Watch What Crappens - #3512 Crappy Hour 8/24/26: Zolciak Son Arrest, Tracy Tutor Joins RHOBH, Boz Wedding

Episode Date: August 25, 2026

Let’s hang out and read over some Bravo headlines! This week, we talk about RHOBH casting news, Kim Zolciak’s kid being arrested the same week we found out that Nathan from Below Deck Med was arrested last Christmas, and Boz’ wedding! We go live every other Monday at 5:30 PT at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and youtube.com/watchwhatcrappens. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, sign up for our free weekly newsletter and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, hello and welcome to Grabiaw. I'm Ronnie. That's Benuni over there. Hello, Ben. Hi. How's it going? Oh. It's a hot day over here. It's 97 degrees in Los Angeles. So I'm just holding on tight. Of course, neither one of us knew that because we've been inside at the computer all day. I found out online. Yeah, I've been sitting at this at this chair since 10 a.m. I have no idea. Like, even when we're done. I was like, I'm still just working. I'm tooling away on the new YouTube show I announced

last week. The, what's your order? I think I'm going to release it this week at some point once these thumbnails and descriptions are ready. You know, it's really annoying putting out a YouTube video. Do people know this? Having to write that description in a way that YouTube likes it, having to do with the thumbnails. Geez, oh my God. Are you doing pictures of yourself like you're supposed to do on YouTube where you're like, uh, what are the best housewife moment. Do you want to see one of that?

This housewife moment is going to shock you. I mean, we do those. Christina does those for us. Thank God. Thank God. Oh my goodness. It's like the most mortifying thing to have to make these.

But yes, of course I have, um, of course I mean, I'll, I'll, I can bring one up to show you a little, oh, a, of a, of a little bit of a, of a thumbnail. I mean, this is, what's your order. Yeah. What's your order? Let's see. Here's the first episode. I'm dropping three all at once.

But here, let me show you. Everyone, this is the good conduct. You're like, you want to talk about Bravo stuff? What about if we talk about a thumbnail off of a YouTube show? Talk about YouTube thumbnails for Ben's show. Here, let me share this. That works. Look at this.

Look, isn't that cute? Look how cute that is. That is cute. And we're going to be ranking top five, Bravo. dinner parties. A little Courtney from two judgy girls. I love your cards too. I printed out cards.

I don't have the made. I just printed that. I just printed that. I made a logo in and printed out. But like I made it look all very cool and like a real talk show. Pretty good. Isn't that cute? It's going to be great. So great. That'll come out soon. I'm making a new poster for something. We're announcing 20 minutes, you know, three weeks ago. like we were going to, but we haven't yet. It'll come soon, though. So anyway, today, guess what we're announcing on this show?

A lot of depressing shit, because Bravo has been really churning out some dark news lately. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm going through links today and just like, oh, no. Oh, Lord. Kim Zulsiak's son. What else? I mean, that's the most, Hayden Pantir dying.

Diana Jenkins just deleted her in time. hire Instagram today. Did you know that? Or at least deactivate it. Well, do you remember on the show, do not sue us Diana Jenkins? We don't have the kind of money you need. And also, this is all over the internet anyway. But do you remember when Diana Jenkins,

she of the lips, Real Housewives of Beverly has, You need a new will, eh? Ah, here I am. So Diana Jenkins, they asked her, they were questioning her book, Room 23. all, you know, scantily clad or nude celebrities. And then the rumors were that she was a madam. And then these were, this was her selling book, you know, her look book for all the

people she was selling. And those were the rumors. And then Andy asked about it on the reunion. I just saw a clip of it the other day because of all this news. And she's like, oh, this is just so silly that someone would even think this kind of thing about. just laughing. And one of the rumors was Hayden Panetteer was that Diana, sorry, that Hayden mentioned

Diana, but not by name. She said that she was with a friend of hers who was much older and they were on a yacht. And she put her, she put Hayden into a bed with some celebrity, but also not named. And people speculated for the longest time that this is Diana Jenkins. So Hayden Panetteer just passed away. from a cardiac arrest, suspected due to overdose. No one really knows, but she suffered a lot of depression. She's not had it easy.

Hayden Poundeatney's here. She's had a lot of postpartum depression and, you know, her childhood and becoming a star so young. Et cetera. So this renewed all the Diana Jenkins stuff. And I guess it finally got to her enough to get the Insta down. So that's dark. And RIP, Hayden. Yeah.

that's that's a sad story all around and i saw hayden that TM tm z aired a um an archival um interview with hayden's on and off again boyfriend from like i don't know if it was like earlier this year or two years it was recently and the guy was just like fucked up on their interview and he just i was like this guy seems like garbage and uh it's it's a shame that she was not i don't know what the I don't know what the circumstances around her death were, but it seemed like she had bad influences in her life. And it's just it's heartbreaking. Yeah, that's sad.

So that's one thing. Not going to make any jokes about that. Obviously, it don't really have any that I'm even stopping myself. How about that? And then Kim Zolsiak son, Kim Zolsiak and Corey Beerman, not to just play. This is terrible. This is horrible. They're all bad.

They're really bad. But this news, this news is just. It's sickening. Go for it. Have fun. You say it. Sure. I'll do it.

Sexual assault allegations. I'm going to get a gallon of ice cream off the screen. One of those twins, sexual assault allegations. It's terrible. It's really, really terrible. And my heart breaks for the victim of this situation. I mean, I can't be the only one who when Kim, And Croix started going through this terrible, terrible divorce.

