Watch What Crappens - #3542 Next Gen NYC S2E013 Part One: Brooksie Torture House

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

This is part 1 of a 2-part recap!Next Gen NYC gets its first ever reunion, and Brooks is ready to rumble. Well, if not, we’ll get to hear him say Crypto Torture House a few times. Shai and Charlie are getting the most flack, but Shai is the only one to let it get under his collar. No never mind, it was just fashion. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens.Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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want that on video you can get that over on our patreon that's also where you get at free listening it's where you get bonus episodes it's good time okay go over there so today next gen n yc episode 13 reunion part one ever i know what did you think of the reunes i thought it was really good also loved the set and i don't know why they never have just like one big series of like like cushioned benches you know this was so this was great like they normally have all these sofas and couches and chairs like what they did it perfectly they just had like a nice it was like the edge it's like if you go into like a bar you know it's just like one long row of tufted cushions to sit on so i thought it looks great um i liked it what did you yeah i love that that's my um yeah

it was good it was i did love the couch as well i thought so too but i was like damn that is one gigantic couch. They've got 90 people on this show. I realize how many people there were on that show until I saw the couch. You know, you probably just don't think about things until you see the furniture involved. Yeah.

Yeah, that's how you really know. Yeah. Brooks really came in here. I think Charlie clocked Brooks pretty well when he said, oh, you know, Brooks gets a lot of shit's a season for not doing anything. So now it comes and guns blazing, which is true. Brooks came in a turquoise jacket and was like, I'm going to get them today.

No one's going to mess with me when I've got this dark of a spray tan on. And he tried to go for it, but it fizzled out pretty quickly. Nobody gave it to him. They're like, okay. It's like when your toddler is screaming in the back and you're just like, okay. And then you just get out of the car and you take a bus and just leave your baby in the car. yeah i think meredith clearly gave him a pep talk and like you are being too passive this season you gotta get in the mix so um he came in ready ready to fight um i mean he'll be fine i think he'll don't leave your babies in the car no that was nice it's bad of thanks but he came in um i mean i don't think brooks is really in any danger of being dropped from the show because he's meredith's son and he's you know he's know, but he definitely, he really, he went from being the center of the show to being at the edge of a very, very, very long, beautiful couch.

That's not good. Well, was he the center? I mean, last season, he was like the center. He was like the one. It was like, I know this person and I know that person and we do this thing together. And he was sort of like our narrator or like our focal point, I felt like. and it was about him just, you know, having, just like dealing with New York City and I don't know. I felt like he was a bit more central.

It feels like a haze last year. But this year, he was really barely in the show, to be honest, or just felt like he was barely in the show. Well, look, I don't need him to really do much. I mean, some of the most brilliant people don't say a whole lot of stuff that I know about. I mean, I love Stephen Sondheim musicals. I don't think I've ever read an interview with Stephen Sondheim. It's not like he's on TikTok every day, but he creates something beautiful. And Brooks is the same way.

Like, I don't need to hear much from him, but every day he spends making people happy by creating my favorite thing. Bread. So. Oh, I thought you're saying Terry Light. I do have a Terry Light shirt. It's not from Brooks. I guess it's not called Terry Light. It's not called Terry Light.

It's called whatever, whatever Marshalls does. But it's very light. and it didn't fall apart in the washing machine. I will say that. Maybe I would rather wear Brooks's bread. I'll wear Brooks as sourdough. Make me a sourdough shirt. I was done that.

There, boom. Trade market. Love that. I'm in. Yeah, no, I think Brooks receded this season. And actually, to a certain extent, I think Riley did too. I think they both wound up a little bit more periphery. Riley had a bigger role than Brooks did.

And then I think that Amira and Ava, and obviously shy, had like big, you know, uh, not come ups or whatever, but like they, they took the place. You know, we saw a lot more mirror. We saw a lot more Eva. And obviously, shy was barely in last season. So I think we saw change the power dynamic and, um, they were, they were really compelling. What can I say? Um, but anyway, let's get into it, shall we? Uh, it's, we're in Manhattan because, of course, because it's next gen New York City. And they all start to arrive with a typical, hi, hi, hi, hi. Everyone's getting dressed. Are you.

Not a very typical New York next gen NY thing where they're like, wow, these guys are so famous. Look, the whole internet's talking about them. And it'll cut to somebody being like, oh, my God. I wonder if Ariana and Riley have spoken yet. Cut to another clip. Oh, my God. What's Riley doing right now? I can't even go to sleep.

What is a cast of NextGen NYC dealing? They're just so famous. Mark my words now, everyone. I will be saying salacious things to the camera with, like, wide open eyes solely so that way I can get projected onto a building next season about this cast. Like, just watch. You will see me in the middle of a, we'll be talking about below deck, and I'll be like, I heard that Ava Dash is going through it. What's next for this young starlet? And I'm like, I'm going to just going to put those in every recap. One of them's got a hit. I want to be back on a building, okay? Because I feel like we obviously had our moment, but I don't know. Now I'm, I've tasted the drug. I'm chasing the dragon. I'm riding the wave. I want to be on multiple buildings. Put me on 30 rock. Project me on to one of those pencil towers. Okay. I would like to be a projected face. Insert me into a mirror the way they did Lara on sup. Put me onto a refrigerator.

