00:35:09 arrested for just being bad housewives because I feel like it's a crime. So get ready, Peggy, both Peggies from Orange County. Get ready. Most of the O.C. that they brought on over the years, Lydia, we could throw on that burning heat. I have some weird soft spot for Lydia. I don't know what it is. I always feel like Lydia could have been better. She just always got stuck on a bad season. Oh, we could talk about Kelly Dodd and the voicemail she left for her daughter. Oh, my God,
Starting point is 00:35:44 did you watch that? I watched it. Did you watch it? The video? Of course I did. I played it at Thanksgiving Canasta for the whole family. I was like, you guys got to hear this. Because listen, if you're going to keep me hold up for three days playing Canasta, you're going to have to hear my Instagrams or my TikToks.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And that was one of them. Who was the girl that was playing it? It wasn't even Joe Lee, right? That was Jolie. Wasn't it one of her friends who got the voicemail and then she leaked the voicemail or was it actually Jolie? Because I didn't recognize Jolie. That was, yeah, Jolie is, she's grown up. She's a young lady now.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Well, okay, so it was Kelly Dodd and it was a voicemail. It was very Alec Baldwin, you know, Alec Baldwin's voicemail to his kid when he's like, you little pig, or whatever he called her, quiet piggy, which was another thing that happened during our break. Anyway, sorry, I got. sidetrack there. I got into politics. I was like, wait a minute. But yeah, so it was Jolie's friend, by the way. Some people are saying it was Jolie's friend. Yeah, I didn't think it was Jolie. Yeah, so I guess Jolie had sent it to her friend and her friend just sat there with her
Starting point is 00:36:45 vape, like smoking her vape and playing playing the phone. And so the voicemail was just very Kelly. It's like, you little twerp, you're, you're disgusting. You're disgusting. And you think you can say things about me? Well, you better watch it. Because I'm got recordings of you and i can release those recordings of you you spoiled spoiled terrible little girl i'm surprised she didn't call her a little bitch that was my only shock was that she wasn't like completely cursing her out but it was pretty bad but also very kelly like a right i think she said you if you think you're going to do that if you think you're going to take michael's side after he treated you like garbage you are dumb as fuck she said something like you're a dumb fuck if you
Starting point is 00:37:32 think that like she really like uh that's what you call um someone some therapist child getting put to call getting paid college tuition paid for because that is like that is who that was and you think like look at all i've paid for you i've paid for your classes i've paid for you to go to the doctor i'm like wow you paid for your own daughter to go to the doctor i know mother teresa over there i know standard fair standard fair i like this uh comment by Jennifer, it says her friend was sent it by Kelly because Jolie blocked her. So Kelly was sending this voicemail to a friend to play for Jolie to tell her off because Jolie blocked her. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yeah. It's a sad situation. And also, what's also really sad is that when we saw them on this show, they actually had such a lovely relationship or that's what it seemed like. So it makes me actually really sad for both of them. And I feel, you don't feel sad that that relationship fell apart? No, not at all. It's vile. I'm glad for Jolie for sticking up for herself.
Starting point is 00:38:37 If you've got a mom who's talking to you like that, that's crazy. I'm saying that they used to have a nice, like they had a nice relationship. And then now it's like this. I think that the fact that it went from that to this is sad. I'm not saying that I'm not saying like, oh, poor Kelly Dodd right now. I'm just saying that the fact that it has fallen apart like that is really is too bad because we saw that girl growing up a little bit. Yeah, because I see comments here that say she repose. She said a blogger who called Jolie a bitch.
