Watch What Crappens - #3523 Next Gen NYC S2E011 Part One: Hitting the Slopes

Episode Date: September 3, 2026

This is part one of a 2-part recapNext Gen NYC is still on a ski trip, and Liam starts questioning his long term marriage to Ariana. Or his few week flirtation. Don’t question his feelings just go with it. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, hello and welcome to Watchwood Craffins, a podcast about all the crap we love to talk about. On Yeo Bros. I'm Ronnie Carroll, and that's Ben Mandelker. Hello. Hello, Ben. How you doing? Cute guy? I'm doing great thanks. How are you doing? Good. Everybody, welcome to the show. It's Next Gen NYC Day. So that's that's a good. So that's Super fun. We're going to recap that. If you want bonus episodes, we talked about Love Island Reunion and Ladies of London and This Weeks, those are always good. Ben has a new show on

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Most likely Coke at Charlie's house. Why the hell else is everybody going else to Charlie's house at two in the morning? Is Charlie just a good Coke dealer? And also it explains why no one will stay mad at Charlie. Why do they just keep going back to him? Yeah, it does explain why no one is mad at him. Because he just must be providing everything. The Coke, maybe he has some like spin thrifts in the fridge that they really like,

maybe a massage chair. He clearly has something that they are, that they're there. Obviously, we know he has a very good Bluetooth speaker. So that for sure is going to be a draw. But yeah, they're all going there a lot at 2 in the morning. Yeah. Bluetooth speaker. Snorting off a Bluetooth speaker.

Yeah, someone sent me an email or a DM on Instagram saying, why haven't you mentioned that they're probably going to Charlie's house for Coke? I just kind of assumed we all assumed that. But yeah, thanks for pointing it out. They're probably going over there for Coke. Also, can we get a better drug? I'm not even judging the Coke. I mean, I loved Coke for a very long time, but God, it's expensive, and it really hurts your nose.

And the follow-up is really just not worth it. We need a new drug, as Huey Lewis once said. You know what, Huey? I agree with you. Someone get on that. Seriously, bravo, fix the names of ladies of London and Real Housewives of London. Get us something better than Coke. please you know i mean if there's any show if there's anything that we've learned from this show is that

you actually don't need money you don't need fame you don't need no credit card to ride this train yeah but see that all of that was also not true you actually need all three of those things and a good social media account um yeah healy lewis was kind of a liar but we do need a So let's get on to this. This is season two, episode 11, The Bunny Hill I Die On. That's a big promise in a title. It's, yeah, yeah, I mean, it's, you are,

someone's gonna take a stand this episode. That's what we know. And we begin back in Wyndham, New York. Oh, but also, I'm saying someone's gonna die. You can't start off a murder mystery and then end it with nobody die. You know, like someone's gonna die, who's it gonna be? And then it's no one. Not that I want people on this show to die.

I just, we also need a better title. Gen Z murder mystery is like, guys, why does anyone have to die? The mystery could just be that we were on a journey together. Yeah. So I think it works. Yeah. It's not about the destination. It's about the journey.

So we're at this ski trip. And we see everybody's skiing. And Liam's trying to teach Kenney. had to stop on her skis, and I thought, is it going to be Kendall that dies? Because I saw the title of the episode. She didn't. And he's like, well, I'm a ski instructor, but it's a tough morning. So, you know, I want to do a shred.

I just want to shred. It's been really difficult, you know, talking about my love life with Ariana, admitting that I loved her. But the point is, this is the slope. And on the slope, we shred. And so that we see. see flashbacks of their contentious dinner the night before. And Liam is like, guys, let's fucking send it.

Come on, let's shred. And then the producer's like, so if anyone like, you just like, your mindset is if anyone needs me, I'll be on the mountain. And he's like, yeah, I fucking wish, but I'm just gonna be on the bunny hill. The life of the ski instructor actor. Amira is skiing with her Birken

because she's doing TikToks while she skis because all of my life. It's about content. Do you know what it's like? Not being even able to escape content for two seconds. I can't even ski on a fucking buddy hill. I'm sure the people at Bergen really loved that, seeing their thousands and thousands of dollars' work of craftsmanship,

just being tumbled around on a slope in Wyndham, New York. But that's who should own Birkins. People who don't even, you know, people who are so rich that they can just take their Birken skiing. That's true. That's true. It's like, it's, it's definitely a flex. Although as Durinda Medley would say, wealth whispers and money screams and middle class is like, hey, how's it going? That's a new part of it. You didn't hear that part. So now the group goes to lunch and George is like, walking on snowloot is so demeaning. The people, the marginalized populations throughout history that have had to walk in snow boots, it's maddening. Yeah.

