Watch What Crappens - #3272 Ladies of London S4E04: Going Hard in the Paint

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

At a nude painting session on Ladies of London, Missé tries to confront Kimi about her callous commentary, but no trauma dumping will move our favorite expat. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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So just go over there. Hit subscribe. And that newsletter is just going to arrive in your inbox. Okay? And this week we'll be talking about lots of stuff, including more South by Southwest stuff. So that's all the exciting stuff on that front. Today we are back in the wondrous, wonderful show known as Ladies of London, season four, episode four, naked truths.

And the episode opens up with Mark Francis getting out of a car and announcing, Americans tend to be very openly emotional. Can you tell the amount of disgust in my voice when I say that? Elishal. And we see on the screen in pink text, emotions, Brits versus non-Britz. And we cut to mic, I'm like, oh, my God, I'm just so sad. I'm just so sad. And Marco being like, oh, my God, I'm going to cry.

I'm going to cry right now. And then we just cut to Emma, who's like, keep calm and carry on is all motto. Maybe we should talk about stuff more. I don't know. And then that's Martha saying that to Emma. And Emma's just like, oh, talk about stuff more. Disgusting. I don't know.

How awful to feel. nation. Never. You know, it's, oh, and then Margot's like, it's kind of the Brett's armor, though, to just, like, step it all down forever and then just die. Yes, the Scandinavian culture is very honest, almost too honest. I'm going to go to Kimmy, and she's like, I just can't stunt people with a verbal time real about everything I feel. And we see a flashback of her back then be like, oh, my God, her brother died. like wow wow why am i right blonk to blonk

so now we're back in the streets of london and lottie and her husband joshua they are dressed at the nines as usual in suits like matching suits that are like tailored within a centimeter of their bodies i mean this guy has some true talent in terms of like fitting they are always wearing suits that are like perfect and um lottie

she's like i would like a tennis bracelet has a push present and She says, I feel like we're actually a bit more traditional than people would think we are. He's like, yes, I would say we have a very traditional feelings and values, sugarcoated in a very unconventional-looking relationship. He's not this way of talking about him. He's like, I would say they're very conventional, but also unconventional. Why do you look like you were drawn by Bob's burgers? Why?

Why do you look like you're in an old commercial for Guinness? So they go to this jewelry store We're just like very homely lady With like a little headband on and stuff It's like, hello, welcome back. Good to see you again. Welcome to Pembridge Pocca Farms. It's like it had a very like,

It's like Piccadilly jolers. And they are there to look at tennis bracelets And other bibles and jewels. Yeah. And they're looking at like 80,000 pounds and all these crazy, expensive things. And Josh was like, well, I do love this for women's watch,

but I don't know, it's for women. Is this too untraditional in our traditional relationship? She remembered that time I brought you flowers. Wasn't it traditional? Oh, traditionalism. It's our kink. So you went to a wine tasting. Was it traditional wine?

How was that? And she was like, oh, it was quite nice. They all opened up a lot, and so I do sort of felt, I sort of felt like I could open up about my dad's cancer. And like, you know, how you talk about what you've been through and stuff. He's like, oh, yes, he's been had a run. We're not talking about the cancer now, are we? We are still British, right?

Do we have to talk about things? When we got together, like, that was sad because he's such a big part of our romance. God, I love daddy's storylines and romance, you know? And then you said that your dad, you were just like blown away the opportunity that your dad might not walk you down the aisle. That was so, so sad. Yes, and it was really nice. And then Missy sort of opened up about her brother being murdered. And he goes, oh, master, God.

While you were having wine, please tell me while food was being served. How untraditional. Do I have a boner? Yes, and the only person didn't really say anything that deep was Kimmy. I mean, she could speak Haitian, but we all knew that. I'm like, Kimmy went first pretty much, right? I think she was the first one to go. Like, you can't blame her.

She didn't know that it was going to go deeper than that. She was also not the only one because it got to Margo and Margo's like, I gave a hand job to a guy in a movie and he came all over my hand and I'm famous now. Like, she's in the same thing. Yeah, get over it, Ladi. She's like, I mean, if we're talking about Kimmy, she's not British, but I do think in general it's quite a British thing to not really share how we're feeling and just to sort of get on with things. And I think a lot of people in a group do have that side of them. And I said, then why are you mad at Kimmy for it? She's just trying to fit in.

Yeah. She was like, well, I think we're going to have to peer back those layers a little bit more. Listen, to everybody who wants to peel the onion, stop. Onions smell. They make you smell all day. And they make you cry. If you see an onion, leave it the fuck alone. And as an onion, let me tell you, don't try to peel me.

You're going to walk away from here crying. Stop with us. Try to peel the onion. Okay. Also, I've got bad news for you, something that I discovered watching the feature film heroes, starring Gina Davis. when you peel that onion, guess what you find in the middle? Nothing! There's nothing in the middle of the onion!

There's a scene in that movie early on where Gina Davis is like giving a speech. And I saw this movie only once in eighth grade and this has stayed with me. And Gina Davis brings out an onion during her speech. And she starts peeling it. She was like, sometimes in life you peel back the onion. And that's what we do. As journalists, we peel and we peel and we peel. And she starts crying because of the onion.

And she's like, we peel, can we peel. And guess what? In the end, there's nothing there. And I was like, wow, Gina Davis. I'm going to remember that for the rest of my life. life. And I haven't ever mentioned that until right now in the podcast. 30 years later, I'm like, guys, formative onion experience I had with Gina Davis. Yeah, that's true. I just give us so much. So she picks out a 30,000 pound tennis bracelet, and he's like, oh, my God. She says, yes, but every time I look

down, I'll say, my vagina did that. You said vagina in Pembley Pickleston. How un-traditional. Boner, boner achieved. Does it smell like chives in here? Onions, you know. So now we go to a Bentley, and Micah is meeting up with Margo. And Micah, she, Micah's very- She's very-during her class. Yeah.

This is the part where we see her doing her class. It's hilarious. She's like trying to give etiquette lessons to Muppets. She's like, this is how you hold a Borg. And the Muppet's like, oh, that's how we're doing. It's like, oh, my God, I can't even get through a scene. This is just too much. Yeah, so she has a class.

She's all dressed up for it. She's dressed very formally. And they arrive at a spa. And I'm like, this is the way all British spas look like? They look like they're in an embassy. And so they're sitting there, like in these like beautiful sofas in a lobby. And Margo's like, I really like Micah. She's not what I expected at all.

She merely gives me a feeling of warmth and being invited and safety. She's sort of like the hand job of friends, you know? It's just a great vibe. So Micah's like, Micah's like being friends with a customer service representative, like that's pre-recorded, you know, like when you call somebody and they're like, we're so glad that you're here.

Please press one if you'd like this in English or press two if you'd like this in Spanish. I mean, she's nice, but she's nice in that, like, hi, how are you? Kind of way. I just don't trust her. I mean, I feel like it's me moving to Mexico and, like, offering a tortilla class.

