Watch What Crappens - #3207 RHOBH S15E08 Part Two: Can’t Have Your Cake and Dorit It Too

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

This is part 2 of a 2-part recapTensions mount between Dorit and Amanda, but also Dorit and Kyle as they kick off a lengthy argument on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. But it’s Rachel who wind...s up crying. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening,, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens.Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, we'll go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. That's that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. So, you're judged.
Starting point is 00:00:36 And you shouldn't be breaking. Like, oh, my God, it's going to come back and bite you in the oars. Yeah, but you know what? Fuck you. Yeah, that's what I say. Yes. Fuck you. That's great.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Wait, me, what I do? Wait, what did I do? No, it's just repeating what you said. Oh, okay, because I was about to break. And I don't do that awkward. I'm vulnerable. I'm really vulnerable at this, like, little table out by the sidewalk. It's like a lot.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Well, then why are we worried about the judgment? God forbid. You actually don't hold together everything every fucking two seconds. Yes, sir, yes. You don't have to, you don't have to tell me. I know that. I live it. It's what I always allel.
Starting point is 00:01:14 You know, it's hard enough to go through a separation, divorce, grief, and hold it together, and I had to put on a brave face for my daughter while I grieved for her father. That's right, Amanda. My card is coming soon. You just wait. Talk about your child one more time. I'm going to bring out the big guns.
Starting point is 00:01:28 But for me, a lot of the outlet was having my friends who would not judge me, who allowed me to cry, who allowed me to scream, and who also gave me the grace to be able to do it in a way that it was comfortable for me. So Kyle's like, it's just like one step forward, two steps back.
Starting point is 00:01:42 It's like, right now, like I just can't deal. Like, God. Am I DJ Scott? now. Am I right, guys? So she's saying, like, I'm trying to help my friend, and she's in a negative place, and I just can't do this with Tariot. Like, if she's going to act like this, and I just can't do it, I need to see, I need to see her change.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And so now the waiters come over with the birthday cakes, because let's not forget, this is a double birthday party for Erica and Doree. So, um, Jennifer's like, oh, wait, wait, wait, put it back in the kitchen. Put it back in the kitchen. The girls aren't here yet. Because I was like, no, I want to eat. She's like, oh, okay, well, I'll get her. This I think was, this was so mean.
Starting point is 00:02:22 See, this is Doreet's birthday. And Kyle's like, no, she basically saying she went outside to have a moment. So she doesn't get to be there for her own cake to be like for the candles come out. Like I just thought that was like, this is why Kyle's not a girl's girl, you know? Look, she like would not make, she would not let the cakes wait for the birthday girl to come back. Yeah. And so Erica's like, well, I hated this night, to be honest. It was annoying. I was looking cute. So outside, Jennifer comes and she's like, well, hello, it's me, your human tortilla warmer. Listen, this is probably the wrong time. But Kyle brought out the cakes and she wants you to come blow out your cake.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And Rachel's like, yeah, no. I mean, I love everybody at the table, but no. I mean, cake's disgusting anyway. Who does that? You know what I'm doing? Today I'm breaking and I'm saying fuck you cake. There, I said it. Yeah. It's like I'm having, I'm already having my own cake. It's a cake of vulnerability because I'm like so vulnerable right now and I'm like breaking in the cake. I'm a cake breaker. So meanwhile, inside they just sing without Doreet in there. And then everybody leaves. Everybody starts leaving. And Rachel's still crying outside. She's like, I wanted a hot girl summer. And I'm not getting it. Well, we learned later what this really means is I decided to roll the dice and not spend the summer in the Hamptons or in Europe. I decided to stay here in L.A., and it's not working out very well for me. The show her in Hamptons or... I know. I love when she expands on her drama. She's like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I'm not in the Hamptons right now. It's really hard. Eating at like some restaurant in the valley and, like, crying by the valet stand, like, this is not hot girl summer for me. Like, where is it grubbing? So now we go to Doreet's house. It's another day. And she is working on her book and she has her laptop on the sofa in front of her. This is how we know she's not really writing.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Because who writes their book by leaning over on their laptop on the sofa? She's like, here's the story of my life. One time I came into the kitchen and there were two fewer prinkles than what I had remembered. And I thought, gee, that's not going to be a problem. But later on, I would realize it was a harbinger. as anything terrible happening in my marriage. It was very, like, improv,
Starting point is 00:04:46 bad improv scene of somebody trying to write. She's just, like, sitting with her computer doing this with her hands. It's like, dear, dear people listening, Reader,
Starting point is 00:04:55 dear reader, it's me, Doreet, or as you might know me, Duit! I remember as a little girl in Francistan, thinking about all the dreams I had
Starting point is 00:05:07 of coming to a miracle land. And... I was like, Doreet, just be quiet. You ain't write this book. It was like sucks in the city. She's like, I couldn't help but wonder.
