Watch What Crappens - #3489 The Valley S3E19 Part Two: Hort Feelins and Short Dealins

Episode Date: August 6, 2026

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Well, hello and welcome to watch what happens. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.

All right, well, after allegedly sending a cease and letter to Michelle a dreading legal action against anyone who spoke about her publicly about her, And then finally matching with a dragon and flying all over Westeros, Jesse's girlfriend Lacey got in the mix this year. And this time, she actually signed a release and agreed to be filmed. Let's welcome Lacey. Okay, so here comes Lacey. I was surprised by a lot of this segment that she had so much stuff with Michelle. Michelle had so much resentment stuff towards Lacey.

I thought they were in a better place. But, I mean, that's just the way these reunions go, which is that basically everyone, like, grows and evolves and, like, makes nice over the course of the season, but then everyone watches the season and gets mad all over again. And then the reunion, they come in furious at each other. Yeah. So, Michelle on Lacey being cast, she felt like, well, I did not even know that she was gumming until actual filming. and so I felt like I was but on the spot, but I did the best I good. Okay, and regarding the party last year that Lacey came to,

what's that restaurant called? Yamashiro. Michelle, we saw some self-footage of an argument that you had with Lacey. What was that argument about? The best thing that happened last season, it wasn't even on camera. This end fight with Lacey. Damn it. I know.

Thank you, Jasmine, for getting that one brief clip. So Michelle's like, well, Well, you only saw a very small clip out of everything that actually helped you. And in that moment, sitting in the bar with Brittany and she had been drinking and stuff. And she came up to me and she wanted to have a conversation and I said, this is not that time or the place. I mean, why would you have a conversation at a place like a bar with bar stools and beverages where people come together and they clearly don't have conversations? This is not the time or the place. Also at a party at Yamashiro that you were throwing so everybody could be more peaceful and calm.

And she gave everybody a crystal member. She was like, this is your own kind of grisdol for you to find your own spiritual bees. That it ends with somebody being like, can we make peace? And her being like, Vogov, get out of my personal space, bitch. I'm about to joke you with some amethyst. Exactly. But that being said, I actually totally am on T. Michelle for that situation because all that.

legal stuff or whatever but also like it was their show and it's like oh lacy doesn't want to shoot lacy doesn't want to shoot but then she comes to the she comes to the set anyway and it's just like i would also especially going through that fresh divorce dealing with jesse even if it is misdirected rage at jesse i say like jesse should not brought lacey there like you know what so i agree i was to michel yeah i was too um and i agree with you i think that this season ms leasy has seemed pretty nice. I mean, even if she's faking it, she does a pretty good job of being like, okay, yes, I'm dating Jesse, but that doesn't mean we have to be enemies. And Jesse is an asshole, and I hear everything that you're saying. But I think that even with somebody being like

that, the fact that they're still standing by Jesse, who is still such a monster, just listen to everything he's saying during this reunion. Like, my, she, my daughter was heartbroken by this and that, Michelle introducing men. Who knows? God knows how many men she's been dating, introducing to my daughter. So I think at some point it's like, okay, you're nice, but you're also standing by and supporting this fucking asshole. So. Yeah. I, um, I thought Lacey was going to be more like, um, Ali, the girlfriend on McB Dynasty, like this big fake, like here for TV.

She's not, now that she's not, decides he'll be on the show. She's going to be like over the top and mugging for camera time. And she's actually like not like that at all. I think she's been a really pleasant surprise. And, but I feel like, I don't know, I really sided with a lot of Michelle's rage. I feel like Jesse is a manipulator. I feel like Michelle is just like just trying to get through this divorce. She's willing to pay nearly $400,000 to just put this all behind her, you know?

And like, I think Lacey is being actually pretty chill and pretty much. nice but at this but like i understand michel's like i just don't want to see either of you right now like she needs to heal michel needs to go away and heal she needs to go away date someone like unreasonably famous that doesn't make sense the context of the show and then come back uh hopefully in one piece and be okay and be ready to move on but like i understand it's like you can't just like i just feel i feel like i understand michel's frustration that like you're forcing laced down my throat and the worst part is that she's actually okay and now I'm really now I look like the real asshole in the situation and you're the asshole but now I look like

the asshole because I'm not accepting Lacey like fuck you fuck both of you guys for putting me in this position where I have to be the bad guy now yeah good points and I love the messiness of Jasmine just pulling out her phone like oh really you're not gonna shoot there's a fight I'll shoot it I'll get it I'll get it I'll get it she shoots the whole thing and Lacey says why did you make Jasmine delete clip, Michelle, and she's like, because I was yelling in it. She's like, yeah, but every other person involved, like, Sheena, Brittany, both of them reached out to me, and they were like, sorry, we're wrong, but you've been the only one