You know, like, why are you doing that? This is not your place. Yeah. So they're talking about husbands. And Margo's husband is from Lebanon and he's Lebanese, Armenian. And we have a flashback of Margo talking to her family. She's like trying to face time with her family and no one wants to look at her. And she's like, his dad wants to say hi. And he's like, not right now, which seems to be an ongoing theme on the show of the husbands, not wanting to be seen on any face times. We just saw that with Micah last week, right? Where she's like, hi, honey, you traveling again? No. Yeah, I think that's why she likes Micah because both their husbands hate them, you know? And she's like, honey, you need to say hi to me. Please just say hi to me. Okay, he's like, I'm having coffee. She's like, okay, well, hi.

He's like, hi, okay, hang up on your mother now. So back to present. She's like, he did not want to marry me because he had a really traumatic experience. And so I was like, we're having a baby. So, yeah, I made him go to a chaplain Vegas. Yep, I was like, you're marrying me. Isn't that romantic? What could go wrong?

What could go wrong? What could go wrong? So she goes, my husband's an entrepreneur and he's very successful. We met at a party and I was like living in Los Angeles and it was like six weeks before COVID happened and I didn't expect to have any connections out of this party whatsoever. But then he just gave me a hug, goodbye and like I know this will sound really dramatic, but it felt like the whole universe passed right between us. I'm like, oh yeah.

The planets were like, get me away from this relationship. We are passing. We pass. We pass on this relationship. He's a real haughty. I'm sure it had nothing to do. with the fact that he's rich, this fucking guy. She's like, this guy hates her.

She's like, oh my God, I just knew right from the beginning when I heard how much money. That was it. And so she's saying that her boys come in nine days and he still had boys from his first marriage. So they just became a family very quickly. And Micah says, well, is the idea that everyone comes over here permanently?

She's like, well, I just want to introduce them to the UK because all my work has been here. I mean, I've not made one person come on film. in America. You know, you just, you just follow the fountains, is what I say. There's just so much pressure because in my family, my family's against me spending time in the UK and it's like really greatly reduces my ability to be here. I'm like, yeah, because they live in Los Angeles and you came out here to do a reality show and they're like, we don't want to leave L.A. So the masseuse comes by, her name is comfort, which of course

they enjoy. And now they're getting massages. And Margaret's talking about foot fetishes. is and she says it's like, foot fetishes exist because the part of the brain that recognizes the foot is right beside the part of the brain that enjoys sexual activity and sometimes their wires get crossed. I was like, I would like to see the documentation on that. But for some reason, that does not sound true.

Yeah, I've never heard that. The foot part of the brain, this is not like two aisles of the library and someone put the book in the wrong aisle. I don't know. I'm just too lazy to look it up myself. And I also don't know if I care enough. Yeah, I'm wondering if that's like if some people that's feet and some people it's like Snickers bars or something.

So Micah's like, no way. No, it's true. And so they see feet and they're like, whoa, bummer time. You know what I mean? Okay. So listen, I feel like I barely saw you yesterday, mostly because we were in the car. And it's like, I know, you know one part of that lunch. I really appreciate it.

It was how vulnerable we got to me. It's just like slicing open our souls and letting them bleed all over each other. God, it felt good. Yeah, the stuff with Missy, that was like a real life nightmare. And then we cut over to Missy's flat. And she facetimes her sister, Valentina. And she's like, my sister's husband is a soccer player. He signed a contract in Dubai, so they moved out there for two years.

And my sister is like my best friend. She supports me and she always tells me straight. And she reminds me of who I am. She's amazing. Isn't that amazing America? And then she starts talking about. She tells Valentina about the winery. And she says, how is the first?

time she'd opened up about their brother and she got very choked up, but it was also very healing for her. Yeah. And so she's talking about going to visit the grave and the sister's like, yes, it's, you know, it affects everything, our comfort zones, because we always have this fear in us. And we've been doing so good and I'm so proud of you. And then back to Micah and Margo, Micah's like, yeah, and I think that was a big moment for her to open up like that. I mean, gosh, it's like she got up, she took that microphone and she sang that number of karaoke and it was just great margot's like oh yeah but like kimmie she hated that part like when we were on the way home she was like flashback to the car well i mean some drug related thing like let's not make it into some fucking sob story am i right

mark goes like it is a sob story and she is right so um micha's like oh that's tough margot goes i know that's her coping mechanism though you know but i do feel like missy needs to know Because if Missy feels like she's in a safe space to share and she's not, she should know that. No, I'm sorry, Margo. This bitch just met this whole group of people and there's cameras in her face and she's on reality TV. And for one moment she thought she was in a, she knew she always knew she was never in a safe space. There's nothing about any part of that scene while everyone's getting drunk that said, this is a safe space. She told the story.

It's a very sad story. But she was trying to kind of have like a moment. I'm sure the producers also told her, by the way, when it comes to. you, you have to tell the story. So, like, I'm sure that was part of it. But, like, not this, like, oh my God, we have to protect her because she didn't realize it wasn't a safe space. It was like, no shit, it wasn't a safe space. Why would you ever think, like, why would you like, just like, blah, I'm just going to announce this to a bunch of people I don't know. Like, sorry, I'm not going to co-sign with Margot on this one. Yeah, you're on TV. You're doing this in front of people on camera and

even going like, good luck following that one up at the end when you told your story. So, Yeah, people are going to have an opinion and that's just how it is. And it's not your business. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappence commercial. So we go to Kimmy at her house and she calls Micah. And Micah's like, oh my God, what is that behind you? And she's like, oh, that's a Seth bird.

That's an Egyptian sacred ibis from like 1840. Isn't it fabulously dead? Hey, give me a high five. It can't because it's dead. I killed it and stuffed it. She goes, she goes, yeah, they're extinct now, actually. God, don't you hate those weak species that can't even live?

Oh, I've been collecting taxidermy for 30 years. I've always been obsessed with odd things. You know, like an amazing piece of taxidermy is the way the animal is preserved and that way it's posed is beautiful. It's under the glass jars. It's painted that's done in taxidermy form. My favorite is the first. find something that doesn't even exist when extinct and say, you're so stupid. I mean, like, I'm supposed to care about the fact that you don't live on this planet anymore.

I mean, get over it, right? Blonk, blonk. I love, oh, my past, be dead. You know, you don't have to pick a poo. You don't have to fade them. They just sit there and they look at my thing. Cut to Martha's blood coming down her eyes from her bag pie. I love this.

Kimmy just like. Well, look, I know I'm a little morbid, you know, but listen, I was just calling to everybody to see if your freedom art comes to like a little art thing. I am doing some painting and some drawing, you know, some real stupid stuff. We could talk about life things. We can finally have fun after that drag of a wine tears, am I right? So we see her talking to everybody on the phone, asking everybody individually, yeah, you know, we'll have a few drinks maybe, and I don't know, get a little naughty.

