Watch What Crappens - #3526 RHOC S20E09 Part Two: As a Trash Thinketh

Episode Date: September 4, 2026

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Hello and welcome to watch our crapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you miss part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. So, Vicki and Tamara come now, and they're singing, happy, baby. I'm just overwhelmed. I mean, I would have done other things if I knew you were coming.

I would have forgotten. Troy, stop pumping that woman's leg. Hey, you know what, girls, thank you for coming. I just want to establish myself more for my birthday. That's my birthday wish. And Vicki's helping me with my finances, and I put a lot of money into real for real. And thank you all again for choosing not to support it. I think that's a great testament to your independence that you don't just do things for friends because they ask you to.

I thank you. So I shut it down last year, and I lost a lot of money. Oh, wow, so much money. Actually, I was, turns out I was $75,000 just short of keeping it in business. So that's too bad. I only had that $75,000 left. Wow. By the way, if I mentioned that I hate flying commercial, it's hilarious.

I think I was telling you guys from my private. Anyway, money, money. Let's stop talking about money. What's your selfish wish, Shannon? Just be selfish for one. Well, I would like to be a month again. Maybe take my kids on a trip. Oh, okay.

Well, maybe more affordably selfish. Just try that. Fordably. And yeah, Shannon says that her selfish wishes to take her kids on a trip. And Becky goes, well, of course, but not first class, right? We're only doing coach. Only coach. We already talked about that.

Heather was clearly zoned out. Just sort of heard, she heard like certain buzzwords. And like immediately she thought like, oh, we're planning the cast trip. And so she hears trip. and we're flying coach. She goes, what? Where are we going, Coach? What?

She just, she goes from being like, look at me, I'm television to Heather Debrough, enjoying a pizza with a friend in a small house. And to suddenly, like, her eyes just turned black. We are not flying coach anywhere. Not you, Heather. Geez. Yeah, not you, sweetie.

Okay, it's all right. God, she's really sweating. Look at Heather. It's about the motion we've seen that of Heather in years. And Heather's like, Okay, listen, there were years we flew coach, but now we've moved to the front. It would be very difficult to go back. I don't even like flying commercial.

They're like putting like a trauma blanket around her, like patting down her forehead. It's okay, haven't. We're not flying coach. You can be okay. I just was, it was so scary there for a moment. I was terrible. So Tamara's like, well, Shannon's been talking about moving to New York. you're going to do that, Shannon?

We had the Trace Amigas. We can't do that if you're in New York. I thought you guys broke up. What the hell? That show's still going on. Geez. No, we're the Dresenegas, but we're working on being friends again. All three of us, right?

Oh, really? How's that going? Tamara's like, yeah, I thought we were. And Emily says, well, Shannon's going to have lunch with Tamara, everybody. And we see a flashback to Carmel's house where basically Tamara's like, hey, let's get lunch. And Tamara's like, yeah, I'm having so much fun with you. I think that, like, we should, like, don't have cactus. Just have fun, bitch.

Yeah, she's telling us, I don't know. I just don't care why Shannon just can't get over me. You know, Shannon just can't forgive me. For whatever reason, I don't even know what it is. It's so crazy. And then they show her like, you drunk, stupid single sligh you after, nobody likes you. What, I drive into a house or something? Did I drive into a half that year?

No, Shannon and I had a great time in Vegas. No, she didn't crash into any single building. and I just feel like we're progressing and said like, we don't have to talk about the past, bitch. We can just talk and have fun like our times about me saying we don't have to talk about the past. I would bring up the past later on this episode. Thank you, bitch.

I don't know. I'll have to think about that one. Whoa, wow, wow. Now it's time to blow out candles. I love candles. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Where are they going out?

What is? Are these strict candles? It's disgusting. Meanwhile, Heather's in the corner doing the thing with her finger. I'll never tell. What happened to Heather? She's still going through it without couch scare.

Now it's family time at Jen's house, and Ryan's walking around with the cane. She's like, oh, wow. Maybe I need to ask Vicky if I can borrow her scooter for Ryan. He had knee surgery. Parallel. Parallels. because he used to play soccer.

And Grayson and Dawson are... Holy moly, when they showed that picture of Ryan playing soccer when he was younger. First of all, he looked 10 years older in the picture where he was young. Then he does somehow. And God, bless it, that man was fine. I still think Ryan is fine.

I hate to say it. I think Ryan's really hot. He is. He's still hot. But the picture of him when he was younger looking old, I mean, he was hot. He's been a hot guy. Yeah.

All the, you know, between, between Heather Amin and Jen, they, they definitely had some, they've had some fun with this guy and he's had a lot of fun with a lot of people. So what I'm trying to say is he's hot, so he's had a lot of partners, I'm sure. And God bless it. So Dawson is back from the Marines, so for a little bit. and then this is actually just like a nice scene with the sun. Yeah, gotta be honest. Like, low-key, to be honest.

Like, it's crazy, like, low-key being in the Marines low-key. Because, like, if you're, like, having, like, a low-key bad day, one of the guys that, like, low-key tell you, like, gotta be honest, bro, it's a black day. Gotta be honest, low-key. Yeah. Learned all those words in the military. Thanks for having me back, Mom.