Stick me onto one of Brooks's Loves. Okay. I want to be a talking head again on Next Gen New York City. I want to Brooks's Loves. Hey, stop taking my spot. That's the only thing I care about on this show is that damn brain. I'm to, I'm cutthroat. I'm taking over anyway.

Practicing some salacious things. Okay, go on. Okay, do it now. Say some salacious things. Do some tests for the building. Here's one. I'll start. Okay.

Guys, Jesus manipulated so. much of this cast. It's time that we talk about Jesus manipulation. Here's what I'm going to, I got to lower this mics. That way I'm not obscured for the skyscraper. Okay. It doesn't go any lower. Oh God, my, I'm ruined. Okay. I'm going to sit up tall. Sit up tall. Okay. This is, this is for the skyscraper, guys. I was really shipping Liam and Ariana, but now that they are sort of broken up, I don't know what's next for them. I just hope that, like, Liam is able to find someone because if he's not, I'm not sure he's going to be okay.

Thank you. Thank you. I think that was pretty good. Maybe we need to shorten them a little bit because they're really short. Yeah, that was long. Wait, let me do it again. Sorry, that was like, I'm just long to. Let me do some, yeah, do one that's shorter.

Guys, is it me or is like Liam suddenly hot? That's, that's going to be on. That's good. They're putting that on Columbus Circle. Okay, how about, um, um, okay. Okay. Word on the street. is that Georgia has a new product,

and this one's actually pretty good. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Whoa, guys, I'm about to go Mariska Hargott gay for Liam. I don't know if you guys have seen it, but Charlie Zocor is apparently now into parkour. I'm gonna walk my way from that one. That doesn't make sense.

Wait, I ruined it. Well, I know parkour too. I'm going to jump his bones. I don't know if you guys have seen Shai's new outfits, but I think he's totally started a trend with a collar outside of his blazer. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

All right, so everybody starts to come, and they're getting interviewed in their dressing rooms, and we go to Ariana's, and she's got a pink Bible on the table. So she's pretty pretty. pretty serious. She's into like Barbie Bibleism. Well, yeah, the Bible is doing great work for that family. Ligley Bible. Biblically blonde. So Gia's like, how are you feeling my love?

She's like, terrible. I'm angry at myself for allowing someone, somebody to manipulate me in such a way. I'm like, Ariana, don't be so mean to your mom. Okay. So anyway, she continues. No kidding. She's like, hold on. I've just got to vent on my mom about $30. dollars. She goes, she says, and it sucks. I mean, obviously, the Liam of it all and like hurting Liam like that.

Oh, Ariana, don't even act like you really care about hurting Liam. You don't care. I care. Yeah. Now you're upset. Charlie didn't manipulate you into hurting Liam. Give me a break. No one manipulated you.

You saw the show. You've seen the first seasons of this show. Get the fuck out of here with that. Yeah. I think Ariana's nice and everything, but I'm not falling for this crap. It's just like, oh, I was so manipulated. Now I have a pink Bible. You're never going to do this to me again.

No, no. And then, Gia's like, what's going on with Hudson? You think he's going to show up today? She's like, yeah, he will. So America takes a collective breath of relief. Hudson will be there. We go to Brooks' dressing room and Liam's on the couch in there. And Brooks, like, my art, like, really went out to you watching those last couple

of episodes. Yeah, man. Loves a bitch. What can I say? It's the name also my new short. It's a sequel to Carrera. It's called Loves a bitch, comma, Carrera. A Carrera story. Or like my mom likes to say, stop being a little bitch.

Sorry. I don't know where I'm going with that. It hurts. It hurts. It hurts. You know, Mom says a lot of times you're either a cat or you're a dog, but sometimes you can just be a cat dog. Okay, get over a kid.

And I'm like, what? Georgia comes and I'm just like, oh, my God, what are we in our doctor's office? Like, what is this? My God, that just gave me an idea for a doctor office product. A doctor's office is like fun. We can make it like white. Oh, my God, we could call it yuck, but it's about taking blood samples. So shy.

I'm going to be a doctor called doctor doctor. Shire rolls up and and he's like, well, am I, am I, like, not supposed to come dressed? Like, was I supposed to, like, not be dressed and dressed in there? Like, I don't even understand. Like, where am I even at?

Is this, like, the doctor's office also? Like, what's that even happening? Why are there cameras here? Ava's getting glam. She's like, I'm an open book. I'll talk about, like, whatever. But do we have to talk about the Bahamas? Like, that was off camera for a reason.

