Watch What Crappens - #3285 Married To Medicine S12E16 Part One: Take Your Menicine

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

This is part one of a two-part recapMarried to Medicine ends its reunion by letting the men squabble. Meh. Eugene is called out for being one of the women and Steve still refuses to pay for a Med Gala ticket. The women repeat their arguments from last week and then tell us all how inspirational they are. This could have been a one part reunion, but we’ll take all the Heavenly we can get before she becomes President and we never get to hear her call Eugene’s penis small again. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening,, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to Watch What Cropins. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben. Hello, Ben. How you doing? I am great. Thank you. How are you doing? Good. Had a nice weekend. I played some sackboy with my nieces. Went to dinner with my family. Some big family time over here in Texas. What'd you do? I played a bunch of board games and I cooked some food. And I went, I spent like yesterday like traveling around East Hollywood going to a million different supermarkets. And I wasn't, it was just like, I got caught up in it. I was like, well, I'm so close to the Armenian market. I might as well pop in there. Well, I'm so close to the Thai market and now might as well go there. Well, I'm so close to the Indian market.

I might as well go there. I spent like all this so much time just getting random ingredients and I had the best time. So I'm very happy. So what do you do when you go to that many stores? You just have a ton of food now that's going to go to waste in your house. It's just like random. It's just like random condiments and things like that. Like there was this, I was thinking about making a Thai thing.

And I was like, oh, but I don't have that. I'm out of fish sauce. I was like, well, no, I can get my fish sauce. And I was like, oh, but I don't have mustard oil. Like, ooh, but now I can get mustard oil. Oh, I was thinking about making this sweet potato thing, but it involves like a Turkish tomato paste. I was like, oh, but now I can get it.

So, you know, just a lot of condiments. A lot of jars. A lot of jars. Jarring weekend. it was a jarring weekend for you. So that's good. Well, everybody, this is Married to Medicine Day. If you want these videos on, if you want these recouts on video,

or you want bonus episodes, or you want ad-free listening, or you want Discord server, or you want a free newsletter, go over to patreon.com slash watch what crapans. Yeah, it's Married to Medicine Day. There has been some stuff going on in the Bravo world. We should probably discuss because it went crazy over the weekend. And that is the rumors that Amanda and West from Summerhouse are hooking up. You've heard this, obviously.

This has been going on for a while, eh? Yeah, I sure have. When we were at South by Southwest, the rumor was going around a lot. And I only mentioned that because we were at a lot of parties where people were talking about it. And someone in our little circle, who I won't say her name because she probably won't appreciate that,

but she said these rumors are confirmed. I know for a fact that West and Amanda are hooking up. up. I'm going to say anything because, you know, old Queen in a bar news isn't always true. And I just didn't believe it. I just didn't believe it. And I was like, I'm not going to play into this. It's probably a joke. Amanda has been known to, you know, lead us on in social media and not tell us the truth until she's ready, which is her right. But I just don't believe anything these people say. But apparently, it's looking more and more true. And the world has gone crazy. The world has been lit on fire. Amanda's being chased down streets and pushed down subway steps, I would imagine.

But yeah, the rumor is that they're hooking up. And this started again last week when Amanda and Sierra were supposed to do an Amazon live together and didn't. And everyone was like, what? If you don't show up to your Amazon live together, that means you hate each other, which it would in our case. I mean, if you decided to do a separate Amazon live for me, I'd be pissed. I think that would definitely be really awkward for all of our listeners if we like appear on separate Amazon Lads. By the way, we're on Amazon Lab today. Yeah. And then there was all this stuff.

The internet sleuths, sleuth starts sleuthing. It's like West has the same sweatshirt as Amanda. Is it, or is it, did Amanda take West sweatshirt? What happened? Amanda dab and his hat. And Amanda dabbed something off of his cheek. What's going on with that? And then the big thing.

that really set made things go nuts is that Lindsay Hubbard out of nowhere posted a screenshot of herself over the weekend going like this. And everyone was like, what? Why would Lindsay just post that? And then it was like, then she posted a picture of her with Sierra, hugging Sierra tightly. And then there was a there was like a story with like Austin. And he posted something about like your friend X. It's a plate of pasta. It's like plate. It's like plate. of pasta. They're having dinner. And it just said, apparently, pasta and fucking your exes, fucking your best friend exes are back

in. Wow. And the lips kept moving on the post. Yeah. Now, there's also an extra wrinkle there because was he talking about Sally? Because there's rumors of Kyle and Sally doing something. So I don't know. But now everyone thinks that this is all coded.

And then Kyle, I mean, Carl posted a screenshot of himself. Being like, oh. So now Carl That's a famous screenshot of Carl where he's just looking confused. It's just they posted on every summer house thread. It's just Carl like, oh? So he posted that. And they're like, oh, my God, Carl confirmed it.

