Watch What Crappens - #3277: Summer House S10E8 Part One: Old Man (Cry Me a) River

Episode Date: March 25, 2026

This is part one of a two-part recap!Summer House has a party for Kyle’s birthday, where he throws a childish hissy fit because no one shows up to his DJ set in the living room. There’s a senior citizen party, a dangly rubber rack on Ciara, and some mess when Dara finds out what Bailey said about her.  To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Yeah. Hey, welcome to watch what crap happens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben. Hello, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? My little darling munchkin. Welcome everybody to the show. It is Summer House Day Today Today. Kyle, Kyle, old man Kyle, making an ass out of himself. So welcome to that. If you want this on video or if you want our bonus episodes or if you want to talk to each other on Discord and that fabulous community or you want ad-free listening or you want a free newsletter every week go over to patreon.com slash watch what's crapans that's where you find all that good stuff also i did a couple of guest appearances this week i was on the gabbing with gib podcast that man's adorable that was my first time over there ben's already been on it but i had never been he's a lovely man um that was good we had a talk about the state of the union on bravo and then i talked to kate kasey about some personal stuff and

some Bravo stuff. You know, I love talking to Kate. She's a good friend and we've known each other for years. So a lot of it's just catching up. Like, we don't even know when we press record. It's like, well, here's what I think about Canasta and Real Housewives. So that's the Kate Casey podcast reality life with Kate Casey. Those are both out this week. So go. Give them a listen. Okay. Whoa. Okay. Sounds like a great time. Sounds like a great thing to do. So today is the big Summerhouse episode that Andy hyped up as the worst. Kyle Cook episode of all time. And what's so funny is that when I watched it,

I was like, oh, Kyle's being terrible. And then in my mind, I thought, is this the worst? Haven't we seen worse? Is it the worst? And then I thought, that's really bad. That's really bad that you watch this and think like, no, but I'm pretty sure there was an episode. It's like, oh, you realize like there,

between this and Winterhouse, there were so many bad episodes for Kyle. So many. And you know, you're right. Because Andy was like, well, the worst of all time. Kyle wears a, you know, I don't know, bomb vest. Like it was like really bad.

And it is just more of Kyle. It was just that, wow. I mean, you call your wife a fucking bitch and then don't stop and then just keep. I mean, it's Kyle. It's a Kyle episode, guys. But yeah, I do think it is worse because he just wouldn't let up. And then you see kind of Amanda just crying and him still not letting up or taking any responsibility. And it's, girl, just leave that man.

Leave that man. Leave him. There's another post on Reddit today of like Kyle hanging out with. you know, 22 year old hot girls in the middle of the night, shit face. So shit face, he can't even talk.

Like the man is a mess. It's time to step away, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's,

I was really, I was really happy that Sierra was like, basically saying they need to separate. It's time. I'm glad that they are now at a place where they're verbalizing it. I'm glad that it's actually what happens in real life, too, because it's just not,

it's just not healthy. Kyle should never be talking to his wife that. way. I think they're both like, I'm not trying to be like both sides, both sides. I think they are both in a toxic loop. I think it's very obvious. I think she does give jabs. I think that he is inattentive. I think then therefore she's inattentive in response because she's like, what the fuck? And it is pretty rich when you see him complaining about how Amanda doesn't pay attention to him when he's then out on the road as a DJ. So they're just contributing to this like awful situation. It's very chicken and egg. But I think that like Kyle is, I think,

Kyle has been like pretty like I'm trying to think of the right word is the word terrible it's just fucking horrible it's been fucking horrible yeah fucking monster yeah leave him I mean like what's the what's the what's the word that truly captures it I think just I think that he is being very very needy all of a sudden um while simultaneously not seeming to give that same energy back for Amanda the on the show. So. Yeah, that's just a bad couple. But Linda hear her crying and saying like, well, you know, I just don't know that I can do any better. And that's just so heartbreaking to hear that. And we've all felt that. I mean,

I've felt that. God knows, you know. And that's not a good thing to feel. But no, she'll have to kind of get yourself unstuck from that because nobody can do that for you, you know? Even if you can't do better, you can't do worse. You know what I mean? Yeah, there you. That's kind of how I turned it around in my own head. Like, maybe I can't do better, but I certainly can't do worse. See, a loser. Yeah. And Amanda just, Amanda needs some time, I think, to be single because I just don't think she really had that. I think 24 is really early. I mean, obviously, she got to be single for a few years, but like 24 is early. You know, she went through her entire 20s with Kyle. And in your 20s, you still believe in things like being able to fix people. And so she needs to, like, go back into the

dating world, knowing that she can't fix people and knowing that, you know, whoever she's with, she's got to meet them where they're at and they have to meet her where she's at. And that's where you're hopefully going to find your connection and not hoping that you will come together because there's a lot of good things on paper and then aspire to get to that place where you have that connection. So, yeah, I mean, I believe that she loves him and I believe that he loves her. But like, it requires more than just that. And there's just a, as you've said, a million times, as I've said, compatibility is the main issue. They're just not a compatible couple. Yeah. So we open up at

Kasaki, the restaurant, and that's where they were at last week. But now, we're not going to have a discussion there. We already had it last week. So now we're going to go party. Let's go. Kasaki Fakeout. Kassaki fake out. So they go dance and twerk at a bar.

