Watch What Crappens - #3119 Crappy Hour 12/15/25: Our Alison Roman Empire

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

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Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watcher Crapins ad free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Well, hello and welcome to Crappy Hour. I'm Ronnie. That's been over there. Hi, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. What's going on? Tell us what's going on tonight with you, you little buttercup. Well, I am very excited because A, it's always fun to do Crappy Hour. This is our last one of 2025. Another year has passed. But we are sending out the year with a big bang, a big old bang. First of all, there's actually some really good headlines, which we will get to a little bit. it later but first we have to welcome to the stage a very important person please welcome writer cookbook impresario and general icon alison roman hi alison hi alison hi hello

what's each of crappins i'm so happy to be here we yeah we're so excited to have you you i own you're one of the only cookbooks i own what a thrill what what prompted you to buy one the cookbook well because i got obsessed with you over covid and learned how to cook so many of your recipes and also i had started so late with you that i got to see so much of your evolution your different apartments stressed out in so many different tiny kitchens i will be stressed out in any any four walls put me anywhere and i'll stress out in it so nice stress room and i guess we should promote your new cookbook by the we didn't even ask us to do this but i'm doing it especially because I coincidentally am wearing the matching it you're both like matching it

actually this was not even planned I just put this on because it was like the closest sweater to put on today and then I was like guess what I'm wearing the colors for something from nothing which is like the sweater but this is your book that just came out like about a month ago right yeah it's like basically a month ago which feels like it's been out for 5,000 years because you talk about it for so long but like yes it technically speaking came out November 11th so just um fun fact about this this book came out November 11th and then like two days later we went off to Bravo con and i literally brought this to Bravo con i'm like you know my new alison roman cookbook is here and i'm just like not going to go off to Vegas and let that thing sit back there so i was literally on the plane to run

con with like cast members like like like nanny and nia from the valley were on the plane and like there were some other people Jen Fessler from Real House of New Jersey and like I don't care that there's Bravo Lebrities on this plane I literally brought this on the flight to Vegas and I sat there reading it to get my makes me so happy I you know what's funny I feel like

there's probably no place safer for me than like Bravo con like I can't I feel like the the crossover is is nary you know like you are the concept like this is the center of the vent diagram But, like, most, yeah, most reality, like, celebrity genre type people, I feel like are not dipping into my whatever, you know what I mean? What I have to offer.

Yeah, my ubra. I think there's, like, a lot of Bravo fans that are Alison Roman fans, for sure. Yeah, Bravo fans, for sure. But not Bravo Lebris, what do you call them, Bravo Lebrides? Well, the whole reason why we, like, created this while we, while we reached out to you is because I saw a picture of you with Heather Gay. I was going to say, Heather Gay is the one exception. But I think she sort of found out who I was, like, tangentially, like, through friends and was like, she seems awesome. Like, versus, like, oh, my God, this too.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So you might hurt. Which I'll take. She took my breath away. I mean. Really? Yeah.

She's amazing. I love it. So no other Bravo Lebrides have ever really reached out to you or anything like that? No, but did I, I probably didn't, I don't think I said this at the L.A. show, but or Ben, you were famously. But I was approached in, I want to say summer of 2020 or 2021. It may have been 2021. Yeah, 2021.

on. I was approached to, I was asked if I would consider perhaps auditioning. Yes. I was going to ask you, you would be perfect for this. I would be bad. No, you would be perfect because this one isn't like loony, cartoony older women like it has been for years. This one's like, they're like younger, influencer, cool chicks. Yeah, but I would I would so not fit in and I would get in so much trouble. because I just would not, I couldn't, I don't think I could do it. No, that's what it's about. Yeah, they break you down, Allison. They would break you down because you'd get too rattled and then they'd build you up.

You'd become a superstar. Tell you, do it. Do you think you'd be too honest and you'd hurt people's feelings or do you think people would be like mean to you and you would cry? Probably neither because I'm smart enough to not like, quote, be too honest. even like in the in the like room or it's just you and the it's like no of course that's not you can't say anything there either you can't say anything anywhere but i think that i would i would quickly like get worn down in the spiritual level like i would be like this is not and i can't be myself and i'm i'm a bird with wings that are clipped and i i have to fly and i can't fly here no they clip your wings on that channel and then

your wings come back bigger and stronger you know maybe you know i'm Honestly, in like 20 years, maybe that's my final form. But right now, I have too much living to do. I have too much living to do in our current, whatever. You know what I? Bravo would definitely, you're right. Bravo's not known for elevating people's spirits, like making them spiritually grow. It definitely is like a one way direction that you go in once you're on Bravo.