And then they post, KJ posted a picture of him looking like confused. Oh my God, KJ. KJ did it too. And then who else posted? Someone else posted a picture of them looking confused. Two judgy girls posted, wow, everybody's so worried about Sierra's feelings in this, but no one has said, gee, how is. Kyle gonna feel and then Kyle posted under like a crying face.

And like a yeah, that's right. He also posted something in support of Amanda where he was like, watching the episode back is just like terrible. I know I should be treated that way. But I think that was neither here nor there. So I know that was just clean up after his own bad behavior on that episode. There's suspicion that the cast is just trolling the audience. But I will say, you know, let's never forget.

Lindsay has never truly liked Amanda. People, you know, a lot of people don't go all the way back with Summerhouse, but we remember season two. Was it season two where Lindsay excised Amanda from a photo, a group photo. And Kyle wrote a 19 page manifesto in response. Was that season three or season two? Either way. Two or three.

It was an early season, but like Lindsay cut Amanda out of the group photo. So they, by all accounts, they seem fine. But Lindsay sort of like embracing Sierra on her, on her IG story when all the stuff is going on. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think it's a joke at this point because people really probably are pushing Amanda down subway stairs or like throwing cans at her head. You know, like people, the Bravo audience, if they hate you, especially for something like this, I mean, they're not going to be, I wouldn't post this as a joke.

And especially if you're like prone to depression because this is not ever going to make you feel that. I don't think Amanda would agree to joke around about this. But I don't know because she is, they're all doing a lot of, you know, influencing and stuff like that right now. And it'll be like a post comes out. And then it's Amanda doing an influencing post for Buffalo Wild Bills or what is that called Buffalo Bill's Wildlings. Buffalo Wildlings. I believe in that Amanda's eating at the Buffalo Wild Wings. Why is supposed to believe that?

So she's doing that. And so people are like, well, maybe they're just doing it for the money. But I don't know. Is it terrible to say that it doesn't, I don't really care if Amanda and West made out? Well, I just want better for her. If she's going to get into a scandal with anyone, like, just why not? Why West? Why West?

And also I feel like there's been so much attention being put on a, Amanda like, oh my God, what a bitch, which is, it's bad. It's bad for many different reasons. But also, like, if it, if this is true, let's also like reserve some heat for West, who we are, we watched half a season of him on Summerhouse, you know, moping around. Actually, it was all last season moping. And then this season, like, I think she likes me. I think I'm in love with her. You know, and if, if, if we, you know, if we know that he is actually having some sort of affair with Amanda this whole time, then, like, really, I've had enough with him.

Yeah, because he's obviously just using that for a storyline this season. Like, I'm so heartbroken with Sierra. Meanwhile, he liked Amanda that whole time. Yeah, it's pretty gross. And, you know, he is a downgrade from Kyle. I know Kyle makes everybody crazy, but, you know, Kyle becoming a DJ, we're giving Kyle so much shit for that. But that's his second job. Like, he also is running this company into the ground.

but still running a company and, you know, that's like his second job. West, if West became a DJ, we'd be like, oh, my God, West has a job. Like we deployed, you know, so he's a downgrade. And I really hope this isn't true, but it's looking true. So, I don't know. Well, yeah. Well, we will be tracking this story, everyone. Don't you worry.

We'll be on top of it. And we'll have all the late breaking news on this potential, you know, scandival level. summer house issue. I don't think it's Scandibald level, but they're trying to. You know, I think it's, it's not Scandival level because it's having a slow simmer to a boil, as opposed to Scandival, which like dropped like a bomb, you know, and so I think it was like, the suddenness of that was crazy. And it wasn't cheating.

Scandavall was cheating. I mean, that was like a 10-year relationship. He was cheating with the best friend and stuff. This wasn't that. They're like separated and whatever. and it's west. It would be AmandaVall, right?

Amandaval? This is what Scand, well, we already have Scamanda, scandal scandal house. Scummer house. All right, well, enough of that. Let's get on to,

oh, I open notes for Survivor. This week's bonus episode is going to be a Survivor Recap, holler. Okay, so the wrong notes. Let me open, Married to Medicine, season, 12 episode 16 reunion part two I'll just start by saying this could have been a one part reunion you know they had a supersized reunion last week they could have just ended it that's all I needed I didn't need this how about you uh or it could have been a two part one with one that's not

supersized I don't know I mean I enjoyed that I enjoyed I enjoyed the husbands chopping it up a little bit more than I thought I would. I feel like they've basically been biting their tongues for 12 years and finally they've had enough. You know, Eugene was like, we've been here for 12 years. There's never been this drama. It's like because they've all just, it's been building up. It's 12 years building up and everyone's like sick of Eugene, you know. But like by and large, yes, you know, maybe maybe we could have edited out some other segments that were not as well. It was a lot of retreads. It was just a lot of things that they already talked about last week that they're trying to keep it going for another episode. You had a supersized. Was this supersized

two? No, it wasn't. So they had a supersized one last week, so at least cut out half and put it on this week and have a two-part. I mean, I don't know, but it was like a bunch of talking about the same shit. But anyway, it's always enjoyable because it's these ladies. So I always laugh, but I was like, all right, wrap it up. Wrap it up, guys. Get the hook. So we ended last week with Simone crying and Jackie come to sit, coming to sit right by her and being like, tell me, Tell me, Simone, what can I do? And Simone being like, I will not move forward, never, ever. Not gonna, not shun it, whatever she was saying.