So basically it's a scene where Jen is trying to ask Grayson why he's about like opening up and he says he just doesn't really like opening up to his mom because it's awkward for him and then like he doesn't have that connection with the dad like Dawson has like conversations with the dad but Grayson doesn't and Grayson is like yeah this is why I miss having a therapist because like that was the easiest person to talk to and I'm like can someone get this kid a therapist? What happened to his therapist? Can you guys pull him? me up some, instead of going to Vegas, give him a freaking therapist. It's like, I mean, it's like not even a cry for help is literally like a formal request. He's like, I would like some mental health resources, please. And Jen's like, oh, wow. Okay, let me go inside and check in on some risk crackers. Okay, see you later. Yeah, I mean, look, Grayson has an emotional connection.

Well, he's got a connection. Is your connection with Rod Stewart? And is Rod Stewart telling you how to come your hair? Like what? He's forever young. He's forever young. He's forever young. He's forever young.

So they have a very emotional scene talking about kids and, well, it's just so great. Some of my boys both home. And then the guys, the kids talk amongst themselves. And basically, like, the older broad, Dawson's kind of just. more of it? No, basically, Dawson's just like, listen, bro, don't keep your emotions bottle up inside. It's good to talk. I love talking about

how I feel. It's like very important for me. It's like low-key important. High-key. It's like Loki. He says that. He says, it's low-key important to talk about your emotions. He says Loki 30 times. Yeah, he loki-love saying it. So then we go to the

Surf and Sand Hotel for the scene that everyone was excited for. it's Tamara and Eddie's romantic Night of Seduction featuring a flashback to their other Night of Seduction many years ago. Drown me in the surf and kick sound in my eyes. Restaurant. No one asked for this.

No one needs this scene, okay? How many times are you guys going to do this scene before you're going to understand that nobody wants this? So this is like a... We need to get our step back to you. Okay, Eddie. We're not even fucking much, not even one time a week. I mean, we need to get in.

I went hotel and I'm dressed sexy and lingerie. Look, I'm wearing it. I'm just wearing lingerie and just jacket. He's like, we're in a restaurant, babe. Put on your jacket. She's like, yeah. So sexy. We can look up to the room.

Me and Eddie, we can have sex. It's crazy. You guys want to watch this. I'm going to cry on the ground and bark like a dog. The worst is when she arrived. She says, hello, I have a room. It was named under the name. J.C.

And the woman had to go, okay, Miss Juicy, we'll go ahead and check on that. I'm sure it's not the first time the surf and sand of Laguna Beach has had requests like this. But yeah, they have this awkward kind of date moment. And Tamara reveals that there's Rawls up with Eddie, which is, I think probably makes him happy because I think that's what he voted for. And she says, there's a wipe and it's starting to scare me because we got into a fight about six months ago we're in big bear and the entire trip we're just arguing about stupid things not hot things like me but then we were driving home and he just looked at me and he goes i think it's time to file for divorce

and that scared me scared me in a hot way and scared my heart and now you're muted right now Okay, we're back. So where were we? My microphone revolted against this Tamara scene. Where we were was just Tamara saying, telling the story about how basically Eddie asked for a divorce on the way back from Big Bear after big fight. But they still somehow back together. And then, so that's why she's having a sexy scene because she feels like if they can get their love life back together, then everything will be fixed. Yeah, I mean, okay.

At least they're not going to try and have a baby or something Because that's normally how I would suggest fixing it You know, and my friends are like, I just don't know if this is going to work I say, have a baby, just have a baby. Well, I think the real way to fix it is just to renew your wedding house. I think that's pretty much Yeah, that always works on Bravo. Do you remember the time?

Well, Tamara's already done those things. She didn't have a baby, but she got that fake baby, remember when she's like, I'm going to have a real looking baby. And there's my fine. I've got a baby now. Galerian. So, yeah, she and Eddie do a lot of, you know, sex stuff. I will say she looks amazing.

Whatever she does to keep looking so great is admirable. I will never do any of those things. Whatever she does, we all saw it. We all witnessed it. It was like when she, like, turned herself for three days into, like, that, like, stupid cartoon frog. Her face was green and burnt off, but then she emerged, beautiful. And it works. It's like whatever she's getting works.

And she even got a belly button put back on because remember there was like one of the things online a few years ago was when she got her whatever. She had so much done. You know, she's on Bravo. But she was missing a belly button. And people are like, where's your belly button? She's like, hey, I'm making fun of my belly button. And she got one, I think, put in because I saw one today. And only on Real Housewives, do you notice things like that?

I was like, wow, Tamara got a belly button. This is so cool. But congratulations. The long and the short of it is that they retire up to their bedroom. After Tamara opens up her coat and she is just like a lingerie in the mouth. It's like 5 p.m. happy hour. And so they go up to the room and they like in a brightly lit room that resembled like a Hyatt house. And they're playing like sexy jenga and first he has to like trace her body with his like over at the clothes.

I don't know. He's like just touching her body and putting his finger into the lingerie. And then he has to spank her. It's just, it was, like you could feel the stagnant air in the room. It was just so deeply unsexy. And I was like, please, please take us away from here. Thank you. Yeah, take me away. Look, I'm going to tell these two the same thing. I tell literally everybody I mean, I don't need to see you fuck your husband. That's all. It's a simple request. But I'm glad you guys are happy. Okay, do it off camera. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. So Shannon is driving in the car with Tamara on the phone.

And she's like, well, hello, Tamara. This is me, Shannon Bador. I just wanted you to know I completely, completely appreciate your invitation to get together tomorrow. But it's Vicki's birthday. And, you know, it's weird to not invite her on her birthday. And I just would feel weird. I would love it if we could invite. Vicky.

