Watch What Crappens - #3499 Next Gen NYC S2E08: Pros and Bravocons

Episode Date: August 13, 2026

The Next Gen NYC odyssey to Bravocon continues as the cast plunges right into the fandom, despite not really understanding what the fandom is all about. Somehow this leads to Ariana and Charlie flirting, Shai and Ava flopping, and Georgia wearing feathers in her eyes. Also appear in the show [checks notes]... us? Fun! To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to watch our crap ends a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker. Joining me today is the one and only a Ronnie Karam. Hi, how are you, Ronnie? Hi, how are you, Ben? Just fabulous. We're recapping NextGen New York City today. Super fun episode.

We may be slightly biased, but it still was fun. Even, you know, despite any cameos that have happened on this episode. Before we get into it, Ronnie is going to be, uh, He's going to be interviewing Daisy and Hannah from below deck on a little cruise there outside of the Bay Area outside of San Francisco on August 23rd. So go check all three of them out. Go get your ticket. Hop on that boat. Have a great time with that.

I guess you go to what Hannah or Daisy's Instagram to get those tickets there. Yeah. Yeah. There are links in bio. Yeah. And then I'm going to be interviewing Martin Sorge, who has a new co-examination. book out called Great Bakes. Martin also won one of the great American baking shows seasons. So I will be doing that interview that a conversation in conversation with on August 23rd,

same night down in Los Angeles at Friends and Family, which is in East Hollywood. And you can get those tickets by going to the check out the website for Now Serving, which is a cookbook shop here in L.A. So go get your tickets. Come see us doing some fun extracurricular moderating activities. And speaking of moderating, here we are in an episode where we moderated something on camera. It's next year in New York City. It's the BravoCon episode that last week was all about going to BravoCon. This week is all about being at BravoCon.

Ronnie, what did you think? Wow. What's from expecting? I thought they were just going to show us on the side of the building. like last week and that that was going to be it but yeah have whole scenes people clawing all over just kidding we didn't have full scenes we were in it more than i thought i was like whoa i uh it's it's fucked up seeing yourself like that because we do this on video but i don't watch this shit i don't even watch myself while we're recording i have my notes covering my face so i know i don't ever see

myself and i was like oh god no i can't even listen to my own voicemail recording you know like like hi it's ronnie thanks for calling it's so strange doing yourself up there and it was funny i mean we got full on uh we've got full on kairons they put our names up there and everything uh so that was it was wild i could not believe we're in it as much also it's so fun to see our friends on the show too you know they they had a previously on and once again they put lara like in like a mirror on a counter she's like this would be the time to fuck charlie zikore i was like i love that laura just has this line that they keep playing. And then we saw Kiki Monique.

She was moderating. Sessie from the Bravo docket. She pointed out that they showed her in the audience. It's just so fun. Like, what a fun community that we have, that we do all these wacky things. And this, I loved that this show, this episode, really kind of dug into the BravoCon experience in a way that none of the other shows do. A lot of the other Bravo shows will talk about things that happen at BravoCon.

Anyway, sorry, I was just interrupted briefly. But what I was just going to say is that while many other Bravo shows, they allude to BravoCon or we'll see some clips. This is the first show I feel like where they actually really kind of got into what it's like to actually go to BravoCon and walk around and line up backstage and go to events and hang out in the hotel rooms and see the fans. So I loved it. Yeah, I did too. And I love how they just make it such a big deal for them because they're the youngest cast. And everybody else like, oh, yeah, you're a bitch of Bravo con. But for them, like, oh, my God, it's BravoCon.

The whole new world. We've been all we. Look at all these people. Look at all these lights. We're stars. We finally made it. You know, they're coming out like, they're at the Oscar Awards. It's just funny how they really elevate it in their minds.

But that said, it is a super fun weekend. And it is really intense being around so many other Bravo loving. and like the fans dressing up as different things. Like at one point in this episode, they were talking to fans on the street who were wearing like pink wigs and another lady, I think was wearing like a Lisa Rina wig. And they were talking to these kids

and they were looking at them like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? Can I say something? I believe those women were at our party. Because I recognize them. Unless my brain is playing tricks on me, that scene that that was shot that was shot at the base of the staircase that went up to our party and i for some reason i feel like when they came in they're like we just saw gea downstairs like in my mind i have this memory i could be now completely fabricating it in order to like they look familiar to me too especially the lisa rino pair lady yeah i'm like am i just doing this that way i have another way to insert ourselves into this episode like it's like not enough to physically see ourselves i'm like no that was our party that was upstairs they were coming to our party those ladies were at our party but i'm pretty sure i'm not it's like i'm not enough to sure that they were there. I seem to remember the pink wigs. I seem to remember talking with them.

I seem to remember them saying that Gio was downstairs and it was literally filmed at the base of the staircase going up to our party. So basically what I'm trying to say is if you came to our party, you were on next-gen New York City, everyone. Pretty much. But yeah, I was a really cute episode. So let's get into it. It's season two, episode eight. BravoCon, loading. It's BravoCon, day one. We're just seeing what everybody's doing in there. rooms, Mirosah Duranah in the elevator. She was in full glab. Shai has no idea where the fuck he is. He doesn't know what BravoCon is or what he's even doing here. I don't really believe him because I feel like Shai has done a lot of Googling and Shai loves the fame. Yeah, there's something about this like the

the the insistence by like Shai and Charlie and Liam and some others be like I don't even know what Bravo con is. I mean, I have a general idea of what it is, but I don't like really know what it is. I'm like, you just, you, you, you voluntarily, you, you joined up on a reality show in Bravo, but you like, didn't do any sort of like research or consideration of what Bravo is or I don't know, like something else like, you're just trying to be too cool for school. You're like, I'm a filmmaker. I don't do these things. I'm a fashion designer. I don't do these things. It's like, you're on Bravo. You know what Bravo con is. Yeah, you know, you've at least the Googled. So then we see Ava on FaceTime with her mom, Rachel.

Rachel is Becky with the good hair, right? I think that's what the rumor is, yes. So she's on with her mom, Becky with the good hair. And I love you like, ooh, ooh. Because she's like, look at me, I'm just a sweet mom. I'm like, I know what you did. You're lucky Solange isn't near. Meanwhile, she was the loveliest person.

We met her backstage. She was. She was really lovely. But if you know some gossip about somebody, aren't you always like? Well, that's what was so funny was that she introduced herself to us. She came up to us and she was like, you guys just want to say you guys did such a wonderful job moderating. You guys were just so wonderful.

My name's Rachel. I'm Ava's mom. Nice to meet you. I'm like, yeah, we know who you are, Rachel. But also because she's like a designer and she's been on. top model and all these things so like it was just funny to me yeah yeah it was just at all times yeah so um they're talking shy's nervous eva he's asking eva how this all works he's like do we have to like talk in front of a lot of people and she's like yeah they like paris with people

so like i'm glad i'm with brooks because he's like been to bravocom before and like he knows what's going on okay that's assuming a lot talking about Brooks. That's that's like saying, um, hey, I'm glad that, um, I have Karen Hugar as my driver because she's driven a car before. It's like just because you've driven a car before does not mean that she is maybe the best one to be behind the wheel. Yeah. And meanwhile, Brooks is like, I think I need anti-anxiety medication because my heart races when I leave my apartment to even go get coffee in the morning so now we see them going around shy's like i'm going to the convention area and he's like best case scenario being more accustomed in this brava world worst case scenario is like making

absolute fool of myself oh my god hi guy i definitely feel like i'm an imposter and then the producer's like have you ever had imposter syndrome before he's like i'm an immigrant in this country imposter syndrome is like my second nature so then um shy is on like a panel and then um and then this He's getting ready for it to go on a paddle. And this guy, Harrison, his friend is like telling him what his rundown is. He goes, okay, you're going to be on with Carol, Reza, Ashley Darby, and whoever Molly O'Connell is. I don't know. Oh, the Molly O'Connell, Vern.