We really haven't discussed enough. The poor people who had to walk in snow boots. I feel like we've come a long way in 2026, but, you know, we've still got a long way to go, guys. Let's just keep trucking, okay? Snowbirds and Charlie. For Snowbird wear this. Another thing we're not talking about enough is like how many food options they have in grocery stores. It's insane.

Have you ever tried to wear snow boots into a grocery store to look at all the breadth of food options and then kick you out because you're wearing snow boots? It's so demeaning. It's so demeaning to be so close to so many options and not be able to partake. Kendall and Charlie are at opposite ends of the table, and the producer asked Kendall if she's bonded with Charlie, and she's like, no. Do you bonded with anyone? Why are we cutting to Kendall? This is not the way to start an episode.

We have so much Kendall this episode. It's hilarious. So she's like, last night I heard a lot, and I didn't like what I saw. But I'm like, I hate to be a nitpicker, but like, you heard a lot, so you didn't like what you heard. It's not that you heard a lot. I didn't like what you saw.

I'm sorry. Let's be consistent about the thing, how you consume the information. But she goes, but what really did not sit well with me was Liam this morning. He didn't even tell me something was wrong. I just saw it on his face, and I didn't like what I heard. Am I doing it wrong? I didn't look what I, I didn't like what I heard on his face. It felt weird.

The texture of it was weird. So we see Liam making breakfast and she's like, oh, I heard you and Ariani talking to like 6 a.m. Are you okay? He's like, ugh. I'm fine. I will be okay. I will be. I will be. Just concentrate on the pancakes. It's difficult. Just difficult morning for it. I'm just going to get through it like the actor I am. Shred. Just going to shred those with a pancake, put a pancake in my mouth and just shred down the slope. The bunny's hell that is, because I'm a ski instructor. I help people.

what I do. It's my lot in life. I help. I help. So then, so Kendall's telling us that Ariana and Charlie really get along well and she's not saying anything, but she is kind of saying something because they get along really well. Maybe something's going on. Now, um, not like what she's smelling. Yeah. So Ariana is thanking Jesus for the amazing food and um, Kendall's saying, why has it so many Kendall? Every time I hit another I'm not a Kendall hater. I love just... Listen, I love an unnatural

reality star. It's actually one of my favorite things and Kendall is like the latest in that mode for me. She does not know what she's doing. She's awkward. She has no screen presence. But like it's one of those things where someone is so bad at it that I then grow to really enjoy their awkwardness.

And so that's what Kendall is for me. So she's now, they give her this like line from Big Brother to recite where she goes, Ariana's the religious one, but Liam and I really need to have a come to Jesus moment right now. I was like, oh, Kendall, you're better than this. You're better than this. But if she was on Big Brother, she'd be saying it a lot more loudly. She'd be like, She's the one who likes Cheezlets, but we need to have a come to Jesus. But doing, or she'd do the Sing-Song version. You either scream it on Big Brother or you say,

Ariada is the religious one, but Liam and I really need to have a come to Jesus moment right now. Yeah. That is literally the worst diary room coaching of all reality TV is on Big Brother. It's like they don't even like they just are like, yeah, just read just see. We'll give you a line. Just say it in the most stilted, strange way. Feel free to either scream it or pretend like you're sort of singing a song as you say it. Yeah, I just imagine like a stage mother like Mama Rosa.

in the front being like, I was singing to the rap dance, honey, we can't hear you. There's this one girl who's on the season who literally was, when I say she was screaming in the confessional, she was literally shrieking and screaming because she was very frustrated about something. And I was like, okay, we've gone too far. We need to have like a decibel, like, limit on Big Brother. Also, by the way, Big Brother is amazing this season. It's a top 10 season for me. It is so good. I'm so glad I'm back. Damn it. Of course, I couldn't take another season, and so I didn't watch it. No, understandably.

And we were talking to somebody from Big Brother at that party we were at last week, Brittany, who obviously I love from Big Brother. I said, how you doing? She's like, good, you know, a little tired after last night. That was crazy. So what did you do last night? She's like, Big Brother? I was on Big Brother last night. She said, I feel a lot. It's the first season I'm not watching. I didn't know that you were there. Damage. And another guy was like, how are you not watching the season?