It's definitely like spiritually downward, you know, downward spiral in many different ways. So it definitely requires a certain sort of fortitude. but like ronnie said if you can like get through that you can yeah as an interesting form afterwards yeah i think i would just stick out really i i think it's like i was kind of shocked i wasn't insulted but i was surprised that somebody thought that that would be a good fit for me i wasn't insulted you know i was yeah i think it's like i think it's like one of those movies about basic training you know like an army movie where they're like oh whatever pussy you get down know you're like scream at you and like beat you and then run through the rain and then you come back

and you're like Colin what's his buns in that CIA movie where he's like all hot and then he can see out the side of his eyes yeah that's me which one of mine I the guy would you have not a basic training well you've kind of been because you've had controversy before I mean you had to weather like a total shit storm and you came out stronger after that it seems yeah and I think like having like knowing what the internet does to you no matter what you say like I wrote a newsletter once about, like, feeding my baby lentil soup. And the comment section were like, of course, you're feeding it. I was like, what are we doing here?

Like, you'll take the most lovely thing and, like, turn it into whatever. Like, do you remember that, remember that the woman on Twitter that was like, I love having coffee with my husband in my backyard every morning. It's so nice. And everyone's like, oh, must be nice. like cool life lady like people were so mad at her and she's like what are we said like nice thing to post in this economy exactly yeah so you know god bless god bless i didn't know anything about the arena i i'm in the arena not because it's where i want to be but because of it's where i

am yeah it's just where you were meant to be yeah because i was going to say the comment just reading comments on youtube videos on cooking videos and not just yours but i think universally people just are so nasty. Even cooking blogs that are some of the nicest people you see are like, I made this brownie for my children. Like, your brownie sucks. You're killing your children. You know, they're horrible. They can be horrible, you know. Yeah, I think that it's like a very interesting place that we are at as a society because it's very freeing for people to be their worst self when there are no consequences. And the internet is a playground. have no consequences. Like you can hop on and say the worst things you've ever thought and no one

even has to know that it's you. Like you can be the worst version of yourself publicly. And some people like, I guess really need that release. I personally don't feel that way. You know what spring is when you can be your worst self on the internet and people do know it to you. That's what I do every day. It's just because I can be. I have been at times. Yeah. I am jealous of people. you know that like feel that way and like behave that way not that i right like fighting like terrible impulses but it's more just like my whole like i i feel like in another life i would be a restaurant critic because i feel like i have really good opinions on restaurants so it makes them good or bad but i could never tell people why i think a restaurant is bad i could never

if you were to like yeah if you were just if you were to like weigh in on some restaurants people would just be like you think because you've already established herself as a food writer people it's like actually like incredible poor form it's like well how how dare she say that because no no no I just think it has nothing to do with me it has everything to do with just being a person on the internet to have an opinion and if you're like here's what I think people will be like well here's why you're wrong or here's why that's insensitive or here's why you're not considering X Y and Z it's like okay you know it's like a battle it's like you have to like mentally prepare your yourself for like the most intense battle of your life when i did subway takes i i thought what my subway take was like pretty unimpeachable i was like i need to have a subway take so ironclad that like nobody can like come at me for it like nobody can can find a way to turn it into something negative and my take was we know too many people yeah yeah and and what i of course what i meant by that is like there's there's too many open channels I mean you guys this this is a the show is a great example we know too many we like we we know so much information about so many people's lives

that like it floods our brain and like would we be better off if we what was the bad what was the bad response like what were the oh I mean most it was honestly like overwhelmingly positive it was honestly best case scenario most people agreed and was like yeah it's actually great take. But of course, some people are like, that's just the, what is it? There's like a Ferber, not Ferber, that's the cry, baby crying. There's like a sort of like. Like a fervor? No, it's like a, it's like a theory, like a person's theory that's like we're only meant to know 100 people. And it's a very old. And someone's like, well, that's just that there, but repack it, blah, blah, blah. And like, but of course you're talking about social media,

but not about like real community. We get to know your neighbors. Go talk to. your neighbors. It was like this whole thing. That's horrible. I've got my neighbors. Trust me. It was terrible. Don't take it. I like my neighbors. For the most for a lot of a lot of a lot of them. I mean, some of them are cool, but a lot of them are like no. And I don't want you knowing anything about me. And I don't want notes in my mailbox about where my trash is. You know, like, it's too close. Where is your church? Oh, yeah. We don't want that. That's how I find out that sometimes the trash isn't being picked up that next day. Because my neighbors. I definitely like, In terms of knowing too much about too many people, I definitely have to say, like, it makes me sad that, like, I feel like I know more about someone who's on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 5 through 7 than I do anything I learned in college.

Like, there's so much, so much. That's what I'm saying? Our brains are pushed up my brain. Yeah, I used to know the best stuff for cocktail parties. And now I do find that I go to a cocktail party and I'm kind of, like, nodding along and, like, waiting for someone to mention something about Bravo or Love Island. aging yeah we're aging yeah aging yeah there's that true and it doesn't matter how you are we're all aging you know what I mean yeah and I'll meet anybody at this point as long as I can just sit down like I'm fine with how many other people there are I mean the whole thing about don't know too many people I

actually kind of like the oversaturation because I'm finding that the more people you know the more you realize that everybody's kind of the same like there's maybe 20 different kinds of people you know and then you know we have like little things that switch us up but I think it's almost easier to understand people once you realize we're all kind of similar, no? Or do you not think we are? No, I think we are. But I think that that's when you get into a trap of like clocking someone immediately and being like, well, you're this type of person. And you're the, you know what I mean?

