Watch What Crappens - #3303 Summer House S10E10 Part Two: Teed Off

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

This is part 2 of 2Summer House goes golfing. Ben’s upset that Amanda made a scandalous comment to his totally new and not at all semi long term girlfriend and Carl is upset that Kyle didn’t call ...him about his brother’s death anniversary. So prepare yourself for some man feelings, cuz that’s what we got! To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to watchwell crap and the podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you miss part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. And so Mia's like, you know, I have all this love to give and I don't have my mom to give it to. And Lindsay says, well, I don't think you know this about me, but I don't talk to my mom. And she says, and now that she has a baby girl, that's very healing for her.
Starting point is 00:00:49 But, you know, it'll happen when it happens, basically. She's like, yeah, having a baby is very healing for me. And if it's not healing, at least it's a good distraction. So there's that. I'm like, I love that Lindsay Hubbard logic. So now we go back to North Carolina and Sierra meets with her mom, Sheila. They go to a coffee shop. And Sheila is also like very low key.
Starting point is 00:01:14 You know, like we see where Sierra gets it from. So they're talking about the summer and buying. this house, et cetera, and Sierra's just like looking forward to, she just wants to have, like she doesn't see herself living in New York City long term. She ultimately would like to raise a family, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:31 in the countryside so she can have a couple of cats and a couple of dogs and a goat and a horse and a cow and a pig. I was like, and a lot of bills I'd like to add. And we learned that her mom was like, it's very country and had like multiple pigs growing up and all that, which is like really sweet and cute.
Starting point is 00:01:49 adorable. So then we find out. She's like, you know, Sierra, I haven't discussed with your dad anything about who really owns the house, but he's going to find out. And she's like, well, he's going to be pissed because I did it behind everyone's back, which, what? I was like, what, what is this? So she was like, well, I mean, it wasn't behind his back. You just, you know, it was something that you wanted and you found a way to buy it. So she tells the producer, yeah, my dad will know that I bought it because he's going to watch a show. I didn't tell him. And she says, you know, I, she tells us the story from last week that she knows her
Starting point is 00:02:26 grandparents' house is home because our parents were always moving around so much. And so it was really important. And she's like, you know, and I just wanted to get the house fair and square. So I didn't want to jump through family special hoops. So I just had to find a real estate agent, get an attorney, have my accountant make a separate LLC, have my accountant make a trust and then make up a name for the trust and then buy the house under the trust and then send my realtor to court, my dad and his family. And then they rejected my offer.
Starting point is 00:02:48 so I put in another offer and then I got the house. So it was easy. Very, very simple. I love this for her. I love this twist. This is like very soap opera. It's like,
Starting point is 00:02:58 wait a second, we just found out the person who bought the house is Sierra. They're going to have a great moment when that all gets revealed over there. But basically,
Starting point is 00:03:07 the way I read it between the lines is she doesn't want any drama from her family in the sense of like, like, she just wants to own it and I think she knows
Starting point is 00:03:14 that if she goes to her family, it'll be like, well, Uncle Richard owns this part or well, you've got to get like aunt Bernice to say this or whatever and like she's like I don't want any strings attached
Starting point is 00:03:24 that will come with family I don't want any guilt trips about this and that or whatever or like well I let you have a discount on this house and this is how you pay me back she's just like I'm buying it and I love that I love that she did that and you know I'm sure her I'm sure her dad would be really pissed but you know what
Starting point is 00:03:40 this is good revenge because he he's done a lot of shitty things to her so get that house Sierra yeah and so her mom She's crying, talking about it, and how important the house is to her. I'd like to have something to pass on to her kids and generational wealth and stuff like that. And so her mom tells her she loves her. And she's like, and they have a nice, you know, it's nice.
