Watch What Crappens - #3239 RHOP S10E20 Reunion 3 Part Two: Sharin’ is Karen

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

This is part 2 of a two-part recap!It’s Karen time on The Real Housewives of Potomac reunion and she’s as Karen as ever. From refusing to say “alcoholic” to lecturing Wendy on how to deal with... charges, Karen puts the Grand in Damn, woman! To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening,, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to watch our crap and the podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you miss part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. So now we have unseen footage. Unseen footage. And Karen and Wendy are sitting talking.
Starting point is 00:00:40 And Karen's like, well, when your back was against the wall and people were attacking your mother calling her a witch, I had your back. And my question to you is, why weren't you wavering it? Unwaving in support of me. And Wendy's like, when people are dragging about the DUI thing, I have held you down till today. So for you to specifically bring up my mother thing and then use the W words towards my mom, I would expect what you did from the other ladies, but I wouldn't have expected that from you. So here we go, Wendy. And now Wendy has decided to double down and twist that even more.
Starting point is 00:01:10 And she says, well, you went first. You betwied me. You called my mother a witch. No, she did not call your mother a witch. Just stop it. She said when people called your mother of which I stood up for you. It's not the same thing and you know it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:24 That's, yeah, that feels like she was like, she saw a way in and was like, ooh, she called my mother of witch. I can run with this. But look how instantly alive, this show becomes with Karen back on it. I mean, instantly. Like, all of, all of Wendy's bullshit is like immediately exposed, I felt like, with Karen being here. Wendy's called out and she's like, because everybody else is like, oh, my God. Wendy, Wendy, you're so amazing. Congratulations on your nomination to prison.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Oh, you betrayed me. You call my mother a witch. A witch. Well, that's, I mean, Cynthia Rivo's a witch. It's an honor. It's a great honor. What are you talking about? For you to sit here and act like I took some pride in using that word disgust me.
Starting point is 00:02:07 You think I took pride in saying the word witch. I'm like, you guys, it's the word which. I understand that there's cultural, cultural elements that are, you know, that are different for Wendy and her mother, but it's also like, it's just hilarious because they're acting like it's the C word. But I guess that is that that is the cultural difference there. So I guess, yeah, but that was a NACA fight and a me up thing. That wasn't, you know, I mean, mostly. She started.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Let's never forget. Yes, which actually started. So I'm pleased. So Karen's like, well, I'm saying very, let me, I want to make a very, very clear. Oh, right. I'm sorry, I didn't understand that. I'm sorry. very clear.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I do want to say this, though, Annie, very clearly. Are you any of Three Musketeers? Are you any of Three Musketeers Bar, Karen? I've had it injected into my love, actually. It's delicious. It's a slow release. Slow release. Now, listen, no disrespect to your mother.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I adore your mother. I particularly love when she told you to shut the fuck up this season. And I started cracking up, and then everyone else was like, I can't believe it. Wendy was traumatized by her mother telling her to shut her. Shut the fuck up. How dare you? It was a sensitive scene.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Yeah, Karen thought she was like, uh-huh, this is a good read. And everyone was, like, offended by it. By the way, it is also hilarious that, like,
Starting point is 00:03:26 Karen's, like, most famous thing that she says consistently is, let me be very clear. But she now has to say it while literally having a lip hanging down to her chin, a top lip, and she literally cannot be clear.
Starting point is 00:03:36 What is it clear? I was like, I actually would love it if you could be very clear right now. Good luck with that. So they're all horrified. You guys cannot keep bringing Wendy's mother on TV and letting her spread whatever messiness she's going to spread and then act like such victims when anybody talks about what her mother says on the TV. Then stop bringing her on here.
Starting point is 00:03:58 But you guys can't bring her on here and then act so offended when anybody just repeats what she says. Come on. I actually am going to be a little sympathetic towards the situation. And the reason why is Wendy's mom was being a terror that day. And Wendy's mom was being so mean. and Wendy's mom was like really verbally berating her. I know we like talked about it. And there's like, you know, it's a, it's not a black and white situation.