Starting point is 00:39:04 She mentioned that Jolie had a mental illness. Yeah, she said something like, you're a sick girl with mental illness or something like that. Yeah, she's been going through with her whole family. I mean, she was going through with her brother. Her brother's been on Instagram, making all sorts of, you know, accusations against her. And then she saw another video of her the other day saying,
Starting point is 00:39:24 my brother is sick. He is cuckoo. He is loco in the head. You believe him? You believe him? Do not believe crazy people. people so I don't know that's just a mess you know it's just it's a huge that whole thing is a mess yeah yeah um but let's do uh let's go on to something funnier lighter and funnier actually not
Starting point is 00:39:45 funnier but it's just at least lighter Jenna lines leaving Roney I guess we knew that was going to happen there's no shock there she's like the only person shocked was Jenna I think I think that Jenna and I don't even think Jenna was so bad on it I enjoyed Jenna I think the rumor was and up until now that she was going to be back as a friend of, which I thought would make perfect sense. We'd still get a little taste of her, you know, kind of commenting on everything. She wouldn't have to show her life. I'm really interested in her life. Cass, the woman she's dating, is a photographer.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And we've heard Jenna say on camera, yeah, she can't come on camera because she'll get canceled. Like she knows she'll get canceled just because of the shit spewing out of her mouth. I want to see that. That's what I want to see. I know. And so I think she even says. I was invited to be a friend of and I turned it down.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I think she should have been, I think friend of would have been a good role for her. Like I think we've seen some people who have been, who've really flourished in the friend of role. I think Cynthia Bailey has done very nicely as a friend of. I actually like Vicki Gundelson as a friend of. There are various others.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I can't remember. But like, well, obviously like half the cast of Miami has been turned to a friend of and they're great in that role. So I think Jenna would have been good. And I've always said, like I remember the show that she had stylish with Jenna Lyons
Starting point is 00:41:05 that was on HBO Max back during the Jennifer Tilly during the pandemic. It was a great show that really highlighted her quirky personality. She was like, it was like the promise of Carol Radzwell came to fruition with Jenna Lyons. But I think that's a full-fledged housewife. It just was not, it was, it wasn't a great, a great match.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I think I really wanted it to happen to work. It just didn't. But you know what? They're really trying. They're redoing that show again. They're rebooting the reboot. They're only keeping three housewives. They're keeping Jessel, Sy, and Aaron, which, I mean, Jessel. Stop at Jessel. Like, why are you keeping half the terrible parts of it? You know, just if you're going to start over, just start over for Christ's sake. Well, I would keep Jessel 100%. I think Jessel was the best thing to come out of the reboot because she has that like delusion. And she says, dumb things and I think Jusel was a great a great find Aaron I just I think actually I had a strong second season because I thought first season she did it she had a better second season yeah she had a she had a better second season she did I'm I just I'm concerned about Aaron I just don't I don't know if Aaron is like I don't know if she's entertaining enough
Starting point is 00:42:23 like I don't know I it's like she seems like a nice person maybe I like the babe was fun I like the age of the day in terms of when to be mad at She seemed nice, you know, look I've, you know, I've talked to both Aaron and, uh, the husband, the husband at length about stuff I said during their first season. And, you know, they were cool.
Starting point is 00:42:43 They were nice. We had a good conversation, but I still watch the second season was like, I mean, still though, come on. I just need funnier people. I need funnier people. That's it. It's not even anything personal against her. I don't, you know, I don't know where that well is a person,
Starting point is 00:42:56 but just I need funnier, wackier people. I don't need some. like boring like I'm in real estate my business is called home girl get it do you get it do you wait Ronnie don't say that to the person
Starting point is 00:43:10 who introduced mezcal to America I think that I think you know it's not really campy enough and she's not deluded enough and she's not like enough of like a villain so she sort of falls in this weird space and maybe with a proper ensemble
Starting point is 00:43:25 she can finally like flower But, yeah, we'll see. Yeah, no, for me. Well, in some happy news, there is a new cast member in Portia Williams' lives. She has come out. She has basically come out as officially bisexual with her new romance, girlfriend, Patrice, Sway, McKinney. So that was true. All those rumors were true about Portia and someone named Sway.