I will not. And when we finished that episode, you said until five minutes when she will forgive her and it'll all be over. And I laughed, you know, but you were not exaggerating. It was literally, it was less. I was actually, I was exaggerating. Five minutes was too generous. It was literally 30 seconds because as it turns out, the thing that they've been promoting, which is we are never getting back together, Taylor Swift.

We are never. It is weak. I'm not, I cannot move. There is no moving forward, Jackie. And then when we come back and it's like, and he's like, what did you mean? You can't move forward with heavenly. I was like, oh, come on. Oh, with you, I'm fine.

Yeah, but with Jackie. Yeah, yeah, I'm fine. I can't move forward with the narrative that. I am aggressive and I'm unhinged and pushing people. Okay, but can you move forward with Jackie? It's like, oh yeah, Jackie, yeah, yeah, you know. But not if you can't take a stance on right and wrong, okay? And you saw the footage.

And Heavenly's like, but she did take a stance. She did take a stance on, you know, Heavenly's still trying to make a point over there. So Simone's like, Jackie, I want you to tell me what the footage showed. Did I push Heavenly like she's a legend? And she's like, and the answer is, no, you have not. You did not push her. I want to take accountability for what she did. They're screaming at me.

That's uncalled for. She screamed at me. Jackie's like, but you did not push heavenly. Thank you. All right. That's all she did her to hear. No, no, no, no, but she needed to hear some more shit. She didn't tell her.

She didn't tell her more shit. So Jackie's like, are you not threatening that you are not threatening to anybody, not even a flea. okay, I am on the record. And Simone's like, I may be shady, though. And then they're smiling and laughing. And Jackie's like, I'm going to hug you. It's like, oh, you're going to ask for permission to touch me.

You've never had to do that before. Shut up. And then they hug. And it's all resolved. Yeah, and everyone's like, oh my gosh. And Jackie says, well, you should not have been followed me, though, Simone. And she goes, that's true. I shouldn't have.

Simone, get your phone out and follow Jackie back. We are inspirational women. We are women who are there for each other through thick and thin, through follows, through unfollows. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappence commercial. All right, well, first of all, round of applause. I feel healed. I feel healed.

You worked a miracle today, Andy. Praise him. I don't, I didn't work any miracle. Oh, Jessica goes, did you just say praise him? Yes, I did. I'm praising him. Now, the rest of the ladies have seen the footage. You agree that Simone did not push or get physical.

And they all agree. And they go around the whole circle. It's like, hi, Quad, hi, Contessa, hi, Mimi. It's literally every person. Contessa, what did you think? Mimi, what did you think? What did you think? What did you think?

And they all say no. And Contessa's like, yeah, and you know, Heavenly, every time you start stuff, you literally go for security every single time. And she goes, no, no, that's for you. That's for you. That's for you. Not one of the person I'll use security on, but I will use it for you. Well, you use these trigger words that we're talking about. Like, you're unhinged.

I'm saying, what is this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Condessa, I never said threatened. I said I said she was volatile. That's all. So now we cut to the man in the back room and Scott's like, okay, the ladies are looking good so far. And Curtis goes, hey, be careful how you talk about my wife.

The only lady on the screen was my wife. And he's got something to say, they're like ribbing each other, you know, because Scott's saying that like, oh, and, you know, like, oh, is Jackie's fine. Jackie's fine. So they're going back and forth. And seems like things are calmer backstage compared to the tension that happened earlier. And then Curtis jumps in and he's like, Eugene, Eugene, please hear me. know, in the group we've talked about not getting ourselves caught up in the stuff that our wives do. But Toya has perpetuated this lie out there.

And Eugene's like, what lie? What lie? What lie does she perpetuate? And he says, well, she got on national TV and said that I put on my hands on her and I put hands on other women. Dun, dun, done, done. So we see that clip from Watch What Happens Live. And Curtis is like, well, she said that other women told her that. And so Curtis is like, well, you speak to what you're.

wife says because you're always agreeing with her. And he goes, well, oh, well, I don't know what they told her. Why do you agree to it if you don't, if you don't know, it goes because my wife has said that you pulled her. And then Steve is like, Steve, what's so funny is that Steve has his little finger and he's like wagging his finger the whole episode. He always pulls it out, this little finger and he's like, because it's convenient. Because it's convenient. And Chris is like, yeah, you sat there and you supported, you supported her, Eugene. And she's like, because it's convenient. And Eugene's like, I do support her. She's my wife. It's like, but you sat there and you support her for that lie.

