Watch What Crappens - #3339 Summer House S10E13 Part One: Hit Me Hard and Soft
Episode Date: April 29, 2026This is part one of a two-part recapWest and Ciara are besties again on Summer House, and Amanda is thrilled! Meanwhile, Lindsay encounters Carl’s mom, and it’s about as warm as an Arctic shelf. T...o watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about.
I'm Ben Mandelker, joining me today on a big old cringy summer house recap is the one and only the glorious, the never mean Ronnie Caram.
All right, now you're just lying.
It's Ronnie Karam, everyone.
Hi, Ronnie.
How's it going?
Hello.
How are you, honey?
me. I'm very excited
because not only do we get to recap
Summer House in about a few
minutes, but we
have a big, huge
announcement. This
June, the first week of June, in New York
City, Ronnie and I are
doing a cabaret.
It's official. Why let
the housewives have all the fun? We're going to do
a cabaret also, and not only
is it, it's not just any cabaret.
We are doing a cabaret, courtesy,
of Ben Rimmelauer, who was the one
who put Countess Luann on the map for Cabaret.
So we're going to be doing that at Green Room 42.
This can be on June 3rd and June 5th.
Two shows.
And these are small rooms.
It's going to be intimate.
It's going to be fun.
We're calling it Forbidden Housewives,
a watch for Crappin's Cabaret.
And it's going to be so fun.
The tickets went on sale this morning.
There's a link on our Instagram.
And I'm a big dumb dumb.
I forgot to put it on our website.
But by the time this is published, the link will be on the website, everyone.
Don't you worry.
But we are going to have so much fun with it.
We're just going to be silly and stupid and sing songs and make fun of our favorite housewives and beyond.
Are you excited, Ronnie?
Yeah, I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited and I'm terrified.
I'm excited.
I'm terrified.
I'm excited for June 6th for sure because yikes.
I'm very, very scared.
But it's going to be a fun month.
We had a meeting yesterday and worked through songs.
stuff like that and it should be pretty fun.
You know, now we just have to do it.
I mean, we haven't written it yet.
So we're starting to write it right now.
So God bless us.
This is really like summer stock.
Okay, guys, here's a month.
Yeah.
Write a show, you know?
So it's gonna be fine.
I told Dom, I was like, oh man, I was like,
I have to memorize all these songs.
He's like, how many do you have to memorize?
I was like maybe four or five.
He's like, that's it?
I was like, that's a lot for me.
But I have to write him to you.
It's not just never come on.
You see, you can't tell anybody.
I can't tell anybody in my life either.
They have no pity for me.
They're like, who cares?
You do that.
You love to do that.
You're making up show tunes all day long.
I'm like, so what?
This is different.
There's going to be people there.
I'm not in the shower.
I know.
I think the making up the show tunes will be fine.
It's just remembering the words.
You know, you don't want to put all that effort into writing lyrics and then forget them or
mangle them.
So we'll see.
I mean, it's, it's going to be great no matter what.
We're going to have fun.
if we mess up, we're just going to crack up. I mean, look, watch what crapans. If there's anything
that has been synonymous with our brand, it's goofs. So, well, that's true. And you know,
the hardest thing in this, this business called show is failing. And we fail all the time.
And so I think that we've set, we've set ourselves up for success. We're fine with failing.
So there you go. That's all we need, Ben. If we happen to have an oversized, bedazzled songbook in
front of us with lyrics for all our songs, don't be mad at us.
We will aspire to be off script.
Yeah, we've already given each other permission to do that.
So, yeah.
The point is, it's going to be so fun, come party with us in New York City.
As far as a tour, we're still waiting on dates, but we are going to be going on tour soon as
well.
So check back for that.
But right now, this is it.
We're so excited.
So come see that.
Get tickets.
They're on sale now.
They're really only a couple hundred tickets.
So go get them.
Yeah.
Hopefully they won't last long.
Come on people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm fingers crossed that we can sell out because it is a, it's a small venue for us.
And I think it'll be like wonderful and cozy.
And we're just going to have the best time.
Yeah.
So join us.
Do it.
So today is Summerhouse.
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And today is Summerhouse.
Season 10, episode 13, ship happens.
This was an episode.
Wow, what an episode.
I felt bad for Carl that they didn't even put soft in the title.
I know.
It is sort of weird that they emphasize the boat ride.
It felt like so much this episode was that soft bar launch.
Everyone's talking about today, Lindsay and Carl's mom.
Like, that's all everyone can talk about because that was, obviously,
the most cringe-worthy moment of the episode.
I was so unthinkable.
I loved every second that don't give Sharon a fucking inch.
I loved it.
I was like, I was trying to anticipate.
I was like, Ron is going to have that exact reaction that you just had right there.
Ron will be so happy.
But I was like, I'm like, well, we'll get to it.
We'll get to it.
That's a tease for later in the episode.
Wow, the soft bar launch was a who's who of former castmates.
Not all of them even got mentioned in rule, but, you know, it was great.
It was great.
Oh, was there.
I didn't even notice him.
Yeah, he was there.
I'm not even saying that to be mean.
I really didn't notice.
Well, there was at one point where Lindsay's like, wow, it's like a reunion.
There's like Luke and Andrea and also like this person and that person.
And they'd mentioned like everyone except for emerald, which I thought was funny.
So any who, uh, we are, it's August 23rd, two days before Ronnie's birthday.
And it's 11 a.m.
This was when you were 49, Ronnie.
Oh gosh, those are the days.
You were in a different decade.
Those were the days.
Those were the days before I was feeling random bumps in my body and being like, what is that?
Maybe that's something.
Like I'm feeling my knee right now.
It's supposed to be bumpy, Ronnie.
It's supposed to be bumpy.
Yeah.
Life is bumps.
Life is bumps, especially on this show.
So everyone's in the kitchen.
They're like, boat day, boat day.
And they're going on a boat.
Okay.
So they're packing everything up for the boat.
We get a lot of that.
A lot of packing up for the boat ride.
And just wacky stuff.
Scott says bye to Mia.
He's already out of there.
He's been there five minutes and he's out.
Bye.
See you in six months.
Okay.
Gone.
Yeah.
And he leaves.
And then they're getting in the car.
And Ben says, good vibes only.
I mean, when I think of Ben, I think good vibes only all the time.
And in the car,
with me, Kyle and Jesse.
Jesse's like, I'm excited to get some sun today.
Gotta get that sun.
Don't let the sun go down on me, babe.
And I can't believe.
So West and Sierra, I mean, this is just me jumping to 13,000 conclusions,
but is there a world in which she acknowledges she still has lingering feelings?
Or is that not this chat?