Starting point is 00:43:56 and let me just say I will put this up here now. I'll put the article from People Magazine up here so you guys can see, Sway cute. She is cute. Really cute. And they look very cute together. I like Sway.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Yeah, I do too. I only know her. I only know her from a picture, but she's pretty cute. Portia Williams hard launched her new relationship with girlfriend Patrice Sway McKinney on November 28th. The relationship is the first. The Real Housewives of Atlanta Star
Starting point is 00:44:26 has made public since her divorce from Simon, Simon. Williams revealed in October that she was talking to two people, a man and a woman, and the woman won out. And that is Sway. Sway. Well, that's good. Sway is the founder of Encore Salon Suites in Atlanta. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And I like that she's competing with Kenya and her bustling business. Kenya more hair care. Kenya more hair care. Yeah, I do like that. You know, we talked a lot about jail, by the way. And we've overlooked a very important prison story that broke. Have we? Yeah, two days ago.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And I'm surprised that I'm the one who has to bring it to the podcast. Because, you know, I don't like to have to bring this. You know, I don't like to increase the visibility about certain things. I don't like to shine lights on certain things. But this one comes from the world of McBee Dynasty. And I'm bringing it here to Crappy Hour. What don't I know about McBee Dynasty? Masha's going to jail.
Starting point is 00:45:24 What? Masha? What? Masha do? How did my Google alerts not go off? I have a Google alert for Masha and for Galena. What happened? Well, Masha Petrova has been ordered to serve two days in jail after pleading guilty to speeding. Oh, come on. That's it. But to be, I think her defense, I mean, how does she not have this defense? I was racing to get home to save Ginger, my favorite chicken. I know, I was going to say, did they look in that trunk and see if ginger's in.
Starting point is 00:45:56 there because I'll bet she was the one who kidnapped Ginger that whole time and try to pin it on my sweet Galena. Not Masha. Oh, God. Also, just bought new pan and I'm afraid that Galena will destroy it. Don't put it in dishwasher. Don't beat it and put dishwasher. I have to race home.
Starting point is 00:46:12 I'm sorry. I have to go there as soon as possible. By the way, I took a picture with the love of my life, Jesse McBee, with Casey from Bitchess, Garbage World. And she did not give me the picture. I've asked her on Instagram. She is still not given me the picture. picture. So if anybody knows her, please message her and tell her that I'm dying for this
Starting point is 00:46:31 picture. I asked her for Thanksgiving. I said, I need this for Thanksgiving to remind myself of what I'm thankful of. And I still have not received this effing picture. And I'm pissed. This is what, really, this is what happens when you put your eggs in a McBee basket. Disappointment. You find yourself walking up to them at BravoCon and taking photos. You're so excited that you didn't even think to get it on your own phone. And this is your own phone. That was idiotic of me. I trusted her. I was like, hey, this is, this is a way that I'm going to show trust in this friendship. I'm going to let Casey be in charge of it. And that was the biggest GD mistake of my life. So someone, please tell her, I'm pissed and I need the picture immediately.
Starting point is 00:47:14 We will, we will arrange to get that photo to you. I need it. I'm going to frame it. I'm going to give it to myself for Christmas. He was so cute in his baby blue cowboy suit and matching cowboy hat. What a dream. And I said, Jesse, I love your show. And he said, said, I don't know why people watch it. We're just such a mess. And I was like, that's why I love you. That was our interaction. My experience with the McBee is, aside from the fact that when Galena came walking up to us randomly,
Starting point is 00:47:39 like as soon as we walked in that party, Galena walked up like a robot, and I was like, oh my God, it's Galena. But I just remember. That wasn't random. She listens to the show. I fucking love Galena. I want her in my life. I wanted to become best friends with her and be like, hey, hello?
Starting point is 00:47:53 I wanted to be like, yes, hey, girl. What's going on? What's happening with you today? But what do you mean you have to go? You do not want to leave me. You do not want to leave me. And then Bueller goes missing. I'm out in the streets.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Like, I'm sorry, Galena. I'm sorry, girl, please. Listen, all I know is that, like, at one point I turned around and, like, Cole McBee was, like, laughing, like, two feet from my face. And then just, like, imagine his little tiny mouth making that circle and the little teeth coming out of it. And he's like, well, not Cole. I wasn't excited about Cole. I know. He's like the sequel of Wizard of Oz when all the trees were evil and tried to eat Dorothy.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I didn't even know that even happened. I don't know there was a sequel like that. Are you sure nothing about poltergeist? That didn't have trees, did it? Poltergeist too had a tree that or the original poltergeist had a tree. I think that was very threatening. Oh, I don't remember that. But I do remember the trees trying to eat Dorothy.
