Watch What Crappens - #3115 Real Housewives of Beverly Hills S15E02 Part 2 : Whine, Lose, or Draw

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

This is part 2 of 2Jennifer Tilly hosts a sip ‘n’ draw party on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills where the group meets newbie Amanda. Afterwards, Kyle inches closer to sharing her truth about her dating life. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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to part one. Okay, it's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show. Okay, let's go back to the scene. So she's like, I'm best known for my never-ending coffee cup, rich as fuck, which helps women redefine their relationship with money and manifest stuff when it's

inadvertently has given me the nickname the money queen you call yourself the money queen i know your boyfriend gave you that your boyfriend gave you that on sanamaka boulevard he's like hey money queen oh my god he's the one so she's like what do you guys doing this weekend it's like well we're going to a party it's a small party it's at my friend my friend's house jennifer tilly okay it's the boho cheek sit in a chair party she just sits in chairs just what she does So, look, it's sip and draw, okay? You ever heard of that? Manifesty Fest?

This is the first time we've actually just seen sit and draw. Normally we see the painting, but this time they're like, uh-uh, we are not getting paint on our clothing. It'll be a colored pencils. That's it. So Amanda's like, so where are you from? She's like, I got to Georgia. You know, oh my God, I'm from Sand Springs, Oklahoma. She says it like, oh my God, so close.

And you see something be like, those places are not close to each other. whatsoever. You are not going to compare Georgia to Oklahoma. Okay. Different part of the same. That's one thing we're not going to do today. Missy, Missy, Manifester. Okay. Yeah. And she's like, well, yeah, yeah, San Springs, though, you've heard of it, right? She's like, oh, stop it. I only know Oklahoma when you stop to get gas there. And Amanda's like, what? Oh, right, because it's in the middle, like you stop in the plane between Oklahoma or tech. Okay, I get it. Sudden's like, yeah, because she's, clearly Amanda's trying to do a, we're both from the south or we're, but we're like, we're in the south or red state or trying to do some sort of like alliance. Southern. Yeah. And Sun's like, yeah, but I mean, the posh south and you're in the flyover, uh, Exxon for airplane south.

Maybe you can find someone who's having a painting party that's from Missouri or something. Okay. Hold on. I'm going to go talk to. Kyle and then I'm going to come and talk to you for one second and then go back to talking to Kyle we call that stop over that's that's what your state is but no one's really nice to Amanda at first which cracks me up I think Kyle's like this bitch who tore up my floors is coming on the show you guys what are we going to do well we'll shame her for only getting gas where she comes from I got your back bitch I got your bag well remember when Vicki Gunwelson got to so much trouble for calling Oklahoma a flyover state she's like why would I go there like why would

Why's Brian to go to Oklahoma? You just fly over it. I just look down on it. Like, you just fly over it. Why would you ever stop there? And everyone got so mad at her. So now we go to Bose's house. And it's a sweet scene with her daughter, Layle.

She's like, where's my brush? And Layle has it. Okay, let's have a hairdoing scene. So they talk about how Bose wants to be proposed to or whatever. And they talk about boys and stuff. Lale wants Keeley to ask her for. before he proposes to Bose. So that's what she wants.

And Bose is saying how the three of them have developed a really sweet little relationship together. And, you know, and she's like, I love that you want him to ask me your permission. Like, oh, you're my dad? That's great. And she's really proud of Lail for being like, I want, I'm proud of her for taking the stance. But I really hope the answer is yes. Because if she says no, mama's not going to be happy. Yeah, could you imagine?

I want him to ask my permission so I can say no. And she's like, well, just make sure before he proposes that I've gotten my nails done. They need to be fresh within the past couple of days. So it's pretty cute. And then we go over to Erica's and she's getting glam. And it cracks me up how Erica's energy is just so different when she's around the gays. When she's around the other women, she's like, Hmm, hello, I'm doing fine.

Thank you very much, going through a traumatic time. And when she's with the gays, it's like, oh, yeah, wow. Like, everything about her is just so different. She's like, we're going to tell his house, and we're going to paint a draw. You know, I can't do that shit. Come on, gays, what do I do? He's like, oh, my God, are you going to have to, like, abstract, have it, like, an abstract approach to it, and they all crack up.