They killed off Rachel. They killed her off in the very first episode. They threw her into a volcano. Yeah, I don't know. Like, it's like the show is working for me. They made some, like, the smallest tweaks and it like has come back to life for me. So I'm, I heard that actually last season was really good, but I missed it because the season, I don't know. But like, I'm happy to say Big Brother is killing it.

right now. So good. Anyway, that's just where Kendall takes us, anywhere else but her. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. So now, Shai, they all are, they've all gone skiing and now they've all convened for lunch, as you mentioned before, because we have this table situation with Charlie and Kendall. And Shai comes over with like a tray, but since he's walking in those demeaning snow boots, he's like very careful, afraid he's going to a trip so he like comes over very slowly and gingerly with his tray and they're like oh my god charlie's like are you dead ass like are you drunk are you drunk bro like literally it's like wait kate us here what literally how you carrying that tree dead ass dead ass

he's like i'm just in ski boots guys they're oh my god your flies not done ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha So where are Gia and Amira? And everyone's like, uh, wait a minute. Didn't Gia say to wait for her at the top of the mountain? He's like, yeah. But that was an hour ago. Yeah.

So you guys were supposed to wait? And Charlie's like, well, it would be another kind of stupid. It would be another kind of special to like still be sitting up there. And then it cuts to them still sitting up there. It's, I think so. It's Gia. This is Teresa's daughter. I can't, I can't explain why Amira is just being a nice friend.

but like Gia would be the one where it's like, well, I can't feel my limbs anymore and they're turning, they're turning black from frostbite, but I made a promise, so I'm going to sit on top of this mountain until they come. Yeah. If ever there's a reason to roll down a hill, it's that Gia is at the top of it. So I was surprised that Amira was just sitting there. But she was just sitting there. And she's like, oh my God, my weave. She's like, both of our wings. both of them. Okay. So now we go back to the group and they see Gia coming down finally. And they're like, whoa, where's Gia's pulls? Gia's so good. She doesn't even use her poles, you guys.

Yeah. She just is like a little cannonball and that slopes. Just go right down. You know, low center of gravity. It's easy. So then they all come in and they're all worried that they're going to be mad at them. but they are actually so self-involved in whatever social media that they're doing at that moment that they just don't even have they don't even even remember that everyone abandoned them

amira skiing down doing her makeup at the same time for a tic-tok i love this show it's so ridiculous i love amira i have to say again i think amira is having such a breakout season like she is so good and this is such a beautiful episode not beautiful but like it was like a It was a very three-dimensional episode for her, which I really appreciated. But I also think that this is her star making season for sure. Also, it's kind of funny to think of her just sitting with Gia at the top of the mountain. I feel like Amir and Gia, like, have we seen a lot of one-on-one time with those two? They seem like they're from different worlds.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Roll down the hill. What are you doing sitting up there? Get out. Get out. So they're like, hey, are you still in one piece of mirror? She's like, titty's still intact, face still lethal, I made it. So Ariana is like, okay, does anybody want an espresso martini?

Like, oh no, no, no, no. So I said, you serve espresso. It's like, yeah, espresso with an S. She's like, I'm so sick of pronouncing things in front of you, people. This was a very important scene to me. I was like, finally, after years and years of enduring this, especially on below deck, someone on. Bravo takes a stance and they spelled it on screen this was a lesson this was a lesson to not just the

youth of america i would actually say all of america it's espresso not expresso thank you shy for your service it was it was something that's needed to be set on bravo for a really long time and you know that the below deck people probably are not watching this but they need it the most yeah yeah exactly They're the worst about it. Expresso. What, espresso? Yeah. Anyway, I was very happy.

So Ariana goes to get to some espresso and she's at the bar with Liam and they have as much chemistry as always, which is none. She's just staring straight ahead and he's like, oh, feeling okay? What's that there? You know, I feel like I'm at a ski lodge because I am at a ski lodge, but I'm like really living the moment and that's really living the moment. the moment and that's really important for an actor to do. How are you feeling? She's like, yeah, I'm having so much fun here. And she says, it's definitely a bit weird right now between me and Liam, like between

dinner last night and him telling me this morning at 5 a.m. that he'd love me. He's like, yeah, I mean, look, I think I was just like a little too honest with her. It's one of the problems when you're an actor is that you have to be emotionally honest all the time, so sometimes you wind up just being honest all the time. It's tough. But as Uda Hagan once said, tell her you love her. It's not a direct quote, but I'm pretty sure it is. Thank you, actor. As Uda Hagan once told me, kiss the girl. Kiss the girl. It's a great film. As James Lipton once told me, tell the story about the time you told the girl you loved her over,

Expressive Martinis. So we see them at his family summer house at Lake George. How many houses does this guy have? They've got this ski one. They've got a Lake George one. They've got their Manhattan apartment. This one, I thought this was his family house. No, this is a member of an Airbnb.

