Watch What Crappens - #3490 Next Gen NYC S2E06: Con Games

Episode Date: August 7, 2026

Next Gen NYC heads to Bravocon. Ariana’s love intentions get murky, Shai is ostracized, and Charlie tries to convince Emira that he’s not so bad. Good luck with that. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, hello, and welcome to watch for the crappins. I'm Ronnie, and that is Ben. Hello, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Good. It's a good day because it's next gen NYC Day, season two, episode seven. Talk to my agent.

And we're on it. So we're like really on this show today. Big star turn. Huge. Ronnie got to say something along the lines of we're going to be moderating at BravoCon and then I got to say something like this and that was me on the side of a building and then but the real star the real star I mean it was cool that we had a moment we finally got to be splashed up on one of those buildings as as as we always hoped and dreamed but the big star I think has to go to you know Lars over at sexy unique podcast Lauren Kerry were also on buildings but Lara got like, I mean, she was on like literally every surface of Next Gen New York City at one moment. It was just like she started talking and then it was like, she's on the side of a building and on the side of a wall, then in a vanity mirror, then like on a car or like in a lamp, whatever. They just projected Laura all over the set.

As she is in our lives. That's how it is when I'm driving down the street. I just see Lars. Yeah, I see. It's like I'm passing a water burger. It's just a big picture of Lars looking back on me. Like you should eat those French fries. Just deservedly so.

So, you know, we got to love it. Not only that, Ben, but she made a psychic prediction on the show, which was pretty good. She's like, basically, this opens the door for Ariana to bang Charlie Zucor, which looks like it's going to happen. So, you know, shout out to our psychic friend, Lars. Psychic Friends Network. I was really excited for my line because this is what mine sounded like. It's like it's me. It's like a voice right there.

I'm wondering if they're going to show anything from our panel next week. I don't know. That'll be exciting. Yeah. I don't even remember much. I don't black a lot of it out. Yeah.

What I remember is accidentally shading Georgia like out of nowhere I remember that I think I've mentioned this on the podcast before about how I told I turned to Riley and I was I had to ask a question that was like so you didn't really believe in Georgia's you know club idea and I just interject and like it was a terrible idea I think we both we both agree with that I was totally on your side about it was a bad idea and then afterwards when I was walking at the stage I turned to Georgia I'm sorry I didn't I just shaded you out of nowhere she goes you did you did actually I said I don't

know what that was about. Well, that was a good time, as we will have today, next gen, NYC. If you want this on video, it's at patreon.com, along with ad-free listening and bonus episodes. So go check that stuff out. And thanks for being here as usual. It's funny because I remember when at that day, we were thinking, why is everybody kind of anti-shy-shy? I don't remember if they said anything that was anti-Shye or if it was just an attitude that nobody liked Shai. But I remember we were talking about like, what did Shai do?

Like, what could Shai possibly have done to piss everybody off? And now we're at this part in the season. And I still really don't see why they hate Shai so much. Like, I love Shai. I think shy is great. And this is the famous last words. I'm actually a little surprised, Ronnie, that you haven't weighed in within. Oh, you just wait.

I think that he's a douchebag. Like, I feel like, like, I'm waiting for that ball to drop. I think Shy seems great. I think he seems sweet. Yeah, I feel like he, like, pays attention. He's focused. I think he, like, tries to do the right thing. I really like Shy so much.

Well, obviously. I love the show. Oh, sorry. Obviously, his, you know, the obvious things that he's done that have pissed people off are, you know, going to Hudson. and being like, oh, my God, Ariana. Like, Ariana is, you know, probably going to hook up at this other new guy, this new cheeseball that's on the show.

And now it's like, okay, well, he only did that because he was trying to block both of those things because he liked Ariana himself. So I guess there's some, you know, I see, I see little annoyances, but for everybody to just be like, ew, shy, yeah, I don't like shy. I'm not going to do his, I'm not going to help him out with Instagram modeling.

I'm too busy. And yeah, fuck shy. I'm thinking about myself before shy. I think that's shitty. Like, if anybody else was on Bravo, you know, anybody else that happened to on Bravo, people would be standing up for them. And I don't know. Shy hasn't really done anything that bad.

I don't get it. Yeah, just as for shy. I like the stuff that he's sewing. Also, another thing, in retrospect, when we did the panel, they put a mirror all the way off to the side. And actually, she's been very central to season. I think season one, she was a little bit more ancillary, and Brooks was very central. But like, this season, I feel like, I feel like Amira has been front and center.

I think she's been, she's taken over Brooks's role. She's actually almost become our narrator, our central character. So it is kind of funny that in the panel, she was all the way off to the side. And also, I think, I think, Gia was directly to my right? Who was directly to your, or was it Georgia who was directly to my right? I think George, I don't know. But either way, Amira should have, like, seeing how this season has been unfolding, Amira should have been a little more center on the stage, where we were.

Close to the stars. All right, so we start with the headlines. Oh, my God, what's next? Next Gen NYC? The New York Times even whilst everybody wants to know. The whole cast is coming to BravoCon. And then we see Shy on the train with sitting next to an older lady. And she's like, who's filming you?

He said it's a reality show. And she says, I don't know what reality is referring to. Join the club. That shy just sits there and has a conversation with this sweet older lady is great. So he says that basically he got fired from his corporate art job because he's on reality TV. Please tell me that his corporate art job was working for that same douchebag who ran the gallery on gallery girls. Oh, that would be perfect. Eli, what's his face?

And then we see some more, like, crazy people on the sides of buildings. And it's us. The crazy people are us. It's Ben and Ronnie on the sides of buildings. I'm in a real moment. I was going to say, here's a surreal moment in our notes where the note is Ronnie, colon. This weekend at BravoCon, we are moderating the next gen, New York City panel. There you are, Ronnie.

You made it into our notes as a character. on the show. So Shai's like, yeah, BravoConn's coming up. I'm like, whatever the hell that is. Like, watching reality TV. I grew up watching Survivor. And my grandma was like, you know that's fake, right? But then I'm in it.

And I'm like, and no, it's not fake. I'm like literally hungry. He's like, it's a real show. It's kind of funny because this entire episode is about going to BravoCon. It's kind of meta. And so Shai is still not getting phone calls back. And then Brooks, he's like, Brooks and Eva are just like not responding to me about the photo shoot at all. And like then on top of that, like, I don't think Ariana and Liam are very happy with me.

And like I was supporting Hudson. And then like upset at Ariana. And the next thing you know, like Hudson's eating like Zach speeds on his private jet. So he's basically like Hudson was supposed to have my back at this thing and he's not even going to be there. Yeah. Hudson's not your real friend. He's some billionaire

And he has He is super insufferable With all those Instagram posts Like yeah Yeah It's like fur coat

To the grab That money baby Like his big diamonds Everywhere Congrats Your daddy is rich So now We see previews

Of the BravoCon And Ariana Is nervous And Meredith's like Oh come on A true bravo Lembermy And then Brooks and Amira are talking.

They're telling us that they're up for a Bravo this year. And Amira's like, yeah, we're up for like rookie of the year. He's like, oh, my God, we want. It's like, no, we're nominated our whole show. Like, I'm so shook. It's crazy. It's funny that they're going on the Oscar tours, you know? They're like, oh, my God.