Because this is, at the same time,
this is happening.
Sierra and West are having their big,
meeting about being best friends again, where West easily manipulates the situation and makes Sierra
think that, I don't know, they're in love again. I don't know. What's happening on this show?
Because now the whole cast is running around going, oh my God, you guys, West and Sierra made up.
Did you hear West and Sierra made up? Are they together again? Are we 13? How old are the people on
this show? I mean, Jesus Christ, I know I'm an old grumpy bitch. I know that I am. I admit it.
But am I that old?
Like, are people still running around?
Like, oh, my God, do you guys say, did you care?
I can imagine.
I mean, it's been such a thing.
Like, oh, my God, are they, like, friends?
They're also, these are very young people, too.
Don't forget.
They are young people.
Kyle's 43.
In age only.
That's true.
Come on.
They're going to, guys, are they going to kiss again?
What's going to happen?
And it's the whole fucking episode.
Every time they go somewhere, someone else's like, did you hear about West and Sierra?
Do you think they made it out?
If you have an issue with Kyle's age, take it up with a portrait in the attic at the summer house.
No kidding. God. Give me that Dorian Gray shit.
Kyle at the soft bar launch, I don't think he's ever looked better. I thought he looked so fucking good at softbar.
I was like his hair, he's got like a great head of hair. He just looks fantastic. It just looks better and better. I think I think as
he realizes the finish line is in sight for his marriage.
He somehow is actually drawing energy from that.
And it's like making him full of splendor.
Normally as a marriage crumbles,
some people tend to look more decrepit and age.
But he, I think, is drawing some sort of life force from it.
He's like the marathon runner who sees the finish line coming up.
Yeah, it's like an infinity stone charging up,
just seasoning him.
I don't know what that is.
Um,
Oh, is it how to do with the car?
It's a Marvel universe thing, but actually, now that I think about it, I don't think
that guy ever really got younger with Infinity Stones.
He just got more powerful.
He's still stated.
Um, I have had an Infinity Stone.
It's just like a little bit larger.
Kyle Richards, be quiet.
So.
Okay.
I have a limited edition of Infinity Stone.
No one else can get it.
Um, so like my Infinity Stone is given to me by Jamie Lee.
Curtis. So like, I don't know. But Kyle, I saw something this morning, I think courtesy of our dear friend, Bravo and Botox, was saying, they made a comment on one of the social media's, social Medea's, about how Wes went on to his podcast and was like, I just want like, I don't, I want people to blame. Don't be mad at Amanda. Be mad at me and like they should come for me and not like Amanda.
right like he said something like that
and so bravo and botox
wisely pointed out
that he says
don't be mad at amanda be mad at me
but then when there's been
all these multiple leaks
from summer house at this point not just that
first one
how west hasn't said anything while
Amanda's just taking it on the chin from the
you know the listening audience
over and over and over again and west
has just been sitting there silently
so Kyle chimed in and he
basically was like, yeah, this guy is all PR and he's totally ineffective.
Like Amanda, like it was like he didn't have Amanda's back once during the reunion.
He said nothing to support Amanda.
And I'm like, I forget why I brought this up right now.
It felt like it seemed like a right time to bring it up.
No, yeah, yeah.
I saw that too.
And I love that Kyle is, there was a lot of stuff actually that happened off the show that was fun.
There was that.
And then there was Lindsay going on watch what happens live with Bailey.
And, you know, she was wearing a horsehair necklace that was made by West's girlfriend, I guess.
Like the girl that he was dating at the same time as Amanda and was lying about.
So there was that.
And, yeah, you know, there's been a lot of fun stuff happening outside the show.
Yeah, a lot of real fun stuff.
And the quote from Watch What Happens Live that seems to have gone viral is Lindsay saying something along the lines of,
can you imagine using your husband as a decoy for your boyfriend,
something like that.
And everyone's like, oh, Lindsay Hubbard.
So, um,
and then that leads to all the Reddit threads that are like,
I told you,
I've liked Lindsay this whole time because, you know,
there's so many people are.
Yeah, but then people are also mad at Lindsay
because of how she treated Carl's mom.
So of course,
you don't need.
Oh,
were they mad at Lindsay?
I didn't read any of this.
Well,
I would say 75% of people are like,
wow,
like I forgot.
I was,
I was thinking that Lindsay was having
such a good season and she was so mean to Carl's mom.
So a lot of people are like, God, Jesus, Lindsay.
And then there's like 25% that are like, yeah, like, why would she be nice to
Lindsay's mom?
I'm to Carl's mom.
Like, she has every right to be frosty.
Yeah.
So we'll get into that one.
I'm sure we'll have a spirited debate.
I should say a spirited low stakes debate.
Yeah.
Because who cares?
Very low stakes.
Yeah, the steak is on the ground.
The dog is eating the steak.
Okay. Very, very low.
There's not even an actual steak.
It's just, it's a Vienna sausage. It's on the ground.
Yeah.
So, yeah, so back to Kyle.
I'm like, is there a world that she acknowledges she saw his feelings?
He was like, first things first. Let them try to have a friendship.
Yeah, but in a different world, they got back together at this coffee talk.
I'm just a helpless romantic.
And Ben goes, no, you're not.
What are you talking about?
It's like, just the least romantic person we've ever seen on television.
Kyle. I know. He's like, you're just helpless. You're just hopeless. So, Jesse's like,
what if we, what if they're just like hand in hand in the air, like welcoming us on the boat?
Ben's like, that would be the best thing ever, almost as good as Sabrina Bell getting ready for dinner
on time. So then they're shocked. And guess what?
I guess what confusing me. And I think it's confusing Sierra as well. Well, I think a lot is confusing
Sierra. Mostly West telling people he saw as a crush on her, holding her in these tight and
braces for 10 minutes at a time, sniffing her in as he's doing in this episode.
So there's a lot that's confusing here.
But the cast seems to think like, oh, they made up.
So now they're going to be boyfriend and girlfriend again.
Is that what everyone's thinking?
Because I thought they were just saying, let's be friends again.
But now it looks like they're getting back together.
I'm so confused by this show.
Can we just go back to normal terminology?
Because I feel like this is what happened when everybody was like, you can't say boyfriend
and girlfriend so fast.
Or you can't say like love.
You can't say the L word before a certain amount of time.
Everybody made these rules that made it so fucking difficult.
So now you're just like, but we're friends.
No, you're not.
You're not friends.
Stop telling me your friends.
Like if we need to come up with other alternative, you know, alternative, you know,
words for it, then come up with that.
But you're confusing me as an audience member.
I need clear labels on what's happening here.
Ronnie's like, what happened to the day I'm just saying,
I'm going steady with someone.