So you're a closed book. actually you're not an open book also like let's be honest you know I think Ivis had a tremendous second season but like let's not act like this is a this is like George R or Martin over here okay we're like we're looking at a pamphlet so then um and then we go to Amira and she's looking at um we see a social media post wondering why did Amira forgive Charlie so easily and Arianna's like Georgia doesn't always think before she speaks and like think about the way this is going to affect you she's like yeah i feel like i really misappropriated the blame onto her instead of charlie which

sure that's the is that the right use of misappropriated i really shouldn't have used her culture like that the unwashed hands culture i didn't really appreciate her culture until the audience told me that I was supposed to be more upset about it. So now I see that I should have really given Charlie way more shit in the moment, instead of just like being so naive. So I'm going to give him more shit. The audience has spoken. That's how a lot of them come in here, which makes me crazy about this show,

but it's also part of why this show is what it is. They're all, like, so super famous in their own minds. And they literally change their minds based on the audience opinion and admit it right up front. They're just like, well, the audience didn't like this. So I guess I'll switch this up today. And it's kind of a normal thing at a reunion. But they're just, they're not chill about it at all, you know. But what's also like kind of funny about it is that like, she's like, you know what?

I'm going to give Charlie's shit because actually people don't like Charlie. So I'm going to give Charlie shit. But then I feel like a lot of people came out of this reunion saying like, Charlie's such a villain, but he is hilarious. So it's like the needle is always moving or the target. Yeah. We go to Shai and, Shy's like, hey, Charlie, how do you feel about the last scene? I was like, crazy.

He's like, I mean, which one? The one where Ariana's like, I'm coming for Charlie? I mean, whatever. Come at me. Go ahead. I'll swing back like twice as hard. Yes, that's exactly what Charlie is. He's so good at swinging back.

It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crowd. Happens commercial. So then Andy's on stage. Like, alright, let's get in here. Oh, good. There's the clean axe.

Okay. I'm like, what is there to cry about on this stage right now? It's like, no kidding. Are we crying for masturbating? Like, what's happening? I know. It's like, oh, hey, Brooke Shield's daughter,

tell us how your rewrites are going on your script. Like, well, I just, my dad didn't like the first draft. It's just been like, a hard time. I'm like, no one's done anything sad this season. I may eat my words. It's probably something that was sad that happened

that I'm just like not paying attention to. But Andy Andy's talking to Charlie and he's like, hey, Charlie, you don't seem to sweat much. He's like, like not over this stuff, no. Whatever.

Of course, we're waiting on Georgia, who they accused of being the biggest diva changed by fame. And she's looking at herself in the mirror and she's like, oh my God, looking camp right in the eye. Camp, camp. Camp, camp.

And then they're like all waiting for her, but then she's coming out, but then she's like, wait a second, like, my tushy is out. Like actually, wait, like, that's like my butt. My butt's out. Oh my God. I'm like, you're going to be sitting. It'll be okay.

Don't worry about it. Andy asked shy to put his collar in. He's like, oh, they're asking in the control room. One side of your collar's out. The other side's under your jacket. Just go ahead and fix it there. Flip your jacket. He's like, um, what, that's what I want.

It's not supposed to be. Please tell me this isn't a trend. I did not. And he's like, okay, well, I guess the old folks just didn't know that that's the look. I just told the old folks, this is, is this a, is this a Gen Z? Like, I don't want, look, I don't want to be like, these stupid kids, you know, because we all steal the kids' fashions ultimately. But, like, this did not look great. I felt like he looked he had one he had one flap of his shirt hanging out he had the collar out and I remember back in the queer eye days of like you know the heady days of like 2001 2002 and Carson Cressley was teaching us about like the exciting world of tucking one half of your shirt in you know but this was it just didn't look right it was like what because the step that the side that was untucked was really untucked well I feel like this is a

a case of the young people stealing something from like really old people because you know when you leave the house and you're really old this is what you do you're disheveled you've got one collar under you've got one collar out you've got your underwear hanging out the back of your pants you've got maybe a toilet paper coming out of your shoe and that's shy's that's crowd you know that's who he steals his fashion from well it's also funny because like shy's whole thing is he's always acting kind of aloof or confused by the situations like i didn't even realize that this was happening. And so he's, he actually is sort of caught right now where he is, he has intentionally putting his collar out and it kind of suggests like,

what, I wasn't even paying attention. I didn't even realize my collar flopped out. And then when he's called on it, he's like, no, no, no, no, it's, it's supposed to be like that. I'm supposed to be confused and dishevelled. Like, I didn't even know how to put myself together. It's called effortless, Andy, or is it still under, superfectly under? Can I see a shot of this? Okay. All right, welcome to next gen NYC. They're children and they're very, very famous. Ask TalkTic.

All right, well, in a blink of an eye, we saw friendships, relationships, and even apartments change. Wow, welcome to your first reunion icons. It was like, yeah, we're all so nervous. And Romans like, yeah, I thought that was going to be a live audience. I saw the Love Island reunion and I thought we'd be getting. the same thing, but I guess not. Okay. Yeah. Rowan,

Rowan's like, where are we? I've never even seen this show before. Oh, get out of here. You've at least had Bravo on before, haven't you? Don't you do that before you go on something? Do you homework? They're so confused. It's so funny because like the new Vanderpump

Rules cast is also about the same age as this cast. But like they're very reality TV savvy, I think because they've all auditioned and been on several shows, which is funny, because a lot of the people on this show are like, you know, children of reality stars. But there's something about this cast

where they just seem so confused by this whole process. Like this cast feels more like Gen Z. They're confused even by the concept of like television as opposed to YouTube or TikTok. So yeah, I don't know, I think a weird different tonal shift. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, and Amby's like, are you guys excited?

