Watch What Crappens - 3143 Married To Medicine S12e05 Octopurse Y

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

Toya tries to get some drama going with Heavenly on Married To Medicine, and this time it’s at a “make your own purse” party. Heavenly is going to be president soon, so she doesn’t give Toya too much energy, but hey. We got a lot of really hideous purses out of it! To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Everybody, welcome to the show. We are here for Married to Medicine. Today's season 12, episode 5, baggage claim. You can also find this on video over at Patreon or a week later for free on YouTube.

Also, we are with the new network now. We're with ACAS. So hi, Acast, and thanks for everything, Wondry. You were great. We loved being with you, but now we're with Acast. So goodbye. Good luck. And just for all of you who are wondering where ad-free went, we will still be having an ad-free option.

It will be moving over to Patreon, but it's going to take a while to get 3,000 episodes over. So give us a minute. But, yeah, ad-free will still be available over on Patreon at the, you know, the lowest tier. So that'll be there. That's also where you get bonus episodes and it's also where you get these videos every day. So that's what's going on with us. How you doing today, Ben? Doing just great.

Happy to be back. Happy to be on the microphone and talking some merit to medicine. How about you? Meritin to Medicine. Me too. Love this show. I don't want a life without Heavenly. You know, when this season was starting back up and they said Heavenly was only going to be a friend of,

I was not happy. I'm still not happy, to be honest. But, gosh, she makes me so happy when she's on my screen, just dragging Toya. He was quite deserving of dragging, by the way. A lot of times it's Heavenly's fault. This time, no, it's Toya's fault. And I love every Heavenly second I get. I want to move so I can vote for Heavenly.

Yeah, Heavenly is hilarious. And where we left off, you know, Toya and Eugene had just had this party where Toya had a meltdown. And she sort of went at Eugene. and all sorts of insults I said all sorts of insulting things like be a leader, leave the man because she just wanted them to play a party a party game where she was going to humiliate Eugene

of like who has like who can get into the best shape for going to the Caribbean. So now it's the aftermath of that. She wanted to have a game where she could humiliate Eugene with like a sports thing and hula hoops. And then he didn't want to play it. So she humiliated him.

him by screaming at him in front of all their friends and cursing him out. So it's typical, it's, it's typical Toya to do this. She's done it season after season as we see in a clip later today and she's an asshole and I love that she never gets it because that's something else that's really good about Toya. Toya never learns. Toya never changes. Toya gets worse, I think with every year. She doesn't get better, but it gets more fun to watch. Yeah. Yeah, she's my favorite thing is the opening credits, more any interstitials where you just see Toya standing with the group, like, hunched over, like, who's like, dent in my car door? That's the look in her face.

She's like, who withdrawing with crayons on the dining group table? Avery, did you leave this milk out here? Like, she's just ready to scold us. She's trying to be sexy and like, and be like, ooh, me. And there's like one shot where like, when they're like going to a Toya scene, they have like a close up on her face, like, Toya. and she just is like trying to serve a look and it's just not working and it actually really reminds me of

season two of Top Chef or season three of Top Chef this was like the origin of our Gayle and Padma joke because in the promos for that season of Top Chef they would show Gail Simmons and they had like a, it was like a wind machine in her hair and she was like trying to like

look at the camera like I'm Gail Simmons Top Chef is coming back but then Padma will come on and be like Hi I'm Padman Lakshmi I'm a stupid model looking for you Gail. She's trying to serve C-U-N. You know what the rest of that is. And she just can't do it. Too bad. And that's like what choice. Toya is serving Gell Simmons. Yeah. And it's hilarious. It's menacing, I will say. It's a bizarre choice that they went with on this opening. So, Eugene has set up pool down in the basement. He's also like waiting at this sad little table. And he calls her down. And she's like, why you sitting at this table?

Just sit at the sad table, like family meeting. He looks like he's at the part where he's already test driven, the Honda, and now he's ready to sign some paperwork. And so they've put him at a table and they're going to make him wait a little bit before someone comes and helps him. Like he's ready to decide what he's going to add on to his model is like his CRV. I actually just went through that experience, getting my niece a car. My niece needed a car.

So we were getting her a car. And man, they are so nice to you when you're on that lot. And the second they sit you down at that table, they just start, they bend you over and they just start pounding you. Every single. Oh, by the way, the interest rates are 10%. Get the fuck out of here. I just spent six hours here, sir. You waited until six hours later to tell me this.

And they have that tech. I sort of got it. I think it's purely just some sort of negotiating lever that they pull. I don't think they ever have to do this. They'll be like, oh, so wait, you said you want. air conditioning in your car. Hold on one second and they leave with a little circular table for 25 minutes and then they come back like, uh, yeah, looks like we can add air conditioning to your car. I'm like, we, I know you can have air conditioning. You just let me sit here at the

table for a long time. It's like some sort of tactic. So like you sit at that table for hours and hours and hours. Yeah, we were, we wanted the car for like 4,000 less. And what, you know, whatever. We did the, the numbers and all that. We're like, we can get this car for 4,000 less somewhere else. And so they were like, okay, okay, we can do that. Are you sure you can do it? Yeah, we can do it. So we sit down at the table and of course the little guy comes up. It's the same price. And I said, this is not the price. And he said, oh, well, you see, normally what we do is when we sell you a Toyota of Round Rock, by the way, is who I'm talking about, you dumb asses. When we actually sell you the car, we charge you $4,000 above this for all this stuff, like a coding on your car,

and a tinting on your car this other $4,000 package, which we didn't order anyway. But they said, we charge you this on top of the car, but we won't put that stuff on. So we'll leave that off. I was like, okay, so you're going to give us a bunch of stuff that we didn't ask for, but you're still not going to give it to us, but you're not going to charge us for the stuff we didn't ask for and keep the car the same price. Goodbye. Goodbye. And they're like, well, is there anything we can do?

And I was like, yeah, you could tell me what you told me six hours ago instead of making me sit here like an idiot. I would rather drive across town than ever do this. this with you again. And they're still texting me like, oh, you're coming back. No, I'm not coming back, you jackasses. You're tinting. Get the fuck out of here. That's crazy. So yeah, the point is Eugene is having a family meeting with Toya in the pool room. So they're going to play pool. And he's like, I was making margaritas to make up for yesterday. You might notice I have two margarita machines. Sure, we just need one, but who cares? We'll make you some margaritas. Without actually any like margarita glasses. Well, actually, he's got tumblers. That's okay.

But I so she, that you're ready to, you're ready to bring them down for their glass choice. Well, because they have a whole little scene with their glasses. They seem like they don't, they don't know what to do, right?