Like, it's the funniest thing. Like, oh, yeah, abstract drawing. That's a limit. So now at Rachel's house, she's in her. glam and the guy's like or whatever the makeup artist is is like well there'll be like a naked man that you're drawing like oh my god I hope not

like I die because like if it's Raj oh my god if it's Raj naked I'll literally die I'll be like paralyzed I can't I definitely can't I'm like not going to draw that like what is this like the Titanic yeah like what is this the Titanic I'm literally frozen to death underwater like I can't yeah

so Dorit's house she's like I'm bring vintage McQueen And her stylist is like, please don't wear that loboobo. Please. Why don't she like me, Lubu? It's like that's the only way to keep Peky close to you, Doree. Just let it go. We see a shot of it and it does look like PK.

Yeah. I am so excited for a few years from now when people look back at the Laboooo craze and just like laugh at all the wealthy people who put these stupid things on their airmez bags. I hope that whoever invented those comes on. real house size of Beverly Hills like I'm the queen of money I got a bunch of idiots to buy ugly stuffed animals for like a thousand dollars now I'm rich as hell like it's one thing like I get like toy fads like that's like I get it but it's just so funny that that these people are

so status driven that they are like I am going to attach this stuffed goblin onto my air mess bag it's like this little pointy teeth and like a like a face It's like a where the wild things are. It's like a Maurice Sendat, like stuffed plushy, and people are just attaching it to their Hermes bags. It's like the funniest concept. And you know when everyone looks back at their pictures of like, this was me and my peak and look at the glamorous life eyelids.

Like, why do you have that strange thing attached to your bag? It's like, we're not talking about that anymore. Yeah. Oh, LeBoo-Boo. So now we go over to Jennifer's and she's like, well, I really wanted to have a party, like to kick off the summer, you know? Because I did miss Kyle's summer

whatever party outside doing crafts, or I don't know what it was, but I know my last party at Caviar Caspia did not turn out so well. So I'm going to have a drawing party because everybody

loves art. So I have a little surprise for the girls. Actually, it's a big surprise. It's nice to have her back. What a welcome. God, well, thank God. What a breath of fresh air.

So, um, uh, her assistant is like, oh, well, there's some caviar. Oh, God. Am I made out of money? Apparently. So Erica arrives and Rachel and Jennifer is like, I've met Rachel socially. And I've gone to some events that she's at. And I've had, I'm a little bit in awe of her because she's one of the most famous a stylist in Hollywood, so I'm a little bit intimidated by how super cool she is.

I just would love to see Rachel have, like, a face-to-face with a Chucky doll, because I feel like Rachel would, like, not know what to do. She's like, literally, that doll is like, it's, like, I die. It's not going to kill me. Like, it's that, Raj? Is that Chias? Kias, are you there? Speak to me, Gaias.

I think you could do with, like, pleaded pants. It's like trying to give advice to Chucky. I'm not against plugs for men, but maybe. Maybe like a middle, a little more subtlety would work. So she comes in and then Bose and Sutton come and Kyle. And then Amanda comes. Oh, a stranger is going to come into our midst. Sutton invited her friend Amanda.

Hmm? So then Rachel's looking around. They're just like, wow, I think everyone did boho chic like really differently. Which is her way of being like, you guys all did it wrong. Yeah, you guys all look like shit. The expert. Everyone else is wearing a potato sack and she comes in like this gold flowy dress. She's like, oh, so I guess we took this directive a little bit differently. So Jennifer is like, Amanda, you know what you looked like in 1985, Chanel where you had all the Chanel models and motorcycle jackets and the sort of ball gowns?

It's a fabulous look. She's like, oh my God, 1985, that was the year that I was born. in pretty much the same state of Sutton. That's crazy. Oh, 1988, really? And she's like, yeah, 85. 1985. I was in Hollywood selling sandwiches out of a hamper. 10 cents a sandwich,

25 cents a salad. So I would push the salads because I would make more money. While she was struggling to get out of the womb, I was just struggling. So then Doreet shows up. I like that they make 1985 sound like the 1910s. Not 10 cents a sandwich.

What? Sandwiches were not 10 cents in 1985. What is this? Dorete shows up and calls like, Hi, DeRee, this is Amanda. She bought my house in Bel Air for me. Yeah, you may have seen her destroying the iconic floors, you know, charcoal board floors.