Are you nervous? He was like, why is Beyonce coming? Yes, Beyonce is coming. So Andy's like, okay, well, there's an elephant in this room that must be addressed. Ariana's current dating status. I was like, ooh, there's actually another elephant, but, well, this happened before the elephant. And he's like, Ariana, both of you and Georgia talked about the status of your relationship with Hudson. When you are on Watch Rapids Live, first Georgia confirmed that you and Hudson were back together.

Are you really back together? And she's basically like, we're taking it day by day, and, you know, we're figuring it out, trying to see if we can make it work, and we decide, like, right now, like, really wasn't the best time for us, so I'm single and figuring out my life.

Yeah, Liam, what are your thoughts on this? And he's like, ah, yeah, I don't know. Exciting news, I guess. I'm not mad at her. She's going through a lot. Got no hard feelings. It's basically it. So...

Okay. Very cool. You know, these couches have a high back. I'm surprised you're able to get your elbow all the way on top of it. That was impressive. That's just how actors sit, Andy. All right. I'm thinking about things.

Thinking about things deeply. Well, let me look down to the side and... Is the camera still on me? I'm feeling things. Very deeply, Andy. All right. Well, Charlie, you spoke in Hudson or Ariano, the cops recently? recently anybody he's like uh yeah i mean hudson reached out to me this is no big deal like he

expressed his frustration and his anger and i was like okay wow like a mean text here and there but you know me and ariott i haven't spoken in a couple of months uh so i sort of reached out kind of apologizing i don't know i said maybe i could have been more delicate with her emotions i don't know in hindsight maybe i i don't know maybe i should have done that i don't know i I barely have a phone, Andy. I don't know. It's all stupid. It's all fucking stupid.

Well, you definitely don't have Bluetooth speakers. We know that much. Hudson's going to join us a little bit later, so America get excited for that. And we'll get a chance to revisit all of this from his side. Again, very exciting for America. Okay, so let's check in on the people who are coupled up. Gia, what does your mom think of the move and the fact that you're so far away from Christian? She's happy from me.

and Christian and I were moving in together in November, and we're looking in the city, the city of Trenton, and I'm going to make everyone come down to Trenton, New Jersey, three times a season. Andy, I mean, Rowan, uh, your relationship's still boring, I'm assuming, okay, let's get past Rowan and Riley, how's your relationship going? She's like, um, I feel like this is the first, like, healthy relationship I've ever been in. Has he said two words yet? No, but, you know, eventually I'll stop talking and he'll get in there. I'm pretty sure. All right.

Well, that's good. It's nice that we got to see a single scene with him. And Brooks, your boyfriend, Cid, lives in Austin. How are things going with the two of you? We're getting an apartment together in New York. And I think that's like more of a reason to spend more time here if I wasn't enough. Ha, ha, ha. All right.

Amira, what's going on with you and Kevin? Did you guys move in together? Um, no, we had some situations that were happening last season, but like maybe in the future. I don't know. He was misappropriating my trust, and so we'll have to work on that. What do you need situation during the season? Can you speak less like you're trying to keep an influencing deal? That would be great for doing a show here.

She's like, well, I guess I can talk to you specifically about this, Georgia. I really owe you an apology because on my birthday, that was just the worst possible timing because the night before I literally cried myself to sleep because of Kevin-related things that were happening and I did not know what the future was going to hold. And then the next day it was brought up on camera and I was like trying to navigate my relationship with him. And, you know, when he was brought up, I would get like extra bitchy. So I'm just like, sorry.

The Kevin said you. That's all I'm really allowed to say right now. Hashtag ad. But my skin feels very soft and Juergens really doesn't approve of the way that Kevin might have been treating me. I'll hold that for next season. Thank you. Kevin was a little rude to the Juergens alligator, so it became a brand issue. So George was like, yeah, I think that like the context is very helpful.

Excuse me for my cough. And like, I run like very jealous in my relationship so I get it. and that topic was, like, really sensitive to you. And I've, like, been there. So I appreciate the apology a lot. Yeah. Okay. Well, this is so fucking nice, boring.

Okay, Georgia, you went on Gia's podcast and said you and present broken up. Wow. What came between you? Germs? And she's like, oh, like, for now, like, a romance with him is, like, off the table. Because, like, we also have a plate, but we have a pact. he's like freezing his sperm and then I'm going to freeze my eggs because like we just want to have like a really cold baby so I could start selling coat coats. And he's like, he's freezing his sperm like Craig Conover?

Yeah, he's like worried about lithium batteries. Is he worried about lithium batteries having his child? No, no. So then Andy was like, well, after watching the Rocky Horror performance. He's worried about lithium batteries. Jesus. He's worried that is that a reason not to have children?