And like it feels like, but the older you get, the more you allow yourself to be surprised, I think, by like, oh, you know, I had a really nice time. Or like, oh, you know who's really cool? So and so. when you don't suspect that you're going to allow yourself to have your heart be open to any more connections and that need to. I still think, though, that, like, as we get older, we also kind of naturally pair down the groups of people that were in. Like, when I was younger, I was like...

Well, I just wanted it. I was like, I was like, I was so exciting to have friends in all these different groups. I was like, oh, my God, I know these people, and I know these people, and I know these people. and I was like so excited to be welcomed in by all these groups. And then as you get old, you just sort of realize, like, the people that you just want to hang out with are the people you want to hang out with. And like your historical gets, it just shrinks. And like that's actually to me has been my favorite part of like actually being in my 40s

is learning that, you know, like it's nice to have all these people in your life. But the ones that really matter are the ones that you're going to be like calling up on like a Friday night. And that's all you really need. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we really got, we really got in. well speaking of friends i do actually want to like talk about tv related things because you you actually

have not watched too much bravo you're a love is blind girlie right i am yeah which is not right but that's no it's it's still like of the of the of the same the tv and so what i i really wanted to ask you questions about um when you do have those friends over like do you have any recommendations on like putting out a spread for TV watching. How many people are you with? Well, let's start with like a just group of like three to four people. Let's say it's just like a standard episode and you're just coming over on like a Tuesday night and you want to, you just have some friends over, but you want to put like a little bit

of food for them. Like what kind of vibe do you think you're going for? Well, my question to you is, are you, is this dinner? Hmm. And that has to be the question you ask yourself like, is this? like an 8.30 p.m. start, meaning you've already eaten and that's not my problem. And I'll just have some, like, maybe some, like, cute popcorn and like a cocktail and like whatever. Or is this like a six o'clock? I think it's, I think it's 8.30. I think eight 30. No dinner. Start time.

No dinner. Yeah. Yeah. But you need to tell them. First of all, tell them. Yeah. You know, too late for my food. Break free. Just be like, um, don't come hungry. Like, feed yourself. Don't come hungry. You know, say it in a nicer. way than that. But if I was invited over to watch TV at 830, I would be like, are we eating together or not? Because- What time do you normally eat dinner, by the way? Anywhere from 6.30 to 8.30? But 8.30 could be like if people get off work late, et cetera, et cetera. It's like, yeah, come over at 8.30. We'll order pizza or takeout or I made a rose chicken or whatever. Or come over at 830 for TV and sometimes.

snacks. Yeah. The sort of snacks you think are, is that like a crudite moment, like a vegetable moment? It's like a- Because nobody wants crudette after dinner. Yeah. You want like a little popcorn and like a Tony's Chocololone bar. Oh, yeah.

You know what I mean? I love that font. I love the font on that bar. And like several types of beverages. So alcohol, non-alcohol. We need like lots of fizzy water and perhaps some wine. Yeah. Yeah.

not like we don't need any hard cocktails it's a Tuesday for Christ's sake it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial but if it's like a season finale now if we're going into like season finale territory and here's what I imagine um it's let's say it's like a seven o'clock viewing because maybe we were watched it the night before or we're on the west coast where it's already airing live on the east coast and we cannot risk spoilers people are coming over at seven and let's say the mandate is more like there's gonna be some snacky stuff

and maybe we have dinner afterwards but like there could also be like a world where you like fill up on the snacky stuff and you don't really need to have dinner afterwards you know what I'm saying? Is that like our dip moment there? Yeah there's dip

then there's vegetables and cruditay there's like one to two types of chips there's like cheese yeah i don't need like a pump meat at that hour but like cheese is right especially if there's still going to be like a dinner option we don't yeah some like olives and peppers and anchovies and like little potato chips would be really nice oh you love your anchovies you know that was good making appearance yeah yeah you love them yeah you also got me really into dill and leaks oh yes and leaks okay yeah i make a potato leak soup that's right you do i make all the time

I'm so glad. Yeah. And Booian. I'm trying to work with them. I'm like, do you guys want to figure something out? How are you not yet? That's crazy. Some brands either don't care, don't have the money, but mostly don't care.