Well, truly.
You used to be like, well, we're going out.
Well, what does that mean?
If you said you're going out, like you're dating.
If you go out a couple of times with somebody and you're fucking them,
then it's not so weird to say I'm going out with them.
But now it's like, you can't commit to somebody.
You need to fuck them for at least six months.
And then decide if you're, I don't know, it's just all backwards.
I don't understand why we've made it so difficult.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll say, I love you to the checkout lady.
I don't care.
If I feel love in that moment, I'll say it to somebody.
I don't need all these rules.
It's a lot and as we all know, Summer House is the show that requires the highest degree of
intellectual analysis to figure out what's going on at any given moment
Well, it's time for a commercial. It's time for a crap and it's commercial
My impression was that West and Sierra were just trying to get back to a base level of like can we just be friends and hang out and
now everyone is everyone is trying to be like, but they really do love you.
each other, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada.
But then they're also spending
the time hugging and staring into each other
and, like, breathing each other in. Like,
I don't do that with my, like, I love you, but I don't
do that with you. It's weird.
I was going to say, why don't you breathe in
me more, Ronnie? Why do you breathe me in?
Jesus. What am I? Chup liver?
We've been friends for 20 years. He can't breathe me in once in a while.
Why don't we, when we hug,
why don't you ever take a long inhale through your nose?
I'm like, what's going on with that?
What am I, like, not good enough?
to be inhaled?
Waiting for exhale.
Am I unenheld?
Waiting to exhale.
How about waiting to inhale?
Okay?
What's the matter?
Okay, guys.
How about Stella got her smell back
and inhaled me?
Okay.
That's in the cabaret.
It's in the cabaret.
Putting it in the cabaret
waiting to inhale.
By Bethany Frankel.
Okay.
So,
um,
they go see West and Sierra and they,
they greet them like they just came back
from war.
Like,
oh my God,
it's Weston-Cier.
Are you guys gala?
Congratulations on your gold medal that you guys got.
They're like literally like hand in hand,
which by the way,
I'm convinced the producers were like,
they were predicting that they'd be standing their hand in a hand.
I'm sure the producer said,
when they come in,
can you put your hands together and raise them over your head?
I guarantee it.
That's like a men's warehouse guarantee, too.
It has that much authority behind it.
We want a celebratory scene.
It's episode 13.
Give us our hands in the air.
What did George Bush do when he was telling everybody he won Iraq, like after two days?
It's like, mission accomplished.
Yes, mission accomplished.
We need you to wear mission accomplished t-shirt.
That's what the scene needed.
Mission accomplished.
That would have been the perfect metaphor.
That's, you know what?
Christina, that's the episode art, please.
Mission accomplished.
Maybe not, maybe not.
That's 100% that.
So I love that you're ready to print everything we're saying today.
You know what?
That's it. That's the one.
Print it.
Print it.
I'll give you a cigar.
Um, print it, tuts.
Okay, so they were like,
oh my God, that's exactly what I was hoping they'd be doing.
Is like, did they hear us?
Like, this is the beast.
Oh, my God, it was so hippy.
So lots of hugs.
Everyone's celebrating.
And they're all happy because it's been
two years of tension between the two of them.
Okay.
And did you guys just get fucking married?
West was like, kind of.
Yeah, basically.
If we do just what I hope they'd be doing.
So yeah, they're all going crazy.
And now it's time to go on the boat.
Get on the boat.
Get on the boat.
So they're on the boat.
They were going to get on the boat.
And now they're on the boat.
And they're there and they're sitting around.
They're like chatting and whatever.
And they're just talking about like extra clothes and yada y'all.
They're sort of just like taking pictures and selfie.
The boat leaves.
And Mia asks,
Sierra how her conversation with West was.
And Sierra's like, good.
Like honestly good.
As weird as it is.
Like I do feel like he is my person.
Like we have this like really weird friendship and it's like hard to ignore that, you know.
I'm just going to pause and let the audience cringe for some reason that I'll find out why in a few months.
Okay.
Oh my God.
He's your person.
No.
Come on.
Just.
I'm rooting for you.
I'm rooting for you.
Why do you keep dropping the ball?
Why do you?
I mean, this is why don't, this is why don't watch sports.
It's my person.
Just fucking don't root for anybody
Yeah, this is
This is gonna mess her up
Now she'll never know who her person is
Like for real, this will really fuck her up
And that is so messed up of West
To do that to someone.
It really is.
That's like long-term psychological damage
For this stupid hobbit
Who should fall into the volcano.
So yeah, because you only get to say
That's my person once, right?
Or is that something that you
can reuse later you can have multiple people i think i don't think that saying that's my person is
like a monogamous thing i think like that's my person's like you can have multiple people that are
your people yeah oh i don't i don't know if i was with somebody and they were like oh you're my
person i would be i would think oh my god i'm i'm their person and then i met somebody else he's
like oh he said he said that i was their person i'd be like i would dump i would dump him
that person. Well, I guess it depends.
Like, if you're talking about like your significant, if you talk about your significant other,
then most likely there's only one. But there's a way to say that's my person in terms of like
best friend or a, like really close friend. I'm going to try it out. I'm going to go to the
grocery store later because I do have to go today. And I'm going to be like, hey, thank you so
much perfect cut of salmon. You're my person. And see how anybody reacts. Like if they're,
if they think it's, if they act like, whoa, are we in love? Then I'll, I'll, I'll test it out
today. I'll let you know how it, guys. Well, you know, I already, I know I've told the story many times
on, on, on this podcast about the time that I made a new friend and we went to brunch and she was like,
Ben, I love you. And I was like, oh my God. It's like, I love you too. And then the waiter came around and
she goes, thank you so much. I love you. I said, what the fuck? That's me though. Like, I have no
problem saying I love you. Well, well, you know what, Ronnie, you're my person. And I mean it.
Oh my God. Thank you so much.
Okay, so Sierra is like, yeah, that's my person.
And Mia's so proud of her.
And she's like, I know that's not easy.
And Sierra's like, yeah, bitch, that's not me.
You know, I just snip people out of my life.
Like, everyone knows, obviously, like, I'm not the most warm and fuzzy person.
But, I mean, I am warm, but, like, I might not be fuzzy.
But, like, I'm warm and, like, I don't know, like, making up isn't my thing.
Actually, I think you're very warm and fuzzy.
I think she is actually very warm.
Yeah, I think she is very, she's like, she's shown a lot of warmth on this show.
Yeah.
Very warm.
Very, very, very warm.
Really killing it on the warmth.
I do think she's warm.
I think though she just is like guarded.
I just don't think that she just, I think she is a selective on who she's going to like bestow the warmth to.
