Watch What Crappens - 3153 Rhobh S15e04 Part One Sedona Nobis Pacem

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

This is part one of a two-part recapThe women head to Sedona, Arizona on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and along the way Amanda reveals herself to be the a-hole we knew she’d be.  But m...aybe it’s worth it just to see the other women squirm. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker. Joining me, today is the one and only Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Good. I'm just over here scrolling my Instagram to see if the guy from heated rivalry messaged us. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Come on, Scott Hunter. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. I'm sure he's totally in love. Where is my DM, Scott Hunter? For those who don't know what Ronnie is talking about, we had the immense privilege of going to the Spotify and Hollywood Reporter party to celebrate the Golden Globe nominees for Best Podcasts. And so we had a great time there. And then the two of us, as well as Ariana and Logan, we basically forced ourselves into a photo with Francois Arnold, is that his name, right?
Starting point is 00:01:16 from heated rivalry and it was great. I'm the guy from the other two too. The guy was Drew Tarver from the other two. And Nehner Debrough, we basically forced this crazy photo. I don't know if anyone was as thrilled as the poor of us were. But I took the lead. I took the lead. I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:01:35 I said, I will be the one who will shamelessly interrupt these famous people talking to get the photo because it needs to go on our Instagram. So I went up. I don't think the guys were too pleased with me, truly budding into their conversation and they had every right to have been like give me a gritted teeth smile but it was worth it it was worth it for the photo of the gram and now hopefully ronnie will have a new boyfriend so we'll see ron oh i'm sure i'm just what he's looking for yes well that being said it's an exciting day also here because on top of taking photos with heated rivalry stars and on top
Starting point is 00:02:10 of being reunited with our lovely ari animatics it's also the day that the tickets have gone on sale for the crappies. Speaking of Ariana, Ariana has been in some form or another at every single one of our live crappy shows. So we now, the next one is going to be on February 27th at the Fonda Theater in Los Angeles. Tickets are on sale now. They're on our website.
Starting point is 00:02:35 They're on our social media. Go get them. Let's sell this thing out and have the best night ever. We're going to be giving out awards for everything on Bravo that we feel is award. and even beyond, you know, Love Island, traitors, all that good stuff. Like, let's do this thing. Let's have fun. We're going to build a ballot. We're going to have a great night. It's going to be a night of memories, y'all. So come and join us.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Y'all's is. Yes, that's going to be a great time. Also, ad free is now on Patreon. If you're looking for ad free, go over to Patreon. That's where you get it. Also, all of our episodes are there from the very beginning, which is hard to get on some platforms. So go over there. And also, that's where you get videos. and bonus recaps. And this week, we will be talking about the traitors. So we've got a busy day today.
Starting point is 00:03:21 We've got Beverly Hills. We've got two episodes of the Valley and we've got the traitors. So we're not going to shut the fuck up today. So I hope you're ready to listen. All weekend long, my little pets. All right, let's get to it. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season 15 episode for a housewives. He wave.
Starting point is 00:03:40 This show is struggling. I'm just going to start off this recap by saying, this show needs some energy, it needs some life. Rachel Zoe might not have been the proper choice for that, even though I still enjoy Rachel Zoh, but I don't know. I'm starting to doubt. Now that said, Rachel Zoh is friend of energy. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:01 She does, when they cast her, I knew she was going to be a dud. Because like her, this just isn't her vibe. She's very low key. And Beverly Hills is at its weakest when it's focusing on their looks and leaning into like their fashion. I know that there are certain people who really like it. And that's nice. I feel like that should be like a nice fringe benefit of Beverly Hills. But a lot of times that gets centered as being the only thing that's happening. So when they cast Rachel's O, they were pretty much sending out a flare saying, this is going to be a dumb season. That's what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:04:35 They were saying this is going to be a season where they walk into rooms and squeal at each other's outfits and there'll be like some minor dustups, but it's going to be a nothing. And it's a shame. because I thought last season was really good. I thought the last two seasons were really good. And this one is just lifeless. And I wonder if part of it is because it's on while you have, you know, Salt Lake City, which is basically a circus. I mean, I complained the other day that like Salt Lake City may have to rein it in
Starting point is 00:05:01 with some of these, you know, contrived, manufactured season finalees that they're trying to do. But at least they're trying to do something and they're having fun. But this show, I think there's like a sense of self-satisfaction that like what they're putting up there is interesting. And you know, I mean, I think. I like all the players actually quite a bit, but the show itself is languid and just as lacking at polls. It's like dead on arrival. Yeah. I mean, that said, they did bring in a new beach ball for the Seals to toss around, which is this desperate girl, the money queen. I mean, she's a wreck
Starting point is 00:05:33 and she's a horrible human being, which I love. She's new money trash. And I'm loving watching them warm up to bully her for a whole, because you know, that's Beverly Hills. They find someone, and they bully them. And that's it. So they found somebody and it's good. It seems like she's deserving. It seems like it's someone who's deserving of bullying, which, listen, I love some deserved bullying, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:55 I think there should be amendments to the Trevor Project. But, yeah, so it seems like that's going. And I do, I will say, I still enjoy the show. I mean, it is just like an easy, breezy show to kind of get through. But they just could be doing so much more. And I know it's only episode four. And I know that we need to give the new, the new people some time to warm up and maybe Rachel Zoe will, you know, have a year and the next year come in swinging.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I mean, I don't know, but. Right. That won't happen. Yeah. It is fun watching the destruction of Sutton and Jennifer's relationship because Sutton is yet again pushing someone way too far, way too fast. And she's going to get it because Jennifer, you're not doing Jennifer some huge favor by having her on this show, you know? And I think Sutton probably has that feeling of like, well, I brought you on the show. It's like, no, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:06:44 This is the bride of Chucky. How dare you. Have some respect. You were talking to an Oscar nominee. Yes. Also, I mean, you could also do a conspiracy theory that, you know, Kyle Richards, she basically produces the show and she calls the shots. If she did, if this were, it's this theory were false.
Starting point is 00:07:03 She would have been probably off the show a while ago because she's honestly, she just gives us what like is like the is, she sort of manufactures and puts it in a bow and gives it to us. us and like, look, I'm being honest with you guys, but it's really not. And if you look at it, like, I mean, all of a sudden's crew has slowly been dismantled over the past few years, where it's now down to just, um, what's her face, uh, Jennifer. Like, you don't have Garcel, you don't have crystal. There really wasn't much more beyond that. But the point was that like, sudden, there was a moment there where Sutton was, was making a, she was making a play to sort of move to the center of this cast and
Starting point is 00:07:42 Fox Force 5 has continued to reign supreme. Something's got to be done. I don't know what it is. It's just I don't know, but I do have to say, Amanda Francis, on any other season, on any other show, I'd be like, get this, oh God, this one's terrible also.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Because she is an asshole. She's clearly a fraud. But she's like the asshole and the fraud that this cast really needs. Because watching her annoy every single one of the castmates just made me happy. Like every time they give her a side eye, I just like laugh. I was Like you deserve this, people. You brought this on yourselves.
Starting point is 00:08:13 You brought on Amanda Francis because you guys are too protected. You're too protective of yourself and you're too self-producing. So this is what you get. You get Amanda Francis. Deal with her. Yeah. Deal with it. Suckas.
Starting point is 00:08:25 All right, well, let's get into it. Here we go. We open with Bose. A mom-daughter driving scene. Like, oh, my God, you're driving so crazy. This is nuts. I have a daughter. A daughter who drives.