Like they sort of, like they've never made margaritas before, it seems like, even though they just did the last episode outside, but they look, they have like a debate over what sort of glass

it should go into and it's actually hilarious because, you know, Toya's like, what about a tum, what about a mason jar? He's like, well, what about a cock,

let's do a cocktail glass. She's like, and a cocktail glass. Like, she's never had a margarita in a cocktail glass. She's like, Toyo's horrified. She thinks it's the craziest thing she's ever heard. So anyway, you know what they need on this channel is they need a hookup with decent pinoccalada machines or margarita machine, frozen drink machines because they just suck on this show,

on this channel. We just saw it on Southern Charm. They couldn't make them on this. This one, it was all watery as well. I mean, come on. Somebody's got to step into this market and make it work. It was like slime. Yeah. So Eugene's telling us that he doesn't like having conflict. He likes to resolve things quickly and she's like well i actually handle things i handle things head on and if i see what if i see that they're going in a certain way he's like yeah like a collision she's like yes exactly absolutely he's like okay well i'm starting you know i started to think what did i do wrong just no though because usually then like it like if something else happens like he'll put it right out top of that and then he blows up and he's like i think you're projecting because eugene did not blow up

ever we've never seen eugene blow up toria you blew up So he's like, okay, let's get the heavy lifting out of the way where I apologize for doing nothing wrong. And then you nod and accept it. He's like, so one, I've been doing a lot of thinking and I want to say, I'm sorry. I misjudged what the party meant for you. But I do feel like you need to take a little ownership with what you said in front of people who we don't even feel safe around. Because there were a lot of emasculating jokes. Okay, the emasculating joke was about your penis.

size and that comes from Toya complaining about your penis size to all the ladies. So why are you blaming heavenly? Toya did that. Yeah. And Toya was like, well, at that party, it was like, you looked at me like I was one of them. And I'm like, when did I become just one of them because I said to be a leader, believe the man, be, be that person, be, be a wonderful leader in history. I should be able to use words like leader. He's like, um, yeah, you didn't really say it like that. The way you said it was hurtful.

He's like, yeah. He's like, okay, here's what I own. I played too much. I should have left you alone because I do know that you need to have some space. I shouldn't have, I shouldn't have, I shouldn't have cursed. I shouldn't have let your friends get in my head because I don't like it when they talk about me. I shouldn't have been upset when your friends had had a small dick.

And then I shouldn't have been upset when you wanted to further amasculate me by making me do a who hoop thing and then take off my shirt. I shouldn't have been upset by those things. So now what did you do? She's like, uh, thank you for your apology. I'm sorry for throwing a really good party that you ruined.

Yeah. I don't really know what else from there. Yeah, I like this. She just goes, thank you for your apology. She goes, okay,

well, what did I, okay, I was being pushy. And, uh, what I did second, uh,

I shouldn't respond when people pull me into a negative scenario. No, you are the negative scenario. What are you talking about? No one did this to you. You did this. And she's basically blaming him.

She was like, I forgive, I forgive myself for letting myself be negative because you made me. Yeah. So she was like, I definitely could be better at feeding you more words with affirmation because I do it for the boys and I take up a grant that sometimes, you know, like,

She like sort of had, I think she went to chat GPT and was like, what should I say to Eugene right now? It's like, one thing you could do, that's a great question. One thing you could do is you could say thank you for supporting me. I really do appreciate you. And I sometimes forget to appreciate you. Okay, great. That's what I'll do. She's like, even though you all got a lot.

He's like, okay, you can leave that part out. Well, I use chat UGT. So, sorry. And he's like, but man, you know, it's nice that I could depend on you. And he goes, okay. And you appreciate pool? and she's like, yeah, but I would like it if we could play spades more. And he's like, no, because, you know, every time I play spades, it turns into a fight.

And she's like, honey, that's what all black people do. And then they laugh. So now we go to Brandy's house and she is giving. If it helps, I've never played a game of spades that hasn't turned into a fight either. Maybe it's the game. I don't know. It's an evil game. Hearts also sucks.

So that's also a fight. This is just, Larch just doesn't really go anywhere interesting, you know. So Brandy's house. Brandy is more of our new cast members. I really like Brandy a lot. I think she's giving a good Greek course energy. So she's giving pizza to her kids and everything.

And Angel and Mimi come over. It's sort of like a newbie scene. So Brandy, you know, the kids are all there. And brandy's like, you know, you could have brought Stevie and Mimi's like, yeah, I'm not going to do that to you. okay like my baby he's kind of he's like broken TVs at people's houses and they're like oh yeah and so maybe he's just saying like there's lots of twists and turns when parenting a child with special needs and see if you were here i would have to have one eye over there and one eye on him and she's basically like yeah

this is we're going to leave them at home in this case yeah and they're talking about how long they've been married both about 10 years and brandy says it's been 10 years for her and she's like and you know we miss out on all the gossip like i need to do you know we miss out on all the gossip like i need to know what's going on on the streets. So you guys need to tell me. And they start laughing. And she's like, I mean, I could be at least be entertained, you know, because I have single friends.

And I'm like, what, that's a thing? Which is true. I'm single. And I'm like, what the fuck? You did what with your where? Huh? Yeah. On what app?

What does this app do again? This app locates you in whatever bath you. Like, what? What? Angels. They're basically like all eyes on. the resident single girl of this group right now. And they're like, so, Angel, what's it like out there?

What's happening? Do you want to date someone? Do you want to date? What do you tell us all about them? Show us pictures. Do you want to swipe? Let's do some swiping. So Angel's like, you know, my life is just,

it's just so wrapped up into working and taking care of kids. But like I do want to date. I would love to. I would love to find an amazing man that could just come in and ignite my softness, which that's kind of a funny turn of phrase. Ignite my softness. Ignat my softness, big boy. I just want someone to come in here all of you.

exciting and full of energy to make me soft. Okay, sure. But angels, angels, um, angels kids are named, okay, she's angel and I forget what they're,

what I forget their names, but it's like angel worship and church or something. It's like, angel worship and Bible. Okay. Heaven. She's a daughter named heaven. So angel and heaven.

It's a little on the nose. It's also a little. Wings. My children, Pearly Gates and Psalms. Are we playing pyramid with our children right now? Okay. Angel heaven. Um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, okay.

We, uh, I have a new, I have a son named Pearly and I also have a dog named Gates. Come on. Um, um, um, um, um, um, is it? I have a stepchild named Satan. He is named Satan. Okay. Uh, uh, uh, is it purgatory. Yes, that is correct.

That is correct. Okay, what the next? This is my niece, you better pray. This is my niece, you better pray. Okay. Like, what's the next round? There's another round. I mean, our names are permanent.