There's so many reasons right now to not have children. I mean, turn on the TV for Christ's sake. I just assume he thought that maybe lithium batteries were going to make him sterile. And switch, you know, I like, um, they just don't want things sterilized between the two of them. they're just against sterilization. They just don't. It's like he's really worried about, like, hand, what do they call that?

The hand gel that my mimea always puts on or used to put on. Purell. The hand gel. Yeah, like that anti. He's worried about. No, mind. He's index. Yes.

My mima used to put windlass all over her hands. crazy. So we get a question about Hook, and Ava is also an influencer, so she doesn't really want to answer anything properly. So he's like, well, what's that happened with Hook? She's like, um, like, honestly, like, Hook is like, honestly, like, things just like honestly. Okay, did he cheat on you? She's like, well, yeah.

I mean, God, is that what you guys were getting from what I was saying? I thought I was being more mysterious about it. Yeah, clearly he cheated on you. Yeah. Well, I'm thankful, like, for the girls, like, especially, like, Ariana and Gia. Because, like, we weren't in the best place at that time. But they were, like, really there for me. It's like girls.

It's like girls with girls. It was... All right, that's great. That's a very uplifting sentiment, but I care more about this. What happened with you and Kyle Cook? And she's like, um, yeah, I mean, yeah, we kissed. It was like, whatever. But you know, he's 43 and you're 26. Isn't that crazy? And shy's like, Andy, Andy, not in front of me. I mean, I'm like right here. I mean, like, what? I don't even understand. Like, is my collar out? No, it's not. I mean, what it is? What? I don't know. Is this like a reunion? Wait, this is a reunion? I thought we were just like hanging out. What? It was crazy.

It's like, it's not even really that crazy of like a difference. I mean, whatever. We shared a kiss and. the hamptu it was like a musical festival kiss and whatever i made out with bethny frankle a burning man i mean oh all right i'm gonna process that in the meantime georgia um plastic from spoon said when you appear to watch what happens live you said eva was with kyle for money and a obscure spot no i never said money and eva's like you said monetary gains because no that's not what i said and the actual quote was something like, you know, when, you know, when does a young woman hook up with a guy that's much older unless there's like monetary or social gain to it? So she's like, I didn't say there was, I didn't say you did it for monetary gain. I said it's monetary or social gain.

Yeah. She's like, yeah, but like when you see a huge age gap situation, like, like usually, and she's like, it's not even huge. Yeah, but in my opinion, that's like a big age gap. It's like huge. It's like usually either for social, yeah, or financial. I never said Ava was with him for financial game. I said, or financial gain, or financial gain, not for financial game. I mean, the F really makes a difference is all I'm saying. And no one really talks about that. The breadth of letters that you could use. It's so funny as because so much the conversation around Kyle over the past few months has just been like, well, Kyle never ages. Look at Kyle. He looks so young. He looks same as when the show's art. Kyle looks so young.

And then here comes this show to be like, what was it like making out with a very old man? How did you feel getting caught kissing the old lady from the end of the Titanic who got her jewel from the bottom of the ocean?

When you made out with Kyle, did the little robot aliens in the basement get mad at you from batteries not included? I'm sorry, that's Hugh Cronin. Sorry, a different person. when you started making out with Kyle, did you feel like he was going to hit you on your head with his purse

like you were Betty White? Ruth Buzzy. Question. When you started making out with Kyle, did he ever try to sell Quaker Oats on you? Oh, I'm sorry, that's Wolframley, a different person entirely. My bad. Mm-hmm.

Well, dating in New York City isn't for the fate of heart. Shy, we got to see you and you and Ava enjoying single life. What's the latest with the two of you? He's like, we went a little bit of New York. And I don't know, like kind of fizzled, but like I really don't have a straight answer for that. So, I mean, I don't know. It was just like a weird time in New York. It was like seasonal.

It was like a seasonal thing. Yeah, it's just like, I mean, I don't know. It's like weird. It's like, you know, seasonal, you know, I was had seasonal affectation, affective disorder, you know, depression, seasonal depression. It was like weird. And it's like, you had seasonal depression? He's like, yeah. Yeah, I did.

And I was the answer to seasonal depression. Thanks. And he's like, oh, no, yeah. I mean, I don't know. I guess. Like, is that how seasonal depression works? I really don't know. I really don't know how I don't get this goes, Andy.

All right, shy. boss from 10 Red Sox really smell because they haven't been watched in 30 years are Charlie Brooks claims that you had a crush on Ariana true? And he's like, oh, no, I never had a

crush on Ariana. And then Brooks's like, well, he lied throughout the entire season, so why would he be honest now? Like, that's like your take on it, but like that's not what's been presented to us. So Brooks coming in hot say that Shy has been a liar

all this time just kind of like landing flat with me. Well, he lied once. He got caught lying once. When he was like, oh my God, you guys, should I totally go tell Hudson about that guy trying to date Ariana? They're like, no, don't do it. And he's like, the girls told me to do it. So I guess he got caught with that. That's because he's a jester.

