Watch What Crappens - #3162 RHOSLC S617 Reunion 1 Part Two: Luxe Tag Teams and Lively Lashings

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

This is part 2 of 2The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City begins its reunion festival with allegations of tag teaming, questions about what Lisa does for a living, and exclamations about Todd’s fart kissing. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Everyone, welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, we'll go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. So Andy is like, okay, well, as anyone who's ever watched Whitney tried to do a wordle would say, we're not going to solve this. So, look, just stop talking, all right?

We've got a lot of comments from people about. about your smoky eye in the interview, Lisa. You wanna talk about that? Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. So, I mean, it's like much lighter than everything. Okay, so like, I'm in the glam chair and I'm like not paying attention anything at all. And like, I love my makeup artist.

And she's amazing and kind of sweetened everything to me. And like, you know, she just like messed up, you know? Well, is she here with you today? No. Has she worked with you again? Yes, she's worked with me again. I sent her to a work camping camp And I think she's doing really great.

I've seen a lot of, a lot of workers with smoky eyes. And, I mean, it basically looks like, you know, workers doing a tribute to the Heather gay black eye moment in season two. Love you, girl. Season three or season four. I mean, I don't really remember the seasons. I'm reversed to be hedgeron. So Lisa, so Mary's like, well, why was your eye like that?

She goes, well, I mean, I probably cried in the confessional. And, like, one of my lashes probably came. off and then it probably was one of those exploding lashes that had an ink sack in it, so it exploded all over my eye, and no one noticed because I saw that the rest of my face was so pretty, they were distracted. So it was like an honest mistake. Yeah, you know what? I went for a look and it didn't land. It just didn't land. Sorry. Okay. Well, Beverly from Hill says, Angie, are you trolling Lisa with your Arby's and Codigo partnerships? What is Codigo? Can somebody tell me? I don't know what Cadigo is, but whatever the Arbys is, I'm probably, it's probably not called Cadigo.

Oh, is it, Cadobo maybe? Is it a Codobo partnership? I don't remember what he said. Could it be Cadigo, Codobo? What? Any partnership that you have, are you trolling Lisa? Are you trolling Lisa with your Dingo stole my baby partnership? And she's like, no, not at all.

I've had some really amazing brand opportunities that came to me. He's like, oh, that seemed like a thing. my troll he seems like a fly troll it's not a troll if you get a if you get like a if a fast food company may be trolling wendy's but if arby's comes up and says we want to put you in a commercial you're going to be like sorry i can't do that that's like trolling lisa it's like no give me give me that bag and i will announce that we have the meats okay and by the way that is also a direct message to arby's if you need me to do some spawncon i will because i enjoy my arby's And I'm very upset that the Arby's on Sunset Boulevard has been demolished and the sign is nowhere to be seen.

That was an iconic sign. I mean, not for the sign being gone. I missed that sign too. But that place needed to be demolished. That bubbly meat is disgusting. And Wendy's I'm here for you. Arbys, Mr. Arby, please don't listen to my podcast partner. I will do your SpawnCon.

No, I think you should get an Arby's and I should take a Wendy's. No, even better yet. You know who I'll fight to the death for Wodeburger. That's who I will go to. the map for they're amazing and i will fight for you what a burger call me all the fast food honestly i'm not going to lie i'll do it all give it to me put in my veins yeah rbbs is the only one i find completely revolting but the other ones i'll do so um i like that we're pretending we have a chance yes no one's close in there right let's just uh let's just keep weighing our options here you have

no options uh and he's like well i could see why you would think that But they're not going to come to come to me based off my line. Like, you do French fries? I do French fries. I mean, why wouldn't I do it? Why wouldn't I do it? I am Greek. And Andy says, well, what was your reaction to the Arby's ad?

And Lisa's like, I didn't even see it. You know, I just found out, like, last night. Like, it was so funny. Like, last night I found out because, like, people have all benefited for my wins. So that's exciting for them. You know, well, good for you. You're welcome. Not really, but thank you, though.

I am Greek. Lisa's such a liar I just found out last night. Come on. No, she knows. Wait, we can do brand campaigns because of you. What? So you're the one who's been exploiting my vagina all this time? I mean, if I were a credit card, I'd probably see you for identity theft.

It's like wanting to skin me and be me. Why don't you just try to be me? I mean, why don't you take off one of your eyelashes right now and blame your makeup person? Just be me. Do it, sneaky. Okay, okay, so everything everyone does is on your back? Is that what you're doing? No, but like when you're copying everything I do?

I mean, what do you want me to say? Wow, wow, wow. So, okay, well, do you want to skin me and be me when you did something with a brand that I've been partners with for 30 years? And you've got your own product. Did you want to be NGK with Keras Das? I don't even have any idea what you use. You know what I mean?