You support her. It's convenient. It's convenient. Call him at 7-Eleven. It is convenient. It is convenient. And so Eugene's like, well, what's the lie then? What's like, well, the lie is that I put my hands on different women. And Eugene goes, well, too. And he goes, did I touch your wife? Yes, I did. Okay. Well. Eugene's like, thank you. Thank you for finally acknowledging what was blatantly on TV. And so Cecil's like, hey guys, I think we missed some other shit that's happening on TV.

I was like, shut up, Cecil. They were finally getting somewhere. Not really, because Curtis is just going to always come in with some bullshit that he's guilty of. That's the thing. Curtis, just be quiet. Curtis is not the messenger. Somebody to bring the message, but it's not you. You are not the messenger, sir.

Yeah. So we go back. And Heavenly is like, yes, you are strong. You are a strong contestant. And she says, well, based on what you went through. and she goes, oh, this one here, this one here. I will whip her. I will grab her by the throat.

I'm not afraid of Simone, but I'm afraid of you, bitch. And Contessa is like, wait a minute. And he goes, wait, wait, can I just say something? Look, let me just say something. It's not the greatest look to say you felt physically threatened by her, and then to say I'm going to rip your throat off. No, I said I was going to whip her ass, Andy. That's what I said.

I'm not going to rip her throat. I'm going to whip her ass. Okay, whip her ass. Randy's like, that's unhinged. It's like, well, let's talk about the beginning. Fred, um, what's your name? We need to go back. Andy, is that your name?

Fred, Frank, Frank, Frank. What's your name? Crazy him. Andy does that thing where he wags his head and like looks like confused. Okay, whatever my name is. I'm only running this show. You know that Andy doesn't like having his name being, um, forgotten. I mean, just look at his response to Sarah Michelle Geller last week,

which is another thing that was, that was a big thing. You saw that, right? I saw that he was offended or whatever, but I didn't, I didn't read much about it. Tell me. Yeah, he was, because Sarah Michelle Geller went off about how Beverly Hills was just like so lame this season. And then Andy was on his radio show. It was like, she came into like radio, she has the radio Andy sign right behind. And like, that's my show and like, I love this season.

Andy's like going, he is, he is standing two feet down that Beverly Hills is having a tremendous season when no one else agrees. And he got really mad at Sarah Michelle. So I think that they're beefing right now. Oh, Lord, Andy, get over it. Beverly Hill sucks this year. Everybody agrees. Like nine out of ten dentists agree that Beverly Hills is boring as fuck this year. Don't take it out on Buffy. Okay.

Yeah. And don't have people on. Just because they're in your house doesn't mean they have to agree with everything. This isn't like a real housewife show. Like, don't be mean to me in my own home. Don't call me a wimp in my own home. You're a wimp. Okay.

If you don't want me to call you a wimp, don't invite me over. Yeah, exactly. So Simone's like, she doesn't know your name, Andy, but she has your vote. And Contessa says, well, let them know whose house it is Andy. He's like, oh, working on it. You know I did the right thing? I removed myself and I was not going to come on that girl's trip. Brady's like, but you still came on the girl's trip.

Lime. Lyle. Live. Lyle. All right. I want to switch gears. Okay. On a lighter note, let's talk about teaching kids medical professional, blah, blah.

It's a medical professional montage. Wow, look at everybody working and doing great, doing great work. The unspoken rule of reunions is at the second segment. They always have like a, okay, here it is. The unspoken rule of reunions is that once they resolve the cliffhanger, the next segment is the one that you can go to the bathroom on because it's always like the goofy segment where it's just about nothing.

It's like, okay, let's being a lighter now. Let's see if the funny things have happened when you're teaching kids. Like, okay, go into the kitchen to get a Diet Coke. All right, well, great work, ladies. So, Allah from Hamburg, California, says, I feel like social media has turned us into all into part-time doctors. What health trend from social media makes you want to scream into the void because patients keep trying it?

Jackie, come on now. It's like, well, they don't want us to do certain things to the babies, and they don't want to take certain medicine because the TikTok trend says, don't do this. So we compete with TikTok all day long, Andy. I can't tell you the last time I was able to deliver a baby without first throwing my elbows to the right, throwing my elbows to the left, and twerking, Andy, it's just how it is. Do you know how difficult it is to deliver a baby while the mother is singing, yo, ho, all hands? They've just got to stop watching North Sea TikTok. One patient didn't want a certain zodiac sign and refused to be delivered.

Blood pressure elevated 38 weeks. She just did not want a Virgo, Andy. And quiet goes, they're just dumb. Yeah, honestly, I can't imagine the doctors who have to deal with that bullshit. That's, like, actually infuriating. You go to medical school and you put in the hours in the residency, just have some ding-dong being like, I know I may die, but it's important for me not to have my baby during this zodiac sign.