Starting point is 00:04:03 So then it's Friday, August 15th. And it's totally normal because it's 405 p.m., which is weird. It's not 406 or 404. It's like 405. So it's a good omen. It's a good omen that something is happening on one of the, one of the significant hashes on a clock, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah. I was like, because part of me it was like, they're not shooting the scene at 4-04, are they? Because that'd be a little weird. Like, this is a 405 scene. So Jesse Bailey, Dera and KJ are in one car and West is driving the car? And they're like, oh my God, is Dara's first
Starting point is 00:04:37 first weekend in the house? My God. It's like, oh my God, everyone, we have to have a rage-filled weekend. Because I'm Dara. I love rage. And I mean, I don't mean in an angry way, though. I just mean fun-filled. She really does talk like a sitcom character. I'm kind of like fascinated by her like TGIF style banter.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And so Bailey, West is back too. He had a quick trip to Italy. And Bailey is like, so how was Italy? He's like, um, it was sick. Like it's like all my boys from home and like we just like ripped it, you know? And by the way, this is a guy who's so desperate for fame that he flew out on Monday and was like, no, I absolutely cannot miss a weekend of shooting Summer House, even though I'm in basically the most beautiful part of the kind of like, I'm in Italy, you know, beautiful ceremony and everything. I don't know, like to me,
Starting point is 00:05:29 it's crazy that he was already back by, by Friday. But then as I'm saying this, I'm realizing the flight from Italy to New York is much shorter than from Italy to L.A. And I'm so used to going like that, like people who go to, you know, this is like, honestly one of the stupidest points I could have ever make on this podcast. I'm like, I'm just like trying to find a, way to shame West about like, why would you leave? Wow, you left Italy to come shoot the show. You're obligated to shoot. Wow, you're a fame whore. This is not my strongest work. He'll give you something. Don't worry. It's West. He'll give you plenty. I was so ready to go too. I was so ready to go on this point. And as I said it, I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:07 this is falling apart on me. I'm so mad at his travel plans. Who flies Monday through Friday? Who makes sure they're back for their job When they can be in Italy So he's saying They're like so how was it? He's like well flying's kind of a bitch right now But like my boys were fly Like we were fly like we'd like
Starting point is 00:06:30 Had it was like my boys My boys And Jesse goes well did you cry And he goes well I mean I did go to the Hell desk help lady Whatever and I asked her for help And they're like at the wedding West
Starting point is 00:06:44 We're not talking about the airport. So the other car, it's Mia, Sierra and Carl, and Ben is driving that one. And they're, like, so excited. And Mia's like, oh, my God, I'm so excited about this weekend. This is Friday. We're going to sit by the pool. It's going to be fucking amazing. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:07:01 She's like, I had cold brew. Sorry. Cold brew. Been there. Been there. I'm like, yeah. Not only have I been there. I am currently there.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Did you not just hear me try to wrestle up pitchforks. for West coming back from Italy. So then Mia is like, oh, cool, bro. So, Sierra says, by the way, Mia and I went to Lindsay's birthday lunch,
Starting point is 00:07:26 and I asked her about the text that she sent you. And so we see this flashback to Lindsay having a birthday lunch. And she was saying, you know, Carl's gift was like really thoughtful. And like he like got Gemma like a book about like being in New York City and it was like really nice. And so like I sent him to,
Starting point is 00:07:41 you know, I thought it deserved like a thank you text, you know? And so Carl was like, y'all back to present. Carl's like, yeah, I saw Lindsay Hopper pop up on the phone. I was like, oh my God. I need to make my notification softer. That really hurt my leg. I vibrated really, really hard. It was really hard. That was like a hard optic. It was a lot to take awe. And like, I haven't had a text from her in like almost two years. So progress.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yeah. Could you be friends with her again? He's like, oh, I don't want to say never, but, you know, I don't know. But like she invited me to her housewarming. So that was good. But, Like, I don't know. Like she, she, last week, you know, she did invite me because last week Mark's five years anniversary that my brother's been gone. And, you know, it's emotional. And I appreciate you reaching out me out. And she's like, oh, my God, no problem. And he says that Jesse messaged him, which was cool.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Because Jesse wasn't even there that summer. And you can only feel for the death of someone's brother if they knew you exactly when it happened or something. He's like, but he checked in. And not that I was asking for anything special from anybody, but it is nice to hear. hear from your friends. And then in Westcar, Jesse's like, yesterday I met with Carl and Ben and Carl's like kind of going through it, you know, because it was
Starting point is 00:08:54 the anniversary of his brother's death passing and Kyle didn't text him, you know? He just, instead, he Instagrammed about Lindsay's birthday. So that's going to be a big one. That's going to be a big one. And so Carl's like, yeah, I mean, last week has definitely been rough. It's like, not to like hug the conversation. Oh, but like, well, okay, well,
Starting point is 00:09:14 On a letter note, I met Sabrina, we bonded. Oh, so when I said not to hog the conversation, that was my way of saying I'm not to hug the conversation. I'm aware of it. But that's okay. We could talk about Sabrina. That's cool, too. So Ben's like, well, I need to have a little check with Amanda at some point, you know, coming off the back at Lindsay's housewarming. Sabrina told me that everybody was talking.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And Amanda went up to her and said, you know, Ben's been great the whole time. Everybody in the house thinks that he's in love with me. but apart from that, that's fine. And I was like, hold on, what? You know, I don't understand where that comes from. Like, what do you get out of that? What do you get out of that? You know, it is kind of crazy that Amanda said that to, like, the girl that Ben is with.
Starting point is 00:09:57 That's like it is kind of like an undermining, bitchy thing to do. I don't know why I wasn't more upset about this, though. I think part of it is because this girl Sabrina came in super oversharing and like, I don't know, it's like, well, you want to hear an overshare? You're about to get one. But there's all, I just feel like, I feel like Ben is very protective about his image. And he's like really trying to make us feel like he's this like nice guy thing. And like if it's like he's not, if he's not in love with Amanda, like, it's like, I don't know, he should just be like, yeah, that's crazy that she would say that.