who's not accountable, and I didn't come in screaming at you. Yeah, but you came into her workplace on the season finale with cameras everywhere at Jesse's behest. So, yeah, I'm kind of with you. It's like it's like Beyonce to Allie Larder in that movie obsessed like you came into my house so Brittany is like well I just remember babe bang and you guys and you got like it was like a lot you know and Lacey yeah Lacey's just like you know I I want to be on the mom's side you know et cetera et cetera et cetera and Michelle's like it's just really hard to do that the next day you know

you called me and you said you told me exactly how our relationship was going to be. And Lacey's like, no, I didn't. She's like, yes, you did. And Andy's like, did you thread in her? And she's like, I just, you know, I sent her a season to says months prior, and I stand by my season to assess. She was like, and that's our problem. The next day, you yelled at me on the phone and he said, this is how it's going to be, okay? Aaron was listening. It was on speaker. He was like, she sounds like she'll be hot in 10 years and I was like, quiet, Aaron. Yeah, and Lacey's like, I wasn't yelling. you yell. I don't yell. And she's like, yeah, well, you said, if you do not do what I say,

I will have to zoo you and I will win because I have all this money in the world. And she's like, no, that's not what I said, which I kind of believe Lacey. I mean, watching their accounts, I believe Lacey's version of this one, just watching how they both act. Because Michelle's like, we weren't, there was no yelling at this party. What are even talking about? Brittany was everybody yelling? She's like, well, I'll just remember having to like stand between you two so so you know like a fight wouldn't break out so it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial that said um i also mt michel for somebody calling you and being like listen we had a problem but this is how it's going to be like we're going to be nice to

each other we're going to be civil and it's like no like i'm not ready to like have some peaceful kumbaya situation with you lady and it's not going to be on your terms it's going to be on my terms so um so andy's like michelie said that lazy is unstable and chaotic do you still believe this she's like i do and lazy's like your perception of me like to be completely frank means nothing oh who's frank what is this we're talking about frank drummond it's like well the only person you've had been chaotic has been you and you're projecting and you project because you hate your husband and i get it i your husband too. We all do. I don't know. He's a good lay. So you project because you're mad at your life and your own finances, which is basically a sudden strike line. Yeah, this was like a much

calmer way of a sudden stride. This was not, this wasn't great. Boo. Boo on that one. You're projecting because you're mad at your own life and your own finances. Your husband, your boyfriend, is part of the reason those finances suck. Lady. Yeah. Did you not hear the $300,000 loan part? Yeah, so bringing that is a low, I think. So she's like, you know, and you have every, and Michelle's like, I'm not mad at my life. I love my life. And she's like, well, you do now because like you have a new fabulous rich boyfriend,

basically. She says, you have a new fabulous thing. But I think she meant like, oh, yeah, now you're great because you're marrying a rich guy. And she's like, you met him in February and you started having Zeggs with him in February 24, three months after our divorce. and I went back and reading text messages. It was so dramatic how he treated me. And Lacey's like, yeah, but him treating you bad doesn't give you a free pass to attack me

and lie about me and call me a bitch on camera and make up things about me and my ex. She's like, well, I do think that behind cameras, you are a bitch to me. And she's like, well, you're lying to be a victim. I am not lying. And that's why I get triggered. She's like, all right, how many seasoned assists have you sent in your lifetime, Lacey? She's like, one. Okay, Wander.

That's the only season to assist. Law is like, that's the only season to sys you've ever since. Oh my God. On my life in my life. Sorry, Ben. What were you saying? On my life in my life. 50 cent, making a quick 50 cent joke, because why not?

Yeah, on my life, in my life. And Michelle's like, now we know who the liar is. And Lacey's like, you guys, you know, I'm getting gaslit for two years. I'm the weirdo for not wanting to film. I date a guy for six weeks. Your boyfriend filmed, and he's not even here. Like, your boyfriend's not even here. So you got your daughter attached to someone and filmed with him.

So, and that guy's not even still around. So why am I getting shit for being on this scene? I don't care. I didn't want you to film. What I had a problem with is that you were saying that I couldn't say anything and you're the one trying to zoom. It's so hard to reason with somebody when you're like, just like, Like we're just like never going to see eye to eye. You know, well, we won't.

And you know why? Because you called me a liar and I don't appreciate people who yell at me behind closed doors. I didn't, though. Yes, you did. Well, I got the impression you guys were getting along. God, that was pretty boring. But so was this. I'm so conflicted.

And Michelle, yeah, good. There's like this, they started talking about there was like how the day. that Lacey met Isabella. And so Lacey says, oh, the day she met Michelle, she brought Isabella over a basket for Valentine's Day from her daughter's ballet group, and she had no idea that there was a rule about not meeting people. And so Michelle found out, Michelle was screaming in front of the house

and had like a scene in the street where she was throwing stuff in the middle of the road or whatever. And Michelle, you know, Michelle, Michelle doesn't exactly deny it, but she's like, no, I was angry at Jesse, not with you. He's like, why are you talking about that one day? I mean I love when

I do love when Michelle just like flies off the handle like when you do that drink at Jesse and then like last season out of nowhere it was great that's a salt that's a salt on Danny Bucco

Michelle is like you know you're talking about things that don't matter and so they're just going back and forth about this like this this is bad because she's like

you were in the house I wasn't even talking to you I was angry at Jesse it had nothing to do with you and she's like okay Were you screaming in the middle of the street and was your daughter crying and did your neighbors want to call the police? Oh, God.

This is like- Lacey, I don't like this coming from Lacey. And I've liked her for most of the season. But this is taking someone like in their fresh divorce, like, pain and shit and then using that stuff against them on national TV. I don't like that. So Lacey is like, you know, by the way, and you texting me for. separate occasions that I have saying you were going to ruin my life and expose me. And Michelle's like, I never sent that.

The rest of the cast, like, yeah, you did. We've seen the text. She's like, I never said that. They're like, yeah, you text it her. You said you're going to ruin her life. Yeah. And Jasmine's like, well, some of the people have seen the text. I'm just telling you.

You might not want to lie about that one because we've seen the text, Michelle. And Lacey's like, just admit it. Just set yourself free. And she's like, oh, my God. Well, I don't know why you're mad at, like, stupid things from the past. Michelle, my God. You're not. And Lacey's basically, you're not doing yourself any favors either.

Oh, my God. She's like, you know what? Like, you know, like, she's like, why can't you just be like, you know what? I was mad. I was going to an divorce. I was crazy. I hate you. And then I'd be like, okay, good.

Thanks. You got it out. Like, I understand it. But you're like, she's basically mad that Michelle's not being. I'm honest with the situation right now. She's like, but I saw your anger when you were throwing shit in the road. I mean, I'm a mom too. And I have to co-parent.

And it's hard. And I hate it. And I will always take your side as a mom. And you know, I said it. And it's literally on camera in the office of my house. Okay. So stop lying. She's got cameras everywhere.

You have, yeah, Lala's like, you have a lot of footage. Yeah, I mean, look, Michelle probably could just say, listen, I was going through a a rough time. I'm sorry it had nothing to do with you. I was just so furious and yes, I lost it. But it's also not cool for Lacey to bring up like your darkest moments from off camera in a relationship with Jesse of all people. Like you know who Jesse is. Yeah. It's just all gross. It's all kind of low. It's a little, it's sort of like veering on concern trolling. I think it's just like, Michelle right now is like a cat. Okay. You just have to put your hand down and wait for the cat to come to you. But like if you're trying to chase that cat, it's going to run.

away and maybe claw you. Like it's not like like Lacey, I understand that she's just trying to keep things smooth. I think she just has to just drop it. I'd let Michelle just do it. Because I think it's probably really annoying for Michelle that there's someone that here saying like, we could be friends, whatever. It's like it's someone telling her how to feel or who she should be friends with. And Michelle just doesn't want to hear it. Like is she just like Lacey is just an extension of Jesse right now. And I don't think that Michelle can get past that at the moment. Nor does she have to until she's ready to. Especially with the added element that this is a TV show that Lacey is coming on to.

And being like, oh, here I am, shooting with all of your friends, basically showing up at your job every day. Just be nice to me and shoot with me. And she's like, fuck no. She's like, I'm under no obligation to be nice to you. Under none. And if anything, she's probably like, Jesse made my life hell for the past year while I was also grieving the death of my mother. And you could have, like, stepped in and told him to, like,

to pull it back in, to rein it in. And he didn't do that either. Like, I'm sure she's thinking all these things. So she's just like, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to, like, talk about this. Like, just get out of my face. I'm not, I don't have to do anything. There's no friendship here that needs to be salvaged between you and I. You know, she just doesn't want it. Yeah. So Lacey's like, you know, you're not accountable. And I called you saying, please let me know if you ever need anything, I'll be on your side. And Michelle's like, well, yes, but then a month into the relationship. And Andy interrupts.

And he's like, well, wait, that is actually nice. Did she say that to you? That's so nice. And Lacey's like, yeah. And then she hung up on me and said, this is weird. And then called me back and said, Jesse's an alcoholic and you spent all our money. And I said, well, I'm not going to invalidate you, but I have not personally seen that behavior. I mean, haven't you, though?

did you not just hear jesse's story about jacks like like just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it won't happen so um uh it'll happen to you eventually it's actually more of the point anyhow so michelle's like i decided to never speak to you because it's the best well we're never going to agree on how you treated me and lacey's like i don't think we will and i'm very happy for you and i hope you get all of the things that i know you care about your monetary gains i hope you gain to get them. And Michelle's like, so that's why I've chosen to not have you there. And the laws, I don't like that. I don't like what you just said, the monetary ginsk. I don't like that. Lacey just stays so calm at all times, but the stuff she's saying is low. It's so low,

and it's got to be so infuriating to fight with somebody like that. And Lacey's like, well, I don't like you guys saying I'm paying for Jesse for the past six months. You know what? misogyny is deep in you guys good luck with that good luck with that but aren't you yeah is jesse paying for himself suddenly what has jessie been like what is what is jessie is does jesse working like i know he's a real estate person but has he been selling i don't know i don't know that lacy's not supporting that guy i'm sorry but we've all seen jesse on tv be an asshole now for three years so for you to be like oh my god you guys suggesting that i'm supporting Jesse. Well, yeah, we know that his plotline is getting an illegal, getting all this money, spending it without telling Michelle and then taking his entire family on a like a three week trip to Europe or something, Michelle said on the after show with all of that money and then making her pay half of it back on camera in order to sign divorce papers. I mean, come on, Lacey. It's not like it's just coming out of everybody's misogyny that it looks like this guy is using you for your money.

yeah so now and he's asking um uh michel if she thinks that jesse's relationships or friendships are performative um and zach will be like can i just jump in here i feel like me and christin specifically told jesse to lay off like michel for being like performative this season and i think they like both need to like lay off that because like i think they're both like changes into the jesse and i like literally facetime all the time actually no he facetimes me more and i'm like where's my monster fridge can you help me and he's like no i can't and it's like no i can't and it's like borderline harassing, but like, we talk about it all the time.

So to say it's like performative, I mean, he's like doing Oscar worthy of the performative. And, um, and he's like, Jesse's like, Andy, you know, the performative may not be the right word, but I've known Michelle for 12 years, but you don't know me. You don't know me at all. You don't even know what kind of music I like. And, um, that's crazy. How can he not know what kind of music you like? And Andy's like, Dr. Dray. Dray.

So then Jesse's like, you admitted to me in Mexico at a bar before we went to Britney's room. You said to me, I love everyone too, but you have to hate them. And that's what I've been trying to, to teach Michelle.

So Lacey is like, yeah, you did say that. But I don't think it was coaching, but you did say it. So this is back and forth about this. And Lala's like, I've got to teach, Because he's accusing Lala of saying that to Michelle. He's saying that, like, Lala was telling Michelle how to act to people.

And Lala's like, I don't, I didn't tell her to hate everybody. Like, what are you talking about? Um, so then we go over to Hannah from Hannerton says, Jasmine, you've thrown more shade and confessionals into your friend's faces. What's up with that? And she's like, well, I mean, like, I mean, I get shut down by this group all the time. So like in confessional, like, that's a good spot for me to talk shit about people. Okay?

So thanks for your, thanks for your question. Hannerton from Hannah, whatever. Hannah from Vermont. I love that. That's like two weeks in a row where the question, the questioner has been shaded by the person. Because last week it was like, Lindsay, being like, well, whoever from wherever you are, get out my face. shoes here comes one right now now we're back from a commercial break again and and is like welcome back for the past few years Kristen and Janet have been mortal enemies and this year

their relationship was stuck in the weeds before film even started even a THC laced piece pipe couldn't take the problem did to bother not friends anymore everyone so Janet well why so why do you think that they can well you guys can't be friends, Kristen. Well, Kristen said something at Bravo Pond. Jason and Janet will be the next couple divorced. Yeah, so that's like, oh my God, how daring Janet and Jason are just like, oh, my God, I can't believe someone would say that about us. She's like, oh, yeah, I was just like, I was asked a question.

I don't like Janet, so I just said Janet. Sorry, it was shady. And Jason's like, yeah, you don't like it. You don't like us. That's why you said it. She's like, yeah, pretty much. Okay, well, Janet, how did that make it? you feel. She's like, well, I mean, honestly, I was happy because the couples that Kristen supports

don't normally end up together. Jesse's like, well, she didn't support Michelle and I in season one very well. And Jason's like, I mean, yeah, I mean, actually if you go through the list, yeah, it actually like pans out. And Chris like, well, I don't support couples. I support my friends. And whatever makes them happy. And you were holding on to that line, weren't you? You were really holding on to that. You were like, I'm ready to bring this line out at the reunion. And Jason's like, actually, I hadn't heard that line. Oh, God, Jason.

Okay. Jason's just going to sit there like, that's what makes me crazy about this show, too, when the couples are like, yeah, honey, you get them. You get them, honey. It's like, oh, geez, it's annoying. Just let people have their own individual fights. Like, yeah, I didn't hear. I never said that.

I don't really understand the line. I don't, the couples that Kristen supports don't usually end up together. What is she talking about? Because she supports Danny and Nia and they're still together. and janet and jason were supporting brittany and jacks until the very very very very end yeah i don't know i think janet was just trying to be like flippant trying to be like sassy and it did sort of sound like it was a either either just an off-the-cuff dumb line or just poorly planned other line i don't know so um and he's like well zach and brittie's house just before san Diego you said the words

didn't mean much were you you were looking for actions so what actions were you looking for from Janet and Zach's like um all I want is like over a period of time slowly let's build that relationship back instead of like over

like the top performative like not to use that word but like sorry it is what it is like she tends to like ingratiate herself by either giving gifts or doing something and it's like a manipulative tactic and like instead of just being like yourself it's like you have to do that Like constantly, and I just love the idea of like Zach being anti over the top performative when like everyone on their show is so over the top.

You got like Brittany walking around with giant sacks of like goo coming out of her body. You have Zach himself getting bonked in the head with a traffic light and going to a gay bar with a rapping. Like everyone is so over at the top on this show with everything that they do. It's true, but it's also kind of annoying that everybody acts like what Zach is saying is so crazy. why don't you like Janet? Well, she came in, she didn't like anybody. She didn't like any of us last year. She was saying that I was like going to harm her baby, you know, like with the stalking

thing. Like, I'm afraid to have him in my baby moon or all this other stuff. And then the next season she comes in, she's like, I'm going to make up with everybody. Here's the apology. I mean, it does come off as super fake. It's like nobody wants to shoot with you. So you're going to make an effort to be nice to everybody on the show. However, you are on a reality show, and these are about people fighting and then making up and shooting together and then fighting again later.

So when it becomes completely impossible, you know, it's like your side, Zach's side, Zach, Kristen, Nia. They're like, we're going to do the classic housewives icing somebody out. But you can't do that. You know, we've talked about this before. You can't do that if they still have to cast not icing them out. So at some point, somebody's got to go. So coming up with all this, like, well, you know, her sorrows mean nothing because they're just performative and manipulative because she wants to shoot. Well, yeah, you're on a TV show.

They have to do it. At some point, you guys just got to do it. I think Janet is very clunky in how she ingratiates herself with people. I think she is like, she is like, okay, we're going to be friends. We're going to be friends. You want to come off. You want to play a pizza box or whatever? Like, she's clunky, you know?

But I think Zach is also clunky in how he forgives. I think they're just like two clunky people. And I think that like, because there's also a part of me that says, you guys had a conversation that you're going to be friends again. So just like be friends. You know, it's like, it's a very kind of Shannon Bador to be like, well, I, well, just because I forgave to him right, doesn't mean that we're friends overnight. And then you have to sit through like social interaction over social interaction where they're just totally disconnected.

It's like, wait, I thought we were friends. No, not yet. You're, you're not in jail, but you're like in your head. halfway house now so it's like this inching and so I do think it's realistic that if a friendship suffers a major setback like a fight it doesn't come back to the the true intensity it was right away but I also do think that like once you have a conversation of like hey let's be friends again like you know I do think you so he did though go out I think it he did though but Janet's also she's rushing it she's rushing it too much she needs to sort of she just

she just needs to like chill out a little bit trust the process as much as much They're acting like Zach wouldn't accept an apology or anything like that, but he did, and he was being nice. But then they had a problem with him because Kristen Inea didn't like that he was jumping back on the Janet train. But then Janet and that side was like, well, you know, then why are you like, why are we not best friends again? And then why are you letting Kristen and Nia manipulate you? He's like, I'm, but I am trying to be friendly with you again. So it's like if he does accept her apology and then he's nice to her in public settings, they're like, oh, they immediately start shit talking Kristen and Ian saying he's being manipulated and this and that, which I don't even know that they're wrong on that. But it's not like he didn't accept the apology. He did. You guys can't accept that he accepted the apology. It's like he didn't accept it enough to your liking. It's like he didn't start calling you every day. He did accept the apology and moved on and you guys still have a fucking problem with it. He's really the bell of the ball.

I mean, look at this. Like, the factions are fighting over him. Good for Zach. Yeah. I think in a real world setting, they would probably just like, it would come together naturally. But like, on a reality show, I think everything is warped because you're forced to spend time with people. You're not ready to spend time with. And you're also, you have people weighing in about the state of your friendship all the time from all different angles.

And it's a pain in the ass. I think, ultimately, my judgment is. is Janet has to cool her jets a little bit. Zach has to sort of like chill out a little bit. And he should be slightly more open as long as he said he wants to be friends. He should like not listen to what Kristen and Nia have to say about it tune out the noise. And you guys can focus on it next season. And you guys can come together or not come together.

Yeah. And in reality, these people just wouldn't hang out. So Zach, basically it's like the whole our Christian, are you being manipulated by Danny and Ian not to be friends? And Zach is saying, no, it's not true. Even at Jasmine's wedding, Jason was like, oh, I guess you pitched the wrong couple that you thought would be fan favorites this season.

Whoops. And he's like, number one, I don't think like that. And anyone that's my actual friend and knows me, knows I do not care what the fans think. And Janet's like, I think, whatever. And then Chris, are you fucking kidding me, Janet? You don't know him at all then.

And Zach is like, if anything, I'm definitely an engine and like not a wagon. So. Okay. I don't. What an adorable little metaphor he just doing it there. He's like, I chew, chew, choose me. I'm a horse, not a cart. I'm a dining cart.

What can I say? So then. Now a Christian is at. why she's going so hard on Janet when she was canceled, and she had to work herself back from getting so much fan backlash. And, you know, going back to Vanderpump Rules, she slept with Jacks, and just season one of the Valley, she revealed Michelle was having an affair,

and you want everyone to forgive and forget, so why can't you do the same for Janet? And she's like, um, I want to see evolution, not fake change. Yeah, that's what I want to really see. You know, because I want to see. I put in a lot of work, especially during the Vanderpump days, and over a year and a half with no friendships. And I went to therapy and I proved myself overtime with actions that Stasi, Katie, and everyone decided on their own time to let me back in and cuckaw. And I never forced it on anybody and they saw evolution.

And I don't see that with you. Like I've been waiting to see that, but like I just don't see it. Where are your Fleetwood Mac albums? Answer me that. Even just a Stevie Nick solo album. I'll be happy with that, but I see none of it. Yeah, I mean, Kristen does have a point as far as Vanderpump rules when she was on the outs and they were like, oh, hell no. No, no, no, no, no, no fucking Kristen for me.

It did take a long time, but, you know, A, that was a decade ago. And B, just because you had to go through it, doesn't mean everybody else has to go through it. It's very much like, I walked through the snow for 10 miles to go to school. You're lucky to have a bus. I'm like, okay. So, while I was like, yeah,

but nobody gets Janet a chance. I think that's the problem. And Jason's like, yeah, well, she gives a gift and like,

it's manipulative, apparently. Like, Janet can't even give a guft at anyone. Well, Jason, it's been a few years

of Janet taking heat from several people in the group with this audience that must be stressful on you. Would you like me to give you a massage

after the show? And Jason's like, well, I think that like going into season three, it really, like, truly felt like

people were thinking, like you know if i want to score like all pretty points with the audience like it's better to be like an adversary adversarial role with janet uh like you just like refuse to actually like make up and move forward janet and you guys did like make up on camera this past season and say like hey we're gonna move forward so you guys were like having jokes and this train and everything and then like think things are going to a better place and then like you would get like close then fully pull away and say like actually screw janet i mean okay so then janet's like well and then talk about me talk shit about me in group chats apparently god like janet

doesn't have multiple group chats talking shit about everybody. This cast is so hypocritical. They all make me crazy. They all make me crazy. So Lacey's like, can I say one thing? Because I know I'm a plus one and I don't even go here. But I disagree. Like, I think that he loves Janet deep down.

And, like, they have so much history and so much emotions. And he's just having an emotional response. And I don't think it's because he, he cares what Barbara and Virginia from Minnesota think. All right. Okay, thank you, Lacey, for that insight. Well, before San Diego, Lacey's old Chris and I need at the costume shop that every issue she's never had with Michelle is driven butt from by Janet.

So how about that, Lacey? Lacey's like, no, I didn't just say Janet. They cut that. I said a lot of different people's names like Michelle, Michelle, Michelle and Janet, Michelle and Michelle, Janet, and Michelle, Michelle, Janet, Janet, Michelle, Janet, Janet, Michelle. So a lot of people's names. And then comes the bus to run over Sheena. Jason's like, yeah, Sheena wasn't here to film, so I didn't say her name.

John was like, yeah, a lot of the things Lacey said I was doing were things that Sheena was doing. Like looking her up and calling mutual friends and doing all of that. Yeah, the Baywatch thing. By the way, who was the Baywatch guy you were hooking up with? I just want to know if I've jerked off to their picture on Instagram. Which one was it? And Lacey's like, I have season to says. It's like, what? No, I'm being facetious, Andy, but someone tell me what it is.

Was it another David? Chokichi or Charvei? Come on, let me know. And she's like, no, it's private. So, Kristen, Andy's like, well, Chris, I said that David Hasselhoff did block her, which is hilarious. She's like, yeah, his wife blocked me. Like, I was, so I was really upset about it. Oh, my goodness. So, um, uh, Kristen, if you had to distill it down, because I know that there was a moment where Lala said she didn't get where you got the hate for Janet came from and Chris like it's not hate it's just disdain okay just state thanks for clarifying that much better knowing it's just disdain and not hate can you share does it boil down to one thing it's like

no it's not one thing no it's just a lot of things and the way that she treated Zach who's like my rider fucking die and Janet's like well what if I done to Zach? Janet. You just invited him from the first ever group trip, the only gay guy in the group, you disinvited him, and then you made it sound like he was going to come and stab you in the middle of the night. And so, like, I think that's like a fair thing for him to hold a bit of a grudge about. Yeah, and it's not like Zach was so Mr. Innocent with Janet either. It's just, Janet's like, what? What if I ever tend to Zach? Okay. Okay. And he's like, oh my God, you just have to get that one last dig.

He's like, but I want an example, though. And he's like, you don't let things go. And I was like, yeah, but that's you too, Zach. Okay, well, maybe you're the same person. Wow. Zach and Janet, exactly the same. They kind of are. I mean, the thing is this also, like,

Janet's gays are like pink crocs, right? And Zach is a monster fridge, mourning a monster fridge gay. And that's difficult. I think I think like having those different types of gays orbiting the same lady That's that's that's it doesn't it's it's it's like the the center doesn't hold So I understand why this is ultimately never gonna come back together Yeah and the other her real life gaze seem to be the yes gaze

You know took yes yes Janet you're so right yes girl. Oh my god they are terrible You know like that I think she does a podcast with one but yeah they're like yes gays and I think Zach is not going to always be a S-K. He's a monster fridge gig. Which is a very specific kind. Yeah. So what else is resolved that you can get out right now? She's like, I have nothing else.

I've moved on. I've moved on. I mean, I haven't have new hair. And I've tried, and I'm here when you're ready. Okay. The latest thing is Zach went on. What show was he on? He was, I'm so sorry.

I just read about it on Vanderpud Recaps on Instagram. So thank you for your service as usual. But he was talking about how Janet just disinvited him to her birthday party. She's having a big birthday party in L.A. And he was invited, but then she disinvited him. And she's like, I can't have somebody who's talked shit about me, be it my birthday party, Zach. And he's like, oh, God, you're having like a 200-person influencer party. You've invited, you know, everybody in town.

Like, stop acting like it's some special. But they're still playing. these little things with each other like oh really well then you can't come to my birthday oh yes um by the way we that was as good a time as ever so we have to give a special special you know you know shout out to zach for actually doing something very very cool someone even say heroic which is that he wore an ice out pin to the reunion and i really really respect that and that was very cool that he did that yeah he wore a full ice out suit to the crappies, didn't he? That's right.

Didn't it say like eyes on the front and out on the back or something like that? That's right. I really forgot about that. That's really, that's super, super cool that he did that. So, um, Danny, how do we get to Danny here? So they're like, oh my God, are Janet and Zach going to hug now? Oh, my gosh. That's just make outs. And so well, so Janet and Zach have this kind of like light hug. And Danny's like, what is happening? I don't get it. What's happening? And he was like, reunions are forgetting to better places with people, Daniel. Daniel, can you look at me? Can you look at your wife?

We're going to a better place. Come back, Daniel, come back. Dan's like, now you have to get your phone out. There's no place that's better. Now you have to get your phone out and follow me, Zach. So, uh, welcome back. Now Brittany at lunch got frustrated with Zach because she wasn't allowed to have a different opinion. No, she got.

They got in a fight because Brittany started harping on him about how mean he is to Janet for three years. I love Zach. He's my brother. I would talk about all the stuff that's happened. But like whenever I said that, that dinner is because there just been like a lot of times where like I just really screamed. He like really screamed to me and like really yelled at me. And like he had never known that before we like started filming and stuff like that. So that's like what I meant by that.

Like it's just like somebody are my feelings. And so Zach, You don't know what I've been through. You don't know what I'm going through right now. oh my oh my okay even when we're like not at 100 like we're at 100 like I'm never like not her sis I mean like she's not my sister I mean like you know what I'm saying like we're like family okay but like when she says like I'm like not Kentucky Zach I'm like what part of me crying over a monster refrigerator says I'm not Kentucky Zach okay I think there's like parts where like because I walked

on eggshells for like a lot of the things and they like that you know or I get I let a lot of things like go that did like hurt me like for instance like her and jack's relationship I think I speak up a little bit more to defend myself because I realize I'm on a TV show and I need to speak up. So like, I don't know. I think that can sometimes come off different. Drop it up. Jesus Christ. Just say we're always close even when we're not.

And she's like, well, I can't say nothing. I'm always the one getting talked over. It's because I have an opinion. Yeah, but I get yelled at and even on the other side of the room, I get yelled at it. I didn't do nothing. I'm going through a lot right now. And he's like, well, I have an opinion and you have an opinion. So, like, unlike me and Jasmine, who were always on different pages, like, it's a new thing for our friendship, you know, and, you know, that's Rocky for Brittany.

She's not used to me having an opinion. I just want to be able to have those talks with you and, like, have those disagreements without feeling like I can't, like, my, my poet's been like, can't. Like, I'm not allowed to express myself because that, like, that did happen like many times. It's like, okay, cool. Are we done with this? Okay. Chris, so you told Brittany and Lala, then Nia, was the one that was guilt-troping Zach for being friendly with Janet.

But then like when you asked, you said it, no, you denied it. What's going on? Kristen's like, well, I watched it. And I don't know if I was like worked up or seeing red or like not hearing or I don't know because like I know I said it. But like I don't know why I said it. Oh. Okay. Okay.

Where to be accountable. Um, so Brittany's like, yeah. Well, that moment like, like, Kristen turned to me and I was like, well, that moment. Like, Kristen turned to me. I was like, what? Because I was telling the truth. And then Zach believe pristine, do know how much I'll been through? You know, like suddenly I'm wrong. And I just really hurt my, really hurt my feelings because a lot happened, you know, and he showed what was actually said and I wasn't lying. Okay. And, um, we know. She just admitted it. She's like,

why am I constantly the one that's got fingers pouring at whenever I'm not even doing nothing? Oh, for Christ. Well, you haven't had my bag. Oh, my car over. your back through. I've never want your back through through. I meant I had and he's like, okay, we're going to break for lunch because I don't want to hear about you too. He's like, well, I know, but I had a conversation with you when we moved past day. So what else have I done that was like not let's not have your back. Come on now. And Andy's like, okay, we're going to, it's lunch. Lunchtime lunch, lunch, lunch, lunch. Oh, oh Andy, right when you get me started.

You just got me started. Uh, so now it's time for lunch. But don't worry. They're all, will be two more weeks of this well next week will be well normally i would say next week will be christin and luke and the baby but is next week going to be danny and nea because they're yeah i think it's going to be christin luke next week and part three it's going to be danny and nia and getting all into that because that's what we're really waiting for danny that was the whole season entire hour yeah but like he didn't he he he'd feel the not a single question except for how is he doing today but it's going to come i think it's be part three and he was still a little asshole like two people make up and he's like what what is happening

i'm a good person here's a picture of danny just to leave you guys with leave you on a positive note here's here's danny i'm a good person sorry i forgot to take that down before i'm a good person all right everybody thanks so much for being here. Fun times. We will be back a little later with some NextGen NYC. We are not covering London this week. They air two London's in a row and we're just at capacity. It is a really good show, though. If you guys aren't watching Girl Housewives of London, check it out. Also, we've got OC coming up this week. And Sunday night is the start of Real Housewives Ultimate Girls trip, Roaring 20th anniversary. So it's a lot to watch. Keep up with it. We love you guys.

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