Watch What Crappens - #3274 Crappy Hour 3/23/26: RHOM Paused and MomTok Off the Rails

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

This week on Crappy Hour Live, we talk about the beloved Real Housewives of Miami being paused and MomTok news going completely crazy.  We go live every other Monday at 5:30 PT at Patreon.com/wat...chwhatcrappens and youtube.com/watchwhatcrappens. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, hello and welcome to Kropayawa. I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Good. Hi, everybody. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:00:32 We are a week later, which feels crazy. It's been so long. I know. Without talking, Bravo, the headlines. The hell. I know. It's been three weeks because we had a one week delay. Because this time last week, we were at South by South West.
Starting point is 00:00:49 at the IHeart Podcast Awards. Yes, that was so fun. But now, here we are. Back to Crappy Hour. If you want these videos, well, the video is free every time we do it on YouTube or Patreon. Patreon.com slash watch or Crappens.
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Starting point is 00:01:16 So, Ben, what's on your mind today? well first and foremost let's address the elephant in the room which is that you're wearing vertical stripes I'm running horizontal stripes so so who's the hashtag bitch oh we do make a hashtag that's true yeah you're calling me an elephant yeah horizontal look what why don't we talk about we've talked about no I want to start I want to talk about stripes more because you know what that is something because they say vertical stripes make you thinner and horizontal stripes make you fatter but you look thinner and I look look look it doesn't work because look how the horizontal stripes are. They like go out and then they go in. I don't think they make you look thinner. I think they see that's thin. I don't even see you. Who are you?
Starting point is 00:01:57 Is it just the air? You're ahead. It's not like seeing. I'm still working off that Texas. Let me tell you something. Strip gate. Tall Gamer girl says stripe gate. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:02:11 A tiger can't change the stripes. So let's let's talk about Miami. We talked about it already. It broke last week. But over the, since we, since this news broke, there have been reactions from the cast. And they've sort of like it's been, there's been like a range of reactions. Of course, universally the fans are upset, anger, furious. Why?
Starting point is 00:02:34 Why does this show have to leave us when we, when other shows that are not even half as good still stay in the air? I don't know. But we have our reactions from several of the housewives on the. that show in the wake of it. Alexia, let's pull up Alexia's reaction. She said as a proud Latina
Starting point is 00:02:57 being part of a platform like Real House of Miami on Bravo has always meant more to me than just reality television. It meant visibility, representation, having a voice, and killing all narcs. I was like, wow, okay, going after the narcissist again, wow, Alexia. She's hearing that the show is currently on pause is disheartening, and it's
Starting point is 00:03:13 hard not to feel the way to that. Opportunities are like this are rare, and they matter. And well, know Peter, they open doors and challenge perceptions and allow our stories and our culture to be seen and celebrated on a larger stage, especially when you're a star, like I was born to be. I'm still a star. Goodbye. I'm still a star. Yeah, the whole thing was very sad. Did you see the post that Derreet, to read on watch what happens live. There was a clip of Derreet explaining her house going into foreclosure again, by the way, explaining again. It's like the 90th time we've heard this. But anyway, she was on there talking. about that. And Larsa left a comment that said, well, like, the mortgages on Real Housewives of Miami
Starting point is 00:03:53 are paid up. Like, that's good. Well, you weren't canceled because of mortgages, unfortunately. Well, not canceled. I guess Andy said it's not canceled. It's just on pause, everybody. Calm down. It's just on pause. And then Lisa Hoxene jumped in and she was like,
Starting point is 00:04:10 guys, guys, relax, okay? It's just on pause. It's coming back. Come on. Guys, calm down. But then other people are saying, No, this is going to be a long-term pause and Lisa's being optimistic. All I know about Lisa is that she still hasn't given us the photo that we took together in Miami. And I messaged her again. This is the real issue here.
Starting point is 00:04:29 The real issue is that I followed up and she still hasn't written. And I'm starting to believe all the stories that all the house has to complain about her. Like, lady, send us the photo. We will post it. Always take your own photo. Always take your own photo. That's it. We should know this by now.