Are you ready for it? I think that's a formidable idea. Well, also, I was going to say, that last event we went to, we just got so sad, and everyone's telling some really sad, sob stories. Let's just hope nobody's family members have been gunned down this time, because it would really mean I'd have some balk-de-wong-wong while we paint some cock. Everyone cried, the wine got them whining. Oh, that's a good one. Why don't you laugh at that, Kimmy?

I mean, thank God I got out of that. I have never heard of an occasion in which wine has made people miserable. What on earth went so fundamentally wrong? So now we go to Kimmy talking to Martha, and Martha's like, Oh, are you going to have a naked model? Oh, it's a surprise, Martha. Just show up, all right? Well, I'm certainly not doing a still life.

Oh, well, me too, unless there's a banana. Don't you like bananas? Are we painting or are we drawing? Well, we may do a combination. Depends on how drunk we get, right? We'll see what happens. I don't think it's going to be anything too messy, though, right? Any excuse for nudity?

So we go to a museum and it is Mark's house. I mean, this is the old queen dream. It's just antiques. Everything is gilded. In America, it would be a Trump property. It's just like gold, you know. It's a rococo explosion. Okay.

Everything is like little gold twirlies and swirlies and leaves and details and gilded. It's just, it's madness. And so Emma comes over. You know, Emma always walks, she's like a supermodel and she just always sort of slinks in with it. Like she always has like some, it's like strappy kind of like back exposed thing. She just effortly walks into this gilded madness. And she's like, Mark lives in this beautiful place that's so pristine.

I mean, artistically, oh God, you're so divine and intelligently curated, although it feels weird that it's not a rhinoceros there. Anyway, Mark, I love how unchild-friendly your spaces are. He goes, ooh, what is a child? I do try to curate my environment. I work in the art world. History, design, detail, so important to me. I work with Christie's, the auction house.

You might have heard of it. Oh, God. I'm an asthet. Is that what it's called? Asthete. It's a full-time, Asthete. It's a full-time job,

and we see Asthete, a person who has a special appreciation of art and beauty. And he's on the phone looking through a book. He's like, can I please see the Sugarloaf Emerald. Oh, thrilling. Sugar-loaf emerald. It's like,

my home is a very honest reflection of my soul, gilded. Now, excuse me, I have some vasework to do. Could I see Lot 49, please? May I see what vase is there? Is that the Sugarloaf Emerald? No? It's disgusting.

There, thank you. I just wanted to call and let you know that. Christy, you slut. Well, everything here is just so delicate, Mark. Including us. Cheers. I think I do so much in life to avoid reality because I find reality quite scary.

Yes, of course it is. But I'm always endlessly grateful for life, and that's why I do too much. As one lady once said, I do too much because you do too little. I don't follow. Neither do I. I don't know how that got into my head. But everyone always says to me, why are you so active?

You, Emma. Superactive Emma is what I'm known for. Look at me. Look at me being full of energy right now, Mark. I can't stop. Because I'll start thinking. And it all wraps back to that health scare I had. And he's like, oh, God, we're talking about this.

When I was pregnant, that was really, really. really, it reared its head again. And he just raises his eyebrows, which is impressive. Because his face, when I tell you, this man's face does not move, like even an inch. So for him to raise his eyebrows, I was like, oh, my God, that is, that is a motion. Well done. Olivier. Olivier.

Get him at Olivier. So, Emma tells us that when she was pregnant with her son, that she basically got an MRI, and they found, like, a brain bleed on her pituitary gland. and she basically gets scans every year to monitor it. They give her steroids and it was like a very scary thing. And so she says that she recently went in for a scan and they said it had jumped so much in size that it would now be in a category that's serious. And Marcus is like, oh my God, do I have to access my emotions for this? Because I'm not sure I can do that.

Let me just kiss you strangely on the cheek. Okay. For kissed you on the cheek, we can finish this conversation now. Can we talk about vase's and sugarloaf embrids? Yeah, and she talks about her full-body MRI and finding cysts and stuff like that. And she's like, and that's why I take on more challenges. And it makes me sad, but nothing makes me feel better like cleaning up rilo shit. So thank God for that.

And they talk about how coping is, you know, just working. And he's like, but you really do need to look after yourself, darling. She's like, well, we're not meditative, you and I. We're just not patient people. He goes, if I stop and meditate, I start thinking about things that I want to buy. Harrod's is my meditation. I'm sorry. But, no, like literally, it's silly, and I'm not even outwardly sad about it.

That's like a really private inward thing, actually. Yes, but that's the thing. You and I are always privately concerned about things, but we never talk about anything with anyone. I know, we just keep calm and carry on. Let's go, like, yes. I don't know for how long one can do that. And they're like, they're like, yes. They hold hands.

But we'll try. Well, sure as hell, try. Squeeze each other's hands. And she's like, I only want to make sure that I'm strong and well enough because I am responsible for my children. He's like, oh, you're not just responsible for your children, by the way. You're responsible for your husband. And you are decidedly responsible for me.

Oh, yes, I know. I'm sorry. Okay. So you're not going anywhere. We've solved this. There's been too much emotion for me. I'm on the verge of potentially thinking about crying, and I'm quite unpleasantly surprised by that. So shall we wrap this up with a little another kiss on your cheek, please? Just one more thing. You're not dying around this group, because Kimmy will definitely stuff you and sit you right next to a bird for eternity. So now we go to Missy's very sad apartment. It's just like, all white and like has like three chairs lined up against the wall all facing the same direction and margot comes over and miss is like oh look welcome to my house it's not done but i think it's it's well along the way and you can tell margot's like can i just go to someone's normal apartment for once between this and martha like what are these places that you guys live in no kidding this one was crazy so um missy is like oh my god wait who's she talking to margot

So Margo's like, oh my God, last thing I want to do is tell Missy the Kim did the thing that she was terrified of them doing. She just didn't want people to judge her brother. So Missy is like sitting in like a stool in the corner and she's like, well, I think the vineyard went well. And Marco's like, uh, if she finds out it happened and I didn't tell her, that's going to be a very sticky place to be. I'm like, you would be fine. You had nothing to do with it. You were inserting yourself into this drama and trying to act like you're doing it to be a good friend and you're just being. messy, Margo. So, miss he's like, well, I was happy that there was no one making fun of my brother. What? What? You're making face. You're making American face. I'm scared. Oh, what are you going to do now? Are you going to shoot me? American face?

Well, I've actually had a pit in my stomach all day. I'm literally so nervous. Okay, you know how we all shared something that was like personal to us? I talked about a guy coming all over me on screen and you talked about a dead brother. Well, Kimmy was just like, oh, I really hated that. That wasn't real. And then, we get a flashback where Kimmy's like, oh, God, I know that story. And it was just like some drug-related thing. Well, that's what the press said. I mean, who knows what the real story was? Well, I'm just saying, let's not make it into some fucking sob story. Back to present. What?

