Watch What Crappens - #3255: Summer House S10E6: Hits and Missus

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

Bailey makes a tacky joke on Summer House, but was Ben’s reaction a bit aggro? Plus, West has a crush on Ciara (again). To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free li...stening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mantleker, joining me in Texas is the one and only Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Hello, how are you doing? I am thrilled. I'm in New York. Childhood bedroom time, guys. Look, there's the picture. There's the air conditioner.
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Starting point is 00:01:06 the new cast and we kind of also talk about the premiere episode. And then we also have video, which is a show. great and a newsletter. So all those fun things. So yeah, it's an exciting time here on Crappins. And then we're going off to, well, you're already in Texas. I'm going to come join you in Austin at the end of the week because we're going to go to the I Heart Awards next Monday. And fingers crossed, we win. But even if we don't, it'll be a super fun time. So if you're in South by Southwest, come say hi if you see us on the street. I think that's it. Ronnie, let's talk about the summer house episode because just as we were pressing record, you were saying,
Starting point is 00:01:43 saying this is a controversial one. And I haven't really been on the internet this morning. And I wanted to know, tell me what the vibe is that you're picking up on. Oh, I wasn't really on the internet. I was just saying it's controversial because, you know, you have a hot, plain person like Ben, who everybody's like, oh, my God, it's so hot. The audience is like, oh, my God, it's so hot. And then he inevitably has an episode where he's an asshole because it's Bravo. And so that's what happens. That's the trajectory of men on Bravo. So he had an episode where he was kind of an asshole. I mean, he wasn't completely wrong, but he was an asshole, I think, in how he went about it. And, yeah, so, yeah, so you just know it's going to be a controversy. Okay, good. I'm so glad to hear that. The reason why is because when I was watching the episode, I was like, you know, that Bailey's joke is pretty tacky. Like, that's just, she's not really, she doesn't know them in that way to be able to make that joke. Like, it was a bad joke. And, you know, I think he had a right to be annoyed and upset. But then when he was confronting her,
Starting point is 00:02:43 He wasn't yelling. He was being pretty even tempered, but there was something about it. I was like, this guy's kind of being a dick right now. Now, she also was like, she was like, she was like, oh, well, you guys were making that joke. So I made the joke. She wasn't, she wasn't really being the most like, oh, my, my bad, my bad. She did, but she wasn't the most. But I still left it kind of feeling like, God, that guy kind of felt like an asshole to me. I was like, he seemed just like, I was like, I feel like he unzipped and he like took out, his exterior came off. And we saw his inner asshole come out and all this talk about like, oh, I'm just so shy. I get so uncomfortable when people talk about that.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I'm attractive. I'm just a shy, nice guy. And then it's like, he had this like rage eyes. And I was like, is it just me? Did I pick up on that vibe? So it sounds like, sounds like you got that up too. You know what kind of bugged me about it is that he knows Bailey likes him. Like, everybody knows Bailey likes him.
Starting point is 00:03:38 It's not like she's subtle. And so I feel like there's a way that guys kind of treat. you when they find you attractive versus when they're not into it all. And it's like when they find you attractive, it's like kissing your ass. And then when they don't, it's like being mean. And I feel like he was doing that. It's like, I'm not attracted to you. So fuck off.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And he kept saying, well, what is what else is it about? Just tell me. Meaning obviously you like me in your jail. So just say that if that's the problem. And it just came off as gross. Like I didn't like how he, he dealt with it. And you're right. I mean, look, when you're watching Bravo and there's a man who's not
Starting point is 00:04:12 screaming in a woman's face. and calling her a bitch or something. It's like, oh, my God, what a gentleman in a way. Because we're watching Southern Charm, you know, their Southern hospitality, you know, there's stuff like that where it's like, wow, what a gentleman. He's not screaming in a woman's face. But, you know, there was something just kind of gross about how he handled it.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And also, like, you're a little too angry. And also, obviously, you do like Amanda. So that's weird. And you're, you know, you're flirting maybe. It's like Bailey's not completely wrong, I don't think. So, I don't know, fuck off, Ben. And also, another thing is, is that he's been dating someone this whole time anyway. He has a girl, he's a faker.
Starting point is 00:04:50 He has a girlfriend off the show. He's doing, he's pretending he's single to be on the show. So fuck off, man. Part of me feels like he's, he was angry, not because he secretly likes Amanda, but I think that maybe he's cultivating, like, a nice guy image. And when Bailey makes that joke, it implies that he's not such a nice guy because he's moving in on a married guy. wife and like well it's you know if you're not doing that if you're not moving in on a
Starting point is 00:05:16 married guy's wife like you have a right to be offended by that joke like stop saying that a national TV that I'm trying to like break up this marriage but there's part but like his reactions sort of made it seem like there was something else on his end he's asking what's this really about but it mad me asking what's this really about for you are you upset like that this is making you look like not a nice guy and you don't like that because you're trying to make America think you're a nice guy like something was off because I kind of felt like the normal reaction would be like, hey, Bailey, the joke that you made, it really made me uncomfortable because, you know, I would never do that. And I just would
Starting point is 00:05:51 please, I would love it if you just don't do that again. And she'd be like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. But instead he kind of came and, like, cross-examining her in a way that I thought, just, it rubbed me such the wrong way. And I felt like the rest of the episode, I couldn't look at him the same way. I was like, I feel like I've seen the real Ben now. And I see, to me, I like, see his eyes and I just see like meanness in his eyes now. Yeah. I didn't like him either. And yeah, that doubt,
Starting point is 00:06:20 death protest too much kind of thing. Like, uh-oh, you're kind of showing your ass by being this upset about it. But also the lying about having a girlfriend thing. I think that's a big part of it because he's got a girlfriend. So he's like, don't make it look like I'm trying to sleep with this other girl. You're going to piss the girlfriend off.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Then I'm pretending I don't have so I can be on this show to do basically nothing. Yeah. So I don't know. He's kind of a wet dishrag to me. And, um, he's not really that interesting. But now he's just kind of gross. Now he's been kind of mean. So by Ben. It just rubbed me the wrong way. Like I, and I hated, I have to say also I hated that like he just, he came at her really hard for the joke. Like it was again, it was, we're not defending the joke. But like he came at her hard. And then she's crying. And then she stays in. And I just felt like no one cared. And I thought that was shitty too. She and Levi was like a good friend. And she. Levi was like a good friend. And, like, like, he was like a good friend. And. And she. Levi was. And. Levi was. And. Levi was. And. And. Levi was. And. And she. Levi sacrificed valuable, you know, relationship building time with her roommates because they, you know, they barely have her on the show. And she stayed back with her friend. The two of them were in their bed. You know, there was like a perfunctory check-in by the girls. And then everyone just, like, left them. And it was just like never discussed again for the rest of the episode. And I kind of felt like that was shitty too. They were like the new kids. I think they don't know. I mean, in their defense, why am I defending this cast? But in their defense, I think that they just didn't really know because they were there for it. Like, he didn't do it. Mostly on this show. So you would confront somebody right at the table. But he waited and then went to her after alone and that no one heard screaming and yelling. So I don't think really anybody knew. They just thought, well, she made an ass out of herself at dinner and now she's crying because she got called out. I think it's how they're kind of probably looking at it like, okay, she's being a baby.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Which she kind of maybe what? I mean, you know, the other thing is like she's not completely, but she's not completely blameless. But then again, it's summer house and people say shit like that all the time. Like, why are you going to cry that someone's joking that you want to fuck Amanda? You're not the first one that they've joked that is in love with Amanda. So why are you acting like that? And grow up. You're on summer.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I mean, be more immature. You're on Summerhouse. You should be able to take this kind of a joke. Yeah. I mean, if it were Lindsay, Lindsay would be like, I'm not going to let this get the way of me having a fun time. Like Lindsay gone out. But I also understand Bailey. Bailey was in this like really like terrible relationship with a guy was super mean to her.
Starting point is 00:08:37 So, of course she's going to be like, I don't know. I just felt like, I felt like, I felt like they're just. was, you know, they clearly she stayed in, you know? And like, I just like, the next day, it just was like, no one was even like, how are you feeling today? How's it going? You're doing better. Like, no one cared. And I just thought that was so obnoxious. And maybe that did happen and the show didn't show it, which I also think was then maybe a bit of a miscarriage of Bravo justice because the show then was like, okay, now let's go back to focusing on West End Sierra, which is, you know, nominally interesting, you know, sort of interesting. You know, you see that.