Okay? Can all three of us come? I mean, that's a totally different bad. It's like, you know, I understand that. I am just a little bit uncomfortable. I'm just not comfortable with having a one-on-one and potentially going deep with you. And I just feel like the trajectory we're on,

we need to have Vicky. I think everyone knows that Vicky is always a safe person to add to any conversation. So are you up for it? Can't say I keep trying to try and then the thing is a little good space for a decade. She knows what fun we've had to get in. That's important to me, but whatever.

I guess I'm still evil. No, but it's never going to talk to me again. Whatever. But good for Shannon because this is what... Shannon knows by now that what... She knows what Tamara does. Uh-huh. Shannon, be friends again.

Okay, you stupid drunk, bitch. Talk about being drunk again. She does it season after season. I don't know what Shannon really thinks she's going to accomplish, because eventually you're going to have to become friends with her. anyway, but... Yeah. But... I mean, it is also Vicky's birthday.

I think it is the right thing to invite Vicky. But I think maybe, like... Well, I mean, Shannon obviously just does not want to have lunch with Tamara 101, and she shouldn't have agreed with it in the first place. That's the thing. If you agreed to it, then you should follow through with it. And, like, maybe you could have said... Did she that?

Because, I mean, she kind of technically agreed to it, but that was under duress, because Tamara was just like, yeah, we're going to have lunch. Have they mean, Shannon? Just going to hang out. I see you and me, Sam, we're going to go to a lunch tomorrow. I'm going to go to lunch. It's kind of, it's duress. It's lunch under duress.

Well, also, like, Tamara, if she's serious about venting this friendship, she should respect what Shannon wants. And just, like, just take it slow. If she's not ready, then be happy just to have the three of them, you know? So she should also just, like, just cool her jets a little bit. So they agree that they're going to have a Trace Amiga's launch instead. So now we are at Javier's home of Alfredo. So, hello, everyone.

Television's Heather Debrough has arrived with Emily and Jen. Last night, we were at the IHeart Awards with Annabelle. And I mean, she is just so beautiful. She looks like she's 18. Now, could someone please tell me who is Annabelle anyway? Anyone? When we see pictures of Annabelle looking at that, like a little adult.

And then we go to another restaurant. This one is called Tree House. The Treats Amiga's House. Which is there's only going to be two of us because Tamara can't come. So she tells Vicky that Tamara's probably pissed because she called her and told her. She just, she's not ready to do one-on-ones and stuff. And Vicki's like, well, I don't think you need to do one-on-what. What is behind me?

What is that? Oh, it's my gift. I love gifts. I love guests. I love guests. Bring them on. Bring them on. Bring me gifts.

Is it a ring? Is it a ring? Could you hang it from that tree? So it's kind of dangling over my head. That's how I like it. Tree has. So we see Tamara get out of her car and she goes, she's sash-aying and like,

here comes a hot batch, batch. And we're like, okay, Trace Amiga's lunch is on. But guess what? It's a silence of the lambs fake out because she is not at the address. We expect. She's at Javier's. She has ditched the Trace Amigas.

Yeah. She's like, you better put some lotion on it, bitch. Um, and Vicky and Shannon are cheersing. And, uh, Vicky's like, well, cheers to me because it's my birthday. Then we go back to Javier's and Heather, Heather's like, well, we were talking about last night, Tamara. I was like, yeah, it's fun. But then me and Shannon were supposed to deal one-on-one. Now I got a first-time call of marriage, you won't forgive me.

So guess what? I didn't even show up to the lunch for Vicki's birthdays. What do you think about that? Don't worry. I sent the flowers. I'm a good parent. I sent some flowers. She pulled a Porsche.

Yeah. Yeah. She did. And also, also Elisa Vanderpump to Adrian Maloof by sending the world's worst floral arrangement

to celebrate the Maloof Hoof. So I'll always remember that weird, Mounded thing. So Heather's like, wait a minute. Did you tell them you were not coming?

No. So they thought you were coming to lunch? Is that right now during this lunch at Javier's? And she's like, yeah. So then we go over to the treehouse and the flowers arrive. And Shannon already knows. She's like, uh-oh. Because he's like, oh, this is nice flowers.

And she was like, uh-uh. Oh, this isn't good. This isn't good. Okay, let me read to that. I, that, yeah, that, I never had which I could be there but I don't want

Shannon to be uncomfortable. Oh my God, for Christ's sake, could you just have the waiter come read it? It's this passive-aggressive-ass note that's like, I wish I could be there. I don't want to make Shannon uncomfortable. I thought we were moving forward, but not everyone's there yet.

So I'll just keep choosing growth by sending a passive aggressive bouquet in my place. Well, what does Shannon think is going to happen? Sometimes you just have to say, okay, we're friends again. Yay, we're friends again. And just fake it until filming's done. You don't want Tamara is your enemy. Come on.

Haven't you had enough of that for the past two years? Like, just placate. Play Kate. And Tamara said that she ended the note by saying, Hope you whip it up today's sound. Tamara Grudge. Oh, wait. Tamara Grudge?

Oh, that's funny because it sounds like Tamara Judge, but Grudge, I think that's when you don't like somebody and you hold, that is, is that, did you do that on purpose? That is so clever, Tamara. That is so,

thank you so much, Tamara. That is so funny. If that was a typo, that was a brilliant typo. Heather's like, Because Jen's like, you know, it was good until the Tamara Grudge part. And then Hethos, by the way, it wasn't good until that. I love Jen thinking, saying it was good.

