Watch What Crappens - #3271 RHOBH S15E14 Part 2: The Masked Zinger

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

This is part 2 of a 2-parterBoz makes a shady joke, which leads to simpering and whimpering in Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Even Natalie has a moment! To watch this recap on video, listen to our ...bonus episodes, and get ad free listening,, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to watch our crap and it's a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you miss part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. So, um, Doreet's like, oh, fuck off. Well, I'm surprised by this because Souton and I had turned to Q in her. You're doing so real.
Starting point is 00:00:43 It's like, now I understand why Sutton really, really sought out to room with Amanda. Kyle and Amanda are thick as thieves And Sutton is thinking, shit, am I on the wrong side? I got to get back on their side. So she's willing to sabotage our friendship that shit that has made leaps and boons just to score points with Kyle.
Starting point is 00:01:02 And it's really pathetic. I think that is actually also a good theory. I think, yes, I think Sutton, for whatever reason, has like some hard-on for Kyle. She just wants Kyle's approval. It's some psychological void that she has.
Starting point is 00:01:18 she carries with her since middle school of needing to be accepted by the queen bee and i do think some of that is true i do too yeah and i thought it was weird that setton is suddenly she's like let's be friends to read and then she's like yell it to reet yell it to reit she's got this whole thing in italy where she wants to see drit yelled at so rachel's like you know what we need caffeine and Gucci. Yeah, I'd die for that. Oh my God. Can you send some caffeine in Gucci to Caius in the Hamptons? I think actually at one point she does say she does get Gucci and she gets Gucci bracelets for the kids. So by the way, I have to say this may be from the, this may be naive ban who doesn't have kids. But if I have a 13 year old boy, I'm not getting the Gucci bracelet.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Hell no. He's going to get a slap bracelet at most, a swatch. I don't know, but I'm not giving you a designer bracelet when you're 13 and watching you scuff it up or lose it, right? No, serri. Well, we're not rich, you know, so rich people are. I'll just get him a little bobble, a little Gucci bubble. He deserves that. He went best moisturized in school, so he gets that.
Starting point is 00:02:31 So Jennifer, Eric, and Bose, Natalie, Ernavan. And Eric is like, a woman told me I look like a vada trope. I can't even begin to tell you how that made me feel good. Probably good, actually. But Natalie, tell the group what you told me about Tega. She's like, well, Amanda was sharing with Kyle that she overheard you and both say something about a mask when we were on the British masks? What are you talking about? I said, look, there are those masks.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I remember that. And I said, that's a come mask. So we come out of the mask. So you don't get COVID? Well, he's still trying to take a load of the face. I thought I was the sexy one. And I thought you said her name referencing a joke of some kind. No.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I did not say Amanda's name in reference to a damn mask. She's like, well, we're so obsessed with Amanda. By the way, so the, it's all getting distorted here because because it was Natalie who said, like, who would be the Pinocchio? And Bose said Amanda. And like Pinocchio means like, you know, the nose coming out the liar, right? But now they're talking specifically about like the conversation was about mask. And yes, the Pinocchio was.
Starting point is 00:03:37 the mask, but they're making it seem like they were having a discussion about masks and who would be the most masked person. And so I think Bose is like, I don't, I don't remember even having this conversation. So do you think Bose is being like a literalist where it's like, well, I didn't say anything about the mask. I said something about Pinocchio. So if you say, I said something about the mask, I didn't say something about the mask. Or do you think she just doesn't remember at all? I think it's all the above. I think she's being an accidental literalist. I think because I think if they said, no, remember about the Pinocchio, who'd be the Pinocchio? And you said Amanda, she'd be like, oh, yes, that. But because they're not, they didn't phrase it like, they phrase it. So it's almost on like a little bit of a different conversation. I think she sort of doesn't remember. Because she's thinking too, about it in this moment. So I think, I think she looked genuinely confused. I thought, I didn't think it was fake. I thought we all know she said it. But she did say it. And I'm also like, well, she's not dumb. She would remember saying that. So is she just being like, well, I didn't literally say mask. And it's such a stupid thing.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Like honestly, I cannot believe this fucking show. And now, you know, the next six weeks of our lives, we have to talk about this. Because it's going to be every reunion. It's going to be every five minutes on this show. We're going to have to argue about this for six more weeks. So anyway, Kyle, but we go to Kyle Amanda and Kathy's van. And Kyle's like, oh my God, I'm still surprised at both said that. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Kyle, shut up. God, get a lie. Fucking Kyle. The worst. Well, she would have really meant it as a joke, you know. but do you like being the butt of a joke? She's like, a butt, you mean a bottom? It's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:11 The butt of a joke. Kathy, come on. Like, how would you feel? You would not like that guy. You would not like that. So, Bose is like, whatever, whether or not it was said is not the issue. But she really, if she really felt a certain way about what I said, then she should have just come to me directly.