Yeah, yeah, we're doing more than one round of pyramid angel. You do have more children for this game, right? Don't. So she says that being a single mother doesn't come with a manual. I like when people say that. I love that. It's not easy. parent it doesn't come with a manual well neither just being a kid okay nothing comes with the manual

this i don't know read some books there's plenty of manuals for being a parent anyway there are manuals actually now that i think about it there's like love your kid harder or whatever they're called like tough love or um have you read some of the manuals lately that are they're coming in with some products the manuals are not helpful yeah man it's just it comes with an l rent your kid comes with an l wrench and something called a flurbitidig. Yeah, exactly. There's some arrows and then there's some broken English

and you just have to just do the best that you can. Okay, we're all in the non-manual land at this point. Oh, here's our children's name. So Heaven's dad played professional basketball and Savior's dad, we were engaged. I think Savior is just a lot to live up to. I wonder if they're religious. Also, Savior just keeps disappearing.

They're like, oh, my God, when is Savior going to return? Turn. Well, we just want him to work at Complex Magazine, just for the pun of it all. That's really it. So she is the mom and the dad. And so Brandy is all about the cliches. She really is.

She's like, being a mom doesn't come with the manual. I'm basically the mom and the dad. That's the way the cookie grumbles. I'm not going to cry over spilled milk. I wish there was a lot in my household. Two in a hand or better than two in a bush. Am I right, Savior? So Brandy's like, what's the most important thing you're looking for a man?

His weaner, his brain. And she's like, no, none of that. I don't need an anaconda. I don't need that. So they're asking about the last person she dated. And she's like, oh, I mean, it was weird. And they're like, you're in a safe space. You're actually with two medical providers.

That's so condescending because she's angels are registered nurse. They're like, you're with two people who have actual advanced. degrees. We're, you're with doctors, not nurses right now, Angel. You get to be with the, you get to sit at the bed with the big dogs. Yeah, I've been, I've been in, I've been in some conversations with some medical providers lately, and it seems great when you're in the office, and then you get the bill where nothing is covered and everything's $90,000. Okay. No, I don't trust you. Yeah. Well, also what's so funny is that, like, Angel is being elusive about what she wants, and they're like, come on, you're,

come on, you're in a safe place. You can tell us. And Mimi's like, we can read between the lines and Angel's like, yeah, everyone's, this is a safe place. This is a safe place. Tell us. And then this teeters into just gossip about the other women. I was like, wait, we didn't get to find out what Angel wants in a man. So she won't say. They're like, why are you deflecting? Because she doesn't want to put all this business out on TV yet. She's not ready, I think. And she's like, and she's like, I'm not doing that. I'm not being paid enough for this. I'm getting $5 a day to be on the show. So, no. Yeah. So they're like, yeah, this is a safe place. unlike the rest of the group.

Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. So they're like, and they're like, is anyone, like, who's safe to talk to? No one saved to talk to to talk to. So Mimi is like, yeah. At Toya and Eugene's housewarming, there was some deflecting, and they called you out. And Brandy's like, yeah, I know I was caught off guard. Why was I called out? This is the second time in a row that Brandy's been called out out of nowhere.

Because Contessa called out Brandy when Brandy was being nice to her. now Toya called out Brandy. I feel like Brandy's so nice and they just keep on like going to going for her. I think just because they're new. So they're like, well, let's yell at the new people too so that they can feel like they're included. I think it's almost being nice. But let's just yell at this rando. We'll give them a shot, you know, but it never really works. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crap and's commercial. So they're talking about this whole big thing and they don't know why they were called out. And Mimi's saying, you know, you can tell when someone's trying to poke and poke and the owner of the house said she was going to kick out some hate and ass bitches.

But I'm not a hate and ass bitch. And that was nighttime Mimi. I forgot about nighttime Mimi. Nighttime Mimi after dark. Angel's like, well, she felt like somebody was hating or somebody said some things that will affect her marriage. And Mimi's like, well, if that's the case, that is imaginary. I mean, Siri, please play Drew Sidora, DeLulu. Delulu, everyone, anyone, no?

How much did you get paid to say that? That was crazy to hear that song brought up randomly. I liked it. I was proud of Drew. I actually thought that was funny, and I was proud of Drew. And it was nice for everyone to laugh and be like, who's that? It was nice to hear everybody's Siri across the country go. Yeah.

I'm not familiar. So now we go to Simone having lunch with her sister Carmen. And Simone's like, it's always fun when we're together. We haven't had a trip together in a long time though. And apparently they had a trip in January, which I'm going to say is not a long time. I don't know when this is film, but I'm going to say if it was within the calendar year, it's not a long time. It's never a long time from January. I don't know.

I'm taking a stance on this. I'm like, guys, Simone says it's been a long time since they've had a trip. I think they've had a trip. Simone is lying. Simone's a liar. Hey, Siri, please play Dululu by Drew Sedora. Talked about Dulu with her time frames.

So she talks about her sister Carmen being her best friend, et cetera, blah, blah, and I wish Carmen was on this show more. like Carmen a lot. She was awesome. Why? Yeah, I really liked it. I don't know. It's weird. It's weird that we're just meeting Carmen. And she's like, I tell Carmen everything. Where in the world is Carmen? We're in the world is Carmen. San Diego maybe. I tell Carmen everything. What I'm wearing, what I ate for lunch, and especially when Cecil is getting on my nerves. So they're talking about Cecil and she's crying. And she's like, they're never, Cecil's never on my side. which it's a great point.

And Cecil better watch his ass because I'm going to ask this every week. I know I've asked this every week since the beginning of time. Does Cecil work? I don't think so. I don't know. Cecil better get it together. Otherwise, he can go from Cecil to Sausal. Okay?

Let's get this together. Also, one thing that we never posted. See ya. That's better than Sausal. But one thing we never brought up, but someone in social media did a few weeks ago is that when those kids made that dinner before they tried to ask for a new car and everything. What was so funny is that they had gotten takeout and they had put the takeout into like disposable pans and heated it up.

Someone pointed out that when they poured the stuff out of the pans, the pans still had like the labels on them. They put the food in the oven on disposable pans that still had the plastic labels. And you guys want and you guys want a free car when you can't even take the plastic label off of your metal. disposable pan. Come on now. Come on. Yeah, but also like, do we blame Simone for this? Like, there are some things that I'm like, your kid just fed you plastic. That's a social fault.

Like, whose fault is like, it's got to at some point, we have to like blame the parents. You know what I mean? I know you can't blame the parent for every little thing. God knows my parents don't deserve every, you know, the blame for every crime I've ever committed. But some of them they do. And I, I would like to think like if I put a fork in the microwave or something like that, they would be blamed. Sometimes it's okay to criminalize parents, is what I'm saying. I think this is, I'm going to give this one to Cecil because I think Simone is off, you know. Simone's busy. You're right.

Yeah, Simone's busy. And Cecil is like allegedly had a startup for like, you know, hiring kids to do chores. So like he's literally in the space of overseeing children being responsible. And so like it's on him to teach the kids to take the plastic off of your metaltons before. But maybe he wanted to have that business. where kids had to work because he couldn't get his own kids to do chores. So he wanted to hire neighborhood kids to do the chores because his kids wouldn't do them. It's all making so much sense now.