It's like, we've been nominated for not. You were nominated for a Bravo show at a Bravo show. Run like a Bravo award at a bravoish. You know what I mean? It's like your boss is said that you could win an award. And then we see Gio, she's waiting for a subway, and there's a headline saying how Teresa was on Jeff Lewis and was like teasing like a reunion and everything. With Melissa and Joe.

It's like, oh, they're going to reconnect. It's like all the hype going to BravoCon. And then Ava, Ava trips on camera. And she's like, embarrassing, guys, what's going on? And she's like not doing well after the breakup with hook. I mean, RIP, hook of a, or is that Ava, Avouk, Abook, RIP, I think it's Hukaba. And there's, you know what, she's not going to stay in her at that penthouse. What's Hukah?

She is going to move out. It's there a couple name that I invented, Hook, Ava. Oh. Or actually it could be Huava. Whoava. Whoava. It sounds like a British person saying whoever. Whoava.

Avook. Right? Avook. Avook? Avook. Okay. Are our candidates are Abuq? Huava and hookava.

Avo. Like and subscribe and leave a comment on which one's your favorite. Either way, RIPA, all those names. All those portmanteaus are done. So she's still looking for an apartment. It's like really hard without like having a penthouse to live anymore. I don't have Hook's a penthouse. So like it's going to be really hard like paying rent.

in like a non-pettenhouse apartment. It sucks. So Ariana is taking her motorcycle ride with Liam. It's like, yeah, I'm basically like do everything. It's like this thing. Ride this motorcycle right into a fire battle. Yeah. It's like the same motorcycle that Bruce Willis drove and Pulp Fiction,

except totally different one, but they both have two wheels in a seat. But yeah, I'm pretty much a Pulp Fiction. I love Tarantino. I'm a director, producer now. I'm a predator, as they say. producer, editor, director, actor. It's actually a predator, editor. But you know what I'm saying? I do everything.

One man machine. Anyway, that's cool. And Ariana's like, I do like him, but Austin's like, you're going to marry him. You're going to marry him. So who knows, you guys? And then we see her on the phone with Hudson. And she's like,

did you let them know that you're not going to go to BravoCon? Because just let them know, because it's going to shift everybody's schedules. She's like, yeah, I'm not going to go to Yeah, everyone's schedule shifted. Consider it shifted. So now Eva is meeting with a woman named Georgia, who is the global digital director for Ford Models.

And Georgia is asking Eva, like, so what kind of, like, what are you thinking about doing in 2026? What are you planning? And Ava's like, yeah, I would like to do more beauty stuff and also like editorial. And I want to elevate my Instagram. And I'm gonna post more and I wanna post like elevated fashiony content. So that's a start I guess.

Hi, model. What are your goals? Um, like beauty stuff. Like elevate my Instagram by like elevating, elevating fashiony stuff. Why are we having this interview? She's a model. What do you think she-her goals are? okay my goals arithmetic like my goals reading a real like a gigantic difficult book from a hundred

years ago her goals are fucking computing getting instagram followers what are you asking my goal is to learn portuguese and then take a three-week course at the museum about how to make your own loom so she is uh yeah she just wants to do fashion and stuff so george says well that's great and it's great that you went to an event How did your event go? And she goes, what event? The Chanel event at the MoMA, didn't you go? Remember last night when I booked it for you? And I said, you're going to the MoMA event tonight, okay?

I got to get out of this hell of being the digital director. Okay, go to MoMA. It's like, oh, yeah, the MoMA. I forgot. I was like, what event? Yeah, we know. You don't have to repeat that. We saw you be like, what event?

Yeah, they need to just start doing these meetings on the phone. so the poor agent can just hang up, you know? Like, the wine went dead a long time ago, okay? So now she's like, yeah, like, there's like bills and percentages now. I'm like, I hate percentages. We know. And she goes, yeah, there's things I have to do now. Like, there's so many things that go into having an apartment.

Like, you pay for it. And then there's, like, an amenity fee and, like, utilities. I've never even heard of those words. It's like utility, what does that even mean? The irony of a model, just being like, what does utility mean? Utility? Look into it. Something you're not even bothering with in your life.

I know. Now, Ariana and Liam, they're on a date. They arrive at the Samuel J. and Ethel LaFrock Center because of ice getting rink in Prospect Park. So they're there. this is on Liam's corner of the show I think it's so funny I feel like Liam has a whole different TV show that's been grafted onto this one

and like they sometimes intersect via Ariana where they go on a little date and then when Ariana leads he goes back to his other TV show that stars his friends Kendall and Jackson and his family so he is now we're having a crossover episode

of Liam's show here and they're on their date and he tells us yeah I think I made the right call I called Austin to get Ariana's shoe size and then I bought her ice skates because I was like, you know, it was 150 bucks to put a smile in her face.

Not too bad for a working actor. I mean, when you got that law and order money, you can just buy skates for everyone. I try to buy skates for Murshka Hargatei. She returned them. I think it was too much, too much heat for her, if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's just some pretty sick skates, huh?

You like these six skates? Bro. You were just at her tiny apartment where you had to build a closet because she didn't have anywhere to put shit. And now you bought her ice skates? It's okay. She keeps my own loan to my parents' house. My mom and dad are pretty cool. My mom worked in the film industry.

So enough said, right? I think she knows how to take care of an ice skate. And I'm over to Mama Oberfell. It's going to be great. You're basically part of the family. So then Charlie is walking, and we learned through. text at Hudson is not going to BravoCon. Oh my God, what are we going to do? Can we still win the Bravo? And the producer asked Charlie if he's surprised at Hudson's ditching. And Charlie's like,

no, I'm not surprised. Like, Ariana and Hudson, like, they sort of form themselves as like, this Bravo couple. So now, like, everyone gets tea if they break up. Like, who wants to be that? It wants to be people's tea. And then, oh, we hear some gossip from a blogger. This is not just a blogger. This is Lara. She's like, uh, I think that Hudson's holding Ariana back. And I think that she's going to reach her true potential. And she needs to be careful right now because right now is the prime time to fuck Charlie's core. Yep. And I guess it happened. Good call. So then Charlie is getting a facial. And they're like, uh, do you know about all this? Do you even know who you're giving a facial to right now? She's like, yeah, I don't watch Bravo. If we just get,

Is it bad enough? I'm not squeezing this man's pores. I don't know that. But let me tell you something. I'm going to tell you, if you push that aesthetician, I guarantee this is the next sentence. I mean, I do watch that yacht show below deck. Yeah, that one.

I do watch that. I love Kate. I love Captain Lee. I also really like Captain Jason. Aisha's very hilarious. What about that girl? What was your name that girl, like, V, whose boyfriend died?

Because we all know, that's what it is. People say they don't watch Bravo. And then it turns out they watch. below deck over see yeah well that's usually the husband thing right they're like yeah i'm not gonna watch i'm not gonna watch bravo shows a bunch of women fighting oh yeah i do love that that boat one the gateway one is that they don't know the name of it this franchise that's been on the air for 10 years that has like had multiple spin-offs as the only show about boats on tv everyone knows what below deck is and they always go what's the one about the yacht what's the one about the yacht

You have you never heard of angry tuna? Whatever that show is. Angry tuna. What is it? Wild tuna. Tuna. Anyway, it's huge. So now we go back to...