But that doesn't mean you're cold.
I don't think, look, I think that she's very warm and fuzzy, but then when someone
bucks her over, she snips them out of her life, which I don't think is crazy. I don't think that's
like a dumb thing to do. I think that's called sense. And then when you, when you go back on that,
and then you let them back in and they do it to you again, that's not good. And that doesn't mean
that like you overcame something by letting a loser back into your house. You know what I mean?
Yeah. Yeah. So she says she's trying to be less. When they're done, get rid of them. There's a billion
people in this world. How many times you're going to get fucked over by the same person?
Snip him, get them out of here. You were right the first time. Yeah. So the boys are like jumping
in the water and playing around, having fun, except for KJ. He's sad. He's like, well, he's,
I guess he feels boat sick or something. So, you know, Darrow's like, do you feel sick? Yeah.
So then, um, uh, then Kyle is FaceTiming Amanda. And here we go, everyone. This is the moment that's
that caused me to reassess previous statements that I personally have made.
So Kyle's like, hey, it's Amanda, everyone.
Hey, Amanda.
And I was like, is Sierra there?
She like doesn't even want to say hi to Kyle.
Like, yeah.
So Sierra's like, oh, hey, Missy.
And she's like, I miss you guys.
Like, wait, wait.
West said best night of my life.
And you said, damn, was that like sarcasm?
She's like, no.
It's like, way to rub this salt in the wound.
And he's like, oh, it was like.
So wow.
So you were feeling jealous and just yeah West best night of his life is the one night I'm not there. Yeah
That feels great. I was like this is a
obnoxious moment because if you just take it on face value knowing nothing about the scandal
It's just like base level obnoxious. I think like really this is
It's just like an annoying thing to say like right like it's like an obnoxious thing to be like well that
feels great. He has best night of his life and I wasn't even there. Like, shut up.
Well, I guess they're referring to a text or something that they were like, hey, how's
everything going? And we're having so much fun this weekend, wish you were here. And Wes was like,
yeah, best night of my life. And she's like, ow, that hurt. The one night I'm not there.
I don't know. I feel like I would say that maybe in a group text or whatever, but knowing what's
happened and Amanda is like, wow. So I didn't come this weekend.
I mean, this is probably what she's thinking in my mind, because, you know, I think they're already fucking at this point.
So to me, she's saying, well, you were supposed to go become friends with Sierra again and just say, we're friends, Ryan, and then make it okay so that, you know, she would be open to dating other people and you could be open to dating other people in front of her like me.
And now I'm not even there and you say it's the best night of your life. What the hell?
Yeah, like, that's how it definitely reads. I think that's no. So I definitely have been.
someone who has just been in denial feeling like I just don't think this affair started over the
summer but like this is the first time where I thought oh yeah maybe maybe something did start to
happen around now it was suspect that she didn't show up that weekend and I don't know like there
was something about this was weird but whether it's just a total coincidence that she had this moment or
not I still thought it was like really obnoxious I don't know like I've always felt like this was
Amanda's fatal flaw is that she does sort of have this obnoxious sarcasm to her that I have never
loved. But I think I've kind of given her a pass on it because I feel like she's had to deal with
so much from Kyle. But now I'm like not giving her a pass on it because she really betrayed a
best friend, I think. And so I'm calling it out where I see it being the hero that I am.
Well, welcome. Mission accomplished. So Kyle's like, well, I guess you just made it and made it about
Are you mad at shoes?
Of course I did.
Okay, well, I love you.
Oh no, Kyle, give it to Sierra.
Love you, Sierra.
Can you give it to KJ?
Uh, you're sick right now.
I know, I just would rather be with someone
who has his eyes closed than to talk to you.
Oh, so now Dara is talking to Mia,
and she's like, yeah, I was a little nervous yesterday
because I saw you guys talking to KJ
and I was like, oh my God, what are they saying to him?
And we see a flashback to that.
And Tara's like, yeah, I mean, I was like, I mean, I know it's quick, but like, I don't have any qualms about it.
I mean, I don't want him to have qualms.
And if he does, it's going to get a knuckle sandwich.
No qualms.
Mia's like, well, like, like, you're worried about him changing his mind or whatever.
She's like, yeah.
And like, to double back would probably like wreck me, you know.
So like if you mess up with what we've got going on, I'll be like really mad.
He was like, um, yeah, well, I think KJ is obviously mature for his age.
Good God.
the way I've been waiting for that kind of commentary about a boy.
She's like, yeah, he's a good guy.
And it's just more like, he's just a little younger than you.
So you guys are in a different phase of your life and just have to keep that in mind.
I mean, he's 23, you're 24.
And I don't know, like, I'm shocked you guys even have anything to talk about.
How old is Dara?
Let's look it up.
I don't know.
She's probably 27.
Because they're acting like she's the old lady at the end of the Titanic.
Dara Summer House.
Let's see.
Oh.
You know, that was...
Oh, she's 33.
Oh, so he's 22 and she's 33?
That is a big difference.
He's 22?
He's 22, right?
How old is KJ Summerhouse?
He's 28.
Okay, you know what, you guys?
Well, that's not bad.
28 and 33.
What did you say?
33?
33 and 28.
That's a five-year difference.
Shut up.
He reads 22, doesn't he?
He does.
He does read 22, but he's 28, which is surprising.
Darer, if anything, Dara reads like she's 23.
Not maturity.
She just looks young.
So, you know, hey, look at all these, look at all these things we're discovering today.
Yeah, I don't think he, I don't, I don't think that's a bad, I mean, 20, it's almost 30.
Come on, get out of here.
And especially if that was a guy and a girl, no one would even, or if it was switched, you know what I mean?
It is a guy and a girl.
But if the situation was switched, no one would think anything of it.
Old men dating 20 years.
And people are like, good for you, buddy, good for you.
Sierra is 30 years old.
So why is she giving you advice
like regarding like regarding Darra being like
you know you guys are different in different two different you know
eras of your life.
Darren knows this.
Darra is 33.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I get the impression they don't really like Darra.
And they're nice to her.
You know,
I don't think anybody's being mean to her.
But I think that the way they've taken KJ is like a little brother.
And KJ is like, I'm sensitive.
And I'm, you know, he has all this stuff going on.
And he's very sensitive.
And I think he does seem very young to them.
And so, and they see Dara, I think, like, okay, you're some TikToker, A.
You came in here, which, you know, they look down on because they're like reality people.
So they're like, okay, TikToker, first mark against you.
Second mark against you.
You, what was I going to say?
Second mark against her.
Oh, she liked Ben first.
Oh, no.
Second mark against her.