Starting point is 00:04:22 But ultimately it was still her mother being like, oh, Wendy, shut the fuck up. And it was, it was mean. Her mom was being mean to her. And so for Karen, by her, I know Karen was just trying to be like clever and funny to be like, oh, shut the fuck up, Wendy. But basically what she was saying is like doubling down like, yes, your mom should have told you to shut the fuck up. I think that's how it landed, which is why everyone was like, ew.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I still left it because Wendy. brought her mother on TV that day to stump for her father who ditched the family and completely abandoned the mother. So I say, you know, she had been pushing her mother over and over again on that. And the mom was finally like, shut the fuck up. You're not going to get me on here and make me look like a bad guy for not being totally pro your dad. When your dad is an abandoner low life, like, I'm not going to do it and fuck you, you know. Now did she go a little far? Yes, but that's your mother. And you knew what you were doing when you brought her on TV. and purposely poked at her.
Starting point is 00:05:16 So I think Wendy did that to herself, I say. I think she was trying to pull a Bronwyn and get some pity from having a mom who treats her like that. But you poked her. Well, Andy is like, well, okay, well, that was a very rough scene for her, much like prison will probably be.
Starting point is 00:05:31 But are you both feeling betrayed? I think the therapist Andy says, you're both feeling betrayed by the other for different reasons. Yes, yes, and I'm working with a pro. Well, we'll go to the pro. And that's Raven, really. She's teaching me about vertical videos.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Did you know that that's how you do it on Instagram? Well, I guess we're not going to solve this one today. So let's move forward for the last five years. All right, let's have a Dr. Wendy clip. Okay, it's the Dr. Wendy segment. Let's just do Dr. Wendy. Okay. So we see clips of them being happy and then starting Happy Yeti and Happy Eddie and Happy Eddie is expanding.
Starting point is 00:06:08 And then the house remodel. And then the mom blowing up on her. and then the arrest. And we come back and Giselle and Ashley and Karen are just chatting. They're like, oh, my God. Just so over the storyline. Angel, what did you mean when you said you hope justice is served? Well, I want justice to get to know me.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And once they do get to know me, they'll see him a very bubbly, effervescent person. But I also hope that Wendy gets her day in court. Because for me, it shocked me because of all the indictments of me from throughout the season. And I had become a whipping boy of sorts because she was going through something privately that she wasn't sharing with the group and using me as a red herring. So everyone in America, it's nice to see that the real victim is Angel. Real victim and Wendy's arrest, Angel. Yes. So Ashley's like, well, that's a reach.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Wendy, what are your initial reactions to hearing what some of the ladies had to say in that package? Because in the package that we see, they're talking about all the counts. And Jazeel's like, oh, when the feds come for you, they've got that case wrapped up tight-ta, girl. You've got the degrees. That was not a smart crime. And Tia is saying, well, Nigerians are stigmatized as being scammers. We get a bad rep. Enough as it is.
Starting point is 00:07:27 This wasn't fair to us. So Wendy's like, well, listen, going on the past three or four months have been hell. So when you hit rock bottom, people's opinions of you don't pierce you anymore. Oh, I know. As someone who's hit rock bottom many, many times as an un-alcoholic. I'm with you, Wendy. All right, Giselle, Kay, and Ashley, you don't come across as exactly very concerned in that clip we just saw. Do you stand by everything you said? And Karen was like, yeah, I stand by everything I stand that clip.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And I was actually genuinely shocked when I heard about it because, like, when I think about Wendy, it's like, an nice dynamic this season. I felt like this was like something that Wendy already knew that she was going through and like a lot of relationships. She basically does the same thing that, um, Angel does, which is like, oh, the reason why Wendy was so mean to me this season is because she was going through it. And so now it makes sense. So yeah, I definitely get it because she wasn't, because I had to be the person she took it all out on that because she was stressed because she was committing her crime. No, Kierna, you came in going after Wendy all season for not saying hi to you as she was giving a speech on a stage. Okay. And Angel jumped in. So I don't know what you two
Starting point is 00:08:38 were trying to make up now, but it's not that deep. So, Jezele's like, well, I do not feel like this was something that Wendy knew. Why? Because we worked hard to get to a good place. And of course, my heart goes out to your children. But I cannot remember whether or not you had the break in before after the conversation. But you said Eddie paid all the bills and all that. So we see a clip of Wendy saying, oh, wow, guys, in 2024, saying, I don't know how to pay my mortgage. I have no idea. Like, I don't even know when it's due. I don't know how my like company is paid. Like, I don't know. How do I do it? And as you say, I think this was like,
Starting point is 00:09:10 Giselle's way to be like, remember you had this conversation. This is your way to sort of like Teresa Judeyize it. Okay. Yes, play dumb. Play dumb. Yeah. You know. But it kind of goes to Kearna's point.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Like you did all know this stuff was coming, which is why you went on camera and tried to make it look like, I have no idea about finances. Eddie does literally every single thing financially. And of course, I like Wendy. And so when this happened, I was like, I don't want to say I was duped. I want to say I was like, I was extremely disappointed and you'd only be disappointed if you believe the person's guilty
Starting point is 00:09:42 and I'm not going to say that Wendy is guilty guilty guilty guilty I will just say I'm disappointed that she doesn't seem more innocent da. Like what you, Jezele's basically saying like yeah she did it right like you're not disappointed if someone's innocent. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. So Andy is like, whoa, Wendy, what are your reactions to what you're hearing? If you would like, you could put on your baby voice.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Well, just the point of quality, my home was broken into in 2024, and it was right before we started filming season. Yeah, she really does do that baby thing, like hardcore. So she tells the story that we've all read, if you've read about this. They went on vacation. The daughter comes downstairs when they get back and says, Zoe made a mess. And Zoe's our dog. And she's like, you know, but we took our dogs to the doggie hotel. How could they make a mess?