I'm like upset about this. I'm really upset about this pasta thing. So Carmen, so basically venting about Cecil, et cetera. And she says, Simone's saying that, like this all happened and, you know, the whole fight and everything and how Cecil was very quiet. And basically, we cross cut this scene with Cecil's brother David going down to Cecil's basement bar. And Cecil's talking, you know, David just has gotten divorced and he's moved to Atlanta. And first they started talking about the divorce and everything. And Cecil then starts saying, see, a lot of times you and Simone and I, we're not even in the picture.

And David's like, yeah, you know, Simone, that's my sister. And I mean, we've known each other since the 90s. And like, that's not an in-law. Okay, she's, and she called me and she was hurting. And when you see your wife upset, the first thing you do is create a united front with your wife because at the end of the day, we know this for a fact. When these kids move on, they're gone, but the person that's going to be by your side is your wife. He's basically saying you fucked up. Well, he's also saying, I just got divorced.

So do you want to do what I did? Okay, then support your wife. And Cecil's just like, no, I'm sitting here drinking free liquor in the basement bar she bought me. So, no, I do not want to support her. And Cecil's getting on my last fucking nerve. And especially in this next clip where we get back to Cecil and he starts screaming and yelling about it when we've never seen this kind of energy out of Cecil ever until this. And it's like, you don't make that money, sir.

That money comes from her. So please stop saying we, we, we and RRR. That is her money. You don't do anything. Your kid's app is a failure. Okay. What have you sold? What have you sold in real estate?

Tell me, I don't believe you have a job and you don't get to be making decisions like this and not supporting your wife. Yeah, the only reason why Cecil is getting any sort of grace for me is because I just love saying the name Cecil. God, it's so fun. Cecil. Like, Cecil is like, it's probably like a top 1% fun name to say, right? Cecil. Well, isn't it like a cute mouse from a cartoon? I think he needs to keep that energy. I feel like Cecil the mouse would be supportive. Here are the names, here are two names that will give me, that will like automatically get like a little bit of grace for me for no good reason, which is Cecil and Chauncey. I love those names. Those are just adorable names. Yeah. I love. Chonsi is like, I love, I love, I love a Choncy. I love, I have a

friend named Choncy. And I think I'd like him, I think a good portion of reason why I like him is just because his name is Chonsie. And because he brings you alcohol while you're sitting in your drawing room. I mean, put a seat. Your butler, I've never known a real person named Chanty. I thought that was like a Butler name. and one of our listeners went to college with him. She came up to me in Cincinnati. I was like, I went to school with Chauncey. And I was like, you know, Chauncey?

Did he bring around her car often? Excuse me, Chauncy was that Chauncy is for RIP Chauncy on Southern Charm. Yes, he was pre-chon. He was pre-that Chauncy, yeah. And post.

You see? He's got life. Chauncy Billups, the basketball player, was just arrested as part of a giant, like gambling ring thing. And I was like, that's terrible that he participated. But his name is Chauncey. So I think you should let him go. Free Chauncy.

Chonsie Billups. Okay. I wonder if we ran numbers. Like how many people in prison are even named Chauncee? Probably none. I feel like that's a pretty Scott free name, you know? It's an adorable thing. Yeah, people just want you to serve.

It's like a serving name. So we go back to Simone and she's talking about how, um, Her husband, Cecil, was raised in a very iron-fisted home. His dad was really strict. And now he's going the opposite way in raising his kids, where he's like the sweet one, the fun one, and the nurturing one. And Simone now has to be Papa Whitmore. And so Carmen, the sister, is like, well, you know, people of his generation,

they overcompensate for what they didn't get from their fathers. And they didn't get the affection. So now he's overcompensating. So, you know, you have to agree on the limit. And she's like, but we can't agree on limits if he has no limits. What are you looking at? Tesla's to buy my son. I know, which is where this all winds up going, by the way, for people who have not paid attention.

So back to Cecil. And he's like, look, okay, here's the beauty. Here's the blessing from God. Our parents worked their hands to the bone. So we wouldn't be in the same situation as them. So we would have more money so that our boys don't have to stand in the financial aid line like I said for three. hours at Moorehouse to get to get you know mine okay and when I came up I said you know what my boys are never going to stand in the line for financial aid because that is something I'm

going to make sure of because that's the way it's supposed to be we're supposed to be moving as black people we get so caught up that we struggled then we'll be struggled so we all have to struggle all the time because we're going to be struggling forever he's basically like look we're trying to get generational wealth and we need to like use it and I think I mean I think that like there is a point to that right like you you work hard that way the generation under you can be better and better and better and better but also there's something I believe that like the younger generation has to kind of show up too so like if you've got a kid who's just like buy me a new car that's different from saying

like I've put in a lot of work I've been like a good student I've been working really hard try to better myself and then you know the parent says I'm going to help you along the way but if you have the kids that are just relying on that I think that That's what Simone is like, no, no, no, no. There's difference between trying to support your kids versus enabling spoiled brats. And I'm not saying these kids are spoiled brats necessarily. Well, he was acting like a spoiled brat in the last episode for sure. They are definitely acting a bit entitled.

And Simone's like, uh-uh, I'm not going to do that. I think it's great. I think it's great when parents can pay it forward to those generations. And I totally get what Cissel's saying. But the truth was, ultimately, Simone was like, uh-uh, I don't like this. And Cicel should have been backing up his wife. in that instance, even if he disagreed with her, they could talk about it later and say, look, your mom and I were talking and we decided that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But right in that moment, you've got to support Simone Cecil. Yeah, and I agree with what you're saying, like generational wealth and all that. And I can see what he's saying as far as that being important. And it's something new to him that he's glad to bestow upon his children and all that. But that doesn't mean giving your kids everything and making them do nothing. That's bullshit. It means like helping them when you can. and teaching them to be responsible adults.

I mean, we see so many kids in this world who are given everything and who turn into fucking assholes, you know? I mean, we're in L.A. We're surrounded by these people. You know, they're assholes, they're horrible people. And nobody likes them, okay? Nobody real likes these people. Like, you have to, you know, you have to teach your kids

how to work for what they get in addition to, like, them having the benefits of getting help. And, you know, Cecil does this whole monologue and says, Like, I don't want them waiting in the financial aid line and stuff like this. Okay, I get that. But he's making it sound, first of all, it's not necessarily like that from what I, I mean, applying for scholarships and stuff like that. It's also graduate school. Yeah.

Graduate school is different than college. I'm sorry. He's just a little too lit up over this for someone who's not paying for it. And that's the end of the day for me. Like, that's what it is for me at the end of the day. It's like, sir, she is the one out making all this money. double because she's the star of this show too or a star of this show. I would.

