Watch What Crappens - #3115 RHOBH S15E02 Part 2 : Whine, Lose, or Draw

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

This is part 2 of 2Jennifer Tilly hosts a sip ‘n’ draw party on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills where the group meets newbie Amanda. Afterwards, Kyle inches closer to sharing her truth about her dating life. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, hello and welcome to watch what happens. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.

Okay, let's go back to the scene. So she's like, I'm best known for my never-ending coffee cup, rich as fuck, which helps women redefine the, their relationship with money and manifest stuff when it's inadvertently has given me the nickname the money queen you call yourself the money queen i know your boyfriend gave you that your boyfriend gave you that on Santa Monica Boulevard he's like hey money queen oh my god he's the one so she's like what do you guys doing this weekend it sounds like well we're going to a party it's a small party it's it my friend my friend's house jennifer tilly okay it's the boho cheek sit

in the chair party she just it's it's it's it's a and chairs. That's what she does. So look, it's sip and draw. Okay. You ever heard of that? Manifesty Fest? This is the first time we've actually just seen sit and draw. Normally we see the painting, but this time they're like, uh-uh, we are not getting paint on our clothing. It'll be a draw colored pencils. That's it. So Amanda's like, so where are you from? She's like, I got to Georgia. You know, oh my God, I'm from Sand Springs, Oklahoma. She says it like, oh my God, so close. And you sees suddenly be like, those places are not close to each other whatsoever. You are not going to compare Georgia to Oklahoma, okay?

Different part of the same. That's one thing we're not going to do today. Missy, Missy, Manifester. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And she's like, well, yeah. Yeah, San Springs, though, you've heard of it, right? She's like, oh, stop it.

I only know Oklahoma when you stop to get gas there. And Amanda's like, what? Oh, right, because it's in the middle, like you stop in the plane. between Oklahoma or tech. Okay, I get it. Sun's like, yeah, because she's, clearly Amanda's trying to do a, we're both from the south,

or we're like, we're in the south or red state or trying to do some sort of like alliance. Southern. Yeah, and Sun's like, yeah, but I mean, the posh south and you're in the flyover, Exxon for airplane south. Maybe you can find someone who's having a painting party that's from Missouri or something.

Okay. Hold on. I'm going to go talk to Kyle and then I'm going to come and talk to you for one second and then go back to talking to Kyle. We call that stop over. That's what your state is. But no one's really nice to Amanda at first, which cracks me up. I think Kyle's like, this bitch who tore up my floors is coming on the show, you guys. What are we going to do?

Well, we'll shame her for only getting gas where she comes from. I got your back, bitch. I got your bag. Well, remember when Vicki Gunwelson got to so much trouble for calling Oklahoma a flyover, state. She's like, why would I go there? Like, why would I get? Why's I had to go to Oklahoma? You just fly over it. I just look down on it. Like, you just fly over it. Why would you ever stop there? And everyone got so mad at her. So now we go to Bose's house. And it's a sweet scene with her daughter, Lale.

She's like, where's my brush? And Lail has it. Okay. Let's have a hairdoing scene. So they talk about how Bose wants to be proposed to or whatever. And they talk about boys and stuff. Lale wants Keeley to ask her first before he proposes to Bose. So that's what she wants. And Bose is saying

how the three of them have developed a really sweet little relationship together. And, you know, and she's like, I love that you want him to ask me your permission. Like, oh, you're my dad? That's great. And she's really proud of Lail for being like, I want, I'm proud of her for taking

this stance, but I really hope the answer is yes. Because if she says no, Mama's not going to be happy. Yeah, could you imagine? I want him to ask my permission so I can say no. And she's like, well, just make sure before he proposes that I've gotten my nails done. They need to be fresh within the past couple of days. So it's pretty cute. And then we go over to Erica's and she's getting glam.

And I just, it cracks me up how Erica's energy is just so different when she's around the gays. When she's around the other women, she's like, hello, I'm doing fine. Thank you very much. Going through a traumatic time. And when she's with the gays, like, oh, yeah. Wow. Like everything about her is just so different. She's like, we're going to tell his house and we're going to paint a draw.

You know, I can't do that shit. Come on, gays. What do I do? He's like, oh, my God, are you going to have to, like, abstract, have an abstract approach to it, and they all crack up. Like, it's the funniest thing. Like, oh, yeah, abstract drawing. That's a hilarious.