Starting point is 00:08:37 What am I going to do? And yeah, then we go to Rachel, and she's like sitting by her pool. And she's like talking, she's talking to Caius. Caius, tell me about Camp, Caius. Tell me about everything. How was it camp? No, Rachel.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Rachel, you tell me more about camp, as I'm giving me more. Okay? I need you sitting in your flip-flops by your pool every, every episode, talking to fucking Caius. Okay? What did Caius go through screen test for this show? Is Caius a new housewife? I need less caius and more crazy from you.
Starting point is 00:09:12 More, yes. I was going to say, less bias. Oh, I thought you said pious, but I was like, pious doesn't make sense. Bias makes sense.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Bias makes sense. I need something. I need something with your lowy cftans. Also, what are you hiding? I feel like Rachel is a caftan person. What is she hiding? I feel like it's like Meredith Marx's blazers,
Starting point is 00:09:33 like where she even wears swimsuits with a blazer jacket. And remember how I, thought for years, like she secretly had penguin arms or something. I was like, what are you hiding under the blazers? Like, we didn't see her arms for literally, I think, 80 episodes. And I'm wondering that with Rachel, what's happening? Are you just ahead on a popsicle stick? Yes. She's hiding so much. So she's like, Kias, I don't think I could get any higher. Like, you couldn't, your IQ and your EQ are so high. Like, you couldn't be like more perfect. Like, I'm serious. Like, I die. I die for your IQ. I'm going to call it to die cue because it's just like I die for it.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Be safe. Okay. Stop picking your face and have a best time. Okay. Kaius. Don't pick your face. You get too much of an EQ to pick your face. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Kai. Kai. So then we go over to Erica's house, Erica doing laundry, which you know what? Gives me joy. I'm just going to say, I love watching Erica do menial tasks. I feel like she deserves it. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So she's doing her laundry and she's checking the lint filter and say, oh my God. Who hadn't cleaned the lint filter? This is disgusting. Who did it? You. What are you going to do? Blame Mikey? Where is Mikey, by the way?
Starting point is 00:10:42 Why haven't we seen Mikey? We've seen Lyia, but we haven't seen Mikey. Yeah, you're right. Well, the season's still young. He'll come around. He always comes around. She only has three people in her life. You think Mikey is, like, sick of getting blamed for that fucking wind trap.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Like, Batch. I just hit, I just hit go on the dry machine and see what happens. I love running the risk of fire, because this machine is, Fire bat. You are fire bat. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappence commercial. And then we go over to Sutton's house and Sutton's arranging a T-Sat.
Starting point is 00:11:23 She's like, bagonnet. A badgone, I haven't put cheese out. That's okay. You know what? But she really likes cheese. Jennifer likes cheese. Need the gates and cheese. And so Jennifer comes over and she's like, oh my gosh, you got me cheese.
Starting point is 00:11:37 How fabulous I feel like I'm in England This is fabulous So they go and they sit down And Sutton tells us I've changed my drinking habits Over the past few months I took some time off
Starting point is 00:11:53 And I just wanted to regroup So now I'll have a glass of wine Or a glass of champagne That I can enjoy And it's just a change of lifestyle Again I say you guys brought this on yourself And look now you guys are having a boring season because you shamed Sutton out of enjoying her tequila in the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Now Sutton can't pour fucking Tito's into her, her Cheerios. Okay, you did this, you guys. This is you. Yes. Let our show everybody just be wasp and have their afternoon tipple. These housewives shame everybody for being an alcoholic and then wonder why their shows get boring. Can we shame people for other things?
Starting point is 00:12:33 Jeez. Yeah. Seriously. So then we go to Jen. Jennifer's confessional, and she's like, well, I just had a bit of an afternoon tipple. So I think I've lost my drinking companion, but it's okay. It's a positive thing for her. I don't know if you've ever been around a sober sudden, but it's challenging. It's challenging times we're living in.
Starting point is 00:13:02 She's like, it's not as much fun to wear a kaff tan if the other person isn't drinking. something so then Sutton's like well I've had a very very very busy morning those flowers in the vase they used to be on a different part of the table and I moved them busy morning busy morning I just woke up actually it's 1 p.m. so Sutton's like well I've been busy planning a trip for myself somewhere I've always wanted to go to said Dona and I'm inviting everyone one. Jennifer's like, oh, okay, you're inviting everyone. Well, so it won't be so relaxing. If it'll be nice, we'll meld our feminine energy. And Sutton's like, um, yes, Sedona is a place
Starting point is 00:13:48 of healing. You know, it's a place of jeeps that you get into, healing jeeps, pink healing jupes. And I think all of us have some healing to do. I've always wanted to go somewhere peaceful, somewhere where women can just be women being peaceful. God, I want to drink. Poor Sutton, trying to try and to have this season where she's going to be sober and peaceful is hilarious. This cannot last more than two more episodes. I just don't see it. And also, she's already got the attitude of someone who's trying to drink or trying to drink less for like five minutes.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And listen, I've been there. You know, I get it. But she looks extremely stressed out by the end of this episode. Like, I will not drink too much. God damn, my man, do you know Erica from shit? It's like, oh, my God. Just get her an IV. Get her something.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Yeah. So, a sudden saying that she wants to bring everyone to Sedona, she also wants to work with her relationship with Doreet. She says that they've gotten to a place where we're safe and cordial. And I really think I can become friends with Doreet. And I really think we can do that in Sedona, where I can become friends with her and then yell at her and then cry in her face and accuse her of being a bad friend.
Starting point is 00:14:59 That'll probably happen, right? So we see them talking about divorce and how Sutton was like, you know what, you will come short. You will survive this. You'll just have to get through it. And one day, you're going to wake up. It's going to be a new day. You're going to walk to that mailbox and you're going to have a letter from the Pope telling you that your last name is now brown. All the names.
Starting point is 00:15:24 At a certain point, when you get divorced, you just get associated with a corporate logo. and I was given you PS and that's fine. That is my lot in life. So Sutton says, I think with Doreet, we are touching on a few friend points. Yes, yes, yes. You don't want to barge in like, I'm going to be your friend.
Starting point is 00:15:43 You don't want to just come in like that, Sutton. Yeah, you just don't want to be overboard about it. Oh, I'm sitting on your friend now. Well, I wouldn't do that. And that's not what this is about, Jennifer. And I would appreciate it if you didn't. mock me. She's like, I'm not mocking you. I'm just having a drink right now, something that you used to do with me. Well, don't say, well, don't say don't go in there.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Okay. Like, I'm not going to. I'm not going to go in there and be like that. I'm not going to be aggressive. I'm not going to act like that. Jennifer. Which is, by the way, exactly what Son is going to do. That's exactly what she's going to do. And one thing we know from Sutton's first season is that she is going go in there because that was like her first struggle on the show with Crystal, remember, walking into her room. Crystal's like, I am naked. How dare you? I'm triggered. So,
Starting point is 00:16:36 Settin, Jennifer, it's like, well, I'm just reiterating what you're saying. I'm not saying anything more than that. I'm just grateful for the cheese. Sure, sure. So Jennifer tells us, with Saturn, sometimes I think
Starting point is 00:16:53 that she gets all worked up and it's anxious or something like that. And something she, sometimes she hurts people that she doesn't mean to hurt. And I described it once as like, she's like a Catherineville, you know, like that firework that spins around and around. You put it in a tree and the sparks go everywhere and it burns out. And then sometimes you just get hit by the sparks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You're talking about an abusive relationship, by the way. Anybody who's got Lifetime has heard this speech before. He doesn't mean it. I mean, he's a teen heart throb named Rob Lowe. Surely he doesn't mean. to be hurtful, but he did chase me down the street with a knife, but I'm sure that he didn't mean it. Yeah, you're, yeah, get out of there. So she's not put sparklers in trees.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I'm just going to say that right now. Let's not put sparklers in trees. No more Catherine wheels. Well, we don't even need Catherine wheels with neighbors like mine. In Texas, I have neighbors who literally sit on the street. They pull out lawn chairs and then I'll put them on their lawn, okay? They put them on the street. And they sit there and they set off their fireworks.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And the fireworks hit everybody else's houses. And the first year I was there, they hit my neighbor's house and a bush started on fire. And they were just sitting there watching the fucking bush on fire with their kids. I was like, okay. You know what? Next year I'm going to come out here and I'm going to aim fireworks at your children. I'm going to sit directly across the street. Who are you?