People are still twerking, huh? Someone's loud. Yeah. The big dance move that we see on this episode is falling over. onto the floor. We see like KJ falls onto the floor. And then later then they go back home and dance some more and then they all keep falling on the floor. And it's like, I guess that's, is that the thing? Is that what the kids are doing? Just throwing themselves onto the floor. You twerk and then you fall down because your butt bone hurts. You're like, ow, I twerk.

Old people twirking. So, um, Lindsay comes home and goes to bed. But then the rest of the cast comes back. And of course, Kyle runs straight to the DJ booth in the living room because he wants to be the center of attention and DJ and nobody cares. Okay. I do not want to hear you DJing. I don't care. Press, go, go put your, your fucking AirPods in. Everyone is not your prisoner to sit there and listen to your shitty DJ set all night.

Okay. It's so annoying. It's like someone who is, it's like me if I had you over and was like, hey, I'm going to sing the piano all night. Nobody wants that. Do that shit on your own. No, you wouldn't. It's annoying as hell.

And people like that need to stop it. They need to be stopped. Okay. Yeah, this is very much like Birthday Boy has his toys. And so they're dancing. And by the way, they go and they dance. They have fun. They're fooling around and stuff. But like, it's also the end of the night.

People, everyone's drunk. They want to do their own thing. They want to loaf about. It's the summer. They want to go to the pool. And so, you know, people are dancing, having fun. But eventually it's, okay, so let's, I'm looking at the time stamps here when they get home. So they get home at around 12, 38 a.m. but by 102 a.m.

Kyle is now alone. Everyone went outside. So they dance for like 20 minutes. I think that's like way more than you can expect. Considering that they were already out, they already danced, they already got drunk.

People are now in their day new month. Whoa, they're in their day new month. Okay. They just want to go to the pool. They got some pool noodle. They're going to stick some laps. Okay.

I'm sorry. But like, you know, bro, like you're not going to, people don't want to sit here and listen to your remixes until two in the morning in this like this mildly lit living room area it's like not a cardboard cutouts everywhere that are freaking me out like that joke's over too get rid of them so this is where it all begins because he is alone in the DJ booth and it's sad there's like those party city streamers

everywhere and he's just like all bummed that nobody's listening to him DJ and everybody else is at the pool okay stop holding everybody hostage okay and go out to the pool and hang out with everybody. It's one of those things like, you're not doing what I want you to do, so everybody's ignoring me. No, you're ignoring everybody else by being a sad sack and staying inside at your stupid pioneer machine, you dumbass. So they're having fun outside, and Amanda's like, what am I just jumped in the pool? And Ben's like, do it, do it. So they're like having, like, let's push each other in. So they're doing that stuff. And meanwhile, Kyle's still in the DJ room alone. And he just turn some music off and he's all upset.

He's like, well, there's nobody wants to hear it. And I had some TV quite out of play, but whatever. And it's just all alone in this world. Yeah, I mean, look, have I ever had a drunk pity party for myself? Hell yes. Have I had a sober one? Yes. So I like get it.

I've definitely been, like, sometimes things hit you in a way. You're like, it's my birthday and no one's like, people should want to be like inviting me out to the pool. Like, I get that. But also just like go out to the pool and be with everyone. you know like you like and also if people by the way by the way take the note which is maybe the music you're playing is not good enough and everyone off the room okay take the note and see how you can improve for next time if you're on a group of people and you're in a party house and everybody

else is parting in a different room but you're parting in it the room all by yourself to blame everybody else is crazy that's legitimately crazy okay and if you feel like that not you you personally, but anybody in the audience is in a situation like that. You're the wrong one for being in that room. Go into the other room. If they ignore you in the other room, then you can cry to me. But you can't cry when you're the one in the different room. So he's crying, he's being a baby. And he's like, he's going to curl up in a ball. He's going to curl up in a ball and die. Amanda laughing. She's having a blast with Jesse and West and Ben. I'm just like literally all by myself because they ditched me. And like, I don't know how I'll still explain it. It's like, I feel

isolated and alone by my wife. Well, she probably feels isolated and alone because you can't get away from your fucking pioneer machine. Drop the machine, bro. It's one in the morning. Nobody wants to hear it. Yeah, and again, you're the one who's going out on the road and DJing and then staying out with the fans

until late at night while Amanda's at home, and then you're going to complain that you feel left alone. They brought you home from the club. Last time I checked, they made sure you got back to the house. And then you make it even worse. They're outside having fun. So now you don't get attention inside.

And so now you have to take a Bluetooth speaker outside to blast your music at everybody. You are not. I don't, it makes me crazy when people play other people's music and act like they made this music. It's, it makes you nuts. Like everybody want to hear my music. It's not your music. Okay. It's Robin.

Now, stop it. Stop taking credit for Robin. You did not make this. Yeah. Yeah. Like, just cut your losses. People are just not in the mood to dance. Don't take it personally.

and just join them and have fun, you know? So then, so he's dancing by himself. And Amanda's like, guys, we should go to bed because we have a big day tomorrow. And Sierra's like, yeah, that's fine. And so Kyle's like, oh, but hey, Amanda, she's like, what? Way is aboard me?

Kyle, you're not doing a gig. You are not like performing at the pool with DJ. It's a Bluetooth speaker. It's a Bluetooth speaker. Stop it. She's like, why? But my name's important. And he goes, no, you're not.