Starting point is 00:10:29 People are just like giving me shit about it, but it's not real. And just like move on. But he's, this is now going to be the second time he's going to get pissy about it. And it's like, bro, I'm sorry. Like you cannot do this whole thing of that like you're nervous and you're shy. and then you get this like steely anger towards the women now two times in a row I don't like it yeah and Ben saying so Ben's saying that Sabrina and Amanda had a very beautiful heart to heart at the party and we see a clip of this and the heart to heart is Amanda being like I'm fully aware
Starting point is 00:11:00 of what I'm going through and I love hearing other people's experiences too and he says that Sabrina was not pleased about the comment Amanda made and now she's upset and she's like Why are you saying that? And like, why is this guy, like, why is he saying he's in love with you and not me? Like, what, what are you doing? And he's now pissed off, basically. But, like, also, Sabrina, you're complicit as part of this thing of, like, having a secret romance while he goes onto a reality TV show and pretends to be single. And then, like, someone picks up on a, like, a single vibe that he's pretending.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And then you're, like, upset that he, like, gave off a single vibe when you're pretending part of this rused this whole time. So, like, I don't know. like, I mean, like on a human level, I get why Sabrina would be like, oh, well, fuck this. Like, that's a bitchy thing to say. Like, it is, like, what Amanda said is, is kind of bitchy. It's kind of like, it's a little, it's just rude to say that to the, to the girl that's dating a guy. But also, like, Sabrina and Ben are doing some stupid charade of him being single on the show when we know that they were together the whole time. So, like, I also am like, I kind of don't have sympathy for like, whoa, Sabrina's upset right now. Like, yeah, I mean, making comments. Like, like, Making joke comments to somebody is one thing, but saying like, yeah, everybody thinks he's in love with me is pretty, that's a pretty big thing to joke about. Because you know you're going to make another woman uncomfortable. Yeah, even with a joke. And Amanda does have that kind of catty side to her. So it's like, what was she doing?
Starting point is 00:12:31 You know, but Ben also does not need to spin out about it. Exactly. Exactly. And like Amanda, I think one of Amanda's, like, least. appealing qualities is that she does have like a very sarcastic and kind of like I don't want to say in this she just has a sarcastic side of her that I think can become very tiresome and I think this is probably like her doing that again and it's like you know it's just like it's going to get you in trouble sometimes and you're sarcastic like that but again I think Ben's issue is more annoying to me which is that he
Starting point is 00:13:04 I don't like how I don't like that way when he gets upset how we talk to Bailey and then how he talks to Amanda I don't like that at all yeah there's There's definitely like a creepside to him that I don't like either when he gets upset. I don't like it. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. It does seem like a pointed thing to come from Amanda. And especially when she was at that party and she said, what has been telling this girl?
Starting point is 00:13:30 Like, why is she asking us all these questions? Like, how does she know our whole lives after two seconds or whatever? So she kind of had her radar dinging about this girl anyway. So, yeah, that she made that comment while she was thinking. It's, I don't know. It's like, it's a catty thing. But, yeah, Ben spends out too much about it. Like, just tell the girl it was a joke at the house, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:53 But Ben's upset because he didn't tell her. Because Amanda might have been thinking, now that we're talking about it, Amanda might have been thinking, oh, well, he's telling her everything. So he probably told her about how he got mad at Bailey because Bailey made that comment about me wanting to fuck Ben. And so I'm going to make it, you know, this funny thing. That's actually very possible. You know, like maybe I don't want this girl to hate me if she ends up coming to the house or whatever. So she might have been trying to smooth that over.
Starting point is 00:14:18 But of course, Ben left out that part because he doesn't want to get in trouble with the girl. That's actually a great point. Now he's mad that he's being outed for keeping something from the girl. I think it's totally viable that Amanda assumed this girl already knew and she was trying to make light of what could possibly be an elephant in the room. But also, again, like Amanda does. have that super sarcastic side where these things don't always land very well. Yeah, totally. But either way, I think her infraction is like minor compared to it. Like, I just don't like, I think Ben's is worse to me than Amanda's in this situation.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Plus, we didn't even see the way what Amanda said. This is all just sort of what Ben is saying. So now Ben is going to talk to her. And he's like, I don't know. It just seems so fucking unnecessary that she's gone down. It just upsets me a lot. I'm like, oh, relax, ma'am. Yeah. And he says, I care about Sabrina. And I'm excited. She's coming. And she's priority number one. And I'm going to make sure that she knows that by getting on Amanda. Also, you know what I don't like? I don't like guys like this who when, if we were to take his story at face value, his story is that they connected.
Starting point is 00:15:26 They had the best time together. And then she professed feelings to him probably said, I love you before he was ready to say it back. And then he kind of like left her and ghosted her. That's his story with her. And I hate when people like he he like left her he left her he left her on red essentially quote unquote and then he decides finally a few months later oh guess what I haven't found a better option yet. So I'm going to go back to her and I like her a lot and like now don't you all fuck this up for me because she matters the most to me. I'm like does she really matter the most to you because you weren't with her for the past three months after she was like sort of bore her heart for you.