I couldn't be the only one that's like, oh, this is, this is going to be terrible for the kids. But I was not expecting was this sort of outcome. And by the way, what sort of weird is like, by me even saying that, it's almost even being weirdly compassionate. And I'm not trying to lean into that. I'm just saying, like, I feel like we, like morbidly, I feel like a lot of us probably saw something terrible coming down the path for these kids. This was not what I was personally expecting. I think it's, I think it's awful. And really the thing, I guess the thing that's like to weigh in about for me is like, Kim, shut up.

She's releasing statements being like, you know, my son is innocent and that woman. I hope someone, someone, whatever, we find out who did this to that woman or whatever it was. But Kim, first of all, I'm never going to, I'm never going to begrudge a parent for standing up for their child. That will, I will, that I get. But like, I don't think that she had to release a public statement, you know? Just, just handle it behind closed doors, Kim. Well, for those of you who don't know what we're really talking about, her son was arrested because he was in a co-ed sauna.

And he apparently grabbed somebody. I mean, the charges are like, a friend of us. Yes, arrested for aggravated sodomy and an aggravated sexual battery in Alpharetta, George on Wednesday. This is on page six that I'm reading from. According to court documents, a female classmate accused KJ of assaulting her in a gym changing area on April 23rd, claiming to authorities that he allegedly forced himself on her despite her saying no while they were in a co-ed sauna. KJ, per the filing, KJ allegedly attempted multiple times to have sexual intercourse with her by trying to pull down her pants. He's also accused of forcing oral sex and digitally penetrating her vagina.

And of course, Kim's statement is like, don't believe everything you hear, you know, innocent until proven guilty, which is kind of the obvious thing to say. But she's like, this girl has accused other people and be careful what you're believing. It's just Kim, Jesus Christ. this is not the time this is really really really bad yeah it's terrible it's really really really terrible and it's

it makes me sad for most for the victim obviously I mean that's just someone whose life is irreparably changed and hurt and damage and affected and that's just it's just it's unfathomable the parents worth worst nightmare too

So it's it's all. It's been nonstop craziness with those two, the couple. The Kim, we avoid Kim Zolsiac news as much as possible on this show. I don't know if you've noticed, but it's every week with Kim and Croy and that back and forth and their divorce and the who's dating who. And this one's dating that one's ex, a wife of that one's ex. And it's just so trashy that it's too trashy even for me. And you're not saying something, you know, as a longtime Bravo watch. But even I'm like, nope, but this one, I mean, my God.

So really dark. So I want to get onto something slightly less dark only because there's only so much everyone can take. Well, I actually, where you're moving on from the story. Well, yes. I want to actually talk about like some things that are like not as within the story that are not as dark. number one, do we think this impacts Ariana and what's, and like her trajectory with next gen New York City? And also like, it seems like Kim was slated to be on this coming episode or two. They tease that like, oh, my mom's coming to town, whatever. Does does, does

the issues with one of the twins, I don't know, honestly, I don't remember which twin it was. Because like KJ and JK, I don't know what their names are. But does that, does that? J.K. I mean, it's really not that far, far fetch. I just feel like it's something that like Kim, KJ and I really don't know. P.B. and R. But like, do we think that like, Bravo shelves an episode?

Do they go forward? I mean, I think the show, I think Next Gen New York City should go on. I feel like Ariana should not be punished for her brother. I think actually by Kim speaking out and releasing that problematic statement, where again, what people really didn't like was that she called the victim like that woman or that woman or something like that. Sort of making the victim seem like, oh, she's like a full on adult. It's like that thing like my son's just a little boy, but she's a woman. She's an adult.

do we think that next gen New York City is going to be impacted Ronnie well look Kim was canceled and fired because of racist stuff and Ariana still became a huge star

I don't know if they're going to what they're going to do with Kim on the next couple of episodes but I think people are judging Ariana or Ariana I always get those wrong but people judge her I think separately from her mom otherwise I don't think

she'd be on TV to Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I think I agree. I agree. I think you should be guilty for the sins of your parents or your family, you know? I mean, also she's lifted up because of her parents and her family, but I don't think that people should, you know, you shouldn't have your family held against you. Right. Whether they will or not, I don't think, I don't think they will. But she's going to have to discuss it, I would imagine a little bit. Although she is from the Bravo. It's like, well, this is really rough. And I don't want to. to talk about it. Right.

And especially on Next Gen New York because they're very influencery on that show. You know, when they talk about their pain, it's very curated, you know, palatable ways. So who knows? I don't know. I hope for her sake it's not. But I'm not really hoping a whole

lot of positivity for Kim in general right now. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappence commercial. Well, I guess while we're staying on the dark things. Nathan, we haven't even talked about Nathan. We'll talk about this more at length, I'm sure, on Below Deck, but we found out this week that right after, by the way, recording the Below Deck recap and talking about Nathan's anger and how scary it was

and his temper, we found out that he was arrested December 27th, this past December 27th, for assaults. And unconsensual, non-consensual chopemential. or non-consensual strangulation or something. And we don't know for sure who it was, but Gail posted like a, but the equivalent of a restraining order. She filed for the equivalent of a restraining order. And they go to court in the beginning of September. I mean, Jesus, it's just, it's like shitstorm after shitstorm over there.