Starting point is 00:05:17 When we go through a divorce, are we divorcing the man or the man divorcing us? Like, that's not very deep thought to me. No, but think about it. I knew a man named Mr. Big. I tried to make him Mr. Les Big, but he wouldn't let go of the jeeps. Now we just call him Mr. Diabetes. He broke up with me on a postage, a postage diabetes. It was very terrible.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So when we go to Bo's house and her daughter is getting her driver's license or she just got it. So they're all wearing tea. The family is there and family and friends. They've all got T-shirts with a driver's license on it. And they're like, oh my God, you guess what? You get a T-shirt and you also get a Mazzarotti. So she's gotten her first car for her kid, $110,000. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Lail sounds like a great kid. Lail is probably one of the best kids on this show right now, let's be honest. But we start our children off with a Honda Civic, okay? What is going on with this Maserati? Okay, this $110,000 Maserati. You need the equivalent of a bumper car for your child's first car. I don't care how responsible your child is that car needs to be able to be wrecked. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:38 $110,000. Oh, my. My God. Good luck getting an oil change on that thing. The first time she makes it right turn on to Melrose, there is going to be a ding and a dent. I'm going to say that right now. Your oil change is going to cost you an arm and a leg literally. Literally. Literally.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Okay. Speaking of legs, Amanda is at home on a Pilates machine and her kids keep wandering up to her. She's like, hi, sweet thing. Hi, I'm doing. Hi, Canaan. Hi, I'm doing mom is doing Pilates. I was like, oh my God, get me away from this lady right. now. And then we show up at a horror movie set. I'm not really sure what this place is supposed to be, but it's a wedding venue for Kyle's kid. Yikes. It's what are you guys doing? I would not want to go there. It looks scary. It's felt very rustic. In fact, Kyle says, oh my God, this is super rustic. So Kyle and Jan, who's like her friend or assistant, come up. Her friend, Chloe, if you will.
Starting point is 00:07:36 friend ploy to meet this lady chloe who is like a creative director and there's Nicole who's a wedding planner and chloe's like welcome it's a special place we're just saying you don't even feel like you're in l.a at all I mean who wants to be in l.A. right just full of disgusting fake stupid people clinging on to their childhood successes of being on stupid shows like little house in the prairie am I right and car's like um uh okay that's what she loves about it though huh. Well, the scenery is beautiful. It's like at the top of the hills. I mean, it's very gorgeous around there. But the actual place is like this rustic kind of cabin thing. And then they go inside and there's just like scarves thrown over things as decorate. You know, like hippie scarves thrown over. What is this place? How could you be looking at the China you were looking at and then having this be the wedding place? This looks like a Manson. Speaking of Colts, this looks like a Manson family set. Like don't. get out, run. Yeah. So Kyle's like, well, she was going to get married in Aspen, but it was like too complicated for