They said he sent everyone the listing and it was a whole thing. but I thought it was his parents' Airbnb. I thought like the family was Oh, I don't know about that. I don't know about that, but what I will say is I don't either. I'm confused. Yeah, I, I, I wish someone would be emotionally honest about what this listing was.

But I think that here's, okay, here's something that I'm going to flag was that last week, Liam and Ariana went to Lake George. I'm sorry, two weekends, two weekends in a row in upstate New York. That's too much. I have not, all this time, I have not thought that he was love bombing.

But I think the Adirondacks and Cat Skills doubleheader, we're now heading there. We're heading to Love Bomb territory. It's too much. Oh, he's, he's, he's been love bombing from the very beginning. He's like, you want to come meet my family? Can I build you a closet? It's too much. I don't know. I do think that like, in all honesty, I'm not going to go on this tangent. I'm going to do it. In all honesty, I do think that there's a difference between love bombing versus like having no game and thinking that you're supposed to do grand gestures like as part of wooing a girl.

And I really do think that he lands more on the side of like this is what they do in the movies. So I'm going to do it too. But like to me a love bomber is someone who like sells you on a promise of the future and all that. And but that being said, two upstate New York weekends in a row for this poor girl. And it's nothing about upset New York. It's just like, that's a lot of driving. It's a lot of upset New York. And so I'm going to say it's moving towards love bombing for me.

Yeah, I just, he's giving us some red flags, you know. He's giving up a lot of them. Like, the problem isn't, in his mind, it's not that I said I love you. It's that I was too honest with her. It's kind of a, it's too much that you're already, that you already love somebody. That's what's too much. It's not even that you said it. Yeah.

It's that you really feel that way. It's too much. And I get it's young love and all of that. So part of it's just the old bitch and me trying to explain to the young bitch in me. Like, don't do it. Don't do it, Ronnie. But you know what? So that's part of it, but I'm like the-

Afterwards. Last week, it was also the fact that he was like, I told her I was going to sleep, but then she didn't want to come to bed with me either. So she just stayed down there. And so he had, like, they had to have a talk. And that gets to be more like, ugh. And then he uses the I love you card when he's upset. Like, you've upset me and I love you. How could you treat me like this?

It's also red flaggy. Very, very red flaggy, this guy. It's like, I feel like it's like the most like G-rated version of narcissism we've seen on Bravo. But like there's definitely like some elements there for sure. Well, he's also just getting started. So, yeah. Usually it takes a while for someone on Bravo to. to ripen.

So many red flags. This is what is... Yeah, it's like the end of his first season. So he goes, yeah. Well, look, I invited Arietta to Lake George because I like her. And it's a big part of who I am. So I wanted to see that side of me, that huge thousands of square foot side of me. And, you know, when we were like George, she really looked at me and she said, I manifested

you and then you came to life. Like you're everything I ever wanted. You're my dream. And you're sitting here right in front of you. and I don't know what to do about it. What do I do? I manifested you. So that's weird too. She was talking about morning coffee. Okay. You got her a cold brew and she was like, oh, thank God, I manifested this. Relax. You know, he also sort of just comes off as someone who's insecure. Like, to be totally honest, he, they said last week he's five, he's like a five, seven

actor. Like, he's, I think that he's maybe, he's concerned that he's like not like inherently the cool guy so he's got to sort of like front load the Liam experience with like whoa i got a huge house whoa i do this whoa i build a cabinet like you won't mind that i'm short right so and i'm not saying that's where his only insecurity or that he's even insecure about that i don't mind i can imagine i love a short king we all love a short king but like i'm just saying i see him as someone who's like insecure and trying to fill voids of where he think his pun really not intended short king but like i'm just saying i see him as someone who's like insecure and trying to fill voids of where he think his pun, really not intended shortcomings with like,

but I can offer this instead, I can do this instead, don't worry, so, you know. Well, now that you bring up that, it does, it is kind of Tom Cruisey jumping on the couch, you know. Yeah, which is not like, I love her, I love Gady, I love her, I love her, coming up and down on the couch, and Oprah being like, calm down, babe, you know. You know, that's like Tom Cruise without the career. So he's like, yeah, and I'm sitting there looking into your eyes. I can see our fucking future. Like, what are we doing?