Starting point is 00:04:45 But yeah, he's saying it's just, it's just a pause. I mean, I don't know. Bravo and Cocktails reported earlier, some goss, that a bunch of them were fired anyway, that they were firing Julia Gertie and, um, uh, Adriana and one other one. Who was the other one? That they were hiring more of them anyway and that this just kind of prolonged that. But so even if it's not canceled and it is just on pause, it's still going to come back with half the cast gone, which is yeah, yeah, Lisa. Right. Which is not what I want anyway. That's like a reboot. I don't want that. I want the castback. You can get rid of, you can get rid of Julia. I'm fine with that. I don't think I've seen anyone being like, oh my God, what are we going to do without Julia? I'm going to miss the goat. I haven't seen that. But yeah, everyone else. Come on. Yeah, I think I don't understand why you get rid of Adriana. She gave arguably the most viral moment of the season. And she's really great as a friend of. So like, like, why are you messing with a friend of's really? I mean, and Lisa, you know, Lisa, it wasn't like the
Starting point is 00:05:50 biggest Lisa season, but like Lisa's Lisa, she's always entertaining. And she, like, watching the other women sort of scold her and treat her like Brat kid's sister is always like really funny. I just, I don't think that changing the cast is what the show needs. I don't think that's why there are low ratings. It's not because of the cast. I think what it needs is a better marketing approach. So Stephanie in her response, she said, well, we aired in the summer when everyone was traveling. Yeah, maybe, maybe
Starting point is 00:06:20 not. I don't know. I don't know if that's really if that holds up these days. I mean, Big Brother airs in the summer and yeah, you know. Other shows air. A lot of shows are popular in the summer. So now. Look, yeah, they aired it after Orange counties. They were given a nice lead in. But I do feel like
Starting point is 00:06:36 the show came back on Bravo. The first, I think two seasons back on Bravo, they launched them like late to during Christmas break. That's when content creators are on break. People are not really paying attention to TV in the same way. So those seasons like launch at a time when people aren't watching. Then people say, oh, I'm going to catch up on that.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And I just, I missed it. And then they never do. And then they just don't catch up in general. I think the, I think the, like the restructuring shouldn't come from the cast. The restructuring should come from the marketing department. That's what I think. I think America just has to like appreciate what's good. And then there's that.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I blame us. And then there's that. I still blame. I already said that I'm not going to go into a whole speech about it. But I blame us. You know, we want to blame everybody else. But it is us. It is the voters.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Okay. It is our fault. It is our fault. It is time we took some personal responsibility. And, you know, someone left a comment, I think, on YouTube earlier. Like, well, it's partly our fault because we say everything's good and everything's not good. And we used to hate more things than we hate now. You know, roughly quoting, not quoting.
Starting point is 00:07:42 but you know whatever you call it um but you know a lot of on bravo is good bravo's had a really good year i think i think that's been a really strong year for quality and um that doesn't explain really anything i think miami was good it's just people don't watch it what are you gonna do you can't force them to do it you can't force them to do it that's it i'm going to redistrict to this whole country until the nielsen families are well within the miami range thank you i think so you know someone um miriam left a comment here saying, I blame Todd, I think that's not nothing. I think when you have a show that's low rated, we're not rating as high as the others. And there are some, as we were on Crystal and Cynthia's podcast, they just put it up today. And Crystal was talking about how, you know, these women have
Starting point is 00:08:29 been on the show while. So it's getting more expensive. And then you have a pending lawsuit. It's just, it's one of the things that can tip the needle, which is unfortunate. But again, And like there have been other times when shows have gone on pause and it's definitely needed a cast shakeup. You know, Atlanta needed a cast shake up. Potomac needed a little one a few years ago. You know, I'm trying to think of Orange County had some moments like several years ago that needed, you know, Roney obviously had a cast shakeup. New Jersey is going through one. Like as sometimes the cast members, they stop being like good cast members and they just are very self-produced.
Starting point is 00:09:08 and they just almost start to act like they're too big for the show. You sort of get the feeling like they're holding stuff back. But Miami did not have that. I really didn't feel like they were doing that. I think on Miami, they were going full force.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I think that was in a way, the fact that they've been underdogs, like they were even more motivated to put together a really good show. So I just, I don't know. I don't think that like having, like firing for people is not going to do.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I don't think that like bringing in a whole bunch of new people that no one knows will necessarily move the needle for the people that weren't watching it anyway. Those of us who watch it will continue to watch it, you know. And I think that they'll probably bring in new people because their track record on casting on Miami has been like nearly 100%. Like they are so good at it. But I don't know if new cast members are going to be, oh, that's the thing that's going to make the people who refuse to watch it suddenly decide, oh, I'm going to watch it now. I think the thing that should make them want to watch it is the fact that all of us are outrage right now are making such a big stink.
Starting point is 00:10:05 and I don't know, like, promote it better. I have no, I have no solutions, Ronnie. Yeah, there are no solutions. You just have to watch it. I mean, what can we say? So that's Miami. It's super sad. I don't want to see it go.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I love that show. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappence commercial. Now let's go on to something that does pretty well in the ratings, even when it's boring. And that is Real Housewads of Beverly Hills. So Bose made a stink on that show. I mean, nothing has happened on that show this whole year. That show is basically Kyle trying to get Doreet in being like an insane bad mother or something.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Not sure really what Kyle's trying to do there, but she's trying to come for Dorete like behind the scenes. And then Doreet's getting a divorce. And then basically the whole season is like piling on this Amanda Girl, who's possibly one of the more annoying people to be cast on one of these shows in a long time. But they really are piling on. on her. So in the Italy episode this past week, we see Bose. They're all standing in a line, you know, looking at the statue of David, which lots of you have reminded us is not the real statue of David. It's a fake. It's a fake out front. Something seemed wrong about it.