Watch What Crappens - #3373 Summer House S10E16 Part One: Time to SkiDaddle

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

This is part one of a two-part recapKyle and Amanda kinda break up on the Summer House finale and Lindsay gets closure with Carl. Then West announces to Ben and America that he doesn't want to give Ciara the wrong idea before going to make out with Ciara, giving her the wrong idea. Can’t wait to watch him get ripped for the next three weeks. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. For livestream tickets to our NYC Cabaret on June 3 and June 5, get tickets at watchwhatcrappens.com.Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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And today is Summer House Season 10, Episode 16. Skiya later. Skiy a later alligator. Yeah. it's the end, the end of an era, because the question is, will the trio of Lindsay, Kyle, and Carl be returning to Summerhouse next season, or have they, will they be transitioned off into the elder care known as in the city? We'll have to see. But, yeah, but it was, it was the end of an era because it was, you know, it's obviously going to be the last summer of Kyle and Amanda still

being together and as they left at the end as we just as we start to transition over to in the city you could tell that everyone had this vibe of like like this is it's not going to be the same next year and part of me wonders do they always cry at the end of this this summer but they just never show it on TV because it's like oh it's the end of the school year you know like it reminded me so much of when I graduated from college and after graduation if the ceremony was done you're still on campus and then like you now have to pack up and you have to like pack up your car and drive off and you're just sort of like sitting there like enjoying those last few minutes while you're still technically in college and then you're like driving off to start the next chapter and like it's a

very emotional time and watching this really reminded me of that and I wonder if they feel this way every time it's like the end of summer camp end of college end of something or another so oh that's so sweet Ben I can just imagine you crying like calling you I was getting I was getting choked up when I watched this. I was getting choked up, but I was also like, I also felt manipulated because I kind of feel like they probably also have this moment every single year. But this is the year that they show it because it is the end of an era in many ways. And it's 10 years. And Brava was like just trying to make us cry.

And I was like, well, guess what? It kind of worked for me. You did make me kind of cry. Yeah, it didn't for me. Just because we're such different people. You know, when I left high school, I didn't get to graduate high school. I didn't get to. I chose not to graduate from high school.

because I wasn't getting my PE credit, because I refused to go to PE class, which I believe is my right. And they were like, well, you have to come back for another whole year then to get a credit. And I was like, no, I'm not going to. So I got my GED. But as I drove away from the high school,

I was like that little girl in the meme with the building burning behind her and she's just smirking, you know? So that's kind of how I look at everything. I was hoping you were saying you're like, like, Conrad, driving off from Laguna Beach up to Los Angeles to start your life.

in the hills well kind of i moved to new york on my 18th birthday i went on a bus for three days and then slept on the streets of new york city so i mean you know same the same thing the non-privileged version i guess of that yeah feel those rats on your skin yeah so you know living like that new york too and then watching this show and just seeing how everybody's like so rich and you know even the poor ones like, I'm so poor. And then you see their apartments and it's like, uh, this is $10,000 a month.

What the fuck are you people talking about? But yeah, so I have a different kind of view of it. But I would, you know, I look at it as like burn the house down. You know, you've got all these shit relationships and all these shit memories.

Just burn it down, build a new house. This door is still broken. Yeah. I know the door, the door suddenly like not working again. After a summer of competence was hilarious to me. Like it started to act up last week and then this week it fully was like jammed up again. And I'm like, it's like what movie is? It's like the Lord of the Rings or something like the

sword that glows when it's like in the presence of evil or something. Like when shit's about to go down, that door swells and warps and like does not open up anymore. It's like it's about to go down. Scandal is about to happen. Well, might have to do with Kyle slamming it and throwing stuff against it last week when he was mad. Oh, Loverboy warped it. He threw the Loverboy can at it and those juices warped the wood. Maybe it tasted Loverboy. Maybe it tasted the Loverboy espresso martini flavor.

I was like, ooh, the fuck is this. I'm sorry, Leverboy. I tried, but yikes. I did not know that they don't have that. I still have it in my fridge and I bought it three years ago when it came out. We drank when me and my sister tasted one and we're like, no, a no. I'll drink the purple one, though. That one's pretty good.