Starting point is 00:16:02 So like I kind of don't like like oh, we have. to stop everything because he cares so much about her because he just decided that like three days ago. Yeah. And he's kind of a typical summer house guy. And then he's like, okay, I'm going to dump this girl so I can be single for the show. But now I'm not getting any ass on the show. And I still want a romantic storyline or I'm not going to have anything going on. So she's going to be my romantic storyline. And now I'm going to bring her in and then now get mad. And now act like I've been caping for her the whole time. He's, I don't know. I don't like him. I don't like him. You know, he's not hateable.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Like, I don't hate him. He's not like a West. You know, people like West and Jesse just, my hackles raise with those guys. And he's not really giving me that, but he's giving me, there's a definite, ugh. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:52 So everyone arrives at the house and they're like arriving in. Mia announces that she's going to make some guacamole. Wow, it's a changing of the guard. And then, yeah, they really are spinning off this show. They're like, okay. We need someone in here, a new cast member who can make guacamole. Who's it going to be? Who's it going to be?
Starting point is 00:17:10 But that was always my role. You're not on the show anymore, Amanda. Okay? It's over for you. And then they're just sort of like arriving and et cetera. And so can we see a flashback by the way to the car where KJ is telling Wes?
Starting point is 00:17:29 He's like, bro, I saw your slideshow and like, how about that absolute dump truck of yours? And we see that Wes has a big old butt, and he's showing it off in his pictures on Instagram. That is definitely his best quality. Is that butt? So then West goes to take a shaker to make margs, and there is blue cheese that they've left in there at his rotted. And they're like, don't even wash it. Just throw it away.
Starting point is 00:17:56 No, wash it. He's next thing. He goes, they're like, what's in there? He goes, it couldn't be worse. there's blue cheese in there. Like, oh, throw it away. So now Amanda and Kyle come and they're, you know, they all decide they're going to go to the driving range and mini golf.
Starting point is 00:18:18 So they're going to do that later. And then Carl's like, oh, it's five o'clock. Bailey says, you have two watches. You better know what type it is. Because he has a watch on each wrist. Why does he have a watch on each wrist? What is that? Is that a running thing?
Starting point is 00:18:33 it's yeah that way when you're running and your arms in front of you maybe you can always see the time it's just my little hack I get double the rings I get double the activity rings that way yeah like so uh
Starting point is 00:18:46 Dara since it's your first weekend in the house officially do you have anything that you would like to do tonight I would love all of us to hold hands and share our deepest darkest secrets laugh track or instead we can go out and get drunk
Starting point is 00:19:01 Ha! It's like, okay. So now outside Jesse and Ben are talking, and Jesse's like, so how about that ride in? I decided, I'm just going to be myself. And Ben's like, yeah, well, you know, it was taken a bit out of me there. But, and Jesse's like, well, are you going to talk to Kyle, Carl? You're going to talk to Carl?
Starting point is 00:19:22 He's like, well, I mean, I would like to at some point. Very upset. I'm so upset that I shot a scene about it yesterday and then another one in the car on the way here. And I'm going to shoot two more scenes about it today. very, very upset. Yeah, I think you've been a great friend to Kyle, and I think you deserve that same thing back. It's like, yeah, it's just like, it's weird for me to, like,
Starting point is 00:19:40 to go to him and, like, tell him about the anniversary that, like, my brother died, like, a real, a real friend already knows that, you know, ho. It's like, and Ben's like, yeah, I shouldn't have to mention this. Like, yeah, no, I shouldn't. It's like, it's like, it's insane. It's like, it's literally insane that I even have to broach it. Like, can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:19:56 It's like, it's like, it's like looking at a barrel of pal and being like, we have to put a brooch on that. Like it's just in Saturday. Hold on. Listen, I'm sorry. I know this is going to come across Heartless, but I can't, I can't not say something. When is this, when did this become a thing? I have not called somebody on the anniversary of a family member's death every single year for five years ever. I've never done it. Have you? No. I mean, there have definitely been times where I will look at the calendar and I'll see it. I'll be like, I'll shoot someone maybe a text message. I'll be like, hey, I know this may be a hard time for you. But like generally speaking, like I sort of do it that first, maybe that maybe I might do it the first anniversary if I remember. If someone's like really close, I'll try to.