It was bad out of the gate. It was so cut fitnessy right from the, right from the jump. And the fact that Jen's like, oh, you were doing so well until you said Tamara Grudge. Because that wasn't your last name. By the way you were. Why did you not use your real last name? Yeah. So Shannon's like, well, oh, that is on your birthday.

They are. That is just so rude. So Vicki's like, well, you know what? She should be talking about Michael and I. I'll tell you that. She doesn't even know you and Michael, and that's the crazy part. She's been talking about your relationship. What, what Gina told me that Tamara said, was that he gave me a ring, but he took back the ring. What?

What? What? What? What? What? That's absolutely crazy. And two days earlier, Gina is talking to Vicki. and she goes, Tamara, can't this whole story, has this whole theory that he, like, did propose to you.

No, he never did. Yeah, but then, like, you guys got into, like, a B'N fight, and then you guys broke up, and then he, like, took the ring back, and made me feel bad. Those are all lies. Those were all lies.

Listen, would a man who doesn't love me blowing my steak until it's cool enough for me to eat? There, taste dismissed. So, Shaz, like, well, you guys, you guys aren't. even having any issues? Like, why would she even, why would she even make something up? Well, we will, we'll have issues now. We'll have it now because he does not want to be on TV. Bik is not putting up with this. He is not, this is a different guy that Dom. Brooks is Steve.

This guy will say, see you later, and your stupid friendships. I'm out. I'm out. I'm leaving. So great. Thank you for making my boyfriend break up with me. Thanks. Thanks a lot. Vicki, if you can't, Tamara's an asshole, okay? She shouldn't be saying all the, all of them saying all of this stuff is, not cool. That said, you're a TV person. You've been trying to get back on TV for years, and you were on TV for decades. So what is this guy

complaining? What was? Yeah. So, um, Vicki's basically like, no, he never proposed to me. And no, he never took the ring back or even gave it to me. Mike doesn't like drama. So I'm not going to be the one that shares my relationship with anybody anymore. I did in the past

and it didn't turn out well. I'm over it. Okay. I'm not happy right now. I'm not going tomorrow. I'm not. She's like, oh, come on. You're going to go. You're going to come tomorrow. I mean, who doesn't want to go sit in the field with a psychic that Jen found? Surely she's going to have really good extensions. We have, we have that to look forward to. Okay, I'll come. Commercials. Here comes one right now. So then we go back to Jen and she's like, well, I hope tomorrow's fun because, you know,

someone's going to come to a reading for us. And, you know, an energetic reading, not a regular reading, We just saw how that went with Vicky. I'm sure that wasn't good. But if you're open to it, I'm going to wear a sundress. So you guys can wear sun dresses too. It's going to be so fine. Sundresses are dresses. You can wear them at night, but they're better to wear in the sun.

I hope you don't. You know, this is like Jen's personal calendar. It's like Saturday. Wear a sundress. She's like looking forward to it all day. We're wearing a sundress on Saturday. So, Heather's like, oh, how fun. You know, I was with Carmella.

and I went to her office in Corona del Mar, which is not where they make the beer. So I had sent her an apartment that Max looked at, and so she showed it to me, and we took a little virtual tour. It was adorable. I am, I suppose, a woman of the people now. We even got Zah. Well, you become really close with Kammer. Well, I mean, I don't feel like you're becoming. I'm in close with Carmela.

No, I do like her. I do like Carmela. You don't like Carmela? I do. I do like her. Let's be honest, Heather. I've had conversations with Gina, and Gina shared that you said

not great things about Carmela. So, just admit to it. Gina said, and it goes, well, tell me what it is. Well, I'll tell you what they told me. I heard that you think she's trashy, and she doesn't belong in this friend group, and that you actually wish she wasn't.

wasn't even in the friend group, which I'll be honest, Heather. Now I'm like, what the hell? Yeah, when Emily told me that Heather was calling Carmela trash, I'm like, does that mean she's calling me trash? I mean, yes. Yes. Her whole season, your whole first season with them calling you trash. You've been here before.

You've been here. So Heather's like, oh, okay, well, did I prejudge her? Yes. and I feel bad about that. And she's been incredibly nice. Okay, she's been very nice, and we're forming a very nice friendship. So I feel really bad about that. Hey, you're not allowed to say Gina's line.

You're such a bitch. Why do you always steal people's lines? You know what? When Carmela first came around, there was information that there was a restraining order, and she kicked some girl in a bar or something. and I thought as an adult doing stuff like that is trashy. But that was just a mejerk reaction. It was a major retraction.

I don't know. You know what I'm trying to say. It's trash. She's trash. Look, I called her trash only because she had many trashy elements to her past. But now that I've gotten to know her, she is trash. But like Oscar the Grouch, we can grow to love trash, and that is okay. She's more the cardboard container trash and less of the random refuse trash.

They're different cats. She's like compost. Yes, does she have spiritual worms crawling through her? Perhaps. But is she good for the soil? Also, yes, what I'm trying to say is she's trash, but special trash. The kind of trash that just turns into dirt. Yeah, but it's the extremes.

That's like you're very opinionated, but then you ask her to be involved in real estate transactions. You know what I mean? But she lives down there. She knows the area. Listen, if you're going to ask a wadded up Kleenex to show you to a used paper towel, that's how you're going to find the used paper.

Rettel, you need to ask trash, where, trash. You guys are, you guys are talking about this too much. I just want to stop talking about it. I just think it's very irritating for the rest of us who know what you've said, and you're looking at me like I'm all out of line. What I'm saying is absolutely accurate, though. So Heather goes, well, what do you want me to say? Which I love that she says stuff like that.