So now at Rachel's house, she's in her glam. And the guy's like, or whoever the makeup artist is, is like, will there be like a naked man that you're drawing? She's like, oh, my God, I hope not. Like, I die. Because like, if it's Raj, oh, my God, if it's Raj naked, I'll literally die. I'll be, like, paralyzed.

I don't, I can't. I'm like, not going to draw that. Like, what is this? Like, the Titanic? Yeah, like, what is this the Titanic? I'm literally frozen to death underwater. Like I can't. Yeah.

So, Doreet's house, she's like, I'm in Vintage McQueen. And her stylist is like, please don't wear that lo-boo-boo. Please. Why don't she like me, Lubu-boo? It's the only way to keep P.K.

Close to you, Doreet. Just let it go. We see a shot of it, and it does look like Pek. Yeah. I am so excited for a few years from now when people look back at the Laboooo craze and just, like,

laugh at all the way. healthy people who put these stupid things on their airmes bags. I hope that whoever invented those comes on real house size of Beverly Hills. Like, I'm the queen of money. I got a bunch of idiots to buy ugly stuffed animals for like $1,000. Now I'm rich as hell. Like, it's one thing, like, I get, like, toy fads. Like, that's, like, I get it.

But it's just so funny that these people are so status-driven that they are like, I am going to attach this stuffed goblin. on to my Airmes bag. It's like this little pointy teeth and like a like a face like it's like a where's the wild things are. It's like a Maurice Sendat like stuffed plushy and people are just attaching it to their airmes bags. It's like the funniest concept.

And you know when everyone looks back at their pictures of like, this was me and my peak and look at the glamorous life eyelids. Like why do you have that strange thing attached to your bag? It's like, we're not talking about that anymore. Yeah. Oh, Lebobo. So now we go over to Jennifer's and she's like, well, I really wanted to have a party like to kick off the summer, you know, because I did miss Kyle's summer whatever party outside doing crafts or I don't know what it was, but I know my last party at Caviar Caspia did not turn out so well. So I'm going to have a drawing party because everybody loves. art. So I had a little surprise for the girls. Actually, it's a big surprise. It's nice to have her back. What a welcome. God, well, thank God. What a breath of fresh air. So, um, uh, her assistant is like, oh, well, there's some caviar. I said, what, oh, God, am I made out of money?

Apparently. So Erica arrives and Rachel and Jennifer's like, I've mentioned, I've met you of at Rachel socially, and I've gone to some events that she's at, and I'm a little bit in awe of her because she's one of the most famous stylists in Hollywood, so I'm a little bit intimidated by how super cool she is. I just would love to see Rachel have, like, a face-to-face with a chunky doll, because I feel like Rachel would, like, not know what to do. She's like, literally, that doll is like, it's like, I die. It's not going to kill me. Like, is that, Raj? Is that Caius? Are you there? Speak to me, Guyus.

I think you could do with like pleated pants. It's like trying to give advice to Cheki. I'm not against plugs for men, but maybe like a little more subtlety would work. So she comes in and then Bose and Sutton come and Kyle. And then Amanda comes. Oh, a stranger is going to come into our midst. Sutton invited her friend Amanda. So then Rachel's looking around.

They're just like, wow, I think everyone did boho chic like really differently, which is her way of being like, you guys all did it wrong. Yeah, you guys all look like shit. I'm the expert. Everyone else is wearing a potato sack and she comes in like this gold flowy dress. She's like, oh, so I guess we took this directive a little bit differently. So Jennifer is like, Amanda, you know what you look like in 1985 Chanel? where you had all the chelel models and motorcycle jackets and the sort of ball gowns. It's a fabulous look.

She's like, oh, my God, 1985, that was the year that I was born in pretty much the same state of Sutton. That's crazy. Oh, 1988, really? And she's like, yeah, 85. I was in Hollywood selling sandwiches out of a hamper. Ten cents a sandwich, 25 cents a salad, so I would push the salads because I would make more money.

While she was struggling to get out of the womb, I was just struggling. So then to reach shows up. I like that they make 1985 sound like the 1910s. 10 cents a sandwich. What? Sandwiches were not 10 cents in 1985. What is this?

Doreet shows up and calls like, Hi, Doreet. This is Amanda. She bought my house in Bel Air for me. Yeah. You may have seen her destroying the iconic floors, you know, checkerboard floors. Remember her?