Okay, anyway, the point is, it's a season finale. Everybody dies at the end. Okay. Let's move on to the city. More or less. Okay. Spiritual. Well, spiritually, everybody dies at the end.

Yeah, yeah, that is pretty true. So, but we are still in our aprae ski party and everyone's dancing and having a great time. And then Kyle basically tells Ben, who would have? Known that you pulling your pack around in Italy would have led to this, right? He's like, well, you must have been impressed him, all right? So, I guess what do you mean that like, like, who would have thought that because you did that, that now you'd be here on the show dancing in the ski, ski party? I think he means that that Kyle acts every, Kyle acts the same.

One thing that's great about Kyle is that he's consistent. You know, he is the same when you meet him in real life. He's the same parting after in real life as he is on this show. He's just the same. I imagine that they were in Italy together for that wedding or whatever. And Kyle whipped out his dick in the backyard. It was like, I'm going to piss right by this pool. And so Ben came up and peed next to him.

And they had their wieners out. It was like, you should come on Summerhouse, you know, because that's very Kyle. Like, love your dick. Come on Summerhouse. And I'm imagining that's what they're talking about. Did you read the comments that we missed last week that Ben and Kyle were like staring into each other's eyes like they were going to make out? I didn't even notice that.

I, 100% did not see that. and it became like a meme. And now like Kyle, Kyle put a whole thing. I fully miss that, which is really a shame because I love picking up on homerotic subtexts.

But I guess I just was looking at like over text. Maybe it's because when I see Ben, I just naturally avert my eyes at this point. Well, yeah, maybe it's like heated rivalry where like we don't need subtexts anymore. That's not gay enough. I need like actual hardcore butt munching or something to see it. Like if it's not,

if you're not like sucking a dick, I just don't even care anymore. Like I don't care like maybe he's gay Maybe he's not I just believe whatever you say Unless I see you know some Munch in or whatever So I didn't really notice it but then today I did Because it was pointed out and I was like these guys really do have some

Subtext here there's something cute about it They've got like a good energy you know I'm not saying you're gay I'm just saying if they were gay I would watch them do whatever they do on Twitter They're like little lady men posties That's what you're saying I say what you're saying No, I'm just kidding.

I just think if this were prison, I would feel lucky to room with either one of them. I do really like how affectionate the men are with each other on this show. I think we talked about this a few weeks ago about the affectionate. Like straight men are very affectionate with each other, but we as a society don't really dwell on that. And we definitely don't portray that. And they're very affectionate on this show. This show in Love Island are the shows where men are very, very affectionate. And once in a while in Vanderpump rules,

there were some moments with like Tom Sandoval and like either Tom or Jacks where there was some affection, but it was so wrapped up in duchiness. It was hard to really enjoy. But on this show, there's a scene later on in this episode where Jesse just crawls on top of West in his bed. And I think like maybe kisses him on the cheek or something like that.

Like they're very sweet with each other. And there's nothing wrong with it. And it's wonderful. So even with Ben, it's nice. Well, there you go. So Amanda gives us, Jesse equipped.

I approve of the male affection on this show. I applaud straight men showing feelings. You heard it here first. So Jesse tells Amanda he loves her. She's like, I love you. Oh, geez. We could be friends forever outside the city,

but nothing beats doing this. Partying really hard in the backyard. Nothing beats doing this, whining while everyone around me has having the time of their life. That's kind of what she does every summer. I can have a terrible relationship in the Zinni, but nothing beats having a terrible relationship

with all of you here to witness it. It's so much better when it's ruining everyone else's summer. Nothing beats having a terrible relationship when you're dressed like you're on a ski slope, but it's 96 degrees in humid. Everyone's dancing. And Kyle and Sierra go to sit down. And Kyle's like, this might be your best party yet.

She goes, really, wow, better than snooze fest. I mean, like, it was in the name. I actually disliked the snooze fest party quite a bit. I did not like the oversized beds. And I hated that reunion last year where they were all sort of sitting in. They made it look like the snooze fest. I hated that so much. So Kyle is like, yeah, well, my only issue is snooest with the name.

I mean, it doesn't really scream party, you know? I was like, well, that's the point. We didn't really scream party that summer. and we see last year it's basically Sierra and Paige lying in bed. Page being in bed. Yeah, we had to all be in bed with Paige. It's like, fair.