Like, what do you want me to do, you fucking bitch? This is off camera. She's like, I just said, I agree. I prejudge the girl. I feel bad about it. Hashty Gina, and I've gotten to know her, and I like her. What do you want me to do, you non-televised moron? Well, I'm glad to share I'm had a chance with Carmella.

It's so funny. Well, now that we're not, now we're not going to be on good terms, because now I have to go tell Carmela, I called her trash. So thank you, everybody. Of course, I'm going to tell her. I'm not going to let you guys have a big scene about this. So, great. Okay, so now we go to.

the park for Jen's garden party and this intuitive comes Lisa the intuitive reader yeah and Jen's known Lisa for a long time and like she trusts her a lot and so Lisa's like okay so today we're going to do a one word prompt

which is going to help them create some clarity in their life and connection because that's the power of saying one word okay and especially if their word is connection then they'll really feel the connection you see what am saying are you following jenn jen are you with me are you with me jen so people are arriving here's my word can you can you think of what i'm saying said thank you so much you said told me so the first batch of people or emily and vicky are there and emily's like oh did you see mike on your birthday was he mean to you i mean emily's like fishing for a gossip here vicky knows it she's like yeah we went to dinner oh where'd you

guys go. We went to Fleming's. Really? Were you allowed to order what you wanted? Tell me everything. Carmela arrives. That fails, Vicky out. With gift bags. Oh, Carmela. She's not going to learn the lesson. She's always got to give the gifts.

Yeah. Yes. So, Vicki's like, that better be presents for Shannon and I. Oh, look at us. Just being girlfriends. You buy expensive gifts. I'm going to be very nice to you today. Very nice. She's like, yeah, you know that I got gifts. So Shannon comes last and she's wearing a polka dot dress and she's just stopping and posing in this like pretty woman polka dot dress. Big hat.

Yeah. Big floppy hat. Big floppy hat. She looks crazy. And Tamara's like, she's got straps. She's got polka dots. She's got salads. And it's awkward habit.

And I goes, why? Because I didn't show up yesterday. And I was, oh, right. I forgot. I was so busy preoccupied by the fact that you've ambushed me. about this freaking Carmela thing that I forgot that you actually started your own bullshit yourself yesterday.

Okay, everybody. So Lisa's going to take us through a spiritual exercise. Lisa, thank you so much. Do you want to explain? She's like, yeah, let me explain. I also have notebooks too. Okay, you all get a notebook, okay? Right and they're like, oh, great.

And he goes, what is this? Homework! So she's like, okay, I'm Lisa. You guys can call me whatever you want. You can call me a psychic. You can call me a medium. You can call me an energy. You can call me, I mean,

I mean, I don't know. Dog psychic. I do it all. I do it. I'm a bitch. I'm a lover. I'm a sister. I'm a mother.

I'm a sinner. I'm a saint. I will not. I don't know. It rhymes. It did rhyme. Yeah. I need more of a specific kind of psychic.

I don't want someone who's like, I'm a medium, I'm a psychic, I'm an advisor, I'm a this, I'm a that. I mean, more of a specific. know what, like specialize. I don't want to... I don't need the global cuisine of psychics. Yeah.

Yeah. So she's going to give a prompt. They're going to close their eyes and connect with themselves. And they're going to write down what the universe is telling them. So in Gina's head, she's, her eyes are closed. And inside her head, we hear her saying, today I'm choosing peace. Which is a lie. She never does.

And then Jen's saying, go be fearless. You can do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. This part was cracking me up. You just hear all of their inner thoughts. And Shannon's like, oh, does my hair look like shit after wearing a hat?

I shouldn't have worn a hat today. Why did I wear a hat? Vicki's like, you're boring. You're bored. I'm bored. I'm bored. It's bullshit. That's my word.

Heather's was the best. We just cuss to Heather, like, deep breathing. And she goes, I can't tell if I'm hot or cold. And then Emily is like, vacation, Greece, a multifacose yacht, which is supposed to be funny, but I didn't laugh. So Lisa's like, okay, you guys sit with it. I got nothing. She's like, okay, well, how about do you have a feeling? I have two, but I can't decide between them, hot or cold.

So they're talking about whether or not they believe in psychics. And Vicki, of course, Vicki and Tam are both like, no, this is bullshit. This is stupid. And they don't even try to pretend with the lady. I love when they come out of them. It's like, what are you thinking? It's stupid. That's what I'm thinking.

Stupid sake. Get alive. Your tracks are terrible. I can see your tracks. That's what I'm thinking. All right. Well, what about you? So, Jen, why don't you tell us what your word is?

And so Jen's like, okay, sure. So the universe told me that the word is fearless. Did I get that right? Is somebody I got that right? What happens if I got it wrong? I'm a little scared about this. And then Lisa is. She's like, okay, why do you think the universe gave you that word?

I don't know. I don't know. I'm afraid of asking. Okay, well, you learn nothing. Well, I wrote, stop worrying. It's literally consuming me. Waring is wasted energy. There.

I just sawed up my family. So I wrote down family. And then I thought I could use another sign that says family, because sometimes my family comes into the family. family room and they're like, is this the kitchen? And I'm like, does it say kitchen? Oh, my God. Dita, I'm sorry to tell you that the word you actually wrote down is welcome.