Starting point is 00:08:41 multiple of reasons. Basically, Bravo was like, we're not going to pay to move everyone there to film the wedding. So she wanted something with this vibe. So, you know, rustic and ranch vibes kind of like, I guess what's the word I would use, poor, poor vibes. So like that you did a really good job with that. And Chloe's like, we have alpacas. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Multiple animals shitting. That's great. That's great for a wedding. Yeah. Poop and alpacas. Don't they spit at you too? Although I love an alpaca. I'll say I do love an alpaca, but I love more a home goods alpaca, you know, like the stuffed ones or the statue ones or the lamps, the lamp.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I think the real ones, they spit at you or something. They do. I have a picture of one spitting in my friend Jane. Basically, I went with Michelle Collins. Michelle Collins and I and Jane. We went up to my friend's place and my friend had. had like a little alpaca farm. And so I took a picture with the alpaca.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And then Michelle took a picture with the alpaca. I'm like, Jane, take a picture of the alpaca. And Jane was like, I don't want to take a picture of the alpaca. Like, go take a picture. So Jane's like, okay, fine. So Jane went up to the alpaca. And just as I snapped at the picture of the alpaca spat in her face and you literally see her hair being blown back. It was like I got the exact shot of Jane getting spat on by the alpaca in her face.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Well, may Kyle be so. lucky to get that picture at this wedding. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappence commercial. So they're kind of looking at it and the daughter comes, Alexia comes. Like, hey, mom, that's a really cool little play. And they're making fun of her for sending her invites out via paperless post. And Kyle's like, oh my God, Kathy won't even know what that is.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I'm like, she's not even going to see the invitation. Yeah, that's crazy. So I guess he walks up. Bravo's favorite. What's the equivalent of like a photo bomber, but like with TV shows, TV bomber? Teeth bomber. Hey, Maricio. Hey, this is not going to be the last time you'll see me here on Bravo today.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Get ready for the Valley Persian style. Oh, my God. This is amazing. I love it. Oh, we're going to be partying all night in this room. It's just going to be me with a bunch of bracelets and a necklace and an earring, a DJing and hanging out with hot girls, right guys? Hey, guess what?
Starting point is 00:10:59 I've got news. Not only am I going to be on Bravo 18 times this week, but I'm a DJ now. So line up, ladies. Line up. Get ready. I love DJing. Yeah. Well, now Dad's taking DJ lessons, so that's great.
Starting point is 00:11:15 He's taking DJ lessons. I can't. I didn't even know DJ lessons were a thing. Don't you have a YouTube? God. DJ lessons in LA must just be a bunch of 50-year-old dudes with really bright teeth. Like, yeah. Hey, match that beat, baby.
Starting point is 00:11:31 You love to hear some Rob Thomas and Santana, guys. Here we go. I want to do some Buffett, but mix with Charlie X, whatever. Let's do it. Here's some Trio Lippa along with a remix of Dave Matthews. So get ready, everyone. Ants Marching, Remix, Maricio Remix. So it's really awkward.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And he's like, well, you know, I'm a guy. I've got some time on my hand. So I was like, why not take up a new hobby? You know? I was taking up new hobbies last year, but they were all so young that Kyle got mad at me for dating them. So what are you going to do? I was like, um,
Starting point is 00:12:16 we already have enough rumors about you going through midlife crisis. Do you have to add fuel to the fire? I mean, his DJ name is going to be momentum. And she lasts, but I'm like, is she making fun of him or is he really going to be called momentum? I know. I believe it. I know. I actually believe it. Yeah. So they look at the venue. I really don't care about this wedding. So I'm going to skip through it. So if there's anything you want to talk about, go for it. I'll support you. Nope. Just that Maricio was there. And that was it. Maricio's a DJ. I think we, I think we extracted the juice from that fruit. Okay. So we're at Kathy's house now. And Kathy is good Lord. I mean, she's being waxed over. She's being emoliated.