Well, you screen party this summer, that's for sure. She's like, no, I mean, I've really been, like, a lot better about it. But I feel like I go out with certain people and I've been, like, really finding my way. But I just want to, like, pick your head about last night. Oh, don't pick my head. Okay, it's itchy.

Okay, I've got great hair. Don't pick at it. Oh, you mean metaphorically. Well, I mean, Sierra. If I'm not going to lie, I don't know how to process what we talked about on the beach. Like I just felt felt hurt. I'm really scared for the future. So I'm going to stare at my toes for the rest of the scene.

If that's okay with you. Okay. She's like, this is Summer House. And we're all going to do this today. So I'm going to speak to in therapy speak. I hear you. You are valid. Okay.

And he's like, well, yeah, like, you know, I don't feel like anybody hears me. I don't know how to explain where I'm coming from anymore. Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of drunk. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Is my eyeliner messed up? She's like, well, you don't know how to express yourself, Kyle, okay? He's like, well, and your life is like literally falling apart. And like, you're not going to react well, you know.

And she's like, okay, but like you lash out, you go after your best friend. You say fuck you to people who, you know, you shouldn't be saying fuck you too, like your wife. And, you know, people get caught in your crossfire. And we're trying to support you. But, you know, we don't know if we need to support you together or apart, but we want you to be happy and we're not rooting for you to get divorced, but you guys need to have, you guys need the ability to communicate and have these conversations. I'm like, well, that's true.

And I've really, Sierra's advice is so good. And the way she's just laying it out there for him is also so good. I just wish she would listen to her own because this is kind of the advice that Sierra needs to take for herself because she spent two years, you know, not communicating with West and all this. And then it's put, you know, that's helped put them. I wouldn't say it's put, it, that's the reason it's put them. But it's kind of this like delayed maturity of the friendship where now they're like kind of back at square one and all this other stuff.

Anyway, the point is, you're correct. But yeah, you need to communicate as well. And also you can't really teach Kyle to communicate because Kyle only can hear his own pain. And he's only going to say, but, but, but. Here, I don't know. Kyle, if you need to communicate just, it's sometimes it's better to. write it down with your pee. Okay, so just go over there and just start spying the letters.

Okay, there you go. Yeah, well, you know what? Sometimes Ronnie, the best therapist, their lives are a full on shit show, right? Like, isn't that the, did we learn nothing from Prince of Tides? Hello, Dr. Lowenstein. That's true. I guess so. Yeah, because she is really smart in what she tells him.

And I think she's the only person that's really explained it to Kyle this well. I mean, by the way, how many times do we sit here? Do we sit here, especially on below deck? And we lecture every single person about how they should be doing their job. And a real person would do their job this way. And if you're like in a business environment, you act like this and you do this and you do this and what you should have in that environment, this, do I do any of that stuff in my real life? Absolutely not.

I'm the laziest fucker. Okay. I will have like my bag, my luggage will have clothes in it for three weeks minimum after I go on a trip just sitting there and I'm sitting here talking about how people should run their lives and act and behave. So I am the epitome of the person who has all the advice and recommendations in the world and does not follow a lick of it himself. Well, yeah, but that's why we're the heads of the Hippocrat party. So, listen, we're still in office 14 years later. So I know, we're doing something, right? And that is being hypocrites every day. It's from the IRS.

Did you just say the same thing? No, but that's funny. I can't believe what this country is doing right now. It's awful, awful. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. So, but yeah, I mean, we were talking about below deck yesterday and filleting a fish. And I was talking about being a waiter and how much training it took to like filet a fish and this and that.

And I'm going on about filleting a fish. And I was thinking last night when I went to bed, I was like, you were such a fucking Hypocrat. Like, think about all the times that you splattered fish guts onto people sitting at a table at a nice, beautiful Moroccan restaurant. And I'm just splattering fish guts literally all over people, you know? And I'm like sitting here judging people on their fillet of fish. We were on one with Below Deck yesterday. I know a lot of people that listen to the various shows. And like, if you listen to, you watch Summer House, you're not necessarily watching Below Deck. First of all, Below Deck is so good. Second of all, we. We really, we put in a two hour episode yesterday at Blowdeck. We were just that fired up because we're equally fired up about men being babies and their emotions and like how like systems are sexist and how women really get the raw end of so many things. And we're also fired up about how fish are flayed. Sort of at equal.