Oh, my God. Thank God. I need another one. I wrote down guilt. Because as a mom, I operate the land of always feeling guilty because my kids are fucking torturers. Okay. Well, I've got some really good news for you. Your kids are actually doing better because they don't need you to be there with them all

the time. like oh really that's not what my phone says it's going off all the goddamn time fucking luke okay well it's it's you know they're just becoming more independent okay does uh tamara does anything come to you um my word is slow down okay well that's two words but uh we'll we'll accept it uh who's slowing dad i don't want to slow that that's ridiculous i don't want to slow down Heather, your turn. I wrote Confident, and I wrote it because it's really important for me to be confident about friendships. You know, when things come up, you can deal with them and move on.

I mean, listen, I want people to be confident enough that if somebody else offhandedly says that they're trashed, they can get over it. Isn't it great to be confident? let's just say that word 50 times. Okay. And then I'm going to have a conversation with Carmela. So, yeah, so basically then Gina's like, I'm like really very irritated that Heather is using Carmela as a realtor. And honestly, that she just hasn't even said anything to me about it.

But Fancy Pants has bigger fish to fry today. You know what? At least she has a fish to fry, okay? You are just like getting tin. cans and putting them on a grill on the season. So please. So Carmela's word is fear, which I think somebody took. Well, Jen, Jen was fearless. So Carmela just short a bit, called it a day. And then Jen is like, okay, well, does anybody have any questions for Lisa? And she was like, I would like a snack. That would be good.

Shannon, did you happen to bring any of that pizza in your purse? Like, I'm really hungry. Do you mean Zah? So then, so Heather pulls Carmela to have a talk. And so Heather's like, thank you, Carmela, for talking to me in the middle of this birdwatching field. First of all, because there's all these birdwatchers that are walking around them. They're like drifting through the scene. And you know they don't watch Real Housewives, they have no idea what's going on.

So it's like, Hermel is like, wow, this bird watching is nuts. Isn't it? We call it poor watching. It's fascinating. Keep your mask on. I went to the groundlings last night to prepare for this, and they said,

the speech you gave Shannon and the speech you give Taylor Armstrong, do the opposite of that. So here goes. Anyway, thanks for coming to talk to me. First of all, I really like you. I think you're a fantastic girl. I really like our friendship. Are you suspicious yet?

Good. Because I fucked up a few weeks ago. Other me, take it from here. I owe you an apology. I was so judgy. I didn't feel like you belonged in our group. And I said some shitty things. And I used the word trashy.

This was a great talk. Come along like those, geez, Heather. Well, she kind of laughs. She kind of has to laugh because what the fuck, Heather just lays it all out there. And I use the word trash. She's like, well, when I heard, you know, I heard about a restraining order. And I mean, she goes, well, in fairness, I was a kid when that happened. I was 20.

You don't owe me an explanation. I owe you an explanation. I can't even tell you. I'm so truly sorry that you used to be trashy. As someone who lives next to Drake, let me be the first one to tell you, you can always call me on my hotline, bling. Okay? I accept calls for anyone. Trash, you're not.

She's like, well, I mean, I always feel like I've been judged, but I've been judged for a lifetime. So, I mean, it sucks to hear that you're trash, but I mean, I guess it was nice of her to have a talk with me about it. She's like, good, good, great, great. Great monologue you just gave the camera. This was fun. Okay, so it is not Wednesday, which means that you are not being picked up today, and I've already spent my allotted time with you.

I have a question. If you were to perhaps eat too much, would they have to call for bulk pickup? I'm just curious. I just want to know what it's like to be trash. So Carmela ends up by saying she's not mad. And so everybody else is, of course, watching this and trying to see if they're fighting or Carmela's happy. And Tamara's like, God knows what she said.

Heather, did she take the trash out? I get better credit now that she wanted to address it, you know, because Carmela doesn't deserve those things being said about her. And Emma's like, well, I'll tell you what's going to change. She's not going to tell us anything anymore. She'll just tell Terry and it'll end there. The buck stops at Terry. Like, yeah. Because you weaponize a totally untrustworthy friend and you're not somebody that anybody can speak around Emily.

So, yeah. And also, I would doubt that she does do that because she's still talking to your ass after all of these years. Well, I guess she didn't tell Emily that. She told Gina. Still. So they all sit down for lunch. And Tamara, by the way, if you think this situation with Heather and Carmel is dead, it's not because you know that Gina and Heather. Gina and Emily would be like, I just think it's like being that she can.

called you trash. And like if you really think about it, like, it's like just not cool that she just gets away with it, like, the simple like, oops, I'm sorry. You know they're going to really, like, because they're good, they're not going to be happy that Carmela is like chill with that, with that, with Heather's apology. Yeah. So now we move on to Vicky. So, they're like, wow, that's so great. Happy birthday, Vicki. Happy birthday. What'd you do for your birthday with your boyfriend? She's like, oh, we were in Huntington. We went to this hotel. I was looking forward to having you there, Tamara. And she's like, well, I don't know, you know, but I was going to come, but then soon it says she was going to feel uncomfortable by me.

And I just want to make sure that Shannon was going to be okay. Well, oh, well, it's important for me to be honest, Tamara. And I, I'm just not there. And Emily's like, well, were you uncomfortable when you helped set up for a party? She says, well, I, I, I, yes, I was uncomfortable. and I said even going in, I am very uncomfortable. So yes, I said, I'm consistent. I said, just focus on the balloons and just put the balloons up.