Starting point is 00:18:17 Who does this? You know? I think I think I think Fireworks are a family of Catherine wheels. Yeah. Yeah, seriously. And you've got a flat tire. Okay. And listen, if fireworks done professionally with a company, that's great.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Like the whole like the backyard fireworks, the street fireworks, you're trash. I'm sorry. I'm just saying that right now. I am tired today, well, I'm not tired, but I'm just saying like I didn't get a lot of sleep last night. So it's all coming out. That's what's happening. Okay. Which is that I have to say, I'm taking a stance on fireworks.
Starting point is 00:18:48 If you're doing fireworks in the street, you're trash. Like congratulations. You shot off one fireworks. and you had a very like pathetic display of like parotechnics in the sky. Like why are you trying to do this? Why are you doing this? You're annoying every single other person. Because the thing is with professional fireworks,
Starting point is 00:19:06 you generally know when they're going to happen. But like with like fireworks in the street, you'll just be in your living room doing something. And then like all of a sudden an explosion goes off. You're like, I wasn't prepared for that. Why are you doing that for me? And now you also probably caught something on fire. Trash. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Yeah. Well, the same neighbors have these little kids. and they had lemonade stands. And I used to buy a lemonade stand at lemonade from these kids. They never said thank you. By the way, that lemonade was like $10. So fuck those kids. And they would sell honey for like 20 bucks.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And I would buy it. And they never even said thank you. You know, that whole family. I should firework your whole house. Firework them. That would be a good use of fireworks. Just set up a Catherine wheel right over their front door. Just let them bunk them in the head as it goes around as they walk out the side.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Well, I think that's too threatening when you have a child. So I'm just going to go next time I'm just going to dress like a really sad clown. I'm going to stand on their front lawn holding a sparkler. Just start calling them Catherine, and they'll be like, why are you calling me, Catherine? You're like, it's a reference to a stupid firework from medieval times. It's my way of dissing you. So Jennifer says, well, Saturn, your intentions are good, and that's all that matters. She's like, well, the road to heaven is paved with good intentions.
Starting point is 00:20:20 No, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. intentions. She's like, oh, well, get out of my house. I bought cheese for you. This is the moment that. Jezebel, cheaterer, betrayer, Judith. This is the moment that son realized she was going to hell. She's like, but you mean all this time I was making a road, a road with good intentions?
Starting point is 00:20:41 It wasn't going to heaven. I've been going the wrong way. How long will I be going down this highway? So now we go to Doreet's kitchen where she is prepping her. her dog food in like those bronze bowls, copper bowls. I don't know what you would call them. They're fancy balls. I think they're very much.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I mean, they're like home goods fancy, but they're still nice. I mean, look, I felt like I should compliment her dog bowls. I really like them. It was a nice moment. I felt like you were being very inclusive in that moment. So she lets Kyle in because she's like, guys, my friend Kyle's coming over, so you'll probably smell her dogs. Please don't go crazy barking.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I always think this is like really funny. Okay, as long as I'm ranting and I'm like alienate, well, I've already alienated the fireworks contingent of our audience. I apologize. I was, I clearly got triggered by this whole Catherine mail situation. I have a new, I have a, I have another pet peeve about pet owners. I'm not even going to say it's dog owners. I just see it more with dog owners, but people would do it with their cats too. I understand everyone talks to their pets.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Of course. Like, that's fun. Like, everyone talks to their pets. It's really fun. But what I don't understand are when people, when people, when people, what's the right word are trying to like when people are trying to murder
Starting point is 00:22:00 no when you're trying to like reprimand your pet like if your dog is jumping up too much if your dog is like being too aggressive to someone who's coming to the house and you're trying to pull your dog back or whatever or the dog is doing something in public that's crazy I always think it's funny when dog owners
Starting point is 00:22:21 reprimand them by trying to speak logic to them like like like here Doreet saying like okay you guys you probably smell her dog so please don't jump up as if the dog is going to hear that sentence understand every word in it or any word in it and be like oh she makes a good point we should probably be chill like what like I get like the casual you talk to your dogs because it's like that's just like pet ownership is kind of like you sort of have like there's some sort of like a proxy relationship there and like I would talk to my cat when I had a cat But like I was at a friend's house and his dog was going crazy and running all over the place and his the dog the
Starting point is 00:22:59 The tail was wagging knocking over glasses and My friend was like listen you really have to stop you know you really you have to stop you're you're really out of control I need you to really stop and I was like the dog doesn't know the dog doesn't know this why are you doing this why are you talking like that It understands tones it does not understand sentences. Okay, okay, so Ben is just basically advocating for people to beat their dogs is what he just said. I'm advocating on national podcast radio. I'm advocating for better use, better tools of reprimanding so that way it's like effective.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I'm not advocating for abuse, but I'm advocating for something more than trying to have a logical conversation with an animal that does not. I do it all the time. No, I do it to my dog all the time. And you know I do. You know, I'll be like now, is this what we want to do?
Starting point is 00:23:50 You know, I don't like this kind of behavior. But I do think that they hear the tone, which is, that's the thing. Like they can hear the nagging in the tone, you know. And then that switch is when he doesn't listen. It switches to, God damn, I'm going to fucking kill you. And he knows what that means too.
Starting point is 00:24:06 So. No, it's like I, of course I understand like the, that casual thing of like, okay, like what are you doing right now? But there are some people who like, it's not just that. They really, they really just think that all they say is,
Starting point is 00:24:22 Hey, what are you doing? Like, what's, like, why are you doing when they're really supposed to be reprimanding? It's one thing to sort of like be having that casual, you know, sort of jokey conversation you have with your pet. But like, I am shocked at the number of people who really, I think, sincerely think they are making a change in their pets lives, whether it's a cat too. It could be a cat too. I saw, you know what? In fact, it's not a dog thing. No, I was at my friend's house recently and the cat kept on jumping on the counter.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And my friend was like, like, you have to stop doing this. this. I don't know why you're doing this. I'm like, the cat can't hear you. The cat doesn't know what you're saying. They do. They do understand. Like I have conversations where he, like he knows he's about to do something bad, like go through the trash can, right? Like take something out of the trash can and start like eating it. So I'll see him look at it and I'll say, what are you doing? And then he'll look back at me and be like, what? And then he'll go towards the trash can. I'm like, really? And then he'll look at me like, what are we really going to do? And then he'll put his head in the trash can. I'm like, are we really going to do that? Do you really want to die right now? Why do you want to die right now? You have so much to look forward to you. You haven't even applied to colleges yet. Why are you dying? And he'll slowly drop it down and walk away. So I think that they do, they do hear, you know.