Equally. They never stopped. It was a nonstop episode yesterday. So Kyle takes Sierra's hand and he's like, I hear you. I'm sorry. I'll speak therapy, talk to, right? She's like, look at me. If I didn't care about you, I wouldn't say anything to you.

Now, I don't know if you can find Amanda at this party, but I want you to go to her and apologize and say, but some more. All right, I'll do it. So Amanda's talking to Lexi and Amanda's like, Hi, I saw Andrea, but I was asking where you were. Come on. meet Gavin. Gavin's part of the new family. Is Gavin in the city? I just don't remember everyone's names yet. Probably is, right? I don't know. I haven't, in the city is one of those. You know,

obviously I watched it. And I was like, I'll learn your name when you prove yourself to me. It's like watching a new season of Blow Deck where it's like, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give this six weeks. Yeah, I think, I feel like there's someone on their name, Willie, or maybe not. I don't know anyone's names except Yvonne. Yvonne who talks like Emma Stone. Georgina. I remember Georgina. Georgina. I feel like there's a guy. She's like a crazy aesthetician. That's the one I said you'd like.

I knew that. I knew that was the, well, first I, because Ben texted me and was like, oh, you're going to really like someone on the show. I'm not going to tell you who. So I was waiting. And at first I thought it might be Lexi because her voice was, like, there was something weird to start with Lexi's voice, but then it turned normal. And I was like, it couldn't be Lexi. And then Georgina came on. I was like, it's Georgina. It's got to be. Yes, it's sort of. What a mess.

Love her. Anyway, that's the next hour. But for right now, yeah, I don't know who Gavin is, and I don't care. So Amanda's, like, talking to Gavin, and then we see Bailey, and she's pouring vodka in the ice looge. And she's like, am I flirting? Am I flirting right now? Then outside, Jesse is talking to, he's introducing Sabrina and Ben. And he's like, yeah, here's my friend.

Sabrina's hot. Ben's hot. And Sabrina's like, oh, my God, nice to meet you. Oh, I'm sorry, I can't be your best friend. I've already got one. Her name is Sierra. Best friends from live. Yes.

By the way, Gavin is on in the city. He's the guy who runs the bar that they go to, which we'll get to. So, yes. By the way, Sabrina, I just, I can't with this girl. I'm sorry. I cannot with this faky fake. It's too much. It's just way too convenient that she meets one of the breakout stars of Summerhouse.

like the one who's most closely aligned with page de sorbo that she like meets her and immediately is like we are soulmates and now is all up in her business and is like i'm your confidant you know like i don't know like to me i just think it's suspicious and weird i'm sorry i just i don't trust it she she doesn't really offend me i mean i don't think she i don't get mean vibes or anything like that from her i definitely get crazy vibes but You know, they're like innocent, you know? I feel like they're innocent. Like when you watch the Billy Elish movie and I don't know why I'm still talking about that.

I'm so sorry. But I saw it. And it was good. But then you see like all the girls crying in the audience. It's like you just cut to 50,000 people sobbing. She's one of those people, you know. She's one of those sobbing people. She'll see her as being like an Amy Grant song.

Well, maybe not Amy Grant. But like a Taylor Swift song will come on in a home goods. And she'll just be, oh my God. This song speaks. me because like I had a break up this week. Oh my God. She's just like hugging random people in the picture frame aisle like crying over this was us. Do you see this couple so happy in this picture frame that used to be me guys? I just see her open wound. She's just an open wound, you know. Yeah. It's what we'd call a very young soul. I'm sure. Yeah, like a zygote. She's a zygote soul.