Starting point is 00:12:57 She's getting all the fluids sucked out of her and reput back in with other fluids. Her face looks complete. I don't know if it's been scrubbed. I don't know. It's very smooth. Her lips are pulled so far back that she looks crazy. And these little frown line things are going like this. They're making like a mustache thing.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And I'm just saying all that to point out that I fucking love this woman. And she needs to always stay on the TV. I know. She's great. So, um, Rachel comes over. She's like, honey, I'm a home and I'm vulnerable. And Kathy's like, oh my God, are you going to get a drip or a shot? No, I'll do a shot. Like, I don't do drips. I don't have good veins. My veins broke. They're just broke. My veins are crying right now. Kathy's like a very unique person. In some ways, she like reminds me of my mother. It's just a sweet and supportive. Like, I can't. Like I can't. Like I remember a dinner party being like, where's Kathy? And she was like on the table. And like one of the girls was like, she's at, she's at the caviar.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Remember, like, a few days ago? She, like, ate the caviar that I put out. Like, was that, like, not the most funniest story? Like, oh my God. Wait, hold on. Let me call my son. Hey, Kai. Kathy Hilton came over.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I put out caviar and then she ate it. I know. hilarious. She got a little bit on her dress. I mean, icon. Like, would anyone but Kathy Hilton get caviar on the dress? Like, seriously, dead. I'm deader than that fish egg.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So dead. And then, like, we served dinner afterwards. And she's like, I can't even eat. dinner because I ate so much caviar. I was like iconic. Delirious. So Kathy's like, I was really worried about you the other night. Yeah, I was interesting. Like basically, I saw page six. I saw US weekly. I was even on Netflix. Like I turned on Netflix and they were like, have you watched Rachel Zoe getting divorced? I mean, what the fuck, Kathy? Like I can't. Like, what's happening? Like in my mind, I'm like, I'm doing this as meditation, Catholic, intentionally,
Starting point is 00:14:54 intentionality, quietly. Like, so it doesn't happen and my kids don't have to eat. I mean, even though my kids wake up and I'm like, good morning kids. Your father fucking sucks. Get out of bed. I just don't want Caius and Sky to find out. I'm like really upset. So then the nurse comes into administer shots and everything, which is, sorry. Sorry, I just have bad vans.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Bad vans. Just pass it along to let everyone know, Rachel's always got bad vins. We're doing, we're doing Niger today, Nijian, Ivy. I have to look that up. What does that do? I don't know because I can't get it because I got bad things. But honestly, Kathy, while Ronnie looks this up, let me tell you something. I just was like not myself to begin with.
Starting point is 00:15:36 And then I was like down at the end of the table like with the stupid people. You know, and like that was weird. And Doreth's like getting judged for breaking up this group. And I think it's just like a breaking point for me because I need to know that I'm like not being judged. Because I can't be judged. Do you know some people have judged me for my bad veins. It's bananas. I like have no veins.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Like seriously. I don't even know if I have any blood. So I don't want to be judged. And Kathy's like, I think what I'm hearing is that you want some support? It's like, yeah, I want support. So what I'm saying is like, guys, you judging me? Are you judging me right now?
Starting point is 00:16:11 Like, am I not safe to speak freely here? Nothing had to do with you, Rachel. None of this had to do with you. And she's not like her second day now. She's like, I cannot. These bitches are judging me, Kathy. I don't think it's that we don't want or value other. people's opinions. I just think everyone in this group, whether they agree or not with how she's
Starting point is 00:16:32 handling it, they just need to be like here and there's need to hold her and cheer for her. I wish I could do that, but I have bad vans, which means my arms basically don't work. They're just like two floppy ropes. But for all people, like, what I'm saying is like, I really miss my family right now. She's like, you want to borrow Kim? No, please. Hey, I hear my name. Hey, Rachel. Do you know, sometimes I get in the car. and Carly Simon comes on and I just weep. Because when she says you're so vain, I'm like, no. I have bad vans.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Hey, why is the coat rack talking about Carly Simon? All right, Kim, go back to her box. She doesn't want to. I was coming around again, Macomar and see you in the next Halloween. Oh, wow. Didn't even understand that. You know, Kathy, maybe you'll understand. You know, I'm always in the Hamptons all summer and in Europe.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And the Hamptons and Europe at the same time. Half of me is in one place. Half is in the other. It's somehow an optical illusion. My body is in the Hamptons, but my veins are in Europe. But like obviously working all like in L.A. The summer about working, I mean, shooting this TV show with stupid people, it's just like new for me. Like, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Like, it just feels like everyone left and I'm just stuck here in like the length of table. And I'm just like, I'm broken. I'm breaking in L.A. Do you think it's affecting your mental health? Because it is. Like, actually, like, I need to like laugh. I mean, that's what you do in the Hamptons. I need to like be in the Hamptons.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I need to like. laugh and you know like I mean I know and have a hot girl summer yeah I mean look it's not the south of France but like it's as close as we're going to get right now and like meanwhile like what are we doing here this like the street that has no names like people are even here in the summer like this is crazy I feel like I'm in purgatory Kathy help me did you know there's like a thing called the Hollywood bowl and it happens like all night during the summer and there's like traffic like it's crazy this city in the summer I've never even seen it before I'm not I mean we bowl here in the summer. I can't. Why is everyone lining up to go bowling in Hollywood? Silly. So then we go to
Starting point is 00:18:33 Bose's and we have Ben's favorite. What's happening with IVF guys? So Bose is doing her scene. We just saw this on Mary to Medicine with Quad. And she's doing her scene where she finds out how many eggs she got, how many eggs built houses or whatever it's called. And the eggs did not build houses, which is really sad. This really bugs me, though, this storyline. And it's because I really like Bose a lot. And I hate her saying things like she said here, where she's like, but what about Kili?