Oh, Molly, astray out of nowhere. Like, well, I've been studying these people. So we have the Broadway. It's like a thing. So meanwhile, George is getting her glam and talking about their, being nominated. for the bravos and uh the producer says who would be the best person to give an acceptance speech so they all take turns being like uh not me i have anxiety i know i have too much anxiety so of course they eventually just like give it to gia because she's been in the public eye before

so like give it to her but i'll but before then um ariana's like you know what gia speaks like very good L.L. She speaks very good. And like, what is it? Like, what's the word you said, Riley? And I was like, um, L, L, uh, eloquent. Yeah, eloquent. She's like, yeah, eloquently, sure. When Gia is the most elegant person in the cast, there's an issue. Well, hey, listen, she's in the cast. It doesn't speak good. Brooks is like, if I took a bed a blocker, it would be end game. Those bitches would. Those bitches would would not be able to handle my acceptance speech. By all means, please. I would love to see, if that's the case,

I would love to see that version of Brooks. What if Brooks just showed up? He's like, hey girl, what's that? That would be, I don't know what I'd do with myself. I'd be like, the aliens have arrived, and Brooks is patient zero. He's been the first one infected by the aliens. The body snatchers are here.

They're taking over his personality. This is not him. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crap and it's commercial. So now I'm your and Ava face-timing about last night, guys. It was intense. And Georgia's like, yeah, last night was stressful because Charlie and I, like, actually, like, face-to-faced about it, like, the first time ever.

And obviously, it wasn't, like, the most peaceful conversation. Mirra's like, well, they tried to, like, resolve the issue. And, like, Georgia, like, very clearly did not want that. so I'm just like tired of it. Like they just keep bringing everyone else into their problems. And Charlie's like, yeah, I mean,

like, just like awkward and uncondrable. And then like Amir is like, Charlie, I'm like mad at you again. And I'm like mad at Georgia too. And like I don't want to like gag all your friends, but like whatever.

Yeah. So George is like, yeah, for like the sake of our sanity, we just need to like a like, just like, but it's like her friend Clark is putting on makeup. He's like,

yeah. You got, it's not like you have to have a friendship again. And they start doing, his poking his nose with his foundation or whatever. He's like, you don't have to be friends again, but you guys, you don't have to like rekindle, but you should like get it back together.

I love the pointing, the poking his own nose. It's like, yeah, you don't have to rekindle. I'm just telling myself, it's really on the nose. Got. I love that there's like this, there's like a little, like, cadre of gays on this show that just sort of like, tag along with the ladies and they're just constantly putting makeup on at all times.

They're always like patting their face. Always. Yes, Austin, too. Every time they show Austin, just like putting on his makeup. Yeah, they're all so nice and supportive. Okay, so then we see Friday, 15 a.m. And Ava's like, is it going to be awkward? And Amira's insisting it won't.

Like, this is a work thing, whatever. So now we don't know if Charlie and Georgia are going to be able to chat. What's going to happen? Dun, done, done. So Charlie's like, well, hopefully it'll like shine through this time around that I'm just like clearly on some like trying to keep the piece shit. I was like, okay. So then Amira's like, yeah, we just like all need to be like on our best behavior. And Eva's like, are people really going to be like there at 9 a.m.?

Like fans, they wake up that early? I'm like, oh yeah, honey. So now like BravoCon, craziness. And they're all they're all going around taking photos, doing things, appearing in panels. on red carpets and Georgia has feathers in her eyes. They're just like, this look. And she's like, the bird look was like received very well. I mean, those who got it, got it.

Like, everyone's away. Hello, Charlie. I know about you. I hear about your very drama. Like, what? Yeah, it was very black swan makeup. And then we cut to Rowan, quietly walking around in NYC. And she sees all.

all these clips of BravoCon on her phone. And she's like, I mean, I don't know why they're not writing me. I mean, they're having a crazy time. They're stuck in New York. I'm just stuck in New York trying to write this script. Nobody's texting me back. It's me. Riner Rowan, you know, everything.

All my best memories are put into scripts, all my work. Like, what? Where is it? Where is it out? So then we see her screenplay. They're like, what would your screenplay be of BravoCon? She's like, a girl named Rowan. A girl named Rowan walking in a park waiting for people to call her.

Nobody calls her. Do they hate Rowan? Are they calling Brooks Shields? Am I resentful of my mother? I don't think I am. What is the Nepo baby? Am I allowed to be one? I don't care.

I'm calling my dad to read one of my scripts. Am I still riding? How sad when the Nepo isn't nepoing? It's like you're Brooke Shields's daughter. And they're like, yeah, you have to stay home from Bravo, con i was i wonder do you think that they were not allowed to come to bravo con because they didn't want to reveal new cast members yet or wasn't that they were still being tested as like friends of like i think just they didn't want to reveal it they're like you guys this is huge if this gets

out um if it gets out that a law and order day player slash volunteer firefighter is on the cast they're just going to tear down the venetian okay so we got to keep this under wraps yeah i just felt bad because when you said the nepo is an epa wing i thought yeah because she's like got the screenwriter half and the screen right the screenplay was kind of like and then she's got the sitcom half and the sitcom half was also kind of like but i think rowan needs other people to react off of because i've really liked her on the show so far yeah she is good and by the way there was one week we did not recap this show and um i think that was the week when her dad was giving her notes, which we saw a call back to here. Her dad was giving her notes on the screenplay. It was actually a really funny scene because he came and he's like, what is this? This is no, why are you doing this? This is too much. This is ridiculous. And then eventually he just looks at the camera and he goes, is this really boring to watch. I love when he was going over the script. He's like, whoa, you've got way too much going on here. We've got a telephone, an airplane, a vibrator, a pigeon, a trash. Look, what? It's too much. It's like, no, I have, I have a very much. It's like, no, I have, I have a very much. I have a lot.

really don't believe it is. I think that it's actually very well thought out. It's like, X. He's just putting X's through shit. Yeah, that was great. So finally, she does get a FaceTime from Brooks and, uh, sorry, yeah, from Brooks and, uh, Ava. And they're in the meet and greet and like, yeah, it's like, we're so famous.

And Rowan is like, and then all of a sudden she sees Georgia. Oh my God, cut the, put down the laptop. screen put it down yeah put down the screenplay is not selling okay so back to bravo con ariana is telling us i don't think people really understand that we have a really busy weekend genuinely non-stop and rata's like yeah we're like working barbies this weekend it's like yeah so you have like five minutes to get to this meet and greet and then get to this panel and nobody tells us anything and then they hand you a mic and they send you out there um so basically the point is they're being pulled in all these different directions.

And then we see a clip of Battle the Sexes. We see them on the panel with Jerry O'Connell, which, of course, like, so what's the difference between boys and girls? I'd love to hear it's been 25 years. I've been asked this question. What do you think, guys? Why are women so different from man? Ask my wife, you've got a 20-minute answer.