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I'm impressed. Is that outside like that? Okay. Yes. Which is fine by me. I mean, they have the same butt. You know what I mean? I don't care. Like, I'm, I'm here for the butt. It's the same. I'm glad there's multiple fine ass all around that place. That's great. But anyway, they're standing there, kind of looking at that or taking pictures, and then they're looking at these masks with the long nose. And Natalie, the new boring one, says, like, oh, well, who do you think is the Pinocchio of this group? And Boz is like, Haha, Amanda. And Amanda's standing right next door and hears it and gets so offended that she says something to Bose right there. And there's an argument.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Just kidding. She doesn't say anything. And then goes to Kyle and tries to get her Kyle Army together and lets Kyle stew about it for her and let's Kyle try to get an army. to go against Bose. It's the most ridiculous thing. So then finally, she's confronted, Bose denies saying it. We were wondering, does Bose really not remember saying it? I mean, what the hell? Um, because that seems weird for Bose. Um, or does she just not want to argue about it? What's the deal? So Bose had an apology video on Instagram this week. First of all, just reviewing the video itself. Bose looks amazing. Every Instagram,
Starting point is 00:12:33 That is not someone who just shows up in their PJs and does an Instagram video. She is full glam and looking amazing in every Instagram video. What pressure must that be? Yeah. She, well, she's in marketing. She knows how to market herself, right? She's like, she knows how to present. I sold.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I will buy whatever she's got. I think, okay, what she said was shady. It was a shady moment. I don't think it was above and beyond any shadiness that we, you've seen on these shows when you have jazelle outright calling angel a catfish for instance you know like a lot of these shows there are shady ass things that are said i'm not going to say it wasn't shady of course it was shady and i thought it was shady let me just add on hold on to your amt because i don't want to come back to it but um i think it was shady i think what made it shadier at least to
Starting point is 00:13:24 me is a it's bose so i don't expect i mean it's not like bows never has shade i just didn't she seems to be kind of the nicer one i guess in the group but also also that they're all hating on Amanda at the same time. And I think it made it worse because it's like kind of making a group joke at someone who's already being hated on. I thought that made it kind of shittier. And, you know, but that said, like you said, it wasn't really the worst thing we've heard on Housewives. And I didn't think it was this big of video. Okay. I think it literally did not even need a Twitter apology. Okay. Apologize at the reunion for it. Be like, I'm sorry. I was being shady or I said it. I was being shady. I didn't even realize like, but I hurt your feelings. hurt her feelings. I'm not going to take that away. It's not nice hurt people's feelings. And Amanda's been totally obnoxious all season, but one thing that she hasn't been doing is she had not been hurting other people's feelings. I will give her that. And one thing I like about Amanda is that she is so awful, but she gets under everyone's skin. And I like that too. She agitates them. That's like very funny to me. I think Amanda sucks though generally.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Like in a vacuum, she sucks. In a dustbuster. She sucks. But do, boom. And a dust pan. It sucks. Still sex. sucks, but she's really good as a foil because if without her, they'd be doing nothing this season. So that being said, I just don't see what Bose's shade being any worse than anything we've even seen on this show. I'm sure Erica has said had had little quips before that she said about Sutton. I just am too lazy to go and pull up the evidence. I'm sorry, everyone. I'm sorry. I'm failing in the court of housewives. So whatever, it was a shady moment. The fact that she had to
Starting point is 00:14:57 like go on to the internet and like make an apology for it, maybe she made it worse by doing that, quite frankly because everyone's like everyone's ganging up on Amanda everyone's gang up on Amanda I mean yes this is a show that has featured the Fox Force 5 a history of ganging up but in this case Amanda's fucking obnoxious okay and they've been really nice to refer a while and now they're just like at their limit and I'm sorry I think sometimes a shady thing just comes on out and I think Bose did not need to give that apology I thought it was very nice that she did it and the fact that people are like well, Bose, why haven't you stayed at your job for more than 18 months? Any job for more than 18 months? That's fine. But, like, I don't think that has anything to do with the stupid quip that she made.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah, I mean, her apology was basically like, look, you know, sometimes you just forget what you said, and I forgot, and I copped to it. And I'm very sorry, Amanda, because I did say it, and I'm sorry. But, you know, she gave like a full, like, but, you know, you're on a show, and that's what we do. I mean, this is a TV show. Like, you'll survive this, you know, the TLDR. So people felt like, oh, that's not enough of an apology. And I was like, really? Well, where's the apology from Kyle for making this a huge deal? Or Kyle for trying to make Doreet sound like she needs to be institutionalized
Starting point is 00:16:18 because she likes to shop a lot or whatever else is going on there. So I don't know. It was kind of interesting. But then, of course, you know, the second that I start feeling anything, like any kind of sorry for Amanda, when I'm like, you know, maybe they are all just getting a little too hard. Like, has Amanda really done anything to anybody? I mean, she's annoying about herself, but she hasn't really done anything to anybody.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I mean, the worst thing she's done is this Doreet thing, which is like talking about Doreat's marriage, which she didn't really. They said, what do you think about Doret's marriage? And she was like, I think you shouldn't talk shit about your ex when there's child custody or whatever going on, which I don't think was even that wrong. So, okay, so that's kind of the only thing she's done. But then, God, if Amanda doesn't just keep upping the annoying factor, okay? She comes on, I think it was today.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I saw it on Reddit today, so that's all that counts. That's all that matters. But no, not Carlos. She comes on Reddit, and she's like, guys, I will not be broken by these Reddit comments. And then she's putting the Reddit comments on the screen that are like, Scamanda, you're a scammer, and why don't you talk about your scamming business or whatever? So we're popping up, and she's like, I will not be broken.
Starting point is 00:17:29 by these comments, I will, I will rise above it. I will, I will sell a cup. I will sell a cup. She's like, in a design a cup that seems like scammer on it or something that I'm sure will cost $5,000. And she's talking about how strong she is and she won't be broken. And you cannot make her cry while she's like trying to fake cry on the internet. I mean, you know, part of me is like, oh God, shut up.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And the other part of me is like, this is hilarious. Just I need to follow this account now. because I die every time. I just start cracking up every time. So I don't know. Yeah. I think Amanda's hilarious. I laugh.