Starting point is 00:05:26 But she prefers to pull Kyle in so she can deflect. And I don't play that game. And that's exactly the problem. You know, Amanda's such a wuss. Turn to me and say, hey, What the fuck? Don't go to Kyle and make it a whole episode and then try and get everybody on your side and whine and be a victim. You're a wist.
Starting point is 00:05:44 You don't belong here. Kick her off the bus. Well, you know where she did well? Last night, we'll be actually explained when she actually explained the cult to us. At least we have the story as to how, when, when, where, how, what, who, where. And Bo's like, well, we still don't know what made her want to leave. And Erica's like, well, let's ask chat, GPT. So she goes to chat, GPT.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah, because only Erica would think that that was a complete story with the beginning, middle, and an end. That was not. She just said she was part of a youth group. She followed the youth group. She didn't like it. There was some unspecified, you know, pressure. And then she ran away. Well, once she said she ran away in the middle of the night.
Starting point is 00:06:21 But in the beginning of the season, she said right after church, she ran to her sister's house. So I'm not sure if those, maybe church was in the middle of the night. I mean, I don't know. But so Erica pulls out the chat, GPT. When it comes to Amanda Francis, there's no credible evidence that she was ever part of a cult. Instead, what exists are a number of criticisms and controversies? And Bo's like, oh, wow, let me look at this. I just have to say, Erica reading is so funny.
Starting point is 00:06:49 It's like you really see the education system wherever Erica grew up is like failing. Because she's like, when it comes to a lot more, there is no evidence that she will ever. Oh, God, someone else read this. Jesus Christ, I already did the cum gunners a bit. I'm done here. Somebody else read. I'm not paid for this. Ahem.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Ahem. I shall take over. Multiple poets accuse her of misleading conduct. Content and high pricing, and several users have raised concerns about her brand coaching style. Some feel her approaches mix Christian language with New Age manifestation in a way that's off-putting or manipulative. Hmm. And sounds like, you know what? I don't like this business bashing stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I don't like this. Girl, what are you talking about? Shut the fuck up, Sutton. Shut the fuck up back there. Quiet, boo his. Boo. Boo. God, I'm going to get the poke to write to you another letter.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Take it away your new last name, you idiot. Stefan was like, let her speak. So. Dutton Gabana says, let her speaker. Sutton says, you know what Erica and Bose were doing to Amanda? It's no different than doing a deep dive of the cult digging that Deree did to Amanda. Only, this is kind of worse. I'm like, oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Come on. Come on. Get over. She's a grifter. It's on a blog. She wrote a blog about it. It's allowed to be discussed. Yeah, seriously.
Starting point is 00:08:08 So then Eric is like, well, don't ask chap cheapy too about me, honey. Might as well just call me Escobar. Or Levan on Trump. I thought she was saying like, they called me a fucking boop, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep. So we go to the other van, and Amanda's like, like, but jokes can be mean. Well, why don't you just ask her about it? Well, I guess I'm going to have to. And back to Bose.
Starting point is 00:08:33 She's like, ha, well, if she wants a fight, she can have one. I'll give it to her. Good. It's about time. I feel like, you know, I feel like Bose, I would like to see her in more conflicts just because I find her to be really funny and smart. And I just feel like she, she could just, like, destroy someone like an Amanda. So then Rachel, now in the van with Rachel and Dorit. And Rachel, they, Rachel, they, Rachel got her Gucci for the kids.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And Dorit's like, gee, I'm a firm believer. in living life and enjoying. I work hard, and I don't know if I told you this. But I haven't had a Pringle in 16 years because P.K. would always eat them before me. There, I said it, finally. But also, Bose told me that Kyle was concerned, that I might be manic. Could you even believe that? Like, you're literally washing all the windows inside this van right now.
Starting point is 00:09:20 What are you talking about? They're dirty. It's just so I can do an Instagram with my hands up against the windows doing this. So, Rachel's like, but haven't you, like, always been like? It shows literally, literally. And also, first of all, the sponding. And don't talk to me about boring and spawning money. You didn't know what I earn, what I spend.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I have 19 businesses doing things. Girl, you don't earn any money. What are you talking about? Beverly Beach. Don't you? Beverly Beach and the wedding dresses. What was that called? Like pearls.
Starting point is 00:09:56 The pearl. The pearl. The pearl. The pearl. The pearl. Now, please welcome in the pearl. The pearl. This one's called.