So he's like, so, hey, is. anything going on between charlie and ariana everybody wants to know and ariana says i would never touch charlie with a 10 foot pole she says i said what i meant and i mean what i said so riley you even know what show you're from the line is i said what i said exactly from your former aunt so um yeah so riley's like i mean he really does wish she could like bang you i mean i would I would never even let that happen. Like, no scrubs around here. Okay.

You see? She knows. She knows how to do it. She's like, bills, bills, bills. And Ariana's like, that might hurt his feelings. And Riley says, yeah, he doesn't have feelings. He's Charlie. So then we go to an interview with Charlie.

And they're like, oh, so what about Ariana? Are you going to pursue her now that she's single? And he's like, yeah, well, I mean, she's definitely being preserved. I'll just put it that way. Yeah, I'm really gonna pursue a lot. I'm Charlie. Meanwhile, back now let's go to Liam's show. And he's FaceTiming Ariana.

He's like, hey, what's going on? I said a film festival. How's everything going there with you? Sorry, the reception at the Angelica Film Center is not so great. Okay, how's Bravo con? Second, it's really fun. What is that, I'm here. hearing do we have a is that really bad for a I just hear a buzz it's like a

no Kendall's here Kendall's here all right I'll talk to you later I got to go hey Kendall she's like oh yeah so what did you think of last night she's like yeah people were really grilling me about Ariana huh that's something it's a possible Kendall doesn't exist i like when they called her a shadow a few weeks ago like like she's not even there she's just sort of like a shadow and then they made turned her into a shadow i just keep on thinking about that and this poor girl who's like sure i'll shoot some scenes why not it'll be kind of fun and then she just gets roasted on the show and now we all look at her and like who is this girl it's poor girl so she's there to like be like let's let's have like a rom-com moment we talk about

relationships. She's like, you know what's funny? Whenever you've dated a girl in the past, you give me updates like every 15 minutes. And Ariana, you're like so quiet about that. Like, what's going on? Like you grill me about my dating life. Yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, well, you got to find him out so we can double date, right? It'll be kind of like a make the wish, give the people what they want kind of a thing. I'm an actor. You're clearly not, but I'll still hang out with you for a dubs. Yeah, I do you. I do like her.

Actor, actor in love. So back in Bravo, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't choke on the jalapeno, Kendall. Jesus. God, can we get a chuck over here for jalapeno lips? God, don't wipe your heart. Kendall, she's like, oh, why am I crying?

All right, cut on that one. Do we want to take it from the top for safety? Okay, sorry, just actor speak. at the BravoCon. It's time for the Bravo. The bravos. And the category is Rookie of the Year presented by Jen Padranti and West Wilson. Wow.

Yeah. What a duo to be announcing your award. And what a time when West Wilson was still held with warm regard by the community. Yeah. They're like, we need someone to announce next gen NYC. Can we get someone who's trying to have young person hair from TikTok? West. Yes.

Okay. Perfect. Get them off that. So they're like, oh, my God. We slayed. We won. We actually won. Thank you guys so much.

I think that we're beyond excited right now. Wow. I'm glad you guys chose Gia. Sounds great. That's going down in history. So now, now it's flash forward to later in the night. They go to Carmela, which is in Planet Hollywood. They go in there and like the lady who works there like presents like opens up a refrigerator.

It's like a speakeasy. And she's like, welcome cameras of Bravo. And Eva's like, wow, Charlie booked a reservation. Hi gentlemen. They're so impressed that Charlie did the basic thing, which is go on to open table and click on a box. she didn't you know this was like a producer obviously they have to get filming rights and stuff to be in there and Charlie's like oh yeah I love awards yeah happy we won awesome I mean these kids like obviously they grew up with Bravo like they

grow up on it gross but so it's important to them I personally don't care I'm like really cool and do not care that I'm on TV at all I don't know whatever I'm going around my friends he's he's so aloof Ronnie how attractive um just so so just so hot that he's so cool, he's too cool for it. Man, God, that Charlie's the core. So Riley is, my nieces, I taught, since they were a young age, don't ever go, because everyone knows what you're doing.

Like if you see a hot guy, just say, rar, you know, you know, I do that. That's like the code word. And so yesterday we were somewhere and I just went, rar and she was like, uncle, that guy could hear us. He didn't know what we're saying. Jesus, calm down. I've taught you the language. Well, there's also this the Sally version, which is going, you-hoo. You-hoo! It's a man!

It's a man! Oh, p-p-p-p-p-b-b-b-b-b-b-bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbh. She just becomes lady, Roger Ratt's rabbit. Shave in a haircut. So Georgia left early. She didn't come to dinner. They're like, where's Georgia? She could have feathers on her eyes. She got to dinner with this.

And Georgia, we see Georgia leaving. She's like, day one dawn, that was fun. Dave outslaving da balla. I cannot tell you the depths of my soul to which I love Georgia. I just pray she doesn't do something problematic because usually when I love someone on Bravo so much they do they say something really whack and I have to then know that I've committed my love to them on the podcasts it's say it forget it right it regret it that's what I'm always writing it and regretting it but I don't know every every little verbal tick that she has just

her goofy smile I mean obviously I hate that she doesn't wash her hands but man she cracks me up over and over again just the stupidest little things I just adore I think that you said when when I hope she never does anything problematic anything else you mean I mean geez Did you watch the past couple of weeks on this show? Oh yeah, there's that I mean like you know You know we we don't like that when it gets really really bad Yeah, this is bravo in there. Yeah, this is Rob I've cursed her now So they're talking about how proud they are of each other and Arianna's like yeah, I couldn't do this without you guys Even Charlie and Brooks goes I'm

I'm dad. Girl, I would believe it. Someone take a pulse. Brooks is barely present this season. And he's all the way at the very, very, very end of the sofa for the reunion. And everyone online is like, yeah, sir, isn't right. So Ariana says they should call Hudson, let him know that they won the award. So they cheer.

And then they have this moment. I believe that this is now where we see sort of like, like, bunch of clips like the night's getting crazy and before we go to commercial they just have this really random shot of shy's head going back and forth like superimposed over our cartoon body and like later on we know we understand the context of it but at this point of the show i'm like why did they do that why do they just have shy's head on a cartoon just bopping back and forth i was like this show is now now the production post production department is fully like gone off the deep end and they're just putting any random image in there did you notice that now state i didn't

notice it i feel now that you said it it's popping up in my memory but it's they put so many little things in this show that it just i let it wash over me i guess they do it like this because of tic-tok you know how it's like constant and everything's yeah all the time and i think it's supposed to be like that but as an old person i'm just like uh you know what's funny the uh plumbers here right now because my kitchen sink got backed up and they i think they have the snake in there something and it's going like this and like that's literally sometimes how i feel when i watch bravo i'm like wow i have a snake going into my brain this okay so now it's day two of bravo con eva's on the face time with her mom again and she's coming to see her and then um we see clips of everybody parting the

night before and ending up in a mcdonald's drive-thru and ameer orders a four-counts of McChrispy strips. She loves like a little fried chicken finger moment. That's what she got from Red Robin last year, right? Girl, I don't know. You remember he's so good. And Ariana says, Who the fuck orders chicken strips at McDonald's?