And she's working her ass off. And it's not like you're doing all this stay at home dad stuff. You built yourself a bar, sir. You know what I mean? Like she's doing it. You don't get to just go spend this money. And I know when you're married, it's both of your money. But not to this degree.

I'm going to say, let's just taking out the idea like, oh, she brings in all the money. Because I think if it were reversed, I would hate it if like the wife doesn't get a say just because like a stay at home mom. who's raising kids. Well, but just to amend it, just to amend it though, because in that situation, a lot of times the wife is the stay at home mom and she's doing all the caretaking, which is another job. That's like a totally different thing. Seesel doesn't do that. Seesle's not sitting at home, making their lunches, doing carpools and all of that shit. Those boys are away. They're at school. Seasel's not doing anything. And Simone's still out there working her ass off. So that's why I think it's different. I think what's more offensive is that he's fired up about this. And I feel like he should have shown some energy to be like, Don't talk to your mom that way. Not that the kids really sass off to her. He did. He did sass off to her. But like you said, what are your plans to do this?

And he said, well, my mom makes money. I hear my mom's pretty rich. Like, um, you're lucky I don't have a fly swatter. Yeah. Also, the thing is this. What I was going to say before a little bit was that like, you know, paying for your kids college is one thing. But, you know, graduate school, I think, you know, if a parent can help with something and,

and, and they want to, I think it's great. I actually would, I would, I would. never you know i think it's it's really it's wonderful when when a parent can support their kid if they choose to but i think that with graduate school it's like there's a there's a different cadence to that like there are a lot of people who go to work after a college and they get experience and they they earn money or whatever and then they they do put themselves through graduate school it's a little different than college if a parent says hey i want to help you you want to further yourself and your career i want to help that's great too but i don't think it's i don't think it's quite

the same as college. I think they're with college, I mean, it's a big ask to, but it is something that people do, which is that like at 18, you pay for your own college. It's definitely something to do, but it's a big ask. So like there are a lot of parents that will help out their kids. But I think graduate school, you're sort of like, I stepped into adulthood now. But I think the whole thing wasn't even really about if it's graduate or college. It was the, it was the tone of the conversation when he said, she's saying, well, we need to start thinking about your schooling and what are you doing and he's just like oh well you're going to pay for it like his whole attitude i think if she said okay what are your plans in order to get this car what are

your plans in order to go to this college and he said well i want to work but it's going to be hard for me to work full time and pay for the do all of this i might need help then she would have said i would be glad to help you if you're working right that's where the conversation she's not saying she doesn't want to support the kids i mean she bought them an apartment she's given them all this stuff it's not like she doesn't give them anything so The whole fight started because he smarted off door and Cecil didn't stand up for him and is now acting like she should just pay for everything. And it's just like she's feeling taken advantage of. It's like I work my ass off.

These people aren't even grateful and then they turn me into the bitch when they don't get every single thing that they want. The first thing he asked for was actually a new Jeep. He was like, I had a Jeep and that's cool. But now it's not so cool anymore. Now it's boring. Three and a half four years. So his priority was his Jeep. It was not the law school.

It's almost like he looped in the law school. to sort of almost seem like he had some responsible aspirations. And maybe he does. But again, these situations are also very subjective. They're a case-by-case basis. And you do have to look at the fact that they got him an apartment. They did this for him. They did this as well as the older brother.

And that they've done, it's actually been a lot. They've used up a lot of capital and not just cash. It's like, you know, they. And so I think at this point, Simone's like, you just ask for a car. And now you're going to tack on law school. it's like at some point it's like it can't just be about asking for things you got to go out in the world and start earning your keep and like and the fact that Cecil just sat there while she what she's getting really upset and he's not even saying listen you guys better apologize to your mother or you guys are being you know you guys are being really entitled because everything that Cecil said isn't necessarily wrong but has nothing to do with the way that the entitlement that the kids were showing in that moment right yeah so um cecil's going on and how his dad was so rough and he's promised his kids are never going to have to struggle. And his brother says, yeah, but we grew up in the same.

By the way, isn't it funny that he talks exactly like Cecil? You do. And they look at the same. Yeah, they, yeah. So he's like, we grew up in the same house. I get it. But you're not, you know, you're not catching this. Like your wife is amazing and you can't discount her.

And he's like, you know, you, you're saying I, I, I, I. And we've got the money. But you, you know, your kids are going to be all right. you're going to be stuck with your wife. That's the one who's your partner. So shut up. Yeah, exactly. It's like it's, and again, it's kind of like they graduated college.

Like the financial aid, like they're fine. They will figure out a way to make this work. So once they're gone out, truly out of the house, you've got a, you got your wife. So then Simone's meanwhile, she's like crying. And she's because she feels unheard. She feels unconsidered. And it's really, really hard. And she's at her breaking point.

And she's exhausted. She's tired. and it's like too much for her. And so her sister is consoling her. It's like really, it was a really good scene, actually. So now we go to Quad, and she's packing while King is watching her. And she's like, King, are you packed already? And he's like the thing that doesn't look like they're going for medical purposes.

It looks like you're going for a party. Why are you wearing Gucci to the hospital? She's like, oh, King. This little two pieces is a comfortable little two piece. That's Gucci. Bring Gucci to the hospital. That is what I've got. King.

You're going to be a Gucci to the hospital. Yeah, shut up. Who do you think you're with? She wears Gucci to go get the fucking groceries in the morning. Of course she's going to wear Gucci to the hospital. Who do you think you're marrying, sir? I'm sick of, I'm sick of King's smart ass over there. Okay.

And especially after this scene. So Quads like, King and I are headed to Ghana for a third round of egg retrievals. And so they, she talks about how the ladies had the supportive party for her. which there was no fights at, which is why they didn't show it. So we see a clip from that, and they're all lying around on pool floaties. And Jackie's like, this is where we support our new mother of the group and hope that something enters her vagina and gives her a child or whatever. And then Quad just jumps on her sobbing. Commercials.

Here comes one right now. She's full sobbing. You know, she's probably so mad that that whole scene got cut. So the king is like, someone happens if we don't get the results that we're looking for on this trip. Well, I'm praying this is our last time. But I mean, we're going to be hopeful, but we got to be practical at the same time. Practical? What am I not being practical about? You told me you don't mind. You just said all we'd do is have to do is make more money.

You said you didn't mind. So what's happening? It's been nonstop, though. Like, I have to go with you. Like, come on. But we did it. We knew we were going to have to go through this struggle. He's like, we thought it was going to be won a gun. Okay, really? So you're mad at having to spend all this money and time on IVF? That's not how it works. IVF takes forever sometimes.