Margo's like, yeah, I was like, Kimmy, that's a real sob story that was in the press. And she was like, oh, come on. That just happens with drugs. Like, I don't think, can me go back to Kimmy saying, You know, everybody says they're on whips. I'm ex of the big stank. But like it's sad and it's horrible, but it is what it is. Yeah.

I mean, there's really no sticking up for Kimmy what she actually said because she did kind of say all this stuff. She's not big. Because there was one point where she's like, oh, my God, everyone's crying with drugs. It was just drunks. Yeah, but still, well, I mean, come on. I mean, that happens.

That's what happens with drugs. So Missy is like, that's not fucking cool. She's well, I would be like, well, so Missy says like, yeah, well, he should have died, you know, because he knew whatever. Like, oh, please. She's like, I feel very hot from Kimmy. The reason why I don't talk about this is because I always expect someone to have something to say about it. So for her to be the one that goes and says that she's a woman, she's a mother.

I'm like, I fully get that because there was scandal attached to this. And like, you know, everyone is saying, oh, it was a hit. There were drugs. And like, it's frustrating that like this tragedy happened. And you just want to be like, can we just like honor that this person died instead of like, talking about the drugs and everything, but also like, why are did you, like, this is, you're just like, you brought it to a reality TV show and like they're, it's just, they're going to say shit like this, you know?

Yeah, I mean, and that is what the news story is. I don't know if you've looked it up, but it's dark. I mean, it is, it isn't just like some guy got shot and it is like, you know, they were thinking it's like gang and, you know, drug and all the stuff. I mean, he was shot 10 times. They came right up and shot him. It was, it's a horrible horror. I mean, still, though, whatever it, you know, if you were, if someone was like, my, my family member is in the mob and he got shot.

Inside, you'd be thinking, well, duh, but you don't say that. You know what I mean? Yeah. And by the way, I think it is. I think I read like a little headline about it. I read the whole thing. But it was Missy was was, was Kimmy being callous. Yes, she was. To be fair, she wasn't being callous to miss his face. But she was being callous. But also, you know, Missy doing this whole thing of luck. But if I like, like, like, she's doing. them a favor by telling this story, you know? And it's like, you know, I don't know, like, like, when she's like, I don't talk about this because people always have something to say about it. It's like, why did you bring it up here at this group then? Why? Like, this is not the way to do it. And also, you know, I just, I find the whole thing fascinating just because it's kind of how reality, and I said this last week, you know, so I'm kind of repeating, but it's just how reality TV is now where you just have to bring up every trauma. And that's the way that you get

capital on these shows. It's like, But it doesn't even matter. I mean, if you're on top chef and it's nearing the finals, they are not going to pick you. If you're like, I'm just a happy person who's well adjusted and has worked hard. And now I'm a good chef. You have to have some trauma. And it comes to the point where people are making it up. It's like, well, I had a red wagon.

And my brother pushed me in it. And I went too fast. And I hit a stop sign. And now I can't think straight. So it's so hard for me to cook. And they're like, oh, my God, but you still did it. Oh, after that red wagon trauma. And then they'll give you the prize.

But they're not going to give it. So I think they're all kind of trained to do this. And especially Missy is someone who's a real housewife and stuff. She's like, here I go. It's time to introduce ourselves. And this is my thing. I'm going to get my trauma out. And it's going to be great, you know.

And so she does her big number. And Kimmy is just that person like me in the audience who's so sick of this shit. I'm sick of it. And it's like someone does that. And then the response is like an audience response. It's like, oh, for fuck's sake, I'm fast forwarding through this, you know. Yeah. Like, why do I have to listen to this?

Can I just have some wine? Can I just watch Top Chef? It's, and like, quite frankly, I think one of the reasons why this show is being received so well. I mean, it's a great show. But also, there's so much shit going on the world, you know, like, you know, groceries are a million dollars. There's a war now. The economy, gas prices are up. There's just, there's just stuff ice, you know, is coming.

Like, there's just, there's just so many things that are terrible that are happening. And when we turn to these shows, we turn to reality TV, we want an escape and we turn and we just like, you're right. Reality TV sort of has become a thing of like, look what happened to me. Look what happened to me. And there was a time and a place where that was actually a weird balm to what was going on in our lives. But right now, I think we just want to say, shut the fuck up. I'm not trying to focus on the dark shit right now. And it started in a good place.

An hour of peace. And that started like that. whole trend started coming from a good place. It's like when the world got more sensitive. And it was like, you know what? You can't say this. This is hurtful. And this hurts people's feelings. And like, let's put, let's put, you know, non-traditional people on TV who aren't just like beautiful washboard abs people. And like, let's put people on with real stories and like real pain. And so I think all of that comes from a good place. But then real reality, you know, reality star, like kind of the typical reality star person saw that and was like, oh my God, well, I'm doing it too.

So, you know, you've got this person. Maybe they've got like one leg and only made it to second grade because they had to work the rest to make their family survive. Okay, well, I have a trauma. And guess what? My abs hurt, you know? Like becomes this thing where everybody is trying to outdo each other with the latest trend of like vomiting their personal shit all over TV for social capital. And it got to the point where it's just gross. It's just become gross now. And the key thing that you just said is for social capital. Because I actually don't know if we, the audience, are, I don't think we have a hard time with learning about people and their past and the tough things that they've gone through.

We just had the scene with Emma and Mark. And that was interesting and captivating to learn about our health struggles. It's like when you're at a wine, we're watching a group scene, a wine tasting. And someone basically says, oh, here's my tragedy. and now the entire show has to come to a halt. And it's kind of like, oh, I'm going to just dump my trauma right here in this middle, in the middle of like a fun scene. Just so that way I kind of get some cred and like, look at me.

Look what I go through. And it just sort of, it's annoying. And that's where it's like, oh, my God, we're just trying to enjoy a scene. Like if you have these individual scenes where we learned about people, it's fine. But it's all about the context. And I'm just like, I think we're all just over it. We just want to like have the fun scenes. And that's why it's like when Kimmy is sort of like unrelenting in her stance about this, it's like really refreshing.

It is. And you see the other cast members on this show have all done it in a less ham-handed way. I mean, Kimmy herself did. She talked about her background and her growing. It was fucking sad the stuff she was saying. You have this one, the people that we're talking to, wait, who are we? Oh, Martha. Martha's story. is extremely sad and honest. Emma just told a very sad and honest. Even Mark, you know, was like, I don't have a relationship with my dad. Right. You know, they've all told really deep things, but they're more believable because they're not being showy about it. They're not doing a fucking number about it. And they're telling us, they're not like making it a public like, all right, guys, it's time for my story.