I, she seems very nice, but I don't know. I'm just suspicious. I'm suspicious. I just, I just, you know, it was the combination of, it's, it's one thing,

we all have met people that we immediately connect with like, oh my God, we're going to become best friends. But it was like, specifically the people that, was Sierra right away. And then the fact that she got so performative about West's,

uh, being on a lounger with another girl. I'm like you, okay, that's fine if you connect with Sierra. But now you're going to take up for Sierra like she, like you've been her friend for four years. And I'm like,

there was, something, I just, I can't discount it. I need to, I don't know. I'm willing to revise my opinion down the line, but for right now, I, I don't trust this lady at all. And also, she voluntarily takes photos with Ben making out. And I think that, like, you combine all these things together. It's all very performative. It's very, like, aware of the cameras. I, I just think there's, there's an ick factor there for me that I do not appreciate. Yeah. Well, I can see that for sure. So, Lindsay, Lindsay's like, um, and to be honest with you, like, to be honest with myself, like, I'm super buried, like, a lot of things after the breakup, and I need to have a talk with Carl after this whole Sharon debacle. Sharon attacked me in a soft bag. So she is going to go have a conversation.

Sharon came up as like, nice to see you. Oh my God, what a tobacco? No, I knew what Sharon was doing. That's, you know, coming to insist on shooting a scene with Lindsay. so she can victimize herself. I know what you're doing. I see you, Sharon. Sharon is the real problem. I'm like, I'm fine with Sabrina while Sharon is still in the neighborhood.

The grass is always greener. I just think it's funny when Lindsay's like, this Sharon debacle? I'm like, it wasn't a debacle. It was just an awkward conversation. Yeah, but didn't it make more sense once she kind of explained? it to Carl because I really got it.

I mean, I already got it. Yeah, I thought that was good context. Yeah, but I really got it in this conversation. So she pulls Carl aside. And she's like, we need a little bit tongue. And she's like, yeah, I have to like, I can't leave it up to Carl because like he faints around me. Remember that time? He literally fainted before he's proposing.

And we see Carl just being a wuss. Oh, no. I'm really sorry. Lindsay Dale Hubbard, will you revive me? Um, so she's like, yeah, let's go sit in the igloo. Whoa, yeah. It's good to see that, uh, Yvonne is here. I thought Emma Stone had come to the party.

I turned around. I was like, oh, my God, two time on Oscar winner, Emma Stone. There's just Ivan voice. So, so, so, anyway. I just wanted to sit in the igloo, which is like the perfect representation of our relationship. He's like, oh, okay. Let's go out there. Okay, so the last couple of days brought up a lot of feelings and emotions and not really

about our relationship, but our friendship. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. It's like, I've got, I'm not. I'm going to show you what therapy has taught me over the course of this conversation. So please go ahead and say your peace.

You're a lady. Then you deserve that. I hear you. Wait, wait. I just want to say one thing, one thing. I just want to say, thank you for helping calm the situation last night during that fight. Having you do that, it like meant a lot. It meant a lot.

Yeah. Well, I feel like I knew in that moment. Like, if it were me and my voice and I looked you dead in the eyes, and I was like, Carl, it would trigger you. And if that triggered you, then you would be less triggered over the other thing you were triggered about. So I was blocking one trigger with another trigger, which is my voice. He's like, you're right. I'm still triggered right now. I'm triggered right now.

Thank you so much. Thank you for trigger. It's like when you go out to, you're out in the world, it's like 3 p.m. And for some reason, someone has the exact same alarm clock. and that goes off at 3 p.m. and you get triggered because you're like so used to it being 7 a.m. And that thing going off, it was like hearing your voice.

So thank you. Thank you. I really calm me down in a really good way. I was like, yeah, well, for me, brought up a lot of feelings.

And then on Wednesday, your soft flash bar opening, your mom came up to me and was like asking for a bunch of hugs. It was disgusting. And then asking me questions about Jemma. And I was like a very uncomfortable girl. Like, I was like a pretty rattled.

Really? Wow. Okay. Um, okay, well, go on. I can't believe it's something we got to share and being like, well, you, you sure are yourself. And that's the most important thing to be. Loser. That is one of the most hilarious passive aggressive lines of the year.

Like, she's a little mean, just like her mom. You are you. So Lindsay's like, I have not spoken to her since our breakup. but I just felt like it was like glossing over everything that's like happened. And I'm just like, you know, it's just like, it's confusing as hell, right? Yeah, like, one hell. Yeah, I don't think that my mother clocked it as such in the moment, though. I'm sick.