But I don't like his impatience. The trips to Ghana. Is it, or is you like, I thought we only had to go to Ghana once. And he's like, this is we're going on to a third trip to Ghana. Maybe that's a practical. I mean, there are doctors that aren't in Ghana that, you know, there might be a more practical way to do this. I don't know. Maybe she got like some Instagram deal where it's like the doctor.

and Ghana offered. So she's going to get those discounts or whatever. I don't know. That was housewives, so you never know. Just a shame that they don't know any OBGYNs in this group, you know? Yeah, right. I just feel like he, if he's, he's not coming off as that supportive, even though she's trying to convince us that he is very supportive.

But his whole like, well, maybe we should just accept it that we're not, it's not going to work. It's like, no. And if you think this is a pain in the ass, wait until you get the kids. Well, he had... That's harder. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the thing is, he actually knows because he has a daughter.

So, Quata's like, babe, I don't want to come across like I'm forcing you to do something. But ever since day one, when you said, this is a dream of mine, this is what I would do. I would like to become a mom, just being by myself, side and supporting me through all of this. Like, you stopped your job and I recognized the sacrifices that you made for me. Sometimes I don't. I'm not the best with my attitude. And you just, I'm telling you, I'm owning that. It's like, you're running it.

and just like laughs. And she's like, yes, no one else can own my shit. I don't think anyone else wants to own that shit. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

And she's like, I don't want you to think I don't see what you're doing for me, okay? I don't know, I'm getting bad, bad vibes from this guy. Like,

I like, I like that she's with a hot guy and she seems very happy, but. Yeah, I'm bothered. I'm bothered. I,

there's a lot of warning signs about him. It's like, you know, I get a smart ass. I love a smart, obviously I am a smart ass. but it's rubbing me the wrong way. I agree. I agree. I think that some of his jokes, I don't, I've just never been comfortable with,

with people who make jokes at the expense of their partners. I just feel like it's, I feel like it's a slippery slope. It might start off as like funny like banter, but I feel like I've seen it across the board in all relationships and on TV, which is where our relationships are the purists, always go downhill to going from like funny banter slowly to like barbs to toxicity. So I get a little like I don't love that either. That being said, I do understand. If I if he is sort of like an availed way talking about like all these trips to Ghana,

these are a little, this is a little impractical. If that's sort of what he's talking about, then I can kind of understand. But if he's talking about like, and I also understand like let's not get overly consumed with this. If it's not meant to be, it's not meant to be. I understand that as well. But if he is just kind of a. like, well, we tried it once. It didn't work. Oh, well, moving on. I don't like that.

Yeah, I guess I think what's rubbing me the wrong way is that if he's felt this way, why is he waiting and tell they're on camera to say something to her? Because she seems genuinely shocked when he says, aren't we done? Like, how much more of this are we going to do? And she's like, but you knew we were going to have to do more? And he's like, no, I thought it was a one-off. It's like, I don't know. It's like he's too comfortable kind of cutting her down on camera already. You know, I just don't like it. Like the little comments, then doing this, and then her apologizing all the time. Like, well, I've apologized for my attitude.

It's like, there's just a lot adding up this making me not really like him. He had to know is not just a one-off because he did all that research on the last episode where he's like, I know. At one minute you're an expert on vaginas and now you're confused that IVF takes more than one shot sometimes. Yeah. So if he's saying I thought it was a one-off on IVF, I'm like, sir. But if he says I thought it was a one-off on going to Ghana, I'm like, I kind of get it. Yeah.

So then we go over to Simone. It's a ladies' event, build a bag. We're going to build our own bags. So Toya arrives, and Simone's like, we have so much tension in this group. So it started because Heavenly left her bag at Brandy's dinner. And Toya called it fake. And then Heavenly forgot to take the bag again from Toya's house. And she's like, if we can't.

be shady about a bag what are we doing so toia's like well we don't even on the sand while friends have to carry thick bags and there's this um woman named jacky who's like well we're gonna make some real ones with some real leather today because she's like a she's like a bag lady not like a bag lady who makes bags and has events where people make their own little floppy bags with fur trim and so so toyo's like yeah I'm like, but if you ain't got it, just don't do it. It ain't even that deep. I mean, says Toya, who's had a new house, a new rental every single year.

Come on now. Yeah. I mean, come on. Come on. And there's a new story today that she's even looking for a new house again. So, come on. So, Toria's like, well, I mean, I couldn't have heard Heavenly's feelings that bad by just by calling a bag fake. But, you know, it's not like anybody thought it was real.

You think that people think Heavenly is walking around the Jimmy Chul's and Balaciaga bag. the Gucci of vending dresses? No, we always think it's fake. Yeah, but here's the thing. We always think yours are fake too. Because who in their right mind would spend that much money on shitty clothes just because they have a circle that says Gucci or Chanel on it? I mean, you look like a dumbass.

So if yours isn't fake, you're actually the dumbest one on the show because that's crazy to be spending that kind of money on stupid shit. Yeah. So Mimi and Heavenly are driving there. and Heavenly is driving very fast and Mimi's like, slow down, slow down. And Heavenly's like, so it's you know, she said...

No, Heavenly's in her nice girl voice. She's like, I got you, girl, don't worry about a girl, I got a girl, now see how I held that curve? Now you saw that, now, how are we doing, girl? How are we doing, girl? That's my favorite heavenly voice. Yeah. So Mimi's like,

she's like, well, speaking, okay, well, let's talk about this group chat. She was like, oh, yeah, let's group chat. Well, all I said honestly was that we were telling each other happy Father's Day and Toya said she loved her husband and she was appreciated of him. And she's like, uh, well, Toya says so thankful for Eugene and my father's. And I'm so blessed and so are my sons and please wish your fathers and husbands an amazing father's day. Yeah, it was very, very sweet. And you said, make sure to tell him that, Toya.

Well, you don't know the history though. You don't know the history why I said that. And she says that the history is that Toya is always disrespecting her. and her man needs to hear her praise in front of the friends because everything she sees in front of the friends is negative about her man, which is a good point. So then we go back to Toya and she's like, oh, she should not be talking because we had this conversation and we said, don't mention my husband. So why are you on the text thread now telling me tell your husband happy father's day? I mean, I don't want to tell my husband. Like I'm almost 50 years old.

We got a good relationship. We got five green eggs. Yes, you clearly, you know exactly. what to tell your man, which is why you had to have a summit down in the basement by the Honda CRV signing table with margaritas in Mason jar glasses. So Simone is like, well, I didn't, so Toya's talking with Simone. She's like, I didn't perceive it as shady until you said it. Well, how could you not like, okay, come on, come on. Come on. Come on a cocktail. That was very shady. So now Jackie and Brandy arrive at the party and Angel shows up. And Brandy is saying that she's excited,

you know and she's you know about after all this back and forth with the bag there's been so much drama and uh and she's basically like yeah you know simon this you're being shady by throwing this event but like i also love the shade so i'm down for it so angel is saying that she wanted to take um a friend of hers to meet a doctor they wanted to they want to introduce the new girl angel to a doctor so she's like i was tried to get to come to the office to meet the doctor and angel's like like, well, the top three things I look for a man is to know their connection with God, because if they don't have one, my kids' names are going to make no sense. And they need to be smart and be loyal.