Starting point is 00:25:34 I think they hear tone. But what I'm saying is, I guess what I'm trying to say is there are a lot of people who don't really change their tone. They, they just continue to talk to the dog as if they, like, as if the dog, like, the dog can hear like the word, the specific words. The dog understands words. I think we all know. I'm telling you, dogs are just underestimated. They know full dictionaries. Or cats.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I'm bringing it out to cats too. Because I swear to God, I did have a cat experience last week. An adorable cat. But the cat kept on jumping on things. And I'm telling you, it's just so funny to me that people just, they just talk to their animals as if it's going to make any sort of change. And again, I'm separating this from like normal pet talk because I know we all talk to our pets. But this is like, I'm like, at a certain point,
Starting point is 00:26:21 like you have to you switch into like I'm the boss of this house right and like there's some people not really I'm like what no one no one with the cat has ever thought that yeah not not we only who the boss of this house is and it is not me okay it has never been me uh so speaking of being the boss of their own home derit uh let's Kyle in because Kyle comes over and um Kyle's like oh my God are there no let me text PK and she's like no they're in freak They're in Fluida right now. I've allowed them to go. Jigar just wasn't himself. It was another point where I had to wear a name tag that said, hello.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Your name is Jiga. I didn't even know who he was. When he left, he said, goodbye, Jigar. I said, who are you? What is that? Did P.K. go? Did P.K. go? Trick question. I already know the answer to that, but I'll pretend like I don't. No, I sent them. I sent them without P.K. even doing. What do you think of that?
Starting point is 00:27:20 I said, I said, Go, run! That unbaked croissant calling you, calling you, son isn't calling you. Run, Zika! Run! And take the neighbor girl with you. Oh, so you said, fine. So, like, or did, like, P.K. sign off on both the kids being able to go. Like, what's the situation? It's like, and DeReed's saying, like, well, the kids, the kids are with my parents in Florida, having the best time, the best time in an elderly community in Florida, as well, just like what kids. want to be close to Disney World without actually going to Disney World. And I should be at ease, and I should be taking care of myself finally. But instead, I'm riddled with anxiety about the kids, about finances,
Starting point is 00:28:04 because I lost $65,000 more in cash in a big box store, and what P.K. is doing. I mean, how many Pringles is eating right now? This is the worst feeling to live with. That was, and that's a feeling that you live with for 24-7. I might be dying here alone. But at least I know that Jiga has discovered something called Bunku. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Here comes one right now. Doreed is making this dog food, and Kyle's just staring at it. And Doreet's like, so, did you speak, did you speak with Mo? Did you speak with Mo about P.K.? Do you have any gossip? You're my girlfriend. You have to prove yourself as a girlfriend, so you have to tell me the gossip that the guy said. And Kyle, of course, the friend that she is is like, no, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:28:54 not do this thing for you. Normally, I don't think it's actually Kyle was under any obligation to do this, but given that Kyle has been reprimanded several times for being a bad girlfriend, I kind of feel like she should have stepped up to the plate in this case. Well, and we see that when they were together a week ago, Doreet said, you know, listen, there's one thing about him saying, P.K., listen, you got to stop. Maybe you can speak to Mo. You know, maybe you can speak to Mo, Kyle, and you can get advice of what he thinks. Like, how do I get through to PK? And both, was like, oh, Kyle, is that something you'd feel comfortable doing? And Kyle's like, of course, of course, of course, of course, no problem. I'll do that. So it does make it a big deal that
Starting point is 00:29:34 Kyle is just like, no, why would I talk to him? I mean, I didn't do that. So Kyle. So she's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Say it again. What? It doesn't advance my story. So why would I talk to Mo? Yeah. So she's like, oh, yeah, okay. Well, I do want to talk to him, but right now I'm going to walk back and forth around this island like I'm actually preparing something in your kitchen because I'm really uncomfortable around you. Did you notice she was doing that? She was doing like when you have people over and you're in your kitchen and you're kind of getting stuff together for your friends. You know, it's like you're talking, but you're like putting the charcutory or doing whatever. Carl's doing that like it's her kitchen. She's so uncomfortable around her eat. I love it.
Starting point is 00:30:14 She was creating kinetic energy around that kitchen island in a way that I did not appreciate. So she's like, no, I do want to talk to him. I do. I know. I mean, I'm like, I mean, I'm, I'm want to know how you, but how do you think he can help? Like, if you still think that, oh, like, I was wondering how you think I could help, which is her way of saying, like, I don't want to do this and I don't understand why I'm doing this. If you can give me any good explanation for why I should be doing this, maybe I'll do it, but I'm not going to do it. That's what she was saying right in that moment. Yeah, and she's like, well, honey, honey, honey, I'm in my wheat sinned. I'm in my wheat sinned. She goes, okay, well, then, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:49 we can maybe figure something out. Well, Kyle, I was serious. Kyle, I don't think you quite grasp how out of control, Piquet is. He's out for blood. And the blood he's out for is very high in sugar content. Very high, Kyle. It's gout infected. It's like that to me. It's the hardest part, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:31:08 The hardest part, Kyle. Seeing potato chips that haven't been touched in the pantry. You know what it's like. The other day, I had to FaceTime, Peket and he had blood coming out of his mouth. And I said, Why do you have so much blood on your mouth? And he said it's actually the red gel kind of stuff They put on an ice cream cake at TCBY.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I had no idea what that meant, but he wanted a lot of it. So she's like making dog food really furiously now. She's like, Goyle, I need your support, Goyle. And Kyle's like, um, I mean, you know, it doesn't even sound like it's being a bad, right? And she's like, Coil, you don't even know him. You think you know, Piquet? Do you know the individual? inside of Piquet.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Do you know the plaque covered soul? That is Piquet, coil. And she's like, I know, but it's like, if I said that about Mo, like, you'd be shocked. Like, what about Mo? She's like, well, yes, but I wouldn't doubt anything that you would tell me, Kyle. She's, well, I am not doubting you,
Starting point is 00:32:08 but Kyle continuing to be the worst girlfriend of all time. The amount that Kyle demands of her girlfriends and yet how reluctant she is to show for Doreet, like this is now like the second season in a row she's acting like this. And to read it's like, I would immediately say, oh my God, Kyle, I want to kill him. Gee, what an asshole.
Starting point is 00:32:26 What a jerk. I can't believe. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I might throw in a scream kind of like a. And, you know, things like that. Well, I'm sorry. I didn't react the way that you wanted me to react, but I don't, I didn't mean it like that. And then she tells us, yeah, I just don't think it's smart to be speaking about your, you know, your ex.
Starting point is 00:32:47 So publicly, I mean, it's going to make your separation and divorce down. the line. It's going to make it more difficult. It's going to... It's so great to hear from the champion of being open and honest once again. It's, you know, she's, I'm really, I'm so glad that she's, like, run off a few people from this show because they weren't being open and honest
Starting point is 00:33:04 enough, you know, and clearly what people need to be is open and honest, unless it's your shit in which case you actually hedge a little bit because it could be bad for something, you know? So I'm just so glad to see Kyle operating, you know, a full open honesty. Yeah, Carl, the lead house.