Yeah, well, but I know that's kind of the problem, though, because, like, there's no clocking. Like, no clocking is going on. Where's the clocking? Well, I did just tell you an alarm story. So that was something, I'm sure. But when we broke up, like, I didn't even hear from your mom for, like, a month. And like I have weathered the storm already. And then like two months later, your mom's partying and celebrating basically dancing

on the grave of our relationship in Mexico. So this, I think, puts it into context that people don't necessarily get, which is that since they broke up at the last minute, Carl was like, well, I spent all this damn money on this wedding and I'm not getting it back. So he went on his honeymoon with his mom, like he partied on this honeymoon. And then the mom is making very much. videos basically, you know, like lying down on the bar while busboys are doing shots out of her tits or whatever. Like, what? I broke up. Fuck you, Lindsay, you fucking loser. And so Lindsay's like,

yeah, that that wasn't cool. So, like, your mom's publicly humiliating me and, like, celebrating my demise. And then coming up to me at soft slash bar when I can't even have a martini. Right. And by the way, Shina was there, too, most importantly. And also, let's not forget that Lindsay did mention that like Sharon was like another mother for her for 10 years. And then, you know, so this breakup happens and she doesn't hear anything for two months from Sharon. So, you know, Lindsay already has a lot of abandonment issues with her mom as it is. And then this woman doesn't say anything to her. And then she goes off and goes on a vacation, this honeymoon, which feels very much to Lindsay, as she says, dancing.

on the demise of our relationship, which I don't, I think probably for Sharon, it was like, it's a free vacation. But like for Lindsay, it feels really insulting, especially when there's a headline that, that's like Carl Radke's mom dances the night away with Shina, Shea in Mexico on his canceled wedding weekend. That's, you're not going to feel good about reading that kind of thing, especially when you're like, wait, why is Sheena on my honeymoon? How did that happen? And he's just, he just goes, oh, yeah. She's like, yeah. And part of me was like, wait for you to say, like, you know what, Lans? I just want to talk to you one-on-one and figure out what went down after we broke up.

And you never did, Carl, you never did. And he's like, oh, I hear you. Oh. Yeah, everything just, like, fell apart, like, two months before our wedding. So, like, that to me was, like, shuddering. Like, how can you be my best friend of eight years and dreamy like that? Like, I thought her friendship went beyond the TV show. And I thought that, like, you would have, like, come to me first and been like,

I'm honestly having second thoughts. I think we need to postpone our wedding. Now, I mean, that's true, but if we all remember that season, and that was not going to be a season where either of you guys were going to be talking to each other about anything, you were sitting there complaining about he wasn't having sex with you behind his back, and he was complaining about, you know, a million different things behind your back. And, yeah, you guys were communicating. I mean, that's true.

In the forefront of your relationship at that moment and time, you guys hated each other. That's true. And I think they were both a disaster in that relationship. But, I mean, I was definitely Team Lindsay there because, you know, to, like, go, watch to go watch the season and see that the whole season was carl basically telling everybody like oh my god like she's horrible to me it's just like acting like this huge victim when she's like staying calm and trying to work things out with carl and trying to help carl and trying to baby carl through life and help him get a podcast started and help him get anything going he had nothing going on

ever at the time and then to find out that he's been talking about you this whole time on national TV like he does this season with Kyle. Like he, this is Carl, this is Kyle's M.O. You know, so, or Carl's M.O. And so to see him doing that is, and then not ever really get to say anything. I mean, I guess she did at the reunion, but.

So, yeah, I mean, Carl's think he's very non-confrontational. And so that, that for sure is like the issue here. So she's like, yeah, we never had to talk about this. And I want some closure, yada, yada, yada. Meanwhile, everybody's watching.

You know, they're like, oh my God, they're talking. Commercials. Here comes one right now. So then back in the igloo, Carl's like, oh, okay, I really understand. I totally hear you, totally valid. And, you know, it's fucked up, you know. I'm really sorry.

And I've said to Kyle a couple times, you know, just being able to laugh at you and talk about the good times. Oh, hold on. Oh, we've had a lot of that. We've had good memories. And I didn't handle it well, you know. And you've helped me in so many words. ways of my life. And I probably wouldn't be where I am today without the way you were there for me.