Yeah, she's in my house. Yeah, she basically works for me at this point. Yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. This is her. Yeah, go meet her. Oh, well, how many kids do you have,

Amanda? And she's like, I have four. And Rachel's like, you have four kids. You were, like, just born. She's like, yeah, well, I mean, the older two are my stepkids, and they're nine and seven. And Bo goes, oh, so they're his kids? And she goes, well, I'm raising them. They're my stepchildren.

She goes, oh, well, I don't know if I like that. I don't know if I like another woman calling my daughter, her daughter. There's only one mama, and that's me. Damn. Coming for the step, mom. I know. I know. Wow.

I don't think that was cool. I mean, what do step parents say? Don't they say they're my kids? Yeah, well, I, I don't know. I, I don't know. I think some say they're my stepkids and then some will say it's a blended family. I think it depends on how long or how intimate the relationship is, right? Because they're definitely step parents who just refer to their stepchildren as their kids.

So I don't know. But just wouldn't it be bitchy if you were like, how many kids do you have? And then she was like, well, I mean, I have two kids, but then, you know, I also have two other kids at my house. Like, I have step kids. Yeah, I agree. I think it's like, like, it's like, you. You want to treat all the kids as like, like, there's no difference. And so Bose is, you know, Bose being like, oh, you mean they're not yours.

I was like, oh, I feel like this will be a, this will be an issue going forward. It's going to be an issue. Amanda, you see it in Amanda's face. It's like, okay, the first time I'm on camera with them, they dis Oklahoma and call it a place to get gas. And the second time I'm with them, they diss me for saying I'm a mother of stepchildren. So you see, you see the point start. All right alling in that brain. So Jennifer's like,

Okay, well, the invitation said sip and draw, and we've already been sipping. So now it's time for the drawing portion, everybody. So let's go outside and look at some penises. And they go outside and guys drop their robes, and there's a lot of weeners hanging out. And let me just say, I'm glad we're not painting teeth or cheekbones

because these men were all about the weeners. Otherwise, it would look like a Laboo Boo Boo painting party. Yeah, yeah, it was a lot. So it was a naked Laboo painting party. Yeah, so Erica's like, well, I'll take a bag of dicks over a bowl of fruit any day. Who cares about Still Life? I was married to that for long enough. So then...

I'm still trying to get a divorce from Still Life. They're drawing, and Eric is like, oh, that one over there is not circumcised. And Kyle's like, I mean, I'm not. I've never had a mushroom, but like, now might be the time to try one. So now there's drinks and stuff, and they're all cracking up and be like, oh, my God, penises. We are scandalized. So Amanda's like, so do you guys have a mocktail of some kind I can have? And it's like, oh, boo, you've got to drink alcohol.

I mean, unless you call. She's like, it's not exactly that I don't drink ever. It's just that I prefer not to drink, but I don't know who Eric. is to think she could comment on my not drinking. Am I going to be shame for good life choices? Is that her MO? I was like, oh, I love that bitchy response. That was so perfect.

I'm going to be shame for good life choices. I'm going to start making a list of shit that Amanda is going to consider extremely rude. So living in Oklahoma, gas, I'm going to put. Okay, what was the second thing? stepchildren stepchildren and then mocktail shaming mocktail shaming I think we should start keeping a tally because you know this is going to come up in a fight and I want to see how many we get like our bingo card of like what is the thing that she's going to finally burst her and then she's going to list all of these other things so one of the models is has taken this pose where he has put like his hand on the lower part of his back and is arching his back and you know You know, and Jennifer goes up. Girl, can we just talk about this pose?

He sits on the chair backwards and then sticks his ass all the way out. It's like, is this a cherry boys? What are we painting here, sir? Put your cornhole away. So Jennifer's like, I really like your pose. Can you hold that for a long period of time? And he's like, no, it hurts. It hurts.

It hurts. Amanda was really funny with them. She's like, okay, so, wait, I just, sorry, I just accidentally scrolled. What did she say? Okay, she's like, so what about, she's like, has anyone ever ogled you in a way that made you feel uncomfortable? No. Have you ever gotten a boner? No.

Have you ever considered your life choices? No. Have you heard of Oklahoma? Yes. Okay, I will draw your penis. Are you a stepchild? So they, they, you know. Pencils down, hands up.

So everyone's showing each other their drawings. They're just laughing. And Erica's like, you can tell who's not having sex based on these pictures. And- Eric's like, like, balls dragging, like, a mile behind the guy. Jennifer's like, I definitely do not think that we have unearthed any artistic geniuses. None of these girls are particularly going to be the next Monet.