Like, I've never even heard it come out of your mouth. Like, I'm the one who said, Kerasas. So it came out of my mouth. So I got it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know, I'm sorry that Kerasas is a bigger company now because of me. You know, you know who I just read a sorry letter to you? Kerasastas. I was like, I'm so sorry that you're richer now. You're welcome. Billy. Lisa, I'm the one who gave you Kerasas for the first time. Yes, she brings bags of Kerasas to every event, just like the pioneers did. Oh, Taktame. Tactame. They're tag taving. I don't know about.

I know about Caristos because of Angie. And I know, I know that's where you got it from. I know where you got it from. I mean, that's the only place it could have come from. It's from a place called Sephora. That's where it's from. That's where I got it from. I don't know what you people.

I love that they're acting like only Angie has known what Caristos is. It could have only come from Angie Gatsanamus. The original Caristos influencer. That's why this show's so funny. It's like, Lisa, you think that your success, everybody's success is off your back? No. because the only reason anybody of us knows what a hair product is is because of Angie. So Angie, everything is off of your back.

That's right. It's also the only show that can go from a fight about a lie about a miscarriage to, I said Caritas first. So welcome back, everybody. Okay, now we're going to have, we've had 100 episodes and a roster of famous fans like Rihanna, Julia Roberts, John Oliver, who crashed and burned when he said Meredith and Marx is wrong about everything a couple weeks ago. And it's been quoted in the halls of Congress. So let's go through the receipts, prove time.

Shut the fuck up with the receipts proof time. I just shut up with that. I've had it. I've had it with it. I've had it. It's done. It's over. Ha.

Ha. Okay. Great clip package. What a journey. I mean, this show has become such a huge part of pop culture and landscape. I mean, it's got to be wild to know that Julia Roberts has opinions about your show that she'll tell me because we're of the same celebrity class, but won't tell you because you are still reality stars. So I have to say, during this big clip that they showed, they were showing all their best moments and their great reads. And almost everyone had one, but Bromwin didn't have one.

I mean, they just had Bronwyn being like, oh, my God, like, I like your dress. And there's a reason. good reads. I mean, Bronwyn has, I'm just, I can't remember. Bronwyn doesn't have any, like, iconic lines from the show, does she? I can't think of it. She had some, I mean, the editor's for could. Really good. Like, she has, she's had some great clapbacks, you know, like, she's had some, I mean, at the very least, they could have had her reading the line about one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel. I mean, like, she's. That wasn't her. That was, we all know, we all know, Bronwyn, Bronwyn can clap back really well. I just can't remember her clapbacks, but. Either could the editors or anyone who makes gifts. What a coincidence.

But I'm sure it's happened. I don't know. Ronwin is, I mean, she had that black credit card moment earlier in the season. That was a good one. Oh, no, that was last year. That was last year. She had that moment with the black credit card at the, at the, what's it called? The Breakfast of Tiffany's party.

She had, remember, she kind of like put. Oh, you know, what about that thing? She also had that great moment at Palm and, in, in, um, in Pump Springs where she, like, she read Heather. Not, not Heather. She read Lisa in the pool. I just don't remember. It's just, it's like, my brain is mush, but it was like a really good moment.

I was in all the trailers. Taste dismissed. Taste us. Tice. Taco. Tacos. Okay, we got to work on this. Well, okay.

We're going to be a talk time. All right. Okay. What a journey. And Mary's like, wow, what a pinch me. moment. Julia Roberts, that's like huge, even though I don't approve of her playing a hooker that time. She thought she wanted to dress. I didn't even know that movie was about being a hooker. So my husband told me.

It's called Inbred Woman. So did you ever think you would make it to season six, Meredith? She's like, no, I thought my maximum would be five years. And maybe that would have been a good idea. Okay. Well, you know Whitney. How do you look back? this experience. Well, when I started this show, I promised myself and I promised Justin that if I was going to do this, I would, um, uh, line. You'd be vulnerable, stupid. Just say you'd be vulnerable. I'd be vulnerable and stupid and dumb. They're stupid. God. And then I would, I would say something that'd be so stupid. And then I would share what's, I said, you know what? When I signed that contract, I looked at that bottle of Hershey syrup, I said, you're coming with me to start him.

Get on the floor. I remember promising Justin that I would stand up for my vagina being exploited, and I did it. I said, I'm going to be real, more real than anyone else has been, because I'm a real housewife, and I'm the realest of the real. Mary, when you started, I feel like you were defined by your unconventional relationship with your grandfather. And what's interesting now is that I would say of everything.

Like it's kind of at the bottom of the paragraph. I mean, no one even cares that you're married to an old man anymore. It turns out Bronwyn's husband's Fupa has taken over. Would you like to thank Bronwyn's husband, Todd? Go ahead. Just say thank you right now, Mary. Go ahead. Well, I don't know.