Starting point is 00:09:10 But like I would much rather, I was much more riveted by the Bailey and Ben situation than I was about West. West who's just like quietly, you know, you know, undermine Jesse. I mean, Jesse undermined himself. Like, I'm not trying to make it seem like Jesse was like owed anything in the situation. But like West put out the word that he basically went and did like a like the game of Thrones, like the guy little finger or whatever. He undermined Jesse's shot at. Sierra and then he moved in. But anyway, I guess we,
Starting point is 00:09:44 well, we just get into it, shall we? Yeah, let's just get into. But also, ultimately, on the Bailey and Ben stuff, Ben, whatever. But Bailey is ultimately so much more entertaining than Ben that I don't care if she's wrong or not. What she did was not a capital crime. And I stand for Bailey because she's entertaining.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And Ben, you are not. So get out of here. You fucking boring ass. I agree. 100%. I really enjoy Bailey and Levi. I would like to see more Levi for the rest of the season. And I hope they're not sort of just like pushing her off to the side and we never see her again.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Well, this show, I mean, if you're not sleeping with somebody or trying to sleep with somebody on this show, they have no place for you. And that's just how this show has always been. That's, it's like, it's a, they pretend it's this show about friendship. It's not. It's a show about who you're going to fuck that summer. And if you're not going to do it, they're not going to give you any screen time, which is why West is pretending that he's still into Sierra. and Sierra is pretending that either of these guys would have a chance in real life with her
Starting point is 00:10:42 and that Jesse is pretending that he, because they know how to play it, you know. They know how to get their screen time. And I'm not buying it, by the way. And F-West. Okay, so Summer House, season 10, episode six, The Jokes on you? And we're still in the middle of this conversation
Starting point is 00:10:59 with Jesse and Sierra, where Sierra's basically told Jesse, like, shut your face. And she was sad how she was really upset by him. And he has his, like, super frowny face on, which is so funny when Jesse's super frowny. And he talks extra slow and, like, looks down. And he's like, oh. Did you see that video of the guy that went viral who's imitating Jesse? It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It's so good. He's like, hey, bad bong. And he just keeps him jumping on Sierra. He's like, hey, bad bong, bestie, bestie, we're just besties. Want to kiss. Want to kiss? It's so good. So talented.
Starting point is 00:11:41 He does a perfect imitation of Jesse. But yeah, Jesse, another person who does a perfect imitation of Jesse is the video game Sackboy. I don't know if you've ever played it, but when Sackboy loses a challenge, he frowns like that. It's like his face is like, boh. Yeah. I think that, like, everyone talks about how big Jesse's smile is, but the real star is his frown because his frown is so funny because it's so frowny.
Starting point is 00:12:06 It's like, it really is like a. video game character that's like awesome thing you know when you can assign an emotion to your me or something like that and he's just like uh and he's like well clearly there was a conversation here that needed to happen regardless of me saying this to west so i'm glad i'm having i'm like just spit it out so he's like okay she's like yeah i'm glad we're having it and he's like yeah so many jokes that i could I could make, but I'm not going to. She's like, yeah, yeah. Have some self-restraint instead of making jokes.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Thanks. Yeah, so they pound it out, not sexually, but fistily. And then hug. And now it's okay. So then we go to West and Jesse walks in and West is pretending like he was so worried about the conversation. He's like, oh my God. Did it go good?
Starting point is 00:12:58 Did it go bad? How did it go? It just, you know, it was fine. It ended up being fine, you know? And, like, at this point, Jesse has, like, what, put, like, a towel on his head or something? He's, like, hiding under, like, fabric. And Wes is like, oh, wow, what's happy? He's like, I just feel bad that, like, she's upset, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:19 It's like, that wasn't my intention. I just wanted to make out with her and then, like, joke and laugh and then, like, not do it again, you know? And West, ha-ha, West just got the entire house to do his dirty work for him. So he's like, yes. My little boy manipulation has won. It's very much like getting your little brother in trouble, you know, with your mom. Yep. He totally, like, West was like a sneaky operator in this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:13:47 He totally, I mean, I don't know whether I should be like, he's like snaky or I should be like, wow, I'm just impressed. That was a great manipulation of the house, you know? Like, I would love that on Survivor. If someone did that on Survivor, I'd be like, wow, great player. Well, he's loving because if he had gotten a. in a fight with Jesse about it, then Sierra would have been pissed at both of them and been like, oh, now you're fighting over me like I'm some prize, you know? So he kind of played it right where he just got everybody else to do the dirty work and he kept his hands clean, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:19 Yeah. Well, he got Lindsay to do it. He basically, he went entitled to Lindsay, and Lindsay's like, that's not all right. And he knew that Lindsay was going to go and like tell it to Sierra and not only tell it to Sierra, but tell it in the worst possible way to Sierra. And it, it was, It worked. It worked like a charm. Well, he got Lindsay finally, but he worked on that whole house. You give him credit. He worked on all the guys. He worked on him.
Starting point is 00:14:41 He was working it left and right. But it worked, you know. And Jesse's like, oh, attracted to Sierra. You know, she's a beautiful person. And, you know, I just, she doesn't want to be casual. And I just feel bad that I've misread that, you know. Like, I'm just so disappointed in myself. That was dumb.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah, poor Jesse. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crap and's commercial. Meanwhile, Mia is talking to Bailey about what they're going to wear tonight because it's Amanda's birthday party and they're going to be all formal and stuff. And K.J. needs to borrow a steamer. And then Bailey, after he gets a steamer, Bailey turns to Levi and it's like, oh my God, I was itching to know about KJ going on a date with Dara. I saw it on their Instagram. I already knew. I already knew. And Levi's like, yeah, you're a little investigator.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Yeah, I detected it. Because you know what? Two people in the same row at a concert, that doesn't feel like a coincidence. So they're talking about Ben. And she's like, moral of the story, it's Ben still single. So she thought Ben and Dara were viving last weekend. That's a sure thing, because he's Ben. Who doesn't want Ben?
Starting point is 00:15:54 But now that KJ is dating Dara, now she has a moment with Ben. So it's time to put my flirting skills to the ultimate test. And Bailey is still kind of annoying me with her theater kid, like, I am going to try to flirt now. This is my storyline. Yeah, her flirting. I'm going to put my skills to the ultimate test. And this is like one of those tests where the car goes flying off the cliff. Like, how does this car, how is it going to survive going off this cliff?
Starting point is 00:16:22 Guess what? It is also shattered to pieces. The test failed yet again. Yeah. So they're like, oh, my God, Bailey, if this is your weekend, if this happens, I'm going to go home smiling ear to ear. She's like, subalai, sister. So now everyone's getting dressed for this, what? Bad news for me.
Starting point is 00:16:40 She will not be smiling year to ear at the end of this weekend. No. No. So now they all get dressed for dinner. It's Amanda and Kyle are wearing this really weird pale yellow couples. Couples look. It's very like Lawrence Welke. And Kyle's like, hey, let me do a couple's photo tonight because we've not done a couple's photo all the long. We gotta get a photo in there.
Starting point is 00:17:06 And Amanda goes, I look fucking fabulous, which was like our opening song for the crappies. How about that? And then they take their picture, and everyone's like, oh my God, you guys look so good.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Oh my God. And then Ben and Amanda take a photo. And then they all sit for dinner. And they're having, like, martinis. It's a fancy dinner. Everyone's dressed up. And it's nice and classy. And Amanda's like,
Starting point is 00:17:29 thank you guys for getting dressed up, Kyle. and Kyle's toasting to her being 34. I'm like, by the way, I'm so glad that she's 34 because she saw us so much ahead of her. So much. I forget how young Amanda is sometimes. So, like, good for you, Amanda.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You got out when the getting was good. So much head ahead. So Jesse is thanking Sierra for the dinner. And Amanda's like, oh, my God, next weekend we'll have a full-on party for Kyle's birthday. But for me, this is just, what I wanted. A simple dinner at home with my friends. And Bailey is like, does anybody else miss Carl?