How dare you? How dare you? But they did not like shy ever since. the BravoCon panel. And we still have not been able to figure out exactly why. But Brooks does not like him. Brooks doesn't like him also because

this latest fashion show thing was kind of embarrassing for Brooks. Because Brooks's thing, he's like, I would like to thank hot chocolate for sponsoring my Terry Light, TM, and this food court in wherever. It's like standing in front of the Sabaro. And then Shia's

event, everyone's like, oh my God, the clothes are actually cool. I'm buying them. Wow, what a cool event. I'm going to spray paint this piece of wood. Yeah. I don't know. They really were, they really have been mad at shy since ProvoCon. And I'm going to say, I think the two of us can take credit for that. I don't know what we did. But I'm going, I'm obviously very dead set on inserting ourselves into the narrative of next gen New York City. So I, you know, I'm going to say it was us. Commercials. Here comes one right now. Anyway, Charlie's like, um, I frankly don't think that shy's a liar at all. I mean, I don't like, well, of course, you don't. You don't.

you are like joined at the fucking hip. Gia, say that for me as well. You guys are like joined at the fucking hub. Thank you. Yeah, and you're a liar too, Ariana says. And he's like, oh, I mean, look, Shirel hold me accountable occasionally. I mean, whatever.

I mean, like, he has, like, out of crush on Ariana. I'll say that honestly, but, like, I don't think he'd lie it outright. It wasn't like an outright lie. It was just like, I mean, like, whatever. Like, stupid. Arianna, what do you think? She's like, I don't think that at all. Shai is one of my best friends.

Okay, Charlie, how would you describe Shai's game? He's like, I mean, he managed to land to Eva, which is like, no small feet. And he's like, all right, well, shy, what about Charlie? Does he have a certain charm? And he's like, yeah, Charlie's got, he's got game, that's for sure. Yeah, I think so. It's like, yeah, you're charming. You're charm.

I'll say that. You are charming. Thanks, Brooks. And you know what, Brooks? you're handsome and you dress well. So, but you are also caught outside the crypto torture house. Oh,

dun, you can't hold something against somebody who has no shame. You know what I mean? You cannot shame the shameless. And this cast is just never going to learn. And it's so funny because Charlie's like, I mean, sorry I'm into finances.

Like, yeah, it's called like making an effort in life. Okay? It's like trying to learn Italian. Like one minute you guys complain, I don't have a job, and then you're mad that, like, I'm torturing somebody over crypto. It's called work.

Losers. Maybe if that guy just give us this account, we wouldn't have had to torture him. I think it'd never think about it that way. So, George was like, wait, why can't we talk about that? Like, all the questions that I'm, like, getting asked about the show, like, why isn't this being talked about more? Okay, two things that need to be talked about more. Charlie's involvement in a crypto torture house and also the number of groceries in a grocery store.

Like, no one's talking about this. I know. Like, we tried to talk to you about it at Halloween and, like, you completely shut it down. What do you want to know? A guy was tortured in a crypto house. Charlie was there, probably involved in some way. And he didn't get arrested for it. That's it.

I mean, what do you want him to talk to you about his emotions during the crypto house torture thing? You guys need to know. You guys need a better line of questioning. I'm not saying don't question him about it. I'm just saying like there's so many other things that they could be asking. Like, well, it's been rumored that you were getting like underage girls for the guys who were running the torture house. Like you weren't just there. You were actively involved and like working with the, you know, whatever the rumors have been.

Bring them up. Yeah. Did you zap this man with the frayed wires from a lamp? Did you do that? I, of course, that's purely a reference to the Seminole TV show, 24, where Jack Bauer was tortured by a lamp. But that's like my go-to torture image. Did you force somebody's eyes and ears open to watch this past season of the Valley? Did you just go on a vacation with Danny Bucco and listen to say, let's go?

And Liam's like, I mean, you know, look, look. You refuse to answer anything, that's what makes everyone in here nervous. And I am nervous. I'm feeling it, feeling it right now. Feeling it very, very deeply. I'm so nervous. I may uncross my legs and sit in a different position, but I'm going to hold firm. Hold firm in the actor's sitting stance, which is, three-quarter position.

Like, thrust. Okay. Sorry for interrupting you, three-quarter, got it. Okay. So I'm going to address it. Just whatever you want. Go ahead. I've been addressing it to the best, to the extent that I can.

Okay, to the extent. All right, to be clear, have you been charged? No, no, I've not. Are you currently in litigation relating to this case? No, I would not say, I would not say, no. It's really quite nuanced, but no, mostly. And frankly, frankly, hitherto. But could you be called to speak on the case?

case or will you be called to speak on the case? Well, you know, it's, I mean, honestly, it's, I mean, anybody's guess. So I'm not entirely, frankly, I'm still uncertain, I'm confused about, I mean, what is this? What are cases? What is the law? Where has the law gone in America? Thank you. I mean, it really, it really is so, it's so nuanced. I mean, because, like, if you torture someone really well, it actually, there's like an art to torturing someone. And then at a certain point, you say, is this a crime if you're just doing your art, you know? So there's a lot of, like, facets and nuances to it. So like, I can't talk about it.