I kind of felt like I wasn't part of the group. And they didn't include me in the beginning. And I mean, Meredith did. I mean, Meredith did. But like now I just feel like I see good in all of them. I see beauty. and all of them. And I just want them to be able to take accountability and grow and evolve. And I feel like if I could say two words to help, I will. And I just, I kind of fell in love

with him. I don't know. I don't know what's come over me. You told me that I couldn't be on this show anymore until I pretended to be nice to everybody. So I'm doing it. What the fuck do you want for me? I am glad that she, I'm glad that she gave Meredith credit for being the only person nice to her because that's true. And you were a Judas. So Andy's like, well, that's nice. So Lisa, do you consider yourself after being on this over six years? Yeah, I mean, it's basically 12 because, like, Lisa, Lisa performs in, like, dog years. Like, it's amazing.

Like, I just won best decade in television. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. But anyway, yeah, I do, I'm 100% misunderstood by viewers. They just don't get it. Like, they don't, they're not, like, bilingual enough to understand, fabulous. Yeah. Like the trees get me, but like no one else. And like when pink came out with that

album, misunderstood, I was like, oh my God, why is my face not on that album? Because that's me right now. I'm basically pink. Yeah. Yeah. You know what, delusional? That's like a common theme that like people use that don't understand me because I'm not delusional. I'm like very grounded. Like I'm a very hard worker. I love my family. I love my workers who love my family. I love my workers who are making this part of my new home that lets me touch the ground. It's called the floor. Everybody's going to want them, Andy.

Everybody's going to want them. You guys, delusion isn't just a river in Egypt. So, like, think about that a little bit. Yeah. It's also a link and the Adirondacks. Tang-teen. Tang-teen. Okay, guys.

I know you've all been willing. waiting for a monologue, and here it is. Sisterhood, get ready, because here it comes. I feel this rush of, I don't know, affection and pride, and I love that girl so much from season one. That was really, really hard, you know. I knew what they were saying about me, which was, we love Heather Gay. She's so great.

And that girl is gone, and I knew what people were saying, and I took it on the chin. I took it on my old chin, and I got a new chin. So what do you think about that, America? What do you think about it? And I didn't care because it was an opportunity of a lifetime. And even though I was at my lowest physically and emotionally and financially, but not fashionably, I just was going to let the opportunity.

I wasn't going to let it pass me by, just like the opportunity was to not wear a ballerro jacket to a wedding. I was going to make sure that I took it and do whatever I could with it. And even if it meant I'd become a three-time New York Times best-selling author, I would have to do it. And I did. Regardless of people saying I didn't deserve to be there, I rose. I came through. Me, Heather Gay, did the brave thing of taking on a role on real housewives.

Wow, you're really going to win the Pulitzer for that one. Jesus. I like that she was talking about, I mean, like, it's crazy that she's like, you know, I was at such a low point. I know what people were saying about me. And I have to assume that what she's meaning

is that she was like fat shamed or body shamed or whatever. But like also at that time, people loved Heather Gay. They were like, she's great. She's the star. this show. She's so wonderful. She's like in every woman. You know, like we all, she's like a great Greek chorus. So it's like she actually, it makes me actually a little sad if, if like she wasn't able to take away those, those comments that were said about her at that time. Because now actually the audience

has a very large part of the audience has turned against her. And it makes me kind of sad if she doesn't realize how actually she was beloved back then. And like it feels like she's lost her way a little bit. Yeah. Um, yeah. I, I, feel so sad. So Andy's like, okay, well, we're going to leave it here. Here's to 100 more episodes. By the way, how about a thousand more? God, I don't know.

I've got hurt to my butthole. I've got children. Okay, let's take a break. We're back. Okay, ting, ting, ting, ting. I have an announcement. Brittany's joined us on the reunion stage, Britney.

And she's like, Britney's teeth come out. And they're like, I'm so happy to be here, Andy. And he goes, I know you are. She's like, I mean, and I came with my emotional support bear. Look, everyone, I brought a little build a bear. So Andy's like, does it speak? Oh, my God, thank you for asking me. Look, here's the message.

I really do love you, Brittany. And I always will. No matter what happens. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Especially no matter what happens on the show. I just came into another woman.

I think there's a tag team happening on that bear, by the way. I see Paris. I see France. I'm in a hooker's underpants. Yeah. He's such a joker. Print it. Send it to Brittany.

Print it in the bear. So Andy's like, he'll love you no matter what happens on the. show? She's like, well, I don't know what that means. I mean, I guess so. I mean, let's just skip that second part, but that's okay. He does love me. He loves me. He loves me. Okay, let's move on. So this season, we had an Avengers style merging of Bravo multiverse with a historic crossover of below deck. I'm back on everybody. Let's see some glitz from it. So we see flashback to that whole trip. And then Andy's like, okay, first. First of all, what was it like being on another show's turf? And you know, they're all like, what was the other show? Below deck. Not familiar.

Or was that a, is that a, is that some sort of home renovation show about adding decks to your house and then living below that deck? I'm not familiar with this other TV show. Andy, we didn't even know we were on another show. We don't even notice cameras anymore. We don't even notice production crews. Like, we were just on a trip. wink wink okay well are you worried about what the reverse point of view will reveal you

know they're like why would we i'm not watching that show heather's heather and angie the only people watching that show everybody else is that i don't watch that mary's like well i think maybe hether and whitney might have something to worry about especially with the cucumber situation when they're being unchaced and we see flashbacks the stupid cucumber the cucumber thing i'm already, I was done with it when it initially happened because it's like, why do we have to pretend like we don't know who the cucumber belongs to? You know whose luggage that is. You know whose room you're in. Why do we have to go with a stupid game and it's going to come back next season on below deck? I'm not happy about it. So, um, Heather's like, oh, we had a good time in our room.