And if she asked you any questions, just blow on the noisemakers. And that's what I did for 10 minutes, just blowing on the noise makers. Is that why you did that? I was so confused. What do you think I'm going to do you, Shannon? Why is just scared? I spent 10 years since your best friend. Yeah, but then, remember, you ended that because you were telling everyone that Shannon is pathetic.

and miserable and wouldn't stop calling you wasted in the middle of the night and crying about her divorce and you were sick of hearing of it. So whoops. I don't know. I don't know Tamara. So Tamara is like You were talking behind my back.

And because now Tamara's saying that Shannon started the divide, which is funny because it was I believe it was because when Shannon got her DUI, Tamara was hounding her for it and ridiculing her. Yeah. So Tamara Well, even before that. It all started because Tamara, well, who knows where it all started? The origin is like crazy.

But yeah, it goes back years and years. But the most recent huge fight between Shannon and Tamara, I remember starting because Tamara got her podcast and became friends with Teddy and then quit doing the Trace Amigos because, I don't know, it's embarrassing, probably. And they were mad that she was focusing on this new friend project instead of being in their Trace Amigos project. And then it asked, had it. going to flower.

So then, Shannon's like, well, if you want to, if you want to go back in the past, I could list a hundred things that you've done. It's like, no, no, we're going to go forward. Okay, going back is not going to fix it. Shannon's like, but she keeps bringing it up. And then suddenly, like, Shannon just starts to cough.

She's like, yeah. And she starts being. Yeah, but you didn't want to go to lunch with me. And I had no, you know, I had no intention of talking about the past. Oh, well, that's, yeah. And now they're trying to keep this fight going, but Shannon can't stop sneezing and coughing. She's, like, covering her face and, like, getting up and waving her arms. Yeah, but how could you treat me like that?

Yeah. So I got up. Hold on, Tamara. I'll play. I'll please. And they're like, they like, and they just start cracking up. And she's sneezing and coughing and everything. She's like, well, what am I supposed to do?

What a... They're like... Of course, now I'm coughing because I haven't getting ever cold. So Emily's like, is it the feathers? Is it the feathers? And she was like, no. I must be allergic to the toxins in this croissant. Why did you have to put it into a box?

You know, box are the most unsafe thing in the world. Cardboard. We're not supposed to be around cardboard as humans. There is gluten in the air. There is gluten in the air. So Emily's like, okay, God, please tell me she's not sneezing all over the dessert over there. It's disgusting. So Emily tells Tamara, like you say you're ready to move forward, but, you know, you bring up a lot of shit, Tamara.

It's like, you're holding, she's like, I'm not holding the grids, but I'm not. I mean, it's a seventh card because it rhymes with my name. Oh, my God. You know what I just realized? Grudge rhymes with Judge, which is your last name. That is so funny, Tamara. That is so good. That is like a very funny joke that you've done.

That's so funny. Achoo! Achoo! Shannon, do you think the reason why you can't get forward is because the last thing that happened was that you and Tamara were at the quiet woman and that you were not invited? Is that what it was? It's in the back of my head. Yes, that is. It's in the back of my head.

Oh, Jesus. Oh, God, I'm going to see. And so Carmel is like, maybe she just needs time. I'm acknowledging how kind Tamara has been to me, but I need a baby steps. I baby steps, Tamara. Okay, baby. So Jen's like, okay, well then Tamara's going to take a step back, okay? That's what you'll do.

The ball's in your court. It's like, oh, well, I'm here for you. If you want my friendship, you just let me know when. And until then, I'll be sending past the aggressive bouquets. Well, I appreciate. to you. I do not want to hurt you. Please. So they agree to just let it go.

They don't have like a huge fight about it. Oh, now we move on to Vicky. I said we moved on to Vicky before, but it was Shannon's turn. So now it's true. Yeah. So Gina's like, it's so weird, Victoria, that you're not talking to Tamara about what I told you about mine. Like, it's crazy.

Like, I really made an effort to start some shit. You guys aren't even going to fiend about it. Yeah. Like, that's crazy. Did you want to fight now? Wait, what happened? Well, I told camera that Mike proposed and then, like, took the, took back the ring.

Because it didn't happen. You're so bad at this. You can't even start shit properly anymore, so now you have to bring up that you started shit. I know. You're mad that they won't talk. I mean, it's just so bad. Come on, man.

Mickey's like, look, if I get engaged with Mike, it's going to be a joint decision, and we're just going to get eloped. Okay, we don't want to do a whole big thing. And Jen's like, what? And then she goes, Yeah, I'm not going to do what you guys are doing, Jen. Okay, we're going to get married right away.

She's like, what? What the hell that I do? What is that? What am I doing this? Why am I in this? Now, I'm not going to do some sort of stupid wedding or like stupid like prolonged thing, like on a beach with like some bikini slut thing. Like, you know, like this one would.

What, huh? Me? What? Huh? Yeah, so why are you yelling at me? Because I heard your voice. I heard your voice. It's like, well, geez.

And Heather goes, well, what's so wrong without Jen's doing it? And Jen's like, wow. So your man sits on a ring for a year and doesn't give it to you and that's better. It's like, no to your business. Shut the fuck off, Jen. I did like Jen saying, well, I have a telling us, I have a ring. Actually, like, it's actually like really beautiful and I love wearing it. And I don't have to be a good girl to get it.

And I don't know, maybe I can get an insurance policy from you, Vicky, for the rock that I actually have. Ew. So Tamara's like, so you got to be good for 90 days. Well, he said 90 days. He was laughing about it. It was a joke, Tamara. Come on. It was just a joke.