Starting point is 00:33:20 wife on this show. It's like, oh my God, why are you talking about this on a reality TV show? So, Doreet finally puts that dog food down. It has been so overmixed. It's taking it so long. Yeah. Like, if that was cookie dough, it wouldn't even have a chance. You know, it's just like totally overmixed. So, um, Kyle's like, okay, well, I mean, I guess we'll see what we can say to Mo. I mean, sometimes it takes a friend to say the hard things to make you listen. But just remember, you know, he's coming, hearing only P.K.'s And P.K.'s basically saying that, you know, Moe said that he's hearing the complete opposite
Starting point is 00:33:59 and that Doret's putting him through a really hard time, you know, and making it really hard for him to see the kids. And Doreet's like, ah! The reason why P.K. is seeing this is because he knew it's not going to be a good look if he's not around. I mean, not that it's ever mattered to him, that it's not a good look to weird jocers
Starting point is 00:34:19 that are made out of spandex. the three sizes too low for you. What are you? The wrapping on a potato dockers? Why is Kyle so shitty? She's being so shitty right now. Here she is being, Dorete is saying,
Starting point is 00:34:33 P.K. is making my life hell. He's out of control. And Kyle's like, oh, well, because he's saying you're out of control. So, and Kyle's kind of acting like, maybe we should rethink this because he says you're out of control. So maybe you're the one who's out of control.
Starting point is 00:34:45 That's like the implication here. Or the implication is you're going nuts or whatever. and Kyle is, she's already kind of asserted to some degree that she's being a good friend because she's going to be, it's a good friend confront someone with a hard truth, which is very funny because when that mirror is held up to Kyle, she is not happy about it whatsoever. But like, I just think this is the second in row
Starting point is 00:35:06 where Kyle has really not been a girl's girl about this, she has reluctantly cut off, you know, contact with PK, which I don't even believe that she has. No, I don't know. And, and now like she's just sort of, She still just finds ways to stick up for him in little, just like, if you want to do a privately fine, but when you're with your girlfriend, like, you should just be like all about Team Doreet right now. I firmly believe that and not trying to be like, well, but P.K. says that you're kind of being the crazy one. So, you're, you asked like, why is she doing that?
Starting point is 00:35:40 I think the reason that she's doing that is because she 100% believes what P.K. is saying. I think that she's seen their relationship. And I think that in her opinion, Doreet is crazy. Doreet acted crazy in her relationship with P.K. She drove him away. And you know that whole season when P.K. is like, all I'm trying to do is do something romantic for you, babe. And all you care about is your glam and you'll, you know, when he did the pretty woman thing with, welcome. Berlin. Yeah. That whole season where he was just such a victim because, you know, Doreet only wants the money and that's all she cares about. And I think that Kyle firmly believes that. I think she thinks Doret's an asshole. Doreet's crazy. And now. you know, which is true. P.K. P.K. was right to leave.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And I think that I don't know whether that's a valid opinion or not, because I'm not close enough to that really. Obviously, I just watch it on TV. But I totally 100% agree with you that Kyle is a terrible friend. And like she said last year, she's not really even friends with Doreet. Like she knows Doreet from being a couple and being on the show, but she doesn't even go hiking with Doree. So I think she's like, no, PK's funnier. I like PK. So I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And I think that, you know, I do think that it sounds like Kyle really does think that Doreet is too much because the thing is that Kyle has issues with Doreet in her own relationship with Doree. And so she can't help but side with P.K. on some of these issues. But that being said, if you feel that way, if you do feel like Doreet may be the one who's more at fault for the relationship falling apart, then like don't get so upset when people accuse you of being a bad girlfriend or anything like that. And I mean, admittedly, like Kyle did say, well, I'm really not that good friends with her. But it's like she can't just pick the lane and
Starting point is 00:37:28 stick with it. It's like you either do the honestly guys, I'm friends with Doreet, but we were never really that close, which by the way, it was a lie because obviously they were close. But like, if you don't really, if you think that Dorete is the one who's at fault here. And so then stop pretending like you want to be the girl's girl for her. Yeah. You're right. now caught up with this image that she has where people don't think she's a girl's girl anymore. So now she's got to prove that she's a girl's girl. Yeah. When she's really like not, her heart's not in it. Yeah. Agreed. And I do think it's from Kyle's past relationship with Doreet that she's, she's taking P.K's side. Because from what Kyle said in the past when she had a
Starting point is 00:38:04 problem with Doreet, it's like Doret takes these little things and she's making this huge thing and she won't stop harping on it. And she's trying to like ruin my reputation, Kyle's reputation. You know, she's like trying to ruin me over these stupid little things and making. me look bad and none of it's true. Like she's exaggerating everything. So I think she's taking that and saying, okay, well, she's doing that to PK2, you know. And my opinion is that Kyle and PK are both dicks.
Starting point is 00:38:28 So that's what that's what Doreet has been reacting to. But yeah, I think that Kyle's not really on Doreet's side, but she's, I think you're right. She's just playing it for the audience, you know. And you can't have it both ways, Kyle, unfortunately. So Doread is saying, you know, he doesn't even want to see the kids. It's like he's gone for. a month and then he flies in town without telling everybody and just just like okay well i want the kids
Starting point is 00:38:51 but you know they have a schedule and they have school and they have you know god knows what they have after school i mean they're der reeds kids so you know i'm sure it's like ballet tap jazz piano violin jello you know i'm sure it's nothing to do with like financial EQ financial IQ but you know um she's like you can't just drop in whatever you want Right. So Kyle's asking what the plan is for next steps with this situation. And she's like, well, I've been trying to do mediation for months. And he keeps pushing it and pushing it and pushing it.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Little jabs, little jabs. And Kyle's like, um, so you're saying you won't even do mediation? Have you asked Andy Cohen, can he do it for you? Because I mean, like, you can't like fight that battle alone. And she's like, yes, but, huh, if P.K. and I can't come to some sort of agreement, we're going to have to go to court. And if we go to court, things become public and ugly. and it's war and I don't think P.K. wants that and I know I definitely don't want that at all.
Starting point is 00:39:52 So she is basically saying like, like maybe I need to speak to Mo, which probably, by the way, Doree probably wanted to just go directly to Mo first, but she knows she wouldn't be allowed to do that because Kyle would bite her head off even though Kyle has no problem sending memes and hanging out with PK. So Doree probably had to go through this whole rigmarole of asking Kyle to do it first, knowing Kyle would never do it until Kyle would come back being like, um, could you do it instead? Because I don't want to be in this situation.
Starting point is 00:40:23 So now Dorita's saying that she's floating this idea that maybe I need to be the one to speak to Mo because if there's anything that Mo can say, maybe I actually need to tell Mo the truth and the reality. Which, by the way, this is not going to work either because he's going to be either stoned or he's just going to be focused on his phone and it's going to be bros before hose. So good luck with that.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Yeah. He's just going to be like, uh-huh, okay. Uh-huh. I'll take the shrimp scampy. Okay. Okay. This was fun. I have to go to Coachella now. I got to go. I got to go see a six set with Post Malone and Addison Ray. So can we wrap this up? Yeah. So now Doreet's going to go speak with Mo. Good luck with that. So now we go to Rachel. Guess what Rachel's doing. It's another Rachel and her son, Kai, is seen. Can't wait. She's picking her kid up from camp. She's like, oh, my God, being late is like my worst nightmare.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Because with my mom, I was always like the last kid. I was like always waiting. You know, it's so hard being like a five-year-old in a caftan and flip-flops waiting for your mom to show up. Like statement necklaces are much heavier when you're a child. It was hard. God, I love this backstory on her. Her mom was late. So she said, Kai, Kaias.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Oh, my God. Here I am. I'm here. I'm on time. Kais. Am I the last one here? Oh, my God. I'm like reliving my mom's trauma.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Oh, my God. car. So he gets in the car. She's like, tell me everything. This is like the longest we've gone without talking. Like, how was it? How was camp? He's like, yeah, camp was good. I moisturized every day. Like, every day and night. He's like trying to get that summer
Starting point is 00:42:00 glow up, mom. Yeah, the juggles and the struggle is real. Because, like, I'm a mom. And like, people ask me all the time, like, how do you balance it? Like, how do you? And I'm like, I fucking don't. I don't have a nanny. I'm like hands-on, but I'm also like a CEO. I don't know if you've been to home goods, but I have pillows. They're made out of fur. They're right behind me, actually. You can see
Starting point is 00:42:22 them in my office. Look, faux fur, Rachel Zoe pillows. They're amazing. Like, you know what that style? It's called dead. It's just called dead. Do you know how hard that is to balance? I don't balance. I fall down mentally. Physically, I don't fall down. That's why we're flip-flops. I love flip-flops. What are we talking about? I have a son. His name is Kias. You want to meet him. He moisturized. By the way, his father's a real son of a bitch. Don't say I told you. Kaya, do you moisturize? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Someone called the funeral home. I just died. You know, it's so funny. I almost can't Jordan. And now he grew up to be a moisturizer. I'm like so proud. You know, all I want, all, you know, I always thought like I was going to have one child and I'd be like a girl, a girl.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And then I'd die. And I named the girl bananas because the girl would be bananas that have a girl, that I want a girl, that I have a girl. And then, you know, all I want to do is like dress my daughter and, you know, like, baby cature. and then just like have her moisturize herself. But you know what? We make plans and the universe laughs
Starting point is 00:43:16 and then the universe moisturizes. So here I am. You know what we're going to do? Watch me balance this. Okay, check this out. I'm in a kitchen. There's like bananas in front of me, like literal bananas.