Starting point is 00:10:35 And then Eddie went to sea and came downstairs and said, baby, something happened. And we called 911 and we reported a burglary. And there's a reason I'm saying this as it relates to case statement because that was in 2024. And fast forward to October 9th, 2025, we get a knock at the door. And they're like, hey, I'm the cop who, you know, came to check on your burglary. And she's like, oh, my God, have you found the burglars? And he said, your house wasn't robbed. Don, don't, don.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And like, and then she's like, I have to say, I mean, Wendy is so convincing. I was like, oh, my God, she's, this is an innocent lady. And then I was like, oh, yeah, but there's like files and false evidence. There's like so much evidence. It's so bad. But she's very convincing to me. I mean, of course I also love. I believe that she didn't know.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Mm. I believe that she didn't know that they were going to arrest her because that's kind of what they're talking about, right? Like, did Wendy know that they were going to arrest her? And that's why she was acting like, she was setting up a case and acting like trying to get everybody against the other girls because she was trying to deflect from her own case. I don't think that she knew that a case was happening. I think that they were investigating her and that she thought she got away with it until they came to get her.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Yeah. So Andy's like, well, Karen, you just went to jail. What do you think? She's like, well, first of all, I wish your children the absolute best. My heart goes out to them. Also, you know, whatever you're going through, I was hoping it would be dismissed because I need, I need you to go home to your children. And remember how before I just told you to shut the fuck up and everyone gasped? Basically, my shade didn't really land right. Let me just recontextualize it. That way you actually see that I said it from place of concern. I was like, okay, Karen, because she's like, I took it out of context.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Because what I wanted to say was, I wouldn't say anything if I were you. I was like, no, Karen, you were mad at her and you wanted her to shut up. And now you're acting like, no, you were giving her motherly advice. I'm trying to help. Yeah, I was trying to coach you. You're shade bombed on stage. You're trying to fix it. Yeah, she's like, well, I didn't want you to do what you just did.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Because I wouldn't have answered anything on the stage. today. You're talking too much, Wendy. I'm begging you. I'm begging you. I'm pleading with you. Stop talking. Do not talk. I don't want you to go to jail, and I'm begging you to stop interviewing. I'm begging you because I don't believe it's helping you. Now, take it from the Karen you used to like. How about that? Remember her? Gorgeous. Amazing. Because when you talk the way they watch, okay, and they hear you. And so I would have said, respectfully, Andy, I can't answer those questions, and I worry about you. And I worry, I worry about you talking and posing, posing for pictures. Oh, it's in the pictures.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Okay, well, before, before I came out on stage here. No, no, let me finish. I want you to know. I wish you and Eddie the absolute best porridge in the mornings in prison. I received that. And prior to coming here, my legal counsel was informed that I would be here. Good, good. Yeah, yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And they are very aware of the line of questioning. and what I do with all right now is already public record. Well, I'm just praying that everything you're saying is the truth because they can twist it, and they can turn it, and it won't be in your favor. And you've got to think about the kids. That's all I'm saying. I wouldn't even be here. I wouldn't even be here.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Well, it was public record, and I know that you were out of the public eye in jail for a few months there. So, Karen, I would see what you're saying, and I'm just saying it's public record. And it was even in the police report. And so I know what you're saying, but, like, you know, no one to put the kibosh on it. Okay, I'm not an idiot. I know, I know what I can say on TV. Thank you. And Karen's like, listen to your lawyers. I just want you to listen to you. You didn't take the plea deal. What are you talking about? Karen coming out like she's an expert on things is absolutely hilarious. So Wendy's like, well, there's a silver lining in any situation.