I don't know if I'll get called or charged. But, you know, I don't like things being charged. You know, that's why I have other people pay my tabs. So the Andy's like, say, all right, Brooks, you and Charlie were friends before the show, but you came in the season pretty upset with him when you were introducing Liam to the group. What did you tell him about Charlie? Just that, like, we weren't really in a good place and that I didn't appreciate what he had said about my family the year prior. And then last year, we see a flashback to Charlie and say,

he'd rather cut off his own dick than have a meeting with Seth. And so... Yeah, and I had no idea what it happened in the media pertaining to the crypto torture house. Oh, you just love for repeating those words. Why don't just put it on shirt, Brooks? Maybe you'll actually sell one. Okay. Ooh, crypto torture house.

Sorry goes again. Stupid. Stupid. If I'm going to torture someone, I'm going to put them in Terry Light. make them walk across the street slowly and sub-freezing weather. So then Charlie is the first time I've ever said those words to you. So I don't even know why you're upset. I'm mad Brooks.

I'm taking over this reunion. Crypto-Torcher House. So Charlie's like, you know, the only reason why I brought up your dad is because you brought up my dad first. That's how I see it. He's like, that's untrue. You said you'd rather cut your dick off than go to lunch with my dad. honestly like yeah it's not it was not nice of charlie to say that but like if you're someone like

charlie if you're just like in your 20s and then like your friend's dad wants to take you to lunch to give you a pep talk about life you know i think the sentiment of like wanting to cut off your dick instead could possibly like enter the brains of many people it's nothing against set it's Just like, I'm 29. I don't want how to go and sit and talk to someone from an older generation about being pansexual and, like, them trying to, like, they're going to, like, do a dry run of their motivational speaking tour on me. Like, and I have to sit there and smile on camera.

Like, no, I don't, I don't want to do that at all. I think that's, like, I think Charlie was, like, a little fair in saying that. It was rude, but it wasn't wrong. I will tell my dad to rescind his luncheon fight. But of course, I'm also like a good, I'm like a good little boy. So, like anytime anyone's father's like, I'll take you to lunch. I'm like, okay, sure, I would love to learn some life lessons from you, sir. Yeah, I generally have always preferred hanging out with people's parents. I'm like, wow. Now we can have a real conversation, you guys. What are you thinking for retirement

funds? But you know, if like, you're like, like, oh, you know what I'm going to do today? I'm just gonna sit on the sofa and I'm gonna watch a movie. Oh wait, I have to go to get dressed and go to lunch with my friend's dad, who's gonna give me life advice, but not really, he's just gonna talk at me because he's just practicing his own, like, mantras.

Well, then don't do it. Nobody's holding a fucking chainsaw to your leg like you're in a crypto torture house. Oh, there he goes again. You know what, Brooks, you read a comment saying you don't stand up for yourself, and now you come in here comes blazing. Like, it's crazy. Turquoise doesn't help, Brooks.

Okay, Jesus Christ. Can you spray time your, spray time your personality? Because Jesus Christ, it's pale. Oh, my God. You basically, your soul is the inside of a sourdough. Okay, fuck. I actually watched back a season of you talking shit about me. I'm sorry, Brooks.

Yeah, Charlie said things, but like, you were the one who was mainly coming at Charlie. Like, I think Charlie sort of respond. I don't want to be a Charlie defender. He is He is someone who's involved in a crypto torture house But like Brooks acting like He was just sitting by and like Charlie and like just took it on the chin

Over and over and over again from Charlie It was mainly Brooks going after Charlie If you ask me Yeah I'm being like No one should hang out with Charlie Why is Charlie in mind Charlie's coming to Charlie wants to talk to me outside Hold on what do you want to say

Charlie Running down the street He ran away So it's like, I mean, what's fuck? Like, you haven't talked about me either? You haven't talked about that? I mean, that's what we do. We're on a TV show.

Give me a fucking break. Yeah, but I was pretty direct about how I felt the entire. No, you weren't. No, the fuck you weren't. And there's not a person on earth watching the show who thinks you were direct. And listen, I'm going to say that a lot today because I know how the audience feels, all right? I've got my finger in one place, and that is in the psyche of this audience, okay? I respect direct people.

people unless you want any sort of direct answers about the crypto torture house it's very nuanced i can't give you a direct answer um so and he's like charlie when you saw the scene where you called brooks that's that pathetic and you said fuck your dad he's like i didn't say pathetic by the way and jia's like you called him a house husband and that that's and that's pathetic's like correct i said he should be embarrassed and brook's like why should my dad be embarrassed you're the one outside of a torture house like maybe if you listen to anything he said you would know that he's a high-level executive and has worked his ass off to provide for my family in a non-ported house environment. Big Lott's didn't bankrupt itself, bitch. Okay. And Charlie's like, okay, well, I mean, then, okay, again, I'm just sath.

I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. But what about to me? I said, well, I think you walked into it. I think you asked for it with my dad comment. It's like, I think that everyone here can agree. Like, if it was anyone else's dad, all hell would have broken loose

and I probably handled it the most chill. That's because you don't have any other mode. No one else's dad made me go to lunch with them. Okay? I was talking about going to lunch with your dad. But Brooks being like, I handled it the most chill. I was like, do you, you don't have any other emotional register.