So they pick Rachel as the winner. And she's like, wow, literally just flatlined. So then they go inside to get dessert and catch up. So Jennifer asks Bose how his man is. Oh, that's a cute. And Kyle, are you dating now? And she's like, what? What?

Am I dating? Dating? That's crazy. No, I'm not. No, what? Dates? I love dates. The fruit, that is.

I'm not a fruit. Wait, that's like, no, wait, what, huh? So Bose. Like, here we go again. Why does she have to be such a freak every time they ask her? Just say, no, not right. Like, I'm lightly dating, but nobody important right now. Like, why does she have?

She's like, oh, my God, I'm dating. Gets this deer in the headlights look. And then it's like, oh, my God, why is everybody asking about me? Because you look like you're about to have a heart attack every time they ask you. Yeah. She is so unprepared for the nosiest questions that she, by the way, always asks everyone else all the time. So Bo's like, here we go again. Why can't we just get to the heart to the matter?

Everybody's seen the pictures. We've heard the rumors. Like, you know, either kill it all together or admit to it. So, Kyle's like, Doreet, have you gone on any dates? And she's like, no, because my husband is too busy torturing me just this morning, an entire package of chicken salad around at the doorstep. Why does he keep buying it and sending me the bill? And then sending me the chicken salad, too. It's crazy. The demented games he plays. Oh, is he back in L.A. right now? Because I haven't checked my location today. Oh, yes, he's back in laugh. He came back after being gone two weeks in Europe. My kids are supposed to go to Florida with a grand prunes, and they're so excited to going to Florida.

But now, P.K., I got a letter today from the lawyer saying, Pekke is going to bloke it. Hmm? Right? From going? From going. Yes. Yes, this is true. Just to be mean.

God, I love that, man. I love that. And Doreet's like, yes. just to me mean, and Jagger has been walking around like he's got the weight of the world. Have I mentioned the weight of the world yet today? Way to the world! I don't see my son anymore. I just see a world and two little feet under it, because the world is on top of him.

Do you know how heartbreaking that is for a mother, and he's been asking for my dad, and he's asking for my dad, and not his own father, for my father. Sabah, just like the hummus. And you know what? Five minutes after him arriving, Jagger came into that, into like the same boy that I've been familiar with. Do you know what that's like for me? And going to sleep every night thinking, my God, how are they going to be

affected? Gee! I don't even recognize my son anymore. He went from being little sweet jigger to the Monopoly man and the go-to-jail card. It was so sad. But then he heard Sava and he's Beckton Humble.

Like, okay. And so Carl hugs her and sounds like, well, I'm just breathless watching Dorit. Crumble in front of everybody. This is good. She's like, the emotions are taking me back. It's like a time machine. I want to cry with her. It's just heartbreaking, but also really fun.

It's like beaches, basically. It breaks your heart by the end, but you want to watch it over and over again. Guys, my kids, they need love and support. And just to be around family, and this is the first time I'm seeing the impact of mine and BK's divorce, and it's ripping my heart out of my chest. It just feels like whatever I'm doing is not enough. Some would say he has the weight of the world on him.

Um, so he just wants to be around family, but I mean, P.K.'s is dad. Like, isn't the, like, isn't part of the argument that she doesn't see, that he doesn't see the kids. So I guess he's wanting to see the kids. But like, P.K., you're gone all the time and you were just in your for two weeks. They can go to fucking Florida. Okay. Exactly. I think the point.

Give me a break. Yeah, he's the dad. But like, suddenly he wants to step up to the plate right when she's planned something nice for the kid. And the kids, like, they're like, they need to go to. Florida with grandpa. Yeah, I see that. And then suddenly Peket is going to swoop in. No, like we all know it's a game.

It's manipulative. By the way, I may make fun of Doreet, but like, and I think I speak for both of us probably that we're like, 100% team to read on this. Oh, I'm 100. We've said get rid of that man for years. Yeah, 110,000%. Yeah, I still can't wait for Peket to go to jail someday. I know it's going to happen.