Starting point is 00:18:11 Not really. No, I didn't even realize he was gone until she said that. Ha, I'm in the mix in spirit, in spirit, but I'm mixing some soft drinks in Brooklyn instead. So Kyle's like, all right, listen, as much as he'd want to be here, he got such a tight timeline to get that thing open. I mean, you saw it right, Ben, you went to see it. it. And Ben's like, I did see it. It's still pretty raw, right? It's still pretty raw. And Carl's like, I am still pretty raw. But Lindsay was nice to me last weekend. So there's hope. It's a word. So Ben's like, now, listen, I mean, he's got the main bar in. He's done a phenomenal job. Says a lot of things about some sort of good guy clause. He's putting a lot of time and effort. And he's opening soon, soft launch. And, you know, I was asking about the investors and who's helping.
Starting point is 00:19:02 and Jesse you got involved, didn't you? He's like, yes, I didn't invest. And Kyle's like, all right, all right. I know where this is going. Look, I joined the advisory board. My advisory said, I'm bored. Get it, everyone? No, but seriously, it's going to fail.
Starting point is 00:19:17 It's soft drinks. I mean, it's like you just go to 7-Eleven. But no, seriously, though. Carl did ask me to invest, and I said, point blank, I just cut half a million dollar check to Loverboy to literally meet my payroll. So I told Carl, look, bro, I love you. It's not personal, but I literally am on the hook financial for my entire business.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I literally cannot pay for another single thing, and you won't see anything else for the rest of this dinner. That would indicate that I could afford anything else. Thank you very much. I was on the advisory board, though, and my advice was put alcohol in these drinks. These drinks suck. Also, I'm not giving you any money. And Jesse's like, but he invested in lover boy, right? He's like, yeah, I mean, back in the day, back in the day, a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:19:57 You know, he put 15 grand in, you know, a long time ago. It was a really long time ago. So it's totally different. But if I did it do, Brandon, and just want to remind everyone, I paid his salary for a few years there, even when he was high on Coke and messing up meetings. But anyway, yeah, what was your point again, Ben? Say, please. What do you think about this? I think Kyle should have actually support.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I think Kyle should have put some money into software. I think it would have been the right thing to do. I know he's on the hook. I know he just put in a million dollars. do another DJ gig. I don't know. I kind of feel like, I get it.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I probably think in Kyle's mind, he's sort of, in the back of his mind, he's like, this is probably not the best idea. And also, you know, yes,
Starting point is 00:20:44 yes, he gave me $15,000, but I did put him on my payroll for a few years. I kept him, I kept him going when things were falling apart for him.
Starting point is 00:20:52 So he's probably thinking that, but that's it, at least put in like $5,000 or something. I don't know. I think it's, it is your best. friend. But then again, as someone noted online, maybe this is Kyle's revenge for being demoted down to Flower Boy in the wedding. Oh, gosh, it all goes back to Flower Boy. Jeez. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:21:14 I think that he's under no obligation to put money into Carl's stupid business, okay? But I do think, you know, they are friends. Maybe he should have. But yeah, I do look at it from the point of view of, listen, Carl was unemployable. He was drinking. He was doing coke. He was a mess. That man employed him and gave him a job and not only just a cushy salary, but also the traveling around, the doing all the events and all of that stuff. So I think Carl more than earned that back. He more than got that back, probably enough to like invest in his own business, like leave that job and invest in his own business. So I think I think that yes, Kyle should have invested. I do as a mensch. Yeah. But I think what's bothering me about it is Carl turning to get into another Carl
Starting point is 00:22:02 victim storyline because if somebody else just said, hey, did Kyle invest? And Carl said, no, no, but he's, you know, he's busy or whatever. And then they said, Kyle, that's not cool that you didn't invest. That would be one thing. But it's that Carl's like, well, you know, it really hurt me that I'm invested in Kyle's business. And Carl didn't invest mine. It's like, you want your friend to... It's like, shut up, Carl. Just shut up, Carl.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Like, how much have you gotten from your relationship with Kyle? So that's what bugs me about it. But I do agree that Kyle should have invested. Yeah, I'm like, I think we're totally, totally in sync on this one. Like, if you really think about it, I think that probably what Kyle is saying, but doesn't want to see on camera because he already always looks so bad when he comments on these things, which is like, bro, I've put a lot of money into Carl. I put a lot of money into Carl, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:51 But it isn't the irony rich here that Ben is inserting himself into this complicated dynamic of these two that he really doesn't know very well. And yet he gets really mad at Bailey for then essentially doing the same with her joke. Oh, I'm sorry, don't bring the check because it's already been checked. I know it's not exactly the same, but I'm waving the waitress away. I'm like, we got the check. We got the check. We already got it. I'm angry.
Starting point is 00:23:19 It's not a perfect, you know, comparison. But, you know, when I feel like a guy's being an asshole to a girl on these shows, sometimes I don't care. Justice, this is, you're in my court now. And I'm making a loss. You just, you just got dismissed. So Amanda's like, well, Kyle, you didn't invest in software at all. Did you?
Starting point is 00:23:43 And Kyle's like, no, but I shared his crowdfunding campaign. Hello, I'll. You shared his crowdfunding campaign. If Carl wants me to write a check for 15 grand, okay, fine. I'm just like, well, I just think he's upset. You were initially going to invest, and then you pulled out, and then he sees you doing all these DJ gigs. I mean, you know, you're making money.
Starting point is 00:24:05 And, you know, Carl's like a sensitive guy. It's about, like, sentiment, you know. It's not like finances. And Kyle's like, I feel blindsided. I'm blindsided. Yeah, you know, maybe I could not have been more. clear you know financially i can't do a lover boy laying people off you know instead of firing people you know i didn't i didn't support kyle and bought my wife a $15,000 watch instead
Starting point is 00:24:29 yeah exactly so kyle's like i mean if i'm putting more money into my business than he's putting into his then he should understand literally literal financial implications and jesse's like yeah it sounds like you guys should have a conversation it's between you two yeah it is between the two of them which is funny why then therefore you and Ben have chimed in, which is also very Carl, and it's very west too, is to sort of like air it out to the other guys and hope it gets back to Kyle. So I'm sure that's what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:24:59 That's what he's doing. That's what bugs me about the whole thing. Well, I think Kyle is in the wrong here. I'm on Kyle's side because Carl is just so fucking annoying with his victim complex every season. And every season, it's like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:25:11 Carl's so different now. No, he's not. No, he's not. now his filter is just back up. So he's better at it. So Jesse is like, all right, guys, everybody has to say one nice thing about Amanda.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Guacamole. Guacamole. Guacamole. Guacamole. Guacamole. On the line. Yeah. West is like,
Starting point is 00:25:33 Amanda, since I've known you, you've like accomplished like so many big things from where you were. Like you said you were going to start a bikini line for women with big boobs. and like you've done such a great job coming up with the fonts for that.
Starting point is 00:25:47 So good job with that. You got dogs. You got dogs. I heard that you got that 10th punch in your subway rewards card. So congrats on that. Cool sub. Yeah. And you've been out of your shell.
Starting point is 00:26:01 And it's just like so fun to like what you do shit, non-specific shit. And she's like, that was so nice with things. So Mia's like, you know. know, sometimes people try to fit into a mold. And by mold, I mean, tiny bikini tops. But you broke that, Amanda. She's like, oh, my God, thanks so much. And then he's like, well, I'm a big eyes and a smile guy.
Starting point is 00:26:30 So I love. And Bailey's like, I was going to say, Ben's going to talk about how he wants to definitely sleep with you. And then everyone's like, awkward. And Bailey is like, like, definitely knew he was going to go. I laughed. I mean, it was funny because it does sort of feel that way. And Ben looks so mad.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And everyone's like, oh, my God. What the hell? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I know the story. I know. And then West's like, oh, my God. What the hell?
Starting point is 00:26:55 Oh, my God. Oh, Ben's like, oh. And Bill's like, okay, never mind. Zip it. She keeps doing this thing like, I'll zip my mouth. Zip it. Zip it. Zip it.
Starting point is 00:27:03 So Ben's like, well, like I was saying, I'm a big smiling eyes guy. And I like the way you can walk into a room and you can brighten it with your while and everyone loves it, then that's where I was going. Thank you, Bailey. He's like, all deflated when he says it now. He's like, yeah, like it was such an original thing to say. Like, wow, I'm saying you're beautiful. In some, in a moment where everybody's like, Amanda, here's what I love about your personality, your heart, your determination, your will to make things happen for yourself and gets to Ben. He's like, you're hot. He's like, damn, but I didn't get to finish that properly.