Remember her? Yeah, she's in my house. Yeah, she basically works for me. at this point. Yeah, uh-huh, uh-huh. This is her. Yeah, go meet her. Oh, well, how many kids do you have, Amanda? And she's like, I have four. And Rachel's like, you have four kids. You were like just born. She's like, yeah, well, I mean, the older two are my stepkids, and they're nine and seven. And Bo goes, oh, so they're his kids? And she goes, um, well, I'm raising them. They're my stepchildren. She goes, oh, well, I don't know if I like that. I don't know if I like another

woman calling my daughter, her daughter. There's only one mama, and that's me. Damn. Coming for that, mom. I know. I know. Wow. I don't think that was cool. I mean, what do step parents say? Don't they say they're my kids?

Yeah, well, I don't know. I don't know. I think some say they're my stepkids and then some will say it's a blended family. I think it depends on how long or how intimate the relationship is, right? Because they're definitely step parents who just refer to their stepchildren as their kids. So I don't know. but um just wouldn't it be bitchy if you were like how many kids do you have and then she was like well i mean i have two kids but then you know i also have two other kids at my house like i have stepkids

yeah i agree i think it's like you like it's like you want to treat all the kids as like they're there's no difference and so bo's is you know bo's being like oh you mean they're not yours i was like oh i feel like this will be a this will be an issue going forward it's going to be an issue Amanda, you see it in Amanda's face. It's like, okay, the first time I'm on camera with them, they diss Oklahoma and call it a place to get gas. And the second time I'm with them, they diss me for saying, I'm a mother of stepchildren. So you see, you see the points start tallying in that brain. So Jennifer's like, okay, well, the invitation said sip and draw, and we've already been sipping.

So now it's time for the drawing portion, everybody. So let's go outside and look. At some penises. And they go outside and guys drop their robes and there's a lot of weaners hanging out. And let me just say, I'm glad we're not painting teeth or cheekbones because these men were all about the weeners. Otherwise, it would look like a Laboooooo painting party. Yeah, yeah, it was a lot. So it was a naked Laboo painting party.

Yeah, so Erica's like, well, I'll take a bag of dicks over a bowl of fruit any day. Who cares about still life? I was married to that for long enough. So then... I'm still trying to get a divorce from still life. They're drawing. And Erica's like, oh, that one over there is not circumcised. And Kyle's like, I mean, I've never had a mushroom, but like, now might be the time to try one.

So now there's drinks and stuff, and they're all cracking up and be like, oh, my God, penises. We are scandalized. So Amanda's like, so do you guys have a... of some kind I can have. And it's like, oh, boo, you've got to drink alcohol. I mean, unless you're Kyle. She's like, it's not exactly that I don't drink ever. It's just that I prefer not to drink, but I don't know who Erica is to think she could

comment on my not drinking. Am I going to be shamed for good life choices? Is that her MO? I was like, oh, I love that bitchy response. That was so perfect. I'm going to be shame for good life choices. I'm going to start making, I'm going to start making a list of shit that Amanda is going to consider extremely rude. So living in Oklahoma, gas, I'm going to put.

Okay, what was the second thing? Stepchildren. Step children. And then mocktail shaming. Mocktail shaming. I think we should start keeping a tally. Because you know this is going to come up in a fight. And I want to see how many we got, like our best.

bingo card of like, what is the thing that she's going to finally burst her and then she's going to list all of these other things. So one of the models is, has taken this pose where he has put like his hand on the lower part of his back and is arching his back and, you know, and Jennifer goes up. Girl, can we just talk about this pose? He sits on the chair backwards and then sticks his ass all the way out. It's like, is this a cherry boys? What are we painting here, sir? Put your cornhole away. So Jennifer's like, I really like your pose.

Can you, can you hold that for a long period of time? And he's like, no, it hurts. It hurts. Amanda was really funny with them. She's like, okay, so, wait, I just, sorry, I just accidentally scruled. What did she say? Okay, she's like, so what about, she's like, has anyone ever ogled you in a way that made you feel uncomfortable? No.

Have you ever gotten a boner? No. Have you ever considered your life choices? No. Have you heard of Oklahoma? Yes. Okay, I will draw your penis. Are you a stepchild?

So they, they, you know, pencils down, hands up. So everyone's showing each other their drawings are just laughing and Erica's like, you can tell it was not having sex based on these pictures. Erica's are like balls dragging like a mile behind the guy. Jennifer's like, I definitely do not think that we have unearthed any artistic geniuses. None of these girls are particularly going to be the next Monet. So they pick Rachel as the winner. And she's like, wow, literally just flatlined.