Because if you're someone's dream, like, you expect them to chase it. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. I expect you to chase. And I'm worried. Don't chase. To quote a credit card slogan, chase what matters. I'm not sure that you qualify on that.

So Ariana says, The situation makes my hands clammy. Because love is a big word. It's a big word that makes me very, because it be clammy heads. I'm not going to lie. My hands, like, I put them on the wall. You're going to see a print.

And I was very thrown up by it. I obviously did not tell him that I loved him back. Like, I've only said, I love you to one person, and I truly meant it. And it was Hudson. It was, it was, it was the man who looked like, a troll doll who got his hair wet and then dried afterwards. Aw.

For Hudson. Is this he just can't? No, no, we're not saying poor Hudson to this guy. Whatever. Never. Oh, yeah. Well, I don't think Hudson looks like a troll doll. No, his hair.

His hair. His hair, his hair, that hairstyle draws me nuts. His little, like, his little bob, his little, like, it looked like his hair. Whatever. Walk off with your car. corduroy pants, bro. I don't care. Walk off with your corduroy pants. They showed that clip of Hudson's saying that to Charlie. I was cracking up. Yeah. No, I would never make fun of Hudson's looks. But I would make fun of his hairstyle. I think that's very good. Yeah. Well, especially a season one. A season one hair was like an untreated Jody Foster Bob. Oh, poor Jody. Well, I'm feeling too many things today. I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know who I am to. You're really feeling things. I'm like, I am.

I don't know why. I'm in a sensitive place today. It's not like me. Do you have to find who's someone I can? Bobcat Goldweed? I mean, what can I do to make you get into this hairstyle shading? Well, that'll do it. Bobcat, for sure.

Yikes. So now Ava and Shai are flirting awkwardly. And she's like, I mean, at this point, With Shai, like, nobody's really addressing what happened in Vegas, and so we're just, like, silly and flirty. Like, I don't know. It's, like, confusing. So this episode, we find out that there is really flirtation from her end. I was surprised. Were you?

Hmm? No, I wasn't surprised. I think Eva enjoys attention, and Shai is giving her attention, and, you know, she's vulnerable, you know, because her forever love hook. He's no longer in the picture. Hook line and sinker, unfortunately. So I think like this was an inevitable path forward. So yeah, she's into it. Why not?

Well, I mean, I think shy's cute and I think he's rich as fuck too. And he's nice and he has a brand and stuff. So it's not like I don't think he's worthy. I just didn't get any vibes. I thought her vibe was like, ew. Like shy is nice, but he's flirting with me. Ew. But it wasn't that.

Since you're the king of, predicting evil downsides. Do you think Shai is going to have a West Wilson moment? No, I mean, I don't see that coming, but it took me a good year to see anything with West either. So I don't know.

Do you? Yeah, I don't think it's, I don't think so because he has, like, at this point in West's first season, even though this is Shai's second season, but it's really kind of his first, I think West had ingratiated himself pretty intensely with Sierra.

Like, he'd already started to, like, Weasel in a way that shy's not really not being totally successful with I mean there's the stuff with Ava but generally the group is weirdly frosty to him and people are suspicious of him and Ava flirting with him almost seems like reluctantly and out of boredom and because she has no other options at the moment and it's probably the holidays and she maybe feels a little lonely or something so like his his his social game is shockingly very off so So I think even if he does, I don't think he's like ingratiated enough to create a scandal if that makes sense.

Yeah, I mean, I think if anything with him, I see his getting offended at every little thing becoming a bigger deal when you're in a relationship with somebody. Like, that was rude. Why would you say that? How could you? What would you say that? You know, being overly sensitive until it makes you crazy. Well, for right now, until the other shoe drops, I really enjoy shy. Yeah, anyone, anyone can cheat.

Yeah. So Liam is talking about Charlie to us. He's like, yeah, I mean, Charlie doesn't respect me, so whatever. I'm not going to give Charlie the time of day, you know? Well, I mean, last night I was the only one calling him out. I mean, I really wish other people would have maybe called him out. Get better Coke, Liam. You want people to stand up for you. Yeah. Well, as Henry Gibson would say, it's a doll's house. So he better see himself out. Here comes one right now. So, but Liam says, I'm not, I'm not going to lie to you. I wish some other people would have said some shit. I wish Amira would have said a little bit more, because Charlie's not going to listen to me.