They're going to be doing just fine without me. Like they don't, they're not like, oh, wow, Alison Roman wrote about us. Yeah, but like you're here pretty huge and you're a huge champion of that stuff. I use it all the time now. It takes like one person on their team to be like, we should pay attention to this. and do something yeah that's wild i mean you you literally wrote it in your book about it in your book and this is like a for no money that was it's a free advertisement because i truly am passionate about the product yeah i am i am a recent better than bullion convert from last year when um my

my parents were in town for Passover and we were gonna make we have we need to make chicken stock and like something had gone wrong like too many carrots in the chicken stocks so it was like very sweet so we had to get some better yeah i know I know. I know it was terrible. And so we had to get some better than bullion. And I was like, this stuff is so good. And I've been using it ever since. Yeah. It's like, to me, there's no replacement for like chicken broths, chicken stock for like matzwell soup and chicken soup. But for other soups where like there's tons of other stuff going on, don't waste your nice chicken broth for that. Yeah. Yeah. I have to say your salad from nothing fancy. That's that is in my group, we just call it the. salad, which is your baby gem, baby gems with the lemon and pistachios, like, that's the salad. That's just it. And like, literally been eating it for like five years straight. I just want to know, you've made a huge salad contribution.

Oh, so glad. Household. Yeah. Which is, it's a very big deal. It's a very, very big deal. Alison, are you still on tour? No, thank God. You just finished? Yeah. You can, I mean, my voice is still kind of gone, but I got back last Sunday. And so this past weekend was the first weekend that we were home.

Oh, nice. Congrats. Thank you. I like, where am I? What time is it? Like, how is December halfway over? Yeah. I'm just so, like a nice ending right before a new beginning, new chapter.

Yeah, I was sort of like, okay, I'm in it like really like cruise into December. And like, instead of December being super crazy and manic, I'm like, feel like I'm on vacation a little bit. That's good. You're like chilling, chilling through. Yeah. this has been amazing talking to you i really love talking to you thank you so so much for coming over are we breaking up thanks for visiting yeah we're done no this is just this is this is not good like was i bad i was good i was like i'm tired goodbye no no like you're like this i wasn't

supposed to have any more press to do and then this is one more thing no i wanted to do it i love you guys we totally appreciate you coming on i think it's so awesome that you are killing it with these cookbooks and like your recipes are amazing and everyone should go check out something for nothing from nothing and also your substack and yeah it's not something for nothing to people be like and i left substack but it doesn't matter because you can still just subscribe to the newsletter yeah well i love this actually by the way at your la show which was awesome you talked about like cookbooks now versus when you first started and how like a lot of the recipes are digitally are digital but they're in here and i think actually i love i love having a cookbook with the

recipes in here because i cannot stand having my phone in the kitchen and you're trying to follow a recipe and then the phone goes to sleep and then you've got to wake up your phone and you've got you've got shit on your finger and sniping your phone to wake up it's like no just give me a book yeah you're like where i'm from that recipe like am i searching my inbox my googling is it behind a paywall like what the hell's going on here yeah not appreciate so yeah love this i might actually have one last question which is you had a you dressed up as ina garden for Halloween did queen ina reach out to you at all she did not reach out to me but we share a publicist for our publisher she's really her publicist but she's i guess she's mine too but really she's ina and she's also my neighbor

and so i ran into her on Halloween and i was like oh my god you got to send a picture She's like, I will send her a picture. And apparently she wrote back, ha ha, I love it. Just saying, I think we're pretty close now. I once saw Miguel, her florist, in LAX, and I literally stopped him. And I was like, I love your show. I'm just obsessed that you know who that is. It's like enough to say.

Exactly. Exactly. Incredible. Anyway, thank you so much for being on here. We really appreciate it. Everyone go check out Allison's books, of which there are many. And we hope you get some nice rest and relaxation. I'm going to sleep right now.

9 o'clock over here. Thanks, Alice. Hi, guys. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Well, that was fun.

How lovely. Oh, my gosh. You guys, I think I controlled myself. I think I did not. I think did a really good job. Yeah. You did. You were very nice and chill.

Although, I know you're probably looking up listings in New York to go move for a while. I'm like, she lives next door to Ina Garton. like whoa the amount of greatness in that and that little space right there and Ben is out of here everybody well one thing that we didn't mention which we which we didn't mention is that like um she said that she has a lot of um friends who listen to crappins so shout out to alison roman's friends thanks for thanks for listening to our show because that's that's super cool but anyway all right so everybody thanks this is um you know we do talk bravo news and stuff but i mean come on you you get a chance to talk to Alison Roman, you take it.

You take it. Also, I love, I love everyone in the comments, be like, you did great, Ben. You did great. It was like, everyone was like, it's like, you know when, like, you know, when you see parents with, like, a kid and there's, like, a famous like a quarterback or something, and the parents put their kid forward to meet the quarterback, and the quarterback signs it. Like, I feel like you guys are all my

parents, but like, Ben, go ahead. You're doing great, callie. All right, let's get on to some Bravo news for the day, shall we? One of the big things that happened in the past couple of weeks is that below Dexter Fraser Oliander says he was rushed to the hospital after suffering a heart attack because of vape poisoning at BravoCon. So glad he's doing okay. I mean, I got to hand it to the guy.