Right. Yeah. I mean, we, like, I personally started to sour on Nathan when he started spouting lots of, like, Islamophobic and, you know, racist shit on his Instagram. And then we've started, you know, then we start seeing this whole, like, you know, oh, his anger issues on the show, his anger, God, but care, keep that anger. But then you see this and you're like, it's, you know, I was already, he was already on our shit list. And then this is just absolutely despicable, too.

I mean, this guy, what a, what a real piece of shit. A lot of true piece of shit. And also now we have to like be on Joe's side. Ugh. Terrible. But I mean, it is, it is pretty, pretty miraculous that this season Joe looks like kind of the heroic figure. I mean, out of all the guys, you've got the bed sploger. Then you've got Nathan.

I mean, then you've got Joe who Joe's past couple of years have been horrible. then you've got freaking Nathan outdoing everybody. Yeah. What a fucking little monster. And he had posted, someone posted on Reddit a video of him like, well, I'm going to following everybody because I just, you know, Instagram's just so unreal. You're looking at everybody be so happy. And it's all so fake.

And so I don't want to, because it's just natural for people to start feeling jealousy and stuff like that. And this was obviously before this news broke and then this news broke. I was like, oh, God. Yeah, he, um, he, Nathan is just a real, he's a real piece of shit. And we have to sit through him whining about how he's not, he's, he, he needs a second chance. And oh, my God, I'm never going to do anything to empower it. And then this happens. Also, I had a really dark thought, which is, remember that, um, the episode where Nathan doesn't show up for work and he's not answering his phone.

And he's like, with some family stuff. I was like, what was happening during that morning? And it's sort of like after seeing these allegations, it just has me a concern that this was not the first time that there was domestic abuse happening with him. And I just,

I don't know. This is just, this is just shitty. Well, usually with something like that, you don't know that it's the first time, but you know pretty, pretty much it's not the last because that doesn't.

That's usually not just a, one and done. Whoops. That's a pattern. Yeah. This chance, Bravo's supposed to be fun. Not fun. Speaking of Amanda and West were setting the internet a blaze again because they posed playing pool. And she was doing a handstand and he was shooting the pool stick between her legs.

It really got the internet on that one. I mean, I was almost glad to see West and Amanda news. pop up, pop up amongst all this stuff. I was like, ah, remember the less problematic times slightly, you know, of what, two months ago? Oh, guys, the memories. Back when we were all so young. Yeah, back in the good old days. Back in the good old days.

Okay, I just have to show you what I'm doing. This is how sad I am. Please. It's really hot outside. And this time of day the sun starts beating in that door behind me, which you can see. so the office gets really hot. I live in an old house. The air conditioning vents are on the floor.

This one is under a built-in. It's under a built-in on the floor. It's the only vent in the office. So I got this little tiny fan. Okay. Do you see it? This little battery operated fan. Lovely.

The plug is a USB thing, but the only USB thing I have is too big to fit into the plug that I have all of my office stuff connected to. So I had to get a USB battery truck. Well, I mean, I have this, but I'm using my little USB thing that goes on the back of my phone. But then I didn't have the, it's a bigger USB. So I have the USB plugged into a mini USB, plugged into a battery thing, plugged into a fan. The fan is on the floor trying to catch the air from the vent.

And then I've got it propped up on a plug, another outlet to just get me. And it's not angling. So that's why I keep bending down, trying to get the air. Come on, man. This is so sad. Why is this weak torturing me? I'm going to hold it with my foot. Okay.

I'm just, I'm just, I love this setup that you have. Yeah, get a box fan. You should get the fan that I just put on Amazon Live earlier today. All right, all right. The tall one, no, I need it to be little and go. The vent is like this big under a built-in. So I'm trying to catch it up and tilt this tiny fan up at me. That's why it's so little.

But I just can't make it work. All right. What else you want to talk about here? Well, let's see. I'm totally depressed. Well, let's talk about this wedding that Bozma St. John had over the weekend. She had her Ghanaian wedding. And so there were these videos that were all over.

social media of her fellow castmates, all there, all dressed in sort of like an African garb. And I don't know why. I was like cracking up because you see Jennifer Tilly and she has whatever the, I don't know what you call the head. It was like a headpiece. And I was like, oh, that's so cool. And then I see it on Doree and I was like, Appropriator. But it was just so funny because I feel like with Jennifer Tilly, like there's a sense of

like, oh, I'm going to honor the culture. And with Doretti, she's like, but look at me. I'm Ginegan now. I just was cracking up with her in their area. And then there's also like, and then I think Sutton had it also. Like some of them had it. And I just, you know, I think it was probably the greater context of it was, I would not be surprised if like Bose gave them to them and said, well, I want you to wear them for

the wedding. But I don't know, for some reason seeing Doreet in one just cracked. me up. What about you? The clips going around are them dancing, you know, they're dancing in the center of this big crowd and Doreet is literally getting down. I mean, she's like squatting on the ground and doing just deriding out. And I mean, I think maybe only Ramona has her beat. Romona has like a really famous dance scene like that where you're just like, oh God. But yeah, But Ramona has her beat, but this one's pretty. But it's all of them.

I mean, you've got Sutton, Kathy, all these ladies. Kathy apparently licked the, like put her finger in the cake and then sucked it off. Oh, that's great. That's classic. Yeah. Yeah. Don't tell Heather DeBro about that. Yeah.