Be good if he was hot. But those other things, I really want a kid named Tithe. So I'm really working on a religious person. I just can't wait to introduce this new man to my child confession. These are my confessions. So Angel is like She's like okay So what type of material are we using?

Look, okay, it's right here But I don't want to I don't want to touch heavily stuff Until she tells us to touch it Or Jackie's stuff to tell it So they're like okay So they're just checking the bags I'm checking to see if it's real leather And she's like

Yeah yeah no it's real leather I mean is it okay though Because the people seem to think to fit in They gotta come in with some fake shit If you know what I'm saying It's like yes to yeah we get it You think that heavenly has a big bag Yeah we get it

It's just your big story is Heavenly has a fake bag, which Heavenly doesn't even care she's admitted its take. Like, who cares? So she's like, why you got to try and fit it like that? You got to have to ask heavily about it. And so Heavenly comes in and, you know, it's like, So then Contessa shows up. And Contessa, like, they're all sort of dressed relatively casually as much as one is on Bravo. And Contessa comes in in like this.

this sequins, blue-purple kind of dress that's like mini, I don't know what you call those, those sort of dresses, like a miniskirt, but it's like, you know, but it's like a going out, going out to the club dress. And I was like, Katessa, what is happening? Right. Toria just goes, where are you going? She's like, just to see my girls, I've been cooped up with kids. I thought it was a sexy day.

And they're like, no. And I guess it's later that they're like, no matter where Contessa goes, she will dress inappropriately. And they show a big clip of Contessa just dressing wrong for every event. Yeah, I think Heavenly was like, she's like, Contestine's a beautiful girl, but she just doesn't know what to do with it. Yeah. So this woman, Jackie, like, trying to throw this event. And she's like, okay, everyone, welcome.

Okay, okay. So we're going to have a drinks. And then you're going to get one minute to cheese materials. But they're like not really paying attention because now we go over to the men's. Because what's more fun than watching the men sit around? and smoke cigars. I was like, uh,

hot take. I really don't care about the scenes when the men get together. Although this one was okay. You know, Eugene was sort of confrontational, but generally speaking, when the men was around, it was good because usually it's Eugene coming after everybody else,

right? Like, and he tried it in this one. It's like, your wives, you know, he's always trying to do like, the guys are crazy,

but the guys keep it separate from the wives. But this one, he's trying to blame everything from his wife onto all the other wives. And I like to take it. they didn't let him do that. Yeah. Because basically they bring up the party, right?

They bring up the other party and the shit show that that was. And, well, no, first they talk about the office. They talk about this new office. And Eugene's like, well, you know, I knew we were going to rent from you, Scott. But, you know, Toya went and you know she's pretty judgmental. And then we see Troya being like, you're supposed, people are going to be pooped outside of your office. And we're moving up like the Jeffersons. And it's like, yeah, Toria said no.

So we'll be looking for a different place. Go to a different place. And Curtis is like, well, don't go up to Dunwoody or Duluth because then my wife's can burn down your office. Yeah, because she's doing weight loss stuff too. So then we go back to the ladies. And they're like, okay, ladies, we're going to make our own leather clutch. So you're going to have one minute to get your stuff.

And they're like, well, what if someone else takes our leather? There's, someone's like, you take it from them. No, Jackie says, you're going to take it from them. That's what you do. Take what's yours. So, Jackie, so then Toya's like, um, by the way, so do we put the leather on the inside and the outside of the bag? And Jackie's like, yeah, that's, this is a real leather bag. She was, okay, because some people are not used to that.

So Brandy's like, you're so shady. Wait, wait a second, why is everyone looking at me like that? I was just saying some people are not used to leather on the. the inside and the outside of their bags. Some people have fake leather bags. That's all I'm saying, because I have a friend whose purse I brought with me.

Hey friend. And she pulls out Heavenly's bag and Heavenly is like, she's trying, really trying to like not like pop off because she's like, you know, she's like, well, I know,

you know, all I know is my portfolio. Because she's saying like, I'm running for office. It cannot go off on Toya, which unfortunately for her does not. Yeah, you can go off on Twitter. You can do whatever you want in office now. This is 2026.

Do whatever the fuck. You could murder somebody and still win, you know? So, Toya's like, I want her to be able to tell which one is real based on the leather. So I thought it would be a good example. She's like, well, I do know about my portfolio. That's what I know, Toya. That's all I know. And I think it's thicker than a lot of people's in here.

Right, Toya? College funds, something like that, Toya. And she's like, well, what? No one wants to use this for an example. No one wants to use it. Jackie's like, you got one minute for materials. Come on. I'm trying to have a scene for you guys.

So they all go and they pick out their materials and everything. And she's like, okay, you're going to make your bag. You're going to create a border and you cut out the leather and stuff. And Contessa's like, you want to got, you guys want to know something funny? Like something funny from Contessa. That would be a first. Well, guess what? Guess how Scott paid his way through medical school.

He sold fake coach bags. He gave me a fake coach bag. And he was like, you can't even tell it. I was like, I can tell Scott. And I was like, why are all these girls calling Scott up? And it turns out he really was selling coaches. I went to his house. He really had coaches.

And then I finally, I was like, okay, now that you finish your residency, you have to stop selling the coach bags. Guys, isn't this a hilarious story? I actually thought it was. And I loved this about Scott. This is the best thing we've ever learned about Scott. It actually made me like Scott. He paid his way through college making fake bags. I love that.

That's such a unique husband story. He sold fake. He sold fake bags in order to get his real bag. Yeah, that's right. So then we go back to the men and they bring up Toya. So Scott's like, oh, okay, so Toya doesn't want to rent for me. So is she still mad at you from your party the other night? Huh?

Is she mad? And she's still mad at all the other husbands? And Damon's like, I don't know. I hope not. Dr. Daddy signing in. Yeah. It's like, I mean, you know, look, this is what Heavenly Lee was saying that you that you and Toya's relationship,

you guys talk to each other in a way that you guys talk to each other. And that works for you guys. And Curtis is like, yeah, I mean, we all have an opinion on how you and Toya relate to each other because it's not how Jack and I relate to each other or how Scott and Contessa relate to each other

or how Damon heavenly relate to each other or how most people relate to each other. I mean, you guys don't even buy vintage cars and drive around in them or anything like that. And the difference is that she'll just dump it out in public. And I've never really seen you come back at her in public. And, you know, that's fine. That's how it works for you guys. That's good for you. You guys have your own dysfunctional communication and it works for you. Disfunctional for us. Functional for you. Your wife for, you know,

you forgive your wife for screaming at you in public. My wife forgives me for cheating. So we all have our things. And Eugene's like, well, you know, I think that, you know, a lot of the wives at this point are just stressing her out. You know, like I, I did hear, I did hear heavenly. say that's not how Eugene likes to be talked to. I mean, I think that was a little bit of a jab. She was standing up for you because you were getting yelled at your own party. I mean, what the hell? So Eugene's like, yeah, okay, look, we have unconventional communication. She likes screaming at me in public and I like saying, I'm sorry. And then buying multiple appliances, multiple small appliances. And Damon's like, well, you know, I mean, you look at it a little bit different.