He almost died, but he's posting thirst traps all over that hospital. I haven't seen one picture of him that's not like, or like, shirtless showing off his six-pack. I've never seen so many hospital thirst trap photos especially after a heart attack. It's very impressive. Yeah, it really is. He's looking hot with the heart attack. No one with a heart attack has ever looked

this hot. Actually, I would say, I'm going to show you this picture that I've just... Oh, it's going to show about the story. Oh, go ahead. Do you show your... You show it. You show it. Yours is probably farther along than mine is. Are you sure? Mine isn't like one of the shirtless ones, but this is the TMZ on X picture that he posted.

But then click through, click through onto TN. And there's, like, another thirst trap that he has. Oh, I clicked a picture. Okay. Let's go look at it. TMZ. And then scroll down. My vape gave me a heart attack.

You know, but also it was BravoCon. And I know a lot of those guys were, you know, doing more than just vaping. So let me just say, I don't want to villainize the vape even more than it needs to as I've got one sitting right here. It's my life support animal. Okay. So I'm kind of mad at this vape slander. But, you know, if he almost.

almost died then whatever you you look great though I mean just hot I do not believe it was just a vape but you look this happened well actually look at this he's ridiculous I've never I've literally never seen such like hot heart attack photos it's his heart attack only fans to people who are like really into like I don't know hospital porn or whatever why is this doing this I mean look I think I'm you you do you do everyone does what they want in their lives. Everything that I've heard about like Babes has not been great personally.

Like it sounds like there's a lot of stuff that comes into your body. But like this is, this is wild. This happened. It says he, this happened in he had, he suffered spasms, which reduced blood flow to his heart and he suffered a heart attack. This is what is reported in TMZ. And he was in London and medical specialists in London. and told him the vape was the culprit after spending a week in the hospital severe chest

pains and difficulty breathing is this something that's like known about vaping is this like a thing that happens with vaping is this something i just smoked for so long i smoked for so many years and that was i mean there's just such a noticeable difference for me i'm not like hacking up all the time i you don't think i mean it's just a huge difference to me but that is someone who's smoked for years and years so to me it's it's better but i mean i don't know what it does to a nice pair of clean lungs who knows i mean who knows um but you know he's okay now so that's all that's important and he's hot so i guess that's what really counts guys someone in the comment says ronnie life is horror and pain at this point if the vape takes us it's how our ancestors would want

us to go so amen you know there've been worse things to be taken by so um next up let's see what do you want to talk about i already said one wait i i you know i i hate to do this but i feel like has to be addressed because we've gotten so many messages about this we just have to face it head on because it's the worst thing this weekend was like the worst weekend and every time i turned on the news something else terrible happen we just have to address it which is the horrific sorry and i'm sitting here with a smile on my face because i'm like trying to be like we're fun we're a fun crappy hour but like the rob riner situation is so tragic and then of course everyone message us being like the first thing i thought about was the valley and i felt terrible because the first thing i thought of was

Michelle Lally and I was like I am a terrible terrible person but like wow yes it is like we acknowledge that there we like of course like our one random celebrity ongoing joke but obviously we're not like we're not the victims here but that is so sad and so terrible yeah those who don't listen to the valley we joke that the director that Michelle was supposedly sleeping with at the chateau marmont was Rob Reiner like that was just our joke so you know we made this joke now for two years years and then it comes out that he passed away and what a horrible way to go i mean they were killed by their son their son i guess just had a lot of problems with drugs and stuff like that and i guess the whole thing's terrible and killed him fucking terrible we don't want the president comes out

on a huge rant against him calling being horrible you know since this world i can't it's just it's awful we don't want to dwell on that because that's like real life news yeah thanks ben i know but i feel like people are going to be like people think like messaging like you're going to say something you're say something so we are acknowledging and um like yes we are aware of the michelle lolliness of it all which is not a real thing just it really does show how selfish i am though because i read the story and i was like oh my god that is so sad for us i mean what the hell like the darkest show on tv now we can't even joke about that you know but it does i feel like in a way we hurt him because it was the you know we joked about that on the dark

his show on TV which can't be good luck but you know god bless them you know god bless yeah there are many tragedies this weekend but you know just highlighting that out because the random ass connections to this podcast so now let's go hello while we're on one why why not just keep it depressing we'll go to the eighth and post after what happened at bondi um yeah if al so we'll know that what we returned we're like okay bye alice it was great talking to you about snacks okay fraser had a attack and vaping. Guys don't vape. Rob Bryner died and there was a horror. There was a terror attack in Bondi. The world is a dark place right now. What do you want from us? So Nathan from Below Deck Med, for those of you who don't watch it, he's like sweet seeming kind of not