I can only imagine how many problematic things Kathy said over the course of their time there. Ghana. All of them. It's good. I'm cringing. I mean, there's at least, I'm already cringing at the thought of Sutton, Doreet, and Kathy. Who else? You know, who else? What do we what do we have to look forward to? But Bose looked extremely happy. It looked like a huge, beautiful event. Did you see the cake being dropped from the ceiling? They had the cake on. It's a huge cake, first of all. It's not. Oh, I didn't see this at all. It's this humongous cake. And it's being low. lowered from the ceiling, like in the theater, you know, like a fly system and it's being kind of winched down. It's like, and you're just like, oh, no, God, what's going to happen to this cake? And then I guess it comes down and Kathy just sticks her finger in it and and looks her hand. So, well, it's a lot.

Bose is over the top, though, that damn cake. It's like, please don't earn anybody with this cake. What about the children? Watch a children. I need to find Bose in this cake. I need to find I need to find the to see what's going on with Bose cake. I'm looking it up. Yeah, but Bose's cake being lowered. Bose, Bose cake. It keeps on trying to offer me box cake. I'm like, no, Bose cake being lowered. No, no, like I will not. Yeah, I don't want boxes cake. Okay, Bose's wedding, cake cutting. Would this be it? Here, I'll it to you so you can put it on the screen well i guess we don't need to hear the oh you do it you do it okay i think i found i think i've got it okay okay so everyone this is gonna be on we show the cake i need to see the cake it's it's coming everyone it's coming share screen window when you're watching

when you're just scrolling stuff doom scrolling in bed or whatever that's when i see most of this stuff so this one i didn't even have the sound on so in my mind the cake is coming down and in my you know my inner sound effects like are you guys ready for the descending cake yeah so there's all these sort of like it says click to exit full screen well i i don't i want to be in full screen that's so rude okay is that better yeah just maybe zoom in on it with your just pinch zoom or whatever you do it doesn't doesn't help unfortunately oh come okay well we can get the base well the cake is coming down Wow, there it is. See?

A dangling cake. Oh, and then it goes a little more. And are we getting? No, that's as far as it goes. I don't know if I need a cake to come down like that. Oh, a little bit more. Okay. And here comes a gentleman.

That cake with arms. It's a trepidacious trip that that cake is taking. I know. And then Keeley has some sort of saber. And they're going to cut. See, here's the thing. This is why you don't dangle a cake because now when you cut it, it's very unstable.

Now a man has to, has to hold it. Okay, they're going to saber the cake. It was already creaky coming down. Don't take a saber to it. Yeah. Poor thing has been through enough or cake. Yeah. It's been through enough.

So you imagine being in charge of that cake? What a terrifying thought. Like, this is your responsibility. This gigantic. What is that like a 10 foot tall cake? It's like, I've worked with pink and Bose is wedding cake. I'm really good at them with these things. Yeah, that's big on your resume, probably.

What about this news of Tracy Tudor joining Real Housewives of Beverly Hills? How do you feel about that? Well, she, I've watched her every season on a million dollar listing, and I liked her okay. I don't know that I need it. It's not, I don't, I need more camp. You know, Tracy doesn't give a lot of camp, but she is. very smart and very funny. And she was dating that really young guy. That was kind of campy for a little while. I don't know what. I just need to say camp every five seconds. It's like a thing,

I guess. But I need more Jennifer Tilly. And not necessarily that, but I'm not a hater. I mean, I watched all of a million dollar listing with her. So there's that. And I know she was on Jeff Lewis a while back giving Doreet gossip and saying Doreet didn't pay her makeup people. You know, they know the same makeup people. And Doree owes this. make a person thousands of dollars and it was kind of a scandal but do I really need more derit being poor seemed I mean durit's going to be going through it already you know this year with her house is it being foreclosed on is it not they keep getting a hold and nah nah nah I don't know I was kind of hoping that the focus would go away from deri but it seems like

they got themselves another derreet heyda what do you think about it um you know you know No, I didn't really watch a lot of Tracy's seasons when she was on million dollar listing. She seems fine. I mean, she's media trained. She's used to being in front of the camera, so that's good. She's of this world. I don't know. I kind of was hoping for someone new.

Like, yeah. I don't know. I'm like, I get, I am totally open and fine for a, Tracy, but I don't know. There's just, it doesn't make me that excited. Doesn't make me not excited. But to me, it's, I sort of reached it with like a shrug. I just want, you know what it is? I think I want older, more fabulous people. I mean, and Tracy Tudor's a little older, but I don't know. I just feel like they with Beverly Hills, they're always trying to cast people who are, I don't know, like, not, it's not this, not fashionable. I don't think of Tracy Tudor is like, oh, you're fashionable. But I don't know. I can't know. I can't. I can't put my finger on what it is about Tracy. I want more people like Sutton. I want like very wealthy and also very diluted. A Tracy Tudor, I don't know.