Starting point is 00:14:26 You know, my family's wallied around me. My mom and my sister were the first people there. they've already sold half of my closet and I'm not even gone yet. You know, and the way the Eddie's family is rallied, you know, we've come together in a way that we were not together before. So that's been great. Oh, well, that's fun. You know, there's a few narratives that anyone who watch the show could latch on to. Theoretically, I'm not saying that's what I'm saying. I'm just saying someone might think this, one of which is that you were taking care of your mom financially,
Starting point is 00:14:56 which is why you put yourself in a situation to commit a crime. so maybe you want to blame it on your mom or one of which is that you and Eddie were renovating your home so you could blame it on the home or maybe you were just dressing up someone from the show or putting an image together just to be fly on the show or maybe I mean there's so many ways this could go it just seems like you guys really had a lot of motivation
Starting point is 00:15:15 to commit a big crime so how do you respond to that? I like when Andy is on the Black Housewives shows like he's on the reunion and he's like wow were you doing it just to look fly Right? It can be. Come on. These allegations are whack.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Do you ever just want to tell law enforcement to step off the curb? You know what? If you get off of these allegations, I'll be the first one to say, you go, girl. Well, it was reported. She's like, I don't respond. People can have the narrative. That's on them. Well, it was reported you've got 67 credit cards.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Whoa, multiple aliases, Pam Oliver, Eddie Hennessy. She's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, well, my legal counsel responded to that in court, so they collected that. Well, that just means that they said something in court. It doesn't mean it wasn't true. And she's like, well, those aliases were only used for packages and deliveries. And there are no aliases which were used for any financial institution. And that narrative was correct. Is she worried that like Amazon is going to be like, oh, my God, is Wendy?
Starting point is 00:16:27 was oh yeah apparently i mean you know it's it's it is good to have some privacy if you're if you're famous um and you know i mean actually i will say you know she does a lot of talking head stuff on msnbc very liberal so maybe there's like some fear of like a maybe someone who's like a right wing crazy you know like i think anyone who's seven credit cards and multiple aliases no i'm just saying that's why i can imagine why she might have an alias for privacy that's why. Like, you know, I think anyone who's talking in the news could like open themselves up for maybe something crazy from someone on the other end of, of their political spectrum. I'm just giving Wendy a little bit of benefit of the doubt on this one. But, uh, yes, 67 credit cards still doesn't make sense, though.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I mean, alias I can come up with 67 credit cards. I don't know. Well, it was also reported that prosecutors claim you have very little money and are in a subsist. substantial debt. By the way, it says that about 97% of housewives. She's like, well, I respect the legal system. And if that's so opinion, then that's the opinion. Oh, okay. All right. Well, Siff from Liss says, how was all of this impacted your marriage? And she's like, well, absolutely. You know, you hit Walkbottom. I'm with you, girl. I've been there. Yes. And, you know, it tests your marriage. But when you both hit Walk Bottom at the same time, you're at the doubles. on legal seafood time. Am I right, girl? So, yeah, it's hard. It's hot. It's like you have two oyster crackers at the bottom of the chowder bowl.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I get it. Well, as a parent, by the way, I haven't reminded anybody today. I'm a dad. I'm a dad. So I get it. You know, it's got to be really hard. Like, your first thought has to be, who would look after your kids? Is John Mayer free?
Starting point is 00:18:22 I mean, I think it's got to be Ivy, right? Isn't that her sister Ivy? It's Ivy, right? But it's like, I feel like, you know, Ivy's going to be like, well, here I am again. I've got to be the one to take on all these children. Thanks a lot, Wendy. So Wendy's like, I play that we don't get there.