Yeah, pretty much. So he's like, stop talking about my fucking dad. Whoa, look. cursed. I'm really on one today. Oh my God, just apologize to him, Charlie. Okay, sorry for not wanting to go to luncheer or daddy or prior. That's not a genuine apology. That was like a torture house apology.

The way you treat me versus the way you treat everyone else here is different. What do you think the root of that is? Wow, I love this. This is going to be good. I genuinely don't know. Okay, you think it's homophobic. Just say you think he's homophobic. Do you know me gay friends I have?

Charlie. I also know black people. And I've grown up in New York City my entire life. Homophobic is such a ridiculous. I mean, it's just fucking stupid. I mean, Jesus Christ, you know, like I was hanging out with gay people just the other day. I have a gay friend we call Big Gay fucking Fagg, okay? And we were hanging out the other day.

And Big Gay, he sucked Ariana's friends. dick and then he sucked another dude's dick in the bathroom and that's my friend. So how are you calling me homophobic? I'm friends with the gay whore. So. He sucked all these guys' dicks and I still blessed him with my friendship. That is what you call homo accepting. Like, um, okay.

He's like, just the other day I went into a store and there was a gay man who was working there and I said hello to him. Is that homophobic? I don't think so. Oh, God. I just kind of like his handling of this question. It's like, no, you know, look, it is possible to be annoyed with Brooks because of other things. Because of other, there are other reasons than the fact that Brooks is gay.

I mean, come on. Yeah. I did really like the direct quote, which is, I am not homophobic. I don't think anyone I've grown up with or been friends with would even humor that perception. the person that I arrived to the Halloween party with, he sucked Ariana's friend's dick in the bathroom and another dude's dick in the bathroom the same night. One of my best friends.

Pulled up, sucked two dicks, and I'm fucking best friends with him. Please hand over the Glad Award now. Also introduce us to your friend. Yeah, and there's that too. You couldn't use a decent polish once in a while. Yeah. You know, we're friends.

and he's a giant dick sucker. So we call him big gay. Okay, so is that homophobic? Is that homophobic? And he's like, well, okay, well, I guess he got you on that one. The social circle expanded this year when we got Rowan. He really didn't do that much, let's be honest. Rowan, what's your opinion of Charlie?

She's like, he's funny. I mean, I think he could definitely make us laugh. I mean, I like his niche references, you know? He was like the only person who really understand what but butternut squash soup. was and so i thought that was pretty cool on the cat and the skeet trip charlie you gave rowing the sweatshirt that said my mom is the hot one how did your mom take that gift she's like yeah well she loves it and also like charlie and i were like kind of the only two people that really delivered shady gifts so i just want to put that

out there to everyone and mirror's like yeah i mean that ball gag was pretty good like yeah that was great and he's like but like what but like what i had to explain like a ball gag to ariana like why No, okay, Gia, we'll give you a moment to catch up. This season, Rowan found herself doing what every struggling 20-something does after graduating college, moving back in with her very famous parents. Rowan, Sky from Blue, says, were you nervous to come off a certain way, knowing how high profile your mom is? And she goes, well, I do understand that I have a reputation to uphold

and that nothing isn't get between me and my Calvin's, and I have a mother who has worked very hard, and it would be disrespectful for me and the legacy of Suddenly Susan to throw that all away and tarnish her reputation. Okay. Listen, Nanny, there's a reason that I brush my eyebrows crazily. Okay, and that is because of my mother. So I just want to say, everybody, get some eyebrow respect.

Brook Shields, that's my mom. Not going to ever do anything to embarrass her. Are my eyebrows bushy right now? They will be. They will be. God damn. I'm sorry, Mom. I'm sorry.

Listen, I would never come on to national TV and disrespect the legacy of my mother and all that she's worked for. I would not be some sort of disrespectful skank hag, unlike my sister who would do it in a heartbeat. Oh, well. Oh, she doesn't have a chance to rib butt over here. Oh, well, that's too bad. I'm wondering if the people in casting were like, oh, Rowan, you are so sweet. Thank you for coming. Get the sister.

Get the sister. Or if they're going to bring the sister on next year, because that was Rowan's best scene. was the sister being like, what do you mean you want a piece of my steak? No, I told you I was starving. You're not getting one of my meatballs. You're fucking idiot. I hate you.

Hey, waiter, could you get me a side of better, sister? Thanks. She needs to be on. I'm like actually a little shock that she wasn't on, but I think they need to bring her on immediately. So then Andy asks who she connected with, and Rowan connected with Ariana, and Brooks has taught her so much.

And Riley is saying that she loves Roe, Rowan and she thinks that Rowan is so funny. And Ava's like, yeah, Rowan and Riley taught me how to twerk the other day. And then she was like, yeah, I mean, I came home and there was like a twerk class going on, like on the roof. And I walked up and I was like, I don't think this is like my apartment anymore. I was like, what is? Like twerk?

Like what? I don't even understand it. Congratulations. You've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap. For part two, go look for the recap that says, Part two. Mm-hmm. See you over there, suckers.

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