And just like pushing me and like guiding me in a really difficult time in my life and saying brick and mortar sucks. You know, you made me a better person. And I'm forever grateful for that. I just got to believe it took two years. And you actually going, hey dude, what the fuck? Well, I have to do that a lot around here. I was like, yeah, well, not going to lie. When you crack the whip is really good. And I'm just like so glad you like took me to come over here and talk and I learned a lot right now and it was a great moment for growth and my harboring resentment about the fact that you're talking shit about my mom yes well I just bury a deep down inside and let it fester and then complain

to everyone behind your back for the next season perhaps but yeah great chat great child so yeah so was nice he stayed you know he kept he was just like you know I'm not going to argue with Lindsay I'm just gonna give her what she needs give her the apology she needs and move on which you know good for him yeah because honestly like I'm on team Lindsay with this whole breakup, but the truth is he's the one who broke it off with her, so he doesn't need the closure. She's like,

you never sat down with me and we never had that closure. It's like, well, unfortunately, the person who does the breaking up usually is not the person who's also going to seek out the closure because they just got their closure. They just closed it.

I closed the door in your face. So that was the closure. Okay, but I did laugh when he goes, um, okay, Linz, learned a lot right now.

Yeah, learned a lot. Thanks. started crack. Cooper talk. It's so like therapist. As per your request,

I have made sure to make a note of this. And in the future, we will do better. Thank you for us. Totally. He's like, oh, please take 10% off next time you come to soft slash bar.

Oh, that's. So now people are doing Dotskis. And Kyle's like, I'm alive. No, no word on if that means Amanda, or if he's looking

for somebody else at this point. I'm hoping the latter. People are partying. And KJ's like, whoa, this vest, by the way, this used to be a lifestyle. Dara styled me. I was like, all right, I'll let you style me this time. I'm anxious. Then Kyle is like, hey, man, I want to introduce you to somebody.

No, I'm good. No? So she just walks away. And so Amanda's like, I don't know. ignore my issues with Kyle by any means. I just don't feel like arguing with him anymore. Like, I know I've had these conversations before.

And I know how they go. Like, do I get an apology? Maybe. Will he do it again? Yeah. And like, the only thing that's change is like my reaction. And, you know, it's so funny because, like, literally Amanda would have been the people's hero. By the end

of this episode, like, she would have, we would have all been cheering for her so much. So, much like we would have been so behind or all the decisions she makes a little bit Amanda I don't know you know I really don't know and it's hard to say but you know know while I was cheering it on through a lot of this because Kyle is just full of shit you know and his apologies are bullshit you know I don't blame her for being pissed about any of that stuff but I think just watching that dinner you know a couple weeks ago

where she was sitting there smirking while Lindsay was like going off on Kyle about everything that Amanda had told Lindsay. I mean, that would have probably turned to me because she's, I don't know. An asshole, you know? Like, I think, Kyle being an asshole does not negate her being an asshole.

So. Yeah, no, but I think, look, we've, we've said this relationship is doomed for many, many years.

And I think that there is literally, when Kyle, when Kyle said, yeah, um, when Kyle said, you know, yeah,

maybe the reason why I'm going out and partying so much is because I, I don't want to come home because, like, she hates me. And like, why would I want to come back to that? So like, we've really had this POV of like,

like, Kyle, like all she wants for you to be there and then you're not, you're not being present for her. Like, of course this is going to be done. Like she has simple requests,

just do them. And I still stand behind that by the way. But also like, you know, it's important to know that there's also the other side as well. I hate being a both sider, but I do think in a relationship

there are two sides of a story. And I think, honestly, if this scandal had not broken out, I feel like we would have seen that scene with Kyle and Amanda looking at him. And I'm not sure we would have honestly scrutinized her facial reaction as much in that. I think we would have seen her as someone who's like, finally, people are seeing what I see. And we would have been like, there's a world where we may have been happy for her in that moment.

But I think now with the greater scandal happening and we see sort of duplicity at play and we see someone. who can't fight her own battles. Like we see that more in that situation. And so I think though that like without the scandal, I think a lot of us would have been cheering her on for finally taking owner, not owner for finally taking control of her destiny and moving out of the situation that was making her so unhappy. Yeah, I mean,

I would have been happy that they broke up for sure because they've needed to. But she just seems just, God, she's just unbearable a lot of the time. She just really is. Sorry. Yeah, I agree. I think he's just like, oh, the constant whining and going behind, you know, going and telling everybody your problems and then having everybody fight your battles and then sitting there laughing when they do it. And then he's like, do you want to meet someone now? And just like being a total asshole, you know, like if you're not going to work it out, then just don't work it out.