Oh, my God. Well, yeah, like TikTok videos. Like, I don't want you to do that because I saw on a TikTok that you, you know, you're supposed to hold the baby this way. I mean, people have just gotten so stupid. I was watching this thing today, a TikTok probably about, and it was by teachers. And it was all these teachers who were quitting across the country. And they're like, I've just fucking had it, man.

I mean, these kids are idiots. And you can't tell them anything or you get kicked out. or you get reprimanded or something and they're just like I'm done like and people are just so stupid the stories are telling it's like okay I tell them to open their books to page 14 and then they all just stare at me and you've got 50 kids just staring at you like huh open your books huh and then if you say anything if you call the parents they're just like fuck you and they hang up on you I don't know what do you do the world's just gotten too stupid stay inside that's what I say yeah like I'm sorry like I do hear those stories and I hear stories about how yeah like the like the it's like you can't say anything to the child you can't you can't reprimand it's like oh my god these poor teachers these poor doctors there's just stupidity out there and it's just it's too it's too much to deal with anyway back to bravo which is not stupid at all back to spending our lives talking about housewise i know back to our work on a podcast called watch what crapans back to our super intelligent lifestyles uh so and

Andy asks some political stuff. He's asking about DEI, the cuts in DEI and the education department affecting doctors of color. And Simone's like, well, I wouldn't be here if I didn't get the Pell Grant and other types of aid that didn't require me to pay it back. And, you know, they're talking about DEI and stuff. And Contest is like, yeah, I mean, I needed it too. Like, you can get an acceptance letter, but what does that mean if you can't go to the school? Like, if you can't afford to go. You know, my dad was a truck driver.

My mom worked at the post office. So where are we going to get 400 grand to put me through medical school? Yeah. And then Quad points out that, um, that nurses are no longer deemed a medical profession, which I did not know that. And I mean, look, I don't, how was that even possible? That's, that is wild. Who, who deemed that?

That's absolutely absurd. Okay. If nurses, if nurses have to deal with that, is that a rhetorical question? Who deemed that? Who deemed that? Who deemed that? Who did that? Honestly, if these...

Who deemed that? Who did that? Who did that? Honestly, if these nurses have to go around cleaning up the poop out of people's beds, I think they are entitled to be called a medical profession. I'm sorry. If they're taking my temperature, if they're taking my blood pressure, you in my mind, are part of the medical profession.

And that's crazy that that was taken away from the news. nurses. That's crazy. I can't believe it. Now, of course, we're sitting here talking about like, look at out these kids getting their news from TikTok, and I'm literally getting my news from whatever quad is saying on the marriage, domestic reunion. But I, I, I, I, I feel like that has to be true. Well, nursing has not stopped being considered a medical profession by the public, but starting July 1st, 2026, the U.S. Department of Education will stop classifying nursing, including advanced practice registered nurses as a professional degree for the purpose of federal student loan limits. The reclassification is part of a new federal regulation stemming from the Trump administration proposal.

One big beautiful bill act that redefines which graduate programs can access higher federal loan limits. Wow. $50,000 a year. So, yeah, you were wondering who? Gee, I wonder who. I wonder who would have done that. I can't believe that the Department of Education that is now run by the former matriarch of the World Wrestling Federation now is decided to make nurses not medical. Jesus.

Who would have thought something chaotic like that would happen? This is what this timeline is just a fucking joke. My God. So, yeah, they're all talking about what a travesty this is. you know, obviously it is. And Andy's like, well, you know, the show's always been unique that it doesn't shy away from real world conversations. And so he asks about Alex Peretti, a fellow nurse, and his death during protest against ICE and doctors and nurses, what thoughts or emotions did that bring up? And Heavenly says it's devastating because a lot of people feel like a white man would have been protected because a white man died. That means we all can die. And we thought that they had privilege under this administration. but nobody does and it's scary for all of us. Yeah, and then Andy asks about gaps in medical care, like mortality in black community, et cetera.

And so Jackie is talking about that there's period poverty and about black community has more who died from breast cancer and cervical cancer and ovarian cancer and there's also colon cancer. And then Andy brings up that there has been an uptick in HIV amongst black women in Atlanta, to which Contessa notes that, you know, that's why it's important for everyone to be on prep. It's not just for gay men.

Yeah. Yeah, I was talking to friends recently and nobody even knew what prep was. I mean, there were straight people, but they didn't even know what prep was. I was like, really? I guess gays are the only people afraid of HIV because take it. So. Do your prep. Do your prep.

Misan plus. I'm like, guys, that was so funny what I just said. Misan plus, the gay sex medication, preventative HIV medication for really fancy people. Yeah. If you're an Epicurean who's having sex, please get on Muzon Plus. Mise on prep. Okay, guess what? The husbands are now on stage, and because they're men, they cannot be put on sofas where they may risk touching themselves.

like so they're put in chairs because that would be the worst if someone's shoulder brushed up against someone else's shoulder. No homo bro. No homo bro. And Eugene has gotten his wish after acting like a housewife all season. He has been given first chair. And he's like, first chair. I've never been at first chair or violin or anything. I mean, this is weird. And Andy's like, welcome back to the married medicine reunion.