Oh, wink, how wink, how wink. Don't even see the cameras around me. And Brittany, you sure had fun flirting with the deck and scum. What are you doing that to make Jared Jalitz or one. She's like, um, it's so sad but true. Like, I didn't even know I was flirting until I watched it, guys. And then I was like, oh my gosh. So my daughter called. I just put it on silent.

Um, and I just, can I just say that Heather was probably the biggest flirt? Heather was the biggest flirt. Heather, you were bigger than me. No, you were. I disagree. You were. That's outrageous. You.

What's that's crazy. You were riding on. What? No, I was just saying that like, just because. I grabbed on to the hunky torso of Captain Jason just to make sure I didn't drown. And by falling off the jet ski doesn't mean I'm a flirt. Did I whisper sweet nothings into his ear? Did I remind him that I was a three-time New York Times best-selling novelist?

And my next one was it would be about a toured love affair with a lady and a captain who fuck on a charter. Maybe. But I wasn't flirting with him. Yeah, but you were riding on his back. And she goes, well, that's what you do. That's part of water skiing. That's essential. That's just technique.

Okay, Heather. What is the final word on you and Captain Jason? Well, apparently the world had large bandwidth for what the phrase fucked around means because, like, okay, we hung out like every day. We went to the clubs. We danced. We had sex. His penis went into my vagina.

But like, I don't understand why people think that we actually had some sort of intercourse. He did me from behind. We didn't mean we. We've actually literally fucked around and cut to the clip of Heather being like, oh, God, we've already fucked around. There was nothing there. I don't know how people got that impression. It's crazy. So, you know, this morning I woke up when Captain Jason was inside of me and I said, it was going to be so hilarious watching people think that we had sex today.

Isn't that hilarious, God. Guys, by the way, do I have anything in my teeth that may be left over of his chest hair that I was gnawing on this morning? So you didn't kiss and just, no, and we were very clear about that, Andy. When we were kissing, we were very, very clear about it. I said, I'll ask my help me, okay, thing. I just don't know how people got that impression, Andy. Meredith's like, well, it didn't seem very clear to me. Yeah, even Todd's Fupa raised like a little tent.

It wasn't clear to me either. Tag team, Tag team, Meredith. Good job. Good job. Listen, you guys, you don't think that I would scream from the rooftops if I landed Captain Jason. You don't think, I would yell, despite everything, I'm saying we had long sessions of sex. I had sex with the hot captain from Bravo. Even in a theoretical situation where it sounds like I'm saying I didn't have sex, trust that I had sex with him.

You don't think I would yell that out loud? You did, Heather. You went on national TV and insinue it and basically said, you front of you. walked around with Captain Jason. Yes, you did. You did scream it from the rooftops. So it was just unfortunately for you, stolen valor. It was like stolen, stolen dick value, Valor. All right. Well, hashtag stolen valor says on Twitter, Bronwyn, just because the case is sealed, doesn't mean a person can't talk about it. You just don't want to. And we know that you can be liberal with the truth. So what do you say to that, Bronwyn?

I like that. We know that you can be liberal with the truth. She's like, um, well, well, So, okay, okay, I just want to remind everyone that I have long hair now. Okay, so, look, the case being sealed does not mean that I'm part from talking about it if I was the one who asked for it to be sealed, but I was not the one who asked for it to be sealed. And so I've learned with my husband and my daughter that I have to be very careful about how I bring other people's business into this group. So I will not talk about their sealed portion of this case because I've been requested, even though it's not required. but it wasn't me who required the sealing of the case of the Ziploc sealed things in. You can take your sandwiches. They'll still be fresh two days later.

And that's all I'm saying about it. And I think that that was very forthright. That was very forthright. That was really good. So outside of the sealed case and the eviction were there other cases filed against you? Oh, good question. Good question. Okay.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. There was something that happened in my workplace and the case was fully dismissed against the person it was about, who wasn't me? And it was years ago. And I just, listen, Andy, I just got my citizenship this year. You think America's just letting anyone in here? I mean, we all know. Okay, you could not get into America if you had a problem with the law, unless I was running for the

presidency, of course. I mean, I love America. It was sealed. It was sealed. Commercials. Here comes one right now. Whisper, whisper, whisper, Meredith. Hi, Meredith, whisper. Okay. They weren't getting a reaction out of you until now, but now I'm done whisper, Meredith. And then Andy's like, um, hey, Meredith, have you heard about other lawsuits or charges? What are you guys whispering over there? Well, I haven't tracked any of them. Okay, I heard there were multiple, multiple situations, but I didn't pay that much attention. I'm sorry to say, okay, but it seemed like you were just whispering right now during this whole thing. And I'm wondering would you like to share

with the class? Well, it wasn't about. Bronwyn. Actually, it was something that needed to be noted in case we need to go back there at some point in time. So it was more like I put a sticky note on Lisa's forehead in the form of my whisper. That's when I did. She's my tag team partner. Is this some sort of a tag team thing like Jason did with my boobs? Because I'm just saying this seems like a tag team thing. Would you say it's a tag team thing? No, no. Do we look like we're running around the set playing tag? I don't think so. We don't need to tag. We don't need to. Yeah, well, just saying that we might need to go back to you, I mean, that seemed a little tag teamy to me.