Isn't there a show called tuna? I'm going to let the TV show. I have no idea what we're talking about. You were like, Wild tuna. There's a show called Wild Tuna. Guys, it's time. It's time to take the patriarchy down.

Why is there a show called? Wicked tuna. Wicked tuna. I told you. Is it about like New England people catching tuna? It's, um, crews battle the elements and each other to catch lucrative Atlantic bluefin tuna by Rod and Real. Wicked tuna. Oh, and there's even a spinoff called Wicked Tuna Outer Banks.

Are they teenagers on that one? wicked okay it's going down I do I do not want to hear a single other

straight guy how can you watch that shit when there's a show called wicked tuna out there okay seriously

don't want to hear it yeah angry tuna I like mine better angry tuna it's time for a commercial it's time for a crap and's commercial

so now we go back to ice skating and Liam's like oh yeah I'm real impressed with her ice skating. She's a good student. She can be my student any day of the week. Oh, yeah, hey, let's get some hot chocolate. Before I do that, let me unscrew my laxas pills that I've got chained to the rhythm and also my bell loops. He's like, he just got him

right here. By the way, she said like a few times, she goes, oh, you really love your gear, which I don't think was a compliment from her, but he's like, yeah, I love, I got everything on a carabiner. Carabine in the back. I got lactose pills on a carabiner, wad on another carabiner. I got a spare carabina dangling from, you guess it, a carabiner. Because he's got the full anti-Josey, that's my lesbian aunt. He's got the full anti-Josey keychain where he's got like a million keychains hanging off his belt loop. They're like, jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle.

just like wow that's really adorable yeah yeah he's like definitely he's got like a little bit of like a crunchy vibe going on there like he probably talks about like hiking in vermont and like the green mountains um so he's like every time i do this people think i'm going to die they think it's like pills they're like what sort of drugs you want i was like listen bro i've done a short film where i played an addict but i'm not one in real life just don't have the enzymes in my body it's an actor's life So when did you leave for BravoCon anyway? When are you going for that? And she's like, yeah, I'm going to say, but, you know, it's like crazy because I love to gamble.

Yeah, I love it. Yeah, my mom's a big gambler. Why are you acting like, wow, can't wait to gamble just like my mom? Your mom has been in so much trouble. She was going through like tens of thousands of dollars at nickel machines for a while. I can't wait to, can't wait to follow it, all the sage footsteps of my mother. So, yeah, they, of course, show footage of Kim gambling. And, Arne, I was like, yeah, my mom will really like you.

Oh, really? Well, guess what? She better not put me in a stool because I need a chair with the back so I could put my elbow behind it. Yeah. Actor. What picture do you show your mama, man? I didn't get approval on that picture. Was it a still from Law and Order, which I was on once?

She's like, well, it doesn't matter. I was watching Law and Order. I know I keep saying I was at my parents. I've been at my parents' house a lot, but one thing that I turn on because the news makes me crazy, I'm like anything. They're like, okay, well, put on a Law and Order. Oh, my God. Can I tell you that it's not Jerry O'Connell. What's the guy's name from Law & Order?

This is me, by the way. Jerry Orbach. Jerry Orbach. Jerry Orbach. Isn't it crazy that even, what is that 30, 20, 30, 30 years? I mean, it's been on forever. Even then, he was like 60. How has he been 60 for 90 years?

Yeah, well, yeah. You know, he has not been with us for about 20 years, though, right? It's been 20 years. I still picture him exactly. He's probably in heaven exactly the same. Like, I think some people maybe go to heaven and it's like, oh, here's the 14-year-old version of Ronnie. Like, here's the best version with like a little flip in my hair and bangs, like, clawing. But I think Jerry Orbach came out 60 and he's probably still in heaven at 60.

I think so because when he was in dirty dancing, he definitely looked the same as when he died in 2004. Like he definitely is like one of those people just sort of had the same age for a very long time. Even when he was younger. Yeah. He was very famously in, he was in some, he was in some movie that famously when he was younger. And I was like, was he at like North by Northwest? And he still looked like he was on line order. was on Law & Order in the late 90s.

They just always looked exactly the same age, which was crazy. So now Riley is going into an Uber. Why are we talking about Jerry Orbach? Oh, it's just a general commentary from Law & Order. I think so. I don't know. I'm leaning today. I don't even know.

I don't know why I'm here today. So Riley gets into an Uber, and we find out that Riley is now back from Atlanta, and she's planning a girl's night to make up for the last girl's night that she was in. And her, she's inviting a bunch of girls. She's also inviting Brooks this time

because Brooks was sad to be left out, but it's also going to be on Shy's birthday. And she's like, it's funny, she's like, and I'm going to invite Shy because he would feel a certain way if he wasn't invited, but Brooks was, which I don't know why that was funny to me. And it's also funny because it winds up being like just Brooks and shy are the only two guys at the girls' night.

And like, Brooks, I understand, but like, shy just tagging along at Girls' Night is like, I find to be very endearing. I think it's like very sweet that he spent his birthday with all the girls. It's also so sad though that Shai's, they're like, well, I guess we have to invite Shai. It's his birthday. Let's not have a birthday party for Shai. Let's just invite him to our girls night. We're just going to invite him because they'll feel a certain sort of way that Brooks got an invite, which I don't understand that either. but now we see shy on his chart on his what's it called uh you know that machine the juky that i love you know what i'm talking about oh the sewing machine but it's the um surger you know

surger thank you um you saw me going like this i'm pushing the fabric through the surger so shy is telling us yeah wait hold on a second let me put my elbow let me do a limb up in my elbow on the back of my chair yeah i've taken zone in glasses. I know about surges. Yeah, I'm an actor. Yeah, basically at surge, I photo, sorry, surge, motorcycles, firefighting, you know, basically all of it. Yeah, when there's a fire, what we do is as a volunteer firefighter,

we go to all the schools in Lake George and get about fire blankets that I sell myself with my surger. So what can I say? I'm a fire surger. If there's a fire in one place and a fire in another place, I surge the fires together. It makes a bigger fire, but hey, I'm an actor when I'm here to place. If you're a juky surger catches on fire, I got you. I am equipped to deal with that as long as it's in Lake George. What's funny is that when I have been Madilkirt.

When I was in Lake George. Yeah, let me tell you this story, to bring it all together. When I was a kid, it must have been 87, 88. My family went up to Lake George for like, I don't know, some little vacation. And we stayed at a resort and the resort had like a movie night and they basically would show movies and I went to the movies at the resort and they were showing guess what dirty dancing Jerry Orbach callback. Whoa. Wow, you're really surging our memories together. Bro, I just searched. I just brought I just brought Jerry Orbach full circle from Lake George all the way to firefighting. And were you like, is that man 60 or 60?

I was like, that 60 year old man has no right to put baby in the corner. I cried. I cried so hard in that movie, which is funny because it's not a movie that you cry in, but when they break up for a second, when they play, she's like the wind. I cried and I cried. I was like very sensitive to that when I was like child. And then the night, but the night before on movie night, you know what they showed? And this is the movie that destroyed me.

La Bamba. I sat there. And then when the movie was over, I had to walk all the way back. Oh, La Bomba, yeah. I had to walk all the way back to my hotel room. And I walked in that hotel room crying. And my parents were like, what was wrong? I was like, I watched La Bamba.