She's in the house because she used to bang West.
So that's the second mark against her because it's West.
And even though he hasn't had all this drama yet, he's still West.
And that's gross.
Third mark against her is the, who's the other person, Ben?
That she liked Ben first.
And then it seemed like she may be settled on KJ after she didn't get with Ben.
So I think that they're just wary of her for that stuff.
Because they're really making her sound like Jessica Tamby.
Yeah.
Well, I think that like we don't really, I almost wonder if they're just not really sure where they stand with Darrow.
She sort of is like, is she a cast member?
Is she not a cast member?
Is she just like KJ's girlfriend now?
Like, and I don't know.
I think they just have decided not to commit too much energy into her.
And you could make the same argument with Sabrina, except that Sabrina's like, no, I will be accepted.
So I'm going to get in front of everyone's face and tell them how.
much I love them. I'm going to, I'm going to, like, do acts of service, and I will stand up for them in, you know, in things that I have, like, no reason to stand up for them in.
Yeah. And I'm going to make them like that. I will be the first reality star in a choker in every single scene. Damn it.
Do you notice she's always in a choker? People were saying online that she's, like, actually, like, dead. And then, like, you take up the choker and her head rolls off.
It's like Game of Thrones. You take off the necklace and she becomes, like, an old.
lady or something.
Yes.
Tripples up.
I was just wondering, because I brought up Jessica Tandy as being an old person, like, why is
that the benchmark of an old lady?
I mean, Jessica Tandy has been gone for years, but, you know, I think it's because they
stopped letting, I think it's because in the world, people have stopped aging the same because
of Botox and facelifts and Restolin and all the other shit we do to ourselves now.
And so that was like one of the last old ladies in media, because everyone else, they could be
90 and they still look at least 60.
Well, I mean, Shirley McLean is
looking definitely like a little old lady these days.
God bless her. She just turned 92.
I think
it's largely because
Jessica Tandy started a movie where she was driven
around. She was like an old lady being driven around.
And that's just like, it just really
cemented her old ladiness. And she also
played a lot of roles that like leaned into her
being an old lady. It was like, and now
Jessica Tandy stars in the old lady story,
a movie about old ladies being older.
And so like everyone else
You know, of course we have our older celebrities.
And but like Jessica Tandy just embodied the look of everything.
Like she was in Batteries Not Included.
She's in fried green tomatoes.
Like all these movies where she was like, I'm the old lady.
And so, you know, cocoon.
So, you know, she's just, she's just that bitch for us.
That old bitch.
I think that's a good way.
But I would just in defense of Shirley McLean, I think that Shirley McLean has
decide like that's a that's a decision for her she's like fuck it no one else is doing it i'm gonna age
watch yeah and i'm gonna play every old lady in every movie that ever because now she does that
and she plays a really good mean old lady like that's shirley mclean's you know that's her niche
is like the mean old land she kills it as that and i think she was like i'm gonna age i'm gonna
be like all the unlike all the other witches in this town i don't care i'm gonna age and
I'm going to profit off of it.
And so good for her.
Good.
I mean, honestly, good for her.
Because it's like Jessica Tandy, I just think that Jessica Tandy just works.
It's like fun to say her name.
It's like, what are you going to say?
Like, oh, Joan Plowright?
No.
Jessica Tandy.
Well, maybe a more modern reference of people who are listening could get it who aren't our age, you know.
But whatever is Jessica Tandy.
You're like one of the last old lady.
Because even in Shirley McLean, you say Shirley Maclean, I still think of her in things.
Like, I'll think sweet.
You know or stuff like that.
So anyway.
Iconic roles, her iconic roles were not her being an old lady necessarily, whereas Jessica
Tandy's iconic roles are.
And I'm sure there are some other, I'm sure there's plenty of like Francis Dernhagen
would be a good one too, but she's just not as famous, right?
Yeah.
You know what's crazy when we were doing our, you know, when it's Orange County season, you know,
there tend to be a good number of Wendy Malick jokes that float around here.
And it's like crazy that Wendy Malick is 70.
25 years old. Like I cannot that like I think about that like at least once a week. I was like Wendy
Malick is 75. That's what I mean. You know, that's what I mean. You would never ever guess that
watching Wendy Malick. You would never ever guess. I would think Wendy Malick is like a like a solid
61. Yeah. At most. Yeah. And you know who else feels that way? Wendy Malick. Yeah. So anyway,
the point is speaking of never aging Kyle. Kyle's like,
everybody's doing it.
Everybody's doing down here on this end of the boat.
And Jesse's like,
whoa, can I just say you are looking incredible lately?
You look nothing like Jessica Tandy.
I mean, you really should.
Are people even aging anymore?
Yeah, I got back dimples.
No, like you are like, oh, like still pretty shredded for being like 43.
Like that's actually like really impressive.
Like if I were to assess your back, I would say your back is actually hard and not soft.
Off brand
Your butt hole is very tight as well
Yeah, get your finger out of my butt, Carl.
Sorry, sorry.
My bad.
You just look really good.
Yeah, my nipples are hard.
Yeah, it feels weird.
Yeah, it feels weird.
You feel like you're able to, I don't know,
have more levity and just a good time this weekend
because she's not here really.
He's like, yeah, I mean, too,
I'm going to be myself, I just irritate her.
Well, you're saying you're being yourself.
funny because I'm just me that's who I am I'm just me stop it gotta be me you know you should
be honest I mean you're different people but that's okay like the reality is you guys are
are either going to accept and love each other for who you are or you're just I don't know
is like can I be honest we just not talk about this I was having a good day and I'm not
You're the one who brought it up.
Here comes one right now.
Now it's time to go home.
And guess what?
They're home now.
They're here.
They're walking inside.
It's a nice air condition going on.
And Sierra,
Sierra's in her room and Wes walks in.
And here comes the big inhale.
He hugs Sierra.
It's like, big sniffs.
And so.
They just hold each other.
And the music.
Music stops. It's just them holding each other, like slow dancing to nothing to no music.
Music only they-Shonda Rhymes is losing her mind. She's like, why are you not playing a singer-songwriter right now?
Where is the Colby Kallay?
So then, of course, Kyle's like, it looks like we need a DJ here. Does somebody call a DJ?
See, that's when we need Amanda here to be just like, shut up.
Shut on, Kyle.
So Ben and Sierra are lying on on Sierra's bed.
And guess who calls?
It's Sabrina.
Oh my God.
Did I miss anything?
Did I miss anything?
Oh my God.
I just want to like make sure that I'm like still friends with Sierra.
What's going on guys?
How's it going?
He's like, oh, look, Sabrina Bell.
How are you doing?
Sabrina.