Starting point is 00:18:40 All right, well, listen, Giselle set it on tape, and I think all of us who care about you, we're worried because the case that presenting doesn't look good. Like, what would you say to us or to me about that? Tell us about the case. well, I would say Ashley never looks good and you still have who on the show. Case dismissed.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Let's just see how it plays out. I'm like, okay, well, thanks, Wendy. Of course we're going to see how it plays out. We've been to court and some of what has been presented has been collected and I'm not here to please the media as far as objecting to every headline that's written about me. So we're just going to play it out in the legal system. Well, you know, it just stands out to me that you're such a great housewife
Starting point is 00:19:25 I mean, you've been an exemplary role model. You've led with your education. You've led with your love, of family, your culture, your faith. She's like, yeah. And I think that's why for me and a lot of viewers, we're like, whoa, this is hilarious. Wendy was arrested for fraud. Would you like to cry now? I just want to remind everyone, happy and ness have never looked better.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Your hair looks great. You're so smart. You're so wonderful. Are you crying yet? Please cry. Should I tell everyone about how he hugged at BravoCon? Come on. Let those tears roll.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Let's have a moment. So she talks about how she loves Andy and he hugged her at BravoCon. And he hugged every part of me. I didn't. It's like you didn't want to let go. So thank you, Andy. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:15 So they have a great hug. You hug. Andy's- Every pod of me. Every part. So Karen, what do you think? What's your advice? And she's like, well, first of all, we are phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:20:25 black women who are not alcoholics. She's like, amen, sister. And my prayers are with you and your family. Adversity are always faced in life, and I know you'll rise. Hey, that's my line. And I pray you'll never know what it's like to have your liberties taken away from you. As they were me, there is another side. It won't break you. And if you get real with yourself, you'll be a better version of yourself. Thank you. Absolutely. This has been Karen, the book of Karen. Thank you very much. Here comes one right now. Any final words? For the reunion?
Starting point is 00:21:06 No, probably for the next few years. Oh, well, I'm not on the other side of it yet, but when you're in that valley, you see a side of yourself that you've never seen before, and it builds humility and it builds strength. And even though I'm not out of the storm, I'm already a better woman for being in the storm. And I'm forever grateful for that. I love being in storms.
Starting point is 00:21:25 All right. Okay, well, Karen and Monique. I love being in storms. I've learned always have a wing coat because thwumps. That's the ones. It's a very nice little thing that said nothing, which is really good about speaking a lot and saying nothing, which is, I think she probably learned that from Karen.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yeah. Politician speaks. She's been in politics for a long time. So, and he's like, oh, hey, Karen and Monique, I mentioned. Sorry, what? Nothing. I was just going to say, it's been 10 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It's been a milestone. You guys have been instrumental in the success of this series, and I want to acknowledge that before we let you go to prison. So thank you both, and it's great to see both of you, especially in the place that you're in at your life. What a beautiful thing. Thank you. Monique's like, I'm not going to prison. Well, you know, time's the ticking. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:22:22 We'll be going around, okay? So then people get their break and Karen and just. So I'll hug and Eddie comes up and kisses Wendy on the end. He's like, Hey, buddy. And, um, you know, everyone gets up to hug Karen except for Wendy. Wendy stay seated. Yeah. I love this moment when they come back from break and Kierna's the train on her dress is like taking up all the space and angel goes, um, Kierna, my feet needs some room from your dress.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And kind of like lifts up like one little flap and like moves it over like an inch and then just like puts it back down. Like does not like do anything for angel and just like, oh, okay. Angel should have just kicked that shit over. It's so rude. Just step on it. Step on it. So they're like, where's Giselle's packages? And she goes, yeah, where's me?
Starting point is 00:23:09 What do you want them to put in Giselle? You didn't do anything all season except fuck with other people. What do you want them where you're just dancing around your house by yourself and laying on your bed and saying, wow, my children are gone? I think the fact that they kept that commentary in, because I don't know if necessarily we would have noticed it. Some people may have noticed it. Jazele had a moment, by the way. She definitely had a moment on the show of like an episode or two ago where they talked about the Will, her dad, her daughters,
Starting point is 00:23:37 everything like that. But it was funny that they didn't have a clip package for her. And the fact that they kept that in there, I feel like it was a sign that they were a message they were giving to Jizel to say, you need to like, you're, yes, you are a legend on the show and you're very funny and you're shady and you stir the pot, but you need to start like doing more because we're highlighting it. We're calling you out now in front of the audience.