Starting point is 00:20:41 If it's like Christmas or something, I know, oh my God, this is the first year without your husband. I hope you're okay. You know, like I'll check in. It's not like I'm a total monster. Right. We check in. I just can't imagine expecting somebody to be like, oh, Ronnie, this is when you're, you know, best friend passed, you know, or this is when someone close to you passed away. going to text you every single year about it on that. So it's weird. You know, I don't get it and I don't
Starting point is 00:21:05 get, I can't imagine expecting that of somebody. I think that probably what happens is because Jesse texts and then because Mia texts, it's therefore more obvious that Kyle did not text. And so, but for them to text, he must have said something to them because how else would they know? So he must have said something like, my brother's death is coming up on this day or something. So they're like, oh my God, Carl obviously is still really feeling this thing. And so I'm going to text him on this day because he just told me about it two days ago. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And I think that like, you know, I understand why Carl is feeling some sort of way by the fact that not only did Kyle not text, but he posted a happy birthday to basically Carl's arch enemy on the show now. And that really hurts. But there is like a convention of announcing people's birthday is like happy birthday to. every year on someone's birthday and unfortunately there just is not the same convention for like checking in you get reminders and Facebooks and stuff like that you don't get like Carl's brother
Starting point is 00:22:09 passed away reminder on Facebook you know right it's not like an ICAL thing that pops up and it's it's not even that because even if even if I remembered and it was year five I don't know that I would be like five years later I'm gonna I don't know
Starting point is 00:22:25 I I think it's Carl being upset over the lover boy thing and he didn't get the answers he wanted and he was he's still resenting Kyle over the lover boy thing and now he's going to make this a thing to come after Kyle on TV because he knows Kyle's not getting you know he knows he's getting the shit already with Amanda because Kyle's acting like an asshole with Amanda and then he tried the lover boy the soft bar investing thing and that didn't go for him and so now he's going to come for this I mean honestly I find it gross that Carl is going to use his brother's death to come at a friend on TV this way. I think it's icky. I don't, Carl, I don't care what anybody thinks. I don't like hate Carl, but I just this whole new like Carl, everybody's like, oh, my God, Carl's so sweet. Carl is not sweet. Carl's a manipulative fucking person.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And I don't, this just rub me the wrong way. I don't like it. I've always felt, yeah, we've always felt that Carl is a manipulator. I do think that really he's just upset about the investing thing. And then, of course, it's now become a storyline. So you have people poking and prod and Carl And they're like, aren't you upset? So he's sort of like at a base level
Starting point is 00:23:30 Frustrated with Kyle and then this thing comes along And then like people some people text him but not Kyle And he's already feeling a certain way about Kyle So now it's like he feels that way even more Whereas if you'd been in good standing with Kyle He'd be like oh yeah well you know he'd give Kyle The benefit of the doubt But now he's not in a place where he wants to give Kyle
Starting point is 00:23:45 The benefit of the doubt So like I like I get It's just like another thing on top of the Carl's not a good friend of me thing But I also but I also feel like it's just, I don't know, I do feel like Kyle, let's also not forget, was Kyle an officiant in Carl and Lindsay's wedding? Was he supposed to be? Was he supposed to be best man? Was he supposed to be in the, oh, he was the flower girl in the wedding? So let's not also forget that like all these little things that happen amongst people in life, they kind of come back. You know,
Starting point is 00:24:19 it's like the moment you make Kyle the flower girl, you've kind of sent it, you've sent a message out there that like, hey, I don't know if I value you as much as you value me, right? And not to put outsize importance on the flower girl thing, but it's like one of those little things in a friendship. And it's just like, I just feel like Kyle has actually extended himself quite a bit to Carl. He has also undermined Carl. Kyle is not perfect.
Starting point is 00:24:47 But I feel like, I don't know. I kind of had that feeling too. Like the nice guy part of me was like, well, you still should check in on your best friend, you know, on the anniversary of a death in his life. But then there's a part of me that's like, but Carl has to start like moving forward with his life too. I think if on, I think for me, if Carl had come to Kyle and said, you know, Kyle, my brother, you know, passed away five years ago. This was the anniversary. I didn't even hear a text from you. That's so weird.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Like, are you, are you okay? Are you mad? Like, what's going on? Because normally you would text me. Maybe I would think, okay, maybe that's a little oversensitive. But whatever. I wouldn't really, it wouldn't ding me, you know what I mean? Because that's normal human emotion. But the fact that he went to shoot a scene with the guys about it, to talk about it, to like rally the guys there.
Starting point is 00:25:32 And then he did it again with the girls in the car, you know, with like a mixed, it doesn't matter guys or girls. But I'm just saying like he had two full scenes to like get this going with everybody in the house of like, oh my God, Kyle's such an insensitive prick. Like how can you not call someone when their brother dies? That's where I'm like, this guy's a manipulator. And he's decided he's going to come for Kyle now. and this is how he's going to use his brother's death to do it instead of having the balls to stand on the lover boy thing. I just think it's really gross, you know, and I'm not, that's obviously not saying Kyle's perfect. This whole season I've been screaming like, leave him, Amanda, for fuck's sake. Like I've not been team Kyle on this, on anything.
Starting point is 00:26:08 But on this, I think Carl's being a typical manipulating asshole. I don't think this is cool. This is a bad move. And I also remember when Carl was like upset at Kyle when he was working at lover boy and he felt like he was being used and abused at Leverboy. And then it turns out Kyle was like, like, no, I'm down to expand your role and give you something else. Write me a business proposal and Carl just never did it.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And like there's always, I don't know, I think that Carl kind of sort of takes a lot from Kyle and he still expects more. And I feel like Kyle, he's been largely patient except for when he outed Carl being high on Coke during a meeting at Leverboy. But like, by and large, I think Kyle has actually given a lot to Carl. And I think he's just, I think he's actually being pretty chill by not being like, I've given you so fucking much. You would be nowhere without me right now, you know. So I'm always like, you know, I just, I feel like Carl really presents things in one way.