So the non-skiing group goes back to the house, and Brooks announces that they're actually planning to put together a surprise, that prey ski party. to celebrate Ava and Kendall's birthday. So, like, Ava and Kendall, they've got, like, go out of my venue. Yeah. And Riley tells Ava to go take a bath.

She's like, yeah, I will. I'm going to use bath bombs. Riley's like, wow, I don't know if I should be proud or scared of my deception skills. I think it's hilarious that they know Eva will take so long that they can actually build an entire party. So they're decked. for this party and Rowan's like,

you never know how long the word happy birthday is to tear you plug up mega balloons that spell happy birthday. This sucks. Why do I have to do that? So then they're, by the way, Ava fully is suspicious that there's gonna be a surprise party, so she brought like a surprise party look just in case, which I think is funny.

And then Brooks is like, he's actually doing some manual labor, he's actually shoveling snow onto champagne buckets, and they're all so impressed. Like, oh my God, Brooks is actually shoveling something. They're like, wow, he's doing something slightly active. Charlie takes Liam aside to talk. And Charlie's like, yeah, so, I mean, look, I was, you know, I was thinking about what happened last night. Like, I mean, like, I guess you were upset.

So, like, to that end, I do want to be respectful of you. Like, Ariana's blossoming. I mean, whatever. So despite me, like, indicating that, like, I didn't care if you were. together with her, like I would just like to now, furthermore today indicate that, like, I apologize, like, I have respect for your request or whatever. And Charles, and, uh, whoa, the cool guy's talking to me. And Charles, like, you know, I do have respect now.

He's like, whoa, I mean, I appreciate that. And to be honest, man, I did not expect you to say that, you know, because as an actor, you got to be in the, in the present. And you can't just be anticipating what the next line is. You know what I'm saying, bro? That's what we actors do. You know, Mershkin gets it. Lime.

And Charlie's like, yeah, well, I mean, on the skill of, like, J, was explaining to me that you guys were, like, exclusive, but, like, no one told me you were exclusive. I mean, I was not you were exclusive. It's like, flashback last night, everybody told Charlie, telling Charlie that they're exclusive. Ding! Yeah, I mean, I didn't know.

I mean, I was like, what? I had no idea. I was still alone who told me. He's like, no, appreciate that. be honest man I did not expect you to say that you know again living in the moment so the producer asked Charlie like what made you change your mind is like charlie says up I mean on the ski lift did you explain to me that they had in fact like become exclusive yeah I would have like to have known I'm just gonna repeat that information for you guys a little bit so Charlie says um yeah probably

would have been helpful to like figure out whether you guys have a label you guys have like a label or something you know so that way people like me know whether or not to like go for your girl you know and it's like yeah I mean there's some confusion with it but I think that like one thing that like we agree on is like we do like each other a lot we like espresso martini's a lot we love going to lake george and we like spending time with each other on the car on the taconic freeway anything anything to get to upset in new york know what i'm saying so i'm just like being honest with you like it's just like freaking freaking us out a little bit yeah charlie's like yeah well my conscience is clear you know because like i i mean if i get with ariano like i it's because like she you know

she's not in a relationship i'm charlie like i have morals I don't know where Charlie's coming up with all of this, but it's fun because you know that he's working on something. I mean, I think that Charlie is low-key, a top-tier bravo villain because he does that, he does that thing that the best villains do, which is they will do something hugely villainous, but then they do something, like, wildly sort of self-aware and human afterwards that sort of like, I'll get, like, I'll get angry at him, and then I'll thaw. He thaws me, and then I get angry again. And like that is like what Ramona does. That's what back in the day in like Vanderpump Rules era before he became before, not before he became, before we were truly aware of his monstrosity was what Jacks was like back in the day

where we'd be like, oh, fucking Jacks. But then we'd sort of, then he would do something nice. Like, oh, but Jacks, he's an oaf. Like the best villains on Bravo do have that pattern. And I think Charlie is. A great apologizer. Yeah, he's like in that. He's in that vein.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It's a Tamara judge. Tamara is a great example. I didn't even know that I'm saying you. I'm so sorry. If it hurt your feelings, I was saying you're an alcoholic, you can't keep a man. You know?