Starting point is 00:24:01 So she's like, hey, uh, so where's my package? Yeah. Let's do something, Jazeel, especially when she says, you know, at the end, she's talking. Oh, yeah, no, we'll get to it. But, um, yeah. So now it's like, what did you learn this season? Okay, let's start with the newbies, Angel. She's like, well, I've learned that being zen and calm doesn't mean that you need to skip over things that bother you.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And, you know, I just can't wait for this group of ladies to really get to know me because I really feel like when they get to know me, they're really going to like me. I know. All right. Yeah. And my biggest takeaway is that I could be quite naive in some situations and say things and not really think about the damage it can cause for somebody else. And when those people are damaged, namely my children, I just laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh. I've also learned that sometimes it's good to just go knock on the door and say, I use. to live in this home because people will generally take you in and sometimes give you a cookie.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Well, this particular day reminds me that we do more things in common than not. I just want to remind myself to put myself in someone else's shoes, the shoes of someone who really loves picture frames and loves gazing out at a highway from her balcony. Ashley? Oh, my shoes. Wait a minute, I'm in my own shoes. Ashley? Well, I'll piggyback, Kay.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I've always looked at this group as his sisterhood. You know, you guys have really been there for me. And I think that maybe I've started to not be a sisterly. So maybe I'll lean more into my sisterly side with this group of late. Oh, okay, okay. Giselle. Well, since I just realized, you all didn't give me a package, I'll just give you a little synopsis about what's going on in my life.
Starting point is 00:25:49 My children are great. One of them is a manager at Arizona's now. And one became a member of my sorority. So the legacy continues. Alpha, alpha, alpha, alpha, alpha, Alpha, Kappa, Kappa, Kappa, Incorporated Alpha, Delta. So get into it.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Now I've been dating a lot. Yes. Sorry. I what? I thought you reached a period. I apologize. No, that all works. That works.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Sorry. I've been dating a lot. But moving forward, I'm looking forward to more quality. So I'm looking forward to quality in 2026. I'm looking to new business endeavors, which I will share with the world as they come. And yes, thank you for not giving me a package. I really appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I feel like a customer on the estimated arrival day for FedEx Ground. No package. No package here. Those girls' got cookies are not coming, Ronnie. Okay, Giselle, so if you've been dating a lot, then put it on the show and you might have a package. But dating and just not telling anybody anything and just coming on and just trying to ruin everybody else for sport is not enough. give something. Although, Jezo was accused for years and years of hiring men to be her boyfriend on this show.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And I think she's just like, fine. I won't hire anybody else then. Save myself so many. I actually have a controversial, very controversial. This will be a real issue in the midterm elections. A controversial take, which is that I actually don't always need my housewives to have like a fully fleshed out storyline if they are contributing to the overall storyline of the group. And I know that like with a friend of their role is to contribute, but we don't care about their personal lives.
Starting point is 00:27:30 But like, you know, this actually, you know, Rina's been in the news a lot lately. And so I think of Rina, I think of like when Rina was on Beverly Hills initially. And people complained that all Rina did was stir shit up with other people. But like her personal life was like not that interesting and who cares. Like, where's your personal story? I really am of the mindset.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Like, I, I like the, I'm most interested in the group dynamics of these shows. And if someone is helping move that forward and is playing an essential role with that, but we don't see that much of their life, I'm actually really okay with it, to be honest. You know, I vary. It depends on who we're talking about. I don't need to see Giselle's life. Like, I'm not somebody who's really requesting more scenes about Giselle.