Starting point is 00:27:14 But there's, there's a larger story to be told. He presents things always as a victim instead of somebody who's been helped to a tremendous, this degree by somebody who did not owe you that help, you know? Yeah. He gave me work when nobody would give you. He was paying your ass when you were showing up there, blitzed out of your mind, coaked up, showing up without your laptop,
Starting point is 00:27:33 doing all that. He was keeping you going and you're still like, Kyle didn't give me that like a tiny investment, by the way, $15,000. His rent is 10 grand a month. So it's not like he's just coming at him in these tiny little ways that are just, I just I wouldn't be friends with someone like that That's just a manipulator and a victim
Starting point is 00:27:54 A constant fucking victim this guy Yeah it's it is There definitely is that vibe that's going on there So um so he's upset either way And Kyle's and then And then West meanwhile is like Hey um so Kyle Have you talked to Carl today?
Starting point is 00:28:13 I was like no I mentioned that like Carl Carl's probably gonna want to talk to you And he's like um do you know why It's like, uh, the investor stuff or something like that. It's like, no, um, you didn't text him on his brother's passing day, which was the day before Lindsay's birthday. It's like, oh. And I think you heard him a little bit, but, um, I think because you posted a happy
Starting point is 00:28:35 birthday to Lindsay, like, I think, um, that hurt his feelings a little bit. So, um, what's your wife up to right now, by the way? Yeah, I was going to say, so now you have West coming to add to it to also villainize Kyle. When that clip was released of when West was going into the bathroom to check on Amanda, you've seen this right a couple weeks ago. People were
Starting point is 00:28:59 re-releasing, spreading this clip all around because he goes into the bathroom and he comes out taking a sock out because apparently he was trying to cover his mic with a sock or something so they couldn't hear him and in the bathroom he was like, it's okay, it's okay, baby. To Amanda,
Starting point is 00:29:15 which I didn't hear him saying it's okay, baby to Amanda. So I didn't hear that. Basically, he's possibly already hooking up with Amanda or at the very least leaning that way at this time. And so he's like, okay, I'll take Carl's thing and I'll use that against Kyle. The further paint Kyle is a monster during this whole thing. So, yeah, this whole episode was pissing me off. And I felt like such an asshole for even being pissed off because it's like a victim cloak type of thing.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Like you cannot, you cannot criticize somebody when it's about their brother dying. And part of me feels that way. But the other part of me is like, no, fuck that. This is bullshit. This is manipulative bullshit. And now it's West coming in on it, too. He's probably fucking Amanda's wife at the time. Well, the other thing is that like, what we've said about this investor situation many times and now can be applied to this is that like Kyle, I don't think that Kyle is under any obligation to do these things.
Starting point is 00:30:11 But if he did do them, that would be a lovely thing for him to do. But he is not, but he can also, I don't think it would be a demerit. if he doesn't do them. And Carl does treat it like a demerit. So like, would it be nice if Kyle did the lovely thing? Yes, he should do the lovely thing. We should all try to do the lovely thing. But I don't think that it should be in this,
Starting point is 00:30:32 in these cases, I think you, I don't know, I don't think that they should be held against them when he doesn't do it in these specific cases. Yeah, but this is, of course, a typical Kyle answer. He's like, oh, God, well, it's stressing. I mean, I had a really important call. and I had to do laundry and I had to pack and I had to do all this shit and he's like
Starting point is 00:30:51 but don't see that don't come in with excuses bro he's like I'm not justifying it I'm just saying that you know I was really busy he's like I know but like if you're talking to him like don't bring up laundry you know like just you know say you fucking forgot
Starting point is 00:31:07 you know and you love him and you know he'll get over it if you just address it commercials here comes one right now Back outside, Carl's like, yeah, like the first thing he's grabbing and if this house gets set on fire is the DJ equipment. Like, none of our hands to get us out of the house. Like, he's only going to save that DJ equipment. Like, what do you have to, what do you have left when all this gets taken away?
Starting point is 00:31:33 Like, you have us. Not your fucking DJ or your speaker. That could all disappear. Like, what are you doing? Relax, Carl, you're the runner of the group. You're going to be the first one to run out of the house. So why are you waiting for Kyle to take your hand? Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:45 He's going to all save his He's going to say this DJ Oakwoodman. I mean, is he right? Yes. But do we think that everyone in this house is going to be non-self-interested in that moment? I guarantee they're all going to be just darting out and leaving everyone else behind. This show of 10 years on this show, we have lists and lists of shit people have done to support Carl. We don't have the same thing from Carl.