Well, I always feel like when someone jokes, there's a little bit of truth underneath it. Well, then you better re-examine what the king of the spark has is married. We're not ready to talk about Mike. We're not talking about Mike anymore because Mike says, we're going to be talking about on the TV. We're not going to do it. You're not going to break up my relationship. Okay. Just because you want to talk about something on TV.

It's not going to happen. So that's it. Everything is great with Mike. Thank you. So, Vicki is like, yeah, we're not really. to be married. I said, why would he do this? And I thought, well, I don't know.

Maybe he gave him the ring and they got into a fight. I don't know. Something like that. No, she said she never saw the ring. She doesn't even know. It could be an urban legend. Like Wendy Malick's career. So, Vicky is like...

She took a bath and was missing a kidney after. Urban legend. And so Vicky's like, no, I don't want to talk about this. Okay, he didn't hold anything over my head. I'd never seen it. Like, but that's the bad's out of bitch. It's like, no, like, no, I don't care about the ring. Okay?

He's going to lose his shit. If this comes on TV, he's going to lose this shit. But why? What's the big deal? He'll be a celebrity like Terry. Every time I talk, Heather, you interrupt me. She's like, I haven't even said anything. This is the first time I'm interjecting into the conversation.

Vicky. Do not talk to me. like that. You're screaming at her for no reason, stupid finky. I was cracking. I look at this. And so, well, because Heather just says it in that way. This is the first time

I'm interjecting into the conversation. So Heather's like, you, oh, I love, I do love when Heather starts off when she starts a sentence saying you in that way, like the you is going down a slide on a playground, you just told me,

I'm interested. you. So let me finish this sentence. I was going to say something nice. I was going to say that we all like him. It was lovely spending time with him. But now I will not say something nice. I don't care. I don't care, Heather. I don't care. Heather, like, leans her whole body back in a straight line, but her head stays right here. She's like, I know. I love what she does that. Excuse me. He's just very rude, very, very, rude. Well, I don't even say anything bad, Vicki. Which is worried for you because you were the monster of man who's probably mistreating and treating it and treating it terribly and your relationships horrible. That's not what I'm saying.

It's like marriage, it's a big deal. You know, at my age, I'm not doing it unless I have zero red flags. Which is why I've talked about wanting to get a ring for this man since the first episode of the season. Like, Vicki, you remember everything that you've said up until now, right? But nice trying to cover. She's like, what? We're not even thinking about marriage. I would never even get married, ever, ever again.

She has like a, like, she's like, I mean, like this guy has nothing but red flags, but she has now put a new, she has a new timeline for herself, which is that she just wants, she, she thinks she only has like 15 years left. And she's like, I want to find someone for this final chapter. And so she feels like she's running out of time to find a guy to spend the rest of her life with. And so she's ignoring red flags. Normally you see this conversation happening with people who just want to find a partner or so that they can have a baby. But it's interesting to see it happening here.

Like at a time of her life where she should be the most discerting and have the most wisdom and like the most experience and to really be able to like to cut through everything. And now it's like obvious red flags. And she's like, no, that doesn't matter. I just need someone to grow old with. Lock it down. Yeah. And so she's saying, listen, he's not asking me to marry him.

not ready to ask me to marry him. And Heather's like, well, I understand. But, you know, telling you is kind of sending a little message like, there's a ring. It's hanging out over there. And Gina's like, yeah, he's saying be a good girl. No, no, there's more of what you're saying, and I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole anymore. I do not buy it. This makes no sense to me.

I don't feel like men like shopping or buying jewelry, so why would you go spend the time and effort to do that? And bring it up and put it in a safe. and Tamara's like I just want to know Did Vicky have to buy it? So Vicki's like Look, we're at a place

Where we don't need this whole engagement party Okay, we don't need all that Okay? Him and I will just elope and that's it That's our agreement So Tamara's like Oh, we had an engagement party for you She's like, yeah, but Steve

And it worked out so well, didn't it? So they all crack up And just agree to drop it Because Vicky's not having this You know, Vicki's like I will say come on So then now is time for Carmela to give her birthday presents. And of course, she's giving them really expensive persons.

Yes. And, well, back. I guess Vicki gets a wallet. But you know it's expensive because Shannon's like, oh, well, Carmela. Thank you so much. Oh, this is almost as exciting as that pizza. And then I got yes. This is wonderful.

Thank you, so much. Oh, my. God. Yeah, well, also, Shannon's actually nice to Carmela because Shannon is having Carmela as her, like, she's recruited Carmela to be on her side. So everything Carmela does, you can see that Shannon also finds Carmela trashy, but instead she's like, oh, that you are, you are so sweet. Oh, what a lovely person. And you are not driving down property values in Rancho Santa Fe. You are.

We're a great addition to my child at home. You were great. I love all the year. Oh, poor Carmela. Jeez. She's also got another gift at the bottom of the bag for Vicki, and it's not a dildo, guys. It is a scarf. And so she puts it on her head, and she's like, well, I'm not really a scarf person, and I'm not really a wallet person either.

So I'm going to return this stuff to get something that I actually want. But it was nice. Jeez. Thank you. Thank you, sweetheart. This is so kind. Thank you. And Shannon is like,

and by the way, I just want to say thank you guys all for coming over and bringing over a food that I have tried to avoid for the past 15 years. I really love all of you

so much. All of you. That includes you, Tamara. You, I do love you. Yeah. The gift of dietary sabotage. It was really heart blockage warming.

So thank you very much to everybody here. I love you all. And that's the end. And that's where it ends. Fun times. Yeah, it was a pretty fun one. Fun way to end the week.

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