Starting point is 00:10:02 The Blue J. This one over here is called that sort of brush you use to wash long glasses. Boorily Beach. And if I show up tonight with my four Gucci bags, she'd consider that part of my manic behavior. Maybe I'll do it. I love when Rachel says, um, but aren't you always late? She says, yes, exactly. I'm always late. Like, she's like, proud of it. How was that manic? It's a regular, okay? And Rachel goes, yeah, if someone called me mama, I can't. I can't. I've put our friendship in a box. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Like literally a box. Is it a Gucci box? Should I send it to Caius in the Hamptons? So Rachel goes, I'm not sure your friendship is working. Just so you know. And then now we go back to Villa Bibiani. And everyone arrives and they're getting dressed because they're going to be having a pool party, which means they're supposed to be getting into bikinis, which of course Dari would have since she is the owner of a bikini business.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I don't think so. Nope, she does not have. I don't think that's still a thing, is it? Privately Beach. Let's look it up. Vivory Beach. Was it everything in the first place? Let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:11:12 So, Senator Amanda are in their room and they're trying on stuff. Amanda's putting on some crazy thing. She's like, is this like like swimsuity? I met. And then there's a knock on the door and a sudden's bag arrives finally. And Amanda's like,
Starting point is 00:11:27 I manifested that you get it before dinner. Remember? You probably manifested that every single. single day and eventually it came true. Okay, this doesn't count. I'm looking at Bovilly Beach. I'm sorry, but podcast break on Beverly Beach. Did you find anything?
Starting point is 00:11:42 471 post, 75% off sale at Beverly Beach by Dorit.com. Let me see him in the last post was. It's a lady in front of a slide holding a baby. And it is from 170 weeks ago. I think it's Derreet maybe, jumping on a trampoline, not in a swimsuit. So I'm a little confused, a little confused. Okay, Beverly Beach by Dorit.com, error 1,000. DNS points to prohibited IP.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Wow. Yeah, that's bad. Beverly Beach, more like Beverly Beached. Yeah, like a whale. Beverly breached. It's backwards inside the womb. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.
Starting point is 00:12:29 So, Sutton and Amanda's room, I don't know. They're all talking about what they're going to wear to dinner, and no one's going to wear a swimsuit. So they start gathering at the bar, and Jennifer sees a guy, and she's like, Are you here to make us delicious drinks? Fabiola, is that your name? Federico, no, Daniela, Leonardo. She's just in one of her own roads where she just won't stop talking. Like, they just show her walking through the house being like,
Starting point is 00:12:57 I love swimming pools. There are places where water goes to rest. Are these chairs? That's what people sit on. I've always approved of chairs. Are we outdoors? I love outdoors because there's not as many walls. She is banterking about every little thing.
Starting point is 00:13:17 She's like, I'd love to sit outside on a nice Italian night. Bose comes out. She's the only one in a bikini. And she's like, I thought this was a puberty. And Eric is like, look like that. It would be. God, no kidding. Because her body is like a statue.
Starting point is 00:13:32 It's like, oh, my God, what a perfect body. And then she sits down even in the bikini. I'm like, oh, if I was in a bikini, I would, well, that would never happen. But if I was, I wouldn't even sit down because I'd be like, oh, my God, what's happening down there? But she's like, hello, I still look perfect, even sitting down in the bikini. What do you think of that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Well, I can't even get in the pool. I'd have to wash my hair. And if there's chlorine, it might turn green. And then what would happen if I actually have a good time? I'd actually have to be joyful and show some personality. I'm not going to do that. you'll never see me in a swimsuit. You might see me in a pool without my swimsuit.
Starting point is 00:14:08 And Kathy's like, well, I don't go into, I don't want to get my hair wet. And I, just no, no. Rachel, where is your bathing suit? Are you okay? Like, I'm wearing a calf tan. That's what I swim in. And by swim, I mean, I sit on chairs. Too much.
Starting point is 00:14:28 So Kyle's like, where's a pizza? I'm risk Doree. So Erica is telling us, you know, Doreet's getting on nerves. Like last night, tonight again, always late. Fucking Doreen. Well, they do say one of the early symptoms of mania is when you show up a little bit late to a pool party, you know. Cause like, I mean, by now Doreet being late is like a joke. Like, nobody expected to show up on time.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Like, yeah, it's been like seven years of it. Why are you suddenly reacting to it now? So Rachel's like, oh, my God, Doreet. Like Dorida's going on the pole. She's like wearing bikinis. She's like hot. She's like doing so much. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:15:06 She was like, no, I'm not going to go in, but everyone looks beautiful. So everyone's annoyed with her because she did show up 45 minutes late. And then pizza comes out. And Amanda keeps on saying, is there a gluten-free pizza on the way? Can you let me know about the gluten-free pizza? I was like, gluten-free is that coming? Any gluten-free? God, you know they must hate her.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Like, gluten-free? What these are these? Yeah, because most people in Italy are like, I don't even have to be gluten-free. because I'm in Italy, and they do gluten different here. Yeah. So, Amanda's like, I just really want my pizza. Where's my gluten free?
Starting point is 00:15:39 Oh, there's my, oh. It's like, you're whining even about that. Come on, it'll come. You're rich. Don't worry. They'll make you your gluten free. Oh, my God. Thank you so much. Wait a minute. Is this a pile of hair?