It's like... I feel like every time the million dollar listing people go to other shows or make appearances in other shows, it's like inherently annoying. So the fact that one now has a permanent presence is like not exciting for me. Tracy's role on a million dollar listing was very much like, you guys are crazy. Come on now. Let's bring it back. Like Josh, it was the two Josh's, you know. And so one Josh is like, Josh, you need to be drinking less and be less bitter and be less wacky to people. You need to get it

together. Another Josh, you need to stop being such an egomaniac. So that's kind of a role. And I don't, I don't necessarily need someone to mind everybody else. I need another like cuckoo person that needs to be told, calm down stop acting crazy so i don't know but we'll see it's a different arena i guess i worry i think it's probably going to be marissa although marissa did not have half of the charisma or marissa zanick that tracy has yes and the reason i think that is because she was from another real estate show the million dollar not listening but what was it She was on, New York apartments

selling New York. There's so many of them now, but it's one of the original. It's hard to keep up. But it was one of the low budge ones where they would sell apartments in New York. It wasn't selling New Yorker was like,

I forget. I forget what it was, but God, I always forget about Morris. I watch so many of those. I know. But, yeah, I think, I don't know.

I think I'm looking forward to this season because I know that Kyle and Derreet are having issues. I think that they are really entertaining when they are feuding. I liked the feud with how Erica got dragged into it. But I need Sutton to be activated again. I need someone who's going to go after Sutton. I mean, maybe Tracy Tudor is that person. Maybe Tracy Tudor has some crazy story about how she tried to sell a house for Suss. or buy a house for Sutton and then Sutton was not helpful and they had some falling out.

Like that would be nice. But, um, yeah. I don't know. I never know. She had too much of an ass kissy to Kyle's season because she was without a friend that season. So hopefully that won't continue, but I think it's going to continue. But it's time will tell. I think I'm just most worried for the cake.

I'm just glad the cake came down at the end of the day. I always feel that. I say that all the time. I'm glad the cake came down. Commercials. Here comes one right now. Some other funny news on Atlanta. I mean, they just had a really, really intense, and intense, I mean, hilarious.

But they pack so much into their reunions. They just finished their three-part reunion. One of the things they were arguing about towards the end of the season was Greg. Wasn't it in the reunion when Angela was saying, Kelly, you owe all this money? Who owns your house? Who owns your house? You own all this money to a guy named Gary. That's his name, Gary.

So Gary filed to garnish Kelly's wages because I guess that that's true. And she does owe him. Let's see. Gary comes for Kelly's Real House of Atlanta paycheck garnishment filed against Real Housewives of Atlanta production company. Dang. Hold on. And Kelly was such an asshole on that reunion about getting all that legal advice from Fadra. Well, not even advice.

Fadra won her case. And then she's still being an asshole about Fadra behind her back. And then when she was questioned about it, she's like, oh, whatever. It's not like she did it for free. I gave her $10,000. And besides, my other lawyers who I paid a quarter of a million dollars to did most of the work, Fadra just had to take their notes and use that. I mean, she was just such an asshole. So have fun.

I think Kelly's can get lost in the sauce. I think she's lost in the sauce of reality TV. And I think she's, I don't know, she's just trying to push through in this cast. And like, between Portia and Angela and Kay Michelle and Fadra and. and Drew, I don't know, like, there are just so many bigger personalities, or not even bigger, just more interesting personalities, Cynthia, that like, she just keeps on making noise. And like, it's like, why don't you focus on being interesting instead of being, you know, instead of being snappy?

Meaning, like, she's always trying to come up with something. She's always trying to be, you know, like, horses, horses, horses. It's like, why don't you be more, like, give us something more interesting about your personality for us to actually root for you and care about you. Because right now you're just trying to clapbacks, and that's all that you have. And if you're going to be shady, I need better than Horsha.

Like just calling someone a whore, well, rhymes with Porsche or her other one. You have big feet. That's her. Yeah. That's her big slam to Angela. Of course, Angela's is, well, you're poor. And it just goes back and forth.

And it ended up, it happened so many times. by the end I just was cracking. I don't know. Even someone else is fighting and then they would jump in. Well, what about your big feet? Well, you're poor. You don't even have a house. I feel like I could just totally imagine what Kelly was like on the school bus

around like third grade. You know, she probably was always, she probably was just like going off on everyone all the time and saying, you know, you know, or she's not going off on everyone. But there's always that like one really annoying kid on the school bus. who's like generally quiet during school. And then on the school bus, they're like really annoying. And it's like, my mom does this. My mom.

You should have to my mom. Because my mom. And you're just one. I kind of like, that's the energy that she has. It's like, kid on the school bus, like standing over the seat and saying, my mom says that you're stupid, you know? And I just like, that's the vibe I get from her. Is that universal?

Is that a universal experience? No, but I'm definitely immersed in your childhood memory now. Who was this? What did they do to poor bad? No, like, there were just like, there were always, there were always, there were just always these certain, there were these certain girls on the bus who they just got very feisty on the school bus. They'd be quiet in school and on the school bus. The big thing on the school bus was, it was like, it was like, Jolly Ranchers was the currency of the school bus. Like if you had Jolly Ranchers, like everyone liked you. Everyone put their hand out.

Can I have a Jolly Rancher? On my school bus it was. And there was always like some girl who had like the jolly ranchers. It was like, I'm not going to give you jolly ranchers because I don't like you. Like it wasn't even to me necessarily. It wasn't like me. This wasn't my trauma. It was just trying to have a quiet school bus ride and like some annoying, some annoying

classmate just being so loud and annoying about jolly ranchers all the time. I think that was me though. I was not thinking what what do you mean annoying girls on the bed? I think that I was that I think I was with the annoying I mean that's me I was always hanging out with the girls and I mean that was probably me I got mostly tortured by boys in school. That's who got my ass all the time. Thank God for the girls. That's why I love doing this. It's like I'm with I'm with girls, you know? I mean, you're a guy obviously, but you're like one of my girlfriends and then yeah the Bravo people are mostly women like that's how I that's how I roll is how I've rolled. How I've rolled ever since So as a kid. So when you say those annoying girls, I'm like, oh, that was me. Sorry, Ben. I did not have Jolly Ranchers, though, because my mom, she was so conscious about calories growing up that she would say, you eat one Jolly Rancher with cinnamon, and that'll get you through.