Yeah. I was like, this is a true story. Why would nobody tell me how this ended? Like, it's seared into my memory. Like, Richie Valenz's mother, putting up the laundry on that line. and then just like dropping to her knees as a sign more Alice hugs her. La Bamba! It's like, I'll be here for you.

By the way, do we know how old Jerry Orbach is? It's really been probably. La La La La La 60. Brooks and Shy are finally on the phone because Brooks has been avoiding Shy like crazy. So he's like, hey, I'm so sorry. I know that I missed a few calls from you. He's like, yeah, well, I texted you about a potential photo shoot. I didn't hear back from you.

So I got worried, like, it's everything okay? Like, I mean, is there something going on? I mean, I hope, you know, we have enough respect for each other. Like, if that anything's going on, like, you would like, tell me. Like, you could say what you need to say. Yeah, I don't do that. I don't say what I need to say. I mean, as someone who is friends with the majority of people in this group,

I feel that your actions are making me question how much I can trust you. He's like, what, what actions are going against your comfort? Like talking to a sweet old lady on the subway? Like watching Survivor as a child? Like, what are you talking about? He's like, everything that's going on between Ariana and like Hudson. Oh, God. Come on, Brooks.

Give me a break. Stretch. So, it is stretching. So, side's like, I mean, me getting involved with them, that's between Ariana and I, right? Yeah. So like you being nosy in someone else's business isn't really between the point is you being nosy. So you can't really stand against somebody else being nosy, you know. But like also you can't like you should just say, I learned my lesson.

I'm not doing that again and just indebt it right there. But also Brooks, I don't know this is what the point you were trying to make, which is like Brooks being mad at at shy for inserting himself to else's drama like then brooks is doing the same thing is that what you're saying or you're saying yeah yeah it's typical to be like um that's not even that's not even your business but it's not really your business either so um brooks is like yeah you said you needed to be a friend to hudson but like ariana's cute and you wouldn't say that because you didn't want to come across a different way on camera and she's like oh my god like there was like a small surprise birthday picnic for our And Brooks and I left at the same time.

I'm like, okay. So I was like, well, she looks cute. You know, like, yeah, she's cute. Like, so is Brooks. They're all cute. But why is it so offensive that shy is saying that she's cute? But it's not offensive that everybody else thinks Ariana's cute. Like, why is it okay for everybody else to openly be crushing but not shy?

Because I think that Brooks was upset that shy was like, I think she's cute and I would go after her except that I don't want to do that because it it brooks interpreting as like shy was saying i'm not going to go after her because i'll that'll look bad on camera because hudson that like hudson's my boy and so i think he's sensing that shy is like a faker and that everything he does is insincere and that um like he's actually going to be shifted he's going to go after ariana on the low i think that's the story that brooks is putting forward if i can figure it out yeah okay that makes So Shai, Shai's like, I mean, I think she's cute, but like I said it in a way that was like, like gave her the cute where I think that like, he's like, yeah, but you said you couldn't do it because of Hudson. You're being a friend of Hudson now.

And he's like, but it's not like I have feelings for her. Like, you're questioning her friendship and implying that I'm like, I'm not a good person. And I respect you and I admire you. So I don't know why you're doing that. Like, I admire your brand. Yeah, that's the highest compliment. That's fake right there. You admire his brand.

he's got a sweat seat that came out a long time i mean no offense he does have other stuff now we looked at his website so his stuff did come out but to be to be like i'm not fake i admire your brand is brooks has disintegrated terry cloth as his brand that's what we learned last week so then shy's like i could take a hand all right like i feel like you obviously like you don't want to be involved in my photo shoot he's like it's not about what i want and what i don't want i'm signed to a modeling agency and all of my work goes through them. Shai's like, well, I don't want to chat to my friend's modeling agency to see if they can be in a photo shoot. And Brooks tells us, when you have a modeling agreement in place, there are exclusivities.

Like, I don't want to get sued for like breaking contract. It's like, you can, okay. You can still say like, like, I totally will do this. Let me check with my agent to see if it's a contract. conflict, but it shouldn't be a problem, you know? Yeah, he just doesn't like shy. He doesn't want to do it. He doesn't like shy.

He doesn't like his product. I think Brooks is being a little shit, but I do respect that Brooks is at least saying what he feels, because that's very not like Brooks to be like, well, you know, here's what I'm upset about. So he's like, well, this conversation's like, I guess I have to go. I have a lot of work to do. He's like, yeah, so do I. But I'm giving you the courtesy of calling you back in the middle of the fucking work day to have this conversation.

Girl, please. You haven't given the courtesy of even texting back for over a week, so please. Yeah. Well, that was time to go to Girls' Night, and Riley just wants to have some friends over. So we see some familiar faces. We see Kayla.

We haven't seen it a little bit. We see someone named Maya the Don. and we see Amari, who we all know as Angela Oakley's daughter. Amari, she's already crossed over to a new show. How quick. So they arrive and there's a slide option. And if this looks familiar to you, you may remember a certain episode of Real Housewives of New York

where I think Leah had like a cool hip like downtown party with like cool people. and then all of her co-stars came, and I believe some of them just slid right. I want to say, did Sonia Morgan slide down that? Am I mixing things up? Didn't Leah have a party with this slide? We've definitely seen this slide on Bravo before, right?

I don't know. The Leah McSweeney episodes have been deleted from my DVR for the most part. My brain space, listen, Angry Tuna, you know what I mean? At some point, I'm just like, no, I'm not going to keep that. I might be conflating things. I could have sworn the Therony women like went down this slide for some scene once. Maybe it wasn't Leah. I don't know.

I could have sworn I have like an image of Tinsley. I also do remember there was one time where Leah definitely had a party and there were all these like young hipsters there. And then Sonia came down the staircase and was like, I could just eat you up. I could be your grandma or something like that. And they were like, yeah. Like I just remember she had this amazing entrance into this party down a staircase. And for some reason, that was that was Leah McSweeney's party.

Wasn't it? But you know what, though? There wasn't a slide there because Sonia went down the staircase. But I could swear there was another... It'll be a downstairs side. I don't know. But I remember that party where she's like, hi, everyone.

It's me, Sonia Morgan. I'm urban. We're downtown. Love urban things. Like a cringe Sonia night. So, Mira is telling us that Riley's Sweet for doing a Girls Night 2.0.

And George is going to be there, but she's already had the conversation with Charlie, and now she needs to have a conversation with Georgia before BravoCon. And so everybody's, you know, coming in and sliding, do the slide thing. And so Riley's like, well, I invited Georgia because I felt like it would be rude if I didn't. Yeah. Like I hate her. Um, so Amira arrives and, um, um, um, so Amira arrives and, um, um, And like people just are arriving and they're going down on the slide. Amira's like, my boots. I don't want to ruin my boots.

I feel like there's a staircase option that people can take that they're neglecting. But anyway, Riley is they have this like Riley and Georgia have this weird hug. It's like this light hug. It's kind of like, we all think that like Georgia in the hand washing is like gross. But I kind of feel like I think Riley is drawing it out too much at this point. It's like you either are friends. You would just accept Georgia into your life and your friends with her or you don't. But like this whole like, slow, like little hug.

And George is like, see, that was good. That wasn't so bad. I don't know. I'm like. She's like, oh, no, don't. Not the rubbing on the back. But Riley, I think the whole thing is that Riley just doesn't like to hug in general, you know. Yeah.