Starting point is 00:28:12 But, you know, I think it's the fact that Giselle purposely comes on and just fucks with people for no. Like, she doesn't even have anything real. Like, I don't even believe half the shit she comes on with you to you. the stuff she comes on with to use against other people is even real half the time. Like the Stacey stuff, like she's trying way too hard to catch Stacey and some crazy TJ paid you to do something. You know, it's always some nonsense. And I think that she's trying really hard to turn the focus on everybody else instead of having
Starting point is 00:28:45 anything going on in her own life. And so I think that's why it bothers me with Jaze. And then to complain like that you don't have a package is just silly. You don't do anything to get a package. you know. I do, I do think Giselle is very guarded. I think, I guess for me, the reason why Giselle gets away with it is I find her to be very funny. And like, if she was funny,
Starting point is 00:29:01 it's like with Erica Jane, if you know. Yeah, like, with Erica Jane, I often am like, I'm like, you don't give us anything, which this past episode on Beverly Hills, she was actually extremely emotionally raw about what's going on in her life. But in terms of like, we never really see who her real friends are, yada, yada, yada. I've complained for years.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And it's funny because I'm sitting here saying like, oh, I don't necessarily need to see your life. But I think that like, if you offer something like you stir the pot or you're funny or you sort the pot. Actually, I think if you have to stir the pot and be funny, which I felt like Renna was. I feel like Giselle is. I'm more forgiving. I do agree.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Giselle does not give herself over very much. And it is funny. And then she's like shocked that she doesn't get a package where someone like Erica Jane is like part of this camp of like, you need to be open and honest, be honest, be honest. And yet doesn't show any of her life. That's where I get more frustrated. But I would say, you know, like it's. where we're talking about how it varies for different people, right?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Because like Erica, Erica's stuff with Tom was crazy, like seeing her life with Tom and all the glam and all the, you know, when she would tour around and do the concerts or whatever. Those were so weird and the gay bars that Tom would pay to feature her or whatever. Those were weird. And then there was time, you know, then she went through all of the scandal stuff. So they showed that her crying a lot. So she has had a lot of personal story years. I think that Erica, you know, is actually best as she is now, which is not really having that much of a storyline and just commenting on everybody else's stuff. I think she's found kind of her new groove in that way where she's just there being like, this is all fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:30:36 You know, she doesn't really... The Eric's new groove. Yeah, Erica got her groove back in a way. I think this is like a good group for her, actually. So I think some people it works for and some people it doesn't, you know. Yeah. But either way it was... Rina, too.
Starting point is 00:30:49 matter how I feel about Giselle, it was hilarious that she didn't get a package. And then she was really upset about it. And then when she tries to sort of wedge in her package, it shows why she didn't get a package because it's like, okay. So her daughter joined Alpha, you know, AKA, which is great. I have some great friends who are in. That's not your story though, you know. I know. It's like, exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:10 It's like, okay, her children are great. Great. Great. That's it. Okay. Like what else? I mean, did you, did you see any movies recently? Have you cooking cookies?
Starting point is 00:31:20 Give us something, okay? Rina has the best PR people of all time, by the way. She is literally like five stories a day are popping up about her because she was untradling. I mean, she is really working that. It's crazy. And her book came out, so she's doing publicity for that too. And that book, I don't know if you guys have read any pieces of it.
Starting point is 00:31:40 It is taking zero responsibility. I mean, it is so delusional. I mean, the font really speaks to her mind. It's just like crazy font. It's like Looney Tunes font. You know, it's Cuckoo. And she takes no responsibility and is still completely delusional about how everything went down there. And she blames the fans for everything.
Starting point is 00:31:58 She's like, I don't have any problem with the housewives. My problem was with the fans. They're what ruined it for me. And they're trying to make me out to be some villain. And I was never a villain. It was all the fans who did it and that nasty, toxic fandom, which we can be as a fandom, I'll say. He does have that right. But Bramette, come on.
Starting point is 00:32:15 You did that to yourself, girl, now. Yeah, she did. You know what it was? I think we all responded to Rina sort of losing an authenticity about herself on the show. Like we know there's like a Rina that we know and love. We saw it. It was back full force on the traders. That's like we love that Rina. It was the Rina that we have for many years. But we saw Rina who then got caught up in Link to Kyle and Doreet and Erica thing. And she just tried to choose. Honestly, I really feel like Rina started to just try to be cool and try to be in with them. And her just her vibe just changed. And she just, don't blame us. It's when she, yeah, she got with Erica.
Starting point is 00:32:52 They teamed up and they just started trying to do the take people down thing and like doing the logs and the, you know, finding everybody's gossip and coming out with, you know, that's when it started going downhill. Don't blame us. Jeez. We respond to things. We understand things. And ultimately, I think the Bravo fandom loves our Bravo liberties. And when I think when we, we get angry. when we feel like on some level
Starting point is 00:33:18 you have betrayed the pact that we have with you, which is that you're going to be you and we're going to be entertained by you. And the moment you're producing and the moment you're sort of like doing stuff that's like really not authentic to the show or to yourself, you're kind of breaking the pact that we have. And we get upset and we pick and we sniff it out.