Leave, but stop dragging it on and on. It's just painful. She's been a wet blanket for years. And I think, I think we've talked about this a few episodes ago as well. She's been a wet blanket for years. And I feel like on my part, I've tried to kind of not just lean into that and be like, she's such a wet blanket because I just feel like it's just not fair. I do think that women a lot of times are labeled nags and wet blankets when they're not having

fun because the guy says it's time to have fun. And I just think it's like really unfair to do that. And I try to push back where I could on leaning into that feeling, even though clearly we definitely have called. her a wet blanket before. But now I kind of am like, all right, can't resist anymore. She's been a fucking wet blanket for years and years and years and years and years, years, years. And I think that we've all been rooting for her, I think, and trying to hope that she gets into a better situation and like, well, she's a wet blanket, but it's because she's miserable

because Kyle's making her miserable. But now I'm like, it's just maybe who you are. Yeah, I mean, I do think Kyle has been making her miserable. And she does have reason to a wet blanket sometimes, but it's like someone's making an effort towards you for a whole, like we've seen now is the effort quitting DJing and, you know, for him to win, he has to quit DJing and be home every night. And he's like, no, I'm earning money. And I'm not going to do that. And this is my dream and blah, blah, blah. So that should be the long and the short of it. This is what I want. This is not what you want. But instead, it's like, but you won't quit dingeing over and over. And he won't. So that's kind of his fault too. So I'm not saying it's

either one of their fault. But this whole thing of like the whole summer you see him kind of like trying to like have a good weekend with Amanda and trying this and then her just rebuffing, rebuffing. Of course, on the other hand, you see Kyle still is even at the summer house going out every night after a fight instead of staying here to talk, you know? So like I can see her point. It's just like, uh, one of you is at least trying to be pleasant and one of you is not. And as an audience member, I'm just, would rather be around the person who's more pleasant because you're just making me fucking crazy at this point. Either shit or get off the pot.

Like honestly. Jeez. It's like, it's like, like, when people are in, are unhappy, they, uh, they act in different ways and Amanda's form is just acting away. That's like, like that's fun. Although Kyle getting wasted and throwing shit out of doors also not fun. Okay, they're both miserable. Congratulations to us.

We got to the bottom of it. Um, so now we go back to Sabrina. and Sabrina goes up to Sierra and she's like and Sierra's like, where have you been? She's, well, so Ben just told me that he loves me. Oh my God.

And Sierra's like, really? He loves you? I know he loves me. And then two hours ago, flashback, Sabrina Bell, I love you and you're my person and I don't want to be with anyone else unless you don't pick up the socks

you left on the floor. Could you please pick those up a little late? do your chores and I will love you forever young lady all right and say oh my god let's go make a baby oh see how quick that went see how quick it's like my fear is that if I say I love you then all of a sudden we're going to be wrapped up in a relationship and getting way too intense no that's crazy let's make a baby so they's immediately like we're on in the city okay I'm I'm already making my steak in the next cell. Baby time in the city. Here we come, baby. Yeah. So then Sierra's like, well, you've been waiting so long for that. She's, I know. And honestly, you were the first person

I thought of after he said it. I was like, where the fuck of Sierra? She's my most famous friend. She has to know this news. You've been the biggest blessing in my life. Oh, my God. These past 10 days of knowing you, I've been changed forever. Sierra, I didn't need as much time as Ben needed to tell me. I love you. I love you. Let's have a baby together. She's like, okay. I love you back. The woman you are, the woman you want to be. I love you, Sierra. I love you. Okay, you don't have to do Jeremy Gwire to me.

I do. I'll be the Bonnie Hunt to your Re-Salwaker any day. Oh, geez. I just change the roles. Okay. Just send the car over the cliff. Just let me get out first. Wait a minute. That's not how that ends. Doesn't Jay Moore drive a cliff off the head? No.

Falma Louise. Thelma, just scratch out, Felma. Show me the I love yous. Show me the I love yous. Did you know a human brain weighs eight pounds? Help me, help you, make me famous. You had me at hello, Sierra, you had me in hello. Just call me Angel of the morning.

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