great bosom on there. And, you know, there was a huge attack at Bondi Beach. And he posted something pretty gross on Instagram. He posted, brought people off the beach and headed to the sea, terrifying and disgusting behavior anyone who thinks it's okay to let these people into any other country than their own can go fuck themselves unfortunately these acts paint a picture for all of them and that picture has been painted out of every country out of europe and out of australia so he's taking a lot of rightly so bro isn't the word gross enough without you being a hateful fucking bigot on top of it my god yeah that is that's like does not help the conversation whatsoever he is now i was just saying not to mention a muslin person is the one who stopped the shooter you dick yeah not to mention that like australia does not belong to white people anyway like not you're an immigrant places yeah exactly it's so stupid and and like shame on him really shame on him for for saying that during a like a horrific tragedy and like just you know people need to get a grip okay yeah people need to get a grip yeah um someone said on here uh b watson said now it's not

the time for me to quit smoking and you know what that's that's we're driving this car in this crazy world and agree you know just roll your window down why don't we pivot into two two items quick items that pertain to blow deck med but are not depressing we all like yeah so first is the current charter guy the guy who is chartering uh that's the the boat um guess what he has fraud charges oh no he yeah guess what he has some sort of like um get quick thing and I hate to I hate to be the bear bad news it's a fraud so that's that's his issue but actually more intriguing to me is this guy Billy I feel like we did we ever talk about this guy Billy on below deck med there was there was like these gays that were on for like twice

and there's this one guy named Billy and I'm gonna bring up his picture because once you see his pictures you know you'll you'll recognize him and he was just the worst he was very prissy and he was very bossy and he was just a pain in the ass the entire time the entire time he was just like just you and he was always like i'm so sorry but like we're like oh my god there where's like where's my cocktail he always claimed do you remember do you recognize this guy i do i do but not guess what i mean both you know below deck i just erase out of my mind with every new season so not really well guess what this guy arrested for double murder can you believe it double she's lots of double murders in today's crappy hour what i know but wait i'm sorry

i was like this will be funnier i don't know why it's like funnier when it's like some abstract like the guy move on to something like a double murder just i just realized as i said it it's like not funnier but i'm just like what the billy from below deck bed where did this come from but i think it was a hit and run he did a hit and run and so this guy piece of shit and now officially piece of shit. So those are my little items from the world of below deck. Yes. Yikes. I guess I didn't really turn the thing. I didn't turn the beat around, did I? Turn the beat around. Um, so let's see here. U.S. New Vanderpump Rules cast addresses backlash and negativity surrounding reboot. You know, there has been a lot of negativity. I'd just like to tell the new cast, just chill and don't address it.

don't talk about it don't get involved in it because it's natural for a bravo show to get negativity we're bravo we're a bravo loving audience we're negative people the first thing we're going to do is complain about you say how much we hate you say how much the other one was better you need to give people six months and then they'll you know six months to a year and you'll be fine but just ignore it for now guys just ignore it well actually the first of all i'm laughing because Dolphins Girl 253 just joined us. Hi, and she says, just made it. What did I miss?

I'm like, girl, you don't even want to know. Literally this kind of things in the world. But also a guest spot from Allison Roman. But I will say, Ronnie, that the article was actually, the vibe was more like people are being negative to us, but there's actually so much more love that it's outshining the negativity, which is nice that's what audrey says she says honestly the amount of negativity has just been overshadowed by all the love that's been so surprisingly overwhelming to feel that and i have to say when i've talked to anyone about the new vanderpump rules cast everyone's been positive about it every single

person that i've talked to has been like i actually kind of like it and i in fact i tweeted out last week and i actually kind of like it and like everyone responded back saying yeah i like it too there wasn't a lot there was no one that was like oh this this is so boring how could you even say that what's wrong with you so i'm wondering if like i think that like that those seem like good early indicators right yeah i think it's happy i guess yeah i guess you could just look for you can look for positive or negative anywhere you know if you just google your opinion you'll usually find people to agree with you know um so i don't know i hope it's positive the ratings suck and andy went on a whole thing about how ratings don't matter and all of this i mean obviously they do

But I guess they're different. You know, they're different now, obviously, how they count them. But we can, like, tout something for getting a million viewers a week and be like, that's amazing. And then when something gets 200 a week, we're like, no, it doesn't matter. It's basically, like, getting a million. So I hope that people kind of come around to it because I like it. Yeah, I like it too. And I think it's doing well on Beacock.

So it's just like, you know, when you live in L.A. for a long time and you just see yourself. and your friends on there, meaning just young, poor, hungry for something that isn't really defined and willing to do so many, like, probably wrong things. Like veering, teetering on the edge of human trafficking, as these people often are. And they're closer to the edge and they know working at one of those restaurants. Because, you know, I still think pump was a trafficking ring. I always said that since the beginning. I always thought it was.