Yeah, very great apologizer. So he's pretty good. And then we go to Gia, Ariana, and shy. And, of course, Gia, she doesn't have a lot going on. I mean, she tries. You know, she has her boyfriend, Christian. on the show. And she's like, how come you don't want to film with me?

He's like, we're filming right now. I don't want to talk about this for a hundredth time. So she does try, but it doesn't really work. So she's, you know, doing the other business thing, other people's business thing, which is, I guess, her role on the show. So she's like, yeah, so Charlie was like, are they dating? And I'm like, well, they're not dating, but they're exclusive. So.

And Gia's like, Charlie, Charlie is infatuated with Ariana. And like, I also think this is a game for him. Because like, Charlie's like, let me swarm and get her. Like, it's fuck boy 101. So Charlie, we're back to Charlie and Liam. And Charlie's like, uh, but like you're okay with like Ariana and I being friends. Obviously, right? And Liam's like, yeah, bro.

I'm cool. I'm cool with you guys being friends. But I would kind of like it, you know, kind of appreciate. though, maybe some of those late night things, kind of like, die down a little bit, you know, bro, that'd be cool. Yeah, can you not do that? Yeah. Yeah, it's so hanging about late at night.

He's like, oh, yeah, I mean, like, if you guys are doing your thing, like, she has no business smoking in my house at 2 a.m., I get you. So, like, why is she coming to my house to smoke up at 2 a.m.? Exactly, exactly, Liam. Totally on the same page. Yeah, I don't get it either. Yeah, let's go skiing, bro. Let's go doing it.

And this fucking guy, yeah. Yeah. Should we read it? They're broed up now. Meanwhile, he is like, well, but you also have to understand

she just got out of a relationship with odds. Oh my, for Christ's sake. Make your shit talking faster. Charlie's already back for the slopes. They walk right in. Yeah,

seriously. I mean, what's so funny about Charlie is that, like, he has such sway over the group. They're all really sort of, as much as they can't stand him,

they are also, like, all their actions really revolve around him, how he's going to react, what he's going to prove of, like, et cetera, et cetera. And I think it's just funny because when we moderated that panel, Charlie was at the end of the

sofas, just sitting there with sunglasses on, like, slouched his legs all the way out, like, I'm too cool for this. And it's just so funny that this guy has this sway over this entire cast. And I don't know, like, I don't know if you felt the same way, but I kind of felt like we were parents. And I was like, oh, God.

Our teenager over there just learned about God. music you know it's like yeah but then when we saw the show once we saw the episode it was like the end it was the very end of bravocom we were the there they were i mean that panel was the final thing of all of bravocom wasn't it was yeah it was the final final final panel of the whole thing so yeah i think he he was just he was just fucking over exhausted probably and hung over yeah so geos say i'm I'm sure he's really a good guy, guys. Did you see the ski slip scene?

Poor guy, poor Charlie. Poor Charlie, what you're going to do? So Ariana's like, well, if I'm kissing people, I don't want to kiss multiple people. And she is like, yeah, because those are whores. And we're not whores. Kissing multiple people does not make you a whore. I don't know. What?

What are you talking about? Crazy. The specter of Teresa. arrives so yeah yeah meanwhile Charlie's like sitting right over there and so Ariana's like the drama queen of the fuck the fucking the fucking South is listening over there and she's like no I mean there's no I mean there's no I mean there's no one else for me it I'm sitting here like oh god like god like listen listen douchebag we need you over there get out of here we got to

talk shit about you he's like what why am I a douchebag and they're just like laughing and so Gia says that she basically she really likes Liam and she says for Liam, this is so serious. He adores Ariana, and that's where I get scared for my best friend, because she wears her heart on her sleeve, and I just don't want her to get hurt, because heart's so sharp. There's like a pointy end, and if it's on her sleeve

and she wipes her face, she'll scratch her face, and she'll get hurt. Like, Ariana, you need to be single for a little while long. You need to be single. You've been with the same person since you were 16. So now the rest of the group, heads back into the house and, you know, Liam is, Liam announces that he's good with Charlie now.

And then we see that Charlie is texting a video of shy skiing with his ass out. He's sending it to Amira. And then Amira's texting with her boyfriend saying everything's fine with Charlie, but it's really hard to overlook everything that's happened with him. And then we'll see the flashback of Georgia being like, Well, Charlie said that Kevin is a gay man. It's not disgust enough. Mm-hmm.