Starting point is 00:18:05 She sort of has that angel effect on me as an angel from Potomac, which is like, she's so bad. I crack up. Like, I look forward. And I think you meant like Delorese. She has a, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:15 when I look at, when I look at Amanda, I think that's, that's the soul of Deloresece. She looks like she was the judge once in, in a court case against oneself on starting over. That was an episode I saw. Touched.
Starting point is 00:18:29 angel. Yes. Uh, yeah. No, I, I think Amanda is like comic relief. She's obnoxious. She did not deserve to be the butt of like a mean girl moment. But I think as a mean girl moments go, it's just, I don't know. Like, and we shouldn't judge it. Like if someone's mean, someone's mean. It shouldn't be like, oh, well, whatever. Toughen up because it could be worse. No one wants to hear that. But what I'm saying is like they're so delicate. They're so fucking delicate on this show. And like, like, Like you often say that is the gist of Beverly Hills is that it's the one where they're always like, but that was mean, that wasn't nice. But I have to say as many people in the comments have now brought up like several times,
Starting point is 00:19:09 like when you have Ladies of London airing directly after and, you know, you've got Kimmy just going for the jugular. You have on that show, you have, you know, Missy who's shared her story about her brother who was murdered. And Kimmy being like, wow. Well, that's a terrible thing that happened. happened, but like, I mean, you have to ruin the blonde to blonde tasting with it. I mean, too much, right? I'm just trying to have fun here and you got to bring up your dead brother.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I mean, come on. Who does that? And Amanda's here. And then stands on business, which he's called out and is like, no, shut up. I don't want to listen to your dead brothers. But that was a saw, but you can't, you can't say that came in. Her brother was murder and she goes, so what? And like, and then you have Bose here.
Starting point is 00:19:56 It's like, ooh, who's the Pinocchio? of our group. Amanda, oh my God, issue a public apology should compare it Amanda to Pinocchio, a Pinocchio mask, even worse. Like, oh, God, please, everyone just relax. Take a chill bill. Meanwhile, I'm the one who's actually whipped into a frenzy. Yeah, but it does. I mean, that show, well, like, we'll get whipped into a frenzy over nothing, just like them, because that's how they've got us trained, you know? So who knows? My comment, my thing isn't, it's not even, you know, who's right or wrong, or who's mean or who's not mean
Starting point is 00:20:27 or whether the comment was the worst thing. At the end of the day, there's no crying in baseball. And just be quiet. Like, you can't take it. And I did like what Erica told her when she's like, if you think that this is the worst thing that could happen to a woman in this group,
Starting point is 00:20:42 then you better get your car. You better drive the fuck home. Come gunter. I actually kind of agreed with Erica there. It's like, you know, this is not the place to cry. Yeah. You know, it's a sad and. Eric is just like, you know, Sutton, why don't you give this woman a round of applause for saving your ass this season?
Starting point is 00:21:03 You know, I'm surprised that Sutton is acting like, okay, Amanda, you need to stand up to them. Because Sutton, this is usually you in this position. You should be glad that somebody else is taking it for once. Yeah, exactly. And by the way, it's just sort of a go back to something that you had mentioned, like saying Bose is the nice one and it's surprising to hear her be shady. I think Bose has been shady in her confessionals for both seasons now. but she really just hasn't had too much of an opportunity to be just shady in the group. And I don't think people call Bose out for anything because there's not really a reason to.
Starting point is 00:21:34 No one really has a beef with her. There was a beef with Kyle. But Bose is just getting along with people and they like Bose. And to me, Bose seems like a cool person to hang out with. So like no one has an issue. But I'm sure that other shoe will fall. Like that's like her moment will come. I think the only reason why she didn't get like her sophomore hazing is just because Amanda is there sucking up all the room.
Starting point is 00:21:53 But a little fall in because the audience is going crazy against Bose right now. I mean, part of the audience. And that's when the housewives are like, get her. You know, like there's blood in the water. Let's get her now. So I don't know. Who knows? Beverly Hills, right?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Who knows? Look at us. In a tizzy of the stupidest shit. Can we talk about mom talk? You guys? Oh, yes. I don't know if mom talk is going to survive this. Mom talk has been cray-cray lately with everything going on there.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Taylor, Frankie Paul was the new Bachelorette. They filmed the entire season. Then a video came out. Well, first, there were reports that there was another abuse incident against Dakota, her on again, off again, loser. On the Oscars. And right. And so people are like, oh, my God, what did she do to him this time?