Wait, did Kyle just say Amanda, least supportive wife in the world? And he's like, I'm fucking believable. Fuck you, Amanda. Fuck you. So he says, fuck you. And everyone's like, oh, my God. Because it's like, you should, well, you should really shouldn't say it to anyone, but definitely not your wife. It's time for a commercial.

It's time for a crap and's commercial. So, Kyle, he takes his, his Bluetooth speaker and goes inside, like, you know, a great. grandma with a ball on her porch. She's like, I keep this now. It's like chariotery. So I was like, Kyle, Kyle. And he's like goes inside. Again, like acting, I feel like he didn't get support when he's playing, pressing play on like CDs in the living room. This is not a gig. This is not like a support moment. This is you're providing music for the after party. The after party died down. And now we're in the next phase of the night. That's just how it goes when people are drunk. And like to act like she, Like, he was graduating from Yale or something, and she refused to come and see him walk the stage is just absolutely ridiculous.

Oh, I'm okay, everybody. We're just going to go to bed. We're just going to act like nothing happened. And we're going to all celebrate Kyle's birthday tomorrow, okay? And Cyril's like, yeah, you can't just say fuck you to your wife. And Wes is like, yeah, I'm going to talk to him. And Amanda's like, no, please don't. And she's like, you know, I don't want this to be a thing. You know, I just, and his birthday party tomorrow, we'll just have fun and enjoy ourselves. Like, it is. what it is. We don't have to talk about it. She's like, what's the point? Literally, what's the point of talking about this? It's only going to make things worse. And he's not going to take accountability. He's not going to apologize for what he did. I know that it's wrong. And the way he speaks to me, I know what's wrong. I'm fully aware. I'm not okay with it. I just know that having a conversation about it isn't going to go anywhere, which is like sad that she's just like resigned

to be like, I would rather just ignore it and just move forward than have to deal with another like empty discussion that will not move the needle on our relationship. Well, you're talking to a drunk. You're talking to a person who's shit-faced and throwing a his seat face. It's like we see it all the time with parents in a restaurant. When their kid is having a fit and they're just sitting there not doing anything. And in our minds, it's like, how can you not do anything? Your kid is sitting there throwing a fit, throwing food, calling you a bitch probably, whatever that two-year-old is up to. And you just see that look in their eyes and it's the same look Amanda has. It's like they're two. What can I possibly do? Like

they're two. They're wasted. They're calling me a bitch. That's just what they do at this age. Yeah. I'll just, I mean, Amanda has that look at her eyes. Like, he's two. Like, what do you guys, do you really think I'm going to have a conversation with that? I've been dealing with this his whole life. Maybe he'll get better when he starts preschool. Yeah, seriously. So, um, Ben goes up to Kyle and he's like, Hey, Kyle, you walked past and said, fuck you out of nowhere. He goes, well, that's how I felt. I mean, I don't know if you pick up on it. Like, how much did you see Amanda talking to me today?

Like, she said five words to me all night long. And he's like, but what did you say to her? Well, fuck you. And you hear that to me trying to make an effort. I said, fuck you. As much she's talking to her. Well, but she was hanging out with all of us all night. Not me, though.

Not me, though. Yeah, but where were you? Where were you? Well, she was in my arms, and I was looking into her eyes and enjoying the way the moonlight just reflected off of her lips. Where were you during that call? And Kyle can't say, how is it the DJ stand, but nobody wanted to listen to me, because that's what he really means. Because I think that's what this whole thing is about. So instead, he's like, all he does get shut down.

I just get shut down. No, you literally do not get shut down. So, West goes into Amanda's room. And she's like going through it. And she's trying to sort of keep it together. But he asks if she's okay. And he's like, God, objectively, like nothing happened for that reaction. It's just so bizarre to me.

And she's like, yeah, thanks. And then she just starts to cry. And he's like, I mean, that's like the first time I've ever seen something where like 100% unprovoked. He was just like so rude. Like, and the other times he's been like rude, but like, I guess semi-provoked or like just minorly provoked. So I didn't say anything.

But this time, 100%. That's all I should say something. Well, that's like a calm version of Kyle. Like, that's tame, you know? And he's like, geez. She goes, I know I'm not perfect. Like, but I've literally been dealing with this for like 10 years. I mean, isn't that crazy?

And, you know, there's part of me that thinks, like, is this the best I'm ever going to do? And I mean, I love, he does love me so much. And it's, I don't know. I know it's constantly making excuses for Kyle. And she's crying. And by the way, we don't really see any of this, right? Isn't this all kind of in a bedroom? Yeah, like there's a lot of like sort of,

sort of security cam footage here or just like stationary cameras. Yeah, the foyer doing a lot of heavy lifting this episode. Big times. Big, big time, big time. So Kyle walks into the bedroom. By the way, Salt Lake City could learn a tip or two about just installing some GoPro and letting them roll all night because, see, they would have missed this. So Kyle walks in and he's just, he walks into the bedroom and he just like, Amanda.