So then they go inside to get dessert and catch up. So Jennifer asks Bose how his man is. Oh, such a cutie, and Kyle, are you dating now? And she's like, um, what? What? Am I dating? Dating? That's crazy.

No, I'm not. No, what? Dates? I love dates. The fruit, that is. I'm not a fruit. Wait, that's like, no, wait, what, huh? So, Bo's like, here we go again.

Why does she have to be such a freak every time they ask her? Just say, no, not right? Like, I'm lightly dating, but nobody important right now. Like, why does she have to? She's like, oh, my God, dating? And gets this head, deer in the head. lights look. And then it's like, oh my God, why is everybody asking about me? Because you look like you're about to have a heart attack every time they ask you. Yeah. She is so unprepared for the

nosiest questions that she, by the way, always asks everyone else all the time. So Bo's like, here we go again. Why can't we just get to the heart of the matter? Everybody's seen the pictures. We've heard the rumors. Like, you know, either kill it all together or admit to it. So Kyle's like, Doreet, have you gone on any dates? And she's like, no, because my husband is too busy torturing me just this morning an entire package of chicken salad around at the doorstep. Why does he keep buying it and sending me the bill? And then sending me the chicken salad, too. It's crazy.

The demented games he plays. Oh, is he back in L.A. right now? Because I haven't checked my location today. Oh, yes, he's back in La. He came back after being gone two weeks in Europe. My kids are supposed to go to Florida with a rent prince, and they're so excited to going to Florida. Hmm?

But now, P.K., I can. God letter today from the lawyer saying, Beke here, it's going to bloke it. Hmm? Right? From going? From going? Yes.

Yes, this is true. Just to be mean? God, I love that, man. I love that. And Doret's like, yes, just to be mean. And Jagger has been walking around like he's got the weight of the world. Have I mentioned the weight of the world yet today? Way to the world.

I don't see my son anymore. I just see a world and two little feet under it because the world is on top of him. Do you know how heart-breaking. that is for a mother, and he's been asking for my, for dad, and he's asking for my dad, and not his own father, for my father, Sabah, just like the hummus. And you know what? Five minutes after him arriving, Jagger came into that, into like the same boy that I've been familiar with. Do you know what that's like for me? And going to sleep every night thinking, my God, how are they going to be affected? Gee, I don't even recognize my son anymore. He went from being

little sweet jigger to the Monopoly man and the go to jail card. It was so sad. But then he heard Saba and he's back to normal. Like, okay. And so Carl hugs her. And something's like, well, I'm just breathless watching Doreet. Crumble in front of everybody.

This is good. She's like, this is, the emotions are taking me back. It's like a time machine. I want to cry with her. It's just, it's just heartbreaking, but also really fun. It's like beaches, basically. It breaks your heart by the end, but you want to watch it over and over again.

Guys, my kids, they need love and support, and just to be around family, and this is the first time I'm seeing the impact of mine and P.K.'s divorce, and it's ripping my heart out of my chest. It just feels like whatever I'm doing is not enough. Some would say he has the weight of the world on him. Um, so he just wants to be around family, but I mean, P.K.'s is dad. Like, isn't the, like, isn't the, like, isn't part of the argument that she doesn't see, that he doesn't see the kids so i guess he's wanting to see the kids but like pk you're gone all the time and you were just in your for two weeks they can go to fucking florida okay exactly i think the point it's like yeah he's the dad but like suddenly suddenly he wants to step up to the plate right

when she's planned something nice for the kid and the kids like banged to go to florida with grandpa yeah and then suddenly pk is going to swoop in no like we all know it's a game it's manipulative by the way i may make fun of doree but like and i think i speak for both of us probably that we're like 100% team to read on this. Oh, I'm 100. We've said get rid of that man for years. Yeah, 110,000%. Yeah, I still can't wait for PK to go to jail someday.

I know it's going to happen. It's going to happen. I know it's going to happen. Although Doreet's pretty full of shit herself, but still, team to read over PK. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. Well, it's too overwhelming to think about. everything. So if the most immediate thing right now is getting your kids to Florida so they can

have a good time, let's solve it. Get those children to Florida. The Florida mandate. The only show where people are trying to flee to Florida right now. I know. Right. Today's climate. Like, oh, let's get to Florida. So, yeah. Doreat's like, yeah, he called up. He spoke to Phoenix and he said, okay, well, if they're going, then daddy's going to come to Florida, too, and we'll all stay in a hotel, and you'll be with me. And Kyle says, well, maybe by him going, I mean, if you have to meet in the middle, like, if he wants to go to Florida and stay in a hotel, then, I mean, why can't he do that? And it's like, I don't think you understand, Kyle. I'm not dealing with someone who's like, oh, let's meet in the middle. Yeah, but he's

saying if he's going to go to Florida and, like, at a hotel, I mean, let him do that. I mean, that's kind of a win. Like, they can go see there and see the grandparents and see him. Kyle Kyle such a great friend Sometimes I forget How good of a friend Kyle is Until she steps up in moments like these Gosh