Starting point is 00:22:41 Because as you all remember in season one, the police were called to the house. The whole plot was Taylor was throwing stools at him and, you know, hitting him. Lose stools, if you will. Losing her shit at him. And that was the plot of that. So then this new thing came out. And then video was released of the original thing. And that was bad.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I mean, we'd all heard the stories. We knew what had happened. But to see the video of it was, oh, like, she was really grabbing those stools and destroying them. Their kid was on the ground. You know, there's like an arrow in the video pointing like, her kid is right here. And he's like, our kid is right here. is right here. She throws one stool and he's like, our kid is right here. And then she picks up another one
Starting point is 00:23:25 and, you know, throws it again or start swinging it at him or whatever. Oh, my God. That video was crazy. And so ABC and Disney was like, bye, we are canceling this entire season of the Bachelorette.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah. Well, that's a big move. I feel like the last time this happened was with Megan wants a millionaire because some guy, that like someone who got very far in that show like murdered someone. I remember back like 2009 or something. That's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:23:58 When the network cancels a signature show with a big like network star, that's a big deal. But also like ABC, as everyone has been saying, what were you thinking in the first place? I'm sorry. I've only watched season one and a few episodes of season two.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And I am like a Miami person being like, I just have to catch up and now I'm too far in the hole. And now I'm intimidated. I don't know. I've got to get back in. to it. But like the entire franchise started off with these two trash buckets being a rat like like being arrested or she was being arrested, but they had had some spat or whatever. And I was always like, are we forgetting like that these are two garbage people, you know, that we're following here.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And like the whole like it was like nine months later. And like it's just been this like spin on I'm back and I have I'm pregnant now. And like she just made one bad choice after another after another. And like, yes, Whitney was the villain that season, but I kept on thinking to my mind. And Whitney, by the way, has just broken the record on Broadway. I think she beat Ariana's record for Chicago. And I just kept on thinking to myself, I'm going along with the narrative, but I don't really understand why Taylor Frankie Paul is like the hero.
Starting point is 00:25:05 She's garbage. And I'm not being like, oh, I already knew, but the point is like the evidence was there. Why would, like, they should not have given her the keys to the Bachelorette. So like, that's just a massive fail on, on ABC. And I think they thought, oh, we'll be fine. And we'll sweep that under the covers because this is such a big thing for us. And now it's really bit them in the butt.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Well, and it was, you know, it was one of those like, well, she did this, but she was under stress. And now the whole season is her trying to get better. Or the whole series is her getting better and better in theory. I'm like, you know, I did that, but I'm working on myself and I go to therapy. And then there's all the therapy speak and all that. So I think as an audience, you're like, okay, well, people make mistakes. and this is kind of what reality TV is, right? You watch people do trashy things and then like apologize and get better.
Starting point is 00:25:54 At least that's the Housewives trajectory, you know, and then you watch them get better and you root for them because we're all flawed and blah, blah, blah. But, you know, we see signs, anybody who keeps up with secret lives of Mormon wives, hi, haven't watched the last season yet, but I'm about to start tonight. But I watched the first three. And that's, you know, you see glimpses of that cuckoo coming out. out, you know, like they were at Coachella and some girl talked to him and she freaked out and they weren't even dating. It's like what, what's going on, you know? So I don't know, but the fact is everybody who's watched that show knows exactly what happened and the fact that everyone is acting shocked now. I mean, even the audience is acting shocked. You knew that she threw the stool and you
Starting point is 00:26:38 knew that the stool hit the kid. We all heard that in the first season. And now people are like, oh my God, Taylor. And they're just, it's like post after post after post of what a bitch. And what a horrible mother and then, nah, nah, nah, nah. You guys were rooting for her for four years. What's the difference? Now, I can speak as an audience member. The difference answering my own question is seeing the videotape. It is a lot different to see that.
Starting point is 00:27:00 You know, it is. Yeah. And this is Disney. This is Disney. Like, Disney does not mess around when it comes to that stuff. Like, there probably could have been a play where they delayed it. And then they have like, she goes to rehab. And then they interview her and they do a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:27:17 and what she's learned. They probably could have found a way to do it. But I think when it comes to Disney, they're like, uh, yeah. And the timing was so close. And was there any talk about how that even got leaked? Did Dakota leak it to sabotage her season? Do you, is that what happens?
Starting point is 00:27:32 That's what people are thinking. Like, here her season's about to come out and then suddenly this video comes out, you know. And that's shitty of him, too. And while he's filing for restraining orders, apparently he's calling the cops and CPS, all that, you know, her reps are saying, oh, he's just being vending. addictive and he's calling CPS all the time to the point where it's just getting to be like a cry wolf situation. Don't take anything he's saying seriously. And, you know, and of course this leaks right now, right when she's about to be happy. And let me just tell you, Taylor aside, that whole show is so fucking dark. And you haven't watched as many seasons as I have. And this people were saying, why don't you guys cover it? And I was like, well, you know, it's hard because they're all released at once. And And by the time we get down in episode 10, it's over, right? Everybody is, no one's thinking about it anymore.
Starting point is 00:28:23 But let me tell you, that show is so dark. I'm so glad we don't cover it. It's just too much gross shit to talk about. And having to take sides on any of it, not take sides because some of it are people are obviously victims, but having to discuss it and trying to make stuff like that funny, it's just not funny. And it doesn't have to be. Like every show is not made for us.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But, you know, it's just so dark. And the relationships are so gross on that. So like you have tiny-faced little husband of Jesse, whatever, that tiny-faced little man. He's like a head, but then a tiny face in the middle of the head, whatever that guy's name is. He's awful. He's terrible. They're going to be a hero. Yes, he filed against her because she said she was going to file against him. And then he said, you better not do any podcasts or I'm going to sue you.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And then she went on Nick Vile. I think it was Nick Files. She went on something. And then so he did file a restraining order against her because now that's just what the guys on that show. we're going to do. And so that one's gross. And then Michaela and her husband separated. And then he was with her when she was like 16. Like he got her pregnant when she was 16. He was in his 20s, like 21 or 22 or something. And I mean, it's just I have to say like, I low key think the gossip coming out of these shows are like, it's like to me it's not fun gossip. And that's the thing. I think one of the reasons why I didn't like immediately binge all of season two as well is because you could already. in early season two feel how fame was changing them all. And like season one was great. They were kind of like still innocent.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And this is the risk with reality TV. And it's just you see them all crumbling. And it happens. It happens with these shows. But it's like, I don't know. It's just kind of dark. Commenters are saying Jesse did call her daddy. It comes out Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Because of course got that wrong. And they're also basic too. That's the thing. It's like having to be concerned. about gossip about such basic people.