Here it is. They're doing it in a very private, honest way. I mean, there's just a fine line in how this stuff comes off. I think Missy doesn't seem like a bad person and I don't want to like completely beat her over the head with it. We don't want to just the argument for the show. Right. It's not even that. It's just how you handle it is very different. And I think how they handled it. However one else on the show has handled theirs has been real and it's felt real. Whereas miss is felt performative. And it's yes. Performative. There's the word. And it's like we want to go back to the onion. We want to peel the onion. We don't want to cut it in half and smother it all over our face. So. Anyway, the point is that Missy is upset. And honestly, she has a right to be because Kimmy is being an asshole about it. I mean, Kimmy was a total asshole.

I would never, like even this whole conversation we're having, I don't think I would ever be like that. I don't think. Where I'm just like, oh, God, shut up. Drugstore. Of course, it was drugs, you know, maybe to you and private in a car, I would do that. But, yeah. Yeah, but it's also like what Missy's doing is not that different. than what Amanda Francis did, you know, at that dinner to get out of a tough conversation.

So it's like, and you're like, you, it's like, oh, you can't joke about it. You can't joke about it because these are serious things that happen. But it does feel like, oh, but it's also being used in a strategic way. So now we're at Emma's house and Emma's getting ready. And Martha, Martha calls up. She goes, oh, are you ready for today? I think there's going to be some kind of beef. And Emma's like, what happened?

It's like, so Margo went full of drink. with Missy and all that Kimmy has been a bit little bit flippant. Missy really is really, really, really upset. And I also gave her the kids to my house. I don't know what I was thinking. I just gave them to. I felt so bad. Then Missy calls Micah and catches her up on it.

And Martha is saying, well, you know, Kimmy, she doesn't like talking about emotion. Does she really very much? And then he's like, well, we don't do it. English people just don't do that. We say less in those moments, probably. She's like, well, I know that she's not actually British, but, you know, Kimi tells emotions like a Brit. She drinks them. Okay, she doesn't feel them.

So Emma's like, yes, I think we are. That's what I've always said. I love emotions. They are delicious. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I think we have to let them deal with it. They better serve drinks at this thing. So we're at the event, because it's a Kimi is now.

You think they're not going to serve drinks? They will. Kimmy's at the event. She's at the space where they're going to be doing this painting. And Kimmy's getting a tour. And then Dev, the model, comes out. And he's like in a row. She's like, okay, how about this? Why don't you remove your robe? I want to just get a preliminary view to make see what we're working with here. And so he like drops his rope. She's like, okay. Very nice. Turn around. Okay. Very nice. Very good. Okay. Spin around. Okay. Now, can you hold in your hand.

Okay. Now, there's someone named Margo coming. You have ever seen her a movie? Do you think you'd be prepared for her? Okay. Great. You're doing great. Great job, Dev. This was so good. She's like, all right, drop the robe. Looking good. Wow. Well done, Dev. Well done. She's saying, well done, Dev.

Well, done. So people start coming and drinking. And Micah's like, oh, gosh, Martha, I just wanted to reach out to you because Margo told me there was some crazy, scary things happening to you. And we just get a flashback to Margo being like, oh, God. Martha's like, oh, I hired this painter. And then he quit. And she texted the guy.

Did you drop the keys? in the letterbox and she never gets an answer. So now he knows where she lives. Oh my God. I can't be friends with this stupid woman anymore. And we come back and she goes, oh, you mean with the builder? Yeah. Yeah, that was difficult.

Jimmy's like, oh my God, you're going to get raped or murdered. Listen, I know. Mark has already told me that, told me, that's full. Let's do the flashback. Like, oh, my God, if I found your dead body, I'm never going to be. I'm taking a step away for this relationship. Yeah, she really yelled at me last week when I was

wearing a fess, so it was all good. But like, are you okay? She goes, oh, I'm okay, but I found it really scary at the time. She's like, well, maybe this was a good warning and maybe it's what you needed to just be careful more next time. She's like, oh, I've got to stop

giving them chances. You know, Margo's approach has made me pay attention, but I prefer Micah's, for sure. So what happened? What happened? Did she get the keys back? I guess she did. So Lari arrives and she's like, well, everyone, in case you didn't know, I'm pregnant.

And the baby was upside down, legs and they are giving a thumbs up. And Martha goes, oh, it's like Kimmy, you're having a little gimmie. Is it drunk? Is it already speaking Creole? They're like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Commercials. Here comes one right now. So we go to the car with Mark.

He's picking up Emma and he's wearing jeans. And he sees her and he's like, oh my God. You're such slag. I can hardly bring myself to come to terms with the extent of your sluggishness. What are you showing knees? And she's like, hello, slag. By the way, what are these exactly that you're wearing? He's like, we're painting. What are you talking about? She's like, I did not even know that Mark owned a pair of jeans. I'm quite shocked. I thought he was going to see Cowboy Carter, but he doesn't know what that is either. Bad reference. I know. I'm surprised he wasn't like, you mean cowboy? Cartier.

This is the one instance in which I can wear jeans and feel like they're in some way appropriate to the activity I'm about to perform. Shut up! I'm hanging out with Americans.

What else am I supposed to wear? So now Kimmy is telling Ladi to go eat. She's like, goy, you're skinny and pregnant. Just stay away from blonde, blah. Every time I eat a banana, I get a new boyfriend.

There's no elegant way to eat a banana, though, is there? And there's actually, Micah has actually made a video where she puts the banana on a plate and she cuts around the edge of the banana, unpeels it, and cuts little slices. I was like, that's not etiquette. That's ridiculous. Extra.

That is just, how does this woman have a business? I would unsubscribe immediately if someone was like, How to properly eat a banana with a knife and fork? Fuck off. So, and then back to the party. Emma and Mark arrive. And he's like, oh, hello, we've come to disgrace you with our presents. Oh, God, Kimmy, you're matching the drink. She's like, well, that's the kind of slut that I am. You want a banana?

So, Emma tells Kimmy that she had her injection for Nairobi, and she had to get all these, because she's going there for the 10K. So she had to get like, you know, all these disease like the vaccines and stuff. The vaccines, thank you. I can remember the word. So Kimmy's like, well, what did you have? Yellow fever, hepatitis A?

And she tells us about the charity and how she's been an ambassador for Tusk for many years and Longleet has supported them for many years. And Kimmy's like, oh God, see, when you're from Heidi, you don't have to do anything. I've had cholera, I've had malaria.

Emma goes, if they bite you, they'll die first. Yes, that's what I always say every time I have a banana. Well, that's a skidder that got me became an alcoholic. Margo and Missy are arriving. They're in the car. And Margo's like, how are you feeling about going in right now? Did I make you mad enough?

And she's like, I feel fine. Like, I feel like we should go and have a few drinks. Say hi to everyone. And then, you know, I'll just take her aside at some point. Yeah, maybe before she's had a drink, though, because, you know, she's an alcoholic. Let's put that out there. okay. But she drinks so fast. How am I supposed to do it before we have a drink? I need to say something to Kimmy, but I can't keep this feeling in me. I want her to know it's not okay to be so cruel.