And so then Amira's saying, like, you know, this is like really problematic, you know, and it's hypocritical of me because, you know, now that, you know, she's saying it's hypocritical of me because before, I probably would always say, like, problematic things, but now once it affects me, now I'm upset. She goes, but now I'm really seeing it with a fresh pair of eyes. And I know that he did say all those horrible things. And we've been friends for seven years. And you've spoken about me that way?

Like, that's so sad. And Charlie, I don't think he has any idea of how upset I am. And now it's time for Ava and Kendall surprise. Everyone gets kadoos. Cazooze. Sorry, kazooze. And they get kadoos. Cadoos to you.

Whoa. And Kendall comes down first. And I also point out that, like, they also. So they hand out, like Brooks hands everyone like a kazoo party like noise maker, whatever, to everyone in anticipation of the surprise. The surprise. And then shy just takes his and just blows on it. And he's like, and then they're like, what shy? Stop that.

He's like, I'm sorry. I mean, you put it by hand. I mean, I'm going to blow it. Like what? Like what? Like, I don't even know what to do. Like I was just trying to be funny. I'm not a cloud, but trying to be fun.

Like what? I don't know. What is this thing? What's a cuzoo? What's a birthday party anyway? What? Huh? Shy.

You put it in my hand. I'm gonna blow it. I mean, if nothing else has ever described my friend, friend group. But yeah, of course, shy is the one to blow it. Of course he is. And also, by the way, how funny was it that Kendall was the one who came down first instead of Ava? Because the other thing is they'd never even bothered to come up with a plan to make sure both girls come at the same time. So they, Kendall arrives first. And the reason why I think it's funny to me is that, like, clearly this party is more for Ava. So I just assumed Ava would be out first, like, oh my God, thank you guys. And then Kendall would like drift into the party and be like, oh yeah, you too.

Kendall, happy birthday. So the fact that she was the one who took like the star making moment of surprise was very shocking to me because it's Kendall. Yeah, I mean, you can't even get upset about the kazzoos being blown too early because they were all blowing them for Kendall. So Ava heard all of that. And they were like, well, she said, did I miss it? And they're like, well, do you want to go down? She's like, no, I'll get my own entrance. Just give it a minute.

Thanks. So she comes out And she's so surprised And there's a DJ there She's like, oh my God, how did we get a DJ? Brooks is like, I have my ways. And then it just cuts to the DJ It says production assistant.

Yeah. So Kendall and Liam Go upstairs have a chat. And so she goes, Hi, I just want to check on you Because like this morning, you didn't really want to chat. He's like, yeah, me.

you were I did her. Like, that was fucking weird, right? Like, I mean, I was hurt last night, like, by Ariana, but Charlie came up to me today on the mountain, and we had a talk, like a real intense talk, you know? It was like Pacino and De Niro and heat. You know what I'm saying, man? No.

Yeah, well, anyway, it's an actor thing, and it was pretty deep, so things are cool with him now. She was like, where does Charlie even stand? Like, his frontal lobe fully developed within 24 hours, something's fishy. Okay, but like you and Ariana, like you don't have a title, but you've been serious,

and you're not official, but you're engaged. So like, look, I really love Ariana, like really seriously, but you're my best friend. And I don't think you should be treated that way by anyone.

I mean, Charlie in the car saying, I feel like Ariana does want to fuck me. He kept saying that. He said it over and over. He's like, yeah, but I get it. They like their friends.

They have a weird family. You know what I mean? It's like... Yeah, I don't know. It's not just a friend banter, I don't think. It's not just a friend banter, I don't think. Kendall's like, he needs to learn boundaries, like me with personality. And like, still, in my head, I'm like, why is she letting him feel that way?

Well, no, Kendall. Now, this is where I'm going to disagree with Kendall. I don't think you can blame Ariana. for Charlie being an asshole. In fact, Charlie's a sort of person that the more you tell him no, the more he's going to do it. So I think the attention should be put on Charlie that he should learn some boundaries and he should have some respect for some people. It should be. I guess if this conversation came a little later, I would get it because Ariana's like, oh my God, this is like moving so fast.

We're spending Christmas together. What? Like, what? That is kind of mixed messagey. Everyone should, everyone, these guys just as, as, I would say, holistically, these men all need to work on their boundaries and their maturity. But then again, this is the show, is it not? Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one, of a two-part recap.

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