Starting point is 00:30:19 And I guess I've already just, I guess I've already dedicated that to the valley and the world of Vanderpump rules. So it's just hard to take on something else, you know? But I am, I actually still do aspire to watch it. I watch season one. I love season. I loved it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:30:34 The truth is to circle back to what you said is that Bravo has a lot of stuff on. If, God, if this show had come out like, over last summer when there was like nothing on, it would have been a godsend for us. But like, Bravo has a lot of shit on. And a lot of it's really good. And like we honestly just don't have the bandwidth. Like it just comes down to simple bandwidth to cover that show. And then you add in all the reasons that you brought up.
Starting point is 00:31:00 It's just too hard. And like, are, am I going to like, despite everything, despite how much we shit on Beverly Hills, we don't cover Beverly Hills and we cover secret lives of Mormon wives instead, people will have a fit. Anytime we like don't cover any show, people have a fit. And understandably, because these shows are all really good. Like what you have to know, you just have to make your choices. Yeah. But wow, what a show.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And then, you know, now, of course, I've got to go watch season four, which is on right now. And I have to see how Whitney has made this turned into a hero also. I mean, I saw it last season. That started to happen. But still a hero. So got to watch. Okay, go ahead. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:39 By the way, in the comments, Catherine says that Rhode Island starts next week. And we heard that Rhode Island is amazing. But then again, you know, people will hype shit. But like, that's what we heard. We know it's amazing. We saw the previews. There's no way that show is not going to be amazing unless they found miraculously. I mean, it doesn't even.
Starting point is 00:31:59 It's not even what they showed. The people on it look hysterical. Also, Atlanta is coming back very soon. By the way, yes, I agree. Atlanta's coming back very soon. Cynthia kept telling us like, oh, this season's like crazy. but the reason why I'm bringing up Atlanta right now is that there was this,
Starting point is 00:32:20 the internet just did weird internet things this weekend. You know, sometimes the internet just, you never know what that like, what that, let that like, that bingo cage is going to pull out. And this time,
Starting point is 00:32:33 Marlowe Hampton went to like a luncheon with Tyler Perry and someone used AI to make it seem like they were making out. And then the internet was like, are Tyler Perry and Marlowe Hampton? in a thing. And then people are like, it's a lavender marriage. And then you're like, really? But lavender.
Starting point is 00:32:48 But like, why would he choose Marlowe Hampton of all people? And it's like, well, it does make sense. Like, Marlowe would go for Tyler Perry. And then it became a whole thing. And then I didn't even realize it was Marlowe because she looked totally different. And then like there was like there were several hours there where I think the internet was thinking like, is this a good thing or is it a bad thing that Marlowe and Tyler Perry are together?
Starting point is 00:33:09 And then finally it was revealed. It was all fake. But that was fake? Yeah, yeah. Look. Girl, I believe that. Like, I believe those babies doing housewives. Look, and on our document.
Starting point is 00:33:22 You seen that one? I believed it. I was like, they got some really talented babies to reenact these housewives scenes. I was like, these are great. Someone's like, you idiot. Those are AI. I was like, that's AI. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:33:32 AI's gotten so good. I was like, these babies are such good actors. Literally, is this. Tyler Perry is, I have to imagine, constantly going to events with various women at different times. Who decided, you know what, Marlowe Hampton is the one I'm going to manipulate with AI to make it seem like, it makes sense that he would do that. First of all, he's in so much trouble with sexual harassment claims brought against him
Starting point is 00:33:57 by men, you know, he's a lot of trouble with that stuff. He really is. And, you know, every gay loves a housewife. And Marlowe loves a billionaire that she doesn't really have to fuck. Like, we've known that about Marlowe for a year. I mean, that's Marlowe's storyline. So to me, it all made sense. So I was like, I'm into this story.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah. I was really excited. I also was like, if this is Tyler Perry's way of shooting down gay rumors, he has sorely sorely misplayed this one. Like, nothing could make you seem gayer than to make out with a real housewife of Atlanta. It's like, wow. Tyler Perry is finally with someone hot. Liza Minnelli.