What I would do to have a Kyle in my life Yeah But they don't want you Kyle It's like I'm just trying to find a way Like to be in the middle Like meet in the middle She's like he's doing it to hurt me Kyle She's like okay like look

We're not saying I mean look maybe he is maybe he's not I mean I don't know Like Kyle I mean even if you think that Look I think any reasonable advice would be like, okay, well, the complaint is, okay, I'm not going to call it reasonable. I would say I was thinking, okay, you say the dad doesn't want to see the kids, so he does want to see the kids. If he's offering to go to Florida, that doesn't have to be so. But I don't

think the actual advice of it is that terrible. But I do think, it's her tone. Right. It's, I don't think the advice is that terrible. But you're clearly in a position, you're in a bad position with Doreen already because you were cozying up to her husband and kind of taking his side, which appeared to be taking his sign over her. And now she's freaking out over this last thing after he hasn't seen the kids for God knows how long. You don't even talk to her anymore. And you're going to try and be friends with her.

And this is the way you're going to do it. I mean, whether you're right or you're wrong with your advice, sometimes it's best to just say, how can I support you? You know what I mean? Because this is crazy. And the thing is what Kyle needs to do, which is what the rest of them do is you can kind of get the same advice, but you do it in a way that's like, fuck him. You say, well, then you know what, you know what, Doreet?

then you send those kids to Florida and if he wants to show up in a hotel he can do it and that's his choice but you send your kids to Florida which is essentially the same thing but Kyle her tone is more like well to read let's not be unreasonable here let's not be crazy you don't know if he's trying to hurt you like you're taking this out of good like out of context which is so dismissive and like you want your girlfriend to be like fuck him and if he wants to do this then fuck him and it'll be on him but you keep doing what you do because this is your life And you're an independent lady now. Like, that's the vibe that, like, Doreate wants from her friends and what she deserves. But Kyle's just, like, treating her like an imbecile, which, I mean, Doreta is an imbecile. But you don't want to hear that from your friend. Yeah. I mean, wow. And especially when you see it going bad and that she's getting upset to be like, oh, well, is he doing it to hurt you?

Maybe, maybe not. You know, no. Like, there's the time you just backed down and say, she's really upset. How do I support you? That's it. That's all you need to do here. It's not that hard, especially in front of a group of people. You know what I mean? Like, if you're having a conversation, if you're with a friend who's going through divorce, my sister went through a divorce last year. And so there's a lot of discussion about divorce and like, what's the right way to deal with this? And what's the right way to deal with this, you know, without villainizing the guy to the kids and like, how do we go about this in the best way? And there's advice maybe she didn't want to hear, but there would never be a time where I would be in front of anybody doing that. to her. You know what I mean? It's almost like you support your partner in this situation,

my sister. You support your friend always publicly. And if you have anything where maybe you're going a little wrong or maybe you're overreacting, you do it in private. I mean, what the hell? And I shouldn't have to teach a girl this. This is like girl co. Yeah. Well, don't forget, Kyle's kind of having the best divorce in history. So like, huh, like she leads by example. And also when you haven't even spoken to her, Kyle. like that's the other thing like you're coming to this after not even speaking to her since the last season after you took his side then and you're coming back and you're immediately taking his side again like oh well i think in kyle's mind she's she's saying what you really need now is like a cool head and don't leave the worse in your ex because like the way to get to healthy co-parenting is to actually have to give people the benefit of the doubt don't feel nice and blah blah blah blah blah blah but that's not what that's not what that's not what to reet wants her needs right now and kall's just being a shitty friend to derreet once again as she has been for the the past three seasons. So, Doreet, agreed.

Yeah, Doreet's like, Really? You could actually have the audacity to say, well, maybe and maybe not. Do you know how to ever show up 100% ever? I'm broken. What more proof do you need? Little jabs, little jabs, that's all I get.