We would go eat there. There would be all these hot people. They would be gone by the next time. you were there and replaced by a new crop of hot people. It's like, where are they all going? Are they being shipped off in, you know. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

So you're seeing them and they could go in the Jack's way or they could go in a, you know, very innocent way. I couldn't think of an example from that show for innocence. Yeah. You know, that's what I mean. There's a lot of talk. There's a lot of talk in the comments about Paolo. and him being in the hospital.

I think he's out at the hospital. I think that happened a few months ago. So I think from what I heard that he, maybe you told me this, that he went back to work at the restaurant. I think he's like back at the restaurant. Oh, really? But he was not there.

So a week ago, I went to the Vanderpump Rules publicity thing that they had with invited content creators and everything. And I went and Paolo was not there. Everyone was asking for Paolo. He was not there. Hilary Baldwin was there, which was hilarious. Hilarious.

Ken was there. Honestly, a great honor of mine was that there was Bravo TV posted a photo of Ken Todd from Sir over the weekend and I was in the background of the photo and I was like, I made it. I really made it. Photo bombing Ken Todd. It was a great honor. Thank you, everyone. But yeah, I think it's, I think the show's going to be good. So looking forward to it.

What do you want to talk about next? Well, just because we are taught, you know, we've mentioned some old stars, you know, there is. positive things to do with, like, older celebrities in this country. And one of them is Melissa Gilbert from Little House on the Prairie. You guys might know her as Kyle's friend on Little House on the Prairie. She played a friend of on Little House on the Prairie to Kyle Richards. And she posted on Instagram, she said, So the hubby and I had an interesting encounter with a couple of Bravo Leopardy's hashtag the other day.

Let me start by saying I'm a fan of Real Housewives. It started, of course, because of my sweet friend, Kyle Richards. I love Real Housewives of Bravo. Now I've become addicted to at Roney Bravo, at Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and at Real Housewives of Orange County. Okay, Melissa Gilbert, you need to learn to add better. Because who are you even talking to?

Who are you talking to? These shows are my guilty pleasure. I find them to be so fun and entertaining. By the way, this is a Bronwyn-length Instagram post. And she said she met Brittany Bateman. um from salt lake city the other day we were walking past the plot at the plaza hotel and i said to at tim busfield we just walked by at brittany batman and jared osmond and then our husband isn't that funny did you know she was married to timothy bus busfield i don't think so i don't

think i i didn't like connect her to amadeus but sure go on wait no he's not amadeus that's that's tom something tom you're right yeah either way amadeus who played amadeus no busfield always played tom holst you're right tom holst that's right timothy busfield was from 30 something sorry yeah there's like tom holds timothy busfield spectrum is very it's like very small is it i think that they're basically two sides of the same coin you know timothy busfield is that ginger guy he was on uh the Red House, I guess I should say. What was he on? Why? Husbands something. Oh, 30 something. Yeah. So anyway, so they saw him and he took charge and he was like, oh, this is my wife, Melissa Gilbert from Little House on the Prairie. And she was like, big fan. And then Brittany was like, uh, he says Britney seemed a bit harried. Like she wasn't really in her body as she thanked me for being a fan. And rightly so. Jared had lost his phone and a random woman currently standing in front of the plaza had found. it what's the story what i want to say to melissa gilbert don't feel upset that brittany did not recognize who you are because i don't think brittany recognizes who anyone is which is actually

offensive because i think that melissa gilbert is she really is like a fashion icon or you know real house was a salt lake city i mean anytime they go and put on a bonnet that you can just trace that right to a little house on the bird well exactly especially yeah the old school Mormon for sure like the flower dresses and the bonnets and stuff like that so then she's like and then brittany just ghosted me she made an irish goodbye and didn't even say goodbye to me and i am from little house on the prairie how dare you know that's it that's that is that is what you call smacking the hand that feeds you or biting the hand well you could it's a smack as well um speaking of salt lake city a lot of of people want us to chime in about Bronwyn and Todd. I don't know if there's any more updates since

then, right? Nothing else has come out except that they are just, they're separated, right? I haven't heard any more details of you. Yeah, we had talked on the show. I just heard that they might be getting separated and then it was announced a couple days later. So, yeah, I mean, that's just the news. They're getting separated. I don't know anything else other than that, do you? Well, I'm just going around telling everyone who hears that Todd is someone who grabs the back of a seat to get up and out of his seat in order to go to the bathroom because that's what my brother experienced when my brother sat in front of him last week on a plane and Todd kept on grabbing his chair to get out and gramming it and like I was like Todd you're are you going to watch

crazy rich Asians or something or you're just going to create your own chaos on an airplane yeah that's all I know about it yeah I guess we saw that coming I don't know me good for her I did see that she posted a couple of Instagrams about it but honestly I just cannot with Ronwin's Instagram. She does those photo text things where she writes all over the photo, but she writes 10 paragraphs per picture. And I cannot read it without like going in and making it bigger and then moving it around the phone to just read what she's saying. And it's just word salad every time I read it. You know, it's like, well, you know, people have been asking me about my divorce, my time. I just wanted to say that, you know, it's been lovely and there's

been so many years. I love sidewalks because if you have sidewalks, you don't have to walk on the grass. And isn't that nice? Isn't that nice? You save the grass. So that's really good. Like, you know, I'm not really sure what to say about Todd, except I love love. And love is love, and flowers represent love, which is why I love flowers. All the flowers are great. It's like, shut the fuck up. Can we go back to the old Twitter days where you have to say something in 20 words?