Starting point is 00:27:37 It feels sort of like he's just recycling lines from what he had to say at a bachelor. Yeah. Well, it's like you light up the room with your smile. I'm being vulnerable right now. It's like, what a shallow ass answer anyway. So Bailey wasn't really that far off. So Baylor's like, sorry. Jeez. And Carl says, all right, man, you got the floor, man. You got the floor. Okay. Well, you're hot. So Kyle's, Ben's deflated. So Kyle's like, this group stuff, man, jelling you. He's like, what the fuck just happened? He's like, I'm so mad now. And Bailey's like, oops, never mind, sorry. I don't know, sorry. We'll stop a, blah, no, no, no. So they, um, the dessert is going to be coming up soon. And Kyle's like, well, while they're going to the dessert, I'm going to cut the cheese. Ha!
Starting point is 00:28:24 And then also, I'm going to get a card. Okay, here's a card. Look at this. And they're like, oh my God, Cartier, Cartier. So Amanda reads the card out loud. And she's like, oh, my God, Kyle, you did not. This is a little something to keep forever, but we also have 30 days to upgrade and swap. it. Oh my God. L.O.L. Kyle.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yeah, you're giving you not something that comes naturally, but, you know, Paige isn't here to buy something with my credit card for Amanda. So I had to do it. Yep. On the heels of him saying he couldn't afford one dime for Carl's company. He also gives a Cartier watch to his wife. Now, of course, wife comes before Carl, always. But it is just hilarious that he's like crying poor, but then also making a grand presentation of a Cartier watch. Yeah, but awkward timing on that one, for sure.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I say buy your wife something over Carl. You know, the wife has to put up with you. And also, it's just such a guy who's cheating and doing the wrong thing, gift as well. It's like, well, here's some really expensive jewelry. Don't look over there. You know, don't
Starting point is 00:29:32 go through my DMs. Yeah, exactly. So we see a flashback to four summers ago, where Kyle tells Amanda the gift giving gives him anxiety. Yeah, it's tough for him. And he's like, yeah, I really struggle. But like, considering this summer that we're having, it's mission critical that I nail this.
Starting point is 00:29:54 It's like, wow, it's mission critical. So Kyle did the one thing he never thought he'd be able to do. Simply listen to Amanda when she says she wants something and then buy it for her. Wow. Amazing. Yeah. It's like, oh, my God, it's so pretty. And everyone cheers. It's a little avocado watch.
Starting point is 00:30:11 They're like, Kyle, Kyle, Kyle, I want to dance a little bit in Club Send It, and then we can go. So now they go to Club Send it. And Amanda calls her mom, what did you say? AKA the living room. The living room. And Amanda calls her mama to tell her and say, oh, my God. Kyle, really? Mr. Kyle, got you something.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Wow. Your husband finally did the bare minimum. After being with you for 10 years, he got you a gift. Wow. We! And Amanda says, I asked him for the watch as a joke because I know it's expensive, and this man doesn't spend money on anything. He won't even buy himself new underwear. So the fact that he went to the store and picked out the watch and put it on his credit card, like, that's, he did good. She's just, I feel bad that she's just so impressed with the simplest, you know, attentiveness to her wants. Although, inexpensive attentiveness to her wants in this case,
Starting point is 00:31:07 I guess it's not that simple. But the point is that he listened for once. And she's like, oh, my God, he finally listened to something that I said. After 10 years of not getting any gifts. It's like, you get a gift. And it's like, oh, my God. Everyone's throwing him a parade in the street. So now, um, Sierra, you know, goes to say hi or whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Everybody's all partying in the club. And Ben, meanwhile, stewing in club send it. And he's like, God damn it. And West says, that was crazy. I mean, on her birthday in front of her husband, she even says, even said that and so west was like yeah i was crazy like remember when bailey was like oh i knew you were going to say you were going to fuck amanda and we were like what the fuck well i don't know what's going on that was the weirdest fucking circle of saying something nice about anyone someone i've ever been
Starting point is 00:31:54 involved in my life my experience is that when you say that you're a big eyes and big smile kind of guy everyone gets quiet and starts to cry right away so the fact that i was interrupted in my beautiful moment has me really steamed yeah no everyone else was like What did she just say? I mean, I don't know. There's something going on there. Obviously, I'll just need to fucking find out what's going on. They're like, go get her. So I'm going going. Yeah, I'm going to find out what's going on by walking into a room and being agro. So then Sierra, Amanda and Levi are just like hanging out. And Amanda's like, Amanda's like,
Starting point is 00:32:25 Amanda's joking, like Bailey's in love with Ben. And Levi's like, yeah, I think so. And she says, yeah, I think she just gets really nervous by him. And Amanda's like, yeah, because that comment was like, Oh, girl. And even Levi was like, yeah. I mean, obviously, she's joking around and it's like lighthearted, but it's just not a good way to flirt. I mean, I tell her to this to her face all the time. It's just not flirting, but unfortunately, she's always sticking her face into a sweet greens bowl. So it's hard to get through to her sometimes.
Starting point is 00:32:54 So then the boys are still going on about it. And Jesse's like, wait, like, why does it upset you so much, though? He's like, because it's the second time. She's done it. And then we see a clip of her saying, oh, my God, he's hitting on a mandate. again. Ben loves Amanda. So Ben's like, she keeps saying it. So obviously, something's going on and don't talk over the top of me. I just don't like it when people talk over me anyway. I mean, everyone's saying something and you talk over the top of me and saying, I want to fuck my mate's
Starting point is 00:33:21 missus. And then they all start cracking up. And Wes is like, oh my God, can you believe that guy has an accent? Whoa, that was so funny. It was like a cartoon, a cartoon featuring people with accents. Yeah, he said, Mrs. It's so Australian. And they're just like cracking up in his face. Ben's like all angry and they're just like laughing at him. He's like, well, I can't deal with you guys.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I know that I've been treating Amanda differently than everybody else, but that's because she's in the friend zone. And I can be myself. I can be flirted without thinking that I'm making any moves or hitting on you. Basically, so when she said that, it kind of threw me off a bit. It's kind of like, oh shit, does it, does shit look like that? is everybody thinking that, oh, you have to get to the bottom of this now. So if I'm doing something, which everyone's thinking, I need to stop that today.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And the way I stop that behavior is by going in and getting mad at Bailey. But you just said in your own monologue that she's in my friend zone and I can be myself, I can be flirty without you thinking I'm making. So you're saying you're being flirty. You're being flirty. You just said it. So if someone jokes about it, it shouldn't be that big of a deal, you know. So he goes upstairs.
Starting point is 00:34:33 and she's getting ready. Then, meanwhile, the guys are like, Oh, my God, he has an accent. Oh, haremus in their minds. And then, so Bailey and Ben, so Ben walks into her messy-ass room, and he's like, Bailey. And he's barely disguising his disdain for all the stuff that's around. And Bailey's like, oh, geez, what, what, okay, go ahead, what.
Starting point is 00:34:58 And he's like, so what's going on? And he's, like, staring at her with, like, Veloceros, raptorize, like in this really cold, penetrating way, you know? And she's like, oh. So she's like, so what's going on? She's like, in life? And it's like, weird. You're the one who walked in here.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Why are you asking her what's going on? Just start talking. Just say what you need to say. Be done with it. And so it gets more and more awkward. I'm just like, what? Well, I'm just trying to figure out where you hits at because at dinner, saying that I wanted to fuck Amanda.
Starting point is 00:35:28 She goes, I was just joking because you guys tell that story about how would you bet you both were naked and skinny dipping. and then you always joke about how like you would if you could. He goes, actually, no, we've never joked about what if I could. And I think it was rude. She's like, okay, well, I apologize if it's not my joke to make. Okay, well, is there something else going on? Because this is the second time.