By the way, I take it back. It was that she got onion rings from Red Robin, I think, with a burger. I take it back. There's no pattern here. Well, I'm glad it's there in my brain now because now I know. If ever I'm at Red Robin, The mirror. I know what to order.

So basically, it's just a lot of, this is a lot of just nothing happening for a lot of this episode. It's just like fun stuff. It's like fun activity that's going on. And so Rachel, Roy will be coming in later and she suggests that they all go to Magic Mike in the evening. And then now we see another panel and it's like, I got it from my mama. So we see Teresa and Gia and Kim and Ariana.

And our wonderful friend. Kiki Monique is the moderator and she's like so who is the most likely to send a messy text and Gia like points to Teresa and she's like no I don't do that because you don't want to put anything in writing I loan that like your signature yeah yeah so then um shy is hanging out with Charlie and they're watching social clips and stuff from Bravo con and shy goes look jesus uncle's like never wearing a shirt try guys bro they're from new jersey what do you expect and then chagos loki yeah and i mean well eva and georgia just had to go the high roller ferris wheel and um i love that georgia is just fascinated by the first well i i feel like this is her first time in

Vegas but i also feel like this is maybe her first time interfacing with a ferris wheel she was like oh my god like this is crazy like literally anywhere she's like wow like what's even happening like look at this city it's like what is the strip like what is that anyway when they say the strip and mabas says it's where like the cool shit is never been to Vegas that's where the cool shit is yeah it's like not what I was expecting like for some reason I thought Vegas was like much smaller it's like much bigger than New York city and it's like ding incorrect i know she's like look we know it's bigger than new york city because you can see new york city over there it's only as big as that it's just like look at

the new york new yorks you know any of us like but isn't fagas like the number one tourist destination in the world goes ding no also wrong also wrong at least in america ding No. Okay, in America. Yeah, I could see that. I could see that. Which way is north? And then Ava just points up at the sky.

Oh, my God. Even George goes, no. Just no, bitch. It's like, what do you mean? That's north. And it just says underneath, this is how misinformation spreads. I mean, this conversation had me rolling. So now Ariana is talking to Ariana.

Ariana is talking to Ariana. Ariana is talking to Amira about, I don't know, going to Topgolf. So now they go to Topgolf. Topgolf does really well on Bravo. It really does. I get a lot of Bravo time. Especially married to medicine. I'm surprised when they went there,

we didn't see Cecil and Simone there teeing up as well. Toya. And an iconic Salt Lake City breakdown with Jen Shaw. Oh, of course. Her huge party at top golf for her husband. So then they're basically talking, you know, and Ariana's saying, I can't believe we all ended up hanging out in Charlie's room last night. That was nuts, right?

He's even back in the chat. And we see Charlie ding, added back to the group chat. And she says that this has been such great memories. And, you know, Charlie's really trying to change people's outlooks of him and is working. Yeah. things are looking up for Charlie and then Georgia is asking Ava like you know how the after party was and Ava saying it was really cute actually and Charlie hosted and he wrote us all food and of course they're all impressed that

Charlie ordered them food because Charlie normally has other people pay for things and then Charlie and shy are talking and Charlie's like shy so okay realistically real real rap real rap here um I'm gonna ask you do you think you were kind of vibe in with any of the girls last night and shy's like um i don't even know what a girl is this is crazy like a girl what's like what's like what okay i mean i guess like i guess i don't know i mean here all right there was one thing that happened okay there was a little bit of a vibe like with eva you know and i don't know like maybe i missed it or whatever so of course charlie latches right onto this and he's like yeah i think there's a lot of truth to the fact that she is a drunk horny flirt and i

think she wanted you to fuck her. Charlie, Jesus. So you're saying she wanted you to fuck her. He's like, whoa, whoa, I'm not saying da. I'm just saying like it was like a vibe. Like it was like a total vibe with her. Shy, he's setting you up, you dummy. Oh, yeah, he is.

Shy, come on. Shy, you're gonna have to get smarter than this buddy. So shy basically was like, well, I made one little move. You know, there was just like, I don't know, just like one like we're, you know, know we were both drunk and it was just like flirting in Las Vegas like you know that's just how it is you know like one little move make it seem like it was this cute like a little cute moment between the two of them but then we go to Ava and we hear her we all know that this we all know that this

Ava did not flirt with him right like right poor guy it's and he's like a cute guy or whatever but this guy just has no game and I guess we all knew that this was not true and so then Ava's like okay let me paint you the picture of last night we're doing the like an after party at charlie's hotel room and i just was going to my room and then shy was like you want to hang out more so i was like okay so he comes over and i'm like wearing grandma pajamas and then he's like you want to make out and i was like oh yeah no no so is that what we call flirting now yeah and by way this as she tells the story we see their heads on little cartoon bodies and this is why there was a cartoon body because like the cartoons were used to recreate the story but they just

tease the cartoons early in a way that had no context that was strange so shy's like yeah i caught a vibe i got a look from her and and and the producer's like what was the look he's like well she was like oh my god she had me like butter like absolutely like i melted and it's just it's just so funny because it was like ew no absolutely not uh nope me not gonna happen yeah it's just the harmless for for taste just night in Vegas you know how it is like men women huh yeah no harm no foul the harm not fell but like you know like her mom's coming to town so i don't think we're gonna have an opportunity to chat things out about our relationship but you know like still like you know like we'll talk about it at some point you know i don't know if it's right trying to meet the

family i don't know we'll see we're just gonna chat it out oh charlie has a really delicate way of um of uh summarizing the situation where he goes well congrats for almost fucking eva Yeah, I probably shouldn't have said anything to Charlie about that, but like, that's my boy. So like, you know, like he could, I think he's not going to tell Eva. Like I told him this. Like, that's my boy right there. No, stupid. So then back to Ariana and Amira.

She's like, yeah, Charlie also did text me last night and asked me if I left to vape in his room. And wait, wait, he goes, if you left this is an excuse to come back and sleep over. Now's the time to do so. What? That's like crazy. Oh my God. And so are it is wild. Charlie's like, I mean, it's like, I wouldn't touch Charlie with a 10 foot pole, but then it's also like we're rubbing each other in bed. You know what I'm saying?

Guys. Yeah, how much of this is just that they're so easily manipulated and they've just done 30 interviews where people are like, what's going on with you and Charlie? what's going on with you and ariana everybody wants to know charlie and ariana so now all of a sudden they have this like charlie i mean they always had this i don't they're claiming that they did but that charlie's always liked her and it sounds to me like ariana probably is just you know she probably enjoys the fact that you know he's flirting with her and flirting with swagger like charlie swagger what counts the swagger versus leham who's a little bit more like God, I'll build a bookshelf for you. Like, whoa, I'm, I, I got, like, you ice skates or whatever.

Like, Liam's doing all kind of like the dorky things, the romantic things. And Charlie's like, hey, he's like the guy in the leather jacket with the motorcycle, which is what Liam thinks he is. But Liam's-Liam's trying to, like, make a reality thing where he's like, yeah, it's my girlfriend. I'm on television. This is going to be my girlfriend's basically how works. Relationship, yeah. And he's trying to really do the cheesy. fake thing and Charlie's doing the like, yeah, I don't want you.

Or do hi. Yeah, which is also being mysterious. But like Liam's feels like it's more like flirtation that he learned by watching movies. And Charles is more like flirtation from just being a scumbag. So Ariana. Well, Charlie's is rotation from movies too, but it's like the bad boy in the movie. Yeah. I don't even like you.