Starting point is 00:19:06 How am I going to keep Keeley? I just, it bugs me. That's my thing. Like, it really, I hate that there's the sense of like, oh, if I can't provide a baby for Kili, like, where do we go from here? I was like, no, no, like, that's okay. Like, you know, obviously you want to have this idea of what you want to have for your future. But like if he can't love you without a baby, then maybe.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I think it's fair for somebody to want a baby. You know, like if Keeley wants a baby, that's totally fair. But don't date a 50 year old person and then pressure them into having a baby or you're out of there. Fuck you. You waited forever too. It's not like you, you know, it's not like you made this decision in the right time either. So fuck off. And I don't like seeing her talk like that, you know, getting so almost.
Starting point is 00:19:53 most insecure. And I also don't like the whole I'm having a baby for a man kind of thing. Like, this will fix it. It just, it's giving me icky vibes. Well, I don't think there's anything wrong where like if you love someone and, and you know this is something that would make them happy that you want to do something because you love, you know, that's, I think actually one of the weird things about love is that you actually want to do things for other people, you know. But what I don't like is the doubt that, like, if I can't do this, then I, like, you know, what might happen. It's like, that should not be the issue here.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And that, that to me is very sad. Well, I think having kids, you know, and she, I guess she wants to have kids too, I guess. But it just seems like she wants to have kids for the guy. And I just, I want that's how it's better for her. Yeah, it's coming off that way. Maybe there's, maybe she can clarify on the reunion or something. But it's coming off like, like she's doing it purely for him. And then if she doesn't do it for him, then their relationship may not survive.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And I think that's, that's shitty. But now we go over to Jade in Beverly Hills. Well, it didn't work, by the way. It didn't, the baby, the eggs weren't, I don't know what they call it. They weren't like viable. They didn't, yeah, they weren't viable. And so she's like, well, you know, she cries and which is heartbreaking. And then she's like, you know, I mean, I'm almost 50 and we've got to think about kind of the reality of this, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And I don't know that I'm really ready to go. And he's like, oh, no, let's talk about that later. as we go through the process again. Okay, we're going to be going through round two. And I just didn't like that. Like, I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I'll think about it later. I'm like, stop. Yeah, we'll think about it while you're going through the next round. That's his answer. I take a toll on her emotionally and physically. It's a lot. And she's going to do all the,
Starting point is 00:21:40 she has to do all the hard work here. He has to just sit there. Yeah. So now we go to this restaurant where Rachel and Sutton and Dorit arrive. And Rachel's like, Guys, do I look like I slept one hour? Because I did. I slept one hour.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I kept getting woken up in the middle of the night with my veins. They were trying to fight someone because they're bad. They're bad vans. No, you do. First of all, where did you go? And Sutton's like, oh, she's telling Sutton, like, where did you go, Sutton? And Sutton goes, where did I go? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:22:17 And then we see a flashback of Doree saying, well, I've heard it said behind your back. You're judging me. And she says, you know, Sutton's the one who told me Amanda was talking behind my back. And she's the one that started the shit show. And then she didn't even say anything at the dinner. Mm-hmm. And Sutton's like, well, you know what? Like, let me tell you what she said about you.