Starting point is 00:35:49 So it's a joke. She goes, yeah, it's a joke. I mean, you joke about it a lot. Like, I'm not going to pretend I wasn't hopping on. I mean, it's your joke. Which they don't really joke about it. I've never heard that joke. I kind of feel like at this point, Billy should say,
Starting point is 00:36:02 I know it was a bad joke. It got away from me. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done it. And she should have just sort of stopped there. But she was kind of defensive about this. And I was like, I'm on your side in this overall in the situation, Bailey, but I didn't love how defensive you were because you did kind of mess up on this one. So Ben is like, well, you know, did you think that it was appropriate when we're all saying something nice about her for the birthday to fucking yell that out and say Ben wants to fuck a man to eat the table? And at this point, I'm like, oh, now you're being a dick, being condescending. Did you think that was
Starting point is 00:36:33 inappropriate. Like, okay, sir. She just, I mean, it wasn't the best apology, but she did just apologize. And now you're being, like, now you're going to start being a dick about it. She's like, well, I didn't say, Ben wants to fuck Amanda. I didn't say the F word. I mean, that didn't come out of my mouth. And he's like, okay, well, you sleep with her. Okay, big difference. She goes, but you make the joke a lot. And he goes, no, we don't about sleeping with each other. And she's like, but then how would I know about that? And he's like, I mean, it was skinny dipping. We went skinny dipping.
Starting point is 00:37:04 All right. That's a difference. Can you not see the difference between skinny dipping one time in Italy at a wedding with all your friends? And I'm in love with her slash want to sleep with her. Are you kidding me? And she's like, well, okay. Well, the way you joke about it is loose. You know, I didn't make it up.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I didn't think like, oh, my God, they're having an affair. But he does flirt with her. Obviously, there's a story of them swimming naked in a pool. He makes her coffee when she wakes up in the morning. Where's my goddamn coffee? she's getting out of the pool. He makes sure she has a towel. Her husband could be doing all these things. Like she should be picked up and spun around by Kyle. Just saying it's weird. I was like, you know, not terrible points that she's making, I have to say. Like, I do think it was not really her joke to make. She just doesn't, she doesn't know them as well. But it is weird that he's like making her coffee. That's a, that's very love island coded. Okay. And offering her the towels. He's doing little niceties for Amanda that he's not extending to the other girls in the house, specifically Bailey. So, And that is, like you pointed out, that is reality show code for what you're sewing for. So it's not that she's wrong.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I think it's just that she, obviously, as she just said, like, where's my fucking coffee? You know, like, she likes Ben. So she is annoyed that Ben is flirting with. Yeah. She feels rejected. And on top of that, I do think that he has been trying to manufacture some sort of, like, nice guy in it. He really, his whole thing, this whole season was, I know. I'm hot, but I'm actually really shy.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And I'm uncomfortable with all this attention I get from the females. And actually, I think that she has unwittingly just poked a giant hole in that, and he doesn't know how to handle it right now. So, he says, well, I don't think
Starting point is 00:38:45 that you're joking. I think there's something else going on. I don't know what it is, because it's not funny, and I don't think you're trying to be funny. So this is where I got because I feel like he's saying, like, obviously you like me, just say you like me. Like you're jealous. less, but he won't say it. And it's just gross. It's gross. It's a gross way to handle it.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And she's like, no, there's nothing. And if there was, I would say something. And he's like, well, you have been saying things and that's what I'm saying. It's uncomfortable. She goes, okay, but you joke about it all the time. And he's like, okay, look, just I'd appreciate it. If you don't do it anymore, Bailey, all right, that'd be great because it's got nothing to do with you. And she's like, okay, I can respect that. Fine. And he stands at this point. He had sitting on her bed, which, and there's stuff on her bed and stuff all on her floor. So he stands up to leave, and she's saying what you said. She's saying like, okay, I respect that. And she goes, hey, look at me. I'm talking. And he goes, sorry, I'm just stepping over your stuff. I want to get
Starting point is 00:39:41 out of here, which was like his cold way of being like your messy ass room. I'm just trying to get out of this hovel, you call a bedroom. Okay, now I can look at you because now I'm not distracted by the fact that I may trip and fall to my death over this pile of laundry. at the base of your bed. Then don't come into my room. Yeah, seriously. So she's like, well, you can't even, you can't storm in here and be like, well, I didn't leave.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Like, I'm trying to answer for it. And he goes, well, you're not making sense. I ask you the same question. You give me some bullshit answer. Like, it's a joke and it's not a joke and it's not funny. And you don't talk to anyone else like that. And she's like, well, okay, I took an inside joke that you guys had too far. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:20 He goes, apology accepted. All right, bye. See you out there. And he leaves all pissed off. And Mia has been listening this whole time. And Bailey goes to the bathroom and she's like, oh, she cries. And I fully expected that in the second half of the episode, they would probably go to Apology Beach or something like that. Apology Dune, sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And he'd be like, sorry, last night. I was really steaming mad. I knew you were really upset. You didn't come out with us. It wasn't my intention to ruin you and all. I just, I was upset myself and I've cooled down. I really like you. But I just was really upset by that because I would never do that.
Starting point is 00:40:53 In such an infraction of my character and I get very defensive about that because when I was younger, one of me best. mates he also took one of my girls and I never would want to do with it I thought it'd be a whole thing and it never happened it was just like oh well whatever I thought he was gonna like feel bad for how intense he was because again he wasn't yelling he was he was sitting there being pretty calm but he was just so direct and his fury was so potent that it made I think all of us feel uncomfortable especially Bailey who was on the receiving end of it right there in that room So then Jesse's gossiping with Amanda. He's like, oh my God, dude, Ben was so mad.
Starting point is 00:41:32 He was so mad. He was so mad he had an accent. He always has an accent. No, but it was like the funniest accent. Yeah, but I mean, it was weird, you know, because like, that was the second time she said something. And, you know, Ben is just, Ben and I just brush it off. And he goes, yeah, well, she was, he was pretty heated this time. She's like, I mean, at a table, I mean, it was uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I guess. It was uncomfortable. So now Sierra and KJ are on the couch and Mia comes in like, Oh. Oh. I love Mia. Mia. Mia's great. She's so great. So Sierra's like, uh-oh. Mia found some tea. Look at her. Mia got some tea. And Mia's like, child, child. And Sierra's like, did he say something to her up there? And Mia's like, bitch, he could, he just confronted her. He was like, you were trying to be funny, but I don't really think it was funny. And so I was like, and that was it.
Starting point is 00:42:28 That's how it ended. And she goes, he stormed off. And so I was like, I like Ben. Ben's got anger issues. I like that. And she's like twirling her hair, like jokingly. Like, ooh, I like this. And she's like, I mean, she's like, yeah, I like it.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Now, I mean, if I'm talking to you, don't storm off. But I like that you can storm off. And so he comes back down. And West is like, whoa, what's that mate? Are you solid mate? Sorry, that's funny. Did you just tell off a. Mrs. Well, I said, and she apologized, she said, sorry, so I'm moving on, as you can tell,
Starting point is 00:43:04 by the continued rage in my eyes right now. Just one last little vent, and it was it. I was like, yeah, you may it sound like it was just like, hey, didn't love that joke. And she said, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Yeah, can we just not do that again? Totally, totally respect your boundaries. Okay, love you. That was not what the conversation was. So then we go to Bailey and Levi, and, you know, Bailey comes out crying. And Levi's like, oh, my God. God, you're out of your outfit? You're not coming out? What happens?
Starting point is 00:43:30 Why are you not coming out? I mean, Ben stormed out. Was he mad about the comment? It was so clearly a joke. I mean, it was just a joke. I mean, I feel like one of the guys could have said that and everyone would have laughed. I'm right? Am I right?