Judd Nelson. I'm just going to pretend to like Molly Ringwald because my friends dared me to. And then at the end, she's going to find a lot of. it was all the big fucking lie but maybe i'll have feelings for it by then who fucking knows yeah i think that leum like bud's jud nelson board saying i think Liam thinks he's judd nelson but he's actually andrew mccarthy i think that shy is more andrew mccarthy how about this mcarthy was always the do the doofy one right wait wait let you're right you're right you're right you're no you're right you're right he's duckie right shy is andrew mccarthy i think that is well okay

Are we gonna say, are we in like, are we rat pack and general? Are we wrapped back in general? Are we wrapped back in the 80s, not earlys 90s? So is Liam Emilio Estevez? Oh, he wasn't too cheesy. Who was the other Andrew? Who is the Andrew I was talking about that pretends to like Molly Ringwald? It's John Hurd. Not John Hurd. No, you have John Hurd.

John Hurd. Was that pretty and pink? Yeah, John Cryer That's Yeah, Liam is John Cryer I'm getting all my 80s movies fucked up No, Liam is John Cryer

But he thinks he's Judd Nelson He's John Cryer having studied Judd Nelson but he's still John Cryer No, John Cryer's kind of the dorky When he's Ducky Who's the guy next to John Pryor and the movie monster What is wrong with me? That's what I'm saying

I quit this podcast Okay It's Andrew something Okay, I'm looking it up Brad Pack Men Act author, Andrew. I'm bringing it up on Facebook, but where else are you going to go? Anthony Michael Hall?

Andrew McCarthy. No, he's Anthony Michael. I mean Anthony Michael Hall. Okay, yeah, Anthony Michael Hall is shy. Andrew McCarthy is. No, no, no. Liam. No, I think that shy is Andrew McCarthy.

I think that Liam is Anthony Michael Hall. No, Anthony Michael Hall is kind of the dorky guy. So that's shy. No, shy is John. Cusack. Oh, okay. Wow. Yeah, shy as John Cusack. Shy as John Cusack. Okay. So shy as John Cusack. Liam, so Liam, we still believe he thinks he's Judd Nelson, but in reality, I think he could still be Andrew McCarthy. Yeah, I think he's kind of Andrew McCarthy-ish. Um, anyway, sorry to the young people and the old people. Really, butchered that one. I'll say and to Andrew McCarthy.

Really? And Anthony Michael Hall. Really no one one here. That's the point. Commercials. Here comes one right now. So Charlie, Charlie's like, oh, yeah, that whole I wouldn't touch Charlie with a 10-foot pull. And then it's like, we're like rubbing each other in the bed. So what about that? And Ariana is saying, yeah, he says like out-of-pocket shit. But then he tells me to come sleep over in his room i mean that's just charlie it's fun honestly like i love the attention it's it's great i'll take it okay well so eva and eva's like charlie i mean and then he's like he's like he's like

like you start trying to like make an effort and georgia goes yeah like good for him like i literally hate him just you hate him yeah it's like that's a strong word i know okay well let me put it this way. He's like my least favorite person on the planet right now. I think that's a little nicer. Okay, date time with Gia. Oh, no, you're right. Sorry, Miraburus, you're right. Yeah, I don't think they're really saying that much. But then we go to date time with Gia and Christian. And this is where the ladies with Wiggs stopped to take pictures with them. And she is like, I've been in the public Like I since I was like eight years old. Like I didn't really have the worst experience growing up.

Like my family's been through the ring up, but it like opens up like so much opportunities for me right now, which is clearly like influencing and having like a giant new apartment and stuff like that. But she goes, yeah, like my family reconciling. Oh, stop. And it's cute because she does mean her family is reconciling 14. TV, but like to her, it's so sweet. She's like, look, TV forced my mom and her sister-in-law to get back together again or they wouldn't be on TV anymore. And it worked.

And now everybody's pretending to like each other again. Thanks, reality TV. The powers of reality TV. So then, so Gia is basically like, they sit down at their dinner and Gia's like, what kind of food is this? Like, normal? he goes italian yeah okay normal okay how's it has it been for you at bravo con he goes i don't know he's just it's just tiring it's a lot she's like what was like the coolest part for you he was like i don't know i feel like it's all the same just photos of fans in different sections yeah so many photos

like do you ever feel like i'm like forcing you to like be here stuff like that he's like yes you're literally forcing me to be here he's like yeah you gave me no choice and she goes uh-uh and he's like yeah you know i don't like to be on camera i don't like the film like all the time i don't like to have to you know and like you have to we're in like two different worlds like yeah but what about when we get like married not cats and like take the next stop a moment and he just stays quiet he's like ooh i couldn't tell you they have this great shot where he's like i don't like being i don't like being filmed and then they just like pan over to see that there's like a camera directly on him

um yeah gia it's time to move on from this guy sorry i don't think you should have to give up your reality lifestyle you have been raised in it you obviously like it and this guy you obviously you like this guy there are other fish in the sea fish that um you should swim with i mean it's tricky too like it's weird it's if you find i was gonna say yeah there's the other side of that too where like you don't want to be famous is good sometimes right maybe it should just be like he lets her do her thing but then he doesn't have any obligation to be on camera because that would be good but um if he's going to make you not do this then that's going to be a problem yeah i don't think he's making her right or maybe that's why he's holding out with the the proposal and stuff like that

it's obviously an issue that's i think she wants him to be there you know like you you have to show your life on these shows and so if you're just going to have an off-camera boyfriend friend and that's not really going to work. But he's already given you the answer many times on camera. We've seen the scene a lot. Even he's like, oh my God. He's like, why are you not taking it? Yeah.

So he's like, we've had this conversation like 50 times. But also like she's young. There's time to find someone else. That's true. Now it's day three. Even when you're old, there's time to find somebody else. That's a lot of people out there. Just look at a McDonald's sign and look.

look how many fucking billions of burgers have been served. And just think, only one of those people really needs to find me attractive. Or just think about it this way. Of all the billions of burgers being served, there's always going to be someone who also just wants the crispy strips. Meaning, like, there's a menu. There's something on that menu there that you think will never get picked, but there's someone who will pick it. um day three at bravo con let's start off in shy's room i love this um he's he's in bed with his two friends and he's like uh gotta wake up and start the day like got to get ready for the

fans and his friend is like oh yeah all your supposed fans out there she just laughs in his face so brooks is getting ready with uh chloe he's like like, Bravo con day three. Are you going to be at my panel? She's like, of course. Yeah, we're so close to selling out at my booth. I can't hear you.

But I can't hear you. You're the same person. Surely you hear what the other one is thinking. I'm really trying to make Brooks marks the focus of my career. and the next steps are to launch the resort collection at Winterpop in New York City, and I'm extremely stressed. My parents are still investors in the company, and if I'm unable to pay back their investment,

they have the right to seize all the goods, including my sourdough starter, okay? And I can't let that happen. What the fuck are they going to do with a thousand terry cloth skinny or whatever it's called? H hoodie. Terry cloth light that disintegrates in your fingers. Yeah. So then Ava is getting ready and Rachel's there now.

And she's like, honey, please wear the Botega vintage. I just love that. Thank you. That's why I'm me. And Ava's like talking about how this whole thing with Hook, it's just been so sad and so hard. They're still living together. They have a pillow fort between them. And thank God for Vegas.