It seemed like that to me. You said I was tag teaming. We, we as a group may need to go back to the point. You said tag teaming. I just wanted to say it sounds like what's good for the goose might be good for the gander, even though that's usually a phrase that refers to men and women. But whatever, who cares? This is Salt Lake City. I'll say whatever I want to.

I fuck the gander. I fuck the gander. Who is saying I fuck the gander? That is insane. You know, I'm sick of these allegations and I'm going to go back to my DJ set, starting with a song, whoop, there it is. Whoop, there it is. Hey, that's my tag team. Oh, I didn't realize.

That was their name. I mean, you know what? It seems like you recruited a whole team. So why are you allowed to have a whole team, but we're not allowed to have a tag team? What's that about? I'm not supposed to speak to my friends, I guess. Well, well, okay. Well, we know, I'm not supposed to speak or feel.

know that already nobody wants Meredith Marks to have a feeling, so I guess I'll just sit over here and feel nothing. Okay. Hey, everyone, if someone wants to shove me out into the cold, that's fine because I apparently don't feel anything anyway, and if I wanted to do, I wouldn't be allowed to. So sure, send me off to Antarctica, and I'll do some scientific discoveries for you, because apparently I'm not allowed to feel anything. Yeah, you should. Don't use your voice, Meredith. They don't like it when you use your voice. Oh, apparently I'm not allowed to use my voice. Apparently, I could have made a deal with Ursula, and it would have been fine. There would be no movie because I would lose my voice, and no one would care about what would happen next.

And Heather goes, don't worry. She won't use her voice. Dun, Dun, Dun. Heather, you don't have to do the Dun Dun Dun, but you take care of it in post. I didn't even do the Dun Dun Dun Dun. I don't know why people are accusing me of fucking Jason and the Dun Dun Dun Duns. That is crazy. Had we're back, my son lost his tooth.

No one cares. Nobody cares. The tooth will set you free. Okay, welcome back. I'm Andy Cohen and here with the glorious real housewives of Salt Lake City. Do you all have your teeth or at least some veneers in? Great. I don't want to cry again.

All right, Lisa, once and for all, did you leak information about Bronwyn's pass to the breast? That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. That's so stupid. That's so ridiculous. I mean, whatever. Our. Okay. Well, I don't.

I'm not, I'm not equal. What? No. No. I was tag teaming by saying the last syllable of my tag team partner's words. Excuse me. Am I not allowed to say syllables anymore? Stop using your voice.

Stop using your voice. They hate it. Okay, well, I don't think that Lisa leaked. I don't think she leaked it because leak is a very specific word, but I do think. that she does make sure that the stories get traction about us when we fight with her. That's a lie. That's a lie.

Okay, there's like some thumb stuff that comes up like on Twitter. Like, I can read, okay? I was an early reader. So that makes me really good at reading tweets. So if people were wondering, can Lisa read tweets? The truth is like I, if Twitter had been around like, you know, years ago, I would have been able to read tweets before you guys. So I'm like an early reader.

Yeah. I started reading it like three. Yeah, like I started reading it three and a half years old. It was crazy. Like I was reading in the womb. I read my mom's belly button. Someday you're going to be able to read statements that are about 140 characters. And I was like, wow, I can do that because I'm three and a half years old and I can read already.

Just bring the technology. My mother's belly button was a retweet button. I kept kicking it. I'm sorry. You know what? I'm sorry. Do you know what it's like to wait decades for technology to catch up with your reading skills? It's so hard.

But, you know, the thing that was troubling for me is that I was on Twitter before we went on the trip and it wasn't really everywhere. And I know we all got tagged in it. But then while we were on the boat, somebody from the boat spoke to a media outlet and said, Bronman was late because of those Twitter allegations. And you know what? That could have been somebody on the boat who knew I was late because of that. And that's what really pushed the story huge was that I came supposedly late to the gas trip because of all of this. And who did that from the boat?

Who did that from the boat? that could have been anybody. That could have been production. And you did come to the boat late because of those allegations. You said it yourself. So who cares? Like the allegations were out there. And you just said they were already on Twitter.

Don't come to the boat late next time because you saw what happened when Lisa didn't even go to the camping trip. And you also did tell your husband Lisa had something to do with those rumors. You saw it. We saw it on camera. You did it on camera. We saw it on the television. Ronwin. Stop lying.