Starting point is 00:32:12 You know what I mean? We don't have that same thing for Kyle. So for Carl to be, I mean, he was in his wedding, you know. Carl ordered food for the house. There was that one season where Carl was in charge of postmates. So that was exciting. And that was a huge episode where Carl's like, oh my God, I'm ordering food for people. It was like, whoa, fire where it's like the one time the husband takes the trash out without being asked and he wants a fucking metal, you know?
Starting point is 00:32:38 Yeah. We all know, by the way, that at this house catches on fire, the only one who will be left behind is jewels. from season four because they already said that that's what they would do. Amanda said that. Amanda said that. Who would you leave in a burning house? And Amanda's like, Jules.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And then Carl also lectured Jules later. So, you know, Carl was a total asshole of Jules as well. So yeah, I don't know. I just, this stuff's all bugging me.
Starting point is 00:33:10 But apparently. So West is like, so he gives him advice. So then Carl goes off on Kyle and Kyle's like, well, thanks for giving me a heads up West. So then Carl goes on and he's like, yeah, because there are times I try to have these conversations, but he doesn't listen. And like, I know how mad it feels now. I'm like, what friends want to be with someone that doesn't listen to them and just kind
Starting point is 00:33:31 of has a general sense of I do whatever the fuck I want? Literally every person you've talked to told you not to open soft bar. Carl, you're engaged to that person. So you're like, what sort of person wants to be around that? You were literally fucking that person. You were doing that, okay? You're on a reality TV show where everyone does this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And by the way, there's a trail of women in your wake, Carl, who have the same question about you. You know, like, I do whatever the fuck I want. Like, let's not forget that as well. Yeah, but he sweeps all of that into this, like, but, you know, I was addicted. And it's like, okay, but it doesn't, like, erase, it doesn't erase your entire history. You know what I mean? It gives a reason, but not an excuse. And it just makes me crazy that he's so fucking holier than now about everything.
Starting point is 00:34:21 It's like, you're Carl. Do you not remember who Carl is? So August 15th, why? Why do I say that? I don't care. It's because the show did. Okay. 7 o'clock?
Starting point is 00:34:33 Nope. 6.59, guys. Ah, ran out of bad luck. We ran out of it. So everybody's getting ready to go golf and they're talking about each other's golfing outfit. And Bailey's like, I mean, my boobs are up. because like I love having my boobs out, but Carl notices my boobs are out.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I'm not going to be sad about it. Like, what's it called? A putter. Whoops. Is that flirting? Is that flirting? Girl, he's not going to notice those boobs unless you add some stripes to them. Get those tan lines going.
Starting point is 00:35:02 And then, you know, everyone's like, oh, my guy, look cute. They're talking about their shoes and Sierra has, like, you know, like wedges on. They're like, how are you going to golf in that? She's like, I can golf in anything. I'm a girl. So they all are hopping in their cars. They go this miniature golf place. And they're grabbing their clubs.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And Dara feels very empowered. She's like, I got a club. I'm empowered. And Sierra's hitting balls, doing surprisingly well. And they're all, like, impressed that she is able to get some significant drives with her. Jess is like, West has never hit the ball that far in the entire, like even half that far. So then we see West minigolfing and can't do it for shit. basically terrible.
Starting point is 00:35:46 So they just golf. It's a lot of fun in games and stuff. And then Bailey has her flirt moment with Carl where she's like, are my legs far enough apart? That's what she said. He's like, there you go. Yeah. Lean down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Spread your legs. Yeah. Look at the hole. Yeah. Okay. You did it. You did it. It's like, wow, you're such a good golf teacher.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Was that flirting? And then food arrives and everything. And they're all sort of like. They all like flock to the food around the table like they haven't eaten in five days. And while they're there, Carl, they're just bantering. And then Carl's like, hey, cookie. Yeah. Look, can we go for a chat for a sec?
Starting point is 00:36:32 Okay, yeah, let's go over here. We're going to have a little chat. Okay, let's go back to the batting cages. Remember, remember this? Remember when I had a fight when it was acting hard against Duke? We have a flashback to like many years ago. where Luke and Carl have one of their fights and where it's basically Luke saying like
Starting point is 00:36:47 that's not fair you can't see that okay you know what you know what I'll go after and then we'll talk okay and then Carl throws something down on the ground trying to act like he's actually going to hold me back hold me back and kill him hold me to kill him um so then
Starting point is 00:37:04 Kyle's like well you know okay well west did give me a little heads up about this and I want to talk to you so like I'm glad you pulled me over but like first and foremost I want to apologize. I feel like the last several years, I've been with you on your brother's anniversary. And like, I mean, there's no excuse for it.
Starting point is 00:37:20 But I was just, I spaced and I'm sorry. You know, it's the story of my summer. You know, I feel like I've been letting you down all summer. So I thought that was. That was good. And it was a reminder that I was, not only did I text you the last few years. I was with you the last few's above and beyond kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:36 It's, yeah, I mean, it definitely like, let me down. And I've just been like trying to figure out like how to talk to you. Cause like, You know, I'm just like a little disappointed and being by these batting cages is like really triggering because like Luke is so scary. And I was just like, I know, I was hoping to hear from my best friend. And I mean, like, you were the guy that I ran to that day and you were the person. I told.