And you know, my mom, I need my mom. And Rachel's like, my suggestion after my 51 years of living going through ups and downs and being maligned by Beyonce is that you just need that core group of girls, you know? She's like, yeah, well, Ariana just went through the exact same thing that I'm going through and she had a breakup. And now she's living with a boyfriend and then having to have her own place. So it's nice. I sort of have that. It's like, wow, yeah, that's like synergy, you know? Like guys come and go.

Am I right? one day you're jay the next day you're zay you know but um the important thing is girl and girlfriends you know girl you know being a girl's girl that's what's really important honey mom i really want to move out of hook's house i'm not paying your i'm not i'm not i'm not being your women supporting women okay women supporting women so will you support me leaving no with that. So, Eva talks about how she's really close with her mom. And when her parents got divorced, her mom was supporting herself and still is. And now that she's in a similar position, you know, she's not just like, mom, I need help with my English. Now she's like, mom, I need help

with my broken heart. So then, oh, so lovely, so beautiful. Now it's 20 minutes until the panel and everyone's getting ready and et cetera. And I think there was like a moment in here where Shy FaceTime's his mom, Pia, and he's like, Mom, look at my shirt. She's, oh, darling, that's the most beautiful shirt I've ever seen. And she has her phone like hanging from the ceiling because she's like looking up at it like this. She's like, could someone please send someone to get me out of this well? Thank you.

That's how you're supposed to do FaceTime. Finally, someone who gets it. And then they cut to the moderator room 20 minutes before. And there are these two kind of bald guys staring at each other going, do I like fat? No, do I like fat? No, do I like fat? Is my houseback showing? No, do I like fat?

No, do I like fat? Can they make this a bigger font? No, it's printed. Yep. And it was us. So we see them all line up. And Eva and Shire really nervous that they're going to get asked about their relationship. What happens?

What happens if they get asked about it? What happens if they get asked? But don't worry. We didn't ask them because we didn't know. So guess what? Here come the moderators. It's me. It's Ronnie. We're here. And you see me on stage going, oh my God, I can't believe we got to moderate next down New York City. You guys, this is crazy. Oh my God. I can't stop popping my hands. And I was like, oh, my, wow, wow, wow, blah, blah. Hey, hey, guys, gosh, gosh, wow.

Here comes next shot. And then I put the cards right up to my face. Like cover my face. Next gen, NYC. Do you not remember where you are? For fuck's sake, you have one thing to say. You got to read it off the card. Yeah, well, they also show a shot of me just looking down at my card.

Like straight down. You just see the top of my head. Like, uh, ask Ariana. How's Hudson? I thought you did great. And I actually love that we came out kind of, color coordinated. We didn't plan it. That was purely by accident, but we were both like in our olive moment. Yeah. Yeah. It's like our brownish, brownish olive. So we became their kids. It's so funny

because we're watching this whole show. We had no idea that there was this Charlie drama happening and shy and Ava. And you watch the show and their whole vibe is like, oh my God, like, that's crazy. It would be iconic because if you went on a party last night, oh my God, I hate Charlie. They're all like that. And then when we go out on stage, we had to walk by. They were all lined up in a single file line. And we had to like walk by them. And we're like, hi, guys. They all were like, hi.

They're like seven-year-olds being like, hi, Mr. Mandelker. Yeah, because you know, even, yeah, because on this show, even when someone's five years older, they're like, oh my God, they're so old, you know. So we're like really old for these poor kids. It was like watching Marlon and Gandalf walk by them. They're like, yeah, they're like, can we go to the bathroom?

They're grazing their hand. But they were so nice. And let me tell you, also stunningly gorgeous. Every single one of them was just so good looking. And I mean, we know, we see them on TV, but seeing people in real life, I was like, oh, my God, you guys are also, your pores. Where are they? You're all so cute. And Amira, Vavum.

Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. I think Amira is having a wonderful season. I feel like, first of all, she's had way more. screen time than she did last season i kind of felt like she was stitched in last season like midway through i think amira is great she is so she's so charming but she's like her personality is is just i don't know like you want to be like her friend um she's really funny uh but she can also she can really sort of like stiffen up and like call you out like she's really i think had a wonderful breakout season i think

She's fantastic. Yeah. So the panel, Georgia, like Georgia, like your hands, like, you don't like, like, wash your hands. Like, what's that about? Like, is that following you around? Like, not watching your hands like. And then you're like, all right, this one's for shy. You weren't in the season that much. Like, is that, is it because of your name? Are you shy or are you a more reserved person? And he like didn't get it at first. I remember him being like, what? I don't get it because of my name. it's like shy your name shy he's like I can't really blame him like hey and then shy you ever heard dad jokes I've got him he goes I met everyone through Dylan and then he just left he just like left him with these people and I believe that what then happened with that they cut out was me saying yeah what happened to him I was like yeah

does anyone watch his only fans remember I asked something about Dylan's only fans and everyone was like uh I was like okay uh back to the questions never mind well that's good what if they answer like yeah jerk off to Dylan day. God, I miss him. I know. Maybe I asked just where Dylan went. But anyway, and we have Ben, Ben from Los Angeles asks, do you think there's anyone? Oh, by the way, sorry, I should mention that he, shy was saying how he was like, oh my God, I don't know all these new people. And then he's saying how like, oh my God, but then once the questions start, I'm having a great time with it. I'm killing it. So then I say, do you think there's anyone on the stage that could learn from Riley in terms of being more honest? And listen.

did I realize when those words had left my mouth that I'd be starting a tense, vicious fight between cast members later the episode. He's like, I'm not going to lie, bro. So I think I learned a little bit from Riley and Brooks is like, uh, starts giving him laser eyes. This is the most emotion we've literally ever seen from Brooks. And it's just a tiny movement in laser eyes. And he's like, yeah, I mean, well, like, I could learn from Riley, or Brooks can learn from Riley all because you know she's like direct and like saying stuff that's like i don't know like that's good right

it's a good thing it's a good thing right shah's like i mean raleigh's the most confrontational person and brooks for like a year now has been like talking about how he should be more confrontational so it's obvious in my head like putting two and two together like a monkey would but then next thing you know brooks like flings his head towards me and like stares daggers at me and they're slow-mo, Brooks turning around and be like, what? And that ends the panel and our recap of this show. Goodbye. Thank you very much. So it's over.

And shy's like, oh shit, Brooks is mad at me. Like, walking off the stage, I know, like, oh, there's going to be a comfortable. Sorry, I burped. I just definitely know he's like more mad at me now. Don, don't they're already, we mentioned this last week. They already all seem to have a problem with Brooks. I felt like there was a question in there something like who's let

well I think Georgia who let fame go to their heads too much was Georgia they all said right but didn't they say something shady about shy there there there was like some weird energy with shy there but I don't remember quite what it was they um

watch that I yeah I don't know they just they're like on they just they don't seem to like shy it's so yeah we left them they're like what's up why do they hate shy yeah um so now they go to dinner and they're at the eiffel tower having dinner and um ariana ariana

is to go to paris i've never been and charlie goes it's such a shithole what so are you go stop it's my dream can you not ruin it you've ruined a lot of things because it's just like so overly romanticized okay charlie yeah sure and arianna's like you ruined things like god just leave paris alone he's like oh don't worry there's i'll still be ruining things there's your relationship with liam and are what's wrong with you he's like don't worry i don't think they caught that she's like every single fucking cameras pointed us right now it's like they just assume we're a couple right now that's why and then meanwhile we see liam what he's doing during this is that he's um he's like playing video games he's like in one of those like seats like where it feels like we're

actually driving he's having a great yes he's in one of the the actual driving seats with three screens in front of them. He's like a serious gamer, you got. It's also an art. It's also an art. A huge part of the industry. Just studying the research. Pretty method.