Just do that. Please. I like, though, that when she writes those big walls of text after every 15 seconds, it shakes, because that's like her head nodding. It's like, oh, uh-huh. I'm writing a text right now. So many people commented. like so many people were making jokes and memes about the fact that like like she went to her lawyers as soon as he took that cherry off off of her Sunday like everyone went right to that scene of him taking taking the cherry off of her banana split that she was so excited for yeah I don't know I mean I guess we'll be following that it's hard to care about a divorce with Todd involved you know what I mean but did one day on the show I know no kidding did she say on the show that they had a pre-nup or they did not have a pre-mup I think she should

She said they did have one. I think she said they did have one, but I don't know. I'm sure. I don't remember either. One thing that actually caught my attention in these headlines is this article about Jazzy, Jazzy Rodeau, who apparently cropped Stacey out of a group photo from her wedding. And when asked about it, she was like, did I crop her out? I think, you know, that repost, it's just a situation where I, didn't want anyone fake in my photo so i just did what any normal person would do so it seems as

though uh jazzy and stacey it seems like things are not going well we were we were watching last night's episode and talking about today in the recap and it seemed like jazzy was standing up for stacey and it seemed like they were trying to really work on jazzy to turn her to be like stacey you know stacey wasn't going to go to your wedding unless we all went to your wedding which is funny because it's like were you guys going to go to the wedding unless the rest of you guys were going to go the wedding so whatever it is jazzy is now mad at stacey and i was like sad because i it seems like follower stuff it seems like more follower stuff like i'm going to do what the popular kids are telling me to do and just yes stacey so i don't maybe something will happen between jazzy and

stacey that we haven't seen but i'm assuming that it's going to be what we saw on the show today that ashley said the only reason she even went to your wedding is because she knew it was going to be filmed and so maybe they'll fight about that but i don't know it's kind of tired just the hate against Stacey for no reason the more fun stuff is watching Angel lose it all over she's just not having a great time with that cast and she said let's be clear i am from maryland i know where the bones are buried and i kept it classy done let's be very clear she says let's be clear a lot in her post that's how you know it's a post she goes let me be clear so she says let me be clear no this time very clear if i could have seen the

cash shit talked about me behind my back week after week I would have moved different my objective was to be cool with everybody but the three witches wouldn't let it let up and now I'm done and she's referring to Wendy Ashley and Giselle which really don't see anything she's saying wrong so far I've read a million and one lives about myself stories people have made up to feed a need for whatever reason to believe I'm some person I've stayed largely silent but last night's episode takes the cake Giselle is lying she has no word on the street because no one knew her on the street before joining this show so you're saying she's only been famous 12 years is that really or how many years is this show 10 and like 10 it's been it's been on the air for about 10 years yeah

no one knew you before a decade ago isn't really a good dis when you haven't been famous longer than a decade I don't think either hey no one knew you before a decade ago that's like significant like no one knew certain megastars before three years ago I'd be like you've only been famous for 10 years in a fickle in a fickle pop culture that discards stars after six months and you've only lasted 10 years well how long have you been a wag ma'am yeah has it been longer than that because i don't know but it's a weird dis and um you know she says jazelle's lying she had no word on the street uh no no one knew her on the street before joining the show wendy's mutual friend oh yeah that conversation never happened i spoke with her lies ashley just needs to join in on a storyline

So here's the problem with her is she's actually right to be upset with, and she's pretty much right to be upset, I think, with all the ladies. And she's right in what she's saying. It's just she's so bad at it that you still can't be at her. You know. There's another article on Decider. You've only been a celebrity for 10 years since you've been a television star. Loser.

There's an article about all this stuff on Decider and the headline, which is not worth going into, but it's just more funny stuff. Kiana Potomac star Kieran Stewart teases audiences will see a different side of Angel Massey later this season that was yes from yesterday this article I just love the perpetual you know teasing of what's to come with Angel like don't worry you're gonna get to know her you're gonna get to know me that's coming up soon and I'm gonna get to know you it's like stop teasing this like you'll see another side of Angel scene I'm like I think we've seen the sides we've seen it we're good we're good we see it it. All right, everybody. This ends the audio version of this. We will be moving over to talk to you guys on Vigya over on our YouTube. And so those of you who want to talk to us, stay here. The rest of you, we will talk to you in the new year. This was our final crappy hour for 2025. So thanks for another great year. You guys, we love you, and we'll talk to you next time. Bye.

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