Starting point is 00:34:37 It's like, oh, no. He's the new David guest. You know what? Let Tyler Perry be allegedly in the closet because he keeps putting in the hottest men in his projects. And like if that's the, that is the way he has to get his kicks, then we all benefit, don't we? So, so good for him. Allegedly. I just like this comment from Airfan on Instagram says, also, Rhode Island has some of the most strangely corrupt politics in all history.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Last winter, I drove under a salt degraded overpass held up by wooden planks. I was like, wow, Rhode Island is still mafia. Yeah, it is. One of the women that I went to Norway with, remember, I went on my, this, I went, for those who don't know, back in May, I went on a culinary tour in Norway. And guess what? I'm going to go back again because I had so much fun. But I went on a culinary tour. So it was just like me and like, you know, people in their 60s and their 70s and 80s, actually.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It's just, you know, I was the young enough group. Yeah, it's our people. And one of them was. a lady who I adored who was from Rhode Island. She's very, very, like, a very, like, she's just not someone who's going to watch our shows. And then she was like, oh, by the way, they were filming a real house house house of Rhode Island scene in the restaurant I was in the other night. And I thought you should know. And I was like, God bless it.
Starting point is 00:36:00 God bless. God bless the exposure you just got, Kristen. You are living the life. But I guess the story had no point. I just thought it was funny that this, like, older academic lady was subjected to, like, exposure to Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Yeah. Commercials.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Here comes one right now. Another show that is still on pause is Jersey. They still can't figure out Jersey. And Rhode Island reminds me of Jersey because of the Dolores connection and all of that. One of these stories in here today is Margaret Joseph's not budging on filming Real Housewives of New Jersey with people who wish her family harm. So she's still refusing to film with Teresa, I guess. You know, I don't blame her.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I mean, if you never know, what that crazy louis's going to do that is one angry eggplant but i think this is a bad move for mark or for marg well they're not going to choose marg over teresa teresa's been on there forever i think she's already i think margaret i think she's going to be out because i forgot to put this link in you saw that they came up with this cast for kind of like real housewives ultimate girls trip but like from amazon did you see this mhm margaret's in it okay let me find it margaret josephs i was like oh the moment i saw this i was like oh she's not of doing New Jersey because, okay, here it is. I'm saying, I'm going to add it to the document.
Starting point is 00:37:19 You see where my cursor is? We're very professional. Sure. Yeah, I see your cursor. And I'll start, I'll start reading it. Yeah, okay. What color is the cursor? Yours is like magenta. I'd love it. Love that for me. Yeah. Okay. So according to reality T, Kenya Moore and Margaret Joseph's confirmed for new Amazon reality show, full cast revealed. Kenya Moore, Margaret Josephs, from the Real House franchise have been confirmed for a new Amazon show.
Starting point is 00:37:47 The two Bravo lums will be joined with other reality television personalities for a new travel special film The Dominican Republic. So Kim Zolsiak, Caitlin Bristow, Jen Tran, will be on it. But also, Brittany Cartwright,
Starting point is 00:38:02 Tamar Braxton, Christine Quinn, from, you know, selling sunset, Hilaria, Baldwin, Julie Chrissly, Savannah, Chrisley. What? So it's like a mission. So I don't know. And the picture, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But I have to say, if this is happening, I can't imagine Bravo will be happy with it. And I think if it's true, then I think Margaret has now said, I've got to make my money now. So. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's sad. We'll see. I would love Margaret to come back. I think Margaret is a great housewife. I know there are people who feel that she's like very, very nice.
Starting point is 00:38:43 nasty and vindictive to which I say, who isn't on these shows, to be honest? But I really do think that she's so smart and she's so quick and she's very funny. And I just love that in a real housewife. So I say bring back Margaret. Yeah, bring back Margaret. I love Margaret too. Okay. So in other fake internet news, the internet really, you really can't trust anything you
Starting point is 00:39:07 read because I was literally upset over this. I was, no, legitimately, I guess I should say, not literally. I was legit upset about this. When I read rumors that Amanda Batula was hooking up with West, gross. Gross, gross. I will not respect anyone who hooks up with West. That's it. I just won't do it, okay?
Starting point is 00:39:26 I have been able to watch this show, and you all have been able to watch this show, and if you still hook up with West, I won't respect you. That's it. We both have the same evidence. So there were rumors going around that amid her separation from Kyle Cook. Amanda's been hooking up with West. Super pissed. Then I read that it's not true at all in Us magazine.
Starting point is 00:39:50 She's going out with friends, a source tells us. Doesn't mean they're together. According to the insider, Cook hasn't been seriously dating either since they parted ways, but he tends to be a big flirt and enjoys meeting new people while touring. And we saw that in action. He, in fact, does. Those guys on Bravo are swarmed. We've seen it every time we're with a guy on Bravo.
Starting point is 00:40:13 They are so warm. When I tell you, swarmed by hot women in their 20s, really all women, but especially women in their early, young 20s in midrifts and tiny little skirts. I'm like, where did you even come from?