And then he walks out of the room, West walks out. So he goes up to Kyle and he's like, hey, go say you're sorry and like because like nothing happened outside you just like walk by and you said fuck you for no reason he's like well she gave me the fuck you lies which is like tenuous at best like what are you talking

about like that's like the worst excuse to ever pop off on your wife I mean you shouldn't have there's no excuse to ever pop off on your wife but that's just bad now you're just projecting some shit onto her no what she didn't Kyle he's like all right I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry so he goes to the bathroom where

Amanda is. I'm just watching up for bed. He's like, I'm sorry for saying, fuck you. I just don't feel like you paid attention to me. No, that's not sorry, Kyle. When you say, fuck you, but it's your fault. He's like, but I just don't feel like you paid attention to me. And she's just like, okay.

I mean, I just don't feel like, you know, you know what I'm making the effort with me? She's like, what would you define as making an effort? And P.S., don't forget, we are throwing you a party tomorrow that I'm organizing. But what would you define as making an effort? He's like conversing, talking.

So then Wes goes up to Ben's room and he's like, bro, she just cried to me for like 20 minutes. And that's like, fuck. That's like not good. And he's like, well, I don't know. I just didn't understand where it came from. Wow. Even late at night, I get applause just for being a model.

Well, with friends, like I've definitely been like conflict avoidant. But like, you know, I've got no choice in this situation to be part of the Kyle and Amanda mix because we live together, you know? And I care about him. And like, if Kyle's being a dickhead, like, I don't know who has Amanda's back. I'm just a boy. So then Amanda and Kyle are still talking.

And she's like, well, when we're all out, like, would you expect me to be like hanging out with everyone? He's like, yeah, but like instead of me, like you're hanging out with all of my friends. Like, what about maybe just hanging out with me? Kyle, you did not want to hang out. You wanted people to listen to you DJ. Stop pretending this is about Amanda.

You're upset because no one liked your performance. Yeah. She goes, so you want me to hang out with you while you're hanging out with all the random people? That's what you want. He's like, no, I'm only hanging out with strangers because you literally ignore me. It's like, no, no, no. That's just what you, you just said that. I don't know. I'm just letting you know how it is. That's all. Okay, Kyle, let me know how it is. So then we go back upstairs and West and bed are still talking. And West is like, I'm going to go check it back out. Wish me luck. And then in the bathroom, he goes, you're a fucking dumbass bitch. And she goes, oh yeah, I'm a dumbass bitch, Kyle. Great. And Weston Benner in the hallway.

And so she passes them and they hear that, obviously. And she's like, yeah, I'm just a dumbass bitch. I guess I'll go make some soda water. I'm fine, guys, whatever. And he's in there alone now in the bathroom alone, just going, you ignore me. All night long with our friends. You prefer our friends over me. Shit, I prefer the friends over you. You're an ass. Yeah, and again, like your argument falls apart because you go out across the country DJing. And you have a man that you're saying, like, it's like, I support you DJing, but then you don't even come home. You go out to like four in the morning. And even before the DJing even happened, the ongoing thing is that he would go get drunk until four in the morning.

And now he's going to complain that she prefers being with other people over him when he's been doing that to her for years. So Ben goes into, I guess, work the soda stream. with Amanda or something? Is it a soda stream they're working? He's like, you know how to work. He said she was going to make soda, but it didn't look like a soda stream. There's some contraption

or some weird late night, you know, carbonated experience they were having. So Ben's like, well, I've known him for a year. We've hung out at brunch. I've never seen anything.

I mean, this side of him, God, I've never seen that. I know he's stressed with lover boy. And I think sometimes Amanda just likes to push his buttons and that keeps building to a tipping point.

And then there's a, excuse me. you. Excuse you, sir. You know, and then we see a montage of Amanda like pushing his buttons. I'm like, shut up, Kyle, you know, and as Amanda said, she's never perfect, blah, blah, blah. She didn't do any of that today. And even if she did, nothing excuses this. That makes me crazy that Ben said this. I don't like that he said this. Like, she just pushes him until he explodes. Like, what the fuck? But he does end it with, you know, nothing I've seen warrants a blow up like that. Yeah. And, again, I mean, they, again, they have a toxic way of communicating.

Like he, I feel like is ignores her or he gets drunk and he is really obnoxious. And then her way of responding is that she takes these little digs at him, you know, and that does happen. But that's almost immaterial in this situation because this was unprovoked, completely unprovoked. And it was just awful. It's just a terrible thing to say to, you know, your life partner. So Ben's like, didn't worry, wist. I'm going to go have to talk with him.

And I'll say, listen, Coyle. I understand things are difficult with you and Amanda. And if you'd like, I'll take her off your hands. And then maybe the two of us can just spend the rest of the summer. Skinny dipping in the pool, back. What do you say, bro? So West is talking to Kyle. And Kyle's like, she'd spend more time with you than me in the last six months.

Kyle, you haven't been home for six months. Yeah. Yeah. What is he even talking about? And so in the kitchen, Amanda's just going to go to bed. And then West is still trying to talk to Kyle, which is pointless. You know, you can't talk to Kyle. when he's like this just wait till the next day when he's sober because this is stupid you can't

talk to a drunk person and west is like yeah but tonight we were at the bar and he's like oh yeah there's always like a fucking fuck you Kyle so I said it and goes no you said fuck you to her and she's like no I said fuck you back no but she didn't say fuck you to you uh huh it's always a fuck you Kyle no this is in your head Kyle uh she said it with her eyes he hates me and I hates me she doesn't talk to me I'll sleep in another bed I don't go the fuck if you're all don't fucking see the fact that she fucking hates me that I'm sorry then I'm like I don't know I'm blind I'm sorry west is like well don't apologize to me I'm just telling you that that shit's not

gonna help it's like I just I give up I guess you fucking hates me and by the way during all this time Amanda like they're talking in the bathroom and Amanda's back in her bed so she can hear all of this shit yeah and if Amanda does hate you I hate you at this point like what's wrong with you like I wouldn't blame her for hating you Jesus if this is just what you show on TV what do you like when the cameras aren't there, you know? Absolutely. So West leaves the bathroom and he goes in to say, I love you to Amanda.