Starting point is 00:15:52 It's gluten free, huh? There's no gluten in hair. Eat it, you stupid. Sputana. So Bose is asking if everybody feels feels good. And Rachel's like, it was a hard person all day, but like, I'm here now. So it's all good. You know, it's like my accent stuff. But it got sorted. So my kids are going to go to the Hamptons. You know, but it may not hard hurt. It was like hard to know that like my kids were not in the Hamptons for a weekend. But like now they're there. And I'm going to have Xander look after them. It makes me feel better to know that my kids are now in white linen. so everything's fine.
Starting point is 00:16:31 They're wearing white linen and like black fedoras because like Zanda's styling them this weekend. So Sutton's like, well, I don't know about y'all personally, but I've been hearing bits and pieces today about like, not gossip, but like, you know, just-
Starting point is 00:16:47 That's probably gossip. But like, talk, you know? So, it was like, well, tell us about the conversation you were having. And Sutton goes, well, Cal and I picked up this morning from our conversation last night, We talked to Amanda.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And Kyle's like, oh, God, as if, like, Kyle was not the one who's been prompting everyone to confront each other tonight. And now she's like, oh, God, are we really going to have a confrontation tonight? Yeah. Well, you know, and with the investigatory cult thing, you know, I would have been pissed. I would have been pissed. Drew's like, oh, boy, the way, little moosey. She's like, oh, really? Little Missy?
Starting point is 00:17:21 Oh, okay, okay, missy. And Kathy's like, um, by the way, Nancy Drew. It's like, wait, Satin, when you showed up at Kyle's house and you put your hand out to shake, I thought I want to give it a shot. Little by little, naturally and organically, we start to move forward. But then today, out of the blue, I hear that you're talking shit about me in my manic state. Well, unfortunately, if I hadn't been so busy cleaning every window in our car and also in the nearest cathedral, I would have had to say something to you much earlier.
Starting point is 00:17:53 But unfortunately, my work is never quite done. Manic, manic, manic, manic. Well, how did I talk shit? How did I talk shit? 67 toothpicks, 67 toothpick, 67 toothpick. Oh, sorry. I was like, six seven, uh, six seven. Doreet did some investigating on a Munda, that's what you said.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Well, I wasn't talking shit. Well, are you suggesting I did a Google A deep dive? I didn't say Google, I said, hotbot, isn't that a search engine that you use? So then, so, then Sutton's like, I mean, you said you Googled it, that's not at the table. And Kathy's like, well, you went and read the book. blog, you know, about the cult stuff. And Jennifer's like, sat in, I googled every person in this group and I just think it's a natural curiosity. Well, I didn't say Google Deep dive. I mean, somebody else said that. I don't even know that term. Google Deep dive. What is that? Well, then why did you see it?
Starting point is 00:18:47 Oh, Doreet. Doreet. Where did you're implying to her, Amanda, that she should be mad at me because you would be mad at me. So now she has to be mad at me. I just said, if it were me, I would have had a reaction. And so therefore you should have a reaction because you should be like a little version of me. And Kyle was there too. So we were both like asking Amanda, don't you feel something about this? So maybe you should be mad at Kyle. Okay? Because remember how we were mad at Amanda for passing the buck over to Kyle? I'm going to now pass the buck over to Kyle, but you can't be mad at me about it because I've already been on the show. Because it's always Kyle. It's Kyle stirring the pot all the time. So Kyle's like, well, I mean, you have to be
Starting point is 00:19:30 have emotion and then you don't have emotion and then you do have emotion, but not the emotion we want. What? I was like, yeah, there's a little bit of that tool. So Sondon's saying like, I'm just trying to do Dorea Fiverr by exposing the situation, bringing it up to Amanda for them to hash it out together essentially, you know? No, you're trying to start shit. You're trying to get someone to fight with Doreet because you still don't like Doreet. Okay, just caught to it.
Starting point is 00:19:57 So Doreet, Doreet to us is like, Are you a total moron? Or do you think I'm a total moron? I mean, do you want to get her to be more expressive? I want her to express her own thoughts, not the thoughts you're putting in a little tiny blonde head. Oh, it didn't realize it was a little tiny blonde head. I thought it was just a giant potato chip for me to eat. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:20:21 So Kyle is like, well, I thought that's why it was bothering you to read that Amanda wasn't having a reaction. And man's like, um, I have something. thing to say. It's like, okay, let us speak for herself. I resent the idea that being calm and centered and grounded and emotionally regulated is fake. I try to practice not giving energy. By the way, they're all rolling their eyes now around the table. I try to practice not giving energy and space to every little thing and I do not feel safe when we're at the dinner table. Like that would normally be a time that I choose to get vulnerable and open up more. But instead, I have felt emotionally unsafe.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Oh, God. Just fuck off. And Doreet's just crossing her eyes. She's like, oh, Jesus. Thank God I have my life saver here. Oh, Kukukukula. I can't go anywhere without Kukukukuk. Enjoy kuk.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Doreet has learned from the Kyle Richards School of reacting to someone else's speech because Kyle is normally the one who bulges her eyes and looks down to the right. But in this case, Doret's like, I'm going to do it too. So Erica's like, but there's also a way to have tough conversations there. I mean, it's like, if you want to have the conversation in the first place, but maybe you just want to go to the Hamptons.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Right, Kyle, I see you making a face over there, but you know what I'm talking about. She's like, um, it's just a lot, honestly. It's just like a lot. Everybody's always coming from Amanda. And she says that she knows why Amanda doesn't feel safe opening up to this group because she's been on the defense giving this, you know, all the time. It's poor Amanda on the defense. And so Rachel's like, yeah, but like emotionally and safe, that can also be a trigger word.