If you're having a craving, just one Jolly Rancher, it was like very 80s diet mom, you know? Yeah. Because, like, that's five calories or whatever the hell it was. So I still feel tortured by fucking Jolly Rancher. I just feel like somebody's calling me fat, you know? It's like a Jolly Ranter is not going to solve the craving for a tub of ice cream, you know? Or a whole pizza one fucking Jolly Rancher. Get out of here.

Now, like, for people who were like, it wasn't like, oh, the girls were the only annoying ones. It was just like that was the expression. That was the, that was the way that the annoying girls on the school bus, that was their vibe. The annoying boys just had a whole different vibe. They were just annoying in a different way, like little boy away that were, it's like annoying. But yeah, I just like to me, Kelly has that vibe. I'm not saying she's a bad housewife. I just feel like I'd like there to be some like a character development on her part because I don't know.

Like I think that it's, I think being a really good housewife is more than just being able to have a clapback. Like there's got to be something there that's like inviting and warm and you want to root for them, you know? Yeah, I don't necessarily need to root for the end. This is why I'm disagreeing because I'm about to talk Real House Lives of London. Now, this show has been cracking me the fuck up. We're not covering it on Crappins because they're releasing two a week and we had all this going on. But I'm still watching that shit and I am dying laughing. One of the best things to happen to TV in a long time is one of the most delusional people that you absolutely,

I don't think anybody roots for her, but I root for her never to leave TV. And that is Amanda. Have you been watching this shit? She finally gets activated when they bring Juliet Angus on. Juliet Angus is one of the most obnoxious Americans to ever roam the planet. And she gets right under this woman's skin.

And they apparently used to be friends during COVID. And then Juliet comes in and she's saying, Oh, yeah, I know, Amanda, because we were best friends. Amanda's like, we were never best friends, darling. She's like, yeah, what do you mean? We're never friends. They're saying we were never friends. I never said we were best friends.

So then this starts this huge fight. And it ends with what we saw on the coming this season thing where Juliet's like, oh, really? Well, how's all that alcohol for you? No, she tells Julia, how's all that alcohol for you, darling? She's like, good, how's all that OZMPIC? She's like, great. I've lost eight stone.

She is so fucking funny to me. And she does a little shimmy whenever she's got one up on somebody. She's like, oh, oh, really? Well, she just doesn't understand what it's like being a model. I'm sorry, I'm gorgeous. I'm sorry that I'm so pretty, but other girls just don't like me because I'm pretty. That's what I need. Yeah, Amanda is so funny.

I mean, when Juliet, this is Real Housewives of London, for those who missed that. But when Juliet Angus was like, we were best friends, actually. You don't remember we were best friends? And she's like, it was locked down. There was slim pickings. Like, it's like I visited your trashy American world because there was a pandemic. It was like, like, the only way in the world I would ever hang out with you would be is if I went outside of you, I would like die from a deadly disease. So like you're all that's left.

I was just, it was just, it was just amazingly cold and hilarious. Ooh, that scene was just so unruffled. And she, you know, the first episode of the whole series was Amanda throwing a women's, women's, what was it? Like women empowerment party. Women empowerment. Yes, we're just going to get together to uplift women because that's what we do. And then a fight breaks out. It's like, oh, women acting like this at women's empowerment.

Like, they're fighting about teeth. She's so polite. But then right when Julia comes for her, she's just so unbothered and just. reads her for filth and it's hilarious because Juliet doesn't know what to do. You're saying, I can't believe she's calling me a bad mother. She told her, give me a break. You can't even keep a man Amanda. I mean, you call the, you call the tabloids, even if you've gone on one day with the guy.

And she was like, fair, fair. That's a good one. I need something like that on Beverly Hills. And I need more of that kind of read from Kelly, more than just like, you're a holler and your feet are too big. Yeah, I think we need also just these British casts have been really bringing it. It's a shame that like our American audiences is somehow not giving them love. Like we're, these are great shows. And for some reason, people are not connecting with them.

I think part of that is because Bravo was not promoting them enough. I think Ladies of London when it arrived, it got like a nice promotional thing. Like here comes some British people, but it didn't get like a crazy, crazy promotional push. And there was a huge amount of buzz. But I still thought it was going to perform better than it did. But you know, Bravo's, I don't know.

It's hard to say what's going to pop and what's not going to pop because Bravo promoted the hell out of Ultimate Girls trip. And apparently that's not doing very well. So, I don't know. It's not doing so bad. Girls trip. I read that it only got like 200,000 views or something like that. Oh, I was read.

Let me, okay, go ahead and keep talking. I'll look on the. I mean, the thing is this ratings don't really mean anything. They care about ratings, but they also care about chatter, which is why I was surprised about lazy London. I feel like it had a huge amount of ratings. Ratings don't matter. Yeah.

I mean, Miami's not back. They say that live ratings don't matter. It's just not true. Until there's another way to measure this stuff, you still can't measure online, except for what they tell you. They'll say, oh, we've got 19 billion seconds of a show streamed. What the fuck does that even mean? What are you guys talking about? Stop it.