I need to get it out of my system. I hope she apologize. I'm an honest Scandinavian. That's how we are. We're all honest. I have to let it out. And so back at the party, Lottie's asking Kimmy how she is. And she's like, well, I haven't seen anyone have spoken since the winery. And she says, Really? Oh, God. I mean, that was just such a traumatic experience. I had to recover for three days. So, Missy and Margo arrived,

but, like, Kimmy and Lottie are still talking. She goes, I mean, people are either two things. There are fountains or their drains, and most people are drains. And most people are drains. I loved that. I've never heard that before. Their fountains are their drains, and most people are drains. Well said. I know. I made sure...

I rewounded to make sure Dom heard that. I was like, Tom, did you hear that? That was good. It was a really in Texas. We have we have tons of sayings written on dish towels and I've never seen that one. That's a good. That was it was a brilliant fountains or drains. I was like it's just so perfect.

So Margo. Here's Margo. So they come in and Kimmy, uh, can we see some together? And Missy tries to be kind of bitchy. She's like, um,

hello. And Kimmy's like, oh gosh. I heard from a little birdie that maybe a magpie, but Missy's upset, and I just don't know why. I am pissed at her. Well, I just haven't the time for life is too short. So I'm just going to try to have a good time. So they head upstairs for the artistic experience and Dev comes out in his robe and he like drops it and they all start to paint. But Mark is like clutching his pearls. It's like, you wouldn't think so. But I'm a great believer and less is more. As evidenced by the entire apartment, right?

Less nudity, more coverage. The first prudish gay we've ever had on Bravo. Ever. This is the first gay that's not like, oh, yes, come here, cock, bitch, yes. You know, this is the first one. He's like, oh, my God, nudity, I calmed. I would never.

So Emma, Emma's like, I'm having a panic attack. And she just keeps saying, Keep calm, carry on. Let's go. Keep calm. Carry on. Let's go. Look at me. Entirely out of sorts. I apologize, everyone, for being so loud and crazy. Oh, goodness. I can't. It must be all over my face. I'm just ravaged with emotion right now. I apologize. Sorry, everyone. Biker's like, a spammer keeps calling me, so I'm just picking up the phone and dialing numbers into their face. You should be like, hey, spamer. People are. They're either fountains or drains.

What are you? I'm fucking over it. It's like over and over they keep calling me. And then I say hello and they just hang up. So now I'm just going to tell them up in their face. Why are you even spamming? So Micah goes, Micah's like,

I'm not a prude. I'm definitely not a prude. Florida Micah is delighted. This is on the bucket list. Hold on. Over and out. This is Micah calling Dara. Dara, there's a naked man here.

Hello, Dara. Are you there? Do you remember me? It's Florida Micah. Honey one? Dara. So they're all talking about what it's like to see a weaner.

Like, oh, my gosh. And Margo's like, oh, here in London, they call it a willie. They're very demure. Well, I'll say it. It's a cock. And Missy's like, Cochorico. And Marcus, I believe it's commonly referred to us, an appendage. So then he, like, grabbed some flowers and puts some flowers like on his easel.

And he's like, look, I'm going to paint the flowers. They're in the view. I don't know how to look at the willy. I'm not getting aroused. Please, everyone, don't look at me. I'm not getting flushed. Keep the emotions in. Emotions in.

Have you not seen a penis before, darling? Well, I don't believe I have been acquainted with. You can always close your eyes then. All right, then? Just close your eyes, Mark. Are you still talking? Do give up to you. Of course, I'm uncomfortable.

I think the whole thing is absolutely hideous and entirely unnecessary. Mark was so massively attractive. to Dev. That's what was happening here. And he was like, I can't possibly be attracted to this man, this, this poor man, literally poor man in a lower class. I cannot. He was clearly into Dev, which is why he was so like, I can't look. I mustn't look at Dev, but you know. Oh, can I be expected to paint someone when I don't even know their lineage? Yeah, that's exactly what he was thinking. But wow, he was, he was hot for Dev. So, Kimmy guys around the Dutch paintings. And they're actually.

actually all fairly decent. I'm surprised. Like they all do them really differently. Lottie keeps telling us she's like an actual artist because she went to art school. Okay. So hers is pretty good. But everyone else is doing kind of impressionist type things, but they're all actually good, which is weird.

You never see that on these shows except for Kimmy's. Kimmy does probably the most offensive one. She just draws his dick, but she does it with like greenish brown paint. And then she does it in these kind of sweet. whirls and it looks like Java the hut. It looks like Jabba the hut. And he looks at it and Deve did not look happy. She shows Dev and Deves like, um,

this looks down at his dick like, really? He didn't like it. Martha goes, Kimmy, I must say, you have made him look like he's a good course of penicillin. It's easy and it's green. Missy goes, I hate her, but she is funny.

So Kimmy's like, well, they're all exceptional. But I have to say, the most great of the bunch is Martha's. She says, no, really, mine. Kimi's like, yes, I love how she put him standing towards the side. But that's just where she was standing. He's like, maddy didn't win with his flowers. Martha is the winner.

Martha, there you go. She's like, oh, I finally won something here. Take my ID dev. Take it. Just take it. Lottie's mad. Lottie's like, it would be too obvious to choose mine. Because, you know, oh, choose the one that's been drawn by the girl who went to art school.

And by the way, he's pregnant. You know, the other's going to have a go. Fine. Lottie was mad. Lottie was like, I didn't pay 400,000 pounds just to go to art school and not be complimented at a cheap, nude painting session. Oh, good. So this is officially over now. We can retire. So they go downstairs to have some food and drinks and stuff. And Emma's like, oh, there's so many bowls on the table. There's a little fried bowl of something everywhere we turn. Well, I love bowls. After we had the Debbie Downer party, I just wanted to laugh a little and drink a little and, I don't know, draw a penis. And that's exactly how it's dawn. Well, ladies, I hope everyone's having a nice time. And it's such a good thing the sun is out today. Makes those bananas taste better on my ride.