Starting point is 00:22:03 See, I can do it too. It's like a generational thing. And like, as a member of the younger generation, I would like to say that like sometimes we use words like safe and on fleak. And it's just a little different. That's it. Oh, please. Hina Montina. And Rachel's like, but like age 40 is not like age 25.
Starting point is 00:22:22 So like it's different. Yeah, but like if you like subtract her. her age from my age, we're basically like 12 years altogether. So, like, it's fine. It's like a millennial expression. And I know that as a member of Gen Z, guys. And Amanda says, it is. Well, perhaps this environment is different for Amanda with friends who actually hold her accountable. And Rachel's like, yeah, you know, like, my Amanda problem is, like, are you the strongest and most powerful or are you, like, the weakest victim? Because you can't be both. And certainly not at the same time in the same day when my kids were in the hamptons are you the strongest or are you the most
Starting point is 00:23:02 moisturized just tell me and that is that is the thing about amanda she's like i'm a strong independent woman that's a hundred percent right i think actually rachel nailed it so erika's like well they'll think that anything you've experienced the last six weeks in this group comes anywhere near with the other women have gone through and described group, you should get in your car, drive away. I'm like, I mean, it's true. It's also funny. Just be like, oh, shut up.
Starting point is 00:23:32 We've all been through. Whereas I'm going to do a million court cases every single day. And you will be too soon enough with your grift. Wait until they all blame you for having to read a 12-page article. That's something. The whole season of bullshit with these bitches. So I'm mad as like, my life lungs going, because then he's gone. I'm everyone just holes her eyes.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Sutton. Sutton has been trying to stand up for her this whole dinner. And Sutton's like, oh, God. So Amanda, like, clearly she's, like, rehashing some lines from her seminar because she's like, I have cultivated, curated, and co-created and manifested it intentionally this way. I was like, girl, you're not going to see your all the way through. Cultivated, curated, co-created, manifested? What's manifest? No.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Just even say canifested. Come on. You can't just, like, fuck up the alliteration like that. She's like, she's like, by it. design on purpose and I do so every day and I want it to look good and feel good and I absolutely have flaws. I don't have secrets. You know, one of my flaws is I married a guy who can't pay for shit. That's why I do it all myself. I bought tuna last week. I bought the tuna in the house. I don't talk about anything. And she says, yeah, I mean, I told people about Zion's death.
Starting point is 00:24:47 My first night of meeting though, and like the women have taken time to get to know me, see me as authentic, but the ones we've not taken the time are the ones making conclusions about me that are untrue. It's such an interesting parallel with what's going on with this show and the parentheses far superior ladies of London, because we have sort of two things of like, like you have two cast members on one on these shows talking about like, hey, I shared this very heavy thing. And so therefore, because I was so vulnerable, you should be giving me more respect. You should be like holding space.
Starting point is 00:25:21 you should be halting everything. You should be saying, oh, my God, you know? And you have other women who are like, I mean, that's terrible that that happened. But like, you're just bringing up now to kind of just like manipulate the conversation, right? And so it's kind of interesting how on two shows are happening at the same time to different degrees of entertainment. But this one, they're like tiptoeing around how to say it like, stop bringing up your trauma for fucking social collateral. And on the other one, she's like, you know, the Kimmy's just like, oh, shut the fuck up. Why don't I have to talk about that?
Starting point is 00:25:52 It's bullshit. So good. Yeah. It's like, I understand. Your brother died, but it doesn't mean we got to be bored at a wine tasting. God bless. Isn't it bad enough he got shot in the first place? You have to ruin my glass of wine about it.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I'm trying to enjoy a blonk to blonk. Blanc to blonk to block. The amount of time I said blonk to blonk this week. Blong to block. Okay, so Amanda is, she's like, I need to ask a clarifying question. I can't. You need to ask a clarifying question. Like she's getting, she's getting re-question someone, cross-examination in a courtroom.
Starting point is 00:26:29 When we were on the bridge, Bose, you know, you saw the mask. Did you say that's Amanda? I don't think I said that. And we see the thing. Like, who's going to be Pinocchio? Amanda. And that's my point. Who's going to be Pinocchio is a little different than like who wears a mask, who is masked?