Starting point is 00:22:36 She's concerned that you're talking too much about the divorce and then it might come back to bat you. So, Dorett's like, but instead of calling Amanda out for lying, she was radio silent. And, you know, we, son's like, but you're very strong and you fight your own. battles well and honestly I was just just trying to see count to 135 and before I got my next beverage okay so I really wasn't listening to what I'm saying yes but I didn't want you to fight my battles not at all said not at all which I'm saying to a face when by your back I'm saying she should have fought me battles and Rachel's like right right well she had an opinion and she said her opinion and that's that and so then we see
Starting point is 00:23:23 a flashback to the, you know, did she say he's a raging alcoholic or didn't she? And Amanda's saying, well, I mean, if it's true, she can say that. She goes, but maybe you shouldn't say that about the father of your child. Well, I thought that that was clear that she had an opinion. Well, was it a loud and strong opinion? Because she basically is playing down like, Derreet. You're taking this too far. This was nothing, though.
Starting point is 00:23:48 There's like a nothing thought. Yeah, well, she had her own opinion about it because they were talking about Amanda. obviously Amanda and Kyle and Rachel's like yeah but I have to say it was pretty fucking ballsy to punt it to Kyle last night I'm like it wasn't that ballsy it was like a pretty pretty obvious thing to do I think that's like what you do like when you're you're taking getting shit for stuff that style Kyle started so I mean like Kyle deal with it yeah I mean I think it was pretty ballsy to like kind of go against Kyle and be like I'll did it that's your only friend on the show yeah and Rachel's like
Starting point is 00:24:23 Like, well, I mean, like when you do not own something, like all it does is enrage the other person. And what I'm going to do, this is where she says, like, what I would do is just say, sorry, I don't know you. And I should have kept my thoughts to myself. And then boom, it's done. Mm-hmm. So it's like, I agree. I cannot stand when people do not own things. Like, do you know there are people that lease their houses instead of buy their houses?
Starting point is 00:24:43 Disgusting. No, that's not what that means. Son, okay, it's different. If someone owns it and apologize, it's like, great. Fine. Okay. Because you took it on the chin. Where do you go from there?
Starting point is 00:24:52 Let's like literally know where you can go. It's like you're trying to go somewhere. It's like walls. Walls everywhere because there's nowhere left to go. Because you've been like you own it now. And now you're trapped. Trapped in walls. And you're broken.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And you realize the walls are your closet and there's Chanel and then you're happy. It's great. Commercials. Here comes one right now. Meanwhile, Kyle and Amanda are hiking at tree people. And this looks scary. Have you ever gone hiking here? No.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I have not. I'm not hiked. I was looking at it. I was like, I was like, where is this place? I think they've gone here on the show several times,
Starting point is 00:25:31 though. It looks terrifying. It's like you, you're on this path, but then on both sides of you is just a very steep drop, you know? It's like there's only the road.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And I got scary because I'm a clumsy person. You're safe, Ronnie. That was scared. Of course I would never get that high anyway. Who are we kidding? So, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:51 they're talking about the perfect weather. And Carl's like, oh, yeah, and you didn't really. A beautiful job on the house, by the way. That's why I sobbed in the other room and cried that you turned Porsche's desk into a bar. Great job. Yeah, the way you got rid of my iconic checkerboard floors that I sold from Chris Jenner and my sister, like, that was really great.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Like, I'm totally happy. I'm really happy right now. It's really wonderful. Samantha's like, yeah, because my life is so peaceful. Like with my family, these friendships are the only thing that's like not really peaceful right now. I generally believe that Doreen and I could easily clearly air around. this but now I don't know what the fuck to think like she doesn't want
Starting point is 00:26:28 resolve she doesn't want to understand she doesn't want to see where each other's coming from she doesn't want to know about how I woke up every 30 minutes with my heart beating fast because I was having a physiological reaction to the way she was accosting me at a dinner party which I'd never experienced before my life and Kyle's like yeah I was annoyed with that whole thing you know
Starting point is 00:26:46 Amanda's not she didn't show up for the second half of the after show filming because you know how they film one chunk of it and then they film another turn in the second half of the season. She just stopped showing up. So they replaced her, which is a sign.