I know it's going to happen. Although Dorete's pretty full of shit herself, but still, team to read over PK. It's time for commercial it's time for a crap and's commercial well it's too overwhelming to think about everything so if the most immediate thing right now is getting your kids to florida so they can have a good time let's solve i get those children to florida the florida mandate the only show where people are trying to flee to florida right now i know right today's climate

like oh let's get to florida so um yeah um um And Doreet's like, yeah, he called up. He spoke to Phoenix. And he said, okay, well, if they're going, then daddy's going to come to Florida too. And we'll all stay in a hotel. And you'll be with me. And Kyle says, well, maybe by him going, I mean, if you have to meet in the middle, like, if he wants to go to Florida and stay in a hotel, then I mean, why can't he do that? And Doreet's like, I don't think you understand.

Kyle. I'm not dealing with someone who's like, oh, let's meet in the middle. Yeah, but he's saying if he's going to go to Florida and like at a hotel, I mean, let him do that. I mean, that's kind of a win. Like, they can go see there and see the grandparents and see him. Kyle, Kyle's such a great friend. Sometimes I forget how good of a friend Kyle is until she steps up in moments like these.

Gosh, what I would do to have a Kyle in my life. Yeah. And she's like, but they don't want you, Kyle. It's like, I'm just trying to find a way, like to be in the middle, like meet in the middle. She's like, he's doing it to hurt me, Kyle. She's like, okay, like, look, we're not saying, I mean, look, maybe he is, maybe he's not. I mean, I don't know. Like, Kyle, I mean, even if you think that, look, I think any reasonable advice would be like, okay, well, the complaint is, okay, I'm not going to call it reasonable. I would say I was thinking, okay, you're, you say the dad doesn't want to see the kids. So he does want to see the kids. If he's offering to go to Florida, that doesn't have to be so. I don't think the actual advice of it is that terrible. But I do think it's her tone. Right. It's, I don't think the advice is that terrible. But you're clearly in a position. You're in a bad position with Doreen already.

because you were cozying up to her husband and kind of taking his side, which appeared to be taking his side over her. And now she's freaking out over this last thing after he hasn't seen the kids for God knows how long. You don't even talk to her anymore. And you're going to try and be friends with her. And this is the way you're going to do it. I mean, whether you're right or you're wrong with your advice, sometimes it's best to just say, how can I support you?

You know what I mean? Because this is crazy. And the thing is what Kyle needs to do, which is what the rest of them do, is you can kind of give the same advice, but you do it in a way that's like, fuck him. You say, well, then you know what, you know what, Doreet, then you send those kids to Florida. And if he wants to show up in a hotel, he can do it,

and that's his choice, but you send your kids to Florida, which is essentially the same thing. But Kyle, her tone is more like, well, Doreet, let's not be unreasonable here. Let's not be crazy. You don't know if he's trying to hurt you. Like, you're taking this out of context, which is so dismissive.

And like, you want your girlfriend to be like, fuck him. And if he wants to do this, then, And fuck him and it'll be on him, but you keep doing what you do because this is your life and you're an independent lady now. Like, that's the vibe that like Doreate wants from her friends and what she deserves. But Kyle's just like treating her like an imbecile, which I mean, Doreet is an imbecile, but you don't want to hear that from your friend. Yeah. I mean, wow.

And especially when you see it going bad and that she's getting upset to be like, oh, well, is he doing it to hurt you? Maybe, maybe not. You know, no. No. Like there's the time you just back down and say she's really upset. How do I support you? That's it. That's all you need to do here. It's not that hard, especially in front of a group of people. You know what I mean? Like if you're having a conversation, if you're with a friend who's going through divorce, my sister went through a divorce last year. And so there's a lot of discussion about divorce and like, what's the right way to deal with this? And what's the right way to deal with this, you know, without villainizing the guy to the kids and like, how do we go about this in the best way? And there's advice maybe she didn't, want to hear, but there would never be a time where I would be in front of anybody doing that to her. You know what I mean? It's almost like you support your partner in this situation, my sister.

You support your friend always publicly. And if you have anything where maybe you're going a little wrong or maybe you're overreacting, you do it in private. I mean, what the hell? And I shouldn't have to teach a girl this. This is like girl code. Yeah. Well, don't forget, Kyle's kind of having the best divorce in history.

so like, huh, like she leads by example. And also, when you haven't even spoken to her, Kyle, like that's the other thing. Like,

you're coming to this after not even speaking to her since the last season, after you took his side then, and you're coming back and you're immediately taking his side again. Like, oh. Well,

I think in Kyle's mind, she's saying what you really need now is like a cool head and don't leave the worse in your ex because, like, the way to get to healthy co-parenting is to actually have

to give people the benefit of the doubt, don't feel nice. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But that's not what, that's not what DeRite wants her needs right now. I was just being a shitty friend to DeRite once again, as she has been for the past three seasons. So, DeReed. Yeah, Doreet's like, really? You could actually have the audacity to say, well, maybe and maybe not.