She's like, I don't hug people. But, you know, she does make a lot of it. But Georgia does, too. She's going to start her own hand soap. So it's just one of those things. To make it. To make washing her hand on. Yeah.

Yeah, because people like need to like think of cleaning as fun again. Yeah. And so then shy is there and she's talking and shy's talking to Maya of the Don and he and he's like, Hey, so how do you know Riley? She's like, I'm a rapper. And he's like, really? She's like, yeah, that's how I know Riley. He's like, so what's your rapper name?

Maya the Don. How do you know Riley? He's like, well, I met Riley last year. So you know what? Like, I make, I make clothes and she's like, oh, is this your clothing brand? He's like, no. He's like, well, you're a bad business band. Well, you're not rhyming every sentence.

Jesus. Can I just leave the office? So, Shai's like, well, this isn't honestly the way I would normally spend my birthday, but, you know, I'm just happy I got invited to Girls' Night. So now Ava is talking to Shai, and she's like, this week's been a lot for me because of the hook stuff. And he goes, yeah, you're breaking up with your boyfriend. She goes, yeah, it was the whole moment. Did you know I've been to the MoMA?

Totally forgot about it. Yeah. It's a crazy event. So, so much to remember as a model. So, shy is like, you know, I just want to say I owe you an apology because, like, I don't know. Like, I was, like, stressed about, like, I just, like, texted and called you a lot because I was just trying to figure out my photo shoot. And I know we don't, like, know each other that well. But, like, from the moment, I met you at, like, the Highline Room last summer.

Like, we talked and I was just like, she's strong. Like, straight up. I was like, that's really cool. And she was like, is it because I was wearing a blazer? I love that she can remember the blazer that she wore last summer, but you can't remember that she went to a Chanel event last night. I thought that was so funny when he's like, you're just so strong. It's like, is it because I was in a blazer?

So funny. And he's like, well, like, we know each other. And like, we've hung out in, like, group settings, but, like, we haven't had a one-on-one. And, like, I just think, like, I'm, like, overwhelmed by her coolness and, like, how pretty she is. stuff. You know, and Ava, like, you seem like you got, like, you have everything together. Like, I don't know. She's like, yeah, I don't. But whatever. Okay, well, will you do my shoot? We're really not. This guy is, like, walking up to everybody and apologizing. You guys are on the same TV show. People can at least text you back. You know, I think, this is a time where you

don't need to be apologizing to everybody. Come on. You need to be like, what the fuck? Be nice to shy. Watch, shy is going to do something so horrible. This is going to follow us for the rest of our lives. It's like, You're standing up for shy. Now look, you idiots.

We're allowed to make mistakes. It's okay. We don't have to be smart about everything. Hey, to anyone who's offended, I just want you to know, I'm really sorry, and I respect your brand. Your feelings are valid also. Yeah.

And you were really strong. if we were wearing blazers people would take us more seriously so Gia arrives and she's like hi and then Brooks and Chloe arrive the two anti-slides Brooks like I'm not going down this slide I like the wet ones they're all saying hello and that's like very icy between Brooks and shy it's like hi brooks like and shy's like hi so they're like not talking and shy's like I don't do well with awkward silence like I really hate that feeling like It's like you can hear the silence in the bar, you know? Like, it's like the loudest room possible, but I can hear how quiet it is between him and I.

I was like, well, you know what? I appreciate you using the proper him and I instead of he and I. Thank you, shy. Is there anything you can't do? Now Amira pulls Georgia for a chat. And Rowan's like, I'll be at the bowling station. I'm on the show too. Lots of spares, lots of strikes.

Get someone to stay around for us. Private conversation. So Amir is like, okay, it's like my first public, this is my first group setting since my little blowup. And it's like, yeah, genuinely, I'm sorry about that. Like, I really didn't mean to hurt you about the Charlie stuff. But like, you know, like for background, when I told you, it was like genuinely a reaction to seeing you being like the person who sticks up for Charlie. And I just felt bad for you. Because, you know, you seem as such a different person as he sees you.

see you okay well let's do it all over again Georgia yeah um so then George is like um so like yeah I didn't know the extent to which it would hurt you and Amira's like well I just feel like you you use Kevin to get me on your side and this whole like Charlie versus George's oboeckles like that's like not my intention the thing I needed to hear to finally move on from Charlie and realize how bad of a person he was was the things like he was saying on top of the actions he was taking. So when I heard, Georgia, could you stop raising your chin? I have to eventually look at the ceiling.

I'm compelled to keep looking at the ceiling. Please can just like look in my face. Oh, I can't help it. Whenever I talk, I have to raise my chin as high as possible. A rectangle candy pops out. She is always kind of like raising her head. Like back, back, back. Her mouth is just always gaping open.

She's like, yeah. So like the stuff that like I heard you like being nice about Charlie and I had like searing information about you and I had to tell you. I'm sorry Georgia is my favorite person like on this show. She cracks me up and let's say the way she phrases everything, the way she like explains. Like I like she is hilarity for me. Was it last week when she was with her brother? It was last week, right, when she was...

A few weeks ago. Yeah, like, basically, like, I stayed with my... I just basically dated Omar because he had air conditioning. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yes. It was with her brother. I was like, do I want to, like, go to my sixth floor walkout, or do I want to, like, go sit in some AC?

That's why I did. And the brother was like, babe, you can't just date people for their AC. And she's like, yeah. She was like, by the way, the most fashionable things are things that are like not supposed to be for fashion, like a marching band bests. Like that's what you got to wear. Like her hot takes are amazing. And like even this when she was like, I have searing information. It's searing.

It's not cooked in the middle. Yeah. So Amara's like, well, you know, I had a conversation with Charlie and he's basically saying like I should, you know, I probably said it. So I don't know, like, it meant it's a joke or something. It's like, yeah, but like, he would laugh and say, like, you know, he would laugh and say it. Do you not remember me saying that? Because I said it was a joke. That's, like, the point.

Like, it's a joke, you know. But that's not, like, the only nasty thing that was said. And I won't even say anything else, but it's bad. And she's like, well, he's not here. So you can tell me what he said. I want to know because I've defended him. She's like, by the way, that's such a funny twist on what people. normally say, which is like, they're not here to defend themselves, so you really shouldn't say anything.

But Amira's like, he's not here. So you can tell me everything. They're always like, it's not fair to talk about somebody. They can't represent themselves. Amara's like, this is the perfect time. You have the floor. Commercials. Here comes one right now. And so Amira's like, I always thought I had something special, a special friendship with him. And George is like, yeah, I thought that too. And like, he's. He literally like makes you feel so important and so cherish.

You feel like you're the searing hot piece of information. So like you feel so special and then like, you know what I mean? And like suddenly you're like the butt of a joke and like you're a means to an end or you're like, you know, like you know what I mean? You're like a candy corn in like the pumpkin. You're like the you're like the pebble in the gravel driveway. You're the. You're the staple in the stapler. Here's one of many, you know.