Yeah, I'm studying for my new role as a legend, you know, from League of Legends. I'm one of the legends. Actor. Like, yeah, I don't know what BravoCon is. Okay. I mean, I have an idea of what it is, but I don't follow that. Come on. Is it written down?

in courier new then i don't know what the fuck i don't know i don't get it so am i acting no i am becoming okay thanks that's the leum scene for the day unless uh bravo con is a film from the 70s starring alpuccino about a hard-boiled detective pretty sure i have not seen it is bravo done on 70 millimeter did not think so or even i'm all right now is it something that can be watched in its true format iMacs i don't think so so no i don't know what it is so um charlie back to charlie is like hey want to go to the bathroom mariana she's like fuck off charlie's like trying to get everybody doing his coke with him i think and at the end he gets shy in there the very subtle guys like what do you think about that right i don't know what you think

about but ariana and and charlie are being very flirty she's like doing like big flirt laughs like throwing her head back like charlie and riley's watching this and is like we have a new dynamic duo over there um so uh uh aryan uh rale is like do you think you're being slick ariana she goes no there's nothing there i mean he likes to say something that's like really out of pocket and it like makes me flustered and like sometimes it's like fun so like what about that sounds like i have like a low key attraction into them. Yeah.

So the cast is like, we knew it. We knew this was going to happen. So Charlie asks the favorite part of the weekend for everybody. And they're like, because we won. What about that? And everyone's like, oh, my God, you guys. Congratulations.

Congratulations. Everybody's so great. And then Brooks is like, I'm shocked. I didn't think Charlie was actually going to get booed. I was kind of shook. And then, yeah, that thing that Shai said about me. And then they flash back to us.

yet again. I mean, being, what's the number one thing that you think you've learned? And then Charlie's like, uh, not too much. There's nothing really for me to learn. And then Ronnie goes, I've learned nothing and I'm proud of it. And I go, pitchforks because everyone's booing. Yeah, they were booing his ass. He was asking for it though. He came out with his sunglasses and like sloshed back in his chair. He's like, what? Maybe it's talk. So, um, he was honestly, really entertaining. He really commits that one. So George is like, yeah, my head was like not early on the stage of Bravo con because my eyes were flying away from me. And I was like, daydreaming about holding Pres his hand. He's so cute. Like, I don't even know where the

conversation is going, but when I hear my name, I'm like, back on it. And then this is where you ask. So who has fame changed the most? And then Riley's like, Georgia. Everyone's like Georgia. And she's like, huh? Yeah. Okay. take it and she's like thanks guys that was so nice and right yeah that wasn't a compliment i know i love that george was like that was like really nice to be changed by fame is beautiful they all said fame made me hotter so thanks guys so then charlie's like well i like the late night hangouts in my room with the girls that was my favorite part and they was like oh yeah i was gonna say shy told charlie that i was flirting with you all you all night the other night so what the

fuck charlie's like what can i say charl's like what can i say i'm nosy and i like drama and gossip what you can't fault him for that so so charlie's like well that's not how i would describe it what us and so if it's like isn't that what you said or i guess maybe shy said that and shy's like oh my god i can feel my food like in my throat like literally i'm about to throw up on the spot. Yeah, but like I hit you up. Like yo, tea, like you and shy, like you know the good gossip that I am. Like, is it not true? Like there was a moment that you guys ended up like a drinking late night, late night, tick talk tick late night. Like I wasn't trying to say in a critical way. It's just trying to say like, are you pregnant? And so it was like, yeah, well, when I'm

drinking, I just like to have like fun or whatever and like then things got like misinterpreted but like he was trying to like have fun and keep the night going, you know, bonding and try to like, You know, Ava does this funny thing where when you confront her about something that she did, her first instinct is to push back. Like, that's usually called defending yourself against embarrassing allegations. Yeah, by the way, she didn't do anything. Yeah, and there's that too. Weirdo. So then Brooks is like, yeah, she's triggered.

It's probably because there's like maybe some true to it. I'd like to say something. Shy. What is it that you said about me on the panel? It's like, oh, about what? Yeah, this table is so long. It's like humiliating him to lean over and ask people what they said. Can say that again?

He's like, what you said about me at the panel. Like, why? Oh, well, they asked if they were the only one on the panel can like learn something from Riley. And then I felt like, well, you've mentioned that you're not confrontational. So I thought like, then you can learn something from Riley. I was just trying to help. You felt it was good to say that publicly in front of hundreds of people to me.

me. Oh, go. Have a public conversation. You're telling me I was truthful, though. My confrontations, don't you understand? I don't want to be confronted about that publicly. I know. He's like, I'm going to confront you about how you're saying that my confrontation sucks. How about that? That's my confrontation now. It's like, oh, it's just truthful. Like, it wasn't meant to be upsetting. It's like, yeah, I don't think it's like cool to like side swipe me. like that. Brooks, you were gonna help out shy with his photo shoot and then you, like, you, you ghosted him. So that was the original side swipe. And shy was like, it was just, it was like, it wasn't an insult. I was just answering. Georgia goes, I didn't interpret it as an insult

towards you, but, you know, once again, like, I have been the most changed by fame. So I have a different perspective on things in a good way. Complementary. Complementary. So she is like, well, were you also like saying to him, though, like, implying that you want him to be more direct with you, like what's going on between you? I've been doing this since I made. And Shia says, no, it's not like what was thinking. I was just like nervous on stage, okay? Meanwhile, Charlie and Flor, Charlie and Ariana are still off flirting together.

And Brooks is saying, yeah, like you told me, I had nothing but good things to say about me. but then you badmouthed me to my friends. Yeah, my friends of like five years and say horrible things that are untrue about me. Meanwhile, Charlie and, again, Charlie and Ariana are like flirting over chapsic. He's like putting on chapsed, her chapsic. And then Shia is just trying to defend himself.

And Charlie, of course, is like not there to support him whatsoever. And Riley's like, I'm a little confused. I'm scared about this pole situation going on because she's watching this happening with Ariana. She's like, mm-mm. By the way, I think she meant to, I think it was a whole situation, not pole situation. I misread that. So there's something in here where he said something like, yeah, and then you said, like, you had to call my agent or something.

And that's not true, but it was true. He did say you have to call my agent. All my modeling stuff is booked through my agent. So. Yeah. So then while there's this, like, this low-key squabbling's happening. Gia's like, guys, I think you're both making great points, which is my way of saying, stop it. The reason you obviously addressed this is because it was bothering you.

And I know it was like our mini reunion up there on the stage. So I brought up some things as well that we were feeling. And maybe we didn't know about. But like with that being said, I think we all really are like growing as like a friend group. So I'm obligated to invite you all to Friendsgiving now. Everyone's like, what the fuck? What kind of? What segue was that?

What kind of segue is that? I'm doing this my whole life. So they're like, okay, great. Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving. So now we go to the plane. They're like in Jersey. Yeah, they go to Jersey. She's like, yeah, Jersey.