Do you know how to ever show up 100% ever? I'm broken. What more proof do you need? Little jabs, little jabs. That's all I get. You have known me almost 10 years. And how many times have you seen me this way? to be fair, like literally

like every episode, Doreet's like And then I went to get a yogurt and they were sold out I didn't believe it, they went, they were sold as a crystal bomb. I said to the TV like for four years, what are you talking about? And Doreet's like, Seam, if you're going to help me out, put yourself in me shoes.

You have a nine-year-old and a something year old, that girl, I'm not sure, around there. And they're leaving in 48 hours. And you're telling them they're leaving. And you're telling them to stay with your daddy, see your daddy, and they're crying and says begging and saying, No, not pity. He tried to call me a funion and eat me whole.

Please not, Diddy? That's what you think I should do, Coyle? And Blue's like, well, you need to let him be the bearer the bad news. And Amanda's like, yeah, let him either show up or not manifest that bitch. I'm putting that on a glass. And Jennifer was like... And like I said, yeah, this was the best advice. If he wants to be the bad guy in this situation and change everything up, then that's great.

Let him do it. It's not your responsibility to do it. You're the primary caregiver because he's never there. So you do what you're going to do is the primary caregiver. And then his ass can go ruin their dreams. Absolutely. And Jennifer's like, oh, there's crying and now there's yelling and this party has really taken a turn for the worst. And Amanda says, well, just prep them.

They're going with the grandparents and they're staying with them and then dad might stop by. And Erica's like, yeah, let him bear the responsibility of those children. He's not going to do it. He won't do it. Come on. Yeah, I'd like to pile on, please. Call his bluff. Like, send them to Florida and be like, when you get there, you're going to love Florida so much.

You'll be like paralyzed. You'll be like dead. Like, look at that flamingo. That flamingo is dead and you're dead and we're all dead in Florida together because it's so amazing. And he's not going to show up. And if he does, it's like one night on the way to like San Trope, which, by the way, Centrape, I die. I love it so much. Doreet's furious. She's just yelled at Kyle.

And everybody's like, okay. And Carl just gets up. And she's like, yeah, I don't want to talk about this. I don't think I can talk about that situation anymore. And walks away. And Jennifer's just like, okay, well, I guess another party's over. Another successful party. I would like to thank all the penises from coming, whatever. And you just see, that one of the guys still out in the back swimming in the pool, like doing butterflies, angels. So Kyle, of course,

makes herself the victim in this. She's like, Doreet responds differently to me whenever I make a suggestion versus the other ladies. But like the other women have never met PK. And whatever Doreet says, they just say yes. Like, what an asshole,

what a narcissist. I can't help that I have like met this person, have had experiences with this person and seem in a different light. That has nothing to do with you being a good girlfriend. Like, we've all met people who we've liked. and then our primary friend breaks up with them and you take your friend's side. Sorry.

That's just what you do. Yeah, stupid Kyle. So now we go to Kyle and Erica over at Kyle's house for the Kyle sat, the Kyle pity scene. So Erica comes over, who really is who you want when you want to talk about something emotional. You know what? Get Erica. Get Erica over here immediately. So they sit outside and rocking chairs and Kyle's wearing like pilot glasses, but clear.

And she's like, so, you know, So go ahead, Ben, what? Oh, I just said I liked them. That's it. I just added an editorial comment. Yeah. So, like, I was telling her, like, you know, about guys taking off their robes. And she was like, so you had to draw a weener.

And I was like, it's been a long time since I've seen any. So, huh. Well, you're right. It has been. But that can all change now that you're single. So there you go. Am I setting you up to discuss anything now, Kyle? I'm just so sick of people asking you about my dating life, you know?

Like, Erica, like, if you were seeing someone that you cared about very much that specifically says, you know, like, please, like, you know, I'm not part of this group and, you know, like, be respectful. Like, would you betray that person just because people are curious? She was literally married to that person. Did you not watch your own show, Kyle? Erica's like, I will protect that person for sure. She's like, well, I mean, like, I've always told everybody just to be honest. And I'm always an honest person, you know, and I'm not a liar. But, you know, I don't know what people want for me.