Did you get your ass before you made this phone call?
Very good.
Did you make your bid?
Okay.
Just want to check.
All right, Matt.
Did we eat all?
of all food without me there to chew it into your mouth little girl.
So then Kyle and who else?
Kyle joins Sierra and Ben on the bed.
And Sabrina's like, oh my God, you guys tell me everything.
Serena says, okay, well, we woke up, we got an Uber, we went to the pier before everyone
else was on the boat, and then we cut to West Room.
And Jesse's like, dude, that was so much fun.
West is like, what?
The boat.
Go back to the conversation.
What else?
What was saying?
What?
I don't know.
The giant boat ride you guys took all day.
What else was he,
could he be talking about?
So Sierra is telling Sabrina.
So he actually did a lot of the talking and he was like, well, you made it so confusing
because like I don't know when I can have a conversation with you.
Wait, wait.
Kill about the end.
Like, fucking hell mate.
Like I'm waiting for the end, which is the best part.
Get to the good parts.
Sierra.
Come on.
You know, like, Sabrina Bell is a very dumb person.
She can't, like, focus for a very long time, so you better get to the end.
And then he was, like, kind of like, okay, so like, where do we go from now?
And he's like, I don't know, I could like be your best friend tomorrow.
And I was like, okay, then let's be best friends.
And Sabrina's like, oh, my God.
Can we be best friends, Carl?
I'll pump my fist for that one.
God, that's a good one.
Look at that.
Were they in love or something?
God, I love love.
Right, Sabrina Bell's like, ah, ah.
All right, now Sierra say this next part extra slowly for Sabrina Bell.
She's getting overstimulated, so she's not going to be able to take much in.
She's like, okay, fine.
I cried, and then he hugged me, and then I just like cried some more.
Oh my gosh, I'm going to cry.
I mean, West did say he has a crush on you.
I am so happy to hear this about people I just met last week on.
I am so invested.
Messy ass Sabrina, of course.
So she's like, yeah, Wes said he has a crush on.
you. So now Ben and Kyle get close to the phone and Kyle's like, wait, what? Ben's like,
Sabrina Bell, what did we talk about? What stays in the, what we talk about in the fucking
walls of my apartment stays in the fucking apartment. Do you understand? Young lady, you are not
going out with your friends this week. That's it. Yeah, I don't trust this girl for shit.
That was so messy, her saying that. And it's kind of like, like, lady, they,
just got to being best friends again. You don't know these people. And now you're just like
gossiping about all this shit. That's not your shit to gossip about just that way you can like endure
yourself to Sierra. Like, uh-uh. There's so many red flags about this girl to me. So then Ben's like,
all right. Well, everyone, one night when we came back after a night, we were in the kitchen and
West was like, I still got a bit of a crush on her. And I'm like Sierra. And he goes, yeah. And I said,
Sierra, I just want to just make sure it's Sierra who we live with and not Sierra the singer. And then
West got confused. And I said, so there's the singer named Sierra. And he goes,
I know who that Sierra is, but why would you think I would be talking about her?
And I said, I just want to clarify things.
Anyway, I told Sabrina.
It's not Sierra the teenage witch.
Oh, that's Sabrina.
Wait, what do you mean?
Sierra the teenager.
You got a crush on my girlfriend.
It's Sabrina the teenage witch.
I knew it.
Oh, I knew it.
Sabrina Bell, you are grounded.
Now I understand why you're always bringing a broomstick into the bedroom.
So that's why she's always wearing a cheliorner.
So he's like, I mean, it's my fault. I shouldn't be telling rumors and telling stories and that's not going to help anything, especially if another girl comes and sits on his lap again.
Okay, but here's the thing. So Wes said this, but this was before, I'm guessing, it was before he was like, oh, yeah, we like each other right and flirting with Sierra all the time. And then the girl came and sat on his lap and blah, blah, blah, and led us all the way up to where we are now. So are they going to be friends? Or are they going to be friends? Or are they?
Are they gonna, I need to know.
I can't have this.
Like, we're just friends, but we're really in love.
I actually don't need to know.
I'm actually like, I do find it kind of like, are they are the or are they not kind
to be a little bit of an annoying concept.
So I'm just going to go with right now their friends.
I will also say another thing that has, you know, people have been sort of fixating on a lot
over the past few weeks, but it sort of has come up again yesterday was when they
were playing the games in the living room earlier in the season, the one where they were playing
spin the bottle.
And Amanda gave Kyle a big kiss.
And everyone was like, wow, Amanda and Kyle kissing.
And now the fan theory is that she was doing that to make West jealous because after Amanda
did this big long kiss with Kyle, West then went and sat next to Sierra and then put his
hand on Sierra's side.
And at that moment, what just?
So yes.
And he said something else at that moment, kind of like it's fucked up or something like that.
And so at that moment, we took it as West was drunk and he was regretting how he had been addicted to Sierra.
And we sort of took it in that way as further evidence of him here saying he has a crush on Sierra.
But now people are questioning, really was that a crush moment or was that a, I'm going to get back at you, Amanda.
If you want to play games, I can play games too.
Yeah, that one's been out for a while, but it was re-popularized last night because it was on, I think, watch what happens live.
I think this is where Lindsay was saying the decoy, right?
That's why Lindsay was like, imagine using your husband as a decoy for your boyfriend.
Yikes.
Yikes.
So, and I think that is what they're doing.
That's what they're doing, again, by doing all of this charade of West going to make friends with Sierra.
He's still using Sierra as a decoy because Amanda's just trying to clear the air,
She could be with West publicly, and he clears things with Sierra and gets that.
Unfortunately, what Amanda didn't plan on is that West is a pig, not only to Sierra, he's going to be a pig with you too.
He's going to do the same manipulative shit that he is doing to her to you, which he is doing right now.
Like if he's breaking up, if he's making up a Sierra to be with Amanda, but then he's still going and telling everyone, like, I'm crushing on Sierra and like still like hugging Sierra, like for 10 minutes while breathing her in and shit.
you know he's doing that to manipulate Amanda as well or piss off Amanda so you know so it's fun
cycle enjoy that one Amanda dummy yeah enjoy it um so now they're gonna they're sitting outside to
have some dinner and west is like wow I mean I can't believe this is our first tini on the table
our first dinny on the tabee what he says our first dinny on the table table on the table I hate this person
whatever it is so just like you know the tapes it's their dinne on the tapes yeah dine on the tables yeah
dine on the tapes yeah um so then they're like where's kj and he's sleeping and then they're like
wow can't believe summer's almost over you know and so me is asking everyone what the plan is
this week mine's just begun brother or as i would normally say to people who get me mine's
just but bro that's my shortened words
That was hard one because they were mostly one syllables, but
My sum is just bigs.