You feel so special until he asked for his Bluetooth speaker back. And then it's just like, the world comes crushing down. And so she's like, well, what was he saying about me? Was it about my identity? And George is like, yeah. She goes, whoa, when did all this start, though? And she's like, from like the moment I met him. And Amira is, you know, you're a heartbreak for Amira because this is something

that she deals with all the time and didn't. to know that she has to deal with it from a close friend is terrible. And, you know, when she says, I, I know what you're going to say. I already know what it is. I know what it is. I believe you. But then she's like, but I also don't believe that your intentions are 100% right. Like, I don't want to have a conversation with him.

But I also believe that this is part of some weird shit between you guys. And George is like, yeah, I know. Yeah. Like, process it. Process it. But I can understand why she's also like, fuck you, George. because you're coming and being like, okay, this person has said like a ton of transphobic things about you. And it's always been fine with me until I got mad at him.

And now, now let's villainize him. You know what I mean? And it's terrible, obviously, that Charlie did it. But I also believe that Georgia fucking sat there and laughed about it. And now she's like, oh, you know, you should fuck that guy. I think it's really low to use the worst thing, not the worst thing that he said. Like the thing that you know is going to hurt somebody the most. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah, totally. So then Amira's like, I'm going to go. Amira's really hurt. So now it's a new day. And guess what? Let's leave next year in New York City for a moment and go into outside the actor's studio with Liam and Liam's show. And we're with Liam and Kendall.

And Liam's like, so what time did you get home last? night, Kendall. She's like, I don't know. It's not that important. Hold on. They're going to insert a laugh track here. Okay, cool. Yeah, Kendall, huge personality, blowing up this show. On a show where so many people seem out to lunch, Kendall is just like in, like a completely different restaurant. Like, what is, is she even in there? Is there somebody even in there? She's just, it's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm telling you. Kendall is like Liam's camp friend that he's trying to integrate with his school friends and it's just not working. You know, it's like the camp friend is the camp friend.

The school friend is a school friend and never the twain shall they meet. Like, they're just different worlds. You cannot integrate the camp friend with your school friends. That's the first rule of middle school and high school. It doesn't work. Yeah. It's also one of those relationships where there's one person that's the kind of entertain and the other person that's the audience.

And it seems like he's just used to talking and talking and not having anybody talk back, you know? Say, yeah. Yeah. So then we find out that the flights to BravoCon are in danger because something was going on then. And so flights are being canceled. And Brooks like, oh, my God, is it like a travel thing?

And the producer says the government shut down. And he's like, What? The government just shut down? They're like, yeah. You don't know that? He's like, I was just on a call for BravoCon, and they were talking about, like, travel and, like, the government shut down. I don't even know what that means. Like, I thought it meant, like, they had turbulence or something.

So he's like, wow, I'm, like, just opening the news right now. Like, it's not breaking news. Like, really? No one knows that it's shut down? Like, it's day 31 of the shutdown. He's like, what? The government's been shut down for 31 days. It's not the craziest reaction in general.

It's just hilarious that you didn't know. Because I think the reaction to all of us should be like, the government can just shut down? What? Yeah. How is there even that option? So Ariana is getting ready for BravoCon. and she's saying, you know, like, she's like, well, my mom's going to be a BravoCon and that really eases my nerves a little bit.

Because my mom's going to be there. Yes, I mean, famously, something that people will often say is, I am so nervous, don't worry. Kim Zolsiak will calm everything down. The beacon of tranquility, Kim Zolziak. Makes everybody feel better, everywhere she goes. Georgia's planning her outfits and then let's see. She's talking about who she's looking forward to potentially meeting and she's like, I heard Jake from State Farm might be there. He was. He was in fact.

He was and so many people were so excited to meet Jake from steak farm. Steak Farm. Sorry. State Farm. People were very excited. Yeah, a lot of people are like, oh my God, I met Jake from State Farm. People were excited. I've never really quite gotten the appeal of Jake from State Farm, but I respect the appeal.

I'm more of a flow, girly. What can I say? But also another thing is that Ariana says Vegas, like Vegas. And so they're like, can you say that again? She's like, Vegas. Like, no, Vegas. She's like, Vegas. Vegas.

Vegas. So then we go to Charlie and he's FaceTiming his mom, Liz. And Liz is there with her boyfriend. in London. Evor, I think his name is Yvore, and he's like crazy. And so, Charlie's talking about, you know, telling them about like BravoCon or whatever.

And he's like, I'm doing well. Me and a friend are going to open a bar. And Yvore says, Nice to have people from all walks of life. You know, I like a Duchess to be able to talk and make a conversation with someone who looks after the pigs,

you know? It's a real contrast. Like, thanks. Thanks, for weighing in. And then we go to Riley and Shai and they're walking around. And they're just like hanging out, which is nice. Someone's talking to Shai. And now Brooks is at Ava's.

And they're like talking about like what outfit to do. And it was like, I don't know what outfit I should bring. The call sheet says like, where what you'd wear to watch, happens live. But I've never been there. I don't know what that means. Like you were on it last night. Oh my God, was I? Was I wearing a blazer?

So people are just getting ready for this. It's very exciting stuff. Christian's not going to BravoCon. Gia finds out. And she's like, yeah, that's terrible. Gia. So then we go back to Charlie's FaceTime, and Charlie's like, you know, I mean, I don't even know if I'm going to hook up with any of these people.

I mean, Ariana is probably like the one I would hook up with, but maybe I will at some point. She's like, what? You probably will it. some point. He's like, yeah, like if I put in the effort, let's just say, if I decide to try. Little does he realize that Oprah at an art gallery, Liam is leaning back on an invisible chair with Kendall. He's like, so, I brought Ariana some ice skates. Did I tell you that, Kendall? She's like, I love you. What was that? Yeah, I mean, it's very cute. Did you kiss her? No, no, no, I didn't kiss her. Like, that's such an amateur move. Like, that's like, what a

non-actor redo, but a real actor, you gotta play the long game, you know? It's like the greatest role you've ever gotten is the role of lover. Meanwhile, Georgia's like, wow, honestly, like, there's less chance my boyfriend and I could get married at Vegas. So, like, maybe this is my wedding weekend. And back to Charlie, he's saying, he's talking about Georgia and that he's going to, you know, her ex, Omar is the one that he wants to open the bar with. and she's viewing it as a crazy betrayal. And the mom's just like, don't you think it's just better to get along?

He's like, yeah, I'm just trying to elevate. I'm trying to elevate above this. Back to my side of the TV show. So guess what? Shy called me up. She kind of apologizing. Like, whatever. And Kendall's like, well, I feel like I've just heard like not very genuine things.

Like, you know, the way he's been like between you or like Hudson and Ariana, like that whole situation. He's like, what? Like, didn't Charlie go after Ariana when they were together, though? I mean, come on, everyone. You don't have to be an actor to put these two points together. Am I right, Kendall? She's like, yeah. Could you ask me a question once?

Is that okay? Could you see what's going on my life? He's like, I don't have anything to worry about. No, what I mean? Stand your ground. It's a great law. And then we go to Kendall and Liam. Oh, sorry, we were just with them.