I'm single now. Okay. Like, you know, I was just, I was seeing someone who I cared about very much, but dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. So this is the other thing. She's like, well, you know, you know, I'm not a part. This, if you were seeing somebody that you cared very much about, that says to me that she's still with this person and she can't talk about it. But then she's like, well, but then we broke up, I guess. So from this, we're taking that she was seeing Morgan.

Morgan didn't want to be out of the closet. So Kyle had to keep it in the closet. And then Morgan dumped her anyway because she's on a show. I think, no, Morgan was out of the closet. I think it was that Morgan was uncomfortable with being thrust into the spotlight or maybe didn't anticipate it. No, Morgan's not out of the closet. Really? No, yeah.

She's not, she's not gay or by. She's just, she doesn't, she refuses to talk about it. in her own interviews and stuff. I think the last time she ever talked about a relationship was a boyfriend who's in her band. He's like one of the guys in her band. And they used to be in a relationship and that ended. And that was when she was younger. So she hasn't talked about it.

Yeah, she doesn't talk about it. So yeah, she's closeted. That's what Kyle said. She's like, I'm dating a, I'm dating a closeted person and they don't want to be out of the closet. And so shouldn't I respect that? I mean, that does, in my mind, that does add like a wrench into all my. previous pontificating because you don't want to out someone. Yeah, that's a real humding.

Yeah, it doesn't change what I was saying because, I mean, I already knew that. So to me, it's still the same thing. It's like, okay, but you're the one who doesn't want to talk about it, but you still brought it on TV and then did that video where you were like in a bathtub and making out with Kyle and then doing all that. So like, I get it, but it's like you're having fun with the hinting about it, but you don't want to talk about it, but this is like a reality show where you talk about things. Yeah.

I mean, well, it affects what I said before when I was like, wow, she can't, Kyle can't even say that she's like in a relationship with a woman. Okay, I understand that. I understand not wanting to out someone. And I think that's, that's, that's fine. Um, but I, I'm, I'm surprised. I was, I thought, I always thought Morgan Wade was an out and crowd lesbian. And I did not realize that she is actually like, we don't know.

what her sexuality is. Oh, yeah, yeah. She's still closeted. So she says that when she was married, when she was separating from Mo. You just said she's still closeted. She is. No, it's funny because it's like, we're not going to out anyone. We're not going to out.

She's still closeted because that's basically a client. That's what's so ridiculous about this whole thing. It's like, oh, my God, you guys, we can't talk about Morgan's being gay, but we all know that she is at least by, but we can't say that. Like it has to be, it's like this, it's like being in the, being out in the closet, it's like being out of the closet, but not having to suffer the repercussions of it in some way. It's like, okay. I don't know how to explain it, but obviously she's talking about Morgan. So she still is talking about this relationship. Like everyone's not stupid. They know, we all know what she's talking about. But by not saying Morgan, she technically didn't out her. So it's okay. It's like, no, is this. You're already talking about it. No, I'm just laughing at the idea. of like being, you know, like respectful being like, hey, it's, it's not up to us to out someone and everyone's on their own journey. So we're not going to speculate on someone's sexuality because she's still closet. It's basically saying like, we know what you are.

Well, because you're saying it because it's on the show. It's just how they're presenting it. And that's what I was saying at the beginning. Normally, my stance is like we shouldn't out people, you know, like I go with that stance. That's like a pretty normal stance in our community. but this case is different because they themselves have presented it differently. And now it's this big word salad that we're all supposed to say so that you don't actually suffer the repercussions, even though you guys are the ones who did it. And you guys are also making it sound like being gay is this huge villainous. It's becoming worse, in other words. Like you not talking about it is making it worse for everybody involved.

Like at this point, just for fuck sake, just say, we dated, but we don't want to talk about it. Because like at this point, you're just making us all do somersaults over your stupid decisions. I know. I will also say, like, if you, if you happen to be someone who is in the closet and you decide to update a reality star, maybe don't do that if you're still. You're not going to be in the closet anymore. Don't just. I respect someone, like, coming out on their own terms or even never coming out at all. But, like, also, like, you know, consider.

these things if you want to stay in the closet. Maybe don't make like videos with you where it's about you know just just consider these options. Don't do scenes where you're like feeding each other on camera and giggling with your arms

around each other. You know stuff like that like if you're not worried about it. But yeah. So she says since separating from Mo she was in a relationship and she was and by the way it was before separating from Mo just to correct the record. And she's like, and I was at a very vulnerable place.