I'm Andy going. And we've got the guys. Hi, Cecil. Hi. Here we go. Did Sidon make you fly frontier to get here, Cecil? He's like, no, fortunately, I didn't have to fly frontier. I made it.

He's like, great, Curtis, how's it going? Curtis's like, great, great, great, no complaints. Where did you find that woman that you have on your lap? Oh, I just pulled her from craft services. Well, you should probably let her get back to that now. Okay, I will. Who's just one woman, Andy, not two. Thank you very much.

Okay, Dr. Damon, Steve. Oh, Steve, you've got some eyes. You've got some cleavage. And he's like, yeah, you know, listen, I've been in the gym. I've been in the gym, man. So I'm going to show it off. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Yes, you have. Hey, Dr. Scott has the eyes. Scott's like, it's fun. It's good. He's like, okay, well, I understand there was some drama backstage, which is why we pretty much have you out here right now. You want to tell us all about Curtis, Eugene. What happened?

And Eugene's like, what drama? I don't remember any drama. And Chris is like, guys don't create drama. That's for the ladies. Oh, is that right? Because last time I checked, you guys were all sitting out here

because he made so much drama backstage, okay? So Eugene's like, yeah, we had a discussion. And Andy's like, well, what was the discussion about? It's like, well, so at some point, there's been twice that Toya has been asked about Lapgate and I was, you know, not angry about it at the time. So there's been no beef with that. But Toya is still, you know, I think to this day,

a little offended by being pulled into somebody's lap. And so Curtis voiced that he, well, he didn't agree that that ever happened. And Curtis is like, well, Eugene, at risk of sounding like a woman and arguing. Am I right, guys, women? I'm going to beg to differ. You know, Toya was on Watch What Happens Live. And she said that women have come to her and said that I've had my hands on multiple women, which is a flat out lie.

And then we go to the ladies backstage and Troy is like, no, I didn't. I said he needs to keep his hands to himself because he's had his heads on multiple women. which I was like basically I actually rebound it like three times because Curtis says she said I've had my hands in multiple women and he and

Toya literally goes no I said he needs to keep his hands from himself because he's at his hands on multiple women and she says in this like nice way to Jackie like isn't this fun like no I said because he's had multiple hands hands and multiple women right Jackie and Jackie is like

a tort argument Victoria argument 100% I did say that. I said it. It's like, what? So, Jackie's like, but you mean on the show? She was, show or not? Okay, but on the show, it's two. But off the show, it's three, Jackie. And it's all your fault anyway. So are they including the affair?

I don't know. I don't know what Toro's ever talking about. Jackie goes, oh, it's mine. Okay, she goes, yeah, because you said he didn't do it. Jackie goes, well, he didn't do what, baby? Well, he didn't pull me in his lap, and so that's what stuck with me all these years. Now, look, I've always agreed with Toy on this one.

Like Curtis fully pulled her into his lap and it made her feel very uncomfortable. And it was crazy that neither of them apologized with the swiftness that they apologized to quad this season about what Curtis said about, you know, fertility. And so, and I think this could have been squashed years ago because if Curtis thought he was just playing around, but it made Toya feel uncomfortable, he could have 100% just apologized for that and Jackie could have apologized for that and they could have moved on. But the fact that they didn't at that time, obviously it stuck with Toya. And I actually would never take that away from Toya.

But what I think is crazy is that Curtis can't still seem to acknowledge that. Like, that's wild to me. Well, but he, I mean, what's weird about Curtis is he did just acknowledge it backstage. He said, did I pull your wife into my lap? Yes. But now we're on the stage. And Eugene's like, well, you wouldn't. even admit that you pulled my wife into your lap and he says because you wouldn't admit that

you perpetuated that lie what lie that you pulled her i think the lie is that like courte i i'm assuming because it's not really stated i don't know i don't know why it's so it's so clear to me i'm assuming that curtis's stance whether or not is true is that he pulled toy into his lap he was horsing around and it was an overstep he didn't realize and but he's not going around just touching all the women on show and making them feel uncomfortable. That's, I think, his stance. And Toya stance is, no, he is doing that. He's got his hands on a lot of women on our cast. And then when the show isn't rolling, he's also being handsy with other people. So I think that he's taking issue with this idea that he's sort of generally handsy. But I kind of feel like the first thing that he needs to do is acknowledge

the Toya situation because that was on camera and we've seen that. And then he could say, I was horse around, but like, you know, I learned my lesson. So I'm definitely not handsy after that I'm not trying to defend him. I'm saying like that's what he should be saying. And I'm sort of surprised that he couldn't even get there. Yeah, I think he admits that the Toya thing, but the problem is he wants to make it this huge argument that it's not multiple women. Well, okay, Curtis, but we saw that with Toya and then we know that you were having an affair with someone like 30 years or junior. Was it 20 or 30 years? I forget one of those, um, you know, for a while to the point that it was being posted on blogs and shit. So you don't need to be arguing. It's like, oh,

So it was just two. So it was just two and not three. Oh, okay. Why are you bringing it up? Just say you're sorry and let it pass. But you're the one you keep bringing it up over and over to try and win some little point against Eugene that's not making you look any better, Curtis. And also like Eugene like has not looked great this season. And this is you're giving Eugene an easy win here too.