And she's like, I'm sorry. And we still hear Kyle in the bathroom going, you fucking hates me. You fucking hates me. It's like making out with his JBL speaker. Like, let me please have you. Play Robin again.

Yeah, I'm so fucking over this shit. Well, now guess what? It's Saturday morning. It's 8.55 in the morning. Everyone's waking up. And it's like last night, never even happened. Lindsay FaceTime's Gemma.

And then Kyle is on his phone in bed while Amanda sleeps. And then Kyle tells us, there's no excuse to, you know, drop the F-Bomb and say F-U to your wife, but I'll make one. I'll make one. There I go.

That's my cue to make it good pieces. There's no excuse, but why not give it a college try? I can only go so long getting the cold shoulder, you know, getting them small but steady jabs. I used to think it was all my head until I've watched some of these summers back

and then we have a flashback to you know a nice healthy montage of Amanda shitting on Kyle for sure so he's like yeah man it's hard it's hard for me man yeah he's like yeah but now

I pick up on these jabs in real time and it doesn't even matter for having a good night I still get jabbed and it's just been piling up and piling up who does it sound like exactly like Craig from Southern Exactly. It's the same things. But they keep poking me.

They just keep poking me, poking the bear, and it piles up, and it piles up. And then I explode. It's not my fault. It's everybody else all the time. And the fact that you could watch summer house seasons back and come away with everything is Amanda's fault is crazy. Like, yeah, that's the thing. That shows zero self-awareness.

Yeah, absolutely. And so, cause, I mean, it's one thing if you're in a funk, but if you're having a blast, everybody but me is just sad. So then Jesse thinks are nicer in Jesse and Wes' room. Jesse's like, love you. It's like, I love you too. That was it. And then we go to the kitchen and KJ is texting Dara because she's coming in today for

the party and he's like, hey, can't wait to see you. The vibes are excitement. Are you on your way? And Dara's like, yeah, see you soon. I'm Dara. And then we see Dara, I'm going to bully you, but in a fun way. So then we go to Jesse and Kyle and Amanda's room and they're going to go work out. The boys are going to go work out.

And Jesse's like, good morning, pineapple. And she laughs and Kyle goes, wait, that's all you have to do to make her smile in the morning. I just got fuck you eyes. I just got fuck you eyes Benedict. Hey, look at me. It's Carl. Now that I'm on the first floor, I can walk into this room also and do a fun little dance. I'm in the mix.

Afterwards, we're going to go to Common Ground. And I'll do this dance for more and more people. So the guys go to the gym and then me and Sierra talking in their bed about the conversation at the last dinner, about, you know, living as a black person on reality TV. And she's like, you know, I'm really happy you brought that conversation up. You know, it was needed. How do you feel? And Sierra's like, I'm surprised I didn't cry more. You know, and she talks about how she gets a, no, we saw the flashback to the conversation.

And Mia's like, you know, I appreciate everybody in the house just letting you talk and holding space for the conversation and not interjecting and saying like, oh, I know what that feels like, you know, because you don't. Just actually, it's pretty impressive if you think about it for a reality cast to be able to just sit there and listen and not be like, yeah, I understand what it's like is like, you know, a lot of times people leave me mean comments about DJing too. It's like Amanda. Amanda does it. We call those anti-aggressions. a lot of blowback when you're a DJ. People just don't understand. They don't understand what you're up to.

I had to have a conversation when I was younger. The conversation was sometimes they'll come a day when you will be DJing and people walk out of the room and you have to be okay with it. It's a tough time for me as well, Sierra. So Sierra is like to me as saying like, yeah, we can sit here and be like this conversation is going to change the way we look at things and not, you know, and everyone else's world, but it's not. And so Mia's like,

Mia basically, they're just very appreciative that Sierra approached this conversation. So it was a nice like follow up conversation about the conversation. And, and they're just happy that at least they know they're like, well, we're not going to necessarily change the world with that conversation.

We, but like, it's just nice to know that the people that we live with can understand our experience. Yeah. So then outside, Amanda and Lindsay are in the, outside Amanda and Lindsay are in the kitchen. KJ. Swimming.

And Amanda and Lindsay are in the kitchen. talking and they're talking about how Lindsay got her sweatpants from Amanda and they're like such good friends now they can't believe it and Amanda's like yeah like what about you and Carl last night that was fun and then we see Lindsay being like yeah well I said you should date Carl like you may not ever fuck you but like at least you can have a conversation with you see I'm nice I love every time you say see I'm nice like oh she is like that's my friend she's so nice and Lindsay's like ah ah Well, how was the rest of your night? Did anything fun happen? And she's like, uh, and then we go back up to Sierra's room. And Mia's like, you know, we had such a long day yesterday. Like, I left the hot tub. I don't even know who went upstairs with me.