Yeah. She didn't use it of like of the leaks. Sorry to break it to you, but no one was thinking about you or what was going on with you. I was having the time of my la... Taco. You're really into the taco thing, Meredith. I'm so hungry. I'm sorry.

What am I not allowed to have a taco? I guess we all know. Meredith's Marks. Isn't allowed to have an opinion or a taco. Okay. Instead of you, quiet, and starving to death, is my stomach allowed to speak? It's growling right now. I'll be quiet stomach, you're not allowed to feel things.

Okay, okay. Okay, well, the only person I argued with on the boat was really you and Brittany, and I don't think it was Brittany. I don't think she's smart enough to understand how to use a telephone. Cut to Britney, like combing her hair with the telephone. Somewhere that's free. You think I'm doing all this crazy stuff while I'm running a lounge and being a mom? Do you know how hard it is being a mom with the lounge?

It's like so difficult. I'm running a lounge. Do you know, someone's got a fluff pillows. I'm just a mother. I'm a mother, a mother with a lounge. I don't have time for this. And I was like, it's not crazy. It's the click of a button.

Well, you would know. And Lisa's like, it is crazy. And I don't have an arsenal on anyone. I don't give a fuck. Like, whatever. I'm a mother with a lounge. Oh, really? Then why do you have six attorneys, Lisa?

No, why do you have cybersecurity if you're not leaking things? Why would you? Why do you go the distance, Lisa? Lisa, why do you go the distance if you're not leaking things to page six? Because I love Hercules. That's why. Okay? I'm sorry. Okay? When you've got a lot of lounges, you need a lot of lawyers. You need to have lawyers to have lounges, right? Isn't that what Karen Huger says? You have to, in order to lose lawyers, you've got to lose lounges. Right? Am I doing it right? You know what? Like, this is so ridiculous. Do you guys even know what businesses I do?

Because I'm like federally regulated. There. I'm federally regulated. The Department of Interior Loungees checks my lounges every single day. You know what? They come and they grade my lounge. Like it gets in between an A, B, or C. That's it.

It's federally regulated, okay? I have to send a report to- So I'm sorry you guys can't deal with it. Yeah. It's very scary. I have to send a report to Vince McMahon every single week making sure that my lounge is clean. Otherwise, I get barred

which is okay, because I actually also have bars. So when you get barred in the lounge industry, you just turn your lounge into a bar. It works out actually pretty well. I don't even understand your business, Lisa Barlow. What is Lux Marketing? And how do you make money? I just don't understand it. I mean, you're

an event planner or you're an event promoter. What are you? What? You don't know what Lisa does now. I mean, come on, Heather. Okay. Let me break it down for you the way we break down a high top when a big party comes in. Okay. Are you ready to listen? Are you ready to listen? Are you ready to listen? Are you ready to listen? What do you even do? I don't even understand. I mean, what do parties need plans? That doesn't even make any sense. If you're right to let's on, we incubate brands, okay, until they become full set chickens. And I own companies. And I

incubate the companies. And then I create a company with Bella twins. Yeah, the Bella twins. It's called NNB, which stands for not a Bella, because I'm not a Bella, but it's my company. And then we sold it, we sold it like two or three years ago to like the Bella Triplets. Haven't heard of them? Well, that's too bad because we know about them

and we sold it to them. Yeah, it used to be the Bella Triplets, but then I killed one to make the business stronger and then we sold the business and it exited beautifully. Sorry, Triplett. Sorry, you just didn't make it into the branding. But I'm a brilliant brander. That's what I do, Heather. What do you do, Heather? She's like, um, I mean, look at my face.

It says everything that I do. I'm a walking resume. What do you do? It's like, Bella Twins, that's all. And Meredith's like, I was at multiple events from that. Three actually, but one, we pretend it never happened. We got rid of that one. Well, I went to an event for that, but I heard you're not friends with any of them anymore.

Oh, okay. So now you do know what she does, but the Bella twins hate her. Oh, okay, so we're on to that. God forbid. She's like, no, I'm still talking. Yeah, you know what? Are you going to listen? Are you going to tell you the same thing I told the triplet.

before she was axed. Are you going to listen? No? Okay, bye. Goodbye. Good luck. Go see if you can join Hansen or something because you're done here. I just Lisa gets so mad. She's like, have you been to events with Daniel Radcliffe and the Bella twins? And now you don't know what the fuck it is. Get out of here. Like, I invited you to my Daniel Radcliffe event. Do you understand? You met Harry Potter through me and you're going to pretend you don't know what I'm doing for a living? whatever. Shut up, Heather. And she's like, well, I mean, I know that you sold tequila. Maybe you did that. And she's like, oh, really? Are you really that disgusting that you're going to question, have I make my money when you've been invited to events with Harry Potter? Like, seriously? How could you do that? And Bronwyn's like, why is it disgusting to ask her question?