Starting point is 00:40:30 You can be in a restaurant where everybody is 60, okay? Everybody is 60 and homely. And you walk in with one of those guys and suddenly, like, is like 25 and hot as hell. And showing, you know, every, like, they don't own jackets, you know, in the middle of winter.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Like, where did you even come from? Yeah, it's wild. It's wild. To that effect, by the way, are people going to go see Jesse Solomon's musical tour? I'm curious. I would love to hear what the audience is saying. Like, are they going to that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I'm not. Please. I'm not. I'm not. But I'm curious if other people are. people will. Because, you know, people always act like, oh, Jesse's so gross now. But they did, they said the same thing about Sandoval. Then everyone went and saw Sandoval's like, you know, wandering circus. So I was curious. Will people be seeing it? Well, yeah, looks like,
Starting point is 00:41:26 looks like there's not even any sort of like kits. I will say this, for San Deval's credit, when he went touring around, he was so over the top and ridiculous that you kind of felt like, I got to see this disaster. But with Jesse, he's just going around doing lounge music. And I'm like, I don't think there's any upside for anyone going to it. Yeah, agreed. I don't need that in my life. Now, I would go see the guy who imitates Jesse. I think he's really funny.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I only saw one Instagram, but I thought it was perfect. I would go see him do something, but not the actual Jesse. No. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Oh, I just, speaking of Atlanta, which we're not anymore, but we were speaking about it earlier. I saw Kay Michelle on Sherry Shepard. She was with a couple of the other girls dissing Drew, and it was pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I have high host for her on Atlanta. Sherry was asking her, so what is the, you know, what's the deal I heard you in Drew are fighting? And she's like, well, I just want to say it's not what Drew would like you to think it's about, which is music, because I would never, you know, argue with a beginner in the music industry. And, you know, I'm real. I have gone on tours, I've got gold albums, and I'm not going to be fighting with someone who can't sing, basically. It just kept going on and on. And I loved it. Drew Sedoro,
Starting point is 00:42:43 Drew Sadoro is oddly like not very featured in the Atlanta trailer. Something that was trending on on Twitter in general today was how the Atlanta trailer sort of came and went without causing much of a stir. But I think that's because there's just bigger stirs happening right now. But Drew was barely even in it to the point where I thought, is Drew on this season? Is she demoted? So it'll be interested to see what. what's going to be happening. People want to talk about Tom Tom, which is another thing. Oh, yeah. An eagle-eyed person on the internet noted
Starting point is 00:43:14 that Tom Tom and its assets are up for sale. So it's like, I guess like, I guess it's the bar, maybe some in the licenses, maybe alcohol booze license, whatever. They said the intellectual property is the cost to buy the Tom Tom intellectual property. I can't believe they're legally even allowed to call that when it involves the two tombs i'm about to say are you a i think it's just called property at that point i think it's called embarrassing like we're selling the embarrassing property we're selling the the echoey cavern between their ears property um i i think this is very sad i actually think tom tom was the best of the vanderpump spots in l.a i think that
Starting point is 00:44:04 I think, you know, what I've heard and you know maybe better because you've worked in the industry, what I've heard is that when you have like one restaurant that's not doing well, it starts to drag the entire place, everything down. And I'm wondering, I'm wondering, like, if, I wonder if Lisa's businesses are really not doing well over in West Hollywood. It's, I don't know how much is doing well over there because we were just over there a couple weeks ago. And it was ungranted, you know, we were there on a weeknight. it's dead over there. It is dead.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And I was there on a weekend. I think like the following weekend I was there again with some friends. And it was some of the bars were busy, but those weren't. Those were those are dead. And they're just kind of tourist traps of something that's just not in anymore, you know? Like who cares about Tom or Tom right now? No one wants to go to their bars. They're probably consolidating to put all the resources into Surrow back up from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:45:01 The Vegas things are going strong, focusing on Vanderpom Village. kind of stuff. But yeah, I mean, Sur can continue to go on. There's a fresh crop of kids there that are working there that, you know, we'll draw people in. But Tom and Tom, Sandoval, what is Sandoval doing these days?
Starting point is 00:45:17 He's now just doing the post-fame reality tour. I think he was doing villains, wasn't he? House of Villains. But now he's just on that tour where he's just going from show to show. He had like a little like moment on the traders, which was really good for him. got him out of the doghouse with a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:45:36 But, but, like, he's essentially peaked. And, like, TomTom, I think, just does not have the excitement. And Schwartz is still current. He's on the Valley and he has his podcast, but we all know, Schwartz is not going to be the appeal there. Yeah, you know, LVP is doing so well in Vegas and everywhere else that she is. I mean, she has her new hotel opening. I just saw the pictures of the new hotel.
Starting point is 00:45:58 And it's very Lisa. It's like, ooh, enjoy your pink room, your soft pink room. With Nicolaine chandeliers inside of cages, inside of chandeliers, inside of cages, inside of chandeliers, inside of cages. So it's very much that, but she's got multiple restaurants there. I mean, she's doing fine. She's probably like just pull out. And these restaurants, she's not putting the same investment. I mean, I think Tom Tom, that was her restaurant, right?
Starting point is 00:46:25 I mean, I don't, I'm not saying she didn't have any partners. But for the most part, she was putting money into that. And I think these, she's just like getting licensing money from, you know? Yeah, which is better. I kind of wish Van, we really enjoyed the new Vanderpump Rule season one. It didn't do very well, but we enjoyed it. But I do wish that they had kind of pivoted and just shown like, the new era, Lisa Vanderpump, Las Vegas. And watch all of those messy because, you know, those people are messier than the WeHo people.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Yeah. But apparently the show did extremely well on Peacock. And I think that's what apparently Bravo cares a lot about is doing well on Peacock. So I guess I guess it did well on peacock But that being said There's no way to know That's the thing about peacock If there's no way to know
Starting point is 00:47:11 And when we popped in there And they were doing like a viewing party On a Tuesday night during the season Like you said it was like It definitely was not It was the last It was the next Tuesday Yeah
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