So Missy gets up and she's just like, I'm going to, she basically is like, can we go have a talk? So they go off to the side and everyone's watching. And Martha's thinking, I'm thinking, oh, I don't want them. I don't want to be here. I hate conflict. I'm playing just to get really drunk and keep my head down. All right, Missy. I've heard through the grapevine that you're a little bit upset. Quite. I'm quite upset. Yes. Yes, I'm quite upset. I'm quite upset. She's like, but why? Really? I don't understand why. Are you joking? Why? No. Are you talking? Why? So just tell me what you're going to say, because I am a little shant.

well, okay, you know, I spoke about my brother, yes, and that is really sensitive subject for me. Well, okay, but wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, let me stop you there. I'm not apathetic towards a situation. I've had horrible situations happen in my life, but what I do have a problem with is there's very sad situations thrown on people that you don't really know that well. She goes, exactly, you mean exactly, because you start, you said it's Because it is a big topic in my life that I apparently never talk about to anyone, except for right now for the first time at the wine tasting. She goes, all right, but do you think that's appropriate at a wine tasting

where we're being served block the wall? Yes, it is not wrong. She goes, but it's not an AA meeting. Oh, it was great. So Margo's like, oh, oh, look at them over there. She's doing a lot of you said, and I never, and the hands are moving. Oh, this is not. apology. Martha goes, it's Kimmy. It's not going to be an apology. So we go back and

he's like, this is me a way of getting to know people. No, that's not a way of getting to know people. It's not. Of course it is. No, that's getting to suck people's energy is what it is. And I got triggered because what you started was started all flu a story. Everybody's got a shot brother. Everybody's bleeding out of their eyes by the end of that thing. And you started it. It's like, no, it didn't start a whole bunch of sad stories. Cut flashback, Lottie being like, my daughter has cancer. Martha, my sister died by suicide. The waiter being like, my car got a flat tire.

They're like, oh, God, it's. It's not wrong to be in touch with your emotions, but why would you use something someone says to be like, oh, now, now, now, now, now, don't start that. You say it's a sob story, he's a drug dealer, whatever you said. Now, now, now, no, no. Well, Margo was there. She knows. fuck Margo. That's what I say.

Fuck Margo. Margo's like, I just don't like, they're watching still, Margo's like, I just don't like her tone. Why is she yelling at Missy? Well, look at how hard Missy will fight to not address her issues, right? She's like, yeah, but it's a lot. She's like, but she's being rude.

So Martha goes, Kimmy's had a very tough life. She's triggered when someone else talks about it because Kimmy's not going to do the therapy. That's not Kimmy. Kimmy's going to party away through life. Yeah, but then that means we I'll have to do whatever Kimmy wants.

No, it doesn't. By you, by you insisting on telling dramatic stories the whole time, you're trying to force everybody. It's like, she doesn't have the emotions that you wanted. So you want her to have those emotions, or you're going to make sure that somebody confronts her about it. And now you're going to go over there and confront her about it because she didn't react the way that you wanted. You're the one trying to force this. It's not her. Kimmy never said anything about it to you.

She never said, don't bring this up. You guys are the ones making this a big deal. Yeah. So Martha's like, yes, she was insensitive, but Kimmy's not going to back down when confronted. It's like getting cross with the dog for shitting on a sidewalk. That's what they do, you know. They just shit on a sidewalk. Or if you have them in your house, they shit on your house.

Or if you have a magpie, they shit on the dog. Then shits on your house. A lot of shitting happens in my house is what I'm trying to say. Yeah. So Margo's like, oh my God, should I step in? And Lottie goes, oh, no, to them. No, don't go over there. Don't do it.

Because, okay. Then you go then. Just kidding. I'll go. I mean, obviously, I'm just going to. try and diffuse it. So she goes over there. I can do this. And she says Kimmy's chosen friends that won't call her on her shit. And so when she's around people who call her out, she can't cope with it at all. Oh, she can cope with you just fine, lady. Have fun. What are we going to do?

We're just going to sit and drink and just like never talk about topics. You know, Kimmy's like, well, it sounds like a great idea. I'm glad we're finally on the same page. So wait a minute. You're asking me to set with a group of girls and a wine tasting and share. No, this is not, not this is normal. It's not normal how people can make fun of that shit. She goes, oh, whoa, wow, wow, well, rewind. There was no making fun. I would, there was no making fun. And then, uh, we got to the car when she says, oh God, people opening up too much. But you did make fun of it. No, I didn't. I just did a fake snore, which I think we all laughed at. You know, it's just like funny. And Missy's like, yes, you are. She goes, oh God, Kim Margo, is that what you

said? You said that I made fun. Marco goes, you said, it's just, what happens when you're involved in drugs and you should get over it. So what? So what? So what? So what did I said that? Okay. That's not mockery?

When I tell you, I was not laughing. I was cheering in my house because, listen, if I said something nasty and I was confronted, I'd be like, listen, I'm so sorry. I never should have said that and just been done with it. But for her to actually stick up for herself and be like, no, you bring this depressing shit to a wine tasting and ruin it. And I'm not going to apologize for it. it's bullshit for you to bring it up.

And that she just keeps going, and she just keeps going so hard for it. I was like, at the very least, you've got to applaud the confidence in this person, because this is crazy. Yeah. So she goes, so what? I said, so what she does is take some,

what Margo does, and she takes something, and she manipulates it, and she stirs it around and her little cold run, and it makes it into something that gives us some attention. I don't need to get attention. And Margot's like, Kimmy Murdoch, you do everything for a,

attention. You are the loudest little person I've ever met. You're like a pint-sized pop-eye for attention. Oh, Margo. Shut up, Margo. You're a fucking bitch is what you are. And by the way, just get your finger out of my face. She goes, oh, yeah, bring it on. Bring it on, Margo. So Martha's like, well, I kind of feel like we should be wearing a bulletproof vest right now. But I also feel like, was that, should I not made that analogy in the presence of Missy? But I also feel like a really inappropriate thing to say in this in the situation. Oh, I guess she

really does say that. Yeah, Margo's like, well, Missy doesn't want to have a drink on a, Missy doesn't want to have to drink her way through her feelings. Oh, well, great. Oh, so I'm glad that I'm sitting with a bunch of people that are so in tune with her feelings. Oh, God, don't look at her, Missy, look at me,

look at me. And Margot's like, wait, what am I looking at exactly? I'm looking at a heartless, mean, cold, bitter woman. She goes, huh, well, Mago, tell me exactly what I said then tell me she's like do you not remember no i'm asking you it's like well why don't you have another drink and i'll tell you 10 more times well i would love some blong to blong please and she goes well why don't you have another drink well she goes i don't drink oh yeah that which is

why you get to be so so so self-righteous now you can't win your argument so you're going to call somebody a drunk because you're that fucking weak i hate when people do that like oh really why don't you have another drink oh get out of here i'm not the one who couldn't handle it Yeah, Margo's like, you know, when you're clear-eyed and sober and American, some people look different and some people look the same. And I've only seen one side of Kimmy, straight vodka with no ice. I'm like, I don't see the problem here so far. Well, amen. 90% of us would order that over the fucking glass of, you know, off-brand Perrier your ass is.

I know. Missy's like, the subject is very close to my heart. And if that was too dark for you and the attention's seeking, it was, well, it was dark. I love that Kimi is like, yes, it was. You're correct. Thank you for acknowledging my feelings on this. It really upset me. Well, it upset me too.