You have known me almost 10 years. And how many times have you seen me this way? Well, to be fair, like literally, like every episode, Doreet's like, and then I went to get a yogurt and they were sold out. I didn't believe it. They went. They were sold as a crystal bombs. I said to the TV, like, for four years, what are you talking about? And it's like, Sue, if you're going to help me out, put yourself in me shoes. You have a nine-year-old and a something year old, that girl, I'm not sure, around there.

And they're leaving in 48 hours. And you're telling them they're leaving. And you're telling them to stay with your daddy, see your daddy. And they're crying and they're begging. You're saying, no, not pity. He tried to call me a first. and eat me whole. Please, my bitty. That's what you think I should do, Coyle. And Blue's like, well, you need to let him be the bearer of the bad news. And Amanda's like, yeah, let him either show up or not manifest that bitch. I'm putting that on a glass. And Jennifer was like, you said, yeah, this was the best advice.

If he wants to be the bad guy in this situation and change everything up, then that's great. Let him do it. It's not your responsibility to do it. You're the primary caregiver because he's never there. So you do what you're going to do is the primary caregiver. And then his ass can go ruin their dreams. Absolutely. And Jennifer's like, oh, there's crying and now there's yelling and this party has really taken a turn for the worst.

And Amanda says, well, just prep them. They're going with the grandparents and they're staying with them and then dad might stop by. And Erica's like, yeah, let him bear the responsibility of those children. He's not going to do it. He won't do it. Come on. Yeah, I'd like to pile on. please call his bluff, like, send them to Florida and be like, when you get there,

you're going to love Florida so much. You'll be like paralyzed. You'll be like dead. Like, look at that flamingo. That flamingo is dead and you're dead and we're all dead in Florida together because it's so amazing. And he's not going to show up. And if he does, it's like one night on the way to like San Trope, which by the way, San Trope, I die. I love it so much. So everybody, Doreet's furious. She's just yelled at Kyle and everybody's like, okay. And Carl just gets up and she's like, yeah, um, I don't want to talk about this. I don't think. I can talk about that situation anymore, ah, and walks away. And Jennifer's just like, okay, well, I guess another party's over.

Another successful party. I would like to thank all the penises from coming, whatever. And you just see that one of the guys still out in the back swimming in the pool of the kid, like doing butterflies, angels. So Kyle, of course, makes herself the victim in this. She's like, DeReed responds differently to me whenever I make a suggestion versus the other lady. but like the other women have never met PK and whatever Doreet says they just say yes

like what an asshole, what a narcissist. I can't help that I have like met this person, have had experiences with this person and see him in a different light. That has nothing to do with you being a good girlfriend. Like we've all met people who we've liked and then our primary friend breaks up with them and you take your friend's

side. Sorry, that's just what you do. Yeah, stupid Kyle. So now we go to Kyle and Erica over at Kyle's house for the Kyle set, the Kyle Pity scene. So Erica comes over, who really is who you want when you want to talk about something emotional. You know what? Get Erica. Get Erica over here immediately.

So they sit outside and rocking chairs and Kyle's wearing like pilot glasses, but clear. And she's like, so, you know, go ahead, Ben, what? Oh, I just said I liked them. That's it. I just added an editorial comment. Yeah. So, like, I was telling her, like, you know, about guys taking off their robes. and she was like, um, so you had to draw a wiener, and I was like, it's been a long time since I've seen any, so, huh. Well, you're right, it has been. But that can all change now that you're single. So there you go. Am I setting you up to discuss anything now, Kyle? I'm just so sick of people asking you about my dating life, you know, like, Erica, like, if you were seeing someone that you cared about very much that specifically says, you know, like, please, like, you know, I'm not part of this group. And, you know, like, you know, I'm not part of this group. And, you know, you know, know, like, be respectful.

Like, would you betray that person just because people are curious? She was literally married to that person. Did you not watch your own show, Kyle? Erica's like, I will protect that person for sure. She's like, well, I mean, like, I've always told everybody just to be honest. And I'm always an honest person, you know, and I'm not a liar. But, you know, I don't know what people want for me. I'm single now.

Okay. Like, you know, I was just, I was seeing someone who I cared about very much, but dot, dot, dot, dot. So this is the other thing. She's like, well, you know, I'm not a part. If you were seeing somebody that you cared very much about, that says to me that she's still with this person and she can't talk about it. But then she's like, well, but then we broke up, I guess.