And she was at a very vulnerable place and she felt really hard. And, you know, she's in love with somebody. She wants to share that because she's an open person. But it doesn't mean the person she's with feels the same way. So I'm guessing what happens. All my judgment aside, I'm guessing what happens. She starts DMing this chick on Instagram. They start hanging out.

They start flirting. They start maybe hooking up now and then. And it was a fun, flirty thing like, oh, there's all these rumors about us now. let's make this music video just making fun of the rumors because that would be fun. And then it backfires to where everyone's like, oh, my God, Morgan's a lesbian. And then it has to become this big PR thing because she's in country music. And then it becomes this nightar for her. And then it's like, okay, well, let's just not talk about it anymore, which didn't work because that was a whole year of people questioning it.

And so, I mean, I get how it would be a conundrum for Kyle. Yeah, 100%. And that's why it, like, throws her wrench into everything that I was thinking and saying, earlier because before I was thinking that Kyle was in a relationship with an out person. And so her being like KG did not really make sense. But if her coming out then makes forces someone else out that is a much more indelicate situation. So I have to like I have to like go back into into my fortress of solitude and consider my stance on this because I think it's actually it's more it's more complex than like a sort of like a flip end off the cover. hot take, you know, deserves, or I should say not deserves, but like, then it deserves more than like an off the take, off the cuff take.

But I'm like, I'm clearly like so surprised about this. Like I really cannot believe it. Anyway, so Kyle is going and she's saying, she's like, oh, the speculation, all the talking is what ultimately ended in. And I could have weathered the storm, but this is not for everyone. I'm like, well, yeah, the speculation. Yeah. I guess what bothers me is I hate how she turns it on us. Like we destroyed this thing that she had.

That's what's making me crazy. Like stop making me feel bad. You did this. You did it. I don't care if you're gay. I literally don't care. I mean, if Kyle came out and Morgan came out,

I would be rooting for both of them, even though Kyle makes me crazy. Like I would, I think that that would be ballsy. But the way you're doing it is not balzy. And it's not like you have a responsibility to come out and all that stuff. But you're the one who set this up. And now you're making us feel bad about it.

And that's, I just don't like that. Like, stop criminalizing everybody else. You guys did this to yourself. Now, just proud already and stop. And if country music is going to be that way, it's too late. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Okay? So, no country music to fuck the fuck off and get on with your life.

This is to, don't live in fear like this. It's crazy. And stop trying to appease a community that you think will not accept you. Because, you know, like, that's no way to live either. So Kyle is like, she's like, well, I don't understand. It's like people think they're owed an answer. And if it was only me, I would give all the answers that they want. But it's just like not only about me.

Well, there are two people here. Not just one person. Thank you, Erica, for half listening to whatever Kyle's saying and giving that very perfunctory amount of advice. Yeah. But also to what Kyle's saying, you've got a choice to make. You're either going to go for the love or you're going to go for the, for the. And I'm not saying like you should do it over someone you're just dating. I'm not saying she should have done this years ago.

But if it's to the point now where you can't. be a reality star because you can't talk about your life or you can't be with like the love of your life like choose choose one you know like just choose or maybe she did and that's why she's sad yeah but kyle is the one who's often pressed people for answers for years and years and years and years and now she's like people want answers and sometimes they're just aren't answers i'm like well that's what's also frustrating because you're being inconsistent with us so erika saying imagine getting out of close to a 30 year in marriage unexpectedly fall in love with someone but you can't talk about that love because you decided to put it out in front of everyone, but you can't talk about it.

That's a really hot place to be. Even though this relationship is over, the women are still going to question Kyle until she addresses it once and for all and clears everything up. So Kyle's like, I mean, if this person weren't so afraid of public scrutiny and life under a microscope, and Erica's like, well, when you love someone and you're protecting someone, it sucks because you can't be free. And she says that until she says, Kyle is the. most honest with herself she's ever been, and she's open and understanding and finally willing

to be vulnerable. You're in the rock and a hot place, Kyle. I don't really know what to say these things. I'm just going to kind of just say something. That's the way the cookie crumbles. No soliciting. No soliciting. I read that one on a door.

I really like that. Beza Mahado. Which means wet floor. Yeah, so I don't know. So this was the coming out of coming out as. being in the closet episode. I guess is what we can call it. I'm out of the closet about being in the closet.

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