Yeah. Yeah. Girls trip had 0.473 million episode 2, which is, it's a little, I mean, Atlanta does really well. That's 0.622. Mm-hmm. But that's really not bad for them. I mean, London is getting like 120,000 people in love.

Yeah, but London is getting really bad. Again, zero promotion. It's just frustrating. It's frustrating like when Love Island is on. It's this huge show and they go out of their way to channel people into the McBee Dynasty. Like if you're, once you're current with Love Island, it's like next up like, like, McB Dynasty.

And it's like, why are you channeling it into this show that's like not representative of the Bravo brand? it's like poorly made it's boring as hell why do we cover micbee instead of london you know there's a couple of people asking in here i think that's a fair question because we're kind of the same we're like well we're not you know why are you channeling all this but we channeled our energy kind of to that instead of covering london yeah i mean the well the thing is this i hate starting a season and then just like abandoning it midway through um also they're no one was asking for London and our and I don't think we got very good numbers on our end about it but that doesn't if we like to recover show we like we'll we'll cover a show but I was mainly doing it for you Ronnie I know you love McBee for me yeah get out of here I don't listen I think we both you got a lot of good reaction from your make be I did it was that was really fun though that was very that was very fun I think that was well no how about this last year I was only doing it for you

Only doing it for you. And honestly, to this, like, I, people really think I'm being, like, jockey about it. I, I have to watch the shows in three parts because after 20 minutes, I'm like, I can't watch this anymore. I have to go do something else. And I come back and I watch another 20 minutes and then I go do something else. And I come back and I do it again.

Like, I, people don't really realize how it's like, it's a miserable experience for me. Miserable, miserable. But I think that's also what's really enjoyable about hearing your take on it because you don't give a fuck on that one. I think sometimes you'll be like, well, I don't, you know, I don't want to be too harsh on the real house. I mean, I'm just more naturally a hater, I think. So when you are really like, fuck these people, like you do not give a fuck. You don't care what those people think, you know, or that general audience, I think, in general, which I think helps.

And it really does make it so fucking funny to listen. I mean, I just sit here cracking up listening to you. I just, my personal reason is beyond the fact that it's really fun making fun of people that I absolutely despise and detest is it's huge ratings. It's one of the biggest shows on Bravo. Like we, you know, people, people watch it. What are you going to do? And I do think it's trash.

So much happens on that show. And I do love watching Galena. And I love my fun of call. you know, all those people. So I don't know, whatever makes the most fun recap. Ladies of London, I love now, but it took me probably, I liked it when it first came on. But I didn't think, oh, this is great. And I think I still had maybe some resentment about Ladies of London going away because I loved that one.

So Real Housewives of London at first, I was like, I don't know. It just seems like another, it's like, let's do another housewives thing. They're doing all the tropes. They're doing all the same activities or going to the. the castle. They're doing the blah, blah. I was just thought, I don't know. I don't need this, but I kept watching it because parts of it would crack me up. And now, now that they're really getting triggered or like they're really showing themselves, like Amanda, I'm cracking up. Part of it bugged me because it was just so faky. Like, hello, darling, we're polices.

And I thought, I cannot. I cannot take 12 episodes of this. But of course, it's housewives. So the whole point is you start out that way and then they start to get you until your real anger comes out. You know, it's so funny, New York Times is running an article right now, 36 hours in the Cotswaltz. I was like, oh, I loved London from the start. That's like my kind of show. That's my jam. And you're right. I mean, like we, I do love the positive feedback people give me for the McBee Dynasty because I really, I hate

show so much that like you normally i'm concerned about yucking people's yum a little bit i don't want to be just full of net negativity but on that show i just i feel like something's been taken from me when i watch it so i need to take something back and so i i just don't give a fuck with that one um i think if i had like my druthers and like we also like we we recap the shows that get really good that get good ratings for us that's important for us like we have we do have to pay attention to like what shows do well with our own numbers. And if I had like my druthers, I probably would say I would not recap Ultimate Girls Trip.

I probably wouldn't recap Next Gen New York City. I love Next Gen New York City. It's a pandas to recap that one. It's just so much stuff moving at every, like scenes are five seconds long and they like, it goes in so many different directions. I would do London. I would do,

uh, I guess I would just do London in their places. I don't know, but it's hard. Like we have to make so many decisions. in terms of like what we cover, what we don't cover. It's like very, very frustrating, generally speaking, because it's just never as simple as like,

hey, let's cover this show because we like this show. There's a lot of times there are shows we really love and want to cover. We never get to cover. It makes me sad. Yeah, and I know a lot of people have political reasons, like a lot of reasons to not, to just hate what McBee stands for. I was reading the head of Bravo saying in an interview, like, you know, that's part of the audience.

audience is this, you know, we have to go for this, this audience now to reflect the times. And I thought that's, I hate that. But that's still the only show on TV where someone has kidnapped chickens and taken a crowbar to one of these asshole Bravo men's car. Okay. Multiple times, actually. That's fair. So, you know, I mean, you've got, you've got that, but you've also got Galena with a crowbar. And Ginger, the chicken.

God knows what happened to Ginger, you know? I don't think. I appreciate like her, her swath of destruction, but I, I just am not, I just am, I still am,

I don't know, I'm not convinced, but whatever. The, the, the debate will rage on for time eternal. What I,

but I did, what I, what I was going to mention, sorry. I was going to mention, oh wait, people are asking about real housewives of Montana in the comments here.