Mm-hmm. Says Bronwyn, who every time someone asks her question. Well, I actually think that like, for you, you to ask that question is like incredibly rude because like I'm here and I'm like dealing I've got my head and a foopa every single night and you don't even understand that I can't believe you're even asking me anything when we have a truce and I have it sealed and it's sealed and I'm a lawyer and so I'm oh taught cheating but he didn't she I got the necklace I never said I got the necklace I did say I got the neckl lo lo lo lo loo loo loo I'm with some fucking the head full of bullshit explodes all over the stage and by the way you're tag teaming right now

what you say oh by the way you're tag teaming right right now um yeah so you know that hather's like but does anyone know does anyone know what lux marketing does anyone know and like to be fair lisa barlow has been documented on bravo many years ago marketing because lily galetschi called up lisa barlow and asked lisa barlow to help her with her bathing suits and that's on camera and that clip is out there i've seen it with my eyes So Lisa has been working. She does work. So do you ever see that clip?

Yes, of course. We recap that clip. Just want to make sure. Just want to. Yes, yes. Yes. I'm with you. I just don't want to.

I'm just being quiet because I don't want to go too hard standing for Lisa's business when I'm, honestly, I don't know. I looked it up. I can't tell. Fresh Wolf, the domain is for sale. You know, that stuff is true. I don't really know what she. I mean, she's a, she explains it.

now and I kind of get it better. But I just the whole, I don't want to stand it for someone's business on Housewives because we've seen how that goes before. So I've just, I don't want to do that. But I will say, you know, Heather, who's like, I'm all about women empowerment, women business. Like her suggesting that Lisa just is getting money fraudulently from, what is she suggesting? I guess I'm trying to figure out what's saying like you like we never know where it was damn with you. Like she called her a risky friend earlier. Like, who are you? What are you? I don't get it. Like I think she's trying to insinuate that she's a crook. She's got all these things out against her of people that she owes money to and Lisa's just

a big fraud and her business is bullshit. Nobody even knows what she does. And she's got some Jen Shaw type fraud going on. I think is what Heather's insinuating. So, um, I don't know. So, but I do like that she asked the question because it leads to a really good, uh, Lisa moment. So Lisa's like, I don't know you shed. You know what? I don't know you shit. And you know what, Andy, was that kind and friendly or was that a full accurate? Was it an accusation? Annie was an accusation? Um, well, uh, well, it was not an accusation. It was a question. It was not, it was not a question. It was not a question. It was an attack. Yeah, it was an attack. It was an attack. And you know what? I do big things with big people. That's it. Like, I would even do things with Todd because he's so big. And you know what? Guess what? I'm a big fucking deal. And what do you do? What do you do? What do you do? What do you do? Because Todd?

God says you just spend his money like he sat there in Palm Springs and said she's spending my money on a play. So what about that? And Bronwyn just stays quiet because that's true. Like Bronwyn coming for someone about their job is hilarious. Like, okay, thanks for the pride flag. The pride flag I got in the mail. But like you're not allowed to be having this conversation until you get a fucking job. So.

And just to circle back, the reason why I had to brought up like what Lisa does for work is because when they were accusing Lisa of leaking the stuff to the media, then Lisa's like, no, I've got to. much stuff going on. Okay, I've got like jobs. I've got stuff to do. At which point then the discussion just pivots away from that to like, okay, well, then let's see the lie. And this, they're just just just trying to, they just always want to debunk Lisa at all times. And the reason why is because Lisa is really easy to debunk. It's, you know, she makes it. Because Lisa, Lisa is one of those, like even if she's telling the truth, even when she is telling the truth, it sounds like she's not because she's just gets so defensive. I think she did a pretty good job at this reunion of,

she did a better job than usual, I think, because usually she's just flying off the handle. And this time, I think she kind of had a handle on, like, at least answering people's questions, kind of, while she was fighting back. So she's like, yeah, that was an attack. And Todd said that about you.

So it shuts a problem one up. And then Andy's like, well, Heather, we saw a lot of posts on social media saying you were gaslighting Lisa, calling you your friend one minute and then accusing her of being the source and everything the next minute. And She goes, yes, but what I was saying is that she is my friend and she is the source. She's my sister and my daughter.

So Andy's like, okay, well, what do you attribute the shift in your point of view to honor? It's like, look, I'm not friends with people who are perfect. I'm not friends with people that are actually even moral representations of what I aspire to. I'm friends with people who I'm friends with, and she's my friend. And she's been my friend. And we have history. So now Heather's gets to pull out the whole, like, essentially, a ride or die. That's what this card is essentially

saying. Like, despite everything she is to me, she still matters to me, right? Like, it's, like, you can't attack me. And she goes, she's absolutely still my friend. She's not a good friend, but she's an important friend, which, what does that mean? Like, she's not a good, what does it mean to be an important friend, but not a good friend? Like, it doesn't make any

sense. Because, ah, Heather's a terrible fucking friend. She is a terrible friend. And for her to sit up here and, like, say what friendship is. Like, oh, she's a horrible friend. I came for all season. And I just insinuated that her business is fake and that everything she does is fault and that she's a criminal. But it's because I love her, Andy. I love her.