We go to Charlie. And now he's watching Amira's TikTok. talks and he's like yeah i mean i'm feeling fine because like i've known amira for like a million years and like our foundation's like really helpful so georgia can't break us apart and amira's like yeah i'm putting this shit to the side because i'm a professional that bitch yeah so now back to riley and shai and they're like at some little place sitting by a window and riley's asking what's going on with shy and shy's like you know brooks was kind of mean to me i'm not going to lie just just kind of sucks like the photo shoot thing i thought him and i were friends and he was like

go speak to my agent and she's like yeah he never yeah he shouldn't have said that and shy's like you know i mean he said he would do it like him and i had like completely different versions of conversations by the way he was him and i in the wrong way this time i take it all back shy but him and i had like completely different versions of conversations that we've had and like individually he was like who said xyz but arreana and i was like yeah i said she was cute but like i didn't I wasn't like, well, what are you doing you? You know what I'm saying? She's like, what, are you besties with Hudson?

Like, how does this work? And he's like, well, I was like, oh, I mean, Brooks was like, oh, my God. Like, what did you mean by that? And I was like, no, of course not. Like, I can't do that to Hudson. I said it. I thought I couldn't do it to Hudson. She's like, yeah, but like, you can't do that to Hudson.

You see? Clact your tea. That's the problem, dummy. Yes. So she's like, listen, if I was, you, I would consider everyone there in acquaintance. I have friends, but you have acquaintances. And finally, somebody's just being honest with him.

She's like, yeah, these people don't like you, sir. Yeah. He also, after the first season was kind of a breakout star, which I don't think this cast really likes. Because he was barely, he was just kind of hanging out in the first season. And then everybody loved him. And they're like, who the fuck is this guy? Yeah, exactly. But it really brings up a good point, too, which is like,

Um, if you're going to say, oh, I would never do that because of brocode, then why are you saying something in the first place? Right. Like, why are you even, why are you even putting it out there? So, um, shy is like, I don't get what Riley's trying to say right now. It's like, she's a witch with this like prophecy riddle being like, don't trust others around you. And I'm like, what the fuck are you saying? She's saying don't trust the people around you. You're not as good friends of them as you think you are. So don't expect so much from them. Yeah, you're trying too hard for TV scenes. And these people are not liking it. because I don't consider you a true cast member on the show. There. So then we go to Bravo Conn's Travel Day, Brooks and Amera, JFK, and Gia gets stuck on a flight with Shy. And she's like,

Of all the flights that I could buy, I box the one with Shy. And then- Shy has like 10 times more screen time than you, by the way. Yeah. Might want to amp it up. Like, you do nothing, but. dislike people that other people tell you to dislike.

So then Ava is moving into her new apartment. I wonder if she's moving into the, wouldn't it be funny if she lived in the Ava? Because there's a building called Ava. God, I entertain myself. So Ava is, she's moving in. So she facetimes her mom, Rachel Roy.

And she's like, oh my God, look at this apartment. It's so nice. Isn't this so nice? And Rachel's like, oh my God, that's beautiful. Those windows. It's outstanding. And Ava's just saying, like, you know, people think that...

She was trying to get a guarantor, basically. She's like, well, you signed for this apartment? And her mom's like, no. That's embarrassing. You're 26 years old. Grow up. Nice. Nice for Ray to Roy.

I like that. She's the non-spoiling parent. Because I don't think we see that a lot on this show. But she's like, no. No, no. Meanwhile, Liam, guys, Liam wrote a movie. So he turned into a short, and it's going to be in a third.

film festival so he's getting ready for that so it meets up with his crew it's and it's like rowan gets stuck in the in the Liam tv show so she's like well i guess i'm here because they can't show me a provocon i guess so i'm here with you guys and so it's like kendall and jackson and um austin who is uh austin is um aryano's gay and so he's like guys i'm freaking out i'm freaking out it's crazy so yeah he does his film does his film Yeah. And Roan's like, well, um, so tell us how much we should expect here. Like, this is 10 minutes. He's like, yeah, but there's like 30 films. She's like, oh, shit.

We've all been stuck at this one. Short film showcase. Good luck. You would never think a five-minute film could feel so long. But you've ever been doing. Short film, long night. Yeah. So then, um, hmm. Uh, yeah, that's basically.

that one and so he has delivered flowers and like 12 Pellegrino bottles to Ariana's room in Vegas yeah mm-hmm which I guess is nice I don't know what I would do if somebody I guess in Vegas it is nice to get so much water because they charge you like $10 per little tiny bottle but that's weird so there's like some inside thing about just loving Pellegrino I guess so well it's nice to get some some free shit. So now in Vegas, everyone's in cars. They're heading to dinner and everything. And like one car is like silent. The other one's like talking a lot of shit. And Riley is like saying that Charlie didn't even try to say hi. And George was like, do you, did he get his like eyebrows

dyed? They look really dark, which I felt so vindicated because I thought it was a few episodes ago. I was like, are Charlie's eyebrows so dark? It looks like he's trying to grow a unibrow. It's like it looks, his eyebrows are totally different. So I'm glad I was not the only one who noticed this and it's hilarious that it's actually been happening for actually several months um but they're like yeah and his face filled out they're like what's happening with him brooks like stress so um ariana g is shy and charlie are in another car and um areiana is saying the first time i ever came here i walked out of the club and it was like 8 a.m and i was like mom we have to go home yeah seriously it's like oh 12 more hours

So they get to Boa and their server brings over drinks and everything and Gia's like, okay, guys, we're going to do a toast. This is some of our first times at BravoCon, some not. And I'm just happy to be here with all of you. Cheers to Vegas. Like, cheers, whatever. And then Charlie and Georgia start having just small talk because Charlie's asking about Prez, which is Georgia's boyfriend.

And he's, and George's like, yeah, he's planning on running for men. are either next term or the term after, which, by the way. No. What? And Charlie goes, Mom Donnie, then Prez. So Riley's like, people off. What's that?

This little interchange pisses off people. Prez? Or this next one? Charlie. No, Charlie and Georgia just sort of having this little. Oh, yes, yes. I was like, what? The one coming up was happening.

Yes, they don't like it. Riley's like, yeah, why are they chopping it up? You know? Like, this is exactly why people don't take her serious when she's arguing with him because she says she's never going to be friends with them, but then five minutes later, they're friends. And Amira's also like, what the fuck? Like, they do all this damage, and now they're, you know, kicking over the table.

Mm-hmm. So then they're asking him. Has anyone heard from Liam today? They're like, who's Liam? Remember he's on our show? Oh, I thought that was just a backdoor pilot. And then he just goes off and does his other show. Like, no, both of our shows are at the same time

on the same network. We share a show. Like, oh, okay. So now we cut over to Liam. And he's now, he's at a group dinner after his film festival. He's like, I'm feeling pretty good. First time I got to see my film on the big screen.

Yeah. You know, doing the hard work of portraying a guy, hugging a girl at a gas station, watching her drive off. It was tough. I had to dig deep. But we got through in the end. And I think the audience really liked that performance. What's out, vegetables? Here I come.

Back in Vegas, they're talking about the short films and, or that he's doing that. And then they start gossiping with Georgia a little bit. Sorry, I still have my in the city going on. I would love him if Georgina came in. She's like, hey, guys, who wants to talk about a toddler? Let's see here. I'm fast forwarding through because a lot of this is just small talk. So Ariana's telling everybody that Liam got her stuff

and showing pictures of the Pellegrino bottles and stuff like that. And Charlie's like, whatever, that doesn't always get you the results that you think it will. Yeah. It's like, I do nothing for anybody and watch me go. Yeah, exactly. So then Charlie's asking he's like, All right, let me ask you a question.