And, um, I know very little. about it. I am for it. I actually would rather have, I, so I, okay, but here's a trigger warning for people, because I know this will cause

a very negative reaction for some people. Too late. I went on to Nick Viles' podcast again, everyone. Is everyone okay? Is everyone okay? And he asked about Real Housewives in Montana, and what I said on there

was, I'm for it because I kind of feel like McBee Dynasty was what Bravo was trying to cash how bravo was trying to cash in on what's his face uh all the taylor shardin shows like yellowstone and i said i think i would like a real real house with montana i would be happy with that but what was so crazy was oh my god all these people from montana they put that clip on social and all these people from montana are raging in the comments like no we don't want the real housewives here we don't want that here we don't want any of that here i'm like people you should be so lucky to have a real housewives franchise.

It'd be wonderful, wonderful, but they are not having it. It's hilarious. Yeah, a couple of things about that. One was that some of those comments, I read a lot of them, and they're like, well, these are just the fake people. These aren't even the people really from Montana. These aren't the real Montana. These are just a bunch of rich people who move here and go stay at the Yellowstone Club or buy,

you know, well, duh, it's housewives. Of course, it's all the, you're going to get the biggest, fakesst transplants with the most money and the cheesiest mansions. Like, holler, this is real housewives, you guys. This is not a literal documentary about your lives. Also, other cities have been really pissed off, too. I mean, Salt Lake City wasn't happy that they were getting a housewives. So many, a summer house was super pissed that they, they're still pissed that they have a summer house. They still can barely shoot anywhere.

for that show. A lot of places don't like it. I don't think you're supposed to be super proud of it. You know, it's a shame that you, you carry with you and you have a small pride about it that you don't brag about it. But you hope that when you go out, you see somebody somewhere, you know. Yeah. And you go post it to all your friends. And you're like, I saw so-and-so shooting here. You're going to love it. Just give into it. I mean, I also feel like it was just like two years ago that like a Montana politician beat up someone in a bar. And like, and you're concerned about the real housewives, I think it'll be okay. It's a big state.

Whatever contamination they bring to the state will be contained to a very small proportion of it. Let us let, let Bravo in. Aren't they going to shoot it in somewhere called Gallatin, Montana, which is the same as Gallatin, Missouri. Isn't that where the McBees took place? Or am I doing is my head playing games? That I don't know. Gallatin, Montana. That I have no idea about it.

Galatine County is a fast-growing high-y-y-y-beys-lawing. scenic region in southwest Montana with bozeman as its country seat yeah because i read that they were shooting it in galatin and i was like galatin i was thinking of the mcbee's which obviously is missouri and i thought what in the world are they going to shoot for housewives in galatin we've seen galitin on mcby and now that i would have a problem with you know doing the real housewife show there but it's the other galitin it's on montana and apparently that's a really rich fuffy area with a bunch of phony transplants. I mean, I'm in.

I'm never going to complain about a new housewives coming out. You can put real housewives of a gas station. Well, actually, they kind of did on Potomac. They had their season finale in like the gas station parking lots and stuff. Yeah. It was great. Also, like, what about like, what was I going to say? I don't know what I was going to say.

But I am also for for it. Also, who are these people who are following? Nick Vile, but then also are like anti-Bravo. What are you doing? You're following the wrong shows. Okay? If you're following any podcast that cares about Bravo in any form, then you should be open to the real housewives coming into your neighborhood.

That's my theory. Yeah, everyone's afraid that their area is going to be, you know, be smouched or whatever. Their reputation will be besmirched. But I don't know. That's just the way of reality. What are you going to do about it? I did want to tell you one make me a thing before we take calls. Did you see the video of Cole and Stephen Jr. in their podcast studio?

I started to watch it, but like the show itself, I found it boring. And so I stopped. What happened? Yeah. Well, Ali had his ex-girlfriend, Ali, someone was asking, what about the horse? Didn't he buy you a horse or was a horse? And she said, well, I never got the horse. He still hasn't given me the horse.

and he went on his whatever they're doing, selling tallow or whatever the fuck they're doing. I just saw a clip of it. But he's like, let me tell you. Oh, first of all, someone sent him in Instagram and said, why don't you give her the horse? And he's like, fuck you, listen here. You don't know a goddamn thing about this horse. And he just rails into this lady on Instagram. Of course, you posted it everywhere.

And then he goes on this, whatever it is. And he's like, now listen here. Everybody's asking me about this horse. Who paid for that horse? I did. I paid $16,000 for that horse. You know what? And then I had to pay $2,000 to get that horse shipped to me. And then she breaks up with me and then she cheats on me with some guy at stagecoach.

And what I'm supposed to just give her horse? I mean, what the hell? I mean, what do you want a gift for doing that to somebody? And he's just going off about this horse. Aren't you guys broke as hell? Isn't everything you're, you owned being taken? What are you spending 16 grand on a horse for some lady that you've known for a couple of months? What's wrong with this man?

Yeah, I don't, I don't I don't understand I don't understand They're demented Craven It's a It's a tree with a hole And a muscle jigsaw

And they're on They're on the internet What else do you expect Oh gosh All right Well that brings us to the end Of the listening portion of this show We're going to take a couple of calls from you guys on YouTube.

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