Just in terms of if we're going to talk about like a murder like winning, quote unquote winning a reunion. You know, just a podcast. apologize, take accountability that you did something, you know, like that was inappropriate. And then let Eugene continue to dig his grave because, you know, Steve is going to be, is going to be and continues to be all on top of Eugene, you know. So like, you just have to get out of the fray, Curtis, and you're staying in the fray because you're being too stubborn to admit that you did something wrong here. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

Yeah, so they go back and forth because he's like, well, I'm not going to, I'm not going to say anything until you admit it. And he's like, well, I'm not going to admit it until you admit that you're admitting things. And so they go back and forth. And Andy's like, okay, we can leave that there. So let's talk about massages on the beach. Wow. Looking at you, Damon, because you told Anthony, you didn't get one. And he's like, I thought I did, though. You thought you did what? Well, I don't remember getting a massage. Look, we get a massage weekly. So what I consider a massage is what our massage, uh, massage Melanie, her massage lady Melanie does, you know. Oh, you mean the ass to be on a table?

Yeah. It's not a massage if it's not on a table, Andy. Okay. Does Andy have any interest in it in talking to these guys? He seems so like not, like this, why is he asking about this massage thing? It's so stupid. Also, like, Andy just spent a good amount of energy trying to heal Jackie and Simone. I'm actually a little surprise that he didn't jump in with Eugene and Curtis.

to be like, I think what he's trying to say is this and what he's trying to say is that. And it was weird that he just sort of like sat there and let them talk about it. And then he just like moved on to the stupid question about the massages. Yeah. Well, that has something sexual to it. And that's Andy's favorite thing. You know, like, oh, were you cheating on your wives by getting massages on the beach? Okay.

Well, gentlemen, we saw you go through some bumps with your wives. Eugene, you got a lot of side-eye from the other men about how you and Toya, went at each other during the skip workday party. You called it a married moment. And he's like, yeah, you know, like, look, I think you'd be lying in your relationship if you've been together for a long time. If you didn't have a moment where you said something you didn't mean, you know, we just happened to be on TV with a bunch of people at our house at that moment. And, you know, maybe there was also a couple of people that might not have been invited had this not been in all cast event. Okay, stop, stop making it like, oh, well, it was a cast event. So we had people that

We didn't like there. You and your wife were yelling at each other like fools at your house at your party. And it made everyone uncomfortable. And you acted like crazy people. And then you turned around and blamed everybody else for it and said everyone else just didn't have as strong as marriages as yours. No, you know, that's crazy. This is crazy talk. He's wondering why they got side eye.

It's because you are on TV. He's like, well, it just happened. We know, we were just like a typical married couple said something. It came out wrong. I just happened to be on TV. I'm like, it's because it was on TV that you were getting the side eye. Because everyone was like, how are you two acting this way in front of people on TV? That's where the side eye is from is that it was such a crazy public disregard of how

embarrassing you were being to like your family in that moment. Yeah. And at a party. Yikes. And it's like, yeah. So people were just, I mean, they just, oh, yeah. So married people don't fight at parties on TV. I mean, come on.

So Steve is like, sounds like a narrative spin to me and that's the truth. And Eugene is like, you didn't have to comment, Steve. He's like, I do have to comment because the blame was put on Mimi, but now you're going to have a, you're not going to have a married moment. He's like, well, it wasn't just me, she called out a bunch of ladies. No, no, no, no, no, no. It was very specific in the moment. It was you B's did this to me.

Mimi and heavily, that's what it was in the moment. And I did not hear you take accountability for that. I have not heard an apology for that. Where's the apology? Where's the apology? He's like, well, there is no apology because I saw Mimi's face. and it had judgment in it. And I saw Heavenly's face and it had judgment.

Yeah, because you were acting like a fucking fool at your party. Of course. They were looking at you like, what the fuck are you doing? Yelling at your wife in front of people. Have you seen your wife's face? Have you seen the opening credits of the show? She's being judgy to the audience. Okay, that's what Toya does.

And by the way, love her for it. That's what we want from Toya. Like, you're on a show with judgey opinionated people. And like, you cannot hold that against them. That is why they are there. They're there to express their opinions. So hush, hush with the judginess. So Steve's like, I see you.