Starting point is 00:26:50 That's why I think that she's confused. So then Kyle's like, well, I mean, this is what you said. This is what you said. And Boz goes, why would you need to remind her of what she said? Let her say it if she remembers. I want to hear it from her, Kyle. Like, is this a conversation with me and Kyle or me and Amanda? She goes, but like, it's because Natalie said something too, though.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And Amanda's like, yeah, the truth is, I think you know you said it. Girl, what? Well, she's saying you're a liar. That's what she's saying. Or if you'd like to hear it in Italian, she's calling you a lea. But no kiosimissimo. So Boz is like, I know. And she's trying to tell me what I know.
Starting point is 00:27:30 And if you have a direct question, let me know. Amanda goes, but did you look at a mask and say that's like Amanda? Why would I say that? Just because you think I'm fake. Okay. Do you think I'm fake? Just like, I think you, that you are not being clear about your life? Because it looks and feels good.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I can't have that. I'm not allowed to have a life that looks and feels good. It's not pure, and we've all seen it. You're presenting your life like a Stepford wife or something, and it's not. My life is beautiful. I worked and created it that way. It's great. But there are warts in it, and all I'm saying is we should hear all your warts.
Starting point is 00:28:07 She's like, but what have I not been forthcoming about? Well, you present things as perfect, and they're probably not. It feels to me that whenever there's a situation, it's like, poor Amanda, you're kind of like, Healy's hair line. I see through it. But what am I, my poor man died? Right now, in this very moment, notice how you're saying? He's like, see how you're speaking right now? You're doing it right now?
Starting point is 00:28:30 Right now? You're asking me why I said this thing that makes me appear as an aggressor to you. Well, I think you're being maybe a bit hypersensitive, Munda. And if I've come at you and accosted you, what I do see from you is you show up as very Suki, you know? Tarii, why are you vacuuming right now? The man, it goes, Soghi.
Starting point is 00:28:55 You make faces like this. You make faces like this. This is what you look like, Commander. Kathy's like, that's true, it's true. So let me just stop here today because Bose said her thing.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I wish Bose was a little more honest with her in this, because I don't really see, think Bose is presenting a great case here, especially since she's known all day that this is coming. I wish instead of her saying like you're not, you don't seem honest about your life or you seem like a victim or something like that, tell them why you don't like her. You know it. I wish she would just say, yes, I made a joke on the bridge because she said, who's Pinocchio and I said you? Because I feel like you're inauthentic. You come in here, you act like you're authentic, but all you do is gobbledy gook like millennial like pop psychology TikTok speak. You don't say anything real. You don't
Starting point is 00:29:46 say anything real. You use tragedy for social capital and as arguments against people, which is totally tacky. And I think your business is a fucking rip off. I think it's crazy that you're saying you're charging like tens of thousands of dollars when you say you came from a colt and it looks like you're running a cult. Like that's what I think. I think you're an inauthentic loser. Yeah, I agree. It's like about this like, oh, you're not showing us your real life, warts and all. I was like, I actually don't think that's the issue. I don't think it's like about she's not sure. I mean, she sort of actually did share like a major work that happened in her life, you know, a tragic one. And so like, I don't think that's the issue. It's, it's a hundred
Starting point is 00:30:25 percent what you said. I have the exact same reaction, which is like, don't say like, oh, she's not sharing her life because the truth is none of you guys actually really want that. Like, I can't tell any single person in this in this group that's like, oh my God, I can't wait to find out more about Amanda's life. I think they're using that as a way so that would they have some sort of like moral high ground of why they're they're feeling they it's why it's they use that to explain why they're annoyed but they're annoyed because they pick up on amanda what we pick up on is that she's fake she's a grifter and she's just annoying and she like like you can't really even have a conversation with her without herself promoting or like suddenly like acting like a like a victim in the most
Starting point is 00:31:09 annoying way but they don't want to be the ones to accuse her of that because they that's so harsh. So instead they're going to, they're going to drape this other lofty thing on top of it, which is like, we are annoyed with you, not because of your personality. We're annoyed because you're not sharing with us. And they're putting it back on her that way. It's like, no, you're annoyed because she's just annoying and just owing up to it and live in it. Yeah. When they feel like you're a victim, it's like you're using all this victim language constantly. Like, we're having this discussion now. And you're, the way you're saying it is, I'm feeling same. Like, I'm emotionally right.
Starting point is 00:31:43 but I feel like it's hard to have a conversation with somebody who is like a therapy chat GPT bot, you know. So I wish they would say that. I think Jareet kind of gets it the best, oddly enough, because she says, you can be flawed, imperfect. You can have a past, but just be. Like, just be yourself, in other words, and stop being this, you know, bullshit made up persona. Yep. So then Jennifer's like, I feel like you may have wasted a. a lot of time today being hurt over something that possibly didn't even happen.