And Eugene's like, well, only because I'm privy to some of the comments they say to you. I mean, they're just not positive. Your wife is screaming at somebody right now across town, mocking them in front of everybody for like the fourth day in a row for having a fake purse. Yeah, exactly. You just don't have a leg to stand on when you're saying everybody's need to toy. I'm sorry. And that is not an insult of your manhood when we say you don't have a leg to stand on. You don't have a third leg to stand on.

he's like i don't know i've just seen in running it's like an insult to my manhood and damon's like well very rarely as my wife said something to you he's like well not to me but about me and you never said anything that i thought was disrespectful to me or my family none of you guys all the guys are pretty i mean men right men are pretty sane right but wimandrises like yeah but uh toya has given it as good as she has gotten it so yeah they show the they show the clip of of Toya being on watch what happens. And Curtis has had his hands on many of the women. So he needs to keep his hands to himself.

And I mean, probably in Eugene's mind, it's like, yeah, but that one made you look more like a man that wasn't emasculating. Eugene's like, yeah, I'm not saying my wife is innocent or any wife is innocent. I'm just saying, you know, like we're just one moment we're talking about it back. And then suddenly it's like, your husband's got a little dick. And I'm like, where did that come from? Right. Right. Well, yeah.

But it's okay. your wife is like poor shaming somebody or saying that she's richer than them and everything else and trying to humiliate them in that way. You're totally fine with that until it comes to your little dick, which I'd like to point out again only came up because Toya said it on camera. Little dick only came up that way. So Chris is like, well, the women have said stuff about every man in this group and it's just the way it goes. Okay, women, women are crazy, men are chill. Don't you know that's the first rule of this show? And Damon's like, yeah, I know what needs to change the wives. And Eugene's like, wait, we've got to change wives. And then we've got to change wives.

Yeah. And also good luck with that. Good luck with that, Damon. So then we go back to the ladies. And Simone's like, so, Toya, I did talk to Heavenly today. And she confirmed that she did not mean any shade by the text on Father's Day. And she's like, well, I would do what she didn't tell me that. I didn't mean anything by Toya. If I meant something by it, I would say it honestly, you know that about me, Toya. Honestly, I thought that was pretty direct. I'm so blessed and so my sons. Please wish your father and husbands and amazing father's day.

Please sure to tell him that on camera, Toya. That was pretty, that was, that was, that was, that was pretty mean. And Heavenly was like, yeah, well, I say it in front of everybody. Because you embarrass him in front of everybody. And it makes us so feel so, fucking, so fucking uncomfortable, Toya. And so, Brand is like, yeah, that was shady. So, I have a list like,

it was a positive text. It was very, very positive. And she was, it was a good text. Well, I felt like it was a really good text. It was a really good text. So Angel's like, well, this is what I have to say. Hello, I'm Angel. Okay, this is what I have to say.

If you've sent a message out, saying make sure you to tell your husband that on camera, prior to that, heavenly, it was a conversation about you speaking about her husband on his penis eyes. And she had a problem with that. And I don't think you know when you offend someone. And she's like, yeah, but she mentions my family on the other text.

And you'll look like you didn't even see that whole fucking text. And we see Toya saying in text, you should focus on your own family, especially on camera. I'm sure they need that same support from you. And Toya's like, keep your day battle by mouth. And it's like, well, stop doing negative shit your hope. And then, I mean, he might like it. I don't know. All I was saying, it was from a good place, though.

like shut the fuck up. And Evelyn's like, you shut the fuck up. What you need is to shut the fuck up. It's like, well, you're deflected from what you said, which was shady. You do the shit all the time and you're a fucking liar. Yeah, and you're so,

you're a damn fake-ass bitch. And then Jackie's like sitting there on the side, being like, oh, God. Monologue from Jackie time, guys. And also, Toya, you started it with the purse comment. I'm sorry. You can try and twist this any way you want to. Like, oh, she was mean, though.

And they turn it in. Jackie says, you don't have to throw a boulder when they throw a rock. If you throw a rock at somebody and you get a boulder back in your face, you'll still go to jail for being the one that threw the rock. Right? Yeah. People are allowed to defend themselves. If it's a boulder, it's a boulder. Okay. Don't get mad at the mountain after you threw a rock at it.

Exactly. It's a monologue time for Jackie. Famous proverb. Don't get mad. You think it's go tell it to the mountain? No, it's go throw the rock at the mountain. see what sort of rock the mountain throws back

and then throw that rock back at it and just go back and forth until you realize you're just throwing rocks yeah dummy so then Jackie monologue she's like Contessa,

toil, angel brandy, heavenly Maria that other lady I forgot from the first season who had an English accent for no reason

Carrie now listen I'm soft spoken because my heart hurts it's broken We've been there when times have been tough And I'm really sad right now That we've created this group

Where we can't help each other Pick out dildos Or discuss vibrators Over a nice calm lunch You and Toya have never been This broken before And Heavenly Don't throw a boulder

If they threw a rock You know And she's like I just think It's sad we're at a place where we can't even make bags that look like unfilled raviolies without yelling at each other. We can't even create bags that look like

envelopes from a bill collector, covered in fur, without fighting. Ferry, unfilled ravioli. Jackie's like, I truly think that you were trying to come at Toyo the right way. I do. Wrong time. Wrong message thread. Oh, and by the way, I smell funky. You guys made me lose my deodorant. I didn't know what I was smelling.

I'm funky now. I smell funky. Thank you, ladies. I thought it was the leather. So, Heavenly is like, now look, I really don't have a problem with Toya. I hope that we can learn from this and we can grow because we're sisterhood and I will always be there for Toya when she gets ready and when she needs me there to pay her

rent and I'll be there for her. The place that Heavenly and I can go is up and if she means what she says and keeps her word and I will wait and see you, but I definitely don't believe that she's not going to talk about my husband anymore. Which is correct. She will continue to.

And she will talk about your husband and your mother too. And your mom. Your mom. Yes. And everything else. Yes. Oh, well, what a blessing. All right, everybody. Thank you so much for being here. We will talk to you tomorrow

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