I don't know how you can do begun.
Brother, Summys.
That's hard.
It's hard.
It's hard.
It's hard when really weren't on nouns.
Begone.
My summies just begun.
So they're talking about the week coming up.
And the soft launch.
Soft launch is coming up.
It's on Wednesday.
Yeah.
It's on Sunday.
Wednesday.
You know, those days I wouldn't take page on a date.
So yeah, there's like a lot going on with it.
It's like so overwhelming.
And Sierra's like, wow, you've made so much progress in a year.
It's crazy.
It's like, yeah, I have.
Really have.
That's like literally, literally big, a perfect time, like amount of time to make progress.
Like, wow, I can't believe in a year you've remodeled a place and built it and gotten your permits and got it ready.
It's like, yeah, there was a year.
Wasn't a week?
It's like, you made so much progress.
Wow, you did it.
Building this far in a year.
I can't believe you.
You did this.
I'm in here.
Wow.
I had to say, Ronnie, looking back at Watcher Crapins,
we made so much progress in this podcast over 10 years.
It's like, yeah, it's been 10 years.
He's like, yeah, we were just kind of starting out with the truck, but I know people,
things, expected things to happen quicker.
I mean, trusted me.
Trust me.
I wanted to.
I wanted to.
you know, it's here.
And she was like, but it's been a year.
And he goes, yeah, it's, it's been a year.
If anything, we know that he's behind because we saw
restaurant wars on Top Chef and Michael Mina said
it would normally take 10 months.
So you're actually two months behind, Carl.
Yeah.
According to another Bravo show this week, you're really behind,
Carl, get it together.
Last time I checked, they made two restaurants
in 24 hours on Top Chef.
So I don't know why we're giving all these applause.
They also didn't serve alcohol.
So, well, we had to wait to get our, um, our license to not sell alcohol.
That's actually a thing in Brooklyn.
Yeah, yeah.
We had to actually apply for our license to be passive aggressive to our best friend.
And it just got cleared.
So here we go.
Wes is like, fuck yeah, Carl, you oped your bar, you opes, your bars.
Carl's like, oh, could someone, uh, fix the transmission on West?
Yeah, there's been like a lot of like people really like you know
Like come through and like my family and my friends I mean like I've had like some people at this table who've been like incredibly I mean like you all just like so so sorry when he goes I've even have so many friends who have helped it goes and just cuss to Kyle with a blank face
They're just throwing this is the producers are taking symbols from across the yard and throwing them like frisbees at cost four head
It's this entire scene they just troll car they just troll Kyle this whole episode. It's so funny
He's like, yeah, some of you have been helpful.
Wait a minute.
Yeah, but, you know, their wallets have been supportive.
Wait a minute.
What?
I don't know.
Just energy and all of it.
You know, everybody at this table who does not have blonde hair has been very supportive.
Wait a second.
I think the diplomatic way is to say, I really want to thank you all for your support.
You've supported me in many different ways to those who've been able to help out financially.
I really appreciate it.
I understand it's not feasible forever.
everyone. But for those who did, I really appreciate it, but I am also, I feel the support
in many other ways, not just that way. So thank you all. Like, that's the nice way to say it.
But the way he's saying it, he's saying it in the way that if Lindsay had said something like
that, Carl would have been like, that was just like a big. It's like another dig by Lindsay. I mean,
but now, of course, he's doing it to Kyle and he's okay doing it that way.
Well, I'm just honest. Like, you know, this conversation, I'm shook. This conversation about
investing took place literally seven months ago. And again, in the summer.
And we see a flashback to three weeks ago where Kyle's like,
my wallet is way too deep in Leverboy when they're dressed as old man.
And Carl's like, oh, well, is this business like actually in trouble of like,
folding?
Hold on.
Dun, done, done.
I mean, I've tried to be open and honest with where I am with my business, marriage, and our sex life.
And Carl said, but we don't have a sex life.
We're bros.
I said, no, bro.
I'm talking about Amanda.
He's like, oh.
So then I was like, he knows more than everybody.
He's not communicating with me because I'm having to hear about issues his issues with me from other people
So then we see a flashback of
Jesse Jesse happily being messy
He loving it so Carl said that you didn't invest and he was sad and he wrote out a whole email to you
That he was gonna he was gonna make he was gonna say all his vent all his feelings to you and say why you're a big piece of shit, but he never sent it
He didn't let his
mom sent hers either because like when was this well what's up with you guys in emails I
mean seriously emails instead of talking emails instead of saying hello
hey thanks for whoever was napping um was it in the winter or was it recently that makes the difference
so um now jesse is like we're we're going to murfs so everybody leaves um
We are spared the half an hour getting ready scene, which is nice.
I know, they just go.
Yeah.
And half of them go.
Ben doesn't go and K.G. and Dara are asleep.
And Carl has fallen asleep on the sofa.
And then they all leave.
The door closes.
And Carl's like, ho, ha, ho, I just woke up.
Wait a second.
I had this crazy dream.
And you were there.
And you were there.
And you are there.
It's like, Carl, you're talking to pillows.
Oh, I guess I didn't have a dream.
So then Ben is talking to who else?
Sabrina, what happened?
What happened after our phone call?
Did anybody talk?
Were you guys doing anything?
Did West and Sierra get married?
And he's like, well, Sierra and West are like best friends again, and it's just like so good.
Now we can all hang out and stuff.
And then we see them partying in the Hamptons at Murphs.
Big night at Murphs guys.
Big night.
Too bad Carl wasn't there.
he could have been in the mix but uh now it's 154 a.m and they are back and uh carl's gone to bed and uh west is like
hey what's up carl oh i guess carl went went to bed i'm like yeah it's he's been out for like four hours
he got up from the sofa shockingly so uh Sierra um Sierra had made KJ a plate and it's still
sitting out and they're like oh my god is KJ okay and he's still sleeping he's just never well
he's just been sleeping all day and all night um
So Kyle is in his bed texting.
He's like, what the shit?
Hey, I texted you earlier, but I didn't hear back.
I'm home now.
I'm going to bed.
Talk tomorrow.
Miss you.
Yeah.
And he's like, yeah, I will say that my text read with Amanda is like perhaps one of the most depressing text threads of all time.
It's like, hey, babe, take it off.
Hey, babe.
Landed.
Great set.
Calling it a night.
Morning.
Take it off.
Here's a gift about lover boy.
Here's another gift about lover boy.
Oh, no.
Guess what?
I died. Do you want to respond to that? Okay, I'm alive. I guess you figured that one out.
Okay. And the only reaction I ever got was when West said to the group, best night ever.