Starting point is 00:43:41 And she's like, yeah, if Jesse said it, it would have been fine. Right. Actually, by the way, I do think that if Jesse said it, they would have been like, oh, Jesse. Yeah. I think it's clearly because she likes him. Mm-hmm. And he doesn't like her. And he doesn't like her back, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:56 And so, yeah. Yeah. And so Levi's like, well, because I think that she made the joke, but what made it uncomfortable was his reaction, not the joke, if that makes any sense. So Levi, Levi's like, oh, my God, you have to come out. And Bailey says it was a disproportionate response. You know, a man has not yelled at me since my ex-boyfriend, and he was horrible and he would break my shit. And he was really mean to me. And he was purely toxic.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Okay. Well, I can see how that would, you know. be triggering. He didn't really yell or throw your things and stuff. That's kind of taking it to a different level. And she even says that. Yeah, but I can see how, you know, just having any confrontation with a guy would be like, like, uh, like, where's it going to go? Yeah. Yeah. And so she says, and Ben wasn't doing anything that I would say it wasn't anyway similar to the things that I've experienced, but just the situation of the confrontation just really puts me in a horrible place. So Bailey is like, the fact that I tried to apologize and he's like, I'm confused. There's a bigger thing. There's a bigger thing. There's a bigger thing. What's the bigger thing? Okay. Confusion on my part. Sorry. I'm like, well, you didn't really, like, you sort of like nominally apologized. And you do know that there is, I mean, you do like him. There is a bigger thing. But either way, I'm still on Bailey's side on this because I just think that Ben was a real dick about the whole situation. So now people are stolen, fucking club send it. I can't. And then Mia goes to Ben and Sierra is saying, well, do you think Bailey's sad right now? And he's like, oh, I don't know, is she? I don't want her to be said. That's why we're going to not go up there and be like, hey, I don't want you to be crying. He just stays down there. Oh, I don't want her to be sad. Anywho, back to dancing.
Starting point is 00:45:35 So Sierra and Mia go check on her. And then Amanda's like, but now I want to come to you. So they all go to the bed and check on her. And Bailey's like, well, I hated having a guy yell at me. That's how I am. And they're like, yeah, that was pretty awkward. She goes, I'm sorry, Amanda, if my joke hurt your feelings too in any way. I really was joking.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I'm sorry if I upset you. I just, I have no problem apologizing if I do something wrong. I'm saying, I have really, thanks, skin. I don't care. I mean, I could see how uncomfortable it made Ben, but I don't really care. She goes, yeah, I don't give a shit about Ben. I'm sorry. Then Jesse knocks the door.
Starting point is 00:46:10 He's like, hey, babe. Hey, fellow bedbugs. We're going to go to Murphs. But I'm assuming some people are staying behind. And everyone's like, no, we're going to come. Bye. Bye, Bailey. Have a great night.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Bye, Bailey, I guess. And the other girl who sticks with, who's that girl who's in that bed with you all the time? You're going to stay back too, right? Okay. Bye, guys. Bye, current, Danielle and Bailey. We'll see you later. Commercials.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Here comes one right now. So Ben goes to the kitchen and compliments that it's the cleanest he's ever seen it. The kitchen's like, thank you, love you. He's like, please stop sledding with me. Thank you so much for that. And I look forward to remaining this clean for the rest of the evening. Thank you. Thank you. See you at 2 a.m. So Bailey's like, oh, my God, now you're stuck with me. I'm so lame. You don't have to be stuck with me. God, I'm just staring at my phone and crying.
Starting point is 00:47:06 She's like, oh, I'm not stuck with you. I love this. This is great. And then Bailey just goes back to scrolling on her phone. Levi's just sitting there like, well, this is glad I stayed. Just need to support her. She needs support while she scrolls X. Yeah, I'd be here. Wasted outfit. Great. But that's a good friend right there, that Levi. See, this is, I think, why I like her. There's something about her. I just really. I think she's funny. She's a loyal friend. And I like that it's like an authentic friendship. It's not,
Starting point is 00:47:32 um, it's not like trying to be, to recreate like the page and Hannah or page and Sierra thing, even though it sort of is, but like it's authentic. So I like it. I don't know why I keep on like, building a case for why I like.
Starting point is 00:47:44 I know. You're really stumping for, for, uh, Levi. I mean, she's, she's fine. I don't,
Starting point is 00:47:50 I don't, she doesn't really do anything. It's like, it's like complimenting, you know, I'm trying to, think of something that supports. She got a black guy from a goat. And I think that does a lot. Yeah, I mean, I like her too. So then West dances. This is fine. So everyone's dancing and stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And so West and Sierra are now like kind of dirty dancing or whatever. West is straddling her. And she's like, okay, well, here's the thing about West. Like when he sits on you, he has a crush. And he sat on me because I remember one time he sat on me was when he had a crush on me. And fast forward to now, now he's sitting on me. Like, he totally likes me. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's, I'm so glad to hear that.
Starting point is 00:48:36 If he says, why now? I'm like, because you just started talking to him again. Yeah. You literally just gave the green flag again, like last week. So, of course, now. He couldn't before. Other evidence that West likes you, the fact that he follows you around like a puppy dog and basically said, I'm still in love with Sierra. So then they're dancing.
Starting point is 00:48:56 stuff and Jesse is like, yeah, West and Sierra are getting flirty. Really happy for them. Really happy. Jealous? Not this guy. No. So now Sierra and West are in Kyle's bed. And Kyle's like, oh, that's nice. And she's like, I'm going to go see if the buffalo chicken dip is ready. So he's about to scroll. But then he starts talking to West. He's like, oh my God, that was awesome, bro. You guys were totally flirting. Yeah, are you talking about me and Sierra? I know, like, I don't know what to do. It's just like, we hate each other for like three weeks.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And then it's like, oh my God, I looked up and like, dude, they're like fucking vibing. Like, you guys are reviving. I know, I know. God, crush is not the word I would use. It's not a crush because we aren't friends during the day, you know? I guess maybe you don't need that for a crush because like you can fall in love in the club. There's a song about it, you know? Because like, it's like an incident an after hours crush or like a PM crush or like,
Starting point is 00:49:54 I'm just a little boy crush. a late night crush, a sunset crush, a breakfast crush, a lunch crush. It's what is. I'll tell you what it is. It's a boring crush at this point. I think that's the best way to describe it. It's an I need attention on a TV show crush. I'm not buying this, sir. I've never bought it from West. And his whole like, oh, wow, just a boy who doesn't understand girls. What? Just take a page from the one and only Jennifer page who once saying, It's just a little crush. Don't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:50:27 So, Sierra... The lyrics. See, that's all you. It walks back in. She's like, what are you two idiots talking about? So now everybody gets ready for bed and Amanda's sitting on Kyle's lap because she got to watch. He's like, well, I'm so glad it's surprising. She was so special, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:50:45 I was not expecting that. You know, we had a rough start to the summer. We needed this, like a huge cyber release. I do love her and I haven't felt disconnected with her and God knows how long and just make me extremely happy. And this is funny because every season of Summer House starts like this where the first, you know, six episodes, they fight viciously and you think, oh, this relationship's falling apart. And then they have a turning point and then Kyle goes, well, it's sorry enough rough, but now we're back on on the right path. But what's funny is that I think he thinks it's the right path. But we know she's going to be like, this watch was great. Thanks. I'm still going to leave you this time. This is it.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And also, Kyle, it's very typical of Kyle and when he's happy with Amanda. I mean, yes, the watch was in play. I get that. So Amanda was happy with him for that. But Kyle wasn't happy just because she was happy about the watch. Kyle was happy because she was out wasted and partying. That's when Kyle likes Amanda. When she actually goes out and she gets shit-faced with everybody and she parties all night,
Starting point is 00:51:40 that's when Kyle likes Amanda. He doesn't like the rest of it. So he's like, wow, we're back on the right track. Amanda came out and got shit-faced tonight on her birthday. I've made no effort. I've changed nothing. But look, she's drunk. So we're on the right bath again.
Starting point is 00:51:55 We did it. Nailed it. Nailed it. So West and Sierra are eating buffalo chicken dip in the kitchen. And Wes is asking her if she's having fun. And she goes, are you having fun? She goes, what? Are you having fun?
Starting point is 00:52:08 She goes, you mean as a whole or tonight? He's like, uh, any, are you, just in any possible way? Or did you play like a good app today? Yeah. Like, did you do word? I don't know. Do you have some sort of fun in some capacity? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:22 She's like, what are you talking about? And he whispers to her. And he's like, look, it's just, I just don't even know how to talk to you, okay? Like, like, God, like, I don't know how to talk to you if I'm being honest. And she goes, I feel like I've perfectly designed it that way. He's like, correct. But like, I don't know what to do before filming or after. Like, I want to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:52:49 And so she's basically like, yeah, you know, flirting, having fun, drunken super is great. But like in the sober daylight, a conversation where like I have to put my guard down and be vulnerable. Like, yeah, I'm not going to do that. I just, and she says, I just don't think that I trust you or your intentions or your interactions. So like, have my guard up. He's like, yeah, it's my fault. She's like, what? He goes, I just, I don't know what it's correct for you.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I'm a little boy and don't like it. Um, what's correct for what's, when she's saying she doesn't trust your intentions or what you're doing, it's because you're only doing this on camera West. Yeah. You play this big fucking game on camera. Like, I don't know what I'm doing Sierra. Like I'm trying with Sierra, but I just don't know what she wants. Call her off the show. Call her during the week and go have coffee when there's not cameras around and have a real discussion.