Starting point is 00:32:18 And Kyle's like, um, but she was clear about what she heard on the bridge. And Natalie even agreed that. Yes, that's what Bose said as a joke. And Natalie said, well, I said Bose said Amanda's name. And Kyle's like, yeah, but then like, what was the joke part of you were referring to? Just like, Amanda, that was the joke. She was like, well, obviously, you know. So, no, I'm asking.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And so it's like, Amanda knows. This is, who said it, y'all? And Natalie's like, um, like, Natalie starts the back pedal in a way that didn't really make sense to me. Yeah, she won't say it either. She just wants to stay out of it. So Amanda's like, Natalie, you're standing right there too and you agreed. That's what both said. And she goes, don't pin this on me.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I mean, I took it as a joke and you should have two. And I was like, but you're not saying what you said earlier. And she goes, but I didn't say. But you confirmed it before. Now you're telling a different story, which is true. I don't know what Natalie's doing. I mean, Natalie should have just said. they asked me if I heard you joking about Amanda on the bridge and I said yes but it was just a joke like I don't know why Natalie is being a weird oh too now they're all I honestly don't weird in this episode I can't even follow any I can't even follow why any of them are acting like this but I also don't I don't totally see exactly how Natalie changed her story either I just wasn't sure what was happening and I feel like Natalie was I feel like Natalie was caught off guard and didn't really know what was happening and suddenly Kyle's like you know coming at her and she's like what and Kyle's like what is this nice.
Starting point is 00:33:39 you're scared of Bose so you're not going to admit to what you confirmed earlier. And now at least like, I'm not playing this game of tag with you. I've watched this for weeks now. And Kyle's like, you said something different earlier. You realize we all see this, right? And Drew's like, my God, you just cannot help it. She's like, you're lying. Now he's like, what?
Starting point is 00:33:55 Huh? I'm sexy. I'm just waiting for a way to talk about the fact that I got a happy ending once. Come on. Oh, you know what doesn't lie? The cameras. She does her like cross-eyed headbobble thing. And so Doreet just gets up and leaves.
Starting point is 00:34:14 And it's like, honestly, it seems like Coyle has lost all ability to be abductive. She's fiercely protecting Amunda with the hopes that Aminda will eventually fall in line and be a soldier. And then Aminda can say to me all the things that Kyle really wants to say. But apparently it doesn't have the goods to say. And I know what's happening and I cannot watch it anymore. I'm going to bid. Like, Doreet, you've been here five minutes. You were already three heads late.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Sit your ass down. So she leaves. And Natalie's like, that was really harsh to say that I lied. Well, you did, even though I wasn't there. I mean, I was there, but I wasn't, but I was. And I was like, I didn't lie. She's like, yeah, you did. So Erica's like, oh, Natalie, you called me a liar, and I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Just please stop. So I'm like, but they all say that. It's not just Natalie. So Rachel's- Natalie was a lot in this, though. She should have just said, I did say I hear it. and I also said it was a joke. But instead, she's like, uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I know. I didn't know. Although she did have a line in there where she said, I said it was a joke. But she won't say, that's what I'm saying. But she won't say what it was that she heard that was a joke, because it's going to contradict Bose and she likes Bose.
Starting point is 00:35:28 And Kyle's been an asshole. And she even says, like, I've seen you doing this for weeks where Kyle will start a fight. She gets everybody fighting and then she brings a fight forward. And then she's directing everything and directing them what to say. So I did like that Natalie pointed this. out when she's like, I'm not playing your game of tag. I've seen you do this for weeks.
Starting point is 00:35:45 But at the same time, you are it. And so you've got to just say, this is what I heard. And I said it was a joke. Like, why? It's so Beverly Hills to just be like, let's not ever say what we really said and just keep going around in circles for 20. Seriously. So Rachel's like, Kyle looks like she's going to implode.