So from this, we're taking that she was seeing Morgan. Morgan didn't want to be out of the closet. So Kyle had to keep it in the closet. And then Morgan dumped her anyway because she's on a show. I think, no, Morgan was out of the closet. I think it was that Morgan was uncomfortable with being thrust into the spotlight or maybe didn't anticipate it.

No, Morgan's not out of the closet. Really? No, yeah, she's not, she's not gay or by. She's just, she doesn't, she refuses to talk about it in her own interviews and stuff. I think the last time she ever talked about a relationship was a boyfriend who's in her band. He's like one of the guys in her band.

And they used to be in a relationship and that ended. And that was when she was younger. So she hasn't talked about it. Yeah, she doesn't talk about it. So, yeah, she's closeted. That's what Kyle said. She's like, I'm dating a, I'm dating a closeted person, and they don't want to be out of the closet. And so shouldn't I respect that?

I mean, that does, in my mind, that does add, like, a wrench into all my previous pontificating. Because you don't want to out someone. Yeah, that's a real humding. It doesn't change what I was saying, because, I mean, I already knew that. So to me, it's still the same thing. It's like, okay, but you're, you're. You're the one who doesn't want to talk about it, but you still brought it on TV and then did that video where you were, like, in a bathtub and making out with Kyle and then doing all that. So, like, I get it, but it's like you're having fun with the hinting about it, but you don't want to talk about it.

But this is like a reality show where you talk about things. Yeah. I mean, well, it affects what I said before, but I was like, wow, she can't, Kyle can't even say that she's like in a relationship with a woman. Okay, I understand that. I understand not wanting to out someone. And I think that's, that's fine. Um, but I, I'm, I'm surprised. I was, I thought, I always thought Morgan Wade was an out and crowd lesbian and I did not realize that she is actually like, we don't know what her sexuality is.

Oh, yeah, yeah. She's still closeted. So she says that, um, when she was married, when she was separating from, oh, you just said she's still closeted. She is. No, it's funny because it's like, we're not going to out anyone. We're not going to out. she's still closeted because that's what's talking about that's what's so ridiculous about this whole thing is like oh my god you guys we can't talk about morgan's being gay but we all know that she is at least by but we can't say that like it has to be it's like this um it's like being in the being out in the closet it's like being out of the closet but not having to suffer the repercussions of it in some way it's like okay i don't know how to explain it but obviously she's talking about morgan so she still is to talking about this relationship.

Like, everyone's not stupid. They know, we all know what she's talking about. But by not saying Morgan, she technically didn't out her, so it's okay. It's like, what is this? You're already talking about it. No, I'm just laughing at the idea of like being, you know, like respectful, being like, hey, it's not up to us to out someone and everyone's on their own journey. So we're not going to speculate on someone's sexuality because she's still closet in.

Well, I know. It's basically saying, like, we know what you are, you know. Well, because you're saying it because it's on the show. It's just how they're presenting it. And that's what I was saying at the beginning. Normally, my stance is like we shouldn't out people. You know, like I go with that stance. That's like a pretty normal stance in our community.

But this case is different because they themselves have presented it differently. And now it's this big word salad that we're all supposed to say so that you don't actually have to suffer the repercussions, even though you guys are the ones who did it. And you guys are also making it sound like being gay is this huge villainous. It's becoming worse, in other words. Like, you not talking about it is making it worse for everybody involved. Like, at this point, just for fuck's sake, just say, we dated, but we don't want to talk about it. Because, like, at this point, you're just making us all do somersaults over your stupid decisions. I know.

I will also say, like, if you happen to be someone who is in the closet and you decide to date a reality star, maybe don't do that. if you're not going to be in the closet anymore. I respect someone like coming out on their own terms or even never coming out at all. But like also like, you know, consider these things if you want to stay in the closet. Maybe don't make like videos with you where it's about. You know, just just consider consider these options. Don't do scenes where you're like feeding each other on camera and giggling with your arms around each other. stuff like that, like if you're not worried about it. But yeah. So she says since separating from Mo,

she was in a relationship. And she was, and by the way, it was before separating from Mo, just to correct the record. And she's like, and I was at a very vulnerable place. She was at a very vulnerable place and she fell really hard. And, you know, she's in love with somebody. She wants to share that because she's an open person, but it doesn't mean the person she's with feels the same way. So I'm guessing what happens. All my judgment aside, I'm guessing what happens. She starts DMing this chick on Instagram. They start hanging out. They start flirting.