But like, I literally just left you guys because I was so tired. Like, who's downstairs? What happened? And then we go back down to Amanda and Lindsay. Yeah. She's like, you didn't hear any of it? Oh my God. I don't even know what happened.

Kyle was just being mean. He was like calling me names and throwing a hissie fit. And West tried to talk to him. I'm, what was he throwing a hiss even about? I don't even know. He was just, like, upset. I'm not hanging out with him. And then, oh, my God.

And then I cried, like, three times. I don't even know the last time I cried. And Lindsay goes, God me, Kyle. But she's, like, smiling still, which is weird. And then Amanda is just saying, like, you know, he's going through his own shit. It's not an excuse.

I didn't treat him like shit when I was depressed, you know, and we're going through whatever I was going through. And then upstairs, Sierra's like, yeah, I'm so over the way he speaks to her. like my gut reaction is you cannot have kids with him. Yeah, it's like, end the bloodline. Don't go far. Don't go any farther.

Don't get more involved in this. Don't throw good money after bad. Like exit. Yeah. I mean, if he talks to you like this, he's going to be like this with the kids. Like he'll be a baby with the kids, you know. And so. Be competitive with a child, by the way.

He will 100% lose his mind once there's a baby in the picture. Yeah. Another baby, I should say. As they often do. We see it happen over and doing. over again. Yeah, I'm mature men with the baby. Now you're paying more attention to the baby to me.

Oh, wow, the baby can DJ, but I can't. The baby's just like pressing buttons on the car stereo. Oh, yeah, you like the baby DJing. Cool, Amanda. So Mia's like, what do you baby, little baby bitch? He was like, what do you think is keeping them together? And here goes, bitch, I don't know. So Amanda's saying,

Well, it's his birthday party today, so we're going to make it a great day. Smiles all around. Yeah, like legitimately, you're like so good at compartmentalizing. Like, that is like a legit compliment. That is, by the, like, coming from Lindsay, that's a massive compliment.

Lindsay's like a bento box. So when she's like, you do such a good job, compartmentalizing, I can learn a thing or two, then you know you're really in some shit. Lindsay is like a silverware drawer. That bitch compartmentalizes, okay? She's like, she's like, I'm like a modular system from like you?

Yeah, so if she's saying that you're good at it, then whoa. Yeah, that's a high compliment. So Amanda's saying, well, you know, I have to. I guess I'm just excited to see what he looks like old. And she goes, yeah, and then you should be like the hot one. Like, you shouldn't even come down in age makeup. Um, uh-uh, I love being an old woman. Lindsay goes, I know.

No, it just suits me. I'm doing to pretend like I don't feel like that was an insult. But I want to wear a nightgown and socks at the club every night. So it's 11.19 a.m. You guys are returning from the gym. Carl's been training for a marathon. Guys, whole marathon. Um, people, KJ brings in some groceries.

They fall all over the floor. He's like, of course. Thank God. The eggs are rubber. Bandoned. Oh. Everyone's having a pool morning and Amanda just keeps going out there going out there saying, guys, I need help with decorations because there's a lot of stuff to bring in.

And they just kind of look at her and then jump in the pool and keep talking. Yeah. Nobody. Nobody will help her. So, by the way, this is on the heels of Kyle accusing her of not paying attention to him and not doing anything for him. And she's the only one setting up this stupid party for his birthday. Right. When he's nowhere to be seen.

after the nothing that he did last for her next week, or last week, except buying her a really expensive watch. Commercials. Here comes one right now. So in the kitchen, Lindsay's talking to KJ, and they're talking about Dara,

and he's like, oh, man, she's coming, but I'm, like, kind of in my head right now. You are? Yeah, but, like, it's fine. Wait, why are you in your head? Like, are you, like, nervous about everyone in the house? Like, knowing about your relationship

and trying to cause problems in your relationship. Because that would be terrible if that happens, you know? Because like, do you really like her? Or like, does she say she likes you? Or you like her? Oh my God, you guys said that already? He's like, yeah, it's like mutual. Um, yeah, because I know that Ben and her were kind of flirting.

So what happened with that? I would hate for people to be messy in your relationship. So- Yeah, everyone is like talking about that, but like, it's like, literally it was like nothing to her. She was just like flirting because like, she's like, yeah, he's a fun person to flirt with. Oh, is that, like, so why? What did that talk? What were they doing talking in his room for an hour?

He's like, wait, what? Like, Lindsay just drops the bombs. Lindsay's just such an effortless reality TV pro at this point. She's like pretending to be like all supportive and connected with Kaj. And she's like, so why was there and talking with Ben in his room privately behind a door for an hour? Do you talk about that? He's like, I'm here every other week and you're too happy. I don't know you very well, but here's what I do know.

You're way too happy to be on this show. So let me fuck this up right now for you. Let me crush you. young man. And he's like, what? But I'm like emo insensitive. Why are you doing this to me? I'm going to destroy you under the power of my reality TV spells. Oh my God. Look at your heart breaking. That's so sweet. Oh, my, can I just say one thing? Oh, whoops. Okay. So according to Bailey, like, Darrow went into Ben's room and they were in there for like an hour. And then we see a flashback to Lindsay, Levi, and Bailey having lunch. And Bailey being like, um, yeah, she literally

went into bed's room wearing one outfit and came out in another. And I was like, I mean, she went in in her costume and she came out in a different outfit. That's what I saw. Levi's like, well, it could be harmless. It wasn't harmless. I could tell there was a sweet green bowl in there. When there's a sweet green bowl, shit goes down. Okay?