Starting point is 00:37:54 And I just feel like our friendship was disconnected. And I just like, I don't even know what to say. Oh. And he's like, yeah, I'm sorry. He goes, yeah, because I'm disappointed and sad. And like, you know, I pulled up Instagram Monday morning and I saw like the Lindsay thing. I was just like, damn. He's saying how does somebody on their birthday?
Starting point is 00:38:10 It's crazy. He's like, well, I know Lindsay is like the day. type of person though like if you don't make an effort she'll remember that as much as if you do you know but like which i think is funny he's like lindsay's terrifying of course i remembered her birthday you're kidding what do i have a death wish yes i said happy birthday to lindsay he's like uh you know if you feel like our friend i let our friendship slip you know i also feel sometimes like you're not inviting me to things he's like i mean i can't even think of a time when you invited me to something and i say no. I mean, like, you're active in doing cool shit. You never invite me anywhere. So
Starting point is 00:38:42 I feel like this was Kyle's opportunity to just say, sorry, bro. I hope you to do better. But Carl won't let him. But no, but rather than Kyle saying like, I just think that Kyle's just like, uh-huh, totally, instead of being like, you don't invite me to things. Because do you really want to do the things that Carl's doing? Do you really want to be doing those things? No, but Carl's like, you know, where's my best friend? And I think Kyle's like, yeah. Kyle, because I think it's subtly, Carl's trying to present this like, you're my best friend. And Kyle's like, we haven't been best friends in years. What the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:39:16 You don't even call me to hang out anymore. What are you doing? I think that's kind of the subtext here. It's like, when have you ever invited me out? Like, how are you calling me your best friend and gilting me like your best friend didn't call you? Like, what are you talking about, Carl? Mm-hmm. It's like, I literally feel like I can't catch a break this summer.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Like, I can't be the CEO. I need to be for the lover boy. can't be the husband that Amanda needs can't be the friend that Carl needs can't be the DJ that Moni Moni needs by Billy Idol it's just something really striking out and he's like well I appreciate what you're saying man
Starting point is 00:39:48 he's like well if I done something to pit you off you know I just let me know like this like tell me like this and he goes well you know I'm struggling to say like what I want to say well look if words come to you later then you can it doesn't matter how you look just pull me aside and we can talk later if you need to talk later he's like okay
Starting point is 00:40:05 well you know sometimes I like temper how I feel because I don't want to hurt you or I don't want to like I don't know come across like an asshole. All right. Well, I want you to feel comfortable talking about things because you know me. I'm Kyle Cook. I take criticism really, really, really well. And I'm just like, I'm not going to chew you up and I'll be totally chill. And most likely I'll be sober when I hear it.
Starting point is 00:40:24 So I'll have a very like level head of response. So it's all good, bro. And then he tells us, I need to have better conversations about, I need to get better about having conversations with Kyle Cook because like, I shut down and like literally. I'm just, Carl. I'm just like terrified little Carl who can't have conversations. You just did it. You just told him exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:40:45 And the producer's like, well, what did you want to say that you didn't? And he's like, I mean, I think I wanted to say, fuck you. I mean, what else do you have in your life that is like anywhere close to someone like me that shows up for you and cares for you? Like, because if you do this to me, did him like texting me on Sunday, make or break my day? No, but it's just like makes me nervous for Kyle. like I'm not your friend like who do you got like though he's saying if I'm not your friend like who else do you have like I'm all Kyle has right I'm like I don't think that's true actually but that's fine so then Amanda is just like hanging around the table she's like oh my god have you guys been
Starting point is 00:41:25 sitting here for a while and she her like eyes are bulging that's her big thing is like bulging her eyes to be like wow and Ben is like actually I want to go for a chat just me me and you, she goes, for real? He's like, yeah, for real. She's like, um, okay, eyes bulge. So they go to a different area to talk and, uh, basically Ben's like, so last week at Lindsay's, you know, that was the first time I'd taken Sabrina out to meet everyone. And just at the end, I just got a bit thrown off with the everybody thinks that he's in love with me. And I just kind of like threw her off. And I just thought like, I didn't know why you kind of said that to the person who I love so much ever since this past Thursday.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And it just, like, rocked her because she was wondering why, and I just don't know if you were joking. I was like, um, well, if I said something that made her upset, like it wasn't intended that way,
Starting point is 00:42:18 I was just like literally singing your praises to her. He goes, well, she felt like it was a big dig at the end, you know? She said, why is that coming up? And I came out here to,
Starting point is 00:42:26 uh, with you and Carl and we're all good friends. And I just thought it was a bit shit to kind of say it in that way. And she's like, um, yeah, like, Dun, dun.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I'm wearing a fucking west. Like, what? What are you talking about? Wow, what an episode. So there you go, everybody. Summerhausen. We'll find out next week how that confrontation goes.
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