Starting point is 00:43:29 There's Rachel's Ophillis behind me. I've got a son, a son who moisturizes. Now watch this balancing act. Kai. That's called Sky Sky Sky. Oh my God. How does she do it all? Like seriously?
Starting point is 00:43:40 Literally. She's a CEO. She's a CEO. She's a moisturizer and she's got a kid. And she's going to call someone name Sky. Sky. Sky. Sky. How's it in the Hampton Sky? Do they have moisturizer there? What kind of moisturiser they're using? Are you using your moisturizer? Sky. Sky. Sky. Sky. Sky. Sky. The name so nice, I named it twice. Sky, Sky. So he's like, I'm chilling. You know, my friend just got like a razor like bike. So that's really cool.
Starting point is 00:44:06 She goes, it's not an e-bike, is it? Because like literal death. That's like literal death. Okay, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky. I don't want you doing that because you're going to end up in the ground ground. Okay, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky. So Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, why stop it. Sky, Scott, so SkySky, wants a razor. Does that mean we have to call you Sky Razor? Oh, my God, nothing is everything. Seriously, Sky, I die. I die for that. And he's like, yeah, well, it's an e-bike and, like, it's small. It's just, it's just like Kaias is, oh my God, Kaius is small, but his is moisturized, is yours moisturized. If yours isn't moisturized, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't chuckle that. I can't, I can't balance and chocolate it.
Starting point is 00:44:40 She's like, I'm not doing the ER with you again. Like, if you even say ER in this group, Kyle Richards won't shut up, okay? And like she had another face back then. It's so rough to talk about. Like, it's so hard to talk about a period in my life, of my friend's life where she was wearing scrubs every day. I mean, it's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Please don't take me back there, Sky, Sky. You were hospitalized once. You can't be hospitalized again. Okay, please. And so we see pictures of him in the hospital after being on an e-bike. And he's like, Whatever, mom, I'm a man.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Yeah, fuck yeah. I'm a dude. Yeah. Flavor Town. I'm going to Flavortown, Piot. Sock it, Mom. Yeah. Literally, Flavortown.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Like, I die for Flavortown. Like, I never thought I needed to go there, but, like, I'm there. And you know, what they serve there? Bananas, because that's what it is. Don't get me wrong. Having boys is the most exhausting thing ever. But, I mean, I wouldn't trade it for anything, except for, like, maybe an extra thing of moisturizer.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I would do it for that. And then I would give the moisturizer back. I'd be like, I want my boys. I die for my boys. Take this guy, Kai, Kai. Tell Sky Sky not to drive the backpack. Please. Please, please.
Starting point is 00:45:45 It's like, oh, my God. I'd like to exchange this Luberty room for one Sky and one Kai. Please. Thank you very much. Yeah. So, um, she's like, oh my God. I didn't even hear anything past E-bike. What else did he say?
Starting point is 00:46:00 There's, you know what? They see me as they're like real princess. Like, they're so protective. Even if I'm like screaming at them to get their dirty socks off the table or to stop, like, leaving crumbs all over the place because they eat with their mouths open or for those times they come downstairs and like you have even moisturized
Starting point is 00:46:15 they're still like they treat me like their princess they like lift me up that's what they do and like they hold me when I don't even realize I need holding Rachel you always need holding you always look like you're about to fall over she's like she is like a she is like a jenga puzzle
Starting point is 00:46:33 95% the way through like one little brick about one little brick left He has one brick left. So now Jennifer and Sutton are on their way to Kathy Hilton's. So who's coming to Kathy Hilton's party tonight? And it's going to be them and Amanda. And she's like, oh, Amanda, I'm sure that Kathy's going to enjoy Amanda.
Starting point is 00:46:58 You know that she once had a reality show called Beverly Hills Bum Makeovers. I don't know. That's neither here nor there. but Amanda doesn't need a little help. I like Amanda because it's still episode four or five or so. So we're about to turn the corner on her, but for right now I like her. And I think she can be shy and reserved,
Starting point is 00:47:23 but she seems smart and she's younger. I like that. Okay. Sutton needs to start drinking again because she's lying. She's lying. She's lying. Never in the history of Sutton has she ever said she liked someone. And one of the reasons why it's because she's young.
Starting point is 00:47:38 That does not work with Sutton, Sun Brown or Sun's track. She's like, I like that. She's pretty. She's young and pretty, and she has so much potential, and she's in a healthy marriage. I like that about her. I just love that.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Not lying, Sutton. God, I love that. And the way she's saying it with her evil cat eyes, you know, she just gets this mean glint in her eyes. And she's got that glint in her eyes when she's talking. It's like, wow, look at her. So young, got a fresh perspective on things. I just can't wait to talk to Amanda.
Starting point is 00:48:08 and find out all the different ways she's been triggered or traumatized. I cannot wait to be called a gas ladder for the first time. Yay, youth. Yeah, you. Elbow dancing. Elbow dancing. Elbow dancing. Elbow dancing.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Can't wait. Tick, talk. So we go to Kathy Hilton's house, and the staff is there, and Kathy is overseeing everything. And there's, like, all sorts of food. Kathy is, she's like, hi, so I was thinking we could put some bee pong. on all the food. You know me when I get on a kick, a good old bee pollen kick, which and chef David's like, oh yeah, put some bee pollen on there. Fucking bitch, I had a vision and she just destroyed it. But Kathy is like, you know, she's like, this is the super, I'm telling you guys, this is the superfood
Starting point is 00:48:54 of the year. I'm telling you right now. You know, the bees are like, um, hello, we've been talking about honey and pollen for a long ass time. Like our lives are literally built around pollen. And now you're suddenly quite, quote unquote, discovering it. Kathy Hilton. I don't think so, honey. Yeah, she's like the new superfood. Pollin, people, it's pollen. So Carol, who I love, truck driver Carol's like, alright, Kathy. Boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:49:17 She's like, stalking up there. What are we got? What are we thinking, Kath? What do we want to change around? She's like, well, I see these little honey jars, and that's cute, but don't we have blue ribbon to put on them instead of the red ribbon? Could we do that? Could you maybe switch it to blue ribbon?