Starting point is 00:53:40 But you won't do that. You just want to do it on TV. I think that's what she said. He just did that. He just was very sly. He was like, oh, but like the only reason why I don't call you when it's not on TV is because I just don't know how to do it because I'm scared. So it's the next morning and people are waking up. Levi is in bed with Bailey and she's like, oh my God, you're so sweaty.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Not only did I have to waste a good outfit last night, I got covered in your goo. And she's like, well, it's my anxiety. It's not I'm not fucking sleeping. That's the problem. Oh, yesterday I was sad. Today I'm angry. I kind of want to pop off on. Ben. I was like, oh, that's going to really help.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Please do, though. But I encourage it. Please do. So, like, coming up here with your weird, curled hair, slicked back, staring at me dead in the eyes. I don't put myself in situations with men that I'm not fucking dating or yelling at me. Well, you should, hopefully don't put yourself in a situation where men you are dating are yelling at you either. I don't think any man should be yelling at you in the first place. Bailey, stand up for yourself.
Starting point is 00:54:41 But it's funny how when a guy, you know, you think a guy is so cute and then they give that reason to ick. And then you're like, ew, there's stupid curly hair and their fucking blue eyes, fucking white walker eyes. The fuck out of here. Yeah. Seriously, it's so funny how it just like turns, like right away. It's like stupid washboard abs. Eat a sandwich. But I actually love that. I love when there's someone who's so hot and then you like see them for either being evil or awful or whatever. And then it like releases the spell of their hotness. I always feel like, you know, when someone's really hot, I don't like, I don't like that spell. I mean, we just watch the traitors, okay? We watch an entire castle of people be basically
Starting point is 00:55:24 dignitized by Rob because you're under the spell of the hotness. And so like, once that spell has been dissipated, you can just have like agency over your own, like, thoughts and actions again, I feel like. And so I think it's a great moment when, when someone stops being hot and they just start becoming awful. Yeah. I just, I'm trying to think of who that happened to with Rob. I'm like, I don't know that that's a great example. I don't think they're probably still do anything that he says.
Starting point is 00:55:54 No, I have that to say, I don't think it ever happened with Rob. That's why he was so good. Well, he wasn't good. You know who you see it happen with every season is Craig on Southern Charm. Yep. That's someone you see it happen every season where he, he kind of, even people like me who are completely anti at this point. even me, I get convinced because he gets so charming and he can be so cute.
Starting point is 00:56:15 And there's always a couple points in the season where I'm like, oh, he's better. Everything's great. And then you just, he does something again, like yells at a woman or something. It's like, oh, so coldy and gross. He's a burst blood vessel. He's just so disgusting. It's like everything that was cute about him before. I'm like, your stupid, squinty eyes and your stupid, bushy eyebrows, and your full head of hair, you're disgusting.
Starting point is 00:56:39 You are disgusting. sir. Yeah, totally. Well, Ben and Kyle go to the gym. Mia's boyfriend calls her. Uh, Jesse, uh, comes into the kitchen, which is a total mess. So everything that they were like, this kitchen's never looked this good. Because by the way, they had caterers in the night before that cleaned up the kitchen. And now they went and made it a shit hole again. And I guess they left some steak out and they were really sad. And like Jesse, his frown, he already had his frown from Sierra. And now it was like even more frowning because he, he also now no longer has steak. He lost steak. And Sierra.
Starting point is 00:57:11 That's a tough weekend. Oh, what a mistake. What a mistake. What a, no pun intended. So KJ comes in and they talk about the steak being gone. And KJ asks if he talked to Sierra and he's like, yeah, it was good. He's like, did you guys set some boundaries or no? KJ.
Starting point is 00:57:29 That's so far. Everything, everything that love, everything that comes out of KJ's mouth, it's like the perfect TikTok Zoomer guy, you know, who's just like, whoa. How was last night? Do you guys set boundaries? Awesome. You guys are up to date on your pronouns, right? So I only mention that because I always tell the story how back in 2020,
Starting point is 00:57:56 Ronnie and I were in New Orleans and we're walking down. Was it Frenchman Street? It was just there were all these college students that were out. They're all 20, 21. And this bro, this big old bro who was like, Geron kind of like beer stains on a shirt, walks up to a girl. I was like, hey, what are your pronouns? I was like, that is so sweet.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Like, and I love that Gen Z. I always talk with me. All the road. Fratty guy was like, hey, hey, you want to drug some beers, but first, what are your pronouns? I loved it. So it is, you're so right. When KJ's like, hey, man, do you guys like set some good boundaries last night? It's just so, it's so Gen Z, Zumer.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Yeah. And West is like, KJ, you're such a good guy. I don't know if people tell you that a lot, but I know you just mean well in everything you do, bro. I was like, thanks, bro. So then Amanda and Sierra are talking, and Sierra's like, oh, my, oh, my God. Well, first of all, they were showing the guys talking, like, did you talk to Sierra? And then they just cut to Sierra. And she's like, I really like cheese.
Starting point is 00:58:59 And then they cut back to the guy talking about the girls. She's not interested in what the guys are doing. So funny. But now they go to Sierra and she's talking about West. And she's like, yeah. So, like, West's like cornered. I mean, not cornered me. He pantried me.
Starting point is 00:59:11 He, like, talked to me at the pantry. And he was like, I want to talk to you, but I just never know when's, like, a good time. And I was like, yeah, because I made it that way. And he was like, yeah, but, like, I want to talk to you. And then they just start laughing at what a loser West is. That's my favorite. My favorite is when the girls laugh at the guys behind their backs. So they get dressed.
Starting point is 00:59:34 They can have a day out. And they get into their cars. And West is, he's doing. doing shotgun and Sierra opened the door to be like, you have to give this to me, you know, because she's used to a year of West doing anything she says to get on her good side. And so he's like, joke.
Starting point is 00:59:47 He's like, he's like, no, I'm gonna stand up for myself today. I'm gonna stay here. She's like, but it's like flirty and fun, but he's like standing up for himself. He's growing. And then the other car, Kyle's watch is like, oh my God, they're flirting. Look at.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Oh, ah, so they all go. They are all gonna head off to Wolf of Vineyards, one of the famed locations some house. Yeah. And so Kyle's like, hey, hey, I got incriminating evidence of West and Sierra getting together last night. And he shows them a picture and they're like dancing together. Ben's like, oh, that's actually a good still. Pretty good. Oh, my God. He's resting his head on her shoulder. Would you care to rest your head on my shoulder of Amanda? Platonically, of course. I'm a big smiling eyes going. And back in Westcar, he's like,
Starting point is 01:00:36 one small step for mankind and one month longer on probation, Sierra, because she didn't get the front seat. So now let's go to food flow. And Amanda's like, what's the difference between a winery and a winiard? And they just like laugh. And Ben goes, no one can give you an answer to that one, except for me. And my answer comes in the form of any afternoon coffee for you, my love.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Platonically, of course. So they all sit at the table, this picnic table, and like somewhere on one side, obviously somewhere on one side. And Bailey is like a little bit too close to Ben. So she's like, I'm not going to sit here. So she makes a very loud announcement that she's going to move to the other side. One of these like nice big passive aggressive, I'm going to sit as far away from Ben as possible. Thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And so she does. She gets a hell away from him. And they're like, oh, okay. And I was hoping this was going to lead to. some kind of a big fight, but it didn't. Same. And Kyle stands up and starts eating the grapes off the vine that's hanging above the table. And they're like, wow. So the server comes over, pours him some wines.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And Sierra asked Kyle to go away from the table to take a picture. And so he's taking pictures. He's like, oh, hey, work hard. I got you. You know, they ain't calling Mansell Adams in high school for nothing. She's like, who the fuck is that? And did he have anger issues? Because that's kind of hot.