Starting point is 00:27:00 You know, everyone's like, who did she quit? Did she quit midseason? Nobody knows. But Kyle's like, yeah, that was stressful.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I was annoyed. And she like, yeah, the energy she was directing at me. Like, she switched it to you and then switched it back to me. I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:13 that's like nuts. Well, my frustration with Doret is like, Bose could say the exact same thing that I said and she would have a completely different reaction than she does if I say it. And we do see a flashback of God being like, you know, saying about the Florida thing, like, just go to Florida and like, you'll deal with it.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And then Doreet's like, you don't understand. And then Bose is like, well, go to Florida. And then you'll deal with it. Thank you, Pose. No, because the difference was, Kyle was like, if he wants to go to Florida and stay in a hotel, then he can do that, you know, and then your kids can go with the parents or whatever. And Doree got mad. And Bose said, no, let him do whatever he wants, but make him, if he doesn't want to let the kids go to Florida, then make him be the bearer of bad news. So her point was like, you don't have to be the bad guy in this.
Starting point is 00:27:57 You do whatever you want to. Don't tell the kids anything. And if someone is going to disappoint the kids, let it be PK. Well, either way, even if they did say the exact same thing, it would be totally justified for Doreet to be okay with what Bose says because Bose is coming from a place of like genuine support. And so it's in the larger context of that relationship. Whereas with Kyle, you don't really know if she's supporting.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And it just like you're going to be. beyond edge because Kyle has squandered whatever social capital she has with Doreet. And so therefore everything's going to be taken with a grand assault with her. And Amanda Singh, I mean, you told me you experienced him as a good father. So like I could see how you'd be conflicted. Yeah, well, she's not the wife in that relationship. So what the fuck does she know? You've experienced him as a good father.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Did P.K. raise Kyle? Yeah. Well, regardless of what I know or don't know and all that, like I still stand by the fact that it's smart just to not put the stuff out there, which I think like she's so angry. She like just doesn't even care because to read is completely blindsided to any help or advice that I want to offer her as a friend right now. And I don't know if there's a way to get back on track until she's in a better place. And I don't think she's open to that. And I think she's too angry right now with everything. So Kyle is casting to read as the unreasonable, angry, hysterical person. And Dorit is angry,
Starting point is 00:29:14 for sure. But Kyle also is just completely taking like her responsibility of the responsibility. she's taking her own responsibility of the situation out of the situation, not even making any sense. But the point is that, like, Kyle's acting like, this is just all on Doreet. Like, she's just crazy and not reasonable when it's more like, Kyle, you're basically rendezvousing with the other side. And it's making Doreet furious. And you just don't even see what your role is in this entire situation.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Amanda doesn't either because she's like, oh, my God, we had so much fun talking about empowerment at lunch and now she doesn't like me. Like, what the hell? So then we go back to the other lunch and Tariot's like, All I've heard about is her business. I've heard, I haven't heard anything about her past. Her bringing her cult. I would like to know more about this cult.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Okay, that sounds fun. And Rachel's like, yeah, that was insane. I just want you to know, I was not armed for that. Like, I was armed for fashion, but not armed for cults. Which is really, it's, when I say I'm not armed for something, it means a lot to me because I've got bad veins in those arms. Yeah, I wasn't armed for it. And I'm basically an arm with a head on top of it. still.
Starting point is 00:30:23 It's not armed. Well, it's okay to talk about it. It's on our website. We so we can gossip away. You guys. You guys, like, am I an idiot? Like, isn't a cult something that you don't like actually want to say that you're a part of? Like, who brags about that on a blog? Like what?
Starting point is 00:30:39 She's like, ew, gross. You're a cult? Who brags about being a cult? Don't talk about that. Gross, culty person. You dirty post cult, gross. I think maybe she survived the cult. And so she's trying to say like, look, I survived a cult.
Starting point is 00:30:53 So maybe that's it. Dorea's like, well, she claims to be very open and transparent. Yeah, that's why she wrote about the cult in the blog. But the term cult, like, think about it. Just say it, cult. It's really just like one, it's like two letters away down the alphabet from being a very offensive word. Isn't that what like grows in old milk? Ew.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Ew. And who talks about milk these days? This is nothing. So not in the dairy. Milk. It's gross. And so it's like, yeah, it's not a good thing. Colt.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Look, I just said it. It sounded like a curse word. Ew. And dreams like, well, something is amiss and I would like to know and understand Amunda because it's not what you see. It's what you eat. Hmm? At the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing.