I see what you do. I see who you are. Convenient. Hey, why do you keep the water so close to the entrance of the store? Convenience. Convenience. So he's like, I'm going to hold you accountable. And Eugene's like, whatever.

And he goes, you're Eugene Bush. Like, oh, right. We can always bring some sexism into it. there hasn't been enough. It's been like five minutes. Like, can we be like less sexist for one fucking minute of this show? Cecil chimed. Now, meanwhile, you know, Curtis is up there, like not fessing up to being inappropriate at Toya. Cecil's quiet at the moment that Steve says, you're Eugene Bush. Cecil's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you made a guy sound sort of like a girl that's in a, whoa, it's too much. Come on, Steve. That's not right, man. That's too

much. He's like, no, Cecil, we're not doing that. We're not doing that. And Eugene's like, okay, you've been rude all day, Steve, all day. He's like, yeah, it's not right. Man, whoa, like giving him the maiden name. Whoa, Steve, I've been on the stage for 12 years and you just got here, Steve. He's like, well, I've been here and I didn't say anything. I've been good. But you've been convenient, very convenient.

My figure is waiting at extra high speeds now. You're so convenient. And Eugene keeps saying over and over, well, I've been on this show the longest. Eugene, you suck, okay? You've been on this show and now you are turning into a real housewife and you need to just stop. It's so annoying. Just let your wife fight her own battles. You know, Daddy has it right how he does it. He's just like, what? What does heavenly do? Okay, well, she did something wrong? I talked to her. And they're like, when? When did you talk to her? Off the camera. That's how you're supposed to do it. What? Like, just play dumb. Okay. We're not here to watch Eugene fine. So he's like, well, I've been on this show for 12 years and you just got here. And now look, the energy's off this year. And Steve's like, I didn't say anything. And Eugene's like, yeah, well, you're one of the new people. who are here and I'm just putting it out there. I'm just putting it out there. No, but these fights are

you. I mean, there is the one with Steve. But this is you. This is Curtis. This is you fighting for your wife is why these fights are happening. It's not because of these fights with Eugene, these fights with Eugene were happening before Steve even came on the show. I remember

there was a thing with Eugene and Anila's husband. I don't really remember what happened with that fight, what caused it, but I know that Anila's husband had to like apologize to Eugene or something. It was like awkward. But I feel like any time the guys have had some sort of friction, it's always been Eugene in the center of it. So then Eugene is like, oh, there's never been this weirdness, whatever. And then Chris is like, wait, wait, wait, but where did it start?

It started at your house. No matter if he's here, two years, 12 years, 20 years, there's a respect that goes between men. We're going to respect him because he does not have boobies. That's right. So Eugene's like, Curtis, we understand. We don't, you know, you don't like my wife. You have an issue with my wife. I get it.

I guess like, no, no, I've got no issue with the truth. I've got an issue with the truth and being accountable. I'm like, but Curtis, you're not being accountable and you are trying to bend the truth. But that's fine. Yeah, exactly. Eugene being an idiot doesn't mean you're not an idiot. So Andy's like, okay, let's move on. Damon, you're right that Andy's just saying let's move on instead of trying to work anything out.

I don't think he watches it. I think he's just like, right, get me through this. I want the ladies back here. I'm not here to talk to a bunch of heads. husbands. If I wanted to have to deal with a husband, I would have found one for myself. Maybe he's also like slightly intimidated by them, you know. He's like, like older, older men. And he's like, you know, like maybe he like goes back to a place of like I'm like the gay kid on the playground or something like that, you know, but I don't

know. But Andy is like, let's move on. Damon, we got a lot of comments from viewers who didn't understand why you didn't tell heavenly about Damon Jr's arrest. So, Damon, And it's like, well, I'm just sort of a quiet guy. So I don't feel like I have to address everything. So you all do not know the whole story. So don't assume it because you see it on TV. So he basically says, I handled it the best way I knew how to. And then Andy's like, you have just like,

I'm just a quiet guy. I don't feel like I have to address everything. You don't feel like you have to tell your wife that your son is in jail? Hello? Or like arrested? What the hell? And so they talk about the son's mental health.

and they ask, Andy asked how he's doing. And he says, it's been really difficult, but when something happens to someone that you love, to when something horrible happens to somebody you love and you don't understand what it is, you know, even when you're a doctor and you've read about all these things over and over again, and he hasn't, he's not a psychiatrist, but he's read all the books. And he still didn't know what was going on. And so he's going to stand up for him no matter what. So he's not answering, basically.

And Scott asks if he's still not seeing him, and Damien still hasn't seen him. And then do you feel like personal issues get weaponized a lot here? And he's like, yeah, and I'll be honest, you know, this show surprised the crap out of me. You know, when people make up lies about me or when they say that I'm doing things that I'm not doing, and then backstage, Simone's like, Then tell your wife not to do that with us. Tell your wife. She's like screaming at the TV. That's my man.

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