It's just a different person. By the way, I love the idea that Bailey saw someone go into a room, close the door. They went in in a costume and came out not in a costume. Hmm, dare I say that might be a crazy concept called getting out of your costume. It's crazy. Well, you know that kink where you're dressed like a pirate, but then you fuck somebody and you're no longer dressed like a pirate. It's crazy. So KJ's like, uh, I didn't know anything about like the room thing.

Oh, God, I'm already nervous. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. I am so sorry. Whoops. her name again. She doesn't even know who KJ is. She's like, who is this guy?

You know, she's like, whatever. I'm just going to fuck shit up for him. He's like, oh, that's kind of weird, though. Oh, well, now you're going to be in your head about it. Sorry. Oh, oops. So then the day goes on and people are still trying to get set up. And Amanda's still doing everything by us.

We just see Amanda carrying things through the front door and like filling the pool with these blow up pills, which I'll talk. I guess is a sponsor, whatever they, whatever those. I think it's just because they're supposed to be old people, so it's like the medication that old people have to take. Yeah. So Lindsay, oh, I thought they were like those pills you get in the 7-Eleven. They're like, yeah, maximum strength, dicky, you know, Dick Exploder or whatever.

So Lindsay and Sierra see each other, and Lindsay's wearing a zebra outfit. And she's like, um, yeah, I wore this to fuck with Carl. Just kidding. I'm totally just kidding. but I'm not really kidding. And Sierra's like, oh my god, zebra, that's like a distant memory I forgot about. And we see a flashback to three summers ago

with Lindsay being like, Carl, really like zebras? He has a thing with stripes, right? Like he loves tan lines. He loves zebra. Like, he's really into it. He's like, if I go into a lady footlocker, I'm like, oh, oh.

So, yeah, those fake zebra, those fake animals, they brought in. That's like the cardboard cutouts of that year. Oh, I hated those. Those last have for so many years. I think they got those in season two, like off the side of the road at like some antique shop, and then they kept them around for years and years.

Oh, Wesley Stripes, I'll never forget. So, yeah, and we see footage of Wesley Stripes and Carl bring the fake zebra into the house. But, oh, we've got it. This is a little, be careful. Don't break up. He's got stripes. So hot. Oh, I love the stripes. Oh.

So back to present. Sierra is like, um, by the way, I do remember like being really like I was really stuck on this thing for a month. Like, Carl likes zebra. It was like messing. It's like rocking Sierra's world for a month where she was like, wow, so much going on in the world. But I don't like zebra. That's the one thing I can't make sense of. Yeah. So in the back, Carl sees KJ and he's like, how we doing, bro? How we doing? We in the mix? He's like, uh, I'm, I'm all right. Are you a little stressed. I sense it. I sense it, little brother. Come on, sit down. Tell me.

Tell Uncle Carl. Why are you stressed? He was like, yeah, you know, it's just like challenging, because I just heard some shit, bro. I'd like heard some shit. Like through word of mouth. Like whenever Darrow was here, she was just like in Ben's room for like

an hour or some shit. Yeah, well, I think though what you're going to discover a little bit, and Carl's gone through this a lot. Me as well, the time is that when there's two people in the house that have an interest in each other, it becomes fodder and vigor for the house, the whole house to discuss. Also, when there's one person in the house and they just have an interest, not necessarily in someone else,

but perhaps in, I don't know, brick and mortar, that also becomes fodder for the whole house. And I think it's just hard, especially because, well, I don't like to say that because I'm more of a soft guy, but it is hard, especially when you know you're new and trying to get to know her. So, I feel like, man. Yeah, like, if you think you're going to be in this house and stick your penis inside a wooden zebra's nostril and not get called out on it, you're in the wrong house. This morning, you know.

So KJ's like, yeah, I'm already, like, I've already anxious about Dara coming to the house and, like, making sure she's having a good time and feels like included. And then I'm being reminded of this party that I already felt jealous of Ben because I like Dara. And I'm just like, and I like her now. And like I've said, like, I'm a very honest person.

And if she wasn't being, honest about that, then like, what are you hiding? I'm like, okay, JJ. AJ, you're adorable, but like, you got her. Like, don't worry. Like, I think everything's okay. The insecurity, I can't. Like, you're a model. You are a model, sir. I want to hear it from you. He's like, what she likes that model more than me? It's like, you're both models. You would think that I would love model insecurity, but it's, it's making me crazy. I'm like sitting here, like, playing with my muffin top. I wonder if this lever go away or if I have to get this cut off.

And then I've got 20 pack up there like, I'm so insecure. I can't take it. So they're talking about her coming. And Kyle is like just, Kyle's there now. He's like, oh, he's like, yeah, she's coming here though, right? Just tune it out. Just tune it out. Just ignore it.

It didn't happen. I'm mad it didn't give you fuck you, fuck you eyes. Just keep telling you something that all day. So then at the pool chairs, Ben is sitting there with Jesse. see in West and he's like, so did you hear it last night's activities after you left? It's like, oh, yeah, that West was saying that it got pretty perturbed

when he came upstairs. No, no, no. I was saying I got the soda machine to work, made some sweet sweet salsa. What are you talking about? I like he says perturbed and West goes, whoa, that's a big word. And then we see footage of him being perturbed.