Starting point is 00:49:33 She's like, got it. Blue ribbon. God damn it. Chef David. Do you want to die? young get out here and change this mother fucking ribbon david what are you working for amateurs you're working for goty fucking hilton anything else doll anything else i don't know you know i really don't like that bees have stingers because it really they really don't come off as soft as you really want
Starting point is 00:49:56 them to it apart right david get down here and pull the stingers off the motherfucking bees david all right this is an amateur hour god damn it for the entire time carol is wearing one of those Ralph Lauren teddy bear sweaters to soften her image. I know. That's what I love about her. So Kathy's like, yeah, well, when I lived in New York, I used to work at the Waldorf. I was a waitress and Rick was a bartender. So I saw the most beautiful parties.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Oh, gosh, it was like art. I want my parties to be an experience, which is why the next time I see red ribbon, someone's going to get hung with it. I know. I like, Kathy's saying that she wants her parties to be. experience. It's like, well, it wasn't an experience with the red ribbon, but then once it turned into blue ribbon, I was like, whoa, transported. Totally different life. So Jennifer and Sutton arrive, and Jennifer's saying, hello, how are you? How are you? How are you? Hello, hello, hello. Nice to meet you.
Starting point is 00:50:56 That is charmed, charm, charmed, I'm sure, charmed. Hello, hello. And everyone's showing up, And I was like, guess what? I got you a candle from the one place you haven't been to this summer. Marrakesh. And, you know, Kathy was like, just like, okay, thanks very much. Marrakesh candle. And we see that Kathy was in Naples, Italy, and Dallas, Texas this summer. Oh, I should have wrapped up my smells like St. Lucia candle.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Oh, sparkling water for Sutton. Look at that. Another fabulous day with Mrs. Brown. This should be fun. So Jennifer's like, let's open as many bottles as we can tonight because maybe Amanda will want some cabanet. And Kathy's like, oh, I'm excited to meet her,
Starting point is 00:51:51 which is a first, probably of anyone ever saying that about Amanda. So Jennifer's like, Well, I met her briefly and she came into my party. And I had a party. Oh, you missed it. Oh, yeah, I heard about. your party and then we see a flashback to the homeliest nude models we've seen on Bravo in quite some
Starting point is 00:52:12 time again this show sometimes could take some notes from Married to Medicine. They really, they know how to do the nude model game. Yes, they've got the good, they've got the good supplier for the strippers. For sure. Yeah. And Kathy's like, I would have been so embarrassed with penises showing.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Well, some people were going to flee. So then Amanda comes and she's like, wow, are you talking about the penis party? Oh, hello. I'm Kathy. Hello. God, you look extremely. Are you on sale? You look extremely tacky.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Extremely tacky. I'm going to say that right. She just looks at her like, oh, you're tacky. I don't know. This girl just reads tacky. Kathy gives Amanda so many nasty looks in the scene. It's hilarious. Kathy's patented like
Starting point is 00:53:02 disapproval look is she'll be like eating something at her plate and then she'll sort of like have her head down but she moves her eyes up to look at you and it's like when Kathy gives you that look it's like oh you've got like five more seconds to prove yourself that you're like worthy of her time and then it's like done forever
Starting point is 00:53:17 like that's literally look from Kathy yeah she does glare she'll be like look at me to send us in Kathy later eyes so the producer asks Amanda so this is your first time meeting Kathy. Have you heard of Kathy? She's like, I mean, she's Kathy fucking Hilton. Yeah, I've heard of her.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Well, have you ever felt like a fish out of water in these fancy Beverly Hills situations? And she's like, no, I feel like I belong in any room I want to be in. Okay, we'll say that when you eventually have a court case. Do you feel like you belong in this courtroom? Yeah. So caviar is served pose for caviar. And it's gluten-free. a gluten-free, there's some gluten-free crackers or whatever, or Bleenies.
Starting point is 00:54:04 And Amanda's like, oh, my God, so I have to be gluten-free. And caviar and cucumber slices is my favorite way. I have caviar every day, actually, guys. Sorry, I actually, like, buy it. Like, I'll go to the store and they'll go to the caviar store, and I'll just, like, buy it. Yeah, I like, have a problem biting my nails. And so I'll actually, like, put caviar under my nails so that when I buy my nails, like I get caviar, like, literally every second of the day, you guys.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I'm totally a caviar person, too. By the way, did I mention I'm gluten-free? Because I am gluten-free. Even though this was just offered to me as a gluten-free thing, I need to stress that I am gluten-free. So I don't know what it's like, sitting with your gluten, but I know what it's like having cucumbers with my cabbage, which I have all the time.
Starting point is 00:54:42 And there's like this weird moment. So she gets her caviar with the cucumbers, and she just talks about it. She's like, yeah, I had to figure out caviar and cucumbers when I realized I was allergic to gluten. And so then so. It was so hard. I tried eating caviar with so many different things.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Popsicles didn't work. tires didn't work it was a whole it's a real R&D process for her but then it goes over it goes over to Sutton and she takes one she goes well I'll just do the normal way
Starting point is 00:55:11 and then it like cuts to Amanda and it goes like like Amanda's like so angry that her view is being viewed as the non-normal the abnormal way Abbey normal So Carol comes over she's like Sorry to interrupt this gab fest But dinner's ready to go ladies so
Starting point is 00:55:28 Head down to the summer dining room. We're going to be ladies today, everybody. Sunday, Sunday, there will be food. Well, I've never stayed at a house this long as crazy. It's been 18 years. And man, it goes, yeah, that's a long time. When I bought Kyle's house, I thought, yeah, it's just like such a great house. I just thought I was going to renovate it and give it what it needed, which is like everything.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Am I right? He's so tacky. But, you know, now that we're getting attached to it, I mean, I've made really beautiful decisions. You know, Amick sent me a black card, and so I covered it in glitter and photographed it and had it blown up to wall size. And now it's like in my hallway. It's like crazy. Black card, that's right. By the way, black cards are gluten-free.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I ate caviar off the one the other day. I did chip a tooth. But luckily, I had the tooth replaced with caviar. Kathy gives when she says that she's made some really beautiful decisions on Kyle's house, Kathy gives her first layer really nasty luck. looks like. It's like, what's you do this? So Sutton goes, I'm starting to notice that Amanda might be the kind of person to
Starting point is 00:56:37 one up or measure up. She's got to make it known. I have that too. I do that to you. Oh, I have that too. That is correct. But also look at the person who's asked. You're kissing as Colin Richards.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Like, that's literally her, her, her, that's her entire like persona is walking to a party being like, where'd you get that? You got that? Where did you get that watch? You have that watch? Oh my God. your watch look your watch i'm getting the watch i'm getting the watch the house that amanda is talking about renovating had kathy hilton stolen floors and erika jane stolen pink neon and lisa vanderpump stolen
Starting point is 00:57:10 a pink thing in the back swing in the back i mean you're right yeah she was like dismantling all of the one-ups that kyle had done it's like a one-upper coming for a one-upper so it's really good yeah and um so then we see a montage of amanda being an asshole so So we now see them walking in 30 minutes earlier. And Jennifer's like, oh, this is cowardice Kathy's right hand woman. And Kathy goes, left hand, right hand. And Amanda goes, I have one of those, yeah, both metaphorically. And I also have like a left hand and the right hand.
Starting point is 00:57:44 So you just say like, I'm a big hand person. Yeah. And then 10 minutes earlier, Jennifer's like, I love eating outside. Yeah, I think we eat most meals outside during the summer in my house. Yeah, both houses. Both of my house. I have two houses and like 10 cars. Sometimes we'll eat outside in a car.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Does that count being outside? Because the car is not in the garage of one of the two houses. It's like a jaguar. No, we'll be in like a Rolls Royce. Yeah, we'll be in a Rolls Royce. It's outside. Or sometimes we'll eat outside in a car in front of a like, I'm going to build another house inside my other house so I can be outside two houses at the same time.