Oh, it upset you? Just, yeah, I did. I wasn't trying to belittle anything about the death of her brother. I thought it was inappropriate at a wine case and discussed such deep, dark, sea issues. There's a place for that. But that wasn't a place for it. So Micah's watching and she's like, I don't think the Kimmy said it to her. her. I really don't. I know. There's, of course, no matters in it. And Lottie goes,

and not everyone's the same, you know, some people might want to share things and some people might not want to. For instance, something I'd like to share said I'm pregnant. Well, you know what? I think you're jealous because I'm speaking about my stuff. She goes, oh, yeah, I'm so jealous. Yeah, and because you don't want to share anything about your side. She goes, okay, you know what, this is not going anywhere. Let's just go. And Akimmy goes, You guys are total bitches. Mama like. So they all get up and Missy's like,

I liked Kimmy. I thought we could actually be friends. She's not trying to hold accountability for what she said, though. She's trying to put it on Margo. And I just think I really do deserve an apology. So they all get together at the table again. And Kimmy's like, well, Mark, I'm an alcoholic, apparently. And I'd like to raise a glass of champagne, please.

Blanc de Blanc. They called me an alcoholic. Can I please get another drink? So, well, there we are, darling, got your service. So I saw Lottie here talking and Lottie's checking on her. And Missy's like, oh, my God, she's so in her ways. I'm like, you know what? You're not even worth it.

You're not worth it. Well, you want to talk about deep things, darling. You can call me. And she's like, exactly. So Martha's like, oh, Kimmy, she's upset. Look, she's so upset. Well, I am not apathetic to what happened to her, you know, like, if she wants a banana, I'll give her a banana.

Well, but like, I mean, what else do you want me to do? Yeah, but what you said was apathetic. Well, Margot, that's your interpretation of it, all right? I think Missy's a pawn in a much bigger chess game. And Margot made it into something now that makes me look like a bald person, but just a really bad-choss movie on her part. Really bald, Josh, Margot. Well, I guess I should say something to Missy.

You know what, I'm going to say something. So she goes outside to where Missy is, and she's like, Missy, let me just say something to you. you, I would never intentionally hurt you from something that happened to your brother. I'm the most sensitive person about these things. Ask the extinct bird that sits behind me. Listen, I apologize if you felt I was being insensitive. You can say what you want. But I think when you say certain things, just, yeah, but you know what, it is who I am. And it's not certain things about people. Okay? It's just who I am. I'm really sensitive. I'm one of the most sensitive people you've ever met.

So, you know, like when you're going, wow, wow, wow, brother, blah, blah, blah, blah, and boring us all to tears, just remember I'm being quite sensitive about it. Well, then that's who you are and that's how I am. And she goes, okay, then we just have to disagree to agree to disagree. And she goes, well, I don't think it's cool. She goes, well, listen, I'm not going to say, well, look, I don't like to think it's cool either to like tell me that I can't say that I don't want to sit at a lunch party that's very dark. And I apologize if that hurts your feelings, but that's who I am. I'm so glad she's sticking to her guns. Missy, she is saying she's sorry for your brother, but she doesn't like that you brought

up a huge, made a huge lunch, a dark thing. You guys sat in a car for three hours to get this fucking lunch, and then you made it a big sob fest. That's right. The whole world is not required. Three hours to make a sob fest. Neither the whole world is not required to rally around and sob when you tell them to. I'm not your fucking dancing. monkey, babe. Sorry. I don't know you. You also like waited until the like they that's such a good

point. I feel like we never really talked about how the three hours like when you sit three hours in traffic and you just want some wine afterwards and then this person comes in and just like I'm going to turn this into a sad sob story. We're all going to sit around and cry. It's like no, I want to have wine and get drunk. We're here to party. Party. Party. So Missy's like it's such a tragedy in my life. Don't you have feelings towards another person and the agree. because you're basically saying you have to stop having fun and give me your feelings right now. You're using it as a weapon at this point and it's gross. You know, you used to the social capital before and now you're using it as a weapon.

Stop, just stop. So Kimmy is just like, whatever. She just like waves her off and goes back to the table. And so Martha's like, are you okay, Missy? And she's like, I'm fine. I just want to go home. So Kimmy tells Mark, she's like, oh, God, I'm being made out to be the fucking villain over there. Great. Good for me.

Are you okay, though, Kimmy? She's, oh, well, fuck them. It's like, no, Kimmy, no. She's like, well, I was not trying to be mean. Lottie goes, but you have upset her, though, and perhaps even the baby that I have, because I'm pregnant. And she's like, well, I don't dislike her.

I just found it heavy. That's all. Yes, but now she feels like you've had a go with her for sharing something when she was vulnerable. Well, you know how she started getting in my face, you know, so whatever. So then Mark goes to Missy and he's like all sensitive. He's kneeling by her car and he's holding her hand and he's like, you know what? The only thing I would say for her is it's not making fun. It's making light of something that I think is very close to her home. And this is something else, you know, and they're mentioned he's, they're kind of mentioning it except nobody's listening. You know, all the people who know Kimmy are basically saying, listen, Kimmy grew up in Haiti. Like she's got some stories. Like her dad was involved. and God knows what. She's got a lot of stories.

Lord only knows we can guess what they would be about. And she's got a lot of trauma and pain that we know about. And when she blows things off, it's because she doesn't want to be dragged into a place where she's sitting there sobbing, talking about her own traumas. Some people like to just move on with their lives and not wallow in the drama.

And some people don't, you know? So he's like, it's not being her, It's not her being insensitive. It's almost, this is her being overly sensitive in a way, you know? So Lottie is like telling Kimmy inside, like, but couldn't you have just said, I didn't mean it that way. I'm sorry. She goes, but I did.

I did say that. I mean, I'm fucking sad it. But she said you didn't even say sorry. Well, I did. I did in the end. I was trying to be nice. And I realized, like, you know, whatever. Like, but like, I'm just like saying that like some people are different.

Oh. And so Mark is still talking to Missy. And he's like, well, maybe you'll never see eye to eye. Exactly. It doesn't really matter, okay? It's like, thank you, my love. Please take your emotions and go somewhere else. We're going to go back to drinking and laughing.

He is good, though. What's interesting about Mark is he tries to do this whole, like, I have no feelings whatsoever. But then he's actually super sensitive to everybody, which is weird. Like, he never once really agreed with Kim. He was like, oh, I know. Isn't it awful? People sharing.

And like he didn't really go in with her. He just listened to her and laughed. But then he can still be sensitive to the other people. That's pretty impressive. I'm liking Mark. Yeah, I like him. And then Martha, meanwhile, they're still talking about how everything went left. And Martha goes, yes, but then South Carolina got involved.

I was like, whoa. I was like, I love that like that not so subtle snobbery about Americans. And she was like, well, I was like, what are you doing here? I'm like, don't fucking come on my throat. Well, you know, she is a punk. but she's a legendary punk and they just laugh. That was the end.

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