They start maybe hooking up now and then. And it was a fun, flirty thing. Like, oh, there's all these rumors about us now. Let's make this music video just making fun of the rumors because that would be fun. And then it backfires to where everyone's like, oh, my God, Morgan's a lesbian. And then it has to become this big PR thing because she's in country music. And then it becomes this nightmare for her. And then it's like, okay, well, let's just not talk about it anymore, which didn't work.

because that was a whole year of people questioning it. And so, I mean, I get how it would be a conundrum for Kyle. Yeah, 100%. And that's why it, like, throws a wrench into everything that I was thinking and saying earlier because before I was thinking that Kyle was in a relationship with an out person. And so her being, like, KG, like, did not really make sense. But if her coming out, then makes forces someone else out that is a much more indelicate situation. So I have to like, I have to like go back into into my fortress of solitude and consider my stance on this because I think it's actually, it's more, it's more complex than like a sort of like a flip-in off-the-cuff hot take, you know, deserves or I should say not deserves, but like then it deserves more than like an off-the-take off-the-cuff take.

But I'm like, I'm clearly like so surprised about this. Like I really cannot believe it. Anyway, so Kyle is going and she's saying, she's like, oh, the speculation, all the talking is what ultimately ended in. And I could have weathered the storm, but this is not for everyone. I'm like, well, yeah, the speculation, yeah, I guess what bothers me is I hate how she turns it on us. Like, we destroyed this thing that she had. That's what's making me crazy. Like, stop making me feel bad that you did this. You did it.

I don't care if you're gay. I literally don't care. I mean, if Kyle came out and Morgan came out, I would be rooting for both of them, even though Kyle makes me crazy. Like I would, I think that that that would be ballsy. But the way you're doing it is not ballsy. And it's not like you have a responsibility to come out and all that stuff. But you're the one who set this up. And now you're making us feel bad about it.

And that's, I just don't like that. Like, stop criminalizing everybody else. You guys did this to yourself. Now, just proud already and stop. And if country music is going to be that way, it's too late. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Okay. So tell country music to fuck the fuck off and get on with your life.

This is to, don't live in fear like this. It's crazy. And stop trying to appease a community that you think will not accept you because, you know, like, that's no way to live either. So Kyle is like, she's like, well, I don't understand. It's like people think they're owed an answer. And if it was only me, I would give all the answers that they want. But it's just like not only about me.

It's just, well, there are two people here, not just one person. Thank you, Erica, for half listening to whatever Kyle's saying and giving that very perfunctory amount of advice. Yeah. But also to what Kyle's saying, you, you. you've got a choice to make. You're either going to go for the love or you're going to go for the, for the, and I'm not saying like you should do it over someone you're just dating.

Like I'm not saying she should have done this years ago. But if it's to the point now where you can't be a reality star because you can't talk about your life or you can't be with like the love of your life, like choose, choose one, you know? Like just choose. Or maybe she did. And that's why she's sad. Yeah. But Kyle is the one who's often pressed people for answers for years and years and years.

And now she's like, people want answers. and sometimes they're just our own answers. I'm like, well, that's what's also frustrating because you're being inconsistent with us. So Eric is saying, imagine getting out of close to a 30-year-in-marriage, unexpectedly fall in love with someone, but you can't talk about that love

because you've decided to put it out in front of everyone, but you can't talk about it. That's a really hard place to be. Even though this relationship is over, the women are still going to question, Kyle, until she addresses it once and for all and clears everything up. So, Kyle's like,

I mean, if this person weren't so afraid of public, scrutiny in life under a microscope and Erica's like, well, when you love someone and you're projecting someone, it sucks because you can't be free. And she says that until, she says, Kyle is the most honest with herself she's ever been.

And she's open and understanding and finally willing to be vulnerable. You're in the rock and a hot place, Kyle. I don't really know what to say these things. I'm just going to kind of just say something. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Can't have to take it. too. No soliciting. I read that one on a door. I really like that.

Meza Mahado. Which means wet floor. Yeah. So I don't know. So this was the coming out of coming out as being in the closet episode. I guess is what we can call it. I'm out of the closet about being in the closet. Where's my float? So I guess we'll see what happens on that end. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for being here. Please don't forget to join. join us on Monday for both Amazon Live and Crappy Hour, our last crappy hour of the year. We can't wait. Check our social media for the times, et cetera, uh, at Watch What Crappins. And we will catch you on Monday. Bye. Bye.

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