Starting point is 01:02:01 And Kyle's like, you know, that's. Hansel Adams he's a ward-winning black and white photographer that ventured into color in the after part of his career she's like okay whatever um so Kyle's like all right give me naughty Sierra come on give me a little give me naughty okay give me love boy give me five hundred thousand dollars Sierra no seriously do you have five hundred thousand dollars and Sierra's like um we're in a vineyard what do me give me give me naughty and so they're like posing and Kyle's um he's like how about uh how about uh do this pose I flirted with West last night yeah and they're making fun
Starting point is 01:02:32 of how Kyle is standing because he's like kind of squatting and sticking his butt out to get a picture. Amanda's like, oh my God, look at that idiot. So Mia is complimenting Kyle on, or no, Amanda, she's complimenting. She's like, I'm so glad you got that watch. You deserve it. She's like, yeah, that was like more a gift for him than it was for me because like the fact that everyone, like, clapped for him and like applauded for him. And now I can leave him and I got a watch out of it. So then Ben and Sierra go off to play. I love she's like she's like I'm not joking guys
Starting point is 01:03:07 Ben and Sierra go off to play cornhole and I thought like okay they're gonna talk about the Bailey situation nope not gonna talk about the Bailey situation at all in fact like you said I thought there would be a confrontation I was like waiting for it I was like ooh what's gonna happen next and like they just is like abandoned and I'm so mad like I'm so invested in this so band is like you know it's be really good getting to know you the past few weeks Sierra look at me being fluidy with you
Starting point is 01:03:32 you to throw the heat off the fact that I apparently have been very flooty with Amanda. I'm floating with everyone. I guess that means that we're friends owned. It's like, yeah, same. Like, I actually don't hate you. Like, you actually don't get on my nerves. Like, you're a great addition to the house, I guess. In terms of Guy energy, like, you're not so stupid.
Starting point is 01:03:53 It's like, all right, well, borderline stupid, but not stupid, stupid. She's like, yeah, exactly. I mean, you're still stupid, but you're not the stupidest we've ever had. I mean, you really should look at the people who've been on this show. And I don't just, like, see you as a hot piece of ass. And everyone that, you know, wants to make out with you in the house, you know, I'm sure that's it. Like, it's got to be kind of annoying, right? And I can see where you're, like, kind of uncomfortable, right?
Starting point is 01:04:16 Like at dinner, you were just, like, really upset. And it's like, yeah, that was a lot. Yeah. So what's going on with you? Are you dating anyone? Are you looking for a relationship? I thought she was, I was like, Sierra, I thought you were going to say, Bailey seemed really rattled by you last night. And how are things today with you and Bailey?
Starting point is 01:04:32 Are you okay? Have you checked in on her? God, I feel so I hate that. You guys are falling in. Since she's just like, yeah, that was weird last night. So who are you dating? What's going on with your life? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I think it takes a time to break into that girl group. Like they're, they're accepting, but you know, you have to kind of break through because they never know when it's going to be Alexi or somebody. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So Ben's like, yeah, that was a lot. So she asked him about dating. and he says, oh, I've been trying to work on myself for a while.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Okay, all right. But there was a moment, you know, early in the year, I was dating someone for a minute, and then she said she loved me, and I thought I'd be ready, but, you know, I was trying to get ready, but I froze. I just, I guess I fucked that up. So he says he met this girl through a dating app. They only knew each other for a couple of weeks, but they spent like 100 hours together, and they took a photo, and he was like, oh, my God, it feels so unreal,
Starting point is 01:05:28 and it was so special, but it was. went too fast. And so he told her, well, I'm probably going to the Hamptons for the summer. So let me see how that turns out. And she was like, well, I'm not fucking waiting for you. You dick. But apparently they were. I mean, online is saying that he's been dating this whole time. Let me tell you something. This is all a very lovely spin that he put on the situation. But we know what this really was, which was, when started hot and heavy, everything was great. He got on the TV show. And it's like, wait a second. I like you, but I like the idea of how. having a fling on national TV that could give me longevity on Summer House more. So you're going to have to go in the back burner. And she was like, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:06:08 It's like, sorry, TV's more important. So I don't know. I think this whole story, he's put a spin on it like, I'm just working on myself. I don't know. I froze. I'm scared of it. I'm like, no, you're just like really almost every other guy on this show we've seen so far. You're just another fuck boy.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Yeah. And whenever a guy says, oh, I'm not dating because I'm working. on myself. Oh, shut the fuck up. When has that ever been true? Has that ever been proven to be true by any man? Really? Rose because she said, I love you. It's like, it was so great. It was so special, but she said, I love you and I froze. Okay. What I meant that you want to keep your options open. You didn't freeze. Yeah. And so Sierra gives him kind of a speech about, you know, how he should handle it. And she's like, you know, I'm guarded too. And once I get hurt, I go back in my shell and it takes me a minute. And, you know, even with that same person. So it's like, I don't trust you and I can't
Starting point is 01:07:00 give you that same version of myself that I once gave you, you know, just like out of protection, I'm sure. But just explain that, you know, just explain to just basically treat her like West. You're like, Sierra's projecting kind of her own West thing onto him. He's like, oh, right. So you want me to tell her to cut her stupid teenage boy hair and take a bath every once in a while? Okay. I don't know that that's going to go over very well, but I'll try it. in full. Yeah, I love I love Ben suggesting that he's just so guarded in life
Starting point is 01:07:32 after he dated 24 women at once. Sure, really guarded. So they now they leave and they go back to the house and they're going to play some pool games. So they're going to go to the backyard and they're going to play some like beer pong and stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:48 And some people are, they're scattered around the yard and KJ, Sierra and Amanda are sitting on the back deck. And Amanda's like, So KJ, you had sex yesterday morning and he's like in a hoodie and he's like closing up the hood on his like face and he's like yeah she's like with who dara she's like wait you guys are like hot and heavy are you guys texting this weekend and then we see that like this entire episode basically in the background kj has been just like texting and calling dara and just like hey what's going on hey it's been
Starting point is 01:08:20 about 35 minutes what's new with you and i actually found it to be endearing i'm like i think have we've been waiting for another shoe to drop with kj because like a lot of the stuff he says seems like setting up the fuck boy thing but i'm actually starting to believe and this may be a fatal flaw because i may be proven wrong very soon i'm starting to believe he may not be a fuck boy after all he may just well he's already past that because he's taking her out on multiple dates yeah and he's like he tells uh everyone he's like yeah i just feel like you know um you know what like i don't like if people like each other, then they're like, oh, we'll see each other only once a week. Like, if you like me, if I like you, whatever, like if you're free, we'll make time.
Starting point is 01:09:01 And I was like, that's so good. I feel like that's really evolved and great. I was like, wait a second. KJ. Hey, Jay, what's going on here? Yeah. Look at that. So then we go to West and Ben talking by the pool.
Starting point is 01:09:17 And West is like, oh, my God, what should I do about Sierra? Dude, I just don't know. she's a girl that's just so confusing. And he's like, what are you talking about? He's like, I just have so many internal battles. Cut your hair. Sorry, I'll make it very curly like a statue like I'll have. Please, please just cut your hair.
Starting point is 01:09:39 And so Ben's like, just, all right, let's go talk. Let's go talk. Let's have a boy talk. Are you all right? He's like, well, it's just up in a gray area with Sierra for so long. And it feels good to be like friends. And like, I just love her so much as a friend. But, like, when we were together, it was, like, dreamy.
Starting point is 01:09:59 She's unreal. So I know why she's special. And I think you're special as well. And I think that if I was around for that, I would have thought it was the greatest thing of all time. Almost like Amanda's smile in her eyes, platonically, of course. Yeah, she's great. That's why it sucks. He's like, all right.
Starting point is 01:10:16 So you just totally fucked it up? He's like, well, she wants a good boyfriend, you know, and, like, someone who loves her. her and takes care of her and I just wasn't in that place, you know? Oh, civil hot was broken and she says she really loved you. He's like, I know. Do you have any regrets? Well, of course. Do you miss her?
Starting point is 01:10:36 Yeah. Does she know that? Yeah, but I don't know what else to do. Oh, sorry. Sometimes I just get random applause because I'm a model, especially when I give advice. Great shoot. Great shoot, brother.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Great, great episode for me. I believe in you. I'll believe in you. It's going to make the cover of the JC Penny. I can tell you that. I can tell you that. And that is the end of the episode. Wow.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Summer House. Who knew? That was a good one. It was good. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being here. We will talk to you next time. Bye.
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