And I'm a good friend to people. What are you to? You're not a good friend to fucking anybody. You are not a good friend of fucking anybody up there except possibly Whitney because she does everything that you say. But everyone else up there, you've completely fucked over. Whatever. I'm over these false accusations and these labels. I am not the source.

I am not the source. So then Andy's like, well, Angie, you've known Lisa for a long time. What do you think? So Angie is like, time for the prop. So she pulls out the scroll that Meredith gave her for her anniversary. And she's like, all right, you asked, and I have known Lisa. And I thought she was my friend. And then I found out that she was trolling me, or should I say, scrolling me, get it.

It's a pun because I'm holding a scroll. Yeah. And it's the scroll that Meredith gave her as a gift for her. And I love that she's like pulling out the scroll to use as a weapon against Meredith's friend. Dun, done, done. Yeah, she was trolling me. And then she says she's not the source. But if you open that and you can pass it down and you open your phone, the person trolling me has the same phone number that Lisa has.

And Lisa just blinks in that guilty way. She's like, um, um, um, oh yeah. What do you want to talk about the pictures you have on your phone, man? You want to talk about the pictures you have on your phone? And it's a cliffhanger. We'll have to see what's on that scroll. I mean, in the history of big reveals like this on reunions, it turns out like, it'll have like the same area code and that's it.

And Andy would be like, but this is just the same is Utah area code. But it could be her. You just look. I believe it's, I believe that she totally caught Lisa trolling here. Like the way they caught Jax when they did like a reverse lookup or whatever on Twitter and found Jax's number trolling people. Yeah. I think that there, I think the.

I'll probably prove that it was Lisa. That's my guess. That will be quite fascinating. But I'm just saying I'm so used to a lot of these cliffhanger reveals revealing absolutely nothing. So I'm seeing myself in check. So I'm still the messiest when it comes to this. I mean, you had Angie Harrington, who had all those burners and was trolling people. And her husband was the account that was coming for Jen Sean.

We found all that stuff out in that season, and which I'm sure Heather had nothing to do with at all. So I always think this is funny when they come at each other with burner accounts. as if they don't all have armies of burner accounts. Yeah. But still, yeah, I think Lisa's guilty on that one. My guess is Lisa's guilty. But yeah, what a fun time. What a bunch of looney tunes is this show.

My gosh, even the ones that make me crazy. I'm just so happy. Like Heather makes me fucking crazy at this point, but I'm so happy she's on the show because they're so ridiculous. It makes the whole season of Heather worth it just to see that dress, honestly. Well, she don't, I mean, you know,

we get mad at her for producing. And I do get mad at her for producing. producing but i also think that she's so smart and you know she she really she does know how to keep it keep it moving you know well we can get mad at her with for producing but then not also thank her for producing a good show because we know if we're first sitting her saying the show is so good and then we're like mad that she's producing i think it's just you know what i think ultimately when people get mad at heather for producing it's because she doesn't she doesn't always kill it like there are times where like what stop producing in this moment like let this be an authentic moment like

in the season finale, there was a really nice moment that was happening with Meredith and Heather kind of just took a sledgehammer to it. And it just felt like, why? Like, can you like just like, it doesn't have to be like this, you know? Yeah, there's one argument that's like, well, someone needs that person who's moving the show along and gossiping about everybody and being a bad friend to everybody just to keep the show running. I don't think that that person is needed. I don't think that that's true about housewives. I think that person is a disruptor. And sometimes that can be fun. You know, if someone takes a piece of gossip and it becomes a fight. But I don't think housewives need to be built on constant attacks. And I think that that's actually what killed the season, you know,

is just them constantly attacking the people that they don't like. It's bad weather. And it's just fucking obnoxious. Like you've hired a bunch of crazy people. Just let them be crazy. Like we don't all need, Heather needs to have enough confidence in the cast that they can do things themselves without her trying to ruin their lives every season and then calling herself a good friend. This is the unfortunate trajectory that all these Housewives shows or all reality shows seem to go on, which is that when they find success, you have the great seasons. But inevitably, people become self-aware of the success. And rather than just continuing to be themselves, they just try to replicate what worked in the

past because they feel like they know what the audience wants. And then this is where we get into situations like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, where it's just kind of Dolesville. I'm not saying this show is in danger of that, but I also know, like, Real House of Potomac had that dreadful, was it season eight? Like, even the best shows can have precipitous plummet if people go from sharing their lives to presenting what they think will be entertaining for us and closing themselves off. They're still pretty raw on this show, but I feel like Heather is in danger of poisoning the situation. I think you have to be really, really careful. you have to follow the Roney path, which it was ultimately, like, they knew what their job was,

which was just to be themselves and say, fuck it, we're going to throw ourselves into it. And let's keep any self-production. Let's just keep that to the side. We're flagging it now, which means there's still time to do something about it. Yeah. Well, it's been good so far. I'm excited to see where the rest of the season reunions go. and we've got two more of them, so we'll see you for the next one, everybody.

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