Starting point is 00:58:18 And that house, I'm going to make beautiful choices with that house too, just want to say. Yeah. And so now we come back. And Kathy's like, sometimes when people talk a lot, I just, I tune out. I tune out. But she's not tuning out. She's listening to every little thing. And Amanda's just going on and on.
Starting point is 00:58:36 She's like, yeah, now that Kyle's house is almost done, I'm like, I'm sure we're selling this house. It was just so ugly. Like the memories are traumatic. So, but, you know, like, we're going to get rid of it. But I'm like, I just made this so amazing. Like, we just finished the tennis courts last week. Do you have those?
Starting point is 00:58:49 I do. I have, like, pick a ball. You can play pickle on them too, which is, you can ice skate on them, which is crazy. You can land planes on my tennis courts. It's like a helipad, spaceship landing, tennis court pickleball. Ice skating rink. We invited John McEnroe over and we said, sit in this putty and we made a mold of his butt. That way every chair that's around the tennis court perfectly fits John McNrow.
Starting point is 00:59:13 That way if John McInerow ever gets cloned and all of his clones come to see us walk in tennis, they're very comfortable. So they're all grossed out with her because she's ridiculous and she's bragging to some of the richest people in memory. So they're like, you're gross. And so dinner arrives and Kathy's like, it's organic. So, yeah, I love organic things. Like, I'm allergic to non-organic things. So thanks. So they're, you know, Jennifer's saying,
Starting point is 00:59:43 well, I thought that maybe Kyle would be here for dinner. And Kathy was like, well, she couldn't make it. And, yeah. So Jennifer's like, well, you know, with Kyle, Kyle, obviously because, you know, you bought her house. And I was like, yeah, we're friendly just from like running into each other. I just like run into her a little faster than she runs. Just just saying.
Starting point is 01:00:03 And like, you know, like just like knowing each other from like the purchase and everything, like at the Glenn Center or you know, Glenn. That's where you find Glens, you know. She remember she had Glenn. I got two glens actually. And Jennifer's like, well, I'm, I'm just really interested to see where somebody who's like coming in and like seeing and meeting and like, what did you think about Dorit? Jennifer is just like I want you to trip right now
Starting point is 01:00:29 so I'm going to ask you about every single person in the cast and we're going to we're going to mind you for information and use it against you so I'm going to stick my foot out and wait for you to trip over it and see if you fall what I'm doing so what did you think about Dorit and she's like well
Starting point is 01:00:47 I mean the first time I met her and she's like in total distress so like what am I going to say you know and then we see a flashback to Doret being like, Jika, is Jika anymore? Walking around with the weight of the world on his shoulders saying, I want Florida please
Starting point is 01:01:03 take me to grandma, grandpa, Florida. Do you know what that's like for me? And so that's, that was that lunch that we saw. And then, but then Amanda says, we're back to present. She's like, so I thought about her a lot. And then, like,
Starting point is 01:01:19 when I got to have lunch with her, I was like so happy to talk to her. And like, hear the whole situation and be there for her and I just I've just been thinking about I've just been trying to like manifest something for her like I don't know like a snickers bar I think it's gonna happen soon guys um and then but then she says but I was happy to talk about it with her and I started wondering like it's like her talking to everyone going to affect her divorce in some kind of negative way and then she says that after having lunch with that that lunch that we saw with Bose and Doree she thought she was like oh god BK's such a douchbag like like
Starting point is 01:01:52 Fuck, you know, fuck Peké, team to read. And then she went and had lunch with Kyle. And we knew it because exactly what she said is exactly what Kyle said. Like I'm wondering, is this, or is her talking bad going to affect her divorce? Which is exactly Kyle, right? So then we see Kyle telling her, like, her saying stuff about how he's parenting, that worries me. I mean, last year, she would say things that would come out and he'd get upset. So, like, that makes me nervous.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I mean, like, she accused of being a goddamn alcoholic. which she doesn't say, but that's what Kyle did in her first season. So I think it's so funny that Kyle's like so up her own ass about it. So she's like, oh my God, like she was adding fuel to the fire? What was she doing?
Starting point is 01:02:34 She was, yeah, yeah, she's adding fuel to the fire. Well, last year she did say that he's like a raging alcoholic. And Amanda's like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:02:44 and he didn't like that at all. And we see. Well, who would? I mean, who would? But we see that clip of DRETS saying, he's like a fully blown alcohol. He's going to just like it's going to explode any moment.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Like, get off the volcano because the parochastic flow of alcoholism is coming down the mountainside. And if his alcoholism was a gas tank, it would be full. Full alcoholic. 100% alcoholic. If it was a rotten tomato score, it would be 100% rotten alcoholic. So then we go to the Bravo's Hot Mic podcast with Alpherson. Alex Baskin and P.K. is like, I mean, Derrit's lack of understanding about the sobriety is not her fault. She hasn't invested in it. There's no fully blown alcoholic. You're either an alcoholic or you're not. So it was emotionally difficult for me to watch it. Um, sorry. I like, yeah, he's right. It's like you're alcoholic or not. Like there's no, but like it's, Doreet was just like emphasizing like this is like a, this is a situation. This is like a full blown situation. That's how I took it. And he's going to like kind of discredit her for everything because.
Starting point is 01:03:52 she was, you know, emphasizing something. I don't know. I feel like P.K. was being slippery in that moment. Well, it's also incorrect. I mean, there are different degrees. You've got the Meredith situation on Salt Lake City where it's like, is she or not? Like, is this a thing where it's a problem?
Starting point is 01:04:10 And then you've got the Durinda where it's like, oh, that's a full blown alcohol. Like that is, ooh, that is some committed alcoholism, you know. So, I mean, there are different. And also, PK, just shut up, PK, just shut up. But I do like when they show clips from the Alex Baskin podcast because I love Alex Baskin's face to no matter who he's interviewing. This is his face. I know. He's disgusted by it.
Starting point is 01:04:34 He's just like he smelled a fart. It's like, he's like, can I have a podcast studio that just smells like fart so I can get into character every day? Because he could be interviewing like, I don't know, Bet Midler. And he'd be like. But also what's funny is that like I feel like last season, P.K., his whole thing. was just like, you know, his whole thing was like, I'm an alcoholic. I'm sober now. This is my journey. I'm sober. But like, but he's like really, he does really does not like, I guess, you know, I take it back. Even if you are like, you know, embracing that this is the, the new
Starting point is 01:05:11 chapter in your life and like acknowledging that that you have an issue they have to deal with, it's still not nice to have to hear someone say, well, there's a full blown alcoholic. So, you know, I was about to like be like but you said you were now a call so she's allowed to say it but then I was like no I understand I understand if you're going through it if you're in recovery you don't really want to hear someone just like taking out their forks and knives and like really go into town on it so I will give PK that reluctantly but I also feel like in the case of that podcast he was still kind of like using that as a get out of jail card free like nothing nothing that that that derit says none of her complaints are even. invalid because look she called me a full-blown alcoholic and that's not even a thing that you can say about someone so therefore all this evidence is dismissed and that was the vibe i got off of him and i did not appreciate that hello there this is a two-part recap okay this is the end of part one so thank you so much for listening to this uh just come back a little later for part two watch what crapins would like it's premium sponsors ain't no thing like alison king it's always a party on alison block
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