And she said, damn, I guess that's what it took to give her a little fomo.
West making a comment. I guess that's all she needed.
So then West is now hugging Sierra again. It's another 20 minute hug where they're breathing each other.
And he's like, I'm really glad we talked. Like it took literally two years. That's kind of crazy.
And she's like, I'm stubborn and you're an idiot.
And he's like, you're stubborn and I'm dumb.
And you're an idiot.
Just hold me.
Just hold me on me.
So, Jesse, get out of here.
See you.
It's the morning.
Carl's going to go on a run.
Carl competed in the London Marathon.
this weekend, which, and so that's, there's actually nothing more to say about that.
He did it and he, he did it.
Yeah, good for him.
Good for him.
So, uh, good for him.
Now I can be bored with him on it in a totally different country.
Yeah.
Uh, I don't know why I shared that right now, but I feel like I'm, we're peppering in all
the summer house gossip since we didn't have a crappy hour this week.
It's next week.
By the way, it's amazing.
I'm, it's, I'm bored with Carl, but it's like six hours ahead.
now we know why he's aging so fast he's ahead of us oh poor carl so um we're so lean to
carl literally carl does not even do that much i we know the reason why carl is aging it's
literally kyle is stealing something from him like kyle is stealing carl's essence and now i
honestly understand why carl is like why are you not investing in my bar i've given you i've given
you my youth. I'm giving you taken all up my spinal fluid. I do actually feel bad sometimes. I feel
like Carl is like I do believe that Carl's a fuck boy. I do believe that Carl's passive aggressive and that
he's passive in general. Uh, but I also do think that he probably is like a sweet guy just trying
to figure out his place in life. It's just sometimes very, very frustrating to watch.
I've had so many seasons where Carl's just been a jackass that I just don't trust Carl. That's it.
Like, I don't trust his nice guy act.
I think that partially he is nice, but we see him doing his manipulative shit all during this season, too.
It's just with Kyle, so it's not as frustrating.
But he's just a constant fucking manipulator.
So he's having a good season, but, you know, I just, I still am always giving Kyle shit because, you know, Pepperidge Farm remembers.
And that's it.
Pepperidge Farm remembers?
Yes.
Is that a slogan of theirs?
Yeah, like, you may have forgotten, but Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Farm remembers.
Come on.
I've never thought of Pepperidge Farmer.
You know, I'll bring it back.
And, you know, just like roll that beautiful bean footage.
You know, I feel like I single-handedly brought that back.
I've been saying that for literally two decades on this show and or in blogs or whatever.
Yes, Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Look it up right now.
Look it up.
No, it came up right away.
I don't remember this from the commercials.
I really don't, which is the irony.
I said, they remember.
I said, roll that beautiful bean footage and then did that.
I remember.
The song was so many times, they finally brought it back.
And they were like, roll that beautiful bean footage.
And then they put like hip hop music, like to update it.
I was like, I did that.
That was one time where I sat in front of the TV and I said,
I don't know what I put out into the universe, but I did this.
I did this.
You're welcome, beautiful bean footage.
I'm assuming that the Pepperidge Farm remembers commercials from the 80s were like,
like, you may have forgotten.
You may have moved on in life, but we're,
remember the good old we remember the true things in life yeah when you say pepperage farm remembers
it just sounds like a fucking threat it's like yeah yeah well that's what it's been do whatever you
want pepper farms is we're gonna remember some tomorrow you sleep with the milanos yeah pepperage farm
never really went away that that saying and also it's an internet meme um and it came from family guy
so got it like that one's around more but i do i do really take credit for the beautiful bean
footage. I really do in my delusional mind. I am starving and I've had cookies in the mind all day today
like no no joke because the infatuation boasted something about cookies in Los Angeles. So I have to ask
a very pressing question and Summerhouse is our most cookie forward show. Thanks Mia. What is your
favorite pepperage farm cookie? The only one I eat from there is that's the Milano right? Yeah.
I eat that one. That's only one I eat. Which Milano? Which type?
classic it's the one that's like two white ovals with chocolate in the middle no i know but like
there's there's like several different varieties of milanos there's chocolate mint chocolate orange
double chocolate etc well chocolate mint sounds good but just a chocolate i think just a chocolate i mean
milanos are great i'm a big i love them i'm a big cookie maker and not a big cookie buyer
i'll say i'll accept them in all forms i will make them i will consume them um of course i love a milano
classic. I actually of the
Milano's, the chocolate orange is like
literally
I love it. I made a face earlier, but
that does sound lovely. Yeah, I was surprised. Honestly, I was
a little surprised. I felt like I felt
argumentative for no reason. But then
you said it again. I was like you went to throw down
but I have to say
like low key, I think my favorite
pepperage farm cookie
is a Geneva.
Geneva's on what's a Geneva
I need a live? Geneva's are my favorite. They're a short
bread cookie. They are like an
oval almost like the oval is like it's almost like the shape of like a name tag and it's like
got dark chocolate on the back with little nuts and it's so good I love that one so much the only
thing I don't like about it is that I feel weird holding it because I feel like when I have my
bare fingers on the chocolate it you get chocolate finger you have to hold it along along the edges
which feels strange it feels like it's exposed but wow a Geneva I've not I don't think I'm
I've ever had a Geneva.
I'm looking at it.
I don't think I've ever had one.
Oh, I love the, like literally I love the Geneva.
And I will also say there's one that I think is really good.
It's like, it's not like my favorite.
What's it called?
It's like a sandwich.
It's another one of the sandwich ones, but it's like sort of like thin and, it's thin and crispy.
And that one, I'm going to highlight it because if you, if you break it up and you put it into ice cream, it makes a really great ice cream topping.
I discovered this once when I got stoned.
But you don't remember what it is?
It's a very famous one.
I will have to look it up real quickly.
Pepperage Farm.
God, Pepperidge Farm.
Guess what?
I really am doing a bad job remembering.
You are.
This whole thing started with Pepperidge Farm remembers.
But Ben doesn't.
I will have to say, I think like the whole variety of Pepperidge Farm chocolate chip cookies,
like the Nantuckets and whatever, those are fine.
I don't think that's like their strong point.
I think their strong point.
I like the Milano's, the Geneva.
Is it like a Brussels?
Is that what it?
Oh, oh, oh, it is the Brussels, the Brussels.
The Brussels.
The Brussels.
My hack to everyone.
Brussels are great to eat.
Brussels make an amazing ice cream topping
because they stay crispy.
They are wonderful.
Put them in your ice cream, everyone.
Thank me later.
The Brussels.
Okay, well, sounds good to me.
Okay, so cookies are always going to be good people.
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