Starting point is 00:36:03 She's like, Zand in the Hamptons without his fedora. Kyle's like, well, it's frustrating because, like, Natalie is like, I just met you. And you just fucking lied. like weird to me. So Natalie's like, how am I lying? And Amanda's like, because now you're saying all that happened was that my name was said. But in the street, you said it was about the masks. I'm sorry. Like they are, they are like if Natalie's story changed, whatever, I just feel like this is so, it's so stupid. This would have happened if Amanda had the balls to just turn around and ask what she said right then and there. But instead, she's had to make it this whole production and
Starting point is 00:36:40 no one else wants to play with it. And I like that everyone else is like, you know what, even if we know we're wrong, we're not going to give you this because Kyle and Natalie, or Kyle and Amanda, you both suck. So have fun floundering. So they're just all watching them. And you see Kyle physically getting like, oh, I mean, oh, he's getting so upset. And everyone else is just staying calm and looking at them like they're fucking crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Boz is like, look, if you have something to say, just go to the person and say it. And Amanda's like, oh, I remember Bose saying that I can't control. how other people behave in a friendship. And she's telling me right now how to act, aren't you more mature than this, Bose? I'm like, I think, like, I get the logic of what you're saying. But I think what the sentiment is, is that you can't control how if people are offended or not offended.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Like you can't, like, you can't control people's emotional reactions. She's not saying, like, you can't control if someone decides to go and gossip to other people first before they come and confront you. She's saying, if you want to, like, succeed in your interactions, just come to me first. She's not trying to control you. She's giving you a strategy for how to grow and to improve the interaction. She talks like her bots online talk. You know, there's been a lot of Reddit speculation on whether she's hiring bots to go fight for her online
Starting point is 00:37:54 because they're from these accounts that seem like they're bot and paid for bots because they were answering things like, okay, we're hiring people to social media people to go on and, you know, basically give their opinions or whatever for pay. and these people are responding, okay, I want in. And then suddenly they're showing up and they're fighting for Amanda. And all of the arguments are the same. And they started posting all these threads that are like, well, Bose has a workshop where the first thing, she says, this is how to do something.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Then the second thing, she says, this is how to do this in business. And the third one is how to do this in business. But the fourth one is, well, this workshop will teach you how to take all the lessons from the first three workshops and manifest them into your life. So she's using the word manifest. Isn't she a hypocrite because of how she's treating Amanda? It's like, no, because she's using manifest in a way that's like, I've taught you things. Now I'm going to tell you how to bring these things, you know, how to make these work in your real life.
Starting point is 00:38:53 But they're always missing the point. And they're like, but wait, isn't Bose doing the same thing that Amanda is doing? And it's just, I'm only pointing that out because it's been happening all week where there's like these attack Bose posts that are clearly by bots because everybody's like, shut up bot, you know, like everybody knows at this point. But it's funny because the same language and the same tone they're using is exactly Amanda right now. Like, but wait, Bose told me this thing, but now she's doing it too. Aren't you more mature than this, Bose? Like, girl, we can see you. You're not even a good, you talk like a robot and you're not even a good online bot. Yeah, seriously. So Kathy had decided that this is, this is boring now. I mean, it was boring the whole time.
Starting point is 00:39:38 time, to be honest. And she just is like, let me give some, let me just say something generic that will just end this. So she goes, sometimes we go through things and we get to an even better place. Am I right? Like, that has nothing to do with anything. But now they're just sitting there quietly and Amanda's just like eating her pizza. Jennifer's like, thank you Buddha Kathy. So Cal's like, where did Dorico? Where did Dorico? She's Maddo. Someone bit, look at, look after. Did she fall in the pool? Is she doing opera in the theater? Oh my God. Be careful, everyone. Who knows what she is? I don't know what she's doing.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I just know the world is wait for that bitch. And Amanda's like, so it bothers you that she comes late and leaves early? Yes, it does bother me. We all stop agreeing. Now, stop lying. Just stop lying. So, guys, guys, I checked the Hamptons. I called every single store in the Hamptons.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Doreet isn't there. But guess what? She's in a room. Yeah. So she's being a drama queen. And Kyle's like, oh, God, you know, if Bose was, were honest, she'd say that that's rude, but I mean, it's giving Irish goodbye, but we're in Italy. So, Boz was like, well, a lot's been said tonight, a lot to reflect on. I think it's time to
Starting point is 00:40:46 wrap up and go to sleep. So Jennifer goes to the chapel and she's like, Dear Lord, please help us stop fighting. Chalm. Chim. Chim. Chum, jim. The Reed is now sitting with Rachel and Bose. And she reads like, gee, I felt like I would see the twilight zone. Whatever Kyle was doing felt like she was trying to defend something that didn't need defending. And Bo's like, well, I think that Amanda is very cunning.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I could see it when she was deflecting. She has to make herself a victim in every situation so she then doesn't have to take accountability. So in the other room, Amanda's like, Kyle, thank you for making points that I couldn't make. I'm just like really sorry that you experienced that today. It was definitely not on fleek. Well, I think on the whole, I'm making progress with the group with letting them get to know me and hear me in my heart. Amanda's not clear or honest about her life.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Yeah, like who's behind the fucking curtain. That's you. No, that's my outfit. No, it's just my outfit. I mean like figuratively. Well, she's setting a mindset that she wants to impart and recruit others, into. And look, this is going to be a very controversial thing to say. Are you ready? She's built a cult. There, I said it.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Br-da! She walked away from one and she built another. I can't. So finally, someone has said it. And now we've said it. And now we've said it. Well, what will happen? What will happen? Now that Amanda's been accused of being a cult leader herself. Well, we'll find out. In the meantime, thank you all for being here and joining us for this. Somehow, we wound up talking a lot more about this episode than there was actually content in it, which is crazy. But that's just what we do at Crappins.
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