Starting point is 00:48:53 so yeah he's an evil tree um so let's see what else is happening in this world oh maria maricio umanski oh yeah maricio did a sexy photo shoot in some leather pants oh you know what uh actually we're nearing the end of this and we need to start talking to some people soon so let's get him caught up in it we got yeah what else happened in here more important things let's go to more important things so mary mary cosby's son robert junior's wife files for divorce as he sits in jail following his latest arrest oh my goodness what a best yeah that whole situation is so sad and um i do think those two kids probably do need to have be like away from each other so that way they can heal i'm assuming there's some sort of codependency going on there so i'm happy with this personally yeah her motion uh her petition requires that both Both parties do not harass, intimidate, or disturb the peace of the other party by any means, including electronically. Let's see here. What else does it tell us?
Starting point is 00:50:01 It prohibits violence or abuse against the other party or a child. Use the other party's name, likeness, or image to get credit, open an account for service or obtain a service, cancel or interfere with telephone, blah, blah, blah. They can also not terminate policies of health insurance, homeowners or rent. rental insurance. God, this is a lot of information in here. Jesus. He's charged with a violation of a pretrial protective order, criminal trespassing, property, damaged, and destruction, assault on a peace officer or military member in uniform, and failure to stop at the command of law enforcement. And he is still in jail. Yikes. Makes me very sad. Very, very sad. Robert was slow to recognize that his marriage was over. His attorney told people. Just stop it slow.
Starting point is 00:50:50 sorry what i uh i thought you were done so i was i was i put up an image of cole mcby's mouth to be a call a pallet cleanser poor cole what cold do nothing cold didn't do anything but beat up a hill and look how mean we are to him the more you look at it the more fascinating it becomes just let that boy be let that boy mcby okay Oh, poor Cole. So what do you want to finish out with? We've got a lot of little stories here we could finish out with. This one's kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I'm not looking at it anymore. I took it out. I took it down. I swear, it's safe. I just hear your evil little laugh over there. I'm just laughing at the concept of Cole McBee. It's a funny concept. The concept.
Starting point is 00:51:43 In this one, how about we end with a good girl on lady fight? Paige DeSorbo versus Patricia Aoushto from Seven Charm According to Decider Page DeSorbo has been activated in a since deleted Instagram comment
Starting point is 00:52:02 under a clip of Decider's recent interview with Patricia DeSorbo clapped back at the matriarch who criticized her for leaving Craig Conover despite his wishes to settle down and start a family. I made the comment that I thought she was mean to Craig
Starting point is 00:52:17 and I stand by that If a man says to you, I want to start a family and have children, you don't say black and carry on like she did. Don, don, don. And Paige responded in the comments. I'll just get married four times instead. Shade. The shade. I mean, I hate that these two women are going at each other. I wish they could get along. But I also do feel very lucky that we got to be just mere 10 feet away. from when this feed started because it started on The Watch What Happens Live
Starting point is 00:52:51 where we were bartenders. Yeah, I mean, look, if I think Paige totally has the right to go blech to Craig when you said that stuff because it's not like the first time you said it. He said it so many times
Starting point is 00:53:04 that now Paige has to say increasingly like sort of rude things to get it through his skull that she's not interested in that. Like, I'm sure in the beginning when he said like, it'd be like really cool
Starting point is 00:53:17 if we had like a family. and kids, it'd be really cool. And she's like, oh, that's, like, really nice. Like, I'm not sure if I'm, like, necessarily, like, looking for that. But, like, it's something we could definitely talk about. And then by now, like, he's like, so you definitely want to have a family? No. You want to have a family?
Starting point is 00:53:32 No. You want to have a family? No, Craig, no, I don't want it. It's disgusting. Stop, but never see it again. Please stop saying family. Family. Damn it, Craig.
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