Starting point is 00:31:43 At the end of the day, you get arms for arms. And that's what they say for the life of the armless. That's it. Ew, cults, just thought about it again. This is a process of gonna, like, this is process are gonna roll out, like, who she really is. And I think, like, we have the right to ask those questions. Like, let's see who the fuck she is.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Like, here's a question. Have you ever left L.A. in the summer? Do you voluntarily stay here in the summer if you don't have to shoot a show? Are you gross like that? Is L.A. your cult? Ew, gross. Get away. Well, what do you think that we can do to make her feel more open and tell her stuff?
Starting point is 00:32:17 Like, how'd you end up in a cult? Had you escaped from the cult? because I like to know that. Listen, it's born being sober. I need something to watch. Okay. I can do that. I can tell her.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I have no issues with that. I'm like really good about like broaching cold stuff, even though I think it's so gross. Okay, but how do we make her feel more included without actually like including her? Because I don't want to go to lunch with her or anything, but I want her to feel included. How do we do that? Gross. No, I don't want to include her.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Like, ew. Hold on one second. I'm having allergic reaction to like including her and her cult. Yeah, so she's like, well, I do want the story of your business because that's exciting. Like yourself made. Great. Awesome. But like that could be a deflection.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Like maybe she identifies herself as her business. And that's really bad because like people have businesses. But then like sometimes like their business is their whole personality. I'm like your business is called Rachel Zoe. And it's like literally. I'm like literally. Let's go back to us talking, guys. The real friends.
Starting point is 00:33:21 So Amanda, say something. All I can do is share my truth, right? Like, I thought I was vulnerable and authentic for me to say that I'd never left the dinner party crying before. Like, isn't that the most vulnerable thing you could say is that you've never cried at a dinner party? No, it was accusatory. No, it was vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:33:38 You know, like some people share really vulnerable parts about their childhood. For me, it was sharing that I'd never left a party crying before. That was, like, deep and, like, honestly, brave of me to share that. And I woke up throughout the night, did you hear about this? My heart was beating every 30 seconds. I was like, turns out I was just blinking, but those blinks were like micronaps. And I was heart racing all throughout them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And like, it's like she's trying to dig up dirt on me, but like there's no dirt because it's like a cult. Like I'm not hiding that. Like why would I hide anything in my life? It's on my blog. And Kyle's like, yeah, you need to tell me about the cult at some point. That would be fun. Okay. Well, you want to talk about it right now?
Starting point is 00:34:15 No. Okay. So, you know, like looking at Amanda, like she doesn't accept. Exactly like scream cult member. But I mean, I don't get what Doreet's trying to come for Amanda for. Like, what does she gain from this? Kyle, what do you gain from being friends with Amanda, you dummy? Like, that's the point you've gotten yourself to you on the show where you're only friends with the person that everyone hates.
Starting point is 00:34:36 For good reason, you don't like her either. Amanda does not speak, does not scream cult member, but she does sort of scream cult leader. I don't know. So Kyle is like, yeah, it's crazy. So Amanda's like, but to her, this isn't a bad version of herself. This is open and honest. The Rita just feels open and honest right now. So back to the restaurant, I need to be able to be open and honest.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I need support for my friends right now. I'm in a place where I don't want to hold it inside. And then I have to go through this without the support. And Rachel's like, it's so poisonous. It's like poison. Well, I came to this year and I really believed that me and Coyle were going to rebuild our friendship. but her actions and her words are telling me something totally different, and trust me, I'm no words now. I'm an author.
Starting point is 00:35:25 You might have seen a garden scene earlier today where I said, Dear Diary! And talk to my readers. Now, until she starts showing up as an actual friend who supports me, I cannot continue to play this game of fake fucking thing, didn't? I'm done, I'm done. I have protected Coyle for years. I have protected coil at all costs
Starting point is 00:35:49 even when I felt the most betrayed the most hurt where her and I had no friendship or whatsoever I felt protected her. I bought her a helmet. I went to Dick's sporting good, got her a helmet and I said do you have one that has the size of someone who has a very stupid looking head and they got it for her and I brought it to her so she's protected
Starting point is 00:36:05 that's what I did for her. Well I don't think that you think that she thinks that she's like protecting you. So like I don't you just don't trust her. You just don't like you don't trust her. It's like me not really trusting arms like arms have vans fans fans are bad fans are in cults and that's how we end the episode so fun and funny thank you all for being here do go vote for the crappies come join us
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