Starting point is 00:33:37 We're sophisticated. Viewers of reality TV are sophisticated. And it gets the genre gets accused of being like lowest and lowest lowest common denominator. it's not and and we are sophisticated viewers and we understand things and we understand what we watch and we know and you can't bamboozle us so so well said well said all right stacey what about you i love how jazelle's package became about lisa rita that just just shows but shows how much you brought this season jazelle so stacey's like well i want to continue to be me and
Starting point is 00:34:10 not change and i want to say exactly the way that i am and all Also, I want to be more direct so that there aren't any misunderstandings within this group. And that's something I'd like to work on moving forward. But ultimately, I'd like to stay amazing. All right, Wendy. Well, I think in this new chapter of my life, I want to lead with kindness because whether we say it or not, we're all going through something. And the women were actually very kind to me.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Oh, you thought that'd be tougher on you? Yeah, I thought that'd be tougher. And, you know, people reached out. Monique has actually been a real champion for me and my children. She basically says everyone's been nice. And she even goes, and that includes you, old bunion feet, Ashley. Oh, yeah. Well, I do love you too.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And I hope you know, I want the best for you, Wendy. You know, I was petty. And I can acknowledge that. But that's not where my heart is. This is where my heart is. Strom in my pain with your finger. Okay, okay, okay. That's nothing bad.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Thank you. She should be locked up. All right. Well, we're. That's noise pollution. We don't do anything about it. That in this country? To celebrate 10 years.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Well, should we really be making fun of Wendy's prison term? No, Karen from backstage. We're going to celebrate 10 years of Potomac. Champagne, everyone. Oh, my gosh. It's really coming. And so they bring them all like a tiny bit of champagne. It's like, come on, guys.
Starting point is 00:35:40 What's our budget today? Are we all sharing one bottle? The hell. And Andy goes, thank you for 10 brilliant seasons. Let's take a selfie, which I will heavily filter, Angel, remember catfish? Catfish, catfish. You know, Angel's like, Wendy, stop saying that. I'd like Luan to come bring out a snack for Angel.
Starting point is 00:36:03 It is a catfish suckering the end of her hand. Straight season of Crappy Lake. So that was the end of that season of Potomac. You know, it was a good season. in it was definitely, I don't think it was the best, but it was very good and it was a lot better than the past couple of years have been. So congrats, Potomac on finding your footing because, God, I was worried there for a while. I was really glad to have this show back. I feel like it's 100% back in its, you know, like that's pre, for lack of a better word, pre-neka season, I don't like blame me. It's not Neca's fault. I'm just like, that's the way I can. That was the year. Yeah, that was the year when things suddenly went terribly wrong. So I feel like the show.
Starting point is 00:36:46 show is really, it's, it's, it's, I love it. The last amazing season, I think was, because there were, there were like five right in a row that were just yeah, amazing. Well, two through whatever it was when, um, what was their last amazing season? When Mia came on and it was the, uh, oh, really? Yeah, the hot box and, you know, George Hampton University. That was the last excellent one, right? Yeah. I was there one out with that. I can't remember which is, which is my favorite one. I agree. For me,
Starting point is 00:37:21 I think that was a last, like excellent one. And then it fell into crazy. Like, it fell off so bad. I felt so bad for the show. And then it was like the Michael Darby. It came back this year for sure.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Yeah. There was the Michael Darby, you know, hands like Hansy season. There was Wendy's first season, which was really good. But like, it's hard to,
Starting point is 00:37:40 I would have to like sit back and look to see. The best? I don't know the best. I'm just saying this is the best since that one. That was the last. best one if that makes any sense. I think, but how many seasons did Mia have on this show?
Starting point is 00:37:51 Did she do two or three? I think she had four or maybe, three or four? Okay, then Mia, I think that a couple of the seasons with Mia were really good. I could be wrong. Yeah, I think the first like two seasons
Starting point is 00:38:02 with Mia were good, but I don't know, like, I do think that Mia was not ultimately a good thing for the show because I thought she was really entertaining and really great at first, but I think ultimately, the show has been,
Starting point is 00:38:19 she's gone and the show suddenly got so much better. So do it as you wish. But with that being said, love it. Yeah, love it. Great season. Great season. Thank you to everybody who is with us this season.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Hopefully we'll see you on another soon. We'll miss you. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being here. We'll talk to you next time. Bye. Bye. Watch what crappins would like to thank its premium sponsor.
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