So then meanwhile, back to President Sierra walks up to the chairs. He sits She sits down with the guys and she's like, idiots. She's like, idiots. What's up? So they're talking about last night, and Wes says, you know, I told him he has to apologize. And he was saying that she gave me fuck you eyes.

And Sierra's like, are you being serious? He's like, yeah, I swear. And I was like, dude, what the fuck? We're just like sitting there. And then Amanda comes out. She's like, guys, there's still tons of decorations out front. She's like got stuff on her back in her arms. Sorry, we can't help you.

We're just talking about the destruction of your marriage and how you should never have babies with this man and probably should divorce him. Okay, good luck with that palm tree. We're all talking about how poorly we feel for you, but nobody's going to lift a finger to help you on this really rough day for you. Okay, get to it, Amanda. Jesus. Did she just give me fuck you, you guys? Because I'll kick that bitch's ass right now. Jesse's like, has anybody talked to him about it today?

do we know if he remembers Wes is like I was like teetering on the line of being Should we fucking ask him if he even has a fucking clue And she was like not today Like for his birthday Just like leave it alone And I just got like scared

Because it was like a confrontation So I just had to come Sunday instead It's like acting like he was actually gonna do this Like no you were never gonna do this You're just gonna swim around and loaf And relax by the pool Yeah And so Sierra's like yeah

Yeah, I don't know how she does that because if I'm pissed, everybody knows. And Wes goes, yeah, we know. And they'll start laughing. She's like, yeah, there's no gray area. So meanwhile, Amanda's like, guys, please can anybody help me? I'm not. They know what help me, please. Like, yeah, whatever, Amanda.

Okay, Amanda, good enough with that. God, poor Amanda, am I right, guys? Poor Amanda. And I don't know if it was happening at this specific moment or like in a few beats from now. At one point, she just has this tree. and she's just trying to set up this tree and the palm fronds keep slapping her in the face and I was like, this is the metaphor

and she's like, she's say everything's fine guys, everything's fine, everything's fine. That's next because they continue to talk about Amanda and whenever they're like, poor Amanda and it just cuts to Amanda being poked in the eye with the tree. And then she like literally just stands there like with the tree still poked in her eye and she's like

oh, poor one actually helps her. No one actually helps her. She also doesn't Get the fuck away from the tree. I have to point out, which is, it's like, get away from the tree, Amanda, Jesus. I can change the tree. I know I can fix the tree.

Yeah, I'll fix it. So Ben tells the tree just needs to feel supporting, guys. So Ben is talking to them still, the guys in Sierra. And he's like, yeah, you know, I had a chat with him. I went to Love a Boy to check it out. And I didn't realize this, but he's personally on the hook for Love Boy, millions of dollars. So apparently Kyle guaranteed a $4 million loan back when Loverboy was doing well and was still going up.

And there's still two million owed more than $2 million owed on this debt. So if Lover Boy takes and he's bankrupt and he lost everything to which I say, why would you do a personal loan? Like that's not my fault. Why don't you do that? That's a stupid decision. That is absolutely idiotic. So I get that that would stress you out and I feel for you because it's too. expensive lover boy's too expensive and i don't know do you ever see anybody drinking lover boy

because i feel like it should be it has enough press that it should be like a huge thing i think i guess what's weird to me is how is that that like you know 15 years later somehow black water still exists and i see it in stores i see it everywhere how is it that that is like thriving how is it that poppy the soda that those two people on a house on made that they like brought to whole food and they brought to a convention and then they bought a house on house hunters and then they stole that for like two billion dollars like that's doing well i guess i'm just saying i've answered i mean look the blackwater a was something that was marketed is health right because it's like the things that are in black while whatever it is the alkaline or

whatever it is that's why it's black and it's kind of a health thing also those guys sold it right away i mean they had black water they sold it to a huge company that's why it's still huge because They've got the huge company marketing it. Then you've got Poppy, and I think Poppy did well because it was another health thing. It was like a probiotic soda. It was like, you can drink soda, but you also get all these health benefits. Lover Boy is drinking and alcohol when that's kind of going down in the world. And there's also, it's also so oversaturated with that stuff.

Yeah, because like white claw and all that stuff. And also like sometimes those, I don't, I don't know what the status is of alcoholic, seltzers and sprits and whatever. But like, you know, drinking fads come and go. I mean, sweet tea vodka, hello. I used to love my sweet tea vodka. Oh, that was the best with like some lemonade.

Oh, the best. And you're like, this is the best thing that's ever happened to alcohol. I will never abandon it. And the next thing you know, it's gone. Mike's hard lemonade or like, you know, hard lemonade's here and then gone. So like, I don't know where the seltzer train is these days. But like if the fat is receding,

that probably is also part of it. Because as you wisely mentioned, mentioned those those beverages first of all are sodas or they're non-alcoholic and they're tied to health but like it just seems to me that Kyle has like a lot of has been able to give this brand a huge amount of press and we all know about lover boy we all know what lover boy is it's at all these events that he does and like the fact that it's tanking which is by the way is it great for business to announce like multiple times on your show that your business is totally tanking what went wrong here how did it go so far

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