Like, oh, God damn it. So then we go to the plane and Ariana is sitting in coach with Charlie. Oh, my God. This is crazy, though, because she had a first class. seat with Amira and she gave it up to go sit with Charlie and coach yeah that's that's one of the most damning things you could do you do one does not give up your first class seat did we not remember katy and tom schwartz one does not give up she gave it up see this is what katie wanted yeah she gave up the first class seat to be with the person you know it wasn't like when

tom schwartz was like i got upgraded have fun and coach idiot Classic. So Amira's like, Ariana and I decided to upgrade our flights to first class so we could sleep in first class. And then she gave it up to sit with Charlie and Economy. It's not giving, I don't want to touch him with a 10-foot pole. And Amira's like, yeah, this is like a dark cloud looming us, looming us back to New York. Liam's going to be there on his little horse at the airport waiting to pick up Ariana. And it's going to be all three of them on the back of Liam's horrors.

Oh, that is crazy. What happens in Vegas this time? She is definitely bringing that back to New York with us. Well, the good news for Liam is that he's been finally added to the group chat, which is great. And then Roe and Ava and Amira meet up for lunch. And they just sort of catch up with everything. And, you know, Rowan's saying that, you know, she went to Liam's premiere. And Amira's like, oh, my God, we missed Liam's premiere.

I'm like so sad. I know. It's like, she's so fuck. They like, laughed. Like, oh, my God. Because they're like he had a full-on movie premiere and we're like bye off to Vegas That's like the implication there and they just start laughing and then they're like oh my god You like Liam and then we cut to Liam and he's like yeah how it's been so helpful super helpful

He's given me shoe sizes wine names I have a favorite restaurant I like I need the date for a probation I made a reservation for that night yeah it's too in the back where no one can ask for autographs It's too planned. She's going to feel trapped by this. Yeah, way from the paparats. So Ava is like, yeah, Ariana ended up giving up her first class seat to sit and coach next to Charlie on a red eye home. And it mirrors like, and let me tell you, bitch, there's not a single thing in the fucking world that would ever make me give up my first class seat. Rob was like, didn't she say she wouldn't touch Charlie with a ninth foot pole?

Like, yeah, honey, that pole is getting shorter and shorter. And then they also shared a car home. Oh my God. So Gia's planning Thanksgiving, and she's talking to people on the phone and they're talking about what they're going to be bringing. And then we see the list. And it's like, you know, so-and-so is bringing this.

So-and-so is bringing that. Brooks Marks, Sourdough. Sourdough. And you think this is just like, whatever, it's just a scene of like us. We know you're bringing fun. fucking sourdough brooks okay jesus so we we think this is just like okay we're just seeing um you know some friends giving assignments you bring this you bring that um you know are

aryana and leiam bring some roasted carrots and brussels sprouts okay whatever oh that pinged me too i was like what you're a couple now i wasn't really paying attention i just was like oh whatever it's just stuff on screen and then uh but here's the thing so rowan got added to the list as well, the group chat. But no one took Hudson off and Hudson saw Ariana and Liam paired together with joint vegetables for Friendsgiving. And it has now kicked off a drama. And I'm like, this is actually the funniest, most relatable drama of all time.

I love this. It is. And I also want to give Rowan credit for having the best thing on here. Butternut squash soup. Like you don't hear that often. People being like, I'll bring the butternut squash soup. She has to transport a soup to New Jersey. That's kind of tricky.

I wonder how she's going to do it. Yeah, it's not necessarily going to be easy. I don't know if it was like the brightest thing, but I think it was, I was like, wow, delicious. I would invite her. Yeah. Oh, 100%. Rowan's always invited. That's how I judge a Thanksgiving list.

I love a soup. I love a soup. So I'm already very happy. I love a soup. Yeah, so now we've got the drum. for the rest of the season, Don, John, John. So the producers are asking Charlie,

if he has feelings for Ariana and Hudson calls. And he's like, wait, what the fuck? What's going on here? This Liam guy, he did not stay within the boundaries that I set. Yeah, because nobody gives a shit that your daddy's rich. Who aren't you to set fucking boundaries? I know. Like, you don't call the shots.

You're not even here. You're not really even on the show. You didn't even go to Bravo con and you were supposed to. And then you're going to complain that no one. followed the boundaries that were not like had no jurisdiction in the first place shut up get out of here so uh it's like what's going on with this leam guy i mean jesus charlie i thought it was going to be you if anybody did it and they all laugh and charlie's like uh yeah yeah it's charlie is doing it's that um yeah like i just like you know it's funny like you know it's uh the weather was great today

by the way i saw a cloud um uh there was uh i saw a door i went through a door today what are we talking about life right man okay catch you later Wow. I hope Charlie gets whatever money he needs for his club club before. Exactly. What's been going on. You got to be a little smarter, Charlie, when you are going after the piggy banks lady love. Yep. So Charlie's like, yeah, she says she would never touch me with a 10-foot pole.

So, of course, like, that hurts my pride. And then I'm like, I'm going to prove that I'm going to get it anyway because it's like, I'm competitive, you know? Yeah, and then he has this like crazy scrambled monologue about like, he's like, he says the stuff about like, I mean, I think that like my friendship or flirtation or whatever with Ariana is like perfectly genuine and like I, if anything, like I'm trying to hide the details of it from the show, but like not the other way around. I'm just like, what?

Like, what are you trying to protect? I mean, if I had fucked Ariana yesterday, I wouldn't be telling you right now. Like that's my point. it would make her look terrible, you know? Like, would it not? I mean, that's like, it's like a bad look for, for sis, right? Because forget Leon, forget the show. How about just Brooks and Riley?

Like, just Riley. So when I hide it from, like, why I hide it from the show, I mean, I'm gonna spare her, like the review of the truth, which is that like we were flirting, but that's it, right? You know what I mean? Yeah, nothing's happening. And I'm not gonna tell you about it, because I'm protecting her.

But certainly, like, he's purposely leading. Oh, it's such a little asshole, this guy. But he is really funny, you know. He's a good villain, this one. And I don't think, and he wasn't doing it with like a rise smile. I think he was like, he was really trying to explain his logic in a way that I was like, what are you saying? You're telling it yourself. Yeah, it's weird that he's such an asshole and he seems so detached and mean.

But then he's got such a perfect insight into himself when he's like, yeah, you know, she said she didn't want to touch me with the 10-foot pole. and then that really affected me and my pride. So then to overcompensate, I'm really good. He read it. He just doesn't care. It's so funny. He's like, yes, I'm sensitive in a very sociopathic way. That makes any sense.

They're like, okay, got it. So then he goes to the bathroom with Liam. And he's like, yeah, you know, I really need to figure out. Yeah, I was shy. Sorry. Get all my skinny boys confused. He's like, yeah, got to really figure out the ratio of how much I like want to grab Ariana's ass and stuff.

You know, it's got to be a delicate balance. second she's you know uh reluctant to play ball but uh you know it's just the cameras it's all the camera she doesn't want to do it in front of the cameras and she's like yeah i'm the i'm the like it's exactly the same with the cameras up or down like i don't give two shit like what do i got yeah so uh we'll find out what's going on between those crazy kids yeah i think charlie said that super entertaining sorry it was just funny that they were both in the bathroom clearly Coke together talking like the cameras can't hear them. You guys, how do are you? It's great. It's great. Yeah, but yeah, Charlie is really about to lose the funding for his club.

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