Describe to me your dream man physically, sexually, like, what do you like? And Ariana's like, well, I think that Liam's hot as fuck, if that's what you're asking. I like brown hair and blue eyes. And Charles, like, Liam's a handsome guy. I'm not shitting on, bro, but like, whatever. And Riley's like, well, what's going on? And I was like, do you have a girlfriend? And Charles was like, no, I mean, I'm seeing someone.

They just like laugh. Like, no, you're not seeing anyone. Okay, well, we do have a panel coming up. So, like, does anyone want to clear the air before we go to the panel? Gee, that's not what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to clear it up at the panel. You're supposed to fight. I know.

Does anyone anybody want to make up before we go, you know, fight, you know, argue with each other at a panel? You guys want to do this here at this restaurant or in front of Ben and Ron and like we'll do it here we'll do it here so um so basically because Gia's shy's like this is shady because Gia knows I have I have something going on with like Brooks and everything and like how Brooks said talked to my agent like as I told her on the flight and just like um he just started telling me about it as I was waiting for the bathroom like I don't care so then Brooks is like yeah she's like we're not friends I got stuck on a plane with this guy um but also shy you know what the

producers do because we've seen on camera where shy's like oh wait should i call should i tell hudson okay i should right okay then i will okay i can do this i can do this so we know like this they're manipulating you shy stop telling people this shit my god he's like i can't believe i told gia something and then she's immediately using it against me on camera i know so then brooks is he's like at this point honesty is like the most important thing to me and just like well do you think not everyone's being truthful and he's like well that's not what I said I just think that being honest is important then Charlie's like well if you have to choose like the most dishonest person at this table wait why are you guys looking at me really why wait what why am I the most dishonest one

and I was like yeah you've done a lot of things that are dishonest you know whatever and uh charlie does not like that and then George George is like well the reason why I'm mad at you is because you lied about me with Omar. I remember I was coming out of the gynecologist and we were FaceTiming for 30 minutes outside the gynecologist walking down Second Avenue and I said, have you had any content with Omar? And you said, no.

And then meanwhile, you hung out with him like 20 times. It's like, oh my God, Georgia, cry me a river. Oh, I hung out with your ex-boyfriend. You were living in my house. You're on my fucking couch. Boxes in my room. She's like, who put the boxes in your apartment, though? He did.

without my permission I mean that's better than them being on the street to be fair yeah so this goes back and forth and finally Amira's like they're like wow Amira looks like you're smirking and she's like I'm not smirking this is not a joking around conversation

like are you insane like if you actually have a problem with him say that you have a problem with him and if you want to resolve it then say you want to resolve it or let or just shut the fuck up and never speak about this again because she's like I'm I got caught in the crossfire of this and I got humiliated and hurt deeply because you two are just in some sort of like you know late 90s teen

movie of like rich kids who like are attracted to each other but are fighting you know yeah and charlie's like but i do think about people's feelings and like i think about things before i say them and then that's why i say them and she's like uh yeah that makes it worse you understand that right yeah so funny because it's another opposite of reality tv thing where they're usually like i was drunk like how can you get mad at me like i didn't mean it i was just wasted he's like no i thought i think every single thing through and i mean every single thing i say it's like oh my god so george is like you know what i'm gonna go to bathroom because like i already said there's no reparation and they're like i try because i think reparation is the wrong word so she goes off she actually washes her hands

and and charlie's like um as she walks up charlie's like God, God, she sucks. But that is a sick outfit she's wearing, though. That's sick. And she goes, I know, great pants. Unbelievable, beautiful pants. So, Charles, like, look, you know, like, why are you mad at me, Amira? Still, I thought we had a whole conversation.

Amira was like, but like, you never told me about the slur. And he's like, slur, like, what slur have I used? And she's like, I'll let her explain it to you. He's like, but like, what about, but what, I thought everything was fine. Everything was fine. And then in the bathroom, meanwhile, like, Georgia's very excited because she's like, I'm washing my hands, washing my hands, when do I add the water? Yeah. And so George is like, yeah, Omar and I met through a stripper that he met at a strip club.

What do you think of that? Well, I can't believe that one didn't last. That's crazy. And Arianna's like, wasn't that your first red flag? It's like, no. So then back at the table, Amira's like, just end it with her so that you guys can, and Charlie's like, what do you want me to say? And she said, literally just tell her, keep my name out of your fucking mouth. Stop saying things about me that I've said to you, and I never want to speak to you.

And if we're in a group setting like this, then we keep it cordial and we keep it flat, but we don't need to go deeper at the end. Just say that. Yeah. And then Charlie basically, Georgia comes back and he basically says that. He's like, I'll be cordial with you, but that's it. And then George is like, well, then don't hug me hello. But like we don't have to be like avoid high contact and just like if there were things said between both of you that were truly hurtful to others keep it to yourself. Yeah.

Okay. Then so if someone doesn't say something to someone's face, then the person who the thing was said about doesn't want to know. Like is that what you guys are saying? Georgia. I mean, kind of. Yeah. Like if you're talking shit about me. you're being mean about me with somebody and you're like talking shit or doing whatever and just

being hideously mean no i don't necessarily want to know do you i mean i guess i want to know if it's you if it's like literally you and i'm like oh my god ben really hates me i guess i would want to know but yeah i mean i think i would want to know i don't yeah i think i think i would want to know if someone said something shitty to me but I don't know if I want to know because it was actually part of a larger thing that you like a manipulation between like a right one I don't want to know it if it's in service of me being manipulated into being on a side of a fight and then I feel like oh now now I hate my friend and I'm being used in a war and I don't think I like that like I think I would rather just have ignorance as bliss and yeah

because you're not really telling me because you're not really telling me because because you want me to know, like you're trying to protect me. You're just trying to use me as a weapon, basically, against somebody else. So Amira's like, Georgia, I'm just saying if it's my friend of so many years, in my mind, you're bringing this up to start a rift between us, and I'm tired of being collateral damage in your fucking fight. There, perfect. Set it perfectly. And Georgia's like, but that's not even collateral damage.

Like, what? Is this how somebody talks to the mayor's future wife? She's like, you know what? Like if we're going to go around and we're going to go talk shit around to one of you, to one another, we're going to say it to one another's faces. And we're going to say like, like talk shit, like, go. Like, go forward and say, if I don't like you, I don't like. And then all of a sudden, like, Shai's birthday shit comes around. She's like, okay, well, happy birthday right in the middle of my really good speech.

Happy birthday, shy. He's like, wow, they sing happy birthday. He's like, uh, thanks. Thanks, thanks, guys. Uh, really wasn't expecting this. Meanwhile, had no idea, as we sat there two nights later during this panel, had no idea that they'd had this really kind of bad fight in the sense of like, Amira just learned that Charlie's had very hateful things about her behind her back. And it's like really kind of a shattering fight. And they were just all sitting up their panel like, yeah, it's been a great season so far.

We're having a lot of fun. Well, Charlie wasn't. Charlie was all slouched on the edge of the thing. Like, oh, he was sunglasses on. Yeah, with the sunglasses. I forgot that was Charlie. Yeah. Guess not.

Yeah, I'm not saying anything. Anyway, fun episode. Thanks everybody for being here. We'll be back tomorrow with some Real Housewives of Orange County. Talk